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for people, process and technology to work together. work can work better. with xerox. good morning. first on "the rundown", the mia culp pa ahead around the country, hillary clinton saying she's sorry for only using a private e-mail server while serving as secretary of state. >> in retrospect certainly as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts, one for personal, one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can. >> and live pictures now out of washington where we will soon hear from hillary clinton. any minute she'll layout her vision for implementing the
nuclear deal with iran. we're told by her presidential campaign it will be a distrust and verify approach but this morning, it's the e-mail controversy continuing to lead many headlines. overnight clinton poechted a lengthy statement on her facebook page. she again apologizes for her decision to use only a private server and says she takes full responsibility thousand she continues to maintain her actions were allowed and has done absolutely nothing wrong. here while we wait for hillary clinton is peter alexander. what the clinton campaign saying this morning about this apology. >> reporter: you pointed out facebook post and she wanted to show that she's con trite about the choices she's made, trying to lay to rest the relentless questions about her private e-mail use that obviously have not just dragged in her poll numbers but now had a lot of donors to her expressing concern. it wasn't just on facebook. she e-mailed that note out to a lot of her supporters, yes, i
should have used two e-mail addresses, one for personal matters and one for my work at the state department, not doing so was a mistake. i'm sorry about it and take full responsibility. she added i'm grateful for your support and not taking anything for granted. the hope now for hillary clinton is that she can do a better job turning the page. >> and that is certainly something that the campaign is looking forward to do and they've been trying to do it for some time now. we're seeing these lives shots of where an area where she is going to shortly come through and give her talk about the iran nuclear deal. when it comes to this deal, this speech we expect from her today, she supports it, the deal, but what will she say today we haven't heard before? >> she's going to try to refocus the conversation on her policy positions right now. she's urges as you talked about this distrust and verify approach going forward. it's expected that hillary clinton will point out that she was one of the people when a part of this administration who really pushed for this deal with
iran. we've been given some remarks, part of her remarks as she'll outline part of a five-point plan. here's what she will say, not enough to say yes to the deal, of course, it is we have to say yes and she yes we will address it with viger and vigilance and confront iran's bad behavior in the region. it's notable as hillary clinton will be speak, we'll hear from opponents of this deal who will be protesting it. donald trump and ted cruz, an unlikely alliance will headline this event to take place on capitol hill alongside sarah palin and others as two sides on a deal that is clear now it will go through, try to put together a better sense of what their positions are. it seems like a little bit too late on the opposition side. hillary clinton is trying to say what she will do in real terms when this does go through. >> peter alexander, at the white house. thank you very much.
while we wait to bring you hillary clinton's remarks on the iran nuclear deal. let me bring in gregory meeks, democrat from new york and member of the house foreign affairs committee. pleasure to see you, sir. >> good to be with you, hjose. i think hillary will talk about how this is the best deal we have and if you talk to scientists and our allies and others around the world, they are supporting this deal. she's going to say we're not just simply trusting iran, that there is a strong inspections and verifications, process taking place -- will take place, that iran still has some things to do before the agreement is even -- will even move forward. you know, any time we talk to the -- i think that's -- when you talk about nuclear armament, whether plutonium or uranium. you need to talk to scientists. they say this deal is a very
good deal. there was an article in the "new york times" they talked about 95% of the country that has nuclear weapons uses it with plutonium as the case in the big issue was iraq, the facility that iran was developing there. this deal stops them from processing any plutonium and puts the uranium enrichment to way, way less than what they had. for me, who doing summer recess traveled all over europe and talking to our allies and talking to the p5+1. i wanted to make sure. this is not an easy vote. this is one of the hardest votes i will take in my career. i wanted to make sure there was verifications of what the president was talking about. and what he had put forward and to me, the verifications are all there. and i think hillary clinton is going to talk about that this is the best deal that we could move forward with to prevent iran
from having a nuclear weapon, which is the sole purpose of this deal. i hear my other colleagues talking about other things but the sole purpose of this deal is to prevent iran from having a nuclear weapon. we still will have other sanctions in place and still be hard on iran with reference to a number of bad acts and things they are doing and we're going to verify that they are not having any places that is undetected of having some kind of subversive enrichment of atomic weapons program there. and let me just end on this. when i spoke to the -- to the inspectors at the iaea, they gave me with absolute surety, that they can get this job done. the whole rumor you're hearing about the 24 days that you're not going to be able to detect something and undeclared areas they tell me, every scientist i've spoke with, you can go six months and two years and still
will be able to determine whether this was nuclear involvement in a particular area. all of the scientist facts point to the fact that this is a good deal. this is the right thing to do. all of our allies are just about -- >> but congressman, when you do hear that they are going to have a 24-day advance warning, it certainly causes you to think, maybe that gives them the time they need to hide or move or shift things around. the ones they really need to not show the world. as a matter of fact, congressman, a new poll out today finds an overwhelming majority of americans, 70%, don't think iran will comply with a nuclear deal. the support for the deal is slipping too. nearly half, 49% disapprove of the deal. how do you convince the american people that what you're saying is enough for us to think that dealing with iran trusting them, is something we should do? >> jose, what i see is taking place, the same thing i saw that
took place with the other hard vote i had, the iraq -- voting whether to go to war with iraq or not. what you're doing and what folks are doing, trying to raise unsubscribed fear into the american people. that's what took place in iraq. people saying we should two to war because the rhetoric going on, make them scared. there was going to be the mushroom cloud. that was fear that was putting the american people as opposed to listening to facts and made people emotional. what is happening today, the rhetoric is trying to put fear in people so they act emotionally as to rationally looking at what this agreement is. i took the time because i have a tremendous responsibility in making this vote for all of the people i represent in the fifth congressional district of new york and in fact all of of the folks -- in the united states, i went to every classified hearing and read and re-read the agreement, both classified and unclassified material. i spoke to allies and scientists
and i didn't try to say just democrats, et cetera, because it's too big an issue to play politics. i pause when i think about how many of my republican colleagues before they read or saw anything, before the agreement came out, they said they were against the deal. that smacks of politics and smacks of politics when you have absolutely 100% people in line, even in the democratic side, democrats admit this is a difficult bill. >> sure and you've seen for example, a senator menendez and schumer, who have also read everything. and meditated upon it and read every detail. take another point. as you say, the key is that you do it for nonpolitical reasons and do it for the right reasons, whatever your conscious tells you you must do, don't have politics seep into it. if it were only that easy, right congressman? >> that's correct. >> thank you for being with me. always a pleasure, congressman gregory meeks. >> let's take on capitol hill,
later today ted cruz and donald trump will join forces to urge congress to kill the deal. it comes as four more senators announce their support for the agreement bringing the number of backers to 42. that's one more than needed to block the senate from passing a resolution disapproving of the agreement. nbc katy tur is on the hill. what are ted cruz and trump hoping to accomplish? >> reporter: they say they want to convince congress but ultimately that's not going to happen. this deal is basically done. what this is is political posturing and grandstanding on a pretty large scale. they are trying to do is convince the voters that they are against this deal and rally the support of people who may not like this deal in order to come out and vote for them. now ted cruz is the key note speaker of this event. he says that he wants to rip up this deal. but donald trump, who he invited is basically the headliner and one getting the attention. he says he would not rip the
deal and called it a terrible deal and wrote an op-ed about it, he can't rip it up but he would enforce the contract as strictly as he possibly can. ultimately though, this is for them to come out, get attention and get headlines and tell the country and voters out there that they do not support this and they will be a stronger leader when it gets -- when they get into office than this current administration is right now. jose? >> katy tur, thank you very much. great seeing you on capitol hill this morning. now to vegas where a packed london bound plane was preparing to take off when it suddenly caught fire. it could have been disastrous. quick thinking by those on board made sure this story has a happy ending. >> hallie jackson is live in vegas with more. scary, hallie. >> reporter: i'll tell you what, this was a really interesting combination of a little bit of luck in that the plane wasn't actually in the air when the engine caught fire and a lot of good training. passengers we spoke with credited the pilots and credited
the flight attendants with being on the ball. you saw those amazing images on facebook and twitter, demonstrating how people got out. they were sprinting from the plane as fast as they can. one woman said people were just running because flames were so big behind them. a couple of new pieces of information that we have here today. the ntsb will send three investigators here to vegas to try to figure out what happened and one of the things they'll be looking at when the left engine that caught fire is whether and how the system that was designed to put out flames on an airplane like this worked properly. that is one of the functional things they'll be looking at and be examining all of that social media frame by frame to see if they can glean any information from it. jose? >> hallie, there is really no information yet as to what caused this fire, right?
