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far, 11 candidates in primetime, all full of substance, sarcasm and plenty of sound. donald trump taking heat from all sides, including from carly fiorina. another strong performance for her. she took on the front-runner and looked ahead to the general election by calling out hillary clinton and this morning she tells "morning joe" she is gratified by the response. >> i'm going to keep doing what i've been doing, which is working hard every single day to answer every question, to meet as many voters as i can, to be transparent about who i am and what i intend to do. but i hope what people saw last night is that i can win this job and i can do this job. >> we've got it all covered for you. nbc's peter alexander was there for all of the fireworks. he's with us this morning. what a night last night. >> reporter: jose, good morning to you. is it morning morning already? this was quite a long night in
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simi valley. >> paul rand called out donald trump for being ugly and carly fiorina for being beautiful. in true to form, donald trump broke ronald reagan's 11th commandment, teeing off on a republican rival. >> first of all, rand paul shouldn't be on this stage, he's number 11, he's got 1% on the polls. >> his attacking people on their looks, tall, short, fat, ugly, my goodness, that's junior high. >> i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said.
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>> i think she's a got a beautiful face and i think she's a beautiful woman. >> jeb bush led the charge taking on trump. >> it doesn't work for anybody on this stage. >> jeb, i was a business stage. i got along with clinton and i got along with everybody. excuse me, one second. >> no, the simple fact is, donald -- >> more energy tonight, i like that. >> later bush defended his family name. >> and your brother's administration gave us barack obama. >> as it relates to my brother, there's one thing i know for sure, he kept us safe. i don't know if you remember, donald. >> many reviews declared carly fiorina the biggest winner. >> if we will not stand up and force president obama to veto this bill, shame on us. >> clear specifics about foreign affairs. >> having met vladimir putin, i wouldn't talk to him at all. >> and pointed critiques of hillary clinton. >> if you want to stump a democrat, ask them to name an
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accomplishment of mrs. clinton's. >> for the gop's, -- >> if they get their news in spanish, i want to hear that directly from me, not from a translator at uni did tvision. >> 40 years ago i smoked marijuana. i'm sure others might have and might not want to say it in front of 40 million people. my mother's not happy that i did. >> on picking their secret service code names. >> ever ready. it's very high energy, donald. >> mr. trump? >> humble. >> so a lot of good moments last night. we also had the opportunity to
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speak exclusively to governor jeb bush shortly after the debate. he won't be back in front of the cameras again until late this evening. he told me a lot of thanksgivin i asked about his sagging poll numbers, he said i know i have to go out and earn this, there are going to be ups and downs. and when we asked questions about his low energy? >> look, i'm not a low energy person at all. the difference is the volume of your voice is not a measurement of leadership, it's not a measurement of anything. my energy goes on behalf of the people that i care about. the american people right now are suffering, people are stuck in poverty, the middle class has declining disposable income and my energy is focused on creating policies to let them rise up. and i was excited about the prospects of coming into this debate and i think i did a fine job. >> one other thing that was interesting in our conversation with jeb bush is that he appeared to be walking back in
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some way his comment when asked about what woman he would want to put on a $10 bill. of course he said margaret thatcher, who you may be aware is not an american. he was getting a lot of criticism. when we spoke he didn't think that was the most relevant thing. he said his desire was to put more $10 bills on americans' pocket. he said he would put the idea up on the internet and let americans decide for themselves. >> peter alexander at 6:05 in the morning, which means you did not sleep at all, my friend. thank you for being with me. >> that's true. >> you heard what carly fiorina had to say on those comments on her looks and keeping with his tone last night, donald trump had nothing but nice things to say about her when he called into "morning joe" earlier for an exclusive interview. >> i think that carly did well but joe was sort of saying -- >> no, it was me. >> and you, but carly did well, too, but i isn't see it as
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standout as you did but maybe it's a different perspective. and i was getting hit 15 different ways. everything i ever said about a woman, i got hit on that, no doubt about that. >> and thank you to my guests for being with me. matt, who do you think won last night? >> i think carly fiorina had a very good night and she wasn't even on the main debate stage in the first debate. she's sort of rapidly rising and we'll see and hear more from her in the next week or so. jeb bush had some good moments as well and trump sort of held his own. i don't think either of those damaged themselves that much. >> let's talk about carly fiorina. is she someone you think the democrats are looking at with maybe some concern that they may have not had weeks or months ago? >> well, as he just mentioned,
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she is rising incredibly fast and she's talking about women in a way that is engaging and is state forward. i think the republicans and the democrats are surprised by her quick rise. she didn't do so well when she was running against senator boxer in california. >> that's true, and yet she does have a very specific plan. she talked specifics. probably in very real terms to contrast with how donald trump explains his policy. >> what she was saying unfortunately there's -- if you go right now and you read a lot of the fact checking, it wasn't necessarily accurate, but she was saying it with strength and she was saying it with determination and she was going toe to toe with donald trump. the other candidates on that stage were afraid to go toe to
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toe with donald trump. >> nicole wallace said jeb bush looked presidential last night but what are republican voters looking for this time around? >> i think they wanted to see some energy from jeb bush. trump has struck a nerve in the electorate and with jeb bush himself by calling him low energy. i think jeb bush had a couple of good moments last night that his campaign was excited about. he faded at times, too. it was three hours long so everybody had moments where they were sort of fading. so, you know, it will be interesting to see if kweb gets any sort of bounce. i think he needed to stem the negative news coming out of his campaign and i think he did an okay job at that. >> theresa, let's listen to a bit of marco rubio. >> despite the fact that we are the most generous country in the history of the world in allowing people to come here legally, we
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have people still coming illegally. we have an immigration system that doesn't work. we cannot deal with all three of these problems in one massive piece of legislation. i learned that. we tried it that way. >> what do you think immigration activists is the reasonable way forward? rubio and jeb bush seem to be in a little small area there as well as immigration compared to all the other candidates. >> if you actually saw the debate before, the only one speaking reasonably was lindsay graham. we have to figure out how to fix the broken system. they're trying to figure out how to thread a needle where donald trump has awoke i don't know a
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very extreme base of immigrant supporters and they have to make sure that base is united to ensure they get out in front of of in the primary. you have the republican establishment shaking their head at donald trump saying we can't have this anti-emigrant rhetoric. this same issue has been being discussed since the last presidential election and the last 25 years. >> theresa, how interesting we get to speak in english and in spanish on telemundo. >> developing now, a tsunami advisory is in effect right now for parts of the california coast and hawaii following a
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massive earthquake in chile, in south america. let's go first to the u.s. west coast. this is a live look at the coast in long beach, california. things look pretty peaceful right now. it's just after 6:00 a.m. local time, coming up on 6:11. in chile, look at this, at least eight people are dead, one missing after the magnitude 8.3 quake struck last night. it hit about 150 miles south of the capital. the initial quake sent people running into the streets, followed by several strong aftershocks. more than 1 million people were evacuated from their homes. tens of thousands of people are now without power. let me check in with nbc meteorologist bill karins. bill, i was in chile in 2010 in
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february, there was an 8.8 earthquake, about 800 people died. the chilean people and infrastructure is very well versed in earthquakes. >> there's a subduction fault is right there. this is biggest earthquake we've had on our planet this year. the shallow ones are the ones we're typically concerned with, those are the ones that can produce the biggest tsunami. the timing of the tsunami wave on this one has put it over california and about right now arriving in the hawaiian islands. thankfully the energy produced to this one didn't go wide spread. a couple.
