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ok let's get to the point. we're going to take the deal. get a $1000 volkswagen reward card on select 2015 jetta models. or lease a 2015 jetta s for $139 a month after a $1000 volkswagen bonus. remembering katrina ten years later. good morning. thanks forgetting up with us this saturday morning. ten years to the day since hurricane katrina hit the gulf coast. we'll be going to new orleans throughout the show to join the city in marking the anniversary. mayor mitch landriew, actor wendell pierce and others will be joining us. there are reports out of houston at this hour of a sheriff's deputy who was gunned down from behind while refueling his patrol car at a gas station. we'll bring you the latest on the search for the suspect. plus the latest from the campaign trail. bernie sanders, hillary clinton,
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donald trump and a whole lot more. but we turn now to new orleans where ten years ago this morning, hurricane katrina made landfall. the times picayune editorial board writing, our submerged city has risen. let's reach hire. in new orleans a full day of commemoration is under way. >> reporter: good morning, jonathan. it's hard to imagine that ten years this morning the levees broke across the city, swallowing 80% of the city. in the ten years, there's been great progress made, but burden and trauma of that day still lingers. when you talk to folks who live in certain parts of the city, especially lower ninth ward and other communities devastated by the floodwaters. talk about while there is healing and there is progress, there is so much more progress that needs to happen. when you look at the devastation to the school system, a completely remade school system replaced with an all-charter district which kind of eroded
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some of the middle class here. you talk about a billion dollar new hospital that replaced the old one. a lot of new shiny things, brightened up and butte fied over the years, but still, jonathan, so much hurt and trauma. people remember that day. you have to remember beyond the 1800 or so who perished, there were 30,000 survivors. each one of them have a story, each survivor carrying with them some piece of what happened ten years ago today. there's been remarkable progress, but still so much further to go. >> msnbc's trymaine lee, thanks very much. we turn to the tragedy that unfolded on live television earlier this week. the fatal shootings of two tv journalists, alison parker and adam ward in virginia. the medical examiner's office yesterday reported they died of gunshot wounds to the head and body. a third victim, a woman they were interviewing survived. msnbc's adam reiss has the
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latest on the investigation from roanoke. >> reporter: good morning. we're learning more from the sheriff's investigation. vester flanagan fired 17 shots. they believe he acted alone and this was something that was premeditated that he, based on some documents he had in his apartment, closely associated with people that committed similar acts of violence including 9/11. vicki gardner is the sole survivor, there wednesday morning. also shot in the back after she tried to duck and avoid some of the shooting. she's undergone two surgeries, expected to have a full recovery. jonathan, she's very lucky to be alive this morning. >> msnbc's adam reiss, thank you. that tragedy in roanoke, virginia, this week is bringing renewed attention to the issue of gun violence. hillary clinton tackled the subject at the democratic national committee summer meeting yesterday. >> i believe we can have common
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sense gun reforms that keep weapons out of the hands that should not have them. domestic abusers, the violently unstable while respecting the rights of responsible gun owners. i mow the politics are hard. i know would rather throw up their hands or give up the fight, but not me. >> alison parker's father continued his call for gun reform yesterday. >> i think her life is going to have meaning not just as a journalist, but if we can effect meaningf meaningful changes in our gun laws here, this senseless act, this senseless murder will not go in vain. as i think you all know, this has been my mission. i'm taking it up and i was pleased that the governor of virginia has stepped up and is right there with me.
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my daughter was a journalist, and she would want me here telling the story. i'm doing this for her. >> let's bring in this morning's panel. jeannie zain know teaches campaign management at new york university, a political science professor at iona college. josh barrow from "the new york times," logo hag naki from rise 360. and eric mill brand from the new town alliance. his son and daughter both survived the shooting at sandy hook in december 2012. eric, a special thank you for being here this morning. what's your reaction to the tragic shooting this week in virginia? >> clearly we don't have enough guns in this country. if those journalists had been armed, they could have defended themselves. i'm speaking hiyperbolehyperbol.
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it's absurd. people thought that the tragedy at newtown would change everything, that that would be the moment we would get sensible gun control legislation, something, even background checks, and yet nothing happened. do you think this will impact that debate and actually let something happen? >> nothing happened at the federal level. if you look at what's happened in washington state, for example, with bill 594 that requires universal background checks now. the nra couldn't stop that. they tried really hard. the sid sens got tired of it. they went around their state legislature and used a mechanism allowed in that state constitution with enough signatures you can get an item on the ballot. they basically bypassed through the normal bill making process and were able to get it through. the nra is not an undefeated juggernaut. they want people to believe that. i think if you were to look at
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the issue of marriage equality, it looked hopeless 20 years ago, even three or four years ago. states were putting things in their state constitutions to ban same-sex marriages and same-sex unions. over time these systems have a way of correcting themselves. so as of this year, we now have marriage equality. it's the law of the land. i think gun violence reform is going to go the same trajectory. we're going to get worse before it gets better. in this particular instance with ms. parker and mr. ward being killed, that happens every single day. there are a lot of people that are watching this that feel sadness for those victims but they're saying, you know what? had that not been captured on video like that -- this happens in our community every day and no one talks about it. we're talking about it because people could see the video and how visceral it was. if you see the terror on miss parker's face, imagine the terror on the face of 20
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children? >> i want to play another clip of what ms. parker's father had to say and open it up to the panel. >> i don't own a gun. we don't have a gun in our family. i'm probably going to have to get one. sad to say, but when you're in the media as you know and taking on an issue like that, there are a lot of people who take exception to what you're saying. >> what do you make of that? he says he's probably going to have to get a gun. >> he's speaking out against gun violence. he's going to have to use a firearm. it's so unfortunate and speaks to a larger issue. >> keep going. >> it speaks to a larger issue, people feel like they have to be armed to protect themselves from others who are armed when in reality if there were less guns out, people would feel more safer. more guns don't make us safer. less guns actually make us safer. there's countless evidence to that fact. but again, there's still that
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argument. i know you were being facetious when you first spoke. but there's still the argument that had these reporters had a gun, everything would have been fun, as if there would have been a shootout at the ok corral. it's ridiculous. >> we have had this conversation over and over. >> like groundhog day. >> if you look back 20 years, the politics of gun control has actually gotten worse. there was much more bipartisan support for it 20 years ago, i think a lot of that is because the problem with violent crime has gotten better in the united states over that period. the improvement doesn't have anything to do with gun policy. it's unclear to researchers why violent crime has fallen so much over that time. they call this asymmetric polarization. there are things massively popular in terms of the you poll people like, are background checks a good idea? people say yes. but the people who really vote on the issue, who really care deeply about it tend to be
