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but we appreciate you joining us here and chuck will be up next with more from his interview with hillary clinton. >> it's monday, its the first one-on-one in two years for president obama and vladimir putin president the tension is high and the topic is important, it's syria. nothing is impossible. after all, today's the day nasa found water on mars. it's mtp daily and it starts right now. ♪ from weekly to daily, welcome to our first show on a busy day in national and international politics. we're in new york today for a big week at the u.n., but we'll usually be in washington for mtb
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daily. mtp is how many of us here have shorthanded or sunday show and always referred to "meet the press" and so we made it part of our new name. let's kick things off by adding to the press box, andrea mitchell with all the news from today's u.n. action, hallie jackson, and marco rubio's campaign happening in florida and katy tur is on the the trump tower where the front-runner unveiled a new tax plan. but we begin with what's happening at the united nations and perhaps behind the scenes where in just a few minutes, president obama and putin will meet face to face for the first time in two years. the two world leaders are set to engage in a discussion with one critical conflict -- syria. and the meeting comes just off the heels of each leader's tough talk to the united nations. >> the united states is prepared to work with any nation, including russia and iran to
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resolve the conflict. but we must recognize that there cannot be, after so much bloodshed, so much carnage, a return to the prewar status quo. >> on the basis of international law, we must join efforts to address the problems that all of us are facing and create a generally broad international coalition against terrorism. similar to the anti-hitler coalition, it could unite a broad range of forces that resolutely exist who are just like the nazis, so hateful of human kind. >> okay, he's comparing it to world war ii, does that mean he's stalin here to obama's fdr? we'll leave the stalin parallels for others to discuss. but they both wanted to flex a muscle in front of the u.n. today. what's going to happen behind the scenes? >> well, behind the scenes, the
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talk is going to be very blunt. we talk about frank talk and that's diplomatic talk for frank and earnest. this is blunt, this is angry, and they say the president is not going to be shy at this hour. what he is going to say to him, look what you've done in ukraine, look what you've supported in syria. but frankly, the putin maneuvers, going on "60 minutes," reaching a large audience, announcing new initiatives, has really caught the white house with their pants down. >> i want to run through president obama's scenarios and frankly they probably look more like errors than anything else when it comes to syria. it all began when he drew a red line. i think we have that tape. let's play that. >> we have been very clear to the assad regime, but also to other players on the ground that a red line for us is, we start
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seeing a whole bunch of chemical weapons moving around or being used. that would change my equation. >> literally, almost a year, they prove he used chemical weapons and just like it looked like he was about to do something, putin comes in and disrupts his strategy. and that's what's happening here. >> it is. the red lines have been crossed. we've spent half a billion dollars and armed perhaps a handful of rebel fighters. >> four or five. that report was unbelievable, the amount of people that we've been able to train. not 400 or 500, which would have been a pitiful, four or five. >> one hand. >> yes. >> and then you have congress reporting a bipartisan report by congress tomorrow that they have recruited more fighters than we have killed. so our air war is not succeeding and more americans are being brought in, 250. they've more than doubled the number of american jihadis. >> very quickly, are we going to change our policy? the president had a policy,
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assad must go. is that policy going to change in the next couple of months? >> that red line is looking a little pinkish right now, fading. they will begin to say, well, he can stay, as we try to negotiate an exit strategy. and the exit strategy will take years and years and putin will keep propping him up. >> it's interesting the president still said he wanted assad to go, but it was different language. >> slightly softer. >> i know you've have to do nightly news, we'll see you in 90 minutes there. thank you for that. we'll keep an on raul castro. busy day. thank you. >> thank you. >> you're my right hand. to the campaign trail, marco rubio is campaigning at the villages, the adult senior community, it's big in the central part of the state. he's now one of the big movers in our new nbc/"wall street journal" poll, really the only candidate sitting in