the engine fire. >> well, right, the british airways, this flight again was heading from vegas over to london. like a ten-hour flight, they are calling this a technical failure, and airport officials said it was an engine failure. we know it happened in the left engine. the flames never made it into the cabin. the question is whiant how this engine failed. that's what they want to pinpoint. >> 6:13 in the morning hallie jackson time. thank you for being with me from las vegas. we're getting started on this wednesday edition of "the rundown", hillary clinton scheduled to speak at the top of the hour about the iran nuclear deal. we'll continue watching that for you from washington, d.c. you're going to hear it here live. the kentucky clerk who refused to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples is out of jail getting high profile support. but she's still standing firm. we'll have a live report on that and new fallout after this viral video surfaced of two high
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♪ >> the kentucky clerk who defied court orders to issue marriage licenses to same sex couples woke up in her home after spending almost five days in jail for contempt. republican presidential candidate mike huckabee was with women davis as she walked out of jail and on "morning joe" this morning. let's listen to what he had to say. >> my question to you is, are you here this morning, were you here yesterday and in kentucky
yesterday talking about your faith and you were there because of your faith or were you there because you think that this is a constitutional abomination? two completely different things. >> constitutional abomination, but because of my faith i believe that i have a responsibility to stand with those who are being persecuted not only for those faith, but for following the law and especially those who are being beaten up by the heavy hand of the judicial branch of government and put in jail for doing what they believe -- >> that's the former governor on "morning joe" this morning of the gabe gutierrez is live. i should say, gabe, when she came out of prison, she was met not only by her supporters but by blairing music that you heard a few seconds ago on this program. she received a musical welcome when she got out of prison. >> reporter: that's right it was quite a surreal scene.
the big question, when exactly will kim davis return to work here at the courthouse. her lawyers say she plans to return sometime later this week. we're hearing possibly friday or monday now after spending a few days with her family. she promises to not violet her conscience but could potentially land right back in jail. she was released yesterday as you mentioned because, because a federal judge said that because the deputy clerks were issuing marriages to same sex couples that then she could be released as long as she did not interfere with those deputy clerks. we spoke with one of them this morning and the clerks plan to keep issuing those licenses. but several big questions remain. number one, will she interfere with these clerks when she returns to work. and are these licenses being handed out right now valid. her lawyers say they are not. the kentucky governor and county attorney say they are. and the deputy clerks, they have removed her name from these
marriage licenses already, but again, lawyers for kim davis say that these deputy clerks did not have the authority to do that and they are calling on the governor or the state legislature to revamp these forms by changing state law. jose? >> so just to get this kind of ironed out and there are a lot of moving pieces to this, she expects to be back at work but has not said whether that includes issuing the licenses that the law demands she do. >> reporter: that's exactly right. what her lawyers are saying, she will not violate her conscience but won't say exactly what she plans to do when she gets back here. when we asked brian mason, has he heard from kim davis, he says he hasn't and he would not say what he would do if she were to interfere with the issuing of these licenses. >> thank you very much. let's go to washington, d.c. hillary clinton has begun to speak and the position on the
iran deal. >> who i'll speak to in a minute and also bob eihn horn and tammy, i appreciate strobe's reference to the event last night and the continuing dialogue about urgent issues facing our nation and the world. that's what brings me here today, back to brookings to talk about the question we're all grappling with. how to prevent iran from acquiring a nuclear weapon and more broadly, how to protect ourselves and our allies from the full range of threats that iran poses. the stakes are high and there are no simple or perfectly satisfying solutions. these questions and in particular, the merits of the nuclear deal recently reached with iran have divided people of good will and raised hard issues on both sides.
here's how i see it. either we move forward on the path of diplomacy and seize this chance to block iran's path to a nuclear weapon, or we turn down a more dangerous path leading to a far less certain and riskier future. that's why i support this deal. i support it as part of a larger strategy towards iran. by now the outcome in congress is no longer in much doubt. so we've got to start looking ahead to what comes next. enforcing the deal, deterring iran and its proxies and strengthening our allies. these will be my goals as president and today i want to talk about how i would achieve them. let me start by saying, i understand the skepticism so many feel about iran. i too am deeply concerned about
iranian aggression and the need to confront it. it's a ruthless, brutal regime that has the blood of americans, many others including its own people on its hands. its political rallies resound with cries of death to america. its leaders talk about wiping israel off the face of the map, most recently just yesterday. and terror against it. there's absolutely no reason to trust iran. now, vice president cheney may hope that the american people will simply forget, but the truth is, by the time president obama took office and i became secretary of state, iran was racing towards a nuclear capability. they had mastered the nuclear fuel cycle, meaning that they had the material scientists and technical know-how to create material for nuclear weapons.
they had produced and installed thousands of centrifuges, expanded their secret facilities, established a robust uranium enrichment program and defied their international obligations under the nuclear nonproliferation treaty. and they hadn't suffered many consequences. i voted for sanctions again and again as a senator from new york. but they weren't having much effect. most of the world still did business with iran. we needed to step up our game. so president obama and i pursued a two-prong strategy. pressure and engagement. we made it clear that the door to diplomacy was open if iran answered the concerns of the international community in a serious and credible way. we simultaneously launched a comprehensive campaign to
significantly raise the cost of iranian defiance and systemically increased our military capabilities in the region, deepening our cooperation with partners and sending more fire power. an additional aircraft carrier, battle ship strike aircraft and most advanced radar and missile defense systems available. meanwhile, i traveled the world, capitol by capitol, leader by leader, twisting arms to help build the coalition that produced the most effective sanctions in history. with president obama's leadership we worked with congress and the european union too cut iran off from the world's economic and financial system. and one by one we persuaded energy hungry consumers of iranian oil like india and south korea to cut back. soon iran's tankers sat rusting
in port and its economy was collapsing. these new measures were effective because we made them global. american sanctions provided the foundation but iran didn't really feel the heat until we turned this into an international campaign. so biting that iran had no choice but to negotiate. they could no longer play off one country against another. they had no place to hide. so they started looking for a way out. i first visited ohman to speak with the sultan in january of 2011 and went back later that year and sultan helped set up a see xret back channel. i sent one of my closest aides as part of a small team to begin talks with the iranians in secret. negotiations began in earnest after the iranian election in 2013. first, the bilateral talks led by deputy secretary bill burns
and jake sullivan that led to the interim agreement. then the multilateral talks lelds by john kerry and secretary ernie moniz and undersecretary wendy sherman. now there's a comprehensive agreement on iran's nuclear program. is it perfect? well, of course not. no agreement like this ever is. but is it a strong agreement? yes, it is. and we absolutely should not turn it down. the merits of the deal have been well argued so i won't go through them in great detail here. the bottom line is that it accomplishes the major goals we set out to achieve. it blocks every pathway for iran to get a bomb. and it gives us better tools for verification and inspection and to compel rigorous compliance.