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opponents of it. 20 years ago you had people on the other side of the issue because they were scared of violence in their communities. because of a positive social change, even though we have the high-profile incidents, it's taken some of the political strength out of the side that would do something more about it. it's very sad we keep having this conversation. i think until there is a constituency that is out there that says not only i'm in favor of gun control, but care enough about gun control that i'm going to go to the ballot box and choose candidates, that's the thing that would have to happen before gun control advocates start winning. >> here's the thing. after newtown, there were polls out that said an overwhelming majority of american people supported background checks, yet it still failed in the senate. you can't get anywhere. jeann jeannie, do you see a point in time when the american people do
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what eric was talking about at the beginning of the segment where they say we're tired of it. we're going to either elect people who will change the laws. was that washington state you were talking about, where they went around their elected officials and did something about it that way? >> at the federal level, i think it is going to be a long haul still unfortunately because we have entrenched interests. you look at what republican candidates have been saying in the field in the few days since this tragedy occurred? what have they been saying? number one, we shouldn't be talking about gun control right now. we should wait. why is everybody politicizing this issue. now they say, now let's focus on mental health. i am all in favor of focusing on mental health. you ask how will you fund mental health without increasing the bureaucracy in the federal government. there's no answer. you look at scott walker, jeb bush who did it as governor of florida. there's no answer. why are they saying that? that's where the money comes
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from. until you break the connection between money and politics, we're not going to get any headway in the senator in congress. and i think the best bet at this point is to do what's been happening. certainly i think mike bloomberg deserves a lot of credit for helping fund this at the state level. republicans want to return power to the states. go ahead. you'll see passage in washington. we saw in new york, con it in cut and elsewhere. eventually, same thing with gay marriage. i couldn't agree more. it will find its way. to your point, josh, i think it's going to be a long haul still. >> you focused a lot on republicans. i think we showed a clip. hillary clinton made her comments about gun reform. what do you make of that? i'll start with you, jonathan. >> it's what i would expect a presidential candidate to say. if hillary clinton becomes president, she'll be a president facing a republican house and senate. i don't think there will be a change in gun policy if hillary
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clinton is president. we have a democratic president now and we haven't had significant change. the things we talk about in the united states are so at the margins that i wonder how they would impact gun violence. if you did something like australia, where you take away massive amounts of guns people have, redugs the rate of gun ownership in society, you can have a big impact on violent crime. changes with background checks will help at the margin, but i wouldn't expect that to have big impacts on the rate of violent crime in the country which i think is part of the reason you haven't had the knock down drag out fight. while the changes would be positive changes, they wouldn't be sea changes. >> eric, final thoughts from you. >> we have to ask ourselves as a country two simple questions. is the current situation unacceptable. if your answer to that is, no, i think things are just fine. that's one position. there's no point in talking to an individual like that.
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if you say, look, we do have a problem, something needs to be done, there are things we can do. josh, it will take time because once we implement changes, it may take time to see the effects of that. there's a lag effect. we know especially on this scale for a country saturated in guns. there are things we can do. >> eric milligram with newtown action alliance. breaking news to report in the shooting death of a sheriff's deputy last night. a person of interest has been taken into custody for voluntary questioning. officials say deputy darren go forgt was returning to his car last night when he was shot in the back multiple times. police release this surveillance photo of the suspect. we'll keep you updated on this story throughout the morning as more information develops. still ahead, ten years after hurricane katrina, we'll go to new orleans to see how the city is rebuilding with new orleans mayor mitch landriew.
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we need a movement which takes on the economic and political establishment, not one which is part of that establishment. >> that was senator bernie sanders speaking at the democratic party's summer meeting in minneapolis yesterday. it's because of bernie sanders that the democratic race for president has turned out to be more interesting this summer than many expected it would be. the vermont socialist making the case before party bigwigs that he is a viable alternative to hillary clinton. ahead of her speech yesterday, hillary clinton's campaign was touting the fact that she
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already has one-fifth of the delegates needed to win the nomination. they want to make sure people know that hillary clinton is well on her way to the nomination despite sanders' climbing poll numbers and the looming threat of vice president joe biden launching a campaign. let me ask this question: is there room in the race at this late stage for anyone to mount a vor midable challenge to hillary clinton? i throw it to you panel. i'll start with you, genie. let's talk about the super delegates. what's hillary clinton's strategy? >> her strategy is to tell joe biden do not jump into this race, this is all but sewn up. i think it's an argument the campaign needs to make. on the same token, i can't help but wonder what are bernie sanders supporters and others thinking, you locked up a fifth of the delegates to win before anybody has cast a vote. that is shocking when it comes to people angry at the party, angry at the establishment, how
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can this be happening. on the one hand, i think she needs to say. i wish she said it more privately. on the other hand, i don't think it's something that will work to her advantage. >> it plays into this narrative that it's rigged -- >> this is an example of rigging of the game. >> if they're complaining about the fact that they don't have more than four debates, they're clearly going to have a problem with this. >> i would note that the term locked up here for these delegates is not necessarily an apt term. it's someone who hasn't voted at the convention by virtue of they are. they've said they'll support hillary. they can change their mind. >> she's the obvious front-runner and people are saying they're going to support her. if her campaign were to fall apart in at which timer and spring, the superdelegates could fall away. >> if joe biden doesn't enter the race, there's nowhere for them to go. >> i don't expect her campaign to fall apart. the source of her strength is she's ahead in the polls, the
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obvious heir apparent. if it starts to look like sanders will be the nominee, democrats will panic. those are the reasons she's the overall favorite. >> this is also clearly an intimidation tactic, trying to scare everyone out of the race. that's what she's essentially doing. i would argue it's going to work. people don't want to go up against the juggernaut. the juggernaut is hillary clinton right now. >> the beginning of your answer, jeanne, you said the message to joe biden is don't get in the race. i'm thinking can anybody intimidate vice president biden to not get in the race? >> joe biden has run for president twice before. if he ran this time, he would have a better chance this time either of the previous two times he ran for president. joe biden got 1% of the vote in the iowa caucuses in 2008, polling at 18 now in the latest quinnipiac poll.