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right now we're between hour 12 and hour 15. this is where the tsunami waves are located. they've reported one-foot water rises on the coast of california. there is a tsunami advisory issued. sometimes it can be more dramatic than one foot. they're telling people to stay off the beaches in l.a., worried about a rip current type scenario and currents people aren't used to. for an 8.3, we thought this would be a lot worse. eight people have died. as far as the tsunami goes, it hasn't been all that bad. >> gabe gutierrez joins me. what's the scene there this morning? >> hi. the airport had been closed for
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a very short time yesterday right after the earthquake but reopened shortly thereafter. you know, as you've been mentioning, at a magnitude 8.3, this was the strongest earthquake on the planet this year. so some of the coastal towns went into a panic. right now at least eight people are confirmed dead, though the full scope of the damage is being assessed. communication is spotty in some of the coastal cities. the earthquake triggered that assume tsunami alert for the entire coast and some of the coasts saw 15 feet above tide. a city about four and a half hours north, northwest of santiago, that was the area where that large wave was seen, some areas saw around ten-feet waves or so. since the initial jolt there were several strong aftershocks throughout much of the country.
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chile is used to earthquakes, though this one was extremely large. there was one in 2010 that was 8.8. a lot of people thought this might be much worse, though the full scope of the damage is still being assessed and at least eight people have lost their lives. >> and, gabe, it's important what you're saying, they're still going into areas that they haven't reached. they might find some very difficult situations. a lot of the people who died in the 2010 earthquake were affected by the union amies. -- tsunamis.
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>> coming up, the migrant crisis in europe shifts from hungary to croatia as thousands try to find a new way north. richard engel is in hungary. now that we know it wasn't vladimir putin, what's going on? there may be a hoax involved, not with elton john but with some other people. we're going to clear that up in a minute. building aircraft, the likes of which the world has never seen. this is what we do. ♪ that's the value of performance. northrop grumman. ♪
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president obama made his pitch in a new video released just a short time ago. >> it's not about changing who you are, it's about adding a new chapter to your journey as an american citizen and to our journey as a nation of immigrants. it's an important step for you and an important step for our nation. join us. together we can make america stand even stronger. >> and with me now to explain, director of the white house domestic council. good to see you. >> good morning. >> in is related to the president's executive actions. tell me how it's going to work. >> so the president announced his executive actions last november and he created a task force on new americans, i had the privilege of co-chairing that task force. as you mentioned, there's about 8.8 million legal permanent residents eligible for
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citizenship and this video, this effort, this overall campaign is aimed at encouraging them and theping them so there are some tools, like an online line practice citizens test. >> before some people's heads blow up, let's be clear again. i want you to underline what you said at the beginning of this conversation. this is for nearly 9 million people who are legal residents of the united states of america. can we just repeat that just because, you know, maybe the explosion in the head sometimes, you don't hear thing right. >> these are the people who are legal immigrants, i've -- some people are scared of taking the
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exam. some people may not know what steps you need to take to become a naturalized is he people had you may not know are immigrants who are going to be telling their stories and encouraging others to take this important step. this is about all of us as a nation of immigrants. >> is this also about getting more voters into the democratic party for sfu. >> it not really. this is something that the president asked us to focus on way back in november when he did his executive actions. we're a nation of i grants. this are people from all of we are unique on the planet as a place that welcomes people that says no matter who you are, no
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matter if you have funny letters in your last name, you're one of us. this is called standing stronger and so, you know, for someone like you and we talked about th this. >> whenever whenever i speak at a naturalization ceremony, i have trouble getting through it because it's so moving and everyone in the audience starts to feel like my parents. it reminds me of their story and it reminds me of the american story and it's worth doing what
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i can do and doing what my parents did. >> can you get more information how? >> you can get information at white m are can find information in both of those places and we're encouraging folks to be part of this process. you can actually volunteer. that's an effort of this as well. talk about having a weird last night with a weird letter. >> exactly. >> cecilia, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. >> coming up, we'll hear from the muslim teen-ager from texas who was put in handcuffs from school, arrested after having a
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back when police used tear gas and attacked migrants with batons. nearly two dozen people were arrested. richard engel is in hun bray not the greig brants are continued it -- they have made their way into europe and they are trying to find new routes. and each day they are trying new ways to get in and finding different legal okay tchls and i'm in front of a courthouse. and some people who have been bought to this courthouse before they were aother people have been trying to apply for asylum in this. almost all of the asylum claims
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have been respect pb they don't know what's going to happen if they make it through slovenia. they don't know what will happen in austria. the legal boundaries seem to be getting tighter each day and there are no boundaries. they feel they're in a state of pralis, that's why we've seen some violent crashes and moore again, at the hung guerin border. many different places where they're trying to advance and finding physical and legal obstacles in their way. >> thank you very much for that live report. a hearing today for taliban beau
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bo borg. the taliban released the 29-year-old last year in exchange for five commanders held at beibei. and the mystery. -- now we know a russian sprangster may have been behind this. the comedy duo released audio of what they say is the call with dmitri translating for putin. >> he said he is to make everything you inves in.