without a deal, iran's breakout time, how long they need to produce enough material for a nuclear weapon, would shrink to a couple of months. with a deal, that breakout time stretches to a year, which means that if iran cheats, we'll know it. we'll have time to respond decisively. without a deal, we would have no credible inspections of iran's nuclear facilities. with a deal, we'll have unpre unprecedented access and able to monitor every aspect of their nuclear program. now, some have expressed concern that certain nuclear restrictions expire after 15 years. and we need to be vigilant about that, which i'll talk more about in a moment. but other parts are permanent, including iran's obligations under the nonproliferation treaty and their commitment to enhanced inspections under the
additional protocol. others have expressed concern that it could take up to 24 days to gain access to some of iran's facilities when we suspect cheating. i'd be the first to say that this part of the deal is not perfect. although the deal does allow for daily access to enrichment facilities and monitoring of the entire nuclear fuel cycle. it's important to focus on that because being able to monitor the supply chain is critical to what we will find out and how we will be able to respond. but our experts tell us that even with delayed access to some places, this deal does the job. microscopic nuclear particles remain for years and years and they are impossible to hide. that's why secretary moniz, a
nuclear physicist has confidence in their plan. some have suggested that we just go back to the negotiating table and get a better unspecified deal. i can certainly understand why that may sound appealing. but as someone who started these talks in the first place and built our global coalition piece by piece, i can assure you it is not realistic. plus, if we walk away now, our capacity to sustain and enforce sanctions will be severely diminished. we will be blamed not the iranians. so if we were to reject this agreement, iran would be poised to get nearly everything it wants without giving up a thing. no restrictions on their nuclear program. no real warning if tehran suddenly rushes toward a bomb. and the international sanctions regime would fall apart. no more economic consequences
for iran either. those of us who have been out there on the diplomatic front lines know that diplomacy is not the pursuit of perfection. it's the balancing of risk. and on balance, the far riskier course right now would be to walk away. great powers can't just junk agreements and expect the rest of the world to go along with us. we need to be reasonable and consistent and we need to keep our word, especially when we're trying to lead a coalition. that's how we'll make this and future deals work. but it's not enough just to say yes to this deal, of course, it isn't. we have to say yes and -- yes and we will enforce it with vig or and vigilance, yes and we will em bed it in a broader strategy to confront iran's bad behavior in the region.
yes and we will begin from day one to set conditions so iran knows it will never be able to get a nuclear weapon, not during the term of the agreement, not after, not ever. we need to be clear. and i think we have to make that very clear to iran about what we expect from them. this is not the start of some larger diplomatic opening. and we shouldn't expect that this deal will lead to broader changes in their behavior. that shouldn't be a promise for proceeding. instead, we need to be prepared for three scenarios, first, iran tr tries to cheat, something it's been quite willing to do in the past. second, iran tries to wait us out, perhaps it waits to move for 15 years when some but not all restrictions expire, and
third, iran ramps up its dangerous behavior in the region, including its support for terrorist groups like hamas and hezbollah. i believe that the success of this deal has a lot to do with how the next president grapples with these challenges. let me tell you what i would do. my starting point will be one of distrust. you remember president reagan's line about the soviets, trust but verify. my approach will be distrust and verify. we should anticipate that iran will test the next president. they'll want to see how far they can bend the rules. that won't work if i'm in the white house. i'll hold the line against iranian noncompliance and that means penalties even for small violations. keeping our allies on board but being willing to snap back
sanctions into place unilaterally if we have to. working with congress to close any gaps in the sanctions, right now members of congress are offering proposals to that effect. and i think the current administration should work with them to see whether there are additional steps that could be taken. >> finally, it means ensuring that the iaea has the resources it needs from finances to personnel to equipment to hold iran's feet to the fire. but the most important thing we can do to keep iran from cheating or trying to wait us out is to shape iranian expectations right from the start. the iranians and the world need to understand that we will act decisively if we need to. so here's my message to iran's leaders. the united states will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon. as president, i will take
whatever actions are necessary to protect the united states and our allies. i will not hesitate to take military action if iran attempts to obtain a nuclear weapon. i will set up my successor to be able to credibly make the same pledge. we will make clear to iran that our national commitment to prevention will not waiver depending on who's in office. it's permanent. and should it become necessary in the future having exhausted peaceful alternatives to turn to military force, we will have preserved and in some cases enhanced our capacity to act. and because we've proven our commitment to diplomacy first, the world will more likely join us. then there's the broader issue of countering iran's bad behavior across the region. taking nuclear weapons out of
the equation is crucial because an iran with nuclear weapons is so much more dangerous than an iran without them. but even without nuclear weapons, we still see iran's fingerprint on nearly every conflict across the middle east. they support bad actors from syria to lebanon to yemen. they vow to destroy israel and that's worth saying again. they vow to destroy israel. we cannot ever take that lightly, particularly when iran ships an advanced missiles to hezbollah and ayatollah outlines a strategy for eliminating israel or talks about how israel won't exist in 25 years just like he did today. and in addition to all of the malicious activity they already under write, we've got to anticipate that iran could use
some of the economic relief they get from this deal to pay for even more. so as president, i will raise the costs for their actions. and confront them across the board. my strategy will be based on five strong pillars. first, i will deepen america's unshakeable commitment to israel's security, including our longstanding tradition of guaranteeing israel's qualityive edge and increase support for israeli rocket and missile defenses and for intelligence sharing. i'll sell israel the most sophisticated fighter aircraft ever developed and f-35, will work together to develop and implement better tunnel detection technology to prevent arms smuggling and kidnapping and strongest possible missile defense system for northern israel, which has been subjected to hezbollah's attacks for
years. >> hillary clinton at the brookings institute, giving her vision of what she would do if she were president. after this agreement with iran was implemented. and she had very specific and concrete things to say about how she would implement that agreement and monitor that country and to see its actions. i want to bring in our contributor steve clemons. thank you for being with me. your reaction of what you heard hillary clinton say and not say this this morning. >> this is hillary clinton reminding a lot of people in the democratic base what they used to be worried about her, that this is a candidate who's clutch is very much in the position of being prepared for war, being prepared for conflict, very dark muscular side of hillary clinton. though she supports the iran deal, what we heard is a sort of