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if he looked at the situation in 2008 and said, gee, i think i should run, you would think he would look at these odds and think he should run. >> let's play some sound from bernie sanders who is unimpressed. >> secretary clinton's people have been talking to these folks for a very, very long time. she has a huge advantage over us in that respect. but i think as our campaign progresses and as people see us do better and better, you're going to see a lot of superdelegates -- i just met with one as i was walking here tn minutes ago, he said you swayed me. i'm on your side. >> do you buy it? are we going to see more of that? >> how does senator sanders break through? >> it's not how bernie sanders breaks through. it's if hillary clinton will continue to saab tauj her own self. this e-mail service issue is not going away and her snap chat
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joke didn't work. that failed miserably. it appears to be a rookie mistake, someone of hillary clinton's caliber, experience, resume, she shouldn't be making rookie mistakes like this. >> she's been changing her tune this week, a lot more contrite. >> she wants to explain it now and make it clear to people that there's nothing here, but it's not going away. again, her snap chat joke did not work. it bombed miserably. she needs to stop shooting herself in the foot and run a straight campaign. it is hers to lose. >> you can't see josh's face. >> you can't beat something with nothing. i agree the e-mail server is a problem and the campaign has been amateurish in many ways. >> she has a credibility issue. >> bernie sanders is not a credible nominee in the end. he would not win a general election. a lot of people who are supporting him as a protest vote because they wish to move the democratic party to the left. he's a good vehicle for that, so long as he is not going to win the nomination. if he starts to threaten to win the nomination, the democrats will say i don't want president
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bush, president trump, whoever it is the republicans nominate. that's the advantage joe biden has. joe biden is a plausible nominee. the democrats could run him and conceivably win a general election. that would be the reason for him to get in. if he thinks hillary is going to implode, sanders can't be the one who steps into the void. he's the one who can be there. the fact he's so well known can make up to a significant extent the fact that he's way, way late in organization and money and all the things he would need. >> i was going to say the path forward for joe biden is really tough. you mentioned her money, her organization. how does he sur mount that? he's got to shake up the race if he decides to get into that or wait for her to implode. that's not a great path forward. i agree he's a sitting vice president and great debater if he goes on that debate stage. but what is his path forward? you can't separate the two of them on issues. where does he go? he's not bernie sanders. >> also still reeling from the loss of his son. >> and do you risk your legacy
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breaking news out of houston, texas, at this hour and the search for a gunman who killed sheriff's deputy darren goforth at a gas station last night in what authorities describe as an execution-style killing. officials say a person of interest is in police custody for voluntary questioning. for the latest we turn to nbc's chanel jones. >> reporter: the execution style killing was carried out friday evening outside houston. 47-year-old darren goforth, a father of two, pulled into a gas station and began filling the tank of his patrol car. that's when investigators say the suspect walked up behind the
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deputy and opened fire. >> there's an officer down, gunshots in the vehicle. >> reporter: the victim fell to the ground. the suspect moved closer and fired more shots into the helpless man. >> ems arrived on scene. unfortunately the deputy passed. no apparent reason at all. no motive, the callous individual, whoever he is. >> reporter: police released this surveillance picture of the suspect and the getaway truck. the officer had just completed an accident investigation but was not believed to be in pursuit of anyone. he was simply stopping for gas. >> it strikes us in the heart, to simply be a target because you wear a badge. >> it's horrifying. it's an act of cowardice and brutality, the likes of which i've never seen. >> that was nbc's chanel jones reporting. still ahead, did jeb bush's remark about immigration cost him the asian-american vote?
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the story of new orleans after the levees broke ten years ago weekend is defined largely by absence, not enough rescue teams, buses, food, water, at least that you could drink. but in those horrible early days there was an abundance of infighting, federal officials arguing with state officials arguing with local officials about who was to blame for everything falling apart. our next guest was a witness to the political drama. as communications director to governor blanco, then the governor of louisiana, robert mann had a front row seat to the chaos. he's now a communications professor at louisiana state
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university. he joins us live from new orleans. thank you for being here. >> good morning. >> i think a lot of people would be surprised to learn how narrow your view was of what was happening at that time of constant distractions and how you felt far less informed than reporters you were supposed to be briefs. talk to me a little bit about your experience at that time. >> well, one thing that people forget is that even though new orleans and baton rouge are only about 80 miles apart, that when the storm hit, communications, the whole infrastructure of this city collapsed completely, and we were cut off as they were. we were relying in many cases on the journalist whose were down here in the field to tell us what was going on because there was no way to communicate with anyone in new orleans by the regular methods. >> former fema director michael brown wrote a rather incredible op ed piece for politico this week absolving himself of all
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blame. he released 100,000 pages of records. i remember they seemed to contradict his own belief. what was your feeling after the days hit. >> i've lost audio. >> it sounds like robert has lost audio. we'll try to get that fixed. let me throw this out to the panel, just to get your recollection of that time. i remember watching at home the video coming out of new orleans and wondering why on earth is the federal government, the state government, the local authorities, why aren't they doing anything to rescue these people? >> i remember feeling horrified, sitting in my living room thinking this is not america, this is not a first world country, why is more not being done? i also had the immediate feeling that if the people ton ground in new orleans were white, things would have been different.
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the government would have acted faster. i think that was reflective of a number of african-americans in this country. >> sure, sure. >> we've got robert's audio fixed. you're back with us? >> yes. >> i don't know how much of the question you heard. i'll restate it. michael brown, the former fema direct toe wrote a piece with headlines "stop blaming me for hurricane katrina." what was your interaction or relax to michael brown at the time? >> i don't consider myself to be the most perceptive person when it comes to personalities, but from the very first time i met with brown and the governor, i thought the guy was a total thud. i had a very bad feeling, he seemed very concerned about his self-importance. we later found out he was totally unqualified for the job, and i think he's trying to rewrite history in a way that's just not true. in his politico piece the other day, he claimed he was begging
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the governor and the mayor to call an evacuation as late as sunday morning before the storm when, in fact, the governor and i had been with her and here in new orleans the day before announcing a mandatory evacuation with the mayor. his history is completely wrong. >> as we were discussing while we were trying to fix your audio, the video we were seeing coming out of new orleans. a phrase you said, if it's not on television, id didn't happen. what did you mean by that? >> i meant i tried to get reporters and photographer and cameras on some of the helicopters and boats that were going into new orleans, and i was told every photographer, every reporter that's on a boat is one less person we can rescue, one less life we can save. so i dropped it. didn't go to the governor and ask her to force the national guard to allow a reporter or two. but the video evidence, the
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pictorial evidence was not there to show people being rescued. so the narrative has taken hold, that the state was completely incapacitated and no one was being rescued. in fact, in the days after katrina tens of thousands of people were being rescued. but it wasn't seen. if it didn't show up on television, in many people's estimation, it didn't happen. >> my last question to you, what's the most important thing you know about katrina that you think most people don't know and should? >> i think one of the things that people don't know, and i posted this on my twitter account last night is how quickly the storm shifted. just a couple days of the storm it was looking like it was going into florida. on friday before the storm, it suddenly shifted to new orleans and we had to scramble because until that point we thought it was going to florida, and it suddenly was headed straight for us. >> robert mann, journalist, political historian and former aid to the governor of louisiana, thank you for being with us this morning. >> thank you. up next, in an attempt to