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>> but he's calling me and that i'm speaking to him, it's a great privilege to be able to speak to one of the most influential people in the withhold world. it's amazing. >> well, john who has criticized what he calls putin's ridiculous record on gay rights did not respond to a question for comments. >> it's a busy day for hillary clinton, who returns today to the first in the nation primary state of new hampshire. she'll be making two stops with the first one, talk about substance abuse. last night clinton made her first 2016 late night appearance. he asked her about the e-mail controversy that has doing you're just like typing in all caps? is it embarrassing? is it like my mom where everything is in the subject line? zit kind of a variation on that. and there are thousands of them that are already out there. most people have gotten bored
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after reading ten or 12 because they're boring. >> joined this morning by et two things on the fallon appearance. number one, everyone you talked to who has worked with hillary clinton, says she kind an incredibly warm person. it was a problem for her in 2008 and i think it's a problem for her now. so i think she wanted to go on and showcase that side of her. she looked warm, come forable and she cracked a few jokes. the other thing it can do for her is break through about the e-mails. i think she'd prefer to be talking about her policy by
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threw see it's just down 20 points as we speak the debate wasn't the only hot topic on social media. the last 4 hours a 14-year-old in texas receiving support pr around the world after his lunch luchb instead. muhammed was released without charge. police and skill districts are defending their decision, saying they've done everything in an abundance of caution. chris hayes spoke exclusively to ahmed last night about what happened. >> what did those teachers say when you showed them your clock? >> the first teacher, he was impressed but he advised me not to show any other people. >> he told up not to show any other people? >> yes. >> do you think he said that.
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>> he told me it looks like a bomb. >> with me now to talk about all this is "daily beast" columnist. dino, how are you? >> i'm fine. ahmed huhallah is doing fine, too. >> i felt like i was a criminal. i felt like i was a terrorist. >> so, dino, what are your thoughts about all of this? >> well, we can't look at this in a vacuum. i want people to understand in texas and especially in irving, this year, there's been stoking of anti-se sensen sensent -- an
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sentiment. the idea to arrest a 14-year-old student who brings a clock to school, deprived him of being with his parents, he asked for his father, he said no. they pressured him until he was in tears. i think it's ridiculous. >> and in texas there was a shooting and a killing that people came to that meeting intend tent on killing people. so here's my question. there's got to be a balance. for a moment, let's put aside that he's a muslim. it's a big deal, we can't but just for a moment, let's put it aside. shouldn't school officials be concerned about anything that could be seen in this climate we're living in that could cause
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concern for other students? >> absolutely. if you're concerned, take it away, have it analyze it, test it. you don't interrogate a kid with five police officers without his parents. the young man is an american citizens. he told them i'm an american citizens, i don't want to. they could have checked this out, let him go when they found out it wasn't a clock. they could have just tested it. congratulations on building a working clock. it's pretty cool. >> and you're if he was swedish,
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>> we have to acknowledge this is a total failure. it's just a failure. and i wish it weren't so but that's the fact. >> i'm joined by congresswom congresswomcongresswoma sanchez. i understand four or five have been trained. >> this whole issue that somehow
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we are going to train up the locals -- in tickets difficult in syria because our fight is against isis but the syrian rebels to a large extent are interested in bringing down assad, rather than necessarily going over isis. some of them in order to survive go back and forth between the two groups. this is the problem that we have, when we vet and figure out who is really going to go after isis versus this whole assad issue going on, the group gets narrower and narrower because we don't want to train these people to be fighting assad, rather than our primary concern, which is to go after isis. so this is one of the reasons why just the vetting process has been incredible and we really haven't been able to get the people into the training group and then once we train them, they're not necessarily again doing what it is that we need, what our fight is against isis. and so i always thought that
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this was more or less a pretty failed policy. >> so what do you suggest we could do, the united states administration, to maybe change this equation? >> what people don't realize is we have failed states on our hands. libya is in crisis, egypt is feeling pressure there. we have syria with assad but, you know, in a possibility that if that crumbled, we would have another failed and a large failed state on our hands. we have iraq, which of course has been in turmoil and from my standpoint is pretty much a failed state. we cannot afford at this point, i think what the administration is thinking, our generals are thinking, we have one more failed state on our hand and the whole place breaks apart. so the reality is that i don't
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think that our military and our president are really looking at the assad, the downfall of assad right now, they are trying to figure out how to get this isis situation done, you know, that's gone out of control. where can we gain some ground? well we shall have to look traditionally at who has really been our ally? i would say that's been the kurds in northern iraq. but we have failed to give them the weapons that they need to go in and take care of the job of going after isis. they've been fighting, fighting on our side when we first went into iraq, they showed our troops how to fight up in that terrain, et cetera, and now for a couple of years now barzani, their leader, has been telling me, loretta, why aren't you helping us to get rid of this in our nation? turkey doesn't want us to arm the kurds because they're afraid it's going to overflowed into
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turkey also. if you look at what barzani has been doing, he has not been in conjunction with them. this is one >> congresswoman loretta sanchez, always a pleasure to see you. thanks for being with me. >> thank you. a live look right now at the new york stock exchange. down ten points. we're closely watching the markets throughout the day here as we wait to see if the fed will raise interest rates. we'll find out this afternoon and we're going to talk about that next right here on "the rundown."