repudation of the repivot to asia saying we were going to double down in the middle east. which is not where the future of the united states is. i think that one of the disappointing things i heard, neither an outreach to the iranian people, in which this is a very important day and moment for them to perhaps go a different track, and a continuation of though israel is certainly? jeopardy, the real thing going on in the middle east is the sunni/shia civil war and she gave no indication that she understands the conflict -- >> true although she -- >> neoconservative sounding speech. >> she did say that whatever action she would take, if she is indeed president, not hesitating to use military options if iran tries to obtain a nuclear weapon, she did say that she at least had given diplomacy i.e., this deal and others, the first
crack at possible, you know situations. we've been showing consistent poll numbers where either majority or pluralty of americans oppose the deal. how many political risk is there for coming out in strong support of the agreement? >> there's no risk. she's an architect of the deal. and i think steve, may i respectfully disagree with you. i think this deal is so complex and there's so many parts to it. if she expanded this into a broader speech, putting in other elements to comment on, you would not be able to make as many -- i think it's too hard. you can't do too much. here's what i think is one of the most important -- >> i respect. this is hillary as a neocon, not as a realist. >> now that i understand. here one thing, when she said diplomacy is not the pursuit of perfection, it is the balancing of risks. that gives a benchmark of where she's starting from, saying to
people as a political -- if you look at her speech also as a political statement, hey, this isn't perfect, but just think, gentlemen, she is laying down the predicate, no matter where you stand politically, no one will come up with anything perfect. >> steve, let me kind of bring that thought to a conclusion in she's saying no agreement is perfect, we have to be -- make sure we're monitoring it all. there's an article in today's wall street journal that says in the last months as secretary of state she helped open the door to this dramatic shift in u.s. policy towards iran in accepting that tehran would be able to maintain some capacity to produce nuclear fuel. so is it now not saying -- is it now not saying well, we have to verify it, but steve, they change the their acceptance of what iran could or could not have just right before this negotiation got intense. >> there's absolutely no doubt that many of the people, many
democrats before the negotiations began held the position that iran could not have any reprocessing capacity at all. that shifted. we have the former president here eight years ago who is he we're ready to do a deal. telling us secretly on the side trying to talk to the bush administration at the time and said we're really interested in doing a deal but you have to give us some minor r and d level reprocessing capacity. she did shift and i think every john kerry and barack obama and others realize there was no deal without giving iran some reprocessing capacity. >> steve and lynn, thank you very much. we have breaking news to go to right now. i appreciate both of you being with me. i want to go to baltimore. the baltimore city commission just accepted and agreed to the compensation that freddie gray's family will be receiving from authorities. >> we can avoid years and years of protracted civil litigation and the potential harm to the
community and the divisiveness which might result. we've seen the impact of the city on one motions hearing to talk about the potential cost of years and years of civil litigation. we can't even quantify that cost. the divisiveness that we talked about and need foreclosure is true for the family, true for mr. gray's family and six officers and entire baltimore city police department. all of whom face a prospects of extended legal proceedings going on for years after the civil trials are completed. to cover the cost of the settlement, as was stated, to cover the costs of the settlement, more than sufficient funds are available. entirely from assured recovery and cost saving as and other
nonrelated litigation, general funds are not impacted by this settlement. all of us realize that money cannot, will not, no possibility to pbring back a loved one. but i hope that this settlement will bring at least a measure of closure for the family, for the police department and for our city. thank you. >> the mayor of baltimore stephanie rawlings blake talking about the $6.4 million settlement that the city has agreed with freddie gray's family and that puts an end to one, just one chapter in a very difficult time for the city of baltimore. certainly for the family of freddie gray. msnbc's joy reid joins me now this morning. joy, your reaction? this was clearly something that the mayor was saying is a very difficult thing for all sides involved to deal with. >> reporter: absolutely, jose.
this i think is for the city as you said, it is good news on several fronts for the city of baltimore on the one hand as the mayor mentioned, they will now avoid potentially protracted and costly litigation with the family of freddie gray for the family, there is a measure of closure here, although as the mayor mentioned it cannot bring back their loved one but offers the family of possibility of closure. don't underestimate the importance of the city of really avoiding that potentially protracted litigation, both because of the cost of it and also because you still have the trials of these six officers coming. i will say it's very important to note, that this settlement will not impact the trials of those officers. this kind of a settlement is not admissible in those court cases according to attorneys who i've spoken with who are familiar with the circumstances. this will not impact the trial of the six officers but help the city move closer to closure. >> they can't in any way invoke
the set many. in the six officers legal process? >> that's correct. inadmissib inadmissible. the mayor -- and i want to expand on what you said, there was no way to put a cost on what years of civil litigation would cost versus just dealing with this settlement now, but lgs the divisiveness it would generate in a city with a lot of problems recently. >> keep in mind the tension that already exists because officers charged and indicted caused a lot of tension between the police department and mayor's office. you've seen the police chief in baltimore forced out. there's been work stoppage as or at least allegations that police have been doing slowdowns. you have a skyrocketing crime rate and murder rate in west baltimore where freddie gray died. you can imagine the psychological impact of having not just the six trials, which could be six separate trails but additional court case involving civil litigation that would have
been really difficult for the city itself. also a very important to note, in making this settlement, the city is admitting no liability and admitting no fault or wrong on the part of the officer. they are going out of their way to not have this impact those cases, although on vugsly the jury will know about it. >> thanks for being with me this morning. >> always graleat to see you, jose. >> tomorrow andrea mitchell will have an exclusive interest vi with stephanie rawlings blake noon eastern time. still ahead on the rundown, the u.s. wayed into the flood of migrants heading for europe's borders. john kerry is heading to capitol hill for briefings today but it's this video of a camera woman appearing to trip and kick fleeing migrants in hungary that's getting a lot of attention this morning. we'll have the latest for you on "the rundown."