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mothers-to-be who come to the u.s. to give birth so their children will auskly be american citizens, and after they give birth, they go home. nbc's kate snow did a really great report on the phenomena a couple years ago. again, that was governor bush's attempt to make the controversy go away. by single out asian birth tourists in particular, he may have made things worse. donald trump was among those to pounce tweeting, quote, asians are very offensive that jeb said that anchor babies applies to them as a way to be more politically correct to hispanics. a mess. democrats also criticized bush for his remarks. >> jeb bush made the situation even worse when he said, well, really he meant asian immigrants and not hispanic immigrants, and we take great offense to this. this is stereotypical. this is offensive, and we believe that jeb bush owes the asian community an apology. by thursday another presidential candidate was taking up the issue of birth
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tourism but with more nuanced language. >> we have people who are taking advantage of tourist visas. there's an industry that has been set up in l.a. where chinese women come over on a tourist visa and have a baby. this abuse has been going on for a while. we need to stop it. >> yesterday mike huckabee announced his support for ending birthright citizenship citing birth tourism from china. >> i would because i think that when we see even advertisements in china, advertising essentially birth tourism, where people are able to purchase packages so they fly to the u.s., have their baby in the u.s. so it has dual citizenship -- >> joining me now, stanford university's neal mall hole tra, an expert on asian-american
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voters. thanks for being here. >> thanks for having me. >> let's start with the comments by jeb bush using the term anchor babies by saying it's more related to asian people. what do you make of that? >> it's sort of a ridiculous comment. there's a few instances of voter fraud and people say we should have massive restrictions of voter i.d. laws, birth tourism is a small part of main land chinese tourism. it's using very weird examples of tourism to make very broad changes to the constitution. so it really was an odd comment, especially when he knew the question was coming to him. >> right. he was there on the border with mexico. he spoke in spanish with reporters there. as i said in the intro, he was trying to clean up a problem with the use of the word anchor babies. it brings to mind something about our political discussion. ha is, our political discussion on immigration. is it almost entirely focused on hispanics to the detriment of --
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not detriment -- to the exclusion of other groups? >> i totally agree. asians and asian-americans in united states oftentimes feel like they're a forgotten political entity, even though they are one of the fastest growing demographic groups and should hold a lot of political clout. one reason to explain this second bush gap is asian-american voters were not even on his mind which caused him to say something that offended them so deeply. >> when this happened, i was reminded of the gop autopsy which is an incredible document laying out there all the problems that the republican party has and has to fix in time for 2016. there's one part in particular on asian-americans that says, minority communities including asian and pacific islander americans also view the party as unwelcoming. president bush got 44% of the asian vote in 2004. our presidential nominee, mitt romney, received only 26% in 2012. what's the status, if you know,
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of the outreach -- of the republican party's outreach to asian-american voters, and is it having any kind of impact? >> as far as i know, it's not. my research shows that one of the main reasons why asian-americans have become increasingly gravitated towards the democratic party is they feel the core of the republican party treats them as foreigners, strangers in their own land. this is akin to questions like "where are you really from?" the jeb bush ash anchor baby comments, no, no, tell me where you're really from? >> one of the things i found is the biggest growth in registered voters in the next 25 years will come from asian-american voters. what impact is that going to have on the electoral in the long term and specifically which party stands to benefit? >> there are a group that you can argue is up for grabs, right? so asian-americans are wealthier
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than white americans, and we know that income is very highly correlated to vote for the republican party. republicans view them as a natural constituency. they've said the same things about hispanics as well. asians put more emphasis on the cultural issues of being made to feel foreign, then the republicans will have a harder time getting them. even though there are issues, affirmative action that the republicans can use to create a wedge in the asian-american community. >> is there any other issues aside from affirmative action that republicans can use to attract asian-american voters? >> yes. the other big issue is high-skilled immigration. the interesting thing is i think there's a broad consensus in both parties that we should be increasing high-skilled immigration. the democrats say you can't have the milk unless you buy the kouchlt you have to have broad comprehensive immigration reform. another thing the republicans could tell asian-american voters is, you know, the democrats are holding up your immigration to
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get what they want in terms of more broader immigration reform. >> neil malholtra, sthan, for being here. >> thanks for having me. up next, the city plans to commemorate the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina. why are europeans so obsessed with donald trump? like... my trusty bow. and free of stuff i don't like. we only eat chex cereal. no artificial flavors, and it's gluten-free. mom, brian threw a ball in the house! ...and tkind of like you huffing sometimes, grandpa. well, when you have copd, it can be hard to breathe. it can be hard to get air out, which can make it hard to get air in. so i talked to my doctor. she said.. doctor: symbicort could help you breathe better, starting within 5 minutes. symbicort doesn't replace a rescue inhaler for sudden symptoms.
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morning. let's get caught up on the headlines making news. before we start on anything, we've got to go to this piece of sound from michael brown, the former fema administrator during katrina. >> when he left crawford, i got on the phone and talked to the deputy chief of staff on air force one and i said i've got to have the president land in baton rou rouge. the question was why? i said because he needs to walk down the steps of air force one,
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walk to that podium. he needs to say two things. he needs to say to the american public and to the people of louisiana, i am here and i'm telling my cabinet to give mr. brown everything he needs. if he asks for x, you better give him x squared. i couldn't make that happen because for whatever crazy reason, they decided to do that flyover and go on back to andrews air force base. it was a huge mistake. it cost me, chris. >> me, me, me, me, me. reaction to that? >> i love the idea that the key mistakes in the katrina response were the political messaging. we didn't have the president stand in front of a podium and say this nice thing about me, his official. that's the key thing that went wrong. >> we got the optics wrong. that was the only thing we got wrong in katrina, the optics. >> also what we just heard from kathleen blanco, the former communications director, we should have sent the
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photographers in to see all the people who got evacuated. >> not to mention the fact that you have this guy out there with this revisionist history going out and it's all about, as you mentioned, him, how he has suffered as a result of what happened in katrina. forget all the victims and people devastated. >> the gentleman you called eha earlier called him a self-important phony. he's right. talking about self-important. europeans are obsessed with donald trump. >> and you're not, jonathan? >> trump is making headlines in europe as well as america. this article says front fits many perceived american stereotypes of america, excess, superficiality and love of wealth. >> i take exception to this. this is crap. have they seen who the prime
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minister of italy was? come on. trump is berlusconi incarnate. these are crazy americans, money obsessed, fame obsessed. it's shocking. they have had theirs and more in france, england, italy. and they'll get more. >> the person leading the polls in france right now who is basically the french version of donald trump except more nasty to immigrants. she's not just leading a primary poll, but their general election poll. i will take no crap from the french about how we are eleva elevating terrible people in our politics. >> you can say a lot of things about trump, he's not known for sponsoring or gies. >> don't forget the bunga bunga room. sarah palin throws soft balls at donald trump, jeb bush, ted cruz. she said, quote, we have to make a lot of o improvement claiming
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the white house is not truthful about the state of the country's economy. ted cruz credited palin -- the right wing left signaled palin's brand is unfiltered, un unapologetic conservatism. it's again taking hold of the republican party. did it ever let go? >> does anybody still care about sarah palin? this interview was amusinamusin i feel like it's almost a nostalgia tour. remember when sarah palin was a thing? >> you need journalists asking real questions about trump. he's gotten a lot of press, a lot of headlines. >> free passes. >> a lot of free passes. we need credible journalists, people who are journalists asking him real tough questions. he is the republican front-runner at this point. he's got to be taken seriously. right now he's regarded as entertainment, a sideshow.