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double-digits. all three outsiders, trump, carson, and fiorina, in double-digits. the only other double-digit guy is rubio. what's interesting right now, the front-runner right now, donald trump and rubio, are in a back and forth with rubio going after trump this morning and trump firing back this afternoon. take a look. >> he had a really bad debate performance last week. he's not well informed on the issues. so i think he's been exposed a little bit over the last seven days. and he's a very touchy and insecure guy. >> senator rubio is a lightweight, we understand that. he wouldn't be able to do this. he wouldn't know a trade deal from other deal. guys like rubio, he desperately needs money. ask the car dealer in florida. ask the people that support him. >> let's go down to hallie jackson in florida at the villages. and what have we heard? has marco rubio fired back after firing at trump since that broadside this afternoon? >> so not so far this afternoon, chuck. senator rubio just wrapped up an
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event here at the villages, good overflow crowd in the rek center. he doesn't specifically mention trump by name, afterwards we asked him about what he thought of trump's tax plan, he hadn't had time to look at it yet. not to say rubio wasn't engaging with trump at all. we heard this morning, when rubio took this tactic of you can call appearing not to engage while still engaging. he said he didn't want to talk about trump's campaign, but in the next breath, basically called it a freak show. why the escalating feud? it's the poll numbers. senator rubio pulling even with some of the outsider candidates. you've talked about how rubio can be a bridge with the outsiders and the establishment. we've talked to rubio supporters and folks undecided, you have some people putting rubio in the same breath as ben carson and donald trump. others who say i like rubio, but
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also chris christie, john kasich, some of the more establishment guys as well. >> you're in the state of florida, you didn't mention jeb bush's name. >> didn't mention jeb bush's name and neither did marco rubio on stage. although he did say, there shouldn't be a line, you don't have to wait in line to become president. i haven't talked to too many bush supporters here. >> anyway, hallie jackson with the campaign, thanks so much. now to the front-runner, donald trump is holding on to that lead. he ticked up in the poll technically. he was at 19 the last time. he's now at 21. but carson essentially tied for first place within the margin of error. trump tried to grab some new momentum by releasing some policy proposals, specifically a big tax plan. here is him this afternoon. >> many of the loopholes and many of the deductions which are
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old, been there for years, are antiquated in many cases, or are put there because a lot of the people that get the deductions are contributing to hillary, to bush, to every candidate but trump. >> always got to bring it back to trump. katy tur, you were there when he released his tax plan. couple things, number one, he read from notes. he never reads from notes. that seemed to be a change for him. the second is, he's trying to sell this as a populist tax plan, but the more we dig in, the more we're finding out, this is a pretty big tax break for the rich. >> it looks like it is a very big tax break for the rich. and they want the headline to be out of this, that trump cuts taxes or end taxes for millions of people. they want people to be talking about how everybody making under $25,000 a year, every individual making under that, won't be paying any income tax. every married couple making under 50 grand a year, won't be
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paying any income tax. he's got a graduating tax plan that would cap at 25%. right now, the highest earners are paying 39.6%. this would mean they pay only 25%. so a major tax cut for them. the trump campaign said in order for the rich to be paying more than they are now, he'll end loopholes and deductions, but they did not get into specifics as to what exactly those deductions or loopholes were. there's also going to be an elimination, an entire elimination of the estate tax. the only people that are paying the estate tax right now are people inheriting more than $5.4 million. so the headline for the trump campaign, he's getting rid of taxes for millions. the sub headline according to experts it's a very beneficial tax plan for the wealthiest people in the country, including donald trump. >> is this act two of the trump campaign? is he going to follow this up
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with new proposals? is he trying to say, i'm not just a guy who shows up for a rally, i've got policy details too? >> i think he is going to start trying to do that. not sure when we'll hear more details next. i think it depends on how this plan is received out on the campaign trail. how it's received in the press. if he gets a lot of negative attention, i think he'll back off for a while. but he did say last night that the campaign would bring forth a military plan, military group, if you will, in the coming weeks, as well as an education plan and a health care reform plan. all of these things are big promises the trump campaign is hoping to lay out, but we'll see how quickly they actually are released, chuck. >> we will be asking them all the time. kate tur at trump tower, thanks so much. tonight, more of my one-on-one interview with hillary clinton. we'll get her take on some big topics. not all on e-mails for you. how she would manage a myriad of issues in the middle east.