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and the possibility that some of those refugees fleeing the middle east could end up on america's doorstep. today secretary of state john kerry is holding a briefing on how many syrians the u.s. is willing to take in. meanwhile, the head of the commission has a plan to distribute 160,000 asylum seekers across all countries in the european union. he said tackling the crisis, quote, is a matter of human dignity. today australia said it would take another 12,000 syrians, but all of this is just a drop in the bucket. take a look at these numbers. the u.n. said 850,000 people, seven times the number covered in entirety eu plan, are expected to seek refuge in europe by the end of next year. hungary, a key point on the migrant route, has been warned to expect another 40,000 people by the end of next week. talk to us about what's happening today there. >> reporter: well, jose, we've
seen since this morning here the train station in budapest, hundreds of refugees queuing up inside the station to take them to germany or austria. there were no major problems in the earlier train, but you can feel the growing frustration for refugees having to wait for hours to get on the train. they were waiting outside the station where i am now for four days. you can see tens of thousands of volunteers, aid workers who are providing food, shelter, water. some are even playing ball games next to me with them, but unfortunately, not every hungarian has shown the same spirit of solidarity, jose. yesterday we saw some pretty disturbing video of a hungarian camera woman working for an on-line internet-based channel who tripped a man, a refugee, a man carrying a child who just broke through police lines surrounding the refugee center across the border with serbia,
and then she moves on to kick another child who just did the same. obviously the woman was immediately fired from the tv station after that video emerged with the justification that, of course, and this is the understatement of the year, that it was unacceptable behavior, jose. >> just a horrible thing to watch. thank you very much, reporting as he has been all week from budapest. with so many people fleeing the war zones in syria and iraq, it seems logical to ask -- and i've been seeing a localit of these questions being asked by many people. are refugees the only ones making the trip? could isis terrorists blend into the flood of migrants and end up sneaking into western europe? he served as british senior officer in charge of defense. good to see you this morning. >> good morning, jose. >> how concerned are you that maybe this question we're hearing over and over again, that maybe isis or others could be bringing their own people in this wave of migrants into
europe? >> i think the question to me, jose, is to what end sung-su who was the ancient military strategist in general who said if you want to know your enemy, you have to become your enemy. i have to wonder why isis would try to infiltrate any refugee lines. what we have seen in the past is isis trying to pull back refugees. there's been many instances on the turkish-syria border where isis has pulled back migrants trying to escape. i'm not sure why isis would actually try to become part of those migration trails. if we're thinking about foreign fighters who have gone to syria to fight with isis and no longer want to be there and sort of want to get lost in the crowd in order to come back to their respect active countries, i would go another route. at the moment all the police attention, all the local authorities' attention are focused on these migration trails that you're showing on the screen at the moment. if i was an isis member, a
foreign fighter that wanted to get back into my own country, for example, the islamic state had turned on me, i would want to go a quiet route that wasn't looked on by the authorities. >> i can't think of a better day than starting with a quote from sun-su. here's anotherhypothesis. what if isis says, you know those guys that went into "charlie hebdo," those people who have been doing lone wolf attacks in europe, the guy on the train between brussels and paris? why don't we bring in somebody who is willing to do something like that, mix them in with this horrible, difficult situation that these migrants are going through, let them blend through, and then when they're in europe, they could continue doing those kinds of lone wolf attacks? >> it's a theory, but i get back to my original point, jose, is that the authorities will already be on this. they'll be looking at migration
flows, they'll be looking at photographs. they already know a number of people who have gone to syria and are coming back. again, if i was an isis fighter, i would be keeping well away from those migration influxes back into europe. but one thing i would say, let's look at the causal factors. everything going on at the moment is reactionary. if you speak to the refugees coming out of syria, most of them are saying assad is the reason, not the islamic state. we know they're caught between the islamic state and assad and that's the problem we need to be reacting to as well. >> and further away, syria, iraq, yemen and libya. who knows if all that will cause massive waves. hillary clinton still speaking at brookings in washington outlining her view on the iran nuclear deal. we'll continue to watch that for you on msnbc and be right back.
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good morning. once again, i'm jose diaz-balart. in our miami studios, we're following two stories this morning. any time the senate will start its legislative day, this as the white house built a firewall of support for the agreement. and last hour it got a full-throated backing from hillary clinton and an idea of how she'll approach tehran. >> my approach will be distrust and verify. we should anticipate that iran will test the next president. they'll want to see how far they can bend the rules. that won't work if i'm in the white house. >> nbc's luke russert is in capitol hill this morning. what is she trying to accomplish? >> reporter: she's doing two things. number one, she's trying to assert herself as a real tough commander in chief, someone who
could work around this deal if she got two terms and someone who, quote, unquote, will not just hand over the farm, as one democratic operative told me. however, what she's also doing having a full defense of this deal is trying to prove that the base that was so against her in 2008 because of her vote in support of the iraq war, by coming out and being supportive of president obama, being supportive of john kerry, she's trying to talk to those people who believe this deal is the best alternative to war and the best thing to do for progressive politics. she also has a lot of friends on this issue in the democratic senate. as we know, four out of five yesterday undecided ended up supporting this deal as well as nancy pelosi in the house, so a good majority as well. she's right there where the party is, but more important, as she enters into a primary battle with bernie sanders and possibly joe biden, she is putting her energy where the party is. >> because really, on capitol hill, and what a change 24 hours
has made for this, legislatively speaking, the deal is a done deal. >> yeah, it's not a question of "if" anymore, jose, it's really a question of when. we now get into the procedural happenings here on the hill. we all thought that the house was going to vote on the resolution of this approval sometime this week. it would no doubt pass but we would not be able to hit 290. we now think that could be delayed because there is some talk from republican members and conservatives, they want president obama to disloclose a the quote, unquote, side deals, so we have to see where we're going on that. the senate could see that happening next week. remember, they have a lot of other business they have to do this month in terms of funding the government, number one, as well as the pope's visit. considering this is a question of it's not if but when, they probably want to try to expedite it as quickly as possible
because they have so many other things they have to do, jose. >> starting off this hour, luke russert on capitol hill. thank you, sir. also happening today on capitol hill, joining forces, so to speak, two gop presidential candidates, ted cruz and donald trump, will rally outside to protest the iran-america deal. here's trump last night on fox news. >> it's one of the most incompetent contracts. forget about deals from any standpoint. whether you look at real estate, whether you look at war, it's one of the most incompetently drawn contracts i've ever seen. we could have had a better deal, we could have had a stronger deal. we should have doubled up the sanctions, negotiated for strength. we get nothing from this deal. then you look at certain countries opposed to it. now all of a sudden they come -- as an example, saudi arabia, they came back. what are they getting? you know what we're getting in terms of guarantees and weapons and money, probably? >> meanwhile, the american people apparently aren't sold on
it. in a new pew research poll, 49% said they do not support the deal. casey, now that 49% have crossed that threshold, what's the point for opponents now? >> it's all rhetoric and all pushing toward the general election campaign against hillary clinton who you saw today start to try and navigate. it is actually a tricky path between supporting this deal and the president and making sure she's still coming across as tough enough, particularly for supporters of i ssrael. that's what we're seeing today on capitol hill as ted cruz, donald trump, sarah palin, other tea party feeders all rally on the west front. at this point, in particular, evangelical voters are a focus for cruz, and in some ways are becoming one for trump as he looks to iowa as a place where he might actually be able to sustain his campaign. and for those voters, this is going to be particularly
resonant because so many leaders view this deal as a threat to the safety and security of i e isra israel. that means a lot to them and something they'll probably vote on come caucus time. >> in the past we've seen mr. trump really attract huge crowds everywhere he goes. is this what we expect today also, a huge crowd to see the trump crew show? >> reporter: well, i think that's going to be the most interesting thing about today, jose, the two of them appearing on the same stage. ted cruz has been pretty eager to both publicly and privately embrace donald trump. he likes to talk about, or those close to him often privately talk about the fact they have a private positive relationship that they met at trump tower, and cruz is setting himself up to inherit a lot of support that trump has should trump ultimately implode. that, of course, has to go somewhere. you can't forget cruz has raised more money than basically
everyone else in this republican field other than jeb bush. his campaign is chugging along behind the scenes. now, for trump, he has crews to a degree, although less than cruz has probably talked about him, and that's because ted cruz has taken great pains not to say anything negative about trump. i think that reflects both cruz's actions but also trump's understanding of his own political support and the fact that he is drawing a lot of people who would otherwise be on cruz's team. >> casey hunt on capitol hill. thank you. >> reporter: thanks, jose. another close call at international airport in las vegas. a plane full of passengers safe today after their jet caught fire just before takeoff. hallie jackson joins me now with more on how this potentially deadly situation was able to turn out okay.