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i'm jonathan capehart. steve kornacki has the morning off. as we remember katrina this morning, there's another atlantic storm heading in the direction of florida at this hour. florida governor rick scott declaring a protective state of emergency and the national hurricane center is sending a weather airplane into what is now tropical storm erika to figure out its strength. the details on that in just a few minutes. all of this coming on what is the tenth anniversary of hurricane katrina snieking the gulf coast. a memorial ceremony will be taking place in the city of new orleans in just little bit. that ceremony to be led by mitch landrieu who was louisiana's lieutenant governor during katrina and who is now the mayor of new orleans. mayor landrieu, thanks for being here. >> hey, jonathan. thanks for having me. >> when katrina hit you were second in command at the state emergency operations center. ten years later, what your biggest regret in the handling of the emergency response? >> first of all, it was one of the biggest evacuations that the
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country has ever seen. looking back on it ten years, i think now ha the federal, state and local governments weren't as well prepared as we could have been or should have been for that storm. the catastrophe we saw outside the superdome or the convention center was just unbelievable. the nation gasped at the possible loss of a great american city. this week we're here, we want to commemorate all the lost lives we have. we want to say thank you to the world and nation for helping us stand back up. very appreciative and thankful city. >> you were recently in houston and atlanta telling displaced residents to come back to new orleans. parents of the city, new orleans east and the lower northward are still blighted. real estate prices have soared with jent tri fi case. >> we have 72 neighborhoods in the city. almost all of them have come back. we have 93% of our residents back. it's not sr. prizing some neighborhoods have struggled,
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like the lower ninth ward. most people know the storm didn't cause all of our problems one of the things we want to do is recommit ourselves to make sure every part of the city gets rebuild. that's why i travel to houston, to atlanta to see our fellow new orleansans. everybody knows no matter where they live, new orleans will always be in their heart. >> new orleans residents view the recovery varies dramatically by race. 78% of white numbers say the state has mostly recovered while only 37% of black residents say the state has mostly recovered. what do you make of that difference? >> actually i think that's correct. that poll also said 78% of the people in the city, which means almost everybody thinks the city is heading in the right direction. that number doesn't surprise me at all. i've always said new orleans mirrors the rest of the country. if you did a poll like that in any other city in america, asked african and americans whites,
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our poor people and wealthy people, how do you think it's gone. it mirrors the same thing. i hope the presidential candidates, something we're going to work hard, closing that income inequality gap, make sure the institutions that actually give people hope and opportunity are much, much better which, by the way, we have done in new orleans in the last ten years in a spectacular way. we've recreated our education system, redesigned our health care delivery system. we have a new economic development strategy designed to close those gaps dramatically. katrina and rita did not cause our problems. we're trying to take a min tout correct 50, 60, 70 years. the evidence is we're making a lot of headway. the thing i feel great about is we're all going to go together. >> mayor, deon hayward said, quote, the criminal justice system is worse than it was before. do you think that's the case? >> first of all, it was bad before.
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it's hard to be word than it was before. one of the things we're doing, a consent decree for the police department president and sheriff's department, working with the president department of justice to create a fair system. we have a mass incarceration problem that mirrors what the rest of the country has which is something we have to get out of. we have been working hard for the past five years with a plan i put together that's designed to change the city from a city of violence to a city of peace and get to these kids really early and make sure the criminal justice system is working well for them by, number one, trying to keep them out, number two, trying to make sure we have mental health, we have jobs for them. we have to make sure the streets are safe. it's a very complicated metric for us. bottom line is we want to lead the way and kind of move away from mass incarceration into being smart and tough on crime. you can actually do both. i think it's essential that
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congress get this right and the state legislatures follow the lead. >> on violence, you're very passionate about this. i don't know if a lot of people know about that. new orleans murder rate is eight times the national average. 95% of the victims are african-americans between the ages of 16 and 25. talk a little bit more about what you're doing to change that. >> two things. first of all, completely changing the criminal justice system and the relationship that the police have with the community is essential. we're going to keep working on that. changing the institutions that people talk about are important. at the end of the day, too, you have to think about the victims of crime. the thing i'm really very frustrated with is this nation's lack of willingness to focus on the fact that young african-americans are victims exponentially higher than the national average. we're trying to get to these young men very early, identify them, work with them, ask them why they find this ecosystem of violence so compelling for them
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and try to work with them to help them make better choices. we've got to be clear about this. when there are a bunch of kids running around with guns shooting even other in the head, i've told them that's got to end. if i have to arrest them and put them in jail, that's what i'll development but before that i talk to them and say help me work through it. we focus on early childhood education, mental health, enrichment programs, all these things. this is a national catastrophe. if people think about the number of folks killed on the streets of america, it ought to make your knees weak. i'll end with this one number. since 1980, 620,000 people have been killed on the streets of america. that's more american cities killed in all of the wars of the 20th century. that ought to make us stop and pauds for a second about how we'll protect our homeland and protect ourselves from not only
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terrorists, but when americans are killing americans it's a moral tragedy we should stand up and talk about. >> mayor mitch landrieu of new orleans. thank you for your time this morning. >> thank you for helping our city. thank you, america. >> that memorial ceremony honoring the victims of the storm is coming up in just a little bit. turning to the panel now, i'm wondering hour our emergency response procedures have changed, not to mention our expectations of what government and and cannot do. >> when we think about all the failures in new orleans, the failures of the response in the moment, but also the huge infrastructure failures that led to it. if the levees has held the situation would have been much better regardless of what the actual officials on the ground did. i think it created a tension on that. we've had this enormous gridlock in washington around infrastructure. but just because people identified infrastructure a probland
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throw money at it, it's not clear there's been a real shift in terms of making us more prepared for future disasters. >> can i bring the conversation back to what mayor landrieu said in response to my question about combating violence. i don't know if any of you have heard mayor landrieu talk about the violence that's gripped his city and what he's trying to do with it. he speaks about this issue with a passion that is infectious, that you wish other either members of congress or local officials would talk about the things that he is trying to do to combat that violence. i'm curious your reaction to what he had to say. >> one of the things that struck me and what's being lost in that conversation is just how bad it is for blacks on the ground there. a number of -- the middle class in new orleans -- black middle class in new orleans has basically disappeared, number of city workers, teachers, people who were bedrocks in these communities are living in other states and they're not going to return. if we look at the median income
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for african-americans, it's actually $5,000 less than it was when katrina hit. but it's gone up for white americans. so katrina, you see a direct benefit for white middle class in new orleans, and new orleans essentially got whiter and smaller. the black community, especially the middle class has been hit hard and virtually disappeared there. >> lots of people left and went to houston, atlanta, other cities, and they haven't come home. >> absolutely. he is so compelling to listen to on this issue. i think one of the important things we heard at the end of your interview is this is not just a problem in new orleans. as we all knowg l in new york and everywhere around the country, this is a nationwide problem. and while you can see it encapsulated so much, unfortunately in new orleans, you can look at any city in this country. look at what is happening in baltimore today, chicago, new york city and elsewhere. what is fascinating, here you
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have an elected official passionate about this issue and talking about it in a holistic way, a holistic approach to try to heal it and yet i don't think, and he didn't say this. you don't get the sense he's got the support he needs at either the state or federal level to combat this problem. even if he did, what are the actual solutions? so i think there's a huge, huge open question here as to how we move forward on this issue that has yet to be answered a year after michael brown's death and with all the work the federal and state governments said they were going to put into this. >> if anyone is interested in that passion i was talking about, he did an interview at the aspen institute back in late june. find it online. it is compelling viewing, an interesting conversation. more on katrina throughout the hour. as we mentioned, the anniversary of katrina comes as erika is churning toward the u.s. let's get more from msnbc meteorologist steve sosna.