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what sets her apart from president obama. and where bill's desk would be in a new clinton administration. you'll get it all there. up next, clinton on what went wrong with the country's syria strategy and how she'll tackle foreign policy challenges. >> if he had been able to move in and help organize and support those people on the ground, maybe we could have made a difference. well, we got to deal with where we are now. it's obviously now a different set of circumstances. my drivers don't have time to fill out forms. tablets. keep it all digital. we're looking to double our deliveries. our fleet apps will find the fastest route. oh, and your boysenberry apple scones smell about done. ahh, you're good. i like to bake. add new business services with at&t and get up to $500 in total savings.
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by the way, today is a big nbc news/"wall street journal" poll release day. here's one headline you should know. the new poll shows that vice president joe biden's possible entry into the race is clearly hurting hillary clinton. if the primary were held today, with biden on the ballot, clinton leads sanders by seven points. take him out of the equation and clinton's lead grows to over 15 points. although that's down from the 34-point lead in july, it was a 60-point lead over him in june.
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so here's what's really news this afternoon. who performs better against the gop field? biden or clinton? i'll have that in a few minutes right here mtp daily. we stop arthritis pain, so you don't have to stop. tylenol® 8hr arthritis pain
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has two layers of pain relief. the first is fast. the second lasts all day. we give you your day back. what you do with it is up to you. tylenol®. and now to our debut daily exclusive here, my one-on-one with the democratic front-runner, hillary clinton. this one, a deep dive on policy. >> madam secretary, thanks for being my inaugural guest on mtb dai daily. >> thank you, chuck. >> let's start with foreign affairs, there's a lot going on this week, at the united nations about what to do with syria. did you defeat isis if assad is still running syria? >> i think it's very difficult. i think we'll have to as they say, walk and chew gum at the same time, and that will be to do the best we can with our friends in the region, to go after isis and try to, you know, push them out of iraq, and then try to deal with them and the
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territory they control in syria. but one of the challenges is that a lot of the groups that are fighting on the ground, their primary focus is still assad. we have now the added complexity of russia with military troops and equipment on the ground in syria. they are there primarily to defend assad. secondarily to, as they say, fight terrorists. we've always had iran in there, hezbollah is one of the maine mainstays of the assad regime. so it's a very complicated political situation and a battlefield. >> what does a president clinton prioritize? ousting assad? >> i would prioritize both. you can't really do one without the other. but ousting assad has to be a political process. >> you can't make it a military process? >> you can't. i think we have our hands full with isis. and i think part of the challenge that president obama's been facing is to build up the iraqi forces again after maliki
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decimated them, and to get them in a fighting position and to get the kurds, particularly the peshmerga, able to be fully equipped, then to try to go after isis in iraq and ramadi and mosul, pushing them out if possible. >> you said in an interview about a year ago, don't do stupid stuff, it's not an organizing principle for foreign policy. i know it became a tiff between the administration as you. so what is your organizing principle? >> my organizing principle that he defend our security and values and we do so with partners, friends, and allies around the world. and we do it the way that i did the coalition to put together the unprecedented sanctions against iran. you have to bring people together. you have to find common ground. the united states had a very clear interest in getting iran
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to the negotiating table to deal with their nuclear weapons program. other countries were not as intensely focused on that. i had to work to get them so. and that's the kind of slow, steady, persistent diplomacy that will further our interests and security. >> you were an advocate of training some rebels to fight assad and isis on the ground. we got a report this week that was startling. there are four or five, not 400, or 500, four or five rebels that we have trained with american military help that are still there fighting the fight. >> yeah. >> this is a failure of policy, isn't it? >> well, it is. when i recommended it, it was several years ago, and i can't sit here and tell you that if we had done what i and general petraeus and secretary panetta and others recommended, we would have made more progress on the ground. i obviously thought so at the time because as we look back,
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the people who were fighting assad were, you know, they were business people, they were students, they were professionals, who had risen up against his tyrannical rule, that had really kept so much of syria under his thumb. and before him, his father's thumb. if we had been able to move in to help organize and support those people on the ground, maybe we could have made a difference. well, we got to deal with where we are right now. it's obviously now, a different set of circumstances and what the pentagon has been doing hasn't worked. >> do you think putin saw a vacuum and he's filling it because the u.s. has basically created a vacuum? >> putin's always had a very keen interest in syria. and there are historical reasons for that. there are a lot of russians who lived in syria because a lot of syrians went to moscow to be educated during the cold war. they brought back russian husbands and russian wives. there's a connection between the syrian church and the russian
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orthodox church. and as is clear, putin is very focused on going after terrorists. obviously inside russia and on its borders, but even further afield. they have a base. they've had a naval base there for a number of years. so he didn't just wake up and say, i'm going to go support assad. there was a long-term relationship and as he saw it, russia's interest and securities. but i think they're playing a bigger role now. we have an additional challenge in trying to figure out how we work with them or how we try to prevent them making a bad situation worse. >> let me play something that you rch caught on camera saying after gadhafi was killed. >> we came, we saw, he died. >> i'm guessing that's not something you wanted to see out in public when it was done. but you were celebrating then. is it still something worth celebrating, considering where libya is today? was that actually the right call? >> well, you got to go back and see where we were.