hallie? >> reporter: good morning, jose. new this morning we learned the ntsb will send three investigators here to las vegas where the runway is back hope to try to figure out what went wrong, but passengers involved in this say they know what went right. a fast and orderly evacuation that helped save lives. on the tarmac, a terrifying scene. >> we have an aircraft on fire with people coming out of it. >> reporter: thick smoke swallowing a british airways plane on fire on the runway. as all 157 passengers, including letha dunn, evacuated, shooting down the escape chutes. >> behind us are giant flames. >> reporter: around the airport, people watching in shock. >> please be off the plane. this is insane. >> reporter: airport officials say the boeing 777 was taxiing forteoff to london's gatwick airport just after 4:00 p.m.
when the left engine caught fire. emergency crews deployed as crews raced to the plane, hosing it down. 40 minutes later, the fire was out. >> it was up in that chute and i could see the smoke and flames and i thought it could go up at any time. >> reporter: as he was preparing for the 10-hour flight, he watched from the ground, shaken but safe. more than a dozen people hospitalized with only minor injuries. >> as soon as the crew heard the passengers say there was a fire, there was no hesitation from them whatsoever. the exit doors were open. it was like clockwork for them. obviously scary for them, too. >> i just spoke to the pilot. he said everyone is off the aircraft. >> reporter: pilots, like this flight, train for these kinds of scenarios. the crew and flight attendants made it off, too. they promised to help with whatever the passengers need. >> i felt very lucky to be on the ground. i'm feeling very lucky now, and i'm just so glad everything went
so well. >> reporter: patients on the ground have been treated and released. the ntsb will be looking at a few things, specifically how the system on an aircraft able to extinguish flames functioned properly. a same-sex couple getting a marriage license at the office as the county clerk who refused them is home after spending five days in jail. the crowd cheered kim davis after she left jail, having been in jail because of her refusal to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples. she is expected to be back to work on monday. sarah doloff is here. sarah? >> reporter: she's taking a couple days to recoup before she comes back to work. that is expected friday or monday. the judge has ordered her not to
interfere with her deputy clerks issuing those licenses when she goes back to work. her lawyers haven't said exactly what she will do, but they have said repeatedly she will not violate her conscience. the deputy clerk inside this morning, brian mason, said even if she comes back to work and orders her to stop issuing the licenses, he's not going to listen, he's going to continue to issue those. earlier this morning we saw an eighth couple granted their licenses. they're from california, flew in to obtain this license. all these couples have 30 days to get married from the day they pick up their license. davis' attorneys are arguing since they don't have her signature, these are not valid, however, the county attorney and the governor of the state both say these are valid licenses. back to you. >> thank you very much, sarah, for that report. house speaker john boehner in the gop conference about to speak live on the hill. we're monitoring that. we'll also hear from baltimore mayor stephanie
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in the case of the 43 missing college students in mexico, new documents obtained by the university grad program of journalism appeared to have involvement in the disappearance almost a year ago. while the mayor and his wife are behind bars in connection with the case, the lack of concrete answers over the last year has rocked not only the mexican town but the entire country.
with me now is the journalist who obtained these documents, and fellow at the journalist program, steven fisher. thank you for being with me. >> good morning, jose. >> what have you found? >> jose, we found throughout an investigation i've been doing along with her unanimonandez he berkeley, the murderer was on the scene that night. he deployed two units out to every scene of attack against the students. this is especially important considering that the secretary of defense of mexico, soon after the attack, came out and said, my soldiers -- the men from the 27th battalion were not on the scene that night. in fact, they were in another town. then he came back and reiterated that in july, saying it's a good thing we weren't there because things could have gone a lot worse. what we have in these depositions is step by step what the military did that night,
where they went, and that, we believe, for the mexican government is incredibly damning. >> just to bring it back to the folks that maybe aren't up to speed on this, this was a group of students that were traveling through close to where they lived and studied to the town of iguala. when they got to that town of iguala the 26th of september, they were picked up by police, and the story goes that they were handed over to cartel thugs who then killed them and incinerated them. so the mayor and his wife are in prison, the federal government has said from day one, correct, they had no knowledge of this. this was just a local corruption issue. but your documents seem to show something totally different. >> that's right, and it's important to know that we've been in this investigation now for the past 10 months, and we revealed that the federal police, the state police along with the municipal police were on the scene that night and were
present during the attack of the students. we also show that the majority of the witnesses in this case -- this is according to the mexican government's own criminal file we got access to -- were brutally tortured, the majority of them. so this revelation of the military being on the scene of the attack that night is the latest in what we found, and really it goes -- it corroborates what the mission for human rights said just yesterday. we were able to make those documents public. >> i appreciate you being on with me and bringing this important story to the front. thank you, steve fisher, for being with me. i want to go back to baltimore. the mayor sholdi ins holding a conference. >> our city's attorneys came to the conclusion that the $6.4 million settlement is in the best interests of protecting taxpayers. i ultimately agreed with that recommendation. in looking at the settlement, i acknowledge that it is relatively unusual for the city
to choose to settle a civil claim involving alleged police misconduct prior to the resolution of a criminal case. but in a limited number of cases involving the need for extraordinary circumstances, the city has made a decision to settle civil liability prior to the adjudication of federal charges. the purpose of the civil settlement is to bring an important measure of closure to the gray family, to the community, and to the city, and to avoid years and years of protracted civil litigation and potential harm to the community and the divisiveness which might result. by reaching a civil settlement now, we avoid the continuing anxiety and distraction of more legal procedures going on for years after the six criminal trials are over.
both for the six officers, but as well as we eliminate that anxiety and distraction for the community, for the city as a whole. to cover the costs of the settlement, more than sufficient funds are available entirely from recoveries and cost savings in unrelated litigation. despite the specific high-profile -- excuse me, despite this high-profile civil settlement, it's important to point out the overall gains we have made by improving community-police relations. we've seen reductions in the number of complaints alleging police misconduct and police courtesy as well as reduction in a number of lawsuits filed against the city. and on a final note, i again want to extend my most sincere condolences to the family of freddie gray. i understand that money cannot bring back the loss of your son,
your loved ones, but i hope this settlement will bring a measure of closure to his family and friends. i open it up to questions. [ inaudible question ] >> i don't know the specific amount of days, but the settlement negotiations have been going on for some months. [ inaudible question ] >> absolutely. >>. [ inaudible question ] >> the notification that there was intended federal litigation. [ inaudible question ] [ inaudible response ]
>> yes, that was an issue that was discussed, considered. we went to great pains in our remarks as did the mayor in her remarks to make it plain that the settlement of the civil case, there is no relationship to the issues that are before the court in the criminal proceedings. >> why now, this moment? >> well, because the discussions began actually three and a half months ago, and they concluded in the latter part of august, so we reach we have reached an agreement with them, and considering an option of delay for another couple weeks, there is never a good time in a case that has pending motions and now six trials back to back, so we consider them discussed among ourselves the option of delaying the settlement for 10 days, and the result clearly would have been the judge will decide whatever he's going to decide in
the next few days on venue, and if he decided not to move venue and we settle this case 10 days from now, the defense lawyers will be back arguing change of venue and the whole discussion would be about the impact of this action on venue rather than focusing on the impact of the publicity back in the spring. >> so there you see it, a press conference moments after the agreement was announced, settlement of $6.4 million from the city of baltimore to the family of freddie gray. i want to bring in chief legal correspondent ari albert. what does this mean legally? >> legally it means the death suits, the type of investigation into the officers are being avoided, avoided so that the family will receive this money. as the mayor has said and emphasized, this does not legally change, affect or impact these ongoing enforcement
agencies against those officers illegally wronged in his death. it goes around the country when you have a city paying out this month, $6 million for his death, prior to any adjudication of what these officers may or may not have done. they're innocent but pleading guilty and facing serious charges. >> does it in any way imply that the city recognizes fault, guilt on this? >> what they are trying to say is. about the responsibility, everything that goes into a criminal trial. indeed, it would be almost inappropriate for the mayor in her role to prejudge that. yes, jose, it does imply that at
least as a matter of. civil suits are about money, and as a matter of money, paying out this settlement now as opposed to going through a civil suit and potentially paying more later. there is a way for city officials to thread this needle and say they're doing what they think is legally required in a civil context but is totally separate from the trial of these officers. >> does that negate all other civil suits, for example, against the accused officers? >> what it does is a settlement is basically an agreement between the aggrieved party, in other words, the family of freddie gray, and the city has responsibility over all the police and any other actions done in the government's name. it basically an agreement for the family to drop any of those
potential suits. so with regard to freddie gray's family and regarding any potential -- they're saying, we're not going to sue because we're taking this money out of court, not going to trial. . what a civil suit is, if we take a step back, is private parties, in other words, the family looking at this situation saying, we're not going to do any of these cases. i'm sure there are people in the law enforcement community that will look at this negatively and say, look, why not let the officers have their trial before the city comes in and starts handing out settlement money? >> thank you for being with me. we'll, of course, continue to monitor this news out of baltimore.
