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good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. president obama makes his bid to turn long-time adversaries into allies. gearing up for a sitdown with the leader of cuba later today. yesterday's 90-minute meeting with vladimir putin was described as surprisingly open but left without much agreement. one key problem, syrian leader bashar al assad. simply put, putin wants assad to
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stay in power. obama administration says he has to go. secretary of state john kerry underscored that point on "morning joe." >> this really all hinges on one person's choice and or the supporters of that person who insist he is the essential ingredient to the future. he's not. >> the other big meeting is with cuba's raul castro, who will sit down with the president about 45 minutes from now. this picture came from a reception last night. in his first ever address to the u.n., castro said restoring diplomatic ties with the u.s. is just a first step. >> now a long and complex process begins towards the normalization of relations. but this will only be achieved with the end of the economic commercial and financial block aid against cuba. >> the president himself called for an end to the embargo in his
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speech earlier in the day. we've got both stories covered. chris jansing is here with me in new york. also with me, nina, russian expert and professor. less than two years ago, it would have been controversial to have obama even near the leader of cuba and yet things have changed. >> and then they were in panama and everybody was waiting for that handshake and they got it and the opening to the normalization of relations. it's going to be an interesting meeting today. just a short time ago when john kerry was in the building, i was talking to him and i said what do you expect out of this meeting? he said he's kind of a funny guy so i think we'll have a few laughs but the serious business is he's going to come in there and raul castro is going to say how do i get this embargo lifted? we heard what the president said yesterday. he said this is about inevitability. but there's a process. there th is a very complex situation they're going through
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in cuba and everything that's been announced, there have been questions about how it's going to play out, what will castro allow to happen as american businesses start to look at the legalities of it and john kerry said, who knows, maybe in a lame duck session we can get them to lift the embargo. i think that is incredibly optimistic of them. >> important that the embargo against the cube aan government in the hands of congress. and the president has gone pretty much as far as he can go to try and increase the economic ties between the cuban government and the united states, professor. >> it does seem very promising but i think you're all right. it can be a very long process. he does have to go through all this tricky checks and balances and in other countries like cuba, they just need an order of a president or leader to say we're not going to do it anymore and that's done. but in america, there is a procedure and a process and it
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can take a long time. >> you're saying that the cube and leader is going to ask specifically, he's asking for reparations, for the return of the naval base at guantanamo, yet it seems as though cuba has not made nip real changes. >> the human rights question is going to be out there very seriously. the president is going to talk about that. they say every time they have these meetings, that's something that's brought up. they're going to have to see certain kind of benchmarks, areas of progress they're going to be looking for for cuba to be making as this process folds to see how it's going. as you well know, there are members of congress who under no circumstances are going to be willing to support the lifting of the embargo. so i think that the process has to come first, where we are now, what has happened so far, that sort of has to play itself out to see how things are going before they can really seriously talk about bringing that before
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congress. >> let's talk very briefly about the meeting with the leader of russia. it was 30 minutes longer than expected. there is apparently a lot to talk about. >> there's ukraine, syria, generally one accusation of imperialists versus another accusation of imperialists. but the fact that it took so long i thought was a very good sign and in your reports it does say while they didn't really come up with much agreement, well, maybe they didn't but what they agreed is they agreed that they and also their secretary of states and other military forces will be talking to each other. and now when the leads are met, all these other parties, the lower parties would feel very much compelled to have a conversation, to have agreements on various relations, especially russian troops in syria and the united states bombing isis forces.
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so that's important. >> chris, the united states caught by surprise on this alliance -- >> although yesterday they were being dismissive of it saying the actual exchange of intelligence is happening already. to pick up on nina's point, you have a situation where the president made a decision to go in. clearly this meeting went on longer than anybody expected. one senior white house official told me it was very interesting. but they did lay the groundwork they hope for moving some things forward. the situation in syria for the united states is so bad that the situation on the ground and the complexities of how you fix this seem so daunting that at least to even talk about the fact that our militaries are going to maybe talk to each other and we're not going to get into some bad situations there with our aircraft is at least a start, laying the groundwork for something moving forward. >> thank you both for being with me this morning. it's great seeing you both. >> thank you.