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remember, gadhafi had american blood on his hands. he had been responsible for the murder of innocent passengers on an airline. he had supported terrorism. he was a bad actor. >> he also was somebody that the bush administration negotiated with and convinced to stop a nuclear program. >> that's right. and that was good. that was a very big positive. but when it became clear that people in libya were going to rise up against him, he also said he was going to hunt them down like cockroaches and kill them, and our european allies, who remember, are on the doorstep of libya, were adamant that we had to do something. and i think the way the united states supported what was primarily a joint european and arab league effort, against gadhafi's forces, was called for at the time. >> what was the mistake? should we have had somebody, boots on the ground, to sort of build a post gadhafi libya? >> i think not just the united
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states, there were others who were involved in trying to, you know, prevent a massacre across libya. and i think a lot of efforts should have gone in to support. remember, the libyans have voted twice. and this is what's particularly sad is that they voted twice for moderates to govern them. they participated in two elections to try to elect people that they thought would move them into the modern world, leaving the gadhafi past behind. and they didn't get enough support internally, and they didn't get enough support externally. first and foremost, from the people who were most heavily invested, the europeans and the arabs, in my opinion. >> so that's one-half of my interview. one thing, we did tape it yesterday, so that she made those comments about syria before any of the speeches today. let me bring in ayman mohyeldin.
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you've reported there for years. starting with syria, what did you make of her comments, particularly about justifying russia's presence? >> well, she definitely has a very strong understanding of syria's interest for russia, and the cultural connections there, the church in the reference there. she understands the strategic significance of it. in terms of policy changes, i didn't see anything different than what we're seeing right now from president obama. i don't think anyone who's going to look at that statement from her is going to say that it's very varied than what we're seeing now. president obama has been clear. assad has to go. but the resources committed to fighting in syria have been to degrade and destroy isis. >> she made a more definitive declaration, there's no other way to remove him, other than a political solution. and we heard president obama say that it needs to be that. >> i think she kept the door much more open to working with the russians about the reality on the ground. and that's something that the
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obama administration was prepared to acknowledge. we certainly heard it today very clearly from president obama at the u.n. that he's prepared to talk to iran and russia. but for a long time, the signals out of the administration, they did not want to deal with those two countries. >> very quickly on libya. >> lessons learned, the biggest mistake in libya, after the toppling of gadhafi, tremendous vacuum. that's led to this paralysis in syria. what's going to happen right aft afterwards in syria? it would be much worse than libya. >> thank you, sir. we have our first photo, by the way. president obama's meeting is under way with vladimir putin. i'm sure the niceties are done. we'll be right back. debut episode of "meet the press" daily. us number of miles. or there's a fee to use them.