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just a short time ago, hillary clinton made her case to support the nuclear deal with iran against the iranian regime. >> the united states will never allow you to acquire a nuclear weapon. as president, i will take whatever actions are necessary to protect the united states and our allies. i will not hesitate to take military action if iran attempts to obtain a nuclear weapon. and i will set up my successor to be able to credibly make the same pledge. >> we bring in carson gutierrez, congressman from illinois and a member of congress. good to see you. >> good to see you, jose. >> i want your reaction on what you heard hillary clinton say earlier today. >> very on point. i said this earlier on, this is the first chance i have in 22
years in the house of representatives to vote for diplomacy and vote for peace and not vote for another war. i think it's an historic achievement on the part of this president, and in the end, jose, should they not keep their part of the bargain, we have the tools necessary to take it out and to disarm any nuclear attempt from iran. but in the interim period, what they're saying is, we're going to take all of our nuclear installations and all of the advancements we made, we're going to disarm and we're going to look towards peace. i say let's give the opportunity for diplomacy and peace a chance. i'm so excited. and what senator clinton said just a moment ago is absolutely right. this country can take military action, but shouldn't we first give diplomacy and our position of world leadership, right? we've accomplished with iran something we never could have accomplished alone. we accomplished it because we are now part of a national leadership, a global leadership. we couldn't have done it in the
united nations, we couldn't have done it alone, but if we have to go it alone, we will go it alone to make sure they never acquire a nuclear weapon. >> we heard from the other side the same topic. >> look, this is a bad deal. most americans oppose it. most members of congo poress op it, including democratic members of both the house and the senate. at this point i think the president has lost this debate with the american people. he lost it the moment that he agreed to a deal that allows iran to stay on a path to develop a nuclear weapon. >> do you think, congressman, this is something that the house of representatives and the senate should take up and take up very vigorously, a thorough look at this deal one way or another? >> sure. but jose, let's be clear. the speaker knows that the vast majority of his membership said no to the deal before they even
read the deal. so they were against it from the very beginning. so it wasn't as though you had a republican caucus or speaker of the house that was going to say, hey, let's sit down and talk about this. they were against it from the very beginning for partisan political purposes. having said that, look, we're going to have a debate today, we're going to have a debate tomorrow in the house of representatives, we're going to have a vote. they have until the 17th of september to either vote to accept it or to reject the deal. after that, it will become part of what has been negotiated, and the deal will be what it is. look, jose, i doubt very much that there's ever going to be a vote in the senate. today we have 41 democratic senators who have pulled together, and maybe we'll have a vote in the senate. we'll have a vigorous debate regardless on this issue. but in the end i believe that the agreement -- because what
speaker boehner doesn't ever tell you or the opponents, they don't tell you what the better deal is. they don't tell you what the alternative to this is. i know that there are two people i listen to over the weekend: dick cheney, a warmonger, and colin powell, a man who has served this nation, and colin powell says we should move forward with this deal. i'm going with colin powell. >> congressman verks qui, very f i could, your response to this wave of migrants passing into europe. what is it do you think the united states should or could or maybe not be doing to help in this? >> look, we are a world leader. we are particularly responsible for the chaos and the lack of civil government that exists in our intervention in iraq. we knew what could possibly happen there. we knew that the spillover into sir yar is part of that
intervention. we have a responsibility. certainly we cannot challenge germany to do better, france to do better, italy to do better. i think we should follow pope francisco's call and we should take in immigrants, too, to this country and refugees that are fleeing this terrible, horrendous situation. >> congressman, always a pleasure to see you. thank you for being with me. by the way, south america is joining in the chorus, the country saying they will welcome migrants. six countries -- take a look at them -- argentina, brazil, chile, you are ga and venezuela. they are closing the border between colombia and venezuela. thank you for being with me. >> thank you, jose. >> what are these six countries
doing to help facilitate transportation of the migrants to their countries? >> each country has offered to take several thousand. in the case of venezuela they're offering 20,000 people from syria who count as refugees. not clear how they would transport them, who would be in charge of it, but saying they would welcome them and give them legal status is a big step. >> we're missing badu, chile and a few others, but almost the entire map of south america is willing to take in some of the people. i want to talk to you meanwhile about what's going on on the border between venezuela and colombia. it is also a major crisis. >> yes, it is. at the same time venezuela has offered to take syrians, they have removed about 140,000 colombians just from their own soil and others that felt they had to leave. you're seeing images of people
fleeing and going back to colombia. >> why are they doing that? you see them cross over with small suitcases and their families as they cross over. >> there was a shootout along the border between some smugglers, people smuggling things across the border which has happened for generations, and venezuela border guards. the president of venezuela uses that as a reason to crack down on paramilitaries, people involved in this smuggling. he closed much of the border and demanded these deportations. that's created a lot of fear in the very large colombian community inside venezuela. that's the ostensible reason. the likely also reason is medulla, the president of prince wales, the economy is going very badly and they had their midterm congressional elections coming up in december. he needs distractions, and an
incident in colombia could fit the bill for him. >> whatever happens, the people who suffer are the young people that have lived there for generations and who has forced the plea. no one seems to care, apparently, for that. thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. developing news from republican presidential candidate donald trump. we are just learning he has sent a letter to the president of cnn requesting that all profits of the network broadcasts to the nation's debate they can wednesday goes to veteran groups. trump's rning? he's the reason cnn ad works have gone through the roof is. we're bringing in jane for this. jane, good morning.