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from yellen today? >> i expect that the federal reserve will decide not to raise interest rates. i'd say that the probability there is somewhere around 30% that they would go up a quarter of a point. now, that happens to also be the expectation of market watchers. we don't know which way they'll land, but based on lots of signals from the economy that don't really suggest we have a problem with the kind of price pressures or wage pressures that a federate hike would push against, i would say the conventional wisdom is that they'll probably hold to raise it the next meeting or the one after that. >> and jerry, what's the impact of an interest rate hike for the average american? >> well, this is a benchmark interest rate for the whole economy. so it shows up in credit card rates. it shows up in auto loan rates, in student loan and mortgage rates. so it really bleeds through all of the important interest rates in the economy. however, before people start getting very upset about this possible rate hike, remember,
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what they're talking about right now is a quarter of a percentage point. economists call that 25 basis points. that's not a big deal, but it certainly does push in the direction of making -- borrowing a bit more expensive. remember, the target here is to slow down economic growth a bit when you're worried about it overheating. now, since folks like me don't really see overheating as a problem, we think that a preemptive rate hike right now would probably be ill-advised. >> so if they don't do it this time and you're saying maybe the time after that, when would that be? >> well, their next meeting is in late october. that's not one of the -- every other meeting they have a press conference. today they have a press conference. so people tend to think they're going to raise when they have a press conference. in october, they don't. but then the meeting after that is december. so most people think if it doesn't go up today, probably october or december. depending on the data flow. >> jerry bernstein, thank you. good seeing you. appreciate it. coming up, we have two major guests joining me in the next hour. so far we've seen two republican
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and good morning once again. i'm jose diaz-balart. i want to begin with breaking news. a hearing is going to begin in san antonio, texas, to determine whether bowe bergdahl will be charged. military prosecutors will lay out their case, possibly revealing more details about why he abandoned his unit. there's also a political layer to all of this. remember, the obama administration took a lot of heat for the prisoner swap that paved the way for bergdahl's
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release from the taliban last year. the 29-year-old faces a charge of desertion which carries a possible five-year sentence as well as a rare count that alleges bergdahl endangered the lives of fellow soldiers who went out looking for him. that charge could result in life in prison. i'm going to bring you the very latest on this hearing which is currently under way as soon as we get it. but now to 2016 race and if you're looking for a fireworks yesterday, the republican debate did not disappoint. the 11 top candidates gathered at the ronald reagan presidential library for their second face-off. this morning, every headline is praising carly fiorina for another breakout performance. she turned the tables on donald trump after that now infamous interview in "rolling stone." >> donald trump said the following about you. quote, look at that face. would anyone vote for that? can you imagine that, the face of our next president? mr. trump later said he was talking about your persona, not your appearance. please feel free to respond what
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you think about his persona. >> i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> well, one thing all the candidates had in common was trying to portray themselves as a washington outsider. >> i am a republican in new jersey. i wake up every morning as an outsider. >> i don't want to really get into describing who's a politician and who's not a politician. but i think the people have kind of made that decision for themselves already. >> people know that we need principle-centered leadership, a disrupter to go to washington, d.c. >> msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt was in simi valley before, during and now after the debate. kasie, good morning. what's your take on which candidate is waking up with a smile on their face this morning? >> reporter: good morning. i think by now we all know that fiorina stood out in this debate. i think in large part because
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she was able to criticize donald trump without looking small. that's something that many of her fellow republican candidates have struggled to do. she's managed to rise in the polls even as he's been going after her. and you saw the way she handled trump on stage last night. i also think that marco rubio is somebody who stayed up on that stage, flew a little bit under the radar, as everyone did in this three-hour -- nearly three-hour debate. but still when he had the chance to stand out, he really did. now, on the flip side of this, i think there are a couple people who came out a little bit worse for wear. mike huckabee's campaign is privately angered that he didn't get more time to talk up on stage. we didn't hear very much from him. and scott walker is somebody who really needed to turn in a really strong performance last night. his campaign has been floundering in iowa. he was the front-runner there. i had a chance to catch up with him in the spin room after the debate. and i asked him if he did what he needed to do. do you feel like you need to take any additional steps to get your campaign back to where it needs to be?
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do you they'd to shake up your staff? do you need to make any changes? >> the biggest thing for us is get back to basics. getting into iowa and the early states. we announced today 99 county chairs were going to be organized by the precincts. they're looking for a president who can shake things up, wreak some havoc in washington. my argument to those voters is if you want somebody to do that, pick someone who's done it before. >> reporter: so it's iowa or bust for you? >> i think we're putting all our eggs in a basket of iowa. we're committed to iowa, and we think that will help us make the case all throughout the country. >> reporter: so that's a pretty rare, direct admission from a candidate that of the political strategy that they're undertaking, and it's pretty early in this campaign to be saying that. it probably indicates that they're struggling a little bit on the financial front, and obviously they realize if they don't get through iowa, there's not going to be a long road for scott walker in this race. >> stay with me. i want to bring in david drucker. thank you for being with me. you heard scott walker. how are he and other candidates
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in his position able to go to donors and say i'm still trying to do good things with your money and your support. is that becoming more and more difficult? >> well, i think it's still early enough for a lot of these candidates to make the case that they have time to get their footing. they have time to make progress. and if you're strong organizationally and mike huckabee in particular is strong organizationally, you can show the history of iowa and new hampshire and even south carolina as late-breaking states and that it's still far too early to be writing anybody off, especially in a field that's this deep. and in many ways, this unsettled because although we've had sort of a consistent summer front-runner, the truth is everybody else is jumbled all in the middle, some higher end, some lower end. but there's not an argument yet that anybody's been totally kicked out of this thing. >> yeah. and ryan, carly fiorina obviously getting a lot of attention. and with that comes more scrutiny. do we know that her campaign is ready for that scrutiny is this? >> they are.