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>> and it's a busy morning on capitol hill. the tussle at the top is continuing. we'll hear from the gop leadership in the next hour, including the outgoing speaker. but the name and face of who could be the next leader is becoming more clear. kevin mccarthy is in the race to become the 62nd speaker of the house. listen to what he told "morning joe" earlier. >> a lot of people care about power and institution more so than changing the lives of every day americans. but i see a conference, it it has a new cult and that's what a speaker does, sets the culture. brings people together, lets every voice be heard, i think we can mash some great accomplishments and real change. >> kelly, good morning. he's got the backing of john boehner and very few detractors, right? >> that's one of the interesting things about kevin mccarthy. it seems as though he'll calmly
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sweep into this new very high powered position. part of that is because over the very short time kevin mccarthy has been in the congress, hoose been activelyin gauged working with other members. he moved into laddership quickly in one of the more junior positions and part of his task was to help recruit republicans to retake the majority that they know p now hold. he was traveling the country looking for republicans who were not office holders on the federal level but might have been in their state legislature or city council or a local mayor or local businessman or woman and say come and run for congress. so he has known many of these members since before they were a part of this body, has raised a lot of money for them and he mace tand those relationships. what's interesting here is he's talking about a change yet he's already been endorsed by the speaker. b but. >> the house oversight committee will start a hearing on planned
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parenthood? >> this is one of the ways you'll see the house try to take two tracks. we expect the plan to keep the government open will move forward on the funding side so the battle on planned parenthood will shift to oversight, a hearing where they'll bring l u lieu, showing some members of the planned parenthood organization over time talking about selling fetal tissue and that enraged many conservatives who were already opponents of planned parenthood. democrats rally around planned parenthood as an organization that provide life saving care to women all around the country that has nothing to do with. >> democratic congresswoman
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carolyn maloney is on the oversight committee that will be hearing from planned parenthood this morning. good to see you congresswoman. >> great to see you jose. thank you for shedding a light on this important issue. >> what questions do you have? >> what does planned parenthood do that allows planned parenthood to have such massive support across this country, supporting health services for 2.7 million american women and men and they're in every community across this country providing vital life-saving health services. and i'd ask were doctored, inaccurate and that planned parenthood in no way violated
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the law. i see this as a long string of republican attacks on a woman's right to choose pipt the republicans doubling down in their war against women. it has nothing really to do about fetal tissue. fetal tissue research passed overwhelmingly in a bipartisan vote. it has been proven by many study and report that these are doctored, misleading tapes, that they tried to -- >> have you seen the tapes, congresswoman, either the edited versions or the entirety of them that were put up on that site? >> i am sure that we'll be looking at these tapes all day long today in these hearings, jose. i've seen them on television and i've seen others of doctored parts that were taken out where planned parenthood people were turning down an entrapment of them trying to entice them to try to buy fetal tissue. they do not in any way sell it
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or buy it to areas that do life saving research, that cures diseases. >> so -- it provide vital services like medicare does for older women. it is part of the health care delivery system of our country. and an attack on planned parenthood is an attack on basic health care for vulnerable women. >> new york congresswoman maloney, thank you for being here with me. >> out of. >> afghan forces trying to -- having engaenled in fighting to try and regain control over government buildings.
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we're just getting started on this tuesday edition of "the rundown." bill clinton steps up his involvement in his wife's campaign but he's blaming republicans for overhyping the e-mail controversy. plus a brand new tropical storm has formed in the atlantic. guess what? it could pose a threat for the east coast towards the end of the week. take a look at that cone! look. new york. washington. what is going on? we're going to talk about it. bill karins is here so we'll know. ♪ ♪ ♪
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clinton global initiative annual meeting is just getting under way at this hour right here in new york. this as hillary clinton's campaign is turning it up a notch, dispatching her not-so-secret weapon, bill. kristen welker is here to break down for us. good to see you. >> hillary clinton is out fund-raising on the west coast, hoping to bring in a big haul to prove she is still the strong democratic front-runner. it comes as her husband, former president bill clinton, is ramping up efforts to help her combat this e-mail controversy. >> no stranger to surviving controversy, bill clinton is on the attack this week. >> it really is similar to the strategy that the republicans employed against me with whitewater. >> reporter: the former president is taking a page from his old play book, pointing a finger at the gop. he blamed republicans for
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overhyping his wife's use of a personal e-mail account when she was secretary of state. >> i look at the field and they say who do we not want to run against? and then they dribble out stuff and they attack. >> reporter: and now bill clinton will start to ramp up his engagement on the trail. he's set to attend several fund-raisers in the coming weeks, including in atlanta, missouri and michigan. at each spot he'll try to reassure jittery democrats his wife is still the candidate to beat. >> i'm glad it happened in 2015 instead of 2016 and i believe it will burn itself out. >> reporter: and while mr. clinton's attacks against republicans won't go away, he declined to engage front-runner donald trump, despite trump's constant jabs at secretary clinton. >> he was very nice to me. when i got out of the white house, he wanted hill whiary toe
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to his wedding. >> and bill clinton is not prepared to say whether he'll follow her if she makes it to the white house. >> so he'll have a west wing office? >> he's a pretty guy. i don't know anything like that. but i'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. >> of course the wild card in this race continues to be vice president joe biden, who is considering a run of his on. our latest nbc news/wall street journal poll shows he is the most popular candidate, himself favorable ratings, a net 20 points higher than hillary clinton. >> of course things change once you're in the heat of battle. >> excellent point if he were to get into the race, the expectation is you would see his numbers drop once he started to jab and spar with the other candidates. >> it's great to see you.
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>> great to see you, likewise. >> coming up, tropical storms that could bring major rains to the east coast. and u.s. marshals track down a fugitive with crimes that date back 25 years. where did they find him? in mexico. that's next. awe believe active management can protect capital long term. active management can tap global insights.