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we are back with more "mtp dail daily", something we'll be calling the w's, the who, what, where, when, and why of things you shouldn't miss. starting with joe biden, who will be eligible for the first debate in 2016. even if he waits until then to declare. biden also picked up an endorsement from pennsylvania congressman bob brady from philadelphia. brady became famous last week for nabbing the pope's water glass in congress. he's keeping the pope's glass. turning now to the what. the what today is shell oil. it's abandoning offshore drilling near alaska. here's why. the oil giant said there's simply not enough oil to make the project worthwhile. the price of oil has dropped
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big. you have to wronder if a lot of this is going to happen. environmental groups are cheering the decision, they have been fighting arctic drilling for years. as for our where, it's mars. we teased it earlier. nasa reported this morning the quote, strongest evidence yet of liquid water on the surface of the red planet, adding to the speculation that life once existed or exists now, on our solar system neighbor. olon musk is ready to bomb the planet soon to make it habitable. time for the when. tonight there's more political action than ever, a big night for first lady michelle obama, who will make her first appearance on the late show with stephen colbert. also debuting, trevor noah on "the daily show." we wish him the best of luck. by the way, his first political guest this week, will be none
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how hillary clinton plans on winning the democratic votes that she needs over bernie sanders with her domestic agenda. it's the second part of my interview with her, and it's all issue-related. we do have of course all the e-mails on "meet the press" sunday. it's all just ahead. >> i'm morgan brennan with mark. the dow barely hanging on to the 16,000 level. nasdaq slammed down 142 points, more than 3%. apple selling more than 13 million new iphones over the last three days. and one bright spot, alcoa surged nearly 6% after the company said it would split into two. that's it from cnbc, first in business, worldwide. the microsoft cloud gives our team the power
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later than the half hour, more on my interview with hillary clinton, but first, kevin mccarthy officially announced he's running to replace john boehner. the big news when he made his announcement, he wanted to show he's ready to be a statesman. he gave a big foreign policy speech today. is this thing a done deal? is mccarthy about to be the next speaker? >> chuck, i'd be very surprised if kevin mccarthy was not the next speaker. that's derived from conversations with conservative factions of the house gop conference as well as those in the establishment ranks. the real reason is, number one, there's no credible alternative that's emerged. kevin mccarthy also spent all weekend here in d.c., calling every single member of the house gop conference personally. that's what his politics are, the politics of the personal. i'm going to make that call, i'm
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going to come to your district for a fund-raiser. i'm going to call you and text you and check in. i know your wife and kids' names. he's done that since he got here in 2006. he's put that in overdrive since 2010. getting the 218 votes on the first ballot, that will still be a challenge if conservatives move to try to embarrass him a little bit. but they shouldn't. all things considered, they like him as a person and at least want to give him a chance. it's a job that charlie dent said, the republican from pennsylvania, i don't wish that job upon anybody. it's going to be more difficult than what boehner had to go through just now. >> as far as personal skills, you just described another californian who had success becoming speaker, nancy pelosi. >> and mccarthy would be the least experienced speaker since 1991. really a whild ascension. >> we'll have plenty more on the leadership fight brewing on the
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hill in a bit. before that, let's go to the other side of the capital. we'll have congressman tom cole. let's start quickly, what really changes between a speaker mccarthy and a speaker boehner? speaker mccarthy is right out of your wing of the party, the mainstream legislative, conservative, governing wing of the party. >> i think first of all, luke had it right, kevin does have an incredible set of personal skills and relationships that span the conference. second, i think he gets a goodwill period, a honeymoon, and that's something that's hard to get, as was the case with the speaker. and finally, folks, having brought down boehner, they're a little bit like the dog that caught the car, and they've got it. they're not sure what to do with it. causing a ruck us immediately after this, means the problem
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wasn't john boehner, it was you. so i think that will cool some people and hopefully bring them back into the fold. and i know kevin will work very hard at pulling this together. he's exceptionally good at that. >> i always tell people, you're one of the rare members of congress who used to be a pollster in a previous life. so you do get a sense of, you understand what's happening perhaps in the republican party as a whole. is it safe to say that the same forces that chased boehner out, are the same forces that are driving up the poll numbers of fiorina, trump, and carson? >> i think it is. people up here that share that point of view were elected, they weren't appointed. so they reflect certainly a section of the electorate, particularly the republican primary electorate, mostly from red districts and states, but again it's understandable. but, yeah, it's a real movement out there, real anger, and i think a lot of that is misdirected. appropriately directed at the president, but there's a sense