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you know, they took out an ad -- or the super pac took out an ad in "the new york times" defending her record at hp, which is going to be, you know, her time there is her big benefit. it shows her executive-level experience. it's also her biggest cross. hp did not perform well under her. it's still not performing terribly well. there are a lot of people at hp that are out there trashing her including people connected to the packard family. you know, and she ended up being fired from there and getting a golden parachute. the kind of war over her performance at hp is going to be extremely significant for her. the only thing i would say also in response to what david said, i think we can probably write off scott walker at this point. you know, he's had his moment. people kind of scrutinized him, and they've moved on from him. he has 99 county chairs. he'll still be somewhat of a player in iowa. but as kasie got him to admit,
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he's put all his eggs there, and it's going terribly for him. >> yeah, when all your eggs are in one basket, that basket better be effective, right? >> yes. yeah, exactly. those eggs are all over the place at this point. >> yeah. kasie, what did we learn from watching these 11 candidates other than it was three hours long? >> reporter: well, jose, i think we learned a couple things. i think a lot of the narratives that we were talking about going into this were frankly underscored. it was the candidates who are not necessarily traditional politicians who came out the better for this. i think that jeb bush's team feels like he had several strong moments, and they're playing well the day after, but the reality is it was still a little difficult on stage whereas carly fiorina and ben carson seemed to have in many ways a rapport are trump that really, i think, focused the spotlight on the fact that they are not, in fact, traditional politicians. i also think we learned that there's a little bit of fight left in chris christie. he's somebody who -- we saw the flashes of the old new jersey
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governor who really enjoys getting into it, enjoys mixing it up, and he's somebody who actually, you know, turned the conversation back to what he described as rell working people on a number of occasions. i think hitting in a way that was authentic to him, that same note that's driving these anti-establishment candidates. >> and then, david, you have on the issue, for example, of immigration, because mr. trump is such a loud voice and such a big presence and how he talked about immigration, you have just a handful of the other candidates that have a different opinion. and yet -- and yet that's not really coming through very well. >> well, look. when you have a guy like trump command so much media attention and, in fact, the more interesting things he said, the more media attention he gets, it's going to overshadow what actually in the republican party is a divide on immigration. so you've got people like trump, and then you've got people sort of just below trump that are not going to go as far as deportation but are never going to look at a path to legalization or citizenship, but
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interestingly enough, what we heard on stage from the other candidates is that it's not every republican has trump's opinion on immigration. and so over time, that's a case they can make. but also, it obviously depends on who's the front-runner three months from now, six months from now. who's the nominee? if trump's the nominee, then it's all about deportation, building walls, and rounding people up. if it's jeb bush, if it's ben carson, if it's john kasich, that's not going to be the case. and so the party still has time to work this out. but no doubt it has not been helpful for them to have the discussion on this level as opposed to border security and fixing what's wrong with the legal immigration system. >> brian, david and kasie, thank you for being with me this morning. appreciate it. >> thank you. i'll update you on a developing story out west. a tsunami advisory is in effect right now for parts of the california coast and hawaii after a major earthquake off the coast of chile in south america.
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we're keeping a very close eye on both california and hawaii right now. this is a live look off the coast of california's catalina island. it is 7:09 a.m. the tsunami advisory was issued after the massive 8.3 magnitude earthquake struck off the central coast of chile last night. and this is new video of the damage. take a look at this. at least eight people are dead. several coastal towns are reported flooding from small tsunamis triggered by the quake. at least 1 million people were evacuated from their homes, and many spent the night in the streets. let me bring in bill karins. bill, good morning. what exactly do we have to look at as far as california and
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released. it's very, you know, technical, and they have these expert geologists, and they're using all their equipment. that's how they come up with
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these maps. it is fascinating to see how the energy is released. down along the coast, you saw the video. there's still 100,000 people without power. eight people died. everyone else was kind of spared. when you're near that epicenter, there's a lot of recovery to be done. it looked like a mini hurricane the way it knocked some of those structures down off the coast. >> bill karins, thank you very much. we're going to continue to monitor the situation. updates as we get them right here on "the rundown." up next, while republicans have been fighting on the debate podium, democratic front-runner hillary clinton has been shifting her campaign strategy. we're going to discuss this with clinton supporter and former michigan governor jennifer granholm. first, clinton with "the tonight show's jimmy fallon" discussing the controversy that has dogged her campaign. >> are you just typing in all caps? is it embarrassing? >> a lot of misspellings.
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back to school in seattle, the paris train heros and deadly attacks in baghdad. let's zoom through today's top stories. back to school for the seattle public school district after a teachers strike delayed the start of the year. striking teachers reached a tentative labor deal with the school district following a five-day strike. the contract agreement will go before a full vote on sunday. and happening later this morning, the three american heroes who foiled an attack on a train headed from belgium to paris last month will visit the white house. college student anthony sadler, national guard specialist alex scarlotto and spencer stone will meet with president obama in the
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oval office. the three friends tackled a gunman on board a paris train in august while they were on vacation. two suicide attacks targeted police checkpoints in baghdad this morning. take a look at the video, killing at least 21 people. police say both attacks carried out by bombers on footwearing explosive vests. no group immediately claimed responsibility for the attacks which wore the hallmark of isis. a frightening sight when a passenger train slams into an empty school bus this germany this morning. the two-section bus got stuck on the tracks after making a sharp turn onto the crossing. the bus driver quickly evacuated all the students. take a look at that. wow! all 60 students and the driver got out before the collision. one person had minor injuries getting off the bus. hillary clinton will be back on the campaign trail in new hampshire today. her two planned stops come after making her appear toens ance on tonight show." she being thatled women's issues
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and even donald trump's hair. >> have you ever really touched it? >> he's only been like a hologram when he's here. no. no, i think it is real hair. >> yes. >> he's never let me touch it. >> do you want to touch mine? >> of course. it's real! it's real! >> i'm joined by former michigan governor jennifer granholm, senior strategist and adviser for correct the rapid, a rapid response team defending the secretary. good to see you, governor. thanks for being with me. >> good to see you, too, jose. i just love that. it was so much fun. >> that is a different side of her that i know the campaign has been trying to show because it's just not something we see very often. so do you think that this exchange is what the clinton campaign talks about showing her in a more spontaneous manner? >> yes, and she is such a warm
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human being. and i encourage anybody to go to the jimmy fallon youtube channel because you can see all three clips including the one where she's talking to jimmy fallon on the phone, and he's playing donald trump. so funny. and she's so relaxed. she has this wonderful, warm sort of maternal way toward jimmy fallon, talking about his child, talking about, you know, poking fun, obviously, at donald trump. it was just such a great evening. and that's really her. you want authentic candidate, go look at that youtube video. that really is her. that's the hillary clinton that those of us who know her love. >> and let me read you a tweet from former obama top adviser david axelrod. he said today's new york times story on hillary clinton read more like the onion. her detailed plan to show more authenticity and spontaneity. #justdoit. so how can you plan to be more
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spontaneous? >> yeah, i don't think was really thrilled with that story because you should just do it. and that's exactly what was demonstrated last night. you know, she does -- she has been getting out there. she's been leaning in, if you will, to the story about the e-mails, being really candid about it and showing herself in settings that are not so stilted like, you know, just serious kinds of standing on the stage. you know, having a one-on-one conversation so people can really get down to see who she is. and last night at this debate, speaking to you here in simi valley because i'm at the site of the republican debate, i think honestly, one of the real winners from last night's debate was hillary clinton. if you think about this, jose, there were two issues that the republicans obsessed about. one of them was planned parenthood and defunding the government. and that was mentioned about 28 times.