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one over florida, associated with the flooding from yesterday. that's a separate system. this is joaquin. this storm is very weak. the center is here, all the thunderstorms are being blown to the south of this storm. it's going to drift over the warm waters just east of the bahamas. it should gain a little strength, about 65 miles an hour. the high end of low end category 1. the only good chance of strengthening is over the next three days. there will be a storm over the southeast that will push it northward. this is where a lot of the forecast gets very difficult. it's a very complex weather pattern. it could shoot an escape off the coast and could be sucked off toward the north of new england. regardless over five days from no, it should be off the coast. we like to show you our computer squiggly lines. they look like pieces of
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spaghetti. trends are off the coast, others take that turn back toward the shoreline. that's alarming. that almost looks like, whoa, isn't that what sandy did? this will be nothing like sandy. it will be a weaker storm, it will be picked up and absorbed by a stronger storm over the atlantic but should have an epic amount of rainfall. this was late last night. this was predicting -- this pink color is 5 plus inches over almost all of the northeast with isolated totals as high as 10 to 12 inches. we're getting 2 to 3 inches tonight and could get another 6 on top of that this upcoming weekend. if the storm has its strength or makes landfall or not, we're going to get some really bad flooding out of this. the question is will it make it to shore as a tropical system or
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will it get absorbed? >> the dry conditions in florida, how's that coming along? >> florida has been getting s d soaked the last month and a half. it will return to some beautiful fall-like weather. it will be more humid in the northeast and mid-atlantic this weekend than it will in florida. >> you know what happens when it rains in florida? >> mosquitoes the size of the pope's fiat 500. they're everywhere. they're bigger than the pope mobile. >> i've seen them. i've been in the everglades. >> a pilot reported a problem with the plane and requested to return to the airport. the brakes overheated causing a fire into the landing gear compartment. >> we'll is a slightly higher than landing speed so we're
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touching down a little faster than normal. >> do you want crash rescue to stand by? >> yes, please, stand by. >> passengers were shuttled back to the terminal by buses. no one was hurt. >> and a fugitive was arrested in guadalajara, mexico. authorities say he and his brother raped two women, apparently keeping them changed. in 2006 the half brother turned himself in and is currently serving 108 years in prison and now jackson is facing extradition back to the u.s. from mexico. still ahead this hour, tonight a georgia woman could become the first female executed in that state in 70 years but will a clemency board spare her life? plus donald trump talks about his tax plan. we'll talk about whether the numbers truly add up with the former director of the cbo.
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and a look now at the new york stock exchange. representatives from pink ribbon/red ribbon, they work to help access preventative care for women with breast cancer. they're there ready to ring the bell. we're keeping a close watch on the market after yesterday's pretty bad selloff. so far we're off to an okay start. things can change quickly on wall street and of course we'll keep an eye on that for you. now to developments on the 2016 campaign trail. this morning donald trump is defending his ambitious tax plan that some say favors the rich and would explode the federal deficit. some say this plan could cost $7 trillion over the years. here is mr. trump responding to
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some of the critics. >> they're wrong because we're bringing in at least $2.5 trillion that's stuck outside of this country. 2.5 trillion and the number could be much, much higher. and companies can't get that money brought back into this country. it's just one of many things. that money will be able to flow back in under my plan. >> let's take a little look at the plan. individuals making less than 25,000 and married couples making less than 50,000 would pay no income tax. the highest tack rate would drove from almost 40% to 25%. overseas profits would be taxed one time at a rate of 10%, which trump claims would bring in more than $2 trillion back to the united states. let's bring in economist, chief economic policy adviser for the 2008 mccain presidential campaign. thanks for being with me. appreciate your time. >> thanks, jose. >> you've been looking at some
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of the numbers. how do they crunch for you? >> it's hard to believe they'll be revenue neutral. he says there's $2.5 trillion offshore. most people believe there is. you're taxing at a 10% rate, that's $250 billion. tax rate are described as lowering the rates and broaden the base. this looks to lower the rates and narrow the base. it's hard to think it will add up. >> does the fact that it's coming back in generate more jobs, more economic activity and fluidity in our nation's money supply? i'm just thinking out loud. >> that in and of itself is a good thing. those are american dollars that would come back in and help american workers.
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this plan would be better than plans with no growth like senator hillary clinton's for example. but it's not nearly as strong as the jeb bush that is put out which is ruthlessly focused on growth. it doesn't add up numerically and doesn't address the policy problem. >> what exactly do you think could be in the plan that is not taking the ethos of how he looks at the tax structure, that could make some economic growth be substantial. i mean, what jeb bush is promising, 4% economic growth on a yearly basis? >> so the trump plan lowers marginal rates. that's a good thing. it helps to spur economic growth. it does cut the corporate rate and the noncorporate business rate dramatically to 15%. both sides of the aisle understand the u.s. corporation income tax is way out of line with international norms. we have the highest tax rate, the most anti-growth corporate tax that needs desperate reform. those are steps in the right direction. it's mixed in with other things that doesn't sort of focus on
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growth and you don't get as much of a result. >> do you see alsouglas, thanks with me. >> thank you. >> gentlemen, good to see you both. even if trump's tax plan numbers don't add up, what does this mean for the 2016 conversation? >> good question. we have some detail now from mr. trump, arguably the most aggressive tax plan, even if it isn't revenue neutral. he consolidates tax brackets lower than anyone else. it will be up for date whether this is a prudent and responsible plan. this will give him some street cred. but if anything, it signals trump is willing to put some real detail out there. that can help and hurt him. if it's seen as too impractical,
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some republicans might break away. >> yesterday he was asked if he's a populist. >> no, i'm not a populist. i'm a man that's built a tremendous company with the best locations in real estate, the best everything. i've done a good job. i'd say i'm a man of common as soon as. >> why not take that mantel of populist and run with it? >> well, donald trump is saying these hedge fund guys who are not paying nearly enough taxes, he said he was going to go after those people. when you look at this plan, people with very high incomes will pay much less in tax under this plan than they do right now. substantively it is not a populist plan, is t is another
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plutocratic plan. i disagree that this is inferior to bush's plan. he took the same plan and made it more luxurious and covered it with brass. neither of those tax plans is populist. he's been running around all summer being a populist. make that is recognition that this tax plan is not a populist plan. >> the whole issue of growth, you promised 4% growth a year, which we haven't seen for some time here in the united states of america. trump saying he's going to bring in billions from offshore money. is there anybody like actually crunching them and saying here exactly is what we see the result of these plans? >> i know there's some guys back here working on it and guys like josh trying to do this as well. it's very impact call -- very difficult to figure out exactly how much all this would cost. you saw over and over again sunday night on "60 minutes" trump unable to explain how he would pay for all of these different things or how he would
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renegotiate trade deals. it will get tiring if he can't put detail behind it yet he runs the risk of providing too much detail and upsetting people if they start reading into it and realize this isn't what i want. >> i've seen estimates this would cost $7 trillion over a decade, a more liberal group said it would cost $11 trillion. you can't do a tax cut that big. 11 trillion is more it and a quarter of all the revenue the government would take in over that period. we're already facing budget deficits. we need more revenue and less spending. donald trump at the same time is out there with this tax cut plan saying i'm not going to cut social security, medicare, medicaid because we'll be so rich, we don't have to make any of those choices. economists agree there's some effect on economic growth from taxes but nowhere close enough to pay for those things that donald trump or even jeb bush is promising.