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>> good morning. we have important changes. hurricane hunter aircraft went into the storm to check out the health of this storm. this storm is a disorganized mess and may not even be classified as a tropical storm later this morning. notice all the thunderstorms to the east of the center. this is the command center, if you will, the steering wheel of the ship. when it is lopsided like this with the storms, it's weak and disorganized. that's why we're not expecting this storm to survive for much longer. winds are only 40 miles per hour. the pressure has gone up. think of it as your blood pressure, higher blood pressure, you're weaker. so is this storm. we're not looking at anything in terms of a severe threat for florida anymore. looks like the storm system will kocht to weaken as it moves off the northern coast of cuba. it will continue to track over some water. so it could regenerate over the weekend. for now these thunderstorms you see across florida have nothing to do with erica. but the path of the storm brings it over the rest of the island of cue cuba, up through the gulf
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of mexico as we go through next week. we'll have to see if this storms gets itself back together. for now, certainly some good news. looks like the storm is looking weaker and disorganized. still ahead, donald trump is setting his sites on a new target. none other than the woman hillary clinton calls her right hand. and the television star and hometown hero who spent the last decade trying to rebuild the city he loves. wendell pierce of "treme" and "the wire" is standing by. stay with us. (dorothy) toto, i've a feeling we're not in kansas anymore... (morpheus) after this, there is no turning back. (spock) history is replete with turning points.
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♪ but i don't stand a ghost of a chance with you ♪ >> wendell pierce is one of the most familiar faces on television, starring in "treme" as we just showed you and also "the wire." in treme he starred as antwaan batiste, a role that hit close to pierce who was born and raced in new orleans. after the levees broke and the waters rushed in, he devoted his efforts to helping his family and neighbors rebuild. he writes "the wind and the reeds." thank you for being here, very early for you. >> thank you, good morning. yes. >> i first want to ask you today, what goes through your mind on the tenth anniversary? >> the first thing that should
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go through our minds are the 1,800 people that lost their lives, through no fault of their own, in the middle of this disaster, natural and man made, and i think of them, in particular mr. and mrs. bayham who we saw two days before in church and asked, are you going to evacuate. they said no, i think we're going to ride this one out. that beautiful couple lost their lives. i think of them first. that's what we should do. >> you've made rebuilding your hometown community one of your life's missions. there were some who said new orleans shouldn't come back, that it shouldn't even be rebuilt. how did that make you feel at the time, and what do you think about that now? >> my grandparents always said there are those who don't have your best interests at heart. i realized then as i do now that there are people that don't have the city's best interests at heart or my community's best interests at heart. they would never said that about the city of los angeles or new
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york. we didn't give up on new york after 9/11. we didn't give up on los angeles after theering quake. those are people that don't the your best interests at heart. they identify themselves as adversaries. when you look at a policy of returning and recovery at the same time. people will say one thing, but their actions are what speak the loudest. >> there's an interview you did with our friend gwen ifill, and you were talking about your parents who are still there, and at the time of the storm, when they came back to their ruined home. you said when you looked at them, you saw that young couple that moved in and was starting their lives. how are your parents now? >> i looked in their eyes and i saw this young couple that could not -- their voting rights weren't protected, couldn't go to any part of new orleans that they wanted to.
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they decided to go to ponchartrain park which was a community grown out of the civil rights movement. the only place blacks go to experience green space because you could only go to a park on wednesdays. i saw this pioneering couple moving into their home pour the first time and realizing all the hopes and dreams, and to see them in their 70s and 80s and their whole life destroyed in an instant was heartbreaking. i vowed that i would get them in their home before they died. i was able to do that. i lost my mother three years o ago. but she was able to come back and enjoy her home. my father, i'm going to see him today. i'm going home to new orleans after this interview. he's 90 years old and thriving. and we're going to commemorate all those we lost in the neighborhood and celebrate our rebirth. we took it upon ourself to exercise our right of self-determination and rebuild our homes ourself. >> you started the ponchartrain
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park cdc. what's the status of your org soigs and how are you doing on reaching your goal of building or rebuilding 150 homes? >> we have about 40 homes now. it's been a tough road. a lot of times because of how we interface with government. we have a tale of two cities. while we'll be very passionate about the rebirth today and the rejuvenation of new orleans, we have to remember that 100 sthou people who want to come home, the majority of them poor and black can't come back. the policies are in place -- you can be passionate as the mayor is talking about earlier, you can be passionate about what you want to do, but the actions and policies are doing. public housing, they took down all four public house sings, they only brought back one-third. two-thirds sit there as empty blight, new empty blight.
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you have to understand in my opinion that was displacement by delay. these took these ten years to redo these public housing and pushed people away. in our community, we welcome everyone to come and buy a home. we're restricted only to sell to the low income pushed out of public housing. why would you have to do that? we have to turn away cash buyers, middle class folks who want to buy a home. that's by design. anybody doing development outside the city, you're going to be forced to take what we want to do is get rid of public housing, so then you start to see you have people who have a different agenda, and you have to watch out for that as you move forward and try to rebuild your neighborhood. that's what we're doing in ponchartrain park. we welcome the low income, but why are we restricted in our ability to sell a house? to turn away somebody buying a home with cash is un-american. but that's by design. that's by policy. if you really wanted to bring everybody back, why not
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one-for-one public housing. in my neighborhood we had the hospital, took almost ten years to do. the money was there six years ago. the mayor cut that and said, no, we're going to refinance the hospital and rebuild it. it took all ten years. it just reopened last year where my mother had to go across the city to go to get health care. you have to look at policies and say if you want to be inclusive, this recovery has not been inclusive. so that is the legacy of ponchartrain park, too, because we came out of the civil rights movement fighting some of these same battles. >> let me ask you, i know you were listening to the interview with mayor landrieu. specifically on what he's trying to do to curb the violence in new orleans. what do you think of what the mayor said and what would you want to see him do more? >> it's wonderful that we have passionate politicians, but we don't have passion in our policy. the 21st century social justice movement that combats violence
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is economic development. i know for a fact one of the chiefs of staff of the city council actually told us the lower ninth ward is night viable in a private conversation to me. i said how can you say that? i asked her if she had ever been to the lower ninth ward. she said i have to admit i haven't been there. yet you hold control of the purse strings and control of the resources that go into that. we tried to open a supermarket in the lower ninth ward. financers went into the city hall, met with the mayor, came out and decided not to do it. why are you playing politics with that? because you may not agree with someone who is on my team when that can bring economic justice, i can offer that young man who has taken another path in life, a dangerous path in life that leads to violence that can say, hey, here is a job. i can combat what you're trying to make on that corner, what you're shrinking. we know the violence comes out of the fact that so many young
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black men have to go to an underground economy. they're not injected. so here we are $71 billion later in our recovery and the lower ninth ward is only 37% returned. there's no economic development there. we have a resurgence up town but not a resurgence on katherine avenue in thrower ninth ward. it's the imbalance in policies. if you really want to be passionate about it, put it into the policies. >> on that note, wendell pierce, activist, actor, passionate new or leanean. the poetic truth is so many people of good will came and helped new orleans. we thank you. remember 1800 people lost their lives on this day ten years ago. >> when we come back, the city of new orleans prayers to remember the many victims of katrina in a special ceremony set to begin any minute now. we'll return to new orleans for that right after this. stay with us. rings a new look.