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and while the middle class and making sure that people's incomes grow, which she mentioned last night in that jimmy fallon interview, that was only mentioned three times. so a huge disproportionate focus on something like defunding planned parenthood and immigration, which i know you talked about earlier today. but here we are at the reagan library, and ronald reagan was in favor of amnesty and signed a bill that allowed 3 million immigrants to have amnesty. and then went and did an executive order after that that allowed another 100,000 to have amnesty. you know, if he were here, i think he would have been very upset with a lot of what he heard last night. >> so talking about the people that were actually on that stage, do you think anyone had a standout moment there? >> yeah. i mean, i do think carly fiorina's style was very, very strong. i do think that chris christie's intervention, when carly fiorina and donald trump had this tit
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for tat about who was the more successful or least successful ceo, when chris christie intervened and said, hey, i don't care about you -- you guys, talk about what the average voter, the construction worker there cares about. that was a really breakout moment, i think, for chris christie. >> governor granholm, thank you for being with me. it's always a pleasure to see you. appreciate your time. >> thanks so much, jose. appreciate it. >> take care. coming up, we're getting word out of a military hearing under way right now on whether army sergeant bowe bergdahl will face charges on desertion. let's look at the numbers right now. big day possibly, changes in the fed. look at that. it's, like, flat-lined. we're going to be waiting for what the fed says today, whether we'll see our first interest rate hike in nine years. more on this straight ahead on "the rundown." so you only pay for what's right for you, which saves money.
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following developments for you from wall street, and take a look at the stock market. i mean, it's down, what, 11 points. stocks are basically in a holding pattern as investors wait on this afternoon's big announcement on interest rates from the fed. cnbc's sue herera is here with a market rundown. sue, good morning. what's the thinking out of wall street? >> good morning. well, the thinking on wall street is that if the fed will hike interest rates, they would do it at this meeting probably by only a quarter of a basis point. the question thousand is whether or not that's baked into the market. a lot of people think it is, which is why we have kind of a steady tone on wall street today, maybe slightly lower. no one really knows, of course, what the fed's going to do. we will know at 2:00 p.m. eastern time. but ahead of that, traders are very hesitant to take big positions in this market. and that's why we have kind of a steady tone, but we'll see when 2:00 comes. be prepared for some volatility, jose. >> sue, thank you very much.
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indeed, we'll see what happens. coming up, we've heard from republicans duking it out in debates twice already. now one democratic candidate is calling for more debates with his rivals. former maryland governor martin o'malley joins me live next on "the rundown." >> it is party malpractice for the democratic party not to be holding our own debate. and i think the instinct in the party, at least in the tight echelon, the highest ranks of the party, was to circle the wagons around this year's inevitable front-runner and hope that everything will be okay. but it's a really bad way to go about winning a general election. to start a movement, or lead a country. it may not be obvious yet, but one of these kids is going to change the world. we just need to make sure she has what she needs. welcome to windows 10. the future starts now for all of us.
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more, many more debates than the dnc has scheduled. with me now is the former governor of maryland, martin o'malley. thanks for being with me. >> jose, thank you. good to be with you. >> thanks. didn't your campaign and others negotiate and agree to six debates in total? >> no. in fact, i told our chair, debbie wassermann shchultz, tha i that's right it was party malpractice to allow the republican debates to happen without us answering with our ideas and our candidates. i mean, look at the debate last night. something like over 20 million americans tuned in. the one before that, 24 million. and what do you hear from the democratic party? nothing. not until october 13th. it is unprecedented, jose, that the dnc chair would take upon herself the job of limiting debates in the democratic party. not a very democratic way to run the democratic party. and frankly there's a whole lot of members of the dnc that actually agree, as does bernie
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sanders and other candidates in this race. we should be putting our ideas out there and countering the hate that's coming towards new american immigrants from the other side. >> so governor, how would you feel if the dnc drops the exclusivity clause but holds firm on keeping the number of debates at six, for example? >> i think the exclusivity clause also should be dropped. that would be a step in the right direction. but look, it's enough for evil to succeed in this world for good people to say and to do nothing. and right now the democratic party is saying and doing nothing when it comes to pushing back against the sort of vitriol we're hearing from the republicans. i mean, last night i didn't see the debate. i read the accounts. these folks are running for the highest office in the land, and we're all pitching for the job of being your fence contractor. all this time spent on issues that have very little to do with the main issue on the table, which is how do we get wages to go up for more americans? how do we make our economy work for all americans? and that's what we have to offer as a party. on affordable college, expanded
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paid family leave. these are the things we need to be talking about to counteract the sort of falsehoods and bad economic policies their party's putting out. so i'm looking forward to the debates. but look, telling new hampshire they can only have one before new hampshire, telling iowa only one date before iowa? that's never happened before. and i think people find it insulting. it's beneath the party. >> so governor, let's just say that, you know, you have the opportunity to have more debates. how are you different? what are you bringing to the table that maybe hillary clinton, bernie sanders aren't? >> i have this to offer. i have not only put out bold progressive policy papers on where our country needs to go, but i'm the only candidate in this race with 15 years of executive experience. actually getting these things done. raising the minimum wage in my state. passing comprehensive gun safety
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legislation, passing the dream act, passing marriage equality, doing the things that actually made college more affordable like freezing college tuition four years in a row. no other state did that. so i get things done. i have an executive's background, and i've laid out bold progressive proposals for how we rebuild the american dream we share so that all of us who work hard are able to actually get ahead in this american economic of opportunity again. >> governor, hillary clinton has said that if she is president, she will go further on executive actions, on immigration than even the president has been able to do, even though the white house has made it clear that this is as far as he goes. and as a matter of fact, he can go. and it's locked up in the courts. how would you deal with this problem differently? >> well, i actually called -- i made a commitment to go further on executive action as president months before secretary clinton came around to that position. which is also a big difference in this race. look, i understand that leadership is about forging a new consensus. it's not about following public
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opinion polls. it's about leading and forging a new consensus. so i have made a commitment to extend executive action to as many people as we possibly can. i think it's wrong for our country, frankly, to break up families without any public safety purpose whatsoever. i would bring an end to the shameful policies of for-profit prisons and the awful spectacle that we have now of women and children being penned up in these detention camps. our enduring symbol as a nation is the statue of liberty, not barbed wire fences. and i think that if we call upon the american people to take actions consistent with our principles, i think we can forge a new consensus for even comprehensive immigration reform. >> and you think you could do that better or differently than hillary clinton could? >> i do because i speak to a new generation of leaders, jose. look, we cannot be this disappointed with the gridlock in our national politics and how
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our national economy is not working very well for a majority of us. and think that a resort to old names is somehow going to move us forward. especially in our party, we look to the future. and we understand that forging a new consensus also requires new leadership. new leadership that speaks to where our country's going. if you talk to young americans under 30, very happy and optimistic note you'll find is that there are very few of them that want to bash new american immigrants like that crowd at the republican debate last night. our country's headed to a much more compassionate and sensible and connected place. as a party, we need to lead and advance the arrival of that day. >> governor martin o'malley, thank you for being with me. it's always a pleasure. >> jose, thank you. i want to turn back to the hearing for army sergeant bowe bergdahl. it will be able to determine whether he should face a military court-martial for leaving his post in afghanistan in 2009 which led to his capture by the taliban. our charles hadlock is there.