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>> it's good to see you. >> we need ed here in the studio, too. >> next time. >> a clemency board in georgia will be deciding whether or not to spare the on woman on death row in that state. tonight kelly could become the first female in 70 years to be executed in georgia. she was sentenced to death for the murder of her husband at the hands of her lover who is now serving a death sentence. she dodged a lethal injection back in march because of the drug's cloudy appearance. gabe has the latest. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. while her supporters are racing against the clock here, her execution is set for 7:00 tonight. and yesterday a federal judge rejected a stay of execution request by her attorneys. now, the last-minute clemency hearing is scheduled for 11:00 this morning. that opens the possibility that
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her sentence could be commuted to life in prison with or without parole. now, as you mentioned, jose, she would be the first woman executed in georgia in 70 years. she's the only woman on georgia's death row. she was convicted of plotting to kill her husband back in 1997. and since then her grown children are now begging for her life to be spared. they say that she turned her life around in prison. but some of her husband's other relatives say that she deserves to pay for what she did. they say that the focus should be on him and not on her at this time. now, her case comes during a week where there are several other executions scheduled throughout the country. there's another within in oklahoma tomorrow and a third scheduled for virginia on thursday. since 1999, that's when the death penalty peaked in the united states, there were 98 executions that year. so far this year, 20. jose? >> gabe gutierrez. thank you very much.
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any minute now president obama will meet with cuban leader raul castro behind closed doors yesterday saying restoring diplomatic ties with the u.s. is just the first step and then laid out other demands. but he's getting a lot of attention for something announced in havana last week, a truce between the colombia government and the rebels. it's actually one stage closer to a possible peace proposal that could end 50-plus years of war in that country. i'm going to be speaking with someone who took part in those negotiations next right here on "the rundown." i'll see you in seconds. you see something moving off the shelves and your first thought is to investigate the company. you are type e*. shorten the distance between intuition and action. e*trade.
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powerful rebel group, putting an end possibly to a decade's long war, 50-plus years of a civil war. professor, thanks for being with me. >> thank you very much. >> talk to me about these meetings in cuba. three years in the making. what was accomplished? >> well, last week three very important announcements were made. first of all, both the government and the farc guerrillas have greed graed they will sign the final peace agreement from last week. and they have agreement to disarmament, laying down their arms and that puts an end to the war. and, thirdly, there was an agreement announced on issues of justice for atrocities committed during the war. >> and that's key. >> that is a key that opened the door to the other two agreements.
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it had been holding up negotiations for the last year or so, along with a couple of other issues. that was breaking the logjam and now the path ahead, while there's still a lot of issues to be worked out and potential pitfalls, now i think there's a tremendous sense of hope and optimism in colombia that this long, national nightmare of theirs will finally be over. >> professor, a lot of people may not know that colombia has been involved in a 50-plus year war within its boundaries. thousands of deaths. it's been involved in bloody skirmishes for decades and decades and decades. one of the questions the people of colombia want to know is will these farc people who kill people, have blood on their hands, will they be paying prison time? >> it depends. for those who fail to fully disclose the truth, who fail to publicly accept responsibility for what they've done and who
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fail to provide reparations to the victims, they will be facing prison time of up to 20 years and a trial. on the other hand, and this is what's unique about this new agreement, there will be reduced sentences for the farc members who agree to do all of the above, that is fully tell the truth, fully accept personal responsibility for their actions and provide reparations to the victims. for those members of the farc, they're looking at sentences for very serious crimes of five to eight years of labor in reparations coupled with what are call infective restrictions on their liberty. >> professor, the issue of the drugs that the farc has been so intimately involved with for years, what about drug dealing? what about giving security to drug cartels? is the drug issue going to be included in this? >> first of all, if you are a --
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i'm not saying you are, but a colombia drug dealers not involved with the guerrillas, he's got nothing to do with this. life goes on as usual, there's prosecution in colombia, extradition to the united states. the farc claim that they don't actually deal drugs, that what they do is impose taxes on the peasants who grow the drugs and sometimes those who traffic the drugs, that will have to be worked out about the colombians in the drafting of what's going to be an amnesty law. but the amnesty law according to the agreement will not cover atrocities such as war crimes, human rights violations and so forth. >> douglas castle, thank you very much for being with me. i really appreciate your time. >> my pleasure. thank you. we're waiting on details with president obama's meeting right here and we'll bring you those pictures once we get them.