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today marks tn years since hurricane katrina rushed ashore along the gulf coast. at this hour in new orleans residents are getting ready to commemorate the estimated 1,800 lives lost in the storm and its aftermath. mayor mitch landrieu who joined us earlier will be leading that ceremony at the official hurricane katrina memorial, a place where 80 unclaimed victims are buried. msnbc's trymaine lee is in new orleans an joins us now. i would suspect that the mood in new orleans is rather somber today. >>. >> reporter: i tell you what, for so many people this discarries an emotional weight. you think ten years ago the levees broke and so many people lost their lives, lost family members and lost their homes, and for many people lost a piece of their city.
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so the mood is certainly somber. i talked to a number of people who said they're willing to -- they're trying to get through this day. they're tired of hearing about resilience, tired of hearing about the pain, about the true tragedy that this community went through. still others say this marks a time of great progress, they pushed through so much even though they're carrying the burden of that day and the entire decade, carrying the burden on their shoulders. again, today marks a time for reflection. there is a degree of sadness, but so many people are trying to push through and make it through the day. >> looking at pictures on the left there of the memorial service that's taking place in that park. it was dedicated three years ago in new orleans. 80 victims unclaimed or unidentified are laid to rest there. the exact number or as exact as authorities can say, 1,833 people died in the storm in
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louisiana and mississippi. 30 bodies remain unidentified or unclaimed by relatives according to records obtained through public records. in 200540 bodies remain unidentified. now a decade after the storm, 30 bodies are still unidentified. ♪ ♪ >> trymaine lee, you're still with us, msnbc's trymaine lee. a lot of our discussion here around the table about new orleans recovery has been about, yes, all the progress, but also sort of the disparity in the recovery, particularly as it pertains to african-americans
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and whites there in new orleans. how much of a discussion is that in the open in new orleans. >> reporter: people in new orleans, they're not a shy people at all. they tell you how they feel. that's kind of the beauty of how blunt and up front so many people here are. it's no secret that the black community here is still struggling. when you think about the hundred thousand fewer african-americans than whites. you see a shiny new superdome, a bunch of fancy new restaurants, pretty, shiny things. you go to the lower ninth ward and there's el ity lots and overgrown yards and decrepit houses still. when you think about the child poverty rate of 40%, about what it was before the storm. you think about an overall poverty of 30%, largely concentrated in these poor black communities.
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while it's a moment to celebrate the city as a whole has kind of risen, there's still so much struggle in the black community. you think about the new school system. there are 26,000 young people between the ages of 16 to 24 who are not in school or not working. on one hand they tout the new school system and say they've done it with little displacement. clearly whole communities of young people have been displaced. people continue to talk about the disparities. >> let's take a quick break and return to new orleans in a minute. more with trymaine lee from new orleans including the progress made and the challenges that begin. ...gas, bloating? yes! one phillips' colon health probiotic cap each day helps defend against occasional digestive issues. with three types of good bacteria. live the regular life. phillips'. whehe trusts onlyon duracell quantum because it lasts longer in 99% of devices.
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mayor mitch landrieu and other residents leading a prayer service. msnbc's trymaine lee has been reporting from new orleans on the progress made since then and the challenges that still remain and he joins us now.
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trymaine. >> reporter: think about 1,800 people who died as a result of the floodwaters and the storm. 30,000 or so rescued. there's indeed been much progress made in the city. that progress hasn't come without much sacrifice. the gaping holes left in new orleans landscape by buildings and houses washed away in hurricane katrina are only one aspect that's been lost. more than the physical wounds some survivors wrestle with emotional and psychological scars. >> it took me eight years to go home. i couldn't go over body ofs water without seeing body. >> reporter: la kreesh yeah phillips was forced to flee her home as floodwaters engulfed 80% of the city. her family eventually landed up in texas, staying the better part of a decade. the anniversary of the storm brings back bitter memories. >> to lose everything, you know, everything, all your clothes,
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all your paperwork, birth certificates, pictures. >> reporter: as the city ze de scended into kay yos, generous el onry arrived. >> people that were poor struggling before the storm had it even worse after the storm. people that were marginally getting by. the house they had before no longer exists. the job they had no longer exists. >> reporter: 1.5 million people were forced from new orleans and the gulf coast region after katrina. ten years later a number of them have returned but to a new new orleans. >> new orleans has gone from literally being under water to being one of the fastest growing major cities in america. >> reporter: violent crime, a problem before katrina, continues to playing a certain section of the city. the public school system has been torn apart. although most of new orleans' neighborhoods have seen dramatic
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recovery, in the black lower ninth ward, the process has been much slower. for every newly built or restored home, there's another one beyond repair. entire blocks overgrown with weeds and nearly 10,000 black residents have not compared, compared with 11,000 white residents. >> of all the things we've lost in the storm, what haven't we gotten back yet? >> a little bit of the soul is still missing. >> reporter: while the city of new orleans has worked hard on the structural damage left in katrina's wake. >> it took the better part of a year and a half to go to sleep because i'm still looking for katrina. >> many residents continuing to strongal with the emotional damage. >> reporter: when you think of the future of this amazing city, what do you hope for? >> i hope for more families to return. >> i think general honry said it best, a little piece of the soul is still missing. if there's any group of resilient people who can bounce back from this tragedy, i think
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the storm system continues to move off to the west and continues to be shredded apart. think of it as a cheese greater, between the mountains and the wind shear. it still has some waters to go over which means the storm could come back to life, but as we look at the models, you can see how the track is all shifted to the west and the south and west. earlier it was over 24r0rd florida. now it looks like it's over the gulf of mexico. we're not done with this storm entirely. we'll have to see if it comes back to life here over the next few days. at least now through the weekend, we are in the clear. certainly good news. >> the line of that report is "the remains of erika." thanks, msnbc's steve sosna. in political news, donald trump was back on the campaign trail last night aiming for a new target. nbc news ali vitali is covering the campaign and joins us from
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nashville where donald trump will be speaking again in a few short hours from now. good morning, ali. great to see you. >> hey, how are you, jonathan? donald tru i'm down in nashville, tennessee, standing outside the rocket center. they've started letting people in behind me. the room is pretty dark, a few hundred people in there. nothing huge, not the typical trump size that we see on the ground. last night is what people are talking about in advance of nashville. he was in massachusetts last night at the house of ernie bach, junior, a car czar in that region. his summer bash, 2015. lots of people. about 1500 people the campaign estimated last night. trump was say 2g,000. i thoi it was closer to 1500 on the ground. it looked like a pretty lux
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affair. there was a baseball-cap-shaped cake. also a really beautiful portrait of him that a local artist was donating to mr. bach, i believe. there was also his typical stump, attacking jeb bush and toting some of his more well-known ideas. but what was president more typical was the fact that he was hitting one of the top clinton aides. you have sound of that. let's take a look. >> i will tell you, you know, when you look at what she's done and how she's done it and huma, how about huma? okay. here is the story. so huma now is one of the people that it all sort of came through huma. who is huma married to? one of the great sleazebags of our time, anthony weiner. did you know that? she's married to anthony weiner.