>> good morning. we saw 26 million viewers at that debate. for the last debate, which is sort of outrageous for a presidential debate. this is donald trump trying to see just how far that clout will take him. i can't imagine cnn doing this, and for a guy who says he's worth $9 billion, why doesn't he hand over all this money to those veterans' groups? >> right, i think it's right, but who is counting? i have a copy of the letter here. there is no implied threat, right? >> no, there's absolutely no threat. at the end of it he says, you know, tell me what you're going to do. wouldn't this be awesome? he started just throwing out this proposal as just a way for extra press. you read this letter and he says, well, i'm not going to bla brag, and he goes on to brag. he's trying to pump up his own numbers, not talk about his own numbers and go the other way.
>> but on the other hand, this is what he says in the letter. he says, daigh over the weekend it was announced by several thousand dollars. it's all due to donald j. trump. look, this is -- politically this is a very smart move to kind of put the highlight on these news organizations that are making a ton of dough off it. give some of that dough or all of it to worthwhile causes, he says. >> absolutely. and it makes donald trump look good. it makes it looks like he's standing up to the political establishment. this is sort of his m.o. it's what makes him popular and makes him look so good to the outsider. he's saying, you know what, i think we should do it this way. it's yet another way to make him seem different, like an
outsider, and that's what surges his poll numbers. he sees dr. carson surge as well, and i think he's looking to make himself look more like an outsider, even better. crowds are expected in our nation's capitol where in less than an hour, donald trump will be speaking. this and am more on "the rundown."
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who knows, one of these kids just might be the one. to clean the oceans, to start a movement, or lead a country. it may not be obvious yet, but one of these kids is going to change the world. we just need to make sure she has what she needs. welcome to windows 10. the future starts now for all of us. developing now in baltimore, the city's spending panel has unanimously approved a $6.4 million settlement with the family of freddie gray this morning. gray was a 25-year-old african-american who died in april after suffering a critical spine injury while in police custody. mayor stephanie rawlings-blake spoke just moments ago. >> the decision to settle the civil claims is completely unrelated to the criminal case
the six officers currently face. the city's decision to settle the civil case should not be interpreted as passing any judgment on guilt or innocence of the officers. this settlement is about making the right fiscal decision for the city of baltimore. >> at the same time, a judge is expected to make a decision this week whether the trials of the six officers accused in the case will be moved out of baltimore. all six have pleaded not guilty. joining me now is leslie warren. leslie, good to see you. >> same to you. >> what does this mean, not only for the city of baltimore but the family of freddie gray? >> this is used to avoid a lengthy civil suitcase. you have the criminal proceedings, which are kind of one bucket, and then you have the civil proceedings, which are another. very often the families will sue
the city in a wrongful death suit. the family of freddie gray indicated they were likely going to do that but they wanted to wait until the federal investigation was concluded. so what the settlement will do preempts that. the city will now not face a civil lawsuit, rather, the settlement has been reached. >> so even though, as you say, they are in different buckets, civil versus criminal, doesn't it play -- have an impact on a case where these six officers have said they're not guilty and yet the city they worked for has said, let me pay the family $6.4 million. isn't that in a way saying, yeah, we did something wrong here? >> it is, in fact, an admittance by the city that there is certainly enough evidence here that the family would likely be able to win a wrongful death lawsuit. that is a much more lower burden of proof than the criminal case would be in which you have to prove the guilt of the officers. a wrongful death suit is just that, proving that, in fact, this person should not have died
or couldn't have died. that's, like i said, a step lower than what they have to prove in court which is that it was, in fact, criminal that this person did die. we see this very often in cases where people -- even in these cases where the officers are not charged with a crime. you saw this, for example, with eric gardner where the officers who choked him from nypd were not kmarjcharged, the grand jur returned him with a clean bill, however, the city paid millions of dollars, preempting a lawsuit. >> and the city protects its employees, correct? >> yes, it does. what it means is what remains is just the criminal proceedings. there is no longer a threat of civil litigation. >> leslie warren, thank you for being with me this morning. >> thanks for having me. i want you to know that tomorrow andrea mitchell will
have an exclusive interview with stephanie rawlings-blake. big news this morning. hillary clinton's first apology for only using her personal e-mail account during her time as secretary of state. >> in retrospect, certainly, as i look back at it now, even though it was allowed, i should have used two accounts, one for personal, one for work-related e-mails. that was a mistake. i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. and i'm trying to be as transparent as i possibly can. >> and then she, last hour, spoke publicly again. this time it was her support for the iran nuclear deal. with me now is msnbc reporter benji sarlan and kaye hall.
what happened before when she said she was not sorry for this issue? >> she did indicate she wouldn't apologize. i think what we saw was a recognition by clinton and her campaign that this is a story that's not going away. of course, saying i'm sorry is probably not going to stop republicans continuing to hammer her on this. we'll continue to hear about hillary clinton's e-mails until election day in 2016, obviously. it removes one of the bows in republicans' quiver by making it impossible for republicans to say she did all these things that are shady and wrong and potentially criminal, and she didn't even apologize for it. she's now apologized. she's gotten it out of the way, and she can move on, although, like i said, i don't think this story is going away any time soon. >> so, benji, what are the next steps here for the clinton campaign? >> the next step for the clinton campaign is trying to get the message on anything else. part of the reason they're taking this new aggressive tact
and trying to reach out to supporters to personally apologize for what happened here, is drowning out the other message. hillary put out a sweeping campaign proposal, and she's giving major speeches on iran and how she would police the iran deal rather than tear it up. there is a drip-drip-drip of this e-mail news, so i think it's time to focus on something else. >> we carried a big part of it this morning on msnbc where she said a policy in the clinton administration with iran would be distrust and verified, that in some way this will differentiate her from other folks growing on the democratic side. >> hillary clinton always had a more hawkish posture than other democrats in her party. she is going to be trying to
strike a balance on this issue where she is at least ostensibly supporting the obama administration she, of course, was part of for four years, while still creating space between her and a plan orchestrated by the president that may or may not end up being very popular, may or may not end up working come this time next year. so she'll want to put some distance there and give herself a little bit of room to say i would handle this differently in my own way and trust my own experience when you're thinking about who to vote for in november. >> jeb bush was on the late night with steven colbert last night. let's take a look at it. >> your campaign poster is just "jeb," j-e-b with an exclamation
point. why just jeb? >> i've been using it for years. it connotes excitement -- >> jeb! how many of us when you get excited about things, you can just go, jeb! >> when i was in florida they do, either from happiness or deep anger. >> so how did he do, benji? >> i thought he did pretty well, managed to keep loose. there is a lot of pressure on. this is the most watched late night show for years and years and years with steven colbert's debut. it's not your usual venue for an interview. this is definitely an opportunity for jeb bush here, just because he's been getting attacked so much by donald trump for not being exciting, for not being entertaining, perhaps sticking in, just remember, if you put an exclamation point.
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proves the e-mail issue is not just a media frenzy but perhaps damaging her campaign. donald trump and ted cruz appear to team up together in a rally protesting the iran nuclear deal in washington. also ahead -- people have rallied and you are a strong people! just keep on pressing. >> she's out of jail, but what happens when she goes back to work? we're live on the ground in kentucky. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. developing right now, hillary clinton makes an abrupt shift in how she's dealing with this e-mail controversy that's dogged her presidential campaign. she's gone from being defiant to now apologizing for using a private e-mail server while secretary of state. >> i do think i could have