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now to this blockbuster announcement from nasa and the possibility that we may not be alone in this universe. nasa's revelation that they have found evidence of saltwater flowing on the surface of mars means there could be life on the
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red planet. right now on capitol hill the house science committee is about to hold a hearing called astro biology and the search for life beyond earth in the next decade. joining me now via skype, nbc news space correspondent, jay barbree. jay, always a pleasure to see you, my friend. is it time for you and i and all our friends to pack our bags and think that we can actually have the possibility of living on mars in the near future? >> jose, as i told you, i already have you a deed to water front property on mars if you get sear jess aborious about it. some scientists are telling me it is a greater discovery for the 21st century than what we discovered on the moon. it means very simply that there is a slim possibility there could be some sort of life on mars. but all of the history that we've studied, the facts that we know today, mars at one time had oceans of water and it is still under the surface. and in the warmer part of the seasons, it flows, it seeps up
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in these streaks that we see in these pictures, but it also tells us that we could also set up a colony there, that we could use this water for all the purposes we need it for as humans but also as rocket fuel. so in the words of neil armstrong who preached and preached before he departed this planet a couple of years ago that we should start thinking about not just living on earth, but living in the earth/moon system. that becomes our home. and then from there we go on to the solar system. and now mars is very promising, jose, that we can go back, we can live there, we can see, and we can learn what happened to mars, what turned it into the planet it is today and maybe, just possibly, we could make sure that doesn't happen to earth. >> jay, very quickly, the fact that -- now you're telling us that they've discovered there still are the bodies of water underneath the surface. right?
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i mean actual seas underneath the structure. and if there's seas underneath there and there's water, there could be something living and hanging out there. right? i mean there could be. >> right. well, yeah. it's under there. it's flowing water. during the warmer periods it flows, and then it does not because it is very cold on mars. but remember, this is very salty, salty water. and like we throw salt on our highways during the winter, to keep them from freezing, salty water doesn't freeze that easily and therefore it can flow. >> jay, always a pleasure to see you, my friend. i think -- i'm not kidding -- i think you and i may be able to visit mars, take a sweater -- >> we'll go together, jose. >> thanks so very much. always a pleasure. coming up on "the rundown," it is a big hour on capitol hill. in just minutes house speaker john boehner expected to house a news conference with the gop leadership. we know there is a change coming to that leadership with boehner stepping down, but will they discuss it today?
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good morning once again, i'm jose diaz-balart in new york. let's take you right to capitol hill where we are watching two developing stories. live pictures from the house side of the capitol. any minute house speaker john boehner is expected to take questions from reporters. he'll be joined by the rest of the gop leadership, including the front-runner to replace him as speaker. also this hour the head of planned parenthood goes before the oversight committee, her first appearance since videos were made public that planned parenthood says were heavily edited. nbc's kelly o'donnell is covering it all on the hill. how is planned parenthood coming into this hearing today? >> reporter: they're on the defensive in some ways because
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certainly republicans who control this house oversight committee will have very pointed questions about some of the practices at planned parenthood. but they also have a really well of support among democrats who believe the organization across the country is doing the work that is necessary to provide women with health care that has nothing to do with abortion. so in that sense this should be contentious and party line. what we expect to hear is some discussion of the videos that got a lot of attention. see seal richards of planned parenthood will undoubtedly argue that those videos don't properly depict what was going on inside planned parenthood. but there will be tough questions. you've got to remember the backdrop here. conservatives who do not believe in abortion have not liked planned parenthood for a long time for its practice of providing that service, but also for the political realm that planned parenthood is as an organization is often a campaign donor to democrats. democrats take the other position, that planned parenthood is the type of organization that can provide
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safe and medically sound care for women and that abortion is a very tiny percentage of its overall service. republicans have been trying to say let's shift the federal money that goes to provide the funding for those sorts of services -- because no federal dollars go directly to abortion services -- shift that to other women's health clinics around the country. democrats will say those clinics are not up and running and in a position to provide the same kind of services. so this is at the heart of the presidential campaign, the congressional campaigns, and a long-standing fissure between the parties over the role of an organization like this, over the ongoing tension about abortion. so this is one of those heated hearings. it also comes, jose, at a time when, as we speak, we're on the eve of a federal government shutdown that would end the -- the funding would end wednesday night at midnight. it looks like there is a very safe plan to keep that going for another couple of months. but conservatives have wanted to
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threaten a government shutdown over this funding for planned parenthood. that appears to be a fight that will go on into the next set of crises down the line and house republicans will try to use other tools to go after that money. so these two events waiting for speaker boehner and his likely successor, kevin mccarthy, and this hearing all sort of interrelated today on some of the most heated issues from capitol hill. >> i do want to go to the other story you just mentioned, behind the scenes leadership jockeying that's playing out in public. just hours after throwing his hat into the ring, congressman kevin mccartthy is now the odds-on favorite to become speaker. how does he differ than boehner? >> reporter: in many ways he's worked very closely with boehner, but perhaps the biggest differences would be generational perhaps. boehner is almost 66, kevin mccarthy is 50. while that doesn't seem like a huge sweep, mccarthy has maintained better relationships along the way with some of the more restless conservatives that