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good morning. what do we know? >> reporter: good morning. sergeant bergdahl is in the courtroom this morning for the first time for his court-martial hearing proceedings. bergdahl is charged with desertion and misbehavior before the enemy. bergdahl disappeared, you may recall, back in 2009 from his army post in afghanistan just a short distance away from the pakistan border. he was captured by the taliban and held for five years until his release in a prisoner exchange last year. the army's hearing officer will decide if there's enough evidence to move forward for a court-martial proceeding. the army prosecutors will try to argue that bergdahl deserted his post and put fellow soldiers at risk as they tried to find him. in fact, one soldier was seriously wounded in a rescue attempt that failed in the weeks and years after his initial capture by the taliban. bergdahl's attorneys have asked that the court release
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transcripts of the interrogation, the army did, with bergdahl immediately after his release. it's unclear how that would help their plan, but bergdahl could face up to life in prison if he is, indeed, court-martialed. jose, back to you. >> charles hadlock, thank you very much. now back to the mass migration and america's attempts to try and ease the burden on european and middle eastern nations taking in hundreds of thousands of asylum seekers. but governments there are clamping down. this is new video from croatia that shows migrants being blocked by police as they try to get to a train station. and for those that hope to make it all the way to the united states. the odds are pretty slim. right now the number of people the u.s. is willing to take in is 70,000. less than 10% of the number expected to seek asylum in germany, a country a quarter of the size of the united states. secretary of state john kerry indicated the u.s. is planning to let more people in. >> we're also considering ways that we can increase overall refugee resettlement numbers. we will likely take additional steps in the next days.
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>> chris jansing is nbc's senior white house correspondent and joins us from the white house. chris, great seeing you. >> reporter: you, too. >> what has the united states done so far on this crisis, and what can they do in the future? >> reporter: well, the first thing they'll tell you, jose, is they've spent $4 billion putting it toward working for those refugees who are coming out of countries in syria, in particular. having said that you know from what you just heard from john kerry that what they're going to do in the new fiscal year starting october 1st is just a work in progress. you mentioned the number 70,000. that's the number overall all around the world, of those 10,000 are slated to come from syria. but two days ago in the oval office, the president indicated that it's clear this problem just keeps worsening. and so they are looking, obviously, to find ways to make that number greater. now, it's a complicated process. i should tell you i've been to briefings on how this works. there's a big security
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background checks that have to go on for anybody who gets cleared to come and resettle in the united states. there are health screenings that have to go on. there's a lot of coordination that has to go on with the agencies here in the united states that actually, then, resettle them once they get here. and they all have to go through some sort of a cultural classes so that they can feel that they have a better chance of coming here. i can tell you i spent some time earlier this week with a family from syria who was resettled in phoenix, arizona, when they were asked where they might want to come, they have no family here, no friends here. the parents don't speak english. and they said just pick for us. they didn't know what phoenix, arizona, was. they just needed to flee a situation that was dangerous for them and for their children. and so the final question is, how many people can they bring in that they can deal with logistically with all those issues that i just mentioned? and what will it cost? because it looks as though congress, then, if they get a significantly higher number, would have to come in and say,
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we're willing to foot the bill for this. and as we've talked about before, jose, there's some concerns particularly on the republican side about whether those security screenings are tough enough and whether or not there's a possibility that terrorists and isis, in particular, could come in. but the white house looking very closely at this and believe that they have to set the bar and set the example for european countries to do more as well. jose? >> chris jansing at the white house, thanks. this morning the survivor of that horrific shooting on live tv is sharing more details about what happened. vickie gardner was being interviewed when shots were fired, killing parker and her photographer, adam ward. the shooting was done by a former employee. parker and ward's local tv station. gardner was the only one who survived it. here's part of what she said. >> adam went down. all of the fire was happened to be at face level.
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alison had moved off in a different direction. and i just felt that the very best thing was just to drop, just to pretend as though i had been hit and just drop and go into fetal position of which, of course, it was somewhat quiet. he did whatever it was that he did that i couldn't see because of my position. and then he came back just, i guess, to be sure and shot me in the back. >> gardner lost a kidney in the shooting. her husband says he's planning a tribute for parker and ward next year. up next, a story lighting up social media, prompting an invite to the white house. 14-year-old texas student ahmed mohamed briefly detained after bringing a homemade clock to school to show an engineering teacher. they thought it was a bomb for some reason. we're live in irving, texas, for the latest on both sides of the story.
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another story that's received worldwide attention thanks to social media, 14-year-old aspiring engineer from texas arrested after his teacher thought a homemade clock he brought to school looked like a bomb. the #istandwithahmed made him an overnight media sensation and also got the attention of pretty notable people and companies. nbc's janet shamlian is in irving, texas, with more. janet, good morning. >> reporter: good morning to you. he has taken the internet by storm. a presidential invite to the white house. mark zuckerberg says come on over to facebook. twitter has invited him to an internship there, all for a kid who on monday was in handcuffs at this school. even last night, he got a mention on the presidential debate. this morning ahmed mohamed is very likely the most famous 14-year-old in the country. >> i'm the person who built the clock and got in a lot of trouble for it.