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you know the little bing, bing, bi bing. i love you very much. [ cheers and applause ] >> think of it. so huma is getting classified secrets. she's married to anthony weiner who is a perv. he is. he is. now, if you think that huma isn't telling anthony who she's probably desperately in love with in all fairness to anthony, because why else would she marry this guy? can't see straight. do you think there's even a 5% chance that she's not telling anthony weiner now of a public relations firm what the hell is coming across? do you think there's even a little bit of a chance? i don't think so. >> reporter: now, the clinton campaign has come back with a response from traveling press secretary nick merrill saying donald trump spent the summer saying offensive things about
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women. there's no place for patently false attacks against a staff member. he should be ashamed of himself and others in his own party should take a moment to stand up to him and draw the line for once. it's embarrassing. in response to the new attacks, i haven't heard him say anything like this before. this is definitely something new in terms of attacking the clinton campaign which is usually focused on attacks on hillary clinton. >> ali, i have no words. thank you, ali vitali. still ahead, if you're just waking up this morning after a long night out, first, shame on you for missing the show. sec, i have a tip for you on how to recovering from your hangover. stay with us. just in case you were wondering what cheerios are made of
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i'm a gas service my nrepresentative. n. i've been with pg&e nine years. as an employee of pg&e you always put your best foot forward to provide reliable and safe service and be able to help the community. we always have the safety of our customers and the community in mind. my family is in oakland, my wife's family is in oakland so this is home to us. being able to work in the community that i grew up in, customers feel like friends, neighbors and it makes it a little bit more special. together, we're building a better california. there's a lot going on. let's get caught up with the panel. we have to go back to that clip that we just saw donald trump.
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come on, going after a staffer on a presidential campaign? seriously. >> seriously. i said to you during break -- now i'm going to have to rethink my attack on the europeans, because they may be right listening to this and its craziness, we do look silly right now. >> that's his appeal. he's willing to say the things that other people are thinking and, frankly, a lot of people do think anthony weiner is a perv, and donald trump is willing to say it. jonathan, i'm sorry, but it's true. and the fact he's clearly -- you mentioned this earlier. he is having a good time and he's the direct antithesis of jeb bush who looks like he's being marched to the guillotine every time he has to get up and speak in front of someone. trump looked like he's having a grand old time and he's like the don of politics. he does it again the next night to a sold-out show. if you're a waitress, try the
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meal. >> it would have been like the defining moment of their campaign, but it's just friday for donald trump. this is just the next thing after the ramos thing and there will be another thing probably on sunday or monday. >> you know -- >> trump lovers love him even more. >> amarosa, i don't even need to tell you her last name, sat in this spot two, three weeks ago, telling us he doesn't play by your rules meaning the political rules. he is a reality television star and reality television ethos is now like every day american life. >> i think he understands the intersection of pop cull tower and politics better than anyone else that he's running against. and that's what he's tapping into. >> what he doesn't understand is policy. >> it doesn't matter because he can generate headlines, and he's getting more airtime and more coverage than anybody else running against him. >> true. >> twice, three times as much.
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he understands not only how to manipulate the media but understands what the audience wants. they want a spectacle every day and he's giving it to them every day. >> this event in massachusetts where this happened, i grew up outside boston and this guy ernie bach jr. who hosted this, has these ridiculous ads for his dealership. they had a llama. the llama would just run across the frame at the end of the ad for these car dealerships. it's this spectacle thing. of course if donald trump goes to boston, he will end up there with ernie bach jr. that's the donald trump approach. >> tell him to marry his girlfriend. >> we have two other stories to get to before we run out of time. the first one for all those people having a hangover out there, drinking water doesn't prevent a hangover. according to a new dutch study the only way to prevent a hangover is to drink less. >> i don't understand why this
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is a study. don't diet. just don't eat. really? it took scientists to come up with this, if you want to cure a hangover, just don't drink? is this a joke. >> the journal obvious? >> it also says neither food nor water were found to have any positive effect. i'm going to tell the dutch right now, that's a lie, because i know when i've had a hangover, grease. a good bacon, egg, and cheese sandwich or bacon cheeseburger. >> i don't know what you're talking about. i've never had a hangover. >> it might just be you like the bacon cheeseburger. you might like it sober. >> i like it sober, too. >> did we need a study for that? >> no, we didn't. let's turn serious and more substantive, jeb bush fund-raisers leave campaign amid troubling signs. the strength of his candidacy. this is coming from politico. they were based in florida, a florida fund-raising consultants with ties to the florida gop.
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they were leaving voluntarily and still would work with bush's super pac. >> i love that one of their names is chris money. if your campaign is losing chris money, that's a sign you're in trouble. he needs to raise money for you. it's in his name. >> that name, come on. >> is that for real? >> is that his legal name? >> trump is at 24% and bush is at 7%, there's a problem. low energy. >> i think that's all the time we've got for our folks. thank you to this morning's panel, josh, lola, jeanne, and, thank you for getting "up" with us today. join us tomorrow, sunday morning, at 8:00. we'll have my interview with senator claire mccaskill. but before you do that, you're going to watch "melissa harris-perry" coming up next. have a great saturday. ♪
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this morning my question, ten years after katrina, have we learned anything? plus, a one of a kind report that was a decade in the making. and the only grocery store in the lower nine. first, the aftermath of katrina is not a part of our past, it remains in our present. good morning, i'm melissa harris-perry. it's august 29, 2015. and today in new orleans, louisiana, the forecast is for partly cloudy and a high of 88. but ten years ago on august 29, 2005, these were the images being broadcast from new orleans. a series of federal levees gave way in the aftermath of hurricane katrina and lake pontchartrain emptied into the city. the massiveai

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