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have been problematic for boehner. so perhaps there's an opportunity to build a bridge there. but it's not like they're working from two different play books. if mccarthy gets this big job will try to set a new tone. he's using words like "changing the culture" within the republican conference. he has been a part of leadership for a number of years, but he's at least trying to strike that note. he's got boehner's endorsement as well as that of other prominent republicans in the house. so there doesn't seem to be a threat to mccarthy getting the speaker job. it will really be more of a battle for subsequent leadership jobs which also change when they take these leadership elections. >> kelly o'donnell on capitol hill, thank you very much. they're now going through the rules on that house oversight committee. as soon as see seal richards' testimony begins, we'll bring it to you. but developing now, president obama's meeting with cuban leader raul castro as we speak, just the second meeting between the two since their countries restored diplomatic ties late last year. on at least one key issue, the
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two men agree. both of them called for the end to the u.s. trade embargo during their speeches before the u.n. general assembly. but so far the president hasn't been able to get the u.s. congress on board. nbc's chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell joins me now. >> it is great to see you. >> talk to me about the agenda and the significance that for the first time the president of the united states of america and the leader of cuba at united nations called for the same thing. >> first of all, it is also raul castro's first appearance at the united nations so that's a very big deal. we know that it was when fidel castro declared the revolution in 1959 at the u.n., that was the break, the break forever -- >> he's the one that spoke at the u.n. never his brother. >> it was also the longest speech ever at the u.n. we get some long ones that i've covered but this one before my time was more than four hours which is not long for fidel castro but was long by u.n. standards. but here you had two leaders, american and cuban leaders, each doing their speeches and calling for an end to the cuban trade
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embargo. for years the united states was isolated in its vote against that u.n. resolution that comes next month on the trade embargo and cuba now has united support at least at the united nations. but not in congress. >> that's the important position there because the embargo has been codified into law. the president has gone not only as far as many thought he could go but even further in trying to chip away at that codified embargo. >> he has. he's done just about everything you could do by executive action, by treasury action. there are meetings in new york this week between cuban officials, american officials and the airlines to try to get more flights. there is going to be another -- >> chamber of commerce is meeting -- >> well the chamber of commerce, tom donahue and the chamber, the republican busy community has been very much in favor of getting rid of the embargo, as have some republican members. flake. some -- grassley and some others
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from the wheat states who all wanted to support grain to cuba. but there are still enough people in congress i don't think there is any real prospect in the coming year that that embargo is actually going to be lifted. >> it is important to mention what the codified embargo says, that that embargo will be removed if cuba calls for free and fair elections, if it releases political prisoners and permits freedom of press and expression. so far none of those real issues have been tackled but it is a new relationship between the united states and cuba. >> and the argument from the administration from the state department is we'll take this one step at a time. they do raise all of those human rights issues. there have been prisoner released. but yes, they have not seen the dramatic changes that they are demanding and have expected. yet they're willing to establish these economic ties and make them even closer thinking that once the internet is in, once communication is real, it will have the same effect that it had in the former east bloc and you're going to see a real
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change. >> i can't let you go because i need your thoughts and comments on what's going on right now between putin and president obama. putin and syria. and iran. was the united states caught off guard by this agreement? and then how could that be, and what do you do now? >> they say they weren't caught off guard but they were. they say it is not operational, it is not really going to change with be but now iraq is in the mix. they always knew that russia and iran were working with assad. there is a real disagreement. interestingly, david cameron and the brits are now basically agreeing with putin on this point. if you got rid of assad, isis would take over. isis would be in toddamascus. they'd have their caliphate. isn't it better to keep the devil you know, assad, and keep some regime in syria or break it apart and do it province by province. >> so do you think the president and his administration will change that definition of who should or should not be in power in syria? >> they think assad should go but the question is the timing of it and whether some kind of political agreement can be
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negotiated but they've been talking about negotiations for years. jose, you know how unlikely that is. the really dirty little secret behind the scenes is that as long as the saudis and emeratis who are funding isis, as long as that's going on, the iranians and the americans agree you are not going to get at the fundamental problems. so tonight john kerry is meeting privately with those gulf leaders saying, hey, guys, isis is really a threat to all of us fundamentally. cut it out. >> look forward to your reporting on that, andrea. >> thanks for being with me. right now on capitol hill, house speaker john boehner, majority leader kevin mccarthy and other leaders from the house gop conference are holding a live conference, talking about speaker boehner's departure. >> certainly people all across this country want to see congress getting things done. they want to see us focused on issues that are going to make their lives better. we met this morning and we will be meeting again this afternoon