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that sometimes people ask us to do things that aren't possible to do absent the presidency or super majority in the senate. and those are two things that we simply don't have right now. >> are you confident that in three months, we'll avoid a government shutdown? >> i am. i think there's three things pushing us toward a broader deal. transportation fund needs to be filled up, the debt ceiling is looming, and i think most republicans would be very uncomfortable with the sequester, which would cut $40 billion out of the military budget. that happens if there's not a larger deal on january 1st. and to see something like that happening, when we're living in an extraordinarily dangerous world, isil on the rise, russia relitigating the borders of eastern europe, the chinese building islands from the south china sea. i think this is not the time to stumble into a conflict that results in a smaller, less effective american military. >> and very fast, are you for this idea that speaker boehner
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ought to clear the decks, take out all the political garbage in october and get it done now while speaker boehner is there, before mccarthy has to go? >> i am. i think you should do as much as you can as quickly as you can. i know john boehner well enough to know that that won't mean surrendering principles in any way. he simply won't do that. but this is an opportunity, i hope the white house is smart enough to understand it's an opportunity as well. because we're about to slip in an election year where almost nothing will get done. boehner can deliver, i think it's toucher -- tougher on a new leadership team. >> tom cole, republican from oklahoma, always a blunt talker, good to see you, sir. >> thank you. still ahead, more of my one-on-one with hillary clinton, where she stands on the biggest domestic issues of the day. plus, is joe biden the best bet for democrats in 2016? wait until you see how he
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democratic front-runner, hillary clinton. how does she think she compares with bernie sanders on the issues, particularly trade? take a listen. >> you came out on keystone and you said you felt you had to show some deference to the administration. the transpacific partnership trade agreement, you said that before, now that you're willing to say on keystone, are you willing to say where you are on tpp? >> soon as i see what is in tpp, from what i hear, it's kind of a moving target. they haven't finished the negotiations. i've been very clear, if it does not support american jobs, if it does not give us the kind of advantages we need to keep the economy going. we had 3.9% growth last quarter, we need to keep moving in that direction. and if it's not in our security interests, i'm not going to support it. so once i have a chance to review it, i will state where i stand on it. >> 2007, during a debate, you said nafta was a mistake in hindsight. do you still believe that? >> you know, at the time i
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thought nafta held out a lot of promise, but the fact that a lot of the so-called side agreements were not actually in the treaty, i thought was a problem. and it has turned out that i don't think we had enough of an enforcement mechanism in dealing with nafta. now, i don't think it's as bad or as good as either it's detractors or its supporters say, but i think we've learned, or at least i hope we've learned how better to do trade agreements. i voted against cafta because i didn't think the lessons were learned. >> what about abortion restrictions? >> that's in rowe v. wade, restrictions in the third trimester, but they have to take into account the life and health of the mother. my husband vetoed a very
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restrictive legislation on late-term abortions and he vetoed it at an event in the white house where we invited a lot of women who had faced this very difficult decision, that ought to be made based on their own conscience, their family, their faith, in consultation with doctors. those stories left a searing impression on me. women who think their pregnancy is going well and then wake up and find some really terrible problem. women whose life is threatened if they carry their child to term, and women who are told by doctors that the child they're carrying will not survive. again, i am where i have been, which is that if there's a way to structure some kind of constitutional restrictions that take into account the life of the mother and her health, then i'm open to that. but i have yet to see the rauns willing to actually do that, and that would be an area, where if they included health, you could
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see constitutional action. >> you have said you're not running for barack obama's third term. where do you differ? where are a couple places you differ? we talked about syria and the administration, but where do you differ on domestic issues? >> look, i think i would have a different job. i not my husband's third term. both faced economic challenges inherited from their republican predecessors. president obama inherited the worst financial crisis since the great depression. it was his job to stop the bleeding, begin to repair the economy, dig us out of the ditch we were in, which he has done. begin to see the recovery of jobs. but what we haven't seen is the recovery of incomes. we haven't seen paychecks rising yet. people have not recovered either their paycheck on their wealth that was so devastated by the crisis of '07, '08, '09. >> where do you differ with the president? >> i have a different set of specific priorities because i will face a different set of