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>> reporter: handcuffed by police, suspended from school all because some teachers thought the clock looked more like a bomb. ahmed believes he knows why. >> they've never seen the inside of an actual clock. >> reporter: it's setting the media ablaze. the #istandwithahmed clocking more than a million responses. some posing with clocks. do i look dangerous yet? scientists. the jet propulsion laboratory would welcome ahmed with open arms. the founder of facebook. the future belongs to people like ahmed. even a presidential posting. cool clock, ahmed. want to bring it to the white house? >> are you going to the white house, my friend? >> yes. >> reporter: and at wednesday night's presidential debate. >> i don't think a 14-year-old should ever be arrested for bringing a clock to school. >> reporter: ahmed says he believes his ethnicity and name played a role in what happened. the ninth grader would like appearan apology from the school but also says he's looking for a new one. >> this school is a monthostile
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environment for me. >> reporter: police say the only reason the teen was arrested becauwas because the device looked suspicious. >> reporter: as for ahmed, he's having a good time with his newfound fame and says he's just getting started. >> i have 13 other inventions, and one of those inventions might change the world, and the other two might make a big difference. >> reporter: so macarthur high school has suspended him. he is still suspended till tomorrow, but he's not expected to return to classes here. at a press conference last night at his home, he said that he's going to be looking for another high school to attend because he just feels like it would not be a good fit after what happened in the hallways here, essentially went viral all over the world. jose, back to you. >> janet shamlian, thank you very much. now to a developing story. a tsunami advisory remains in effect for parts of the california coast and hawaii after an intense earthquake jolted chile in south america. this is new video of the damage in some of the coastal
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communities there. we just got an update on the death toll. ten people confirmed dead. gabe gutierrez joins me live on the phone from santiago. gabe, what's the latest? >> reporter: hey there, jose. you're right, the death toll just climbed to ten people. it was at eight about an hour ago. they're still assessing the damage here in chile. we're here at santiago's airport, and things are back to normal here, but those coastal cities were hard hit at magnitude 8.3. this was the strongest earthquake on the planet. so far this year. and about a million people were evacuated, fearing a tsunami. parts of the coast saw 15-foot waves. now, the quake was centered off the coast about 175 miles or so from chile's capital city, santiago, where buildings were seen swaying back and forth. now, the tsunami alert has expired here in chile. but as you mentioned, there were advisories in effect for hawaii and southern california where much smaller waves were expected. and since the initial quake, there were several strong aftershocks here.
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but as you know, jose, chile is a country that is prone to earthquakes. the largest one ever recorded on earth happened here in 1960, a magnitude 9.5. jose? >> gabe gutierrez in santiago, thank you very much. up next, gop candidates disagreeing on major foreign policy issues at the debate. we're going to look at whether that will help or hurt the eventual nominee next. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head cups your teeth to break up plaque, and rotates to sweep it away. and oral-b delivers a clinically proven superior clean vs. sonicare diamond clean. my mouth feels super clean. oral-b. know you're getting a superior clean. i'm never going back to a manual brush. ♪ it's the final countdown! ♪ ♪ the final countdown!
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turning back to the republican presidential debate, voters who were hoping to pin down the party's position on something like the iran nuclear deal were probably left, well, scratching their heads a bit. here's a sampling of what the candidates had to say on that issue. >> i was one of the first ones to call for terminating the bad deal with iran on day one. >> should we continue to talk with iran? yes. should we cut up the agreement immediately? that's absurd. >> to give them this agreement that the president treats like the magna carta, that the iranians treat it like it's toilet paper. >> i also want to respond to several of the folks up here who
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said we should trust this iranian deal and see if the iranians will comply. anyone who's paying attention to what khomeini says knows that they will not comply. >> let me suggest to you we believe that we operate better in the world when our allies work with us. >> there's one thing that all of them agree on, which is that the iran deal is bad. but david winston is a republican strategist and president of the winston group. he joins me this morning. david, great seeing you. >> good morning. glad to be here. >> all of these different opinions about the iran deal with the underlying issue being that they all disagree with it, is this a good thing or a bad thing when there's no consistent, you know, policy from all the different republicans? >> no, i mean, i think what you're saying, there was agreement that they thought the iran deal was bad, but what you do once it's in place. what's the best way to deal with it? you see a difference of opinion, and i think that's helpful in terms of the public, the republican electorate sort of working through, okay, who's the person who best understands how to deal with this situation as
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president of the united states. and so i think it gave an opportunity for the candidates to sort of distinguish themselves in an interesting way. >> it was a three-hour-long -- >> yes, it was. >> -- debate. there were a lot of candidates you didn't see or hear from them. do you think there were standout moments? >> yeah, there were. to your first point, it was a long debate. fiorina i think is generally, and listening to folks afterwards, did well and even in terms of a lot of the individual campaign operatives, there was a sense that she did really quite well. she had a tough thing going into this. she had these high expectations. she not only met them, she exceeded them which i think will help her significantly. but the other thing i think for the rest of the field, except for trump, i think trump had an off night, but i think everybody else had a chance, although to your point, you know, might be 40 minutes before you heard from one of them in terms of time, but i think they all did quite well in terms of being able to get to certain things. one problem with this debate was the way the moderator trying to set this up as sort of a
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rhetorical food fight and to give you a sense for every three questions asked about either a candidate's electability or another candidate, there was only one question asked to the economy, and i thought that was unfortunate. >> and the other thing, david, is that when you do look for a food fight, as that being your program highlight, then, you know, it's more difficult to pinpoint exactly where these candidates stand on specific issues and get some depth from any of them. >> yeah. and that's what i thought the weakness of last night was. i think you had a chance to walk the candidates go back and forth, but let's go back to the economy. only one out of ten questions dealt with the economy, which is clearly the overwhelming issue. and did anybody walking away from that debate have a sense that the positions those candidates had, and i think unfortunately they didn't. >> david, thank you for being with me. >> u this. >> that wraps up our time. i'll see you team.
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the morning after. the establishment strike back at donald trump in the second major gop debate. >> i didn't want to -- excuse me. one second. >> no. the simple fact is, donald -- >> more energy tonight. i like that. >> plus, carly fiorina's take on her much talked-about performance. >> i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> and why trump says he felt bad for the other candidates. we'll break down the winners and losers. plus, from handcuffs to hero. the texas teen arrested for bringing a homemade clock to school is still suspended. the big question is why? this as the student speaks out as he gets invitations from the white house and facebook. plus, in a few hours, the fed will announce a major decision on interest rates, affecting everything from your savings accounto


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