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as republicans to discuss our priorities and how we're going to proceed. america's future depends on us offering positive solutions, working together, so that america's future will be strong. >> good morning. i want to express my deep appreciation to my colleagues in the conference who have joined together so strongly to support the justice for the iranian victims -- justice for victims of iranian terror pact. this has its der rivation as a prosecutor. there are some $43.5 billion of judgments which have been rendered under american law for victims of acts of iranian
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terror. there's more than 80 lawsuits that have been successfully prosecuted through the courts. despite this, not one cent has been paid by iran. >> so gop leadership talking. we'll keep an eye on that as well as the hearing going on on capitol hill on plant par parenthood. we'll bring that to you when it gets under way. russian president vladimir putin didn't even spend the night in new york. speaking before the u.n. in the morning, sitting down with president obama for a 90-minute meeting before leaving town. afterward the white house called it a broad-stroke conversation about the conflicts in syria and ukraine. putin himself described it as constructive but indicated the two men are still very far apart on key issues. mark ginsburg is with me this morning. ambassador, good to see you. >> good morning. >> "the new york times" described putin's speech to the u.n. as proof that putin wants to be the world's premier antagonist to u.s. power. >> indeed. i read the speech and it looks like the best prescription that dr. putin is advising for the
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world is we need more dictators. so he's trying to create a new acquisition of dictators in the middle east, hold up mr. assad, that includes the iranians, himself, as well as now the iraqis, as well as mr. assad. so what he said is that the united states and its methodology of dominating the world needs to give way to more dictators and that's exactly what he said in his speech. >> we've been talking about there. andrea mitchell talked about it. if the syrian dictator is taken out in some form, will it not create a vacuum, a power vacuum there, that could actually let isis grow? >> you know, jose, all of us who follow syria from the time that the war began five years ago understand we can argue between who won the debate in this latest meeting between putin and obama. that's irrelevant. what's really relevant is that the russians have tripled down
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in syria. they are going to support assad along with hezbollah, along with the iranians, to keep him in power. syria will ultimately be partitioned. the united states have declared that assad had to go. that policy is out the window. there's a real recognition that the president's policy in syria is a failure and that the russians are now going to so-called keep assad in power, and any talk of so-called managed transition is something that's a figure leaf. it sort of camouflages what both the israelis, the russians and just about everybody else in the region except saudi arabia around turkey want, which is that if assad goes, then isis will come. that's what no one wants. >> ambassador ginsburg, thank you very much for your time. >> sure. now back to capitol hill. john boehner is speaking. let's listen in for a bit. >> not at all.
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this has been a bipartisan agreement and we'll take care of it today. >> can you speak to the timing of the leadership election? >> no. i told members this morning i have not decided when the leadership elections will occur. i asked for their input and i got a few pieces of advice, but i would hope to make an announcement the next day or two about that. >> would you like it to be sooner? i mean -- you don't care. >> it's up to the members. it is not up to me. it's like any decision i make. i listen to my colleagues and i'm listening to them. i would hope to make a decision soon. yes, sir. >> mr. mccarthy, some of the conservatives, skeptics, are concerned that if you're speaker it wouldn't be much different than mr. boehner. how would you be different as speaker compared to mr. boehner?
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>> i won't be as tan. >> there you go. >> john is a very good and decent man. this is a man that came in to this office, and if you looked at those that maybe want to fight, how did the house -- john boehner fought to get majority. went into leadership, left, became a committee chairman, then came back and fought for another majority. he's one of the few standing that's won two majorities. but everybody is different. there's a generational difference about us as well. i'm a little younger. i know what's going on across the country. i'm concerned about what we hear. a lot of people in washington are concerned about power and institutions. i'm concerned about making a
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difference in everybody's lives. we want to make sure that we're closer to the people. that they feel this is their government, they're in charge and we serve them. now that's not easy and it won't change overnight but that's our mission. >> all right. there you heard john boehner and one of his final press conferences at least for a while. we're going to take a short break right here on "the rundown." much of the action continues to occur on capitol hill. we're waiting on that meeting on pla planned parenthood. i see katy tur's here. that means things are going to get better. we'll be right back. because you can't beat zero heartburn! ahhh the sweet taste of victory! prilosec otc. one pill each morning. 24 hours. zero heartburn.
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welcome back to "the rundown." happening now on capitol hill, the head of planned parenthood is planning to testify before the house oversight committee. we'll bring you what she says when she begins speaking. a high-profile endorsement for donald trump this morning a day after releasing his tax plan. it comes from another billionaire, investor carl icahn who's throwing his support behind trump in a video message posted today. also this morning, trump was on the "today" show to tout his plan that would simplify he says the tax code and give most people a tax cut. >> we're going to be reducing corporate taxes, jobs will be created, the economy is going to expand tremendously like it hasn't since reagan but probably even before that. this will be a rocketship for the economy. >> nbc's katy tur has been closely following the trump campaign. katy, good morning. >> good morning, jose. >> everything's going to be like a rocketship. >> it's all going to be terrific. >> all terrific. what about this tax plan?