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issues. i will defend the affordable care act but i want to make improvements in it. i will defend dodd-frank but i want to impose a much harsher set of restrictions based on risk on the financial markets. i think that it won't surprise you to hear that i believe the economy and the country does better under a democratic president. i want to build on what works from both my husband's term and president obama's. i want to go further, and i will face different challenges. >> you said in 2007 you would have roles, you had roles in mind for your husband if you got elected what roles do you have in mind for him? >> he is a great advisor. he knows as much about the economy and how to get jobs created and help people see their incomes rise as anybody i could talk to. i would love to have his -- >> he'll have a west wing office if you get there? >> he's a busy guy. i don't know anything like that. i'm not counting my chickens before my hatch. i want to be sure we get the chance to earn the votes of the
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american people and to win the white house. >> let me end with a question i asked you on "meet the press." why should democrats vote for you and not bernie sanders? why are you a better democratic nominee than bernie sanders? >> i'm not going to in any way criticize senator sanders. he's running a great campaign. i respect that. i can just tell you i think my combination of experience, the fact that i have been a life-long fighter for families and kids and women, and i think a lot of what we need to do in this country, whether it's equal pay for equal work, paid family leave, creating early childhood education, supporting the family more especially with raising incomes is something i have a lot of experience and ideas about doing. i think it is significant that people that have worked with me in the congress, when i wasn't running for president, even republicans were praising me. the fact now i have so many of my democratic colleagues present and former in the house and
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senate out in state houses who are are lined up to say this is the person we want to see as president is very gratifying. they look at what they think i can do for them. >> i was going to make that the last question. what about speaker boehner. this has been a challenge for this president, working with republicans in congress. why do you think you'll have better luck? >> look, i think that first of all, you have to have an agenda you're running on that the american people believe is possible and can get the results that you are saying will come to them. i want to be able to say at the end of my first term, hey, what i've done made life better for the vast majority of americans. i think that you've got to go in condition agenda so that it is policy-based, then you begin the intensive effort to build relationships even with people you don't agree. with i worked with tom delay to reform the adoption and foster care system. >> you think you'll have better relationships than president obama? >> i've been in washington in and out for a while.
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i see how things get done and know how much effort it takes to find that common ground. from day one i will be looking for a way to do that. >> thank you for coming on my first show. >> after the break, we'll unpack that last statement in particular. you're watching "meet the press daily" on msnbc. can a business have a mind?
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reporters on the scene. casey hunt and steve kornaki. unpack that last sentence from hillary clinton. >> she seemed to be making the argument for pragmatism, i know washington and how that world works and how to get results. also, i know how to work with the other side. i know how to breakthrough this partisan logjam in certain times and certain ways. >> did you notice nobody in washington has endorsed bernie sanders? she didn't say it. >> you asked her what makes her different. the simple answer would be i'm a democrat. >> she says i worked with tom delay. who thought we would hear a democrat say that? >> the biggest story nobody talked about today in republican politics is "the washington post" blind quotes from a bunch
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of jeb bush donors who are giving a warning shot to his campaign. >> it's a shot across the bow saying you have a month to get this together. you have a month specifically to pull up your poll numbers. this is a lot of, we heard this angst bubbling up along the way. every time he makes a slip that is surprising. he's made a few. his most recent one was on free stuff. he had to walk it back. it's starting to come to a head. you're looking at because marco rubio is rising in the polls. if they are not able to land an effective punch, we saw them start to try to do it early on. honestly, they were pushing it hard. i'm not convinced they say they have a lot on rubio, whether they can push that back against him, i don't know. i also think there is a lot of frustration among republicans with the polling specifically. i think these donors, we forget how closely these donors care about the polls more than anything. >> they drive campaigns crazy. >> it does. walker, in particular, getting
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out. >> marco rubio, i hear from the clinton supporters, that's who they are afraid of. >> bill clinton against the world war ii president george h.w. bush. >> he has natural skills in this field that are lacking even in bush. >> world class political athlete. >> thank you both. that does it for us. thanks for watching our first show. we hope more of you keep coming back. we'll see you tuesday because if it's tuesday, there will be more "mtp daily." craig melvin picks up more of our coverage here on msnbc. right now msnbc live, face-off at the u. in. president obama and vladimir putin holding their first formal meeting in more than two years. >> donald trump reveals his tax plan and says it will cost people like him a fortune. we'll break it down. >> also out of this world. nasa announces it'


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