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>> it's his tax plan. what do you make of it? >> i'm asking you what he says it's going to do for america. >> he says it is going to be a real boon to the economy. tax penalty right now is overcomplicated and it needs to be simplified so he's made it from seven brackets down to four, 0%, 10%, 20%, and 25%. that means everybody is getting a tax cut under the trump plan. he had been touted on the campaign trail this would be a plan for the middle class, all these hedge fund guys are going to -- >> what about the hedge fund guys in this plan? >> they're going to get their taxes cut. right now the highest earners, hedge fund guys and the like -- you, probably -- are paying 39.6%. at trump's top level, it would be 25%. he does want to get rid of loopholes and deductions that he says are allowing people like hedge fund guys and the other rich to pay even less tax but he hasn't specified exactly which loopholes or deductions those
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are. that will come later, we assume. then there will be more details and more fleshing out of this plan. so far what people are saying is although it is a tax cut for the middle class and a tax cut for everybody, it seems like ultimately this is a tax cut for the very high earners and that includes donald trump. don't forget, the estate tax is also going to be eliminated under this plan. the only people who pay the estate tax are people who are earning -- inheriting at least $5.4 million. >> that's not turkish dollars. liras. it's actual dollars. >> it's dollars. >> talk about carl icahn. >> the biggest endorsement that he's gotten so far, he is the billionaire investor in apple. he came out in a video that he released on his website to reporters saying that this country needs to wake up and it needs somebody to wake it up. he's not necessarily agreeing with trump's policies but he does think that trump can go out there and shake things up and make a difference. trump has invoked icahn's name a number of times on the trial. unstump speech you hear where he
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it was part of a brief weekly republican leadership news conference, the first since boehner's surprise announcement that he'll be stepping down by the end of next month. boehner talked about his remaining days as speaker. >> going to take this one day at a time and do what we can on behalf of the american people n and i'm not going to change my process at all. i spend every day trying to do the right things for the right reasons. >> also this morning majority leader kevin mccarthy, the man who wants to succeed boehner, talk about his plans on "morning joe." >> we're going to get closer to the people we represent and you know what? we're going to make america again believe that this is their government, that they are in charge and we are here to serve them. now it won't be overnight but that's my mission. >> i'm joined by msnbc's jacob soberov. you got a first-hand look at congressman mccarthy's district in california. >> sure did.
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before kevin mccarthy officially jumped in for the race to become the next speaker of the house i drove up to his home district of bakersfield, california in the central valley to hear from his constituents. what they want the man who would be the next speaker of the house to do for them in washington. take a look. >> greetings from bakersfield, california, the 23rd congressional district, also known as kevin mccarthy country. so this is a buck owens crystal palace. it is pretty much the main attraction in bakersfield, founded by country music superstar buck owens. you know the reason i came up here is because bakersfield is about to become the center of american politics because your local congressman might become the speaker of the house. >> exactly right. >> he's an excellent person, too. >> what are these? apples? >> yeah. >> they're so good. >> we don't call 911. what's that mean? >> we handle our business. >> in bakersfield. >> absolutely. >> do you know your local congressman here? >> well, we've got kevin mccarthy. >> that's right. >> he's a good guy.
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he understands bakersfield. >> what do you think of kevin mccarthy? >> i like him. i zipped into a parking spot in front of me. it was a compact space in an suv. i said that's it, don't like him. >> we like kevin. >> sounds like he might be the next speaker of the house of representatives. i think that would be a really good move. >> i think he has the valley's interests at heart. >> he relates to the common man here. >> what do you do here? >> i'm kind of semi-retired but i am an oil and gas man and she's an educator. >> oil and gas is extremely important to this area. >> and ag. >> agriculture, oil and gas. >> yes. >> you want to see him tackle things like immigration reform? >> i think immigration reform is important. >> what's important in bakersfield? >> for her, berries. >> berries in bakersfield are so important. >> people want to know the reality if we sent 11 million people, are the price of strawberries going to quadruple.
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produce is going to go through the roof. >> this morning i was on a farmers market on other side of town as it seemed to be kevin mccarthy country. if i ask you today is kevin mccarthy going to support immigration reform, what would you say? >> i would say he has a choice to make. is he going to represent his district? agra business is the numb per one industry here within his district. immigration reform is critical to the success of ag and throughout the district as well as throughout the state and country. >> so you're the chairman of the county republicans. that's a position kevin mccarthy once held. >> that's a fact. >> as potential speaker of the house what is the number one issue people want to see him take up in washington? >> i think immigration is a big issue and i think it is going to be a tight rope walk for kevin if he gets elected to the position. >> will we see comprehensive immigration reform in the congress and will it pass under kevin mccarthy? >> i don't know that i can answer that. i think kevin is definitely going to work towards something that's going to benefit the people in his district. >> sounds like a maybe.
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>> it sounds like a maybe. >> sounds like a maybe, jose, not just for immigration reform. this is a really interesting district. it is a place that voted 2-1 for mitt romney but despite that, the folks i talked to were not mentioning issues that you hear from the far right in the republican party. we weren't talking about planned parenthood or obamacare or shutting down the government. people wanted to hear about the economy and for them that means agriculture, it means oil, it means immigration reform and it means most importantly, the drought. kevin mccarthy will have an interesting choice to make on his hands, is he going to go with the far right or is he going with the constituents in his own district. >> he could do something speaker boehner never did is permit a vote on immigration reform, let the house of representatives vote as they wish, and then -- and then -- see what happens. that's another option that he could do and it would be, well, i think something that would surprise a lot of people. >> you are view thely right, jose. if he's listening to his constituents, he will do just that. >> jacob, great seeing you. coming up, for the first
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time in more than a decade, a major city in afghanistan falls to the taliban. latest from john miklaszewski at the pentagon. and in washington, the head of planned parenthood will face off with members of congress seeking to defund the organization. more of this on "the rundown."
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better than clorox. we go to washington, cecile richards about to speak at the planned parenthood meeting at the house. she was just sworn in. >> thank you, mr. chairman. i'm proud to be here today speaking on behalf of planned parenthood, a leading provider of high-quality reproductive health care in america. 1 in 5 women in this country has sought care from a planned parenthood health center and they trust us because our rigorous health care standards have been developed with the nation's top medical experts
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over our 99-year history. there's been a great deal of misinformation circulated about planned parenthood recently and i want to be absolutely clear at the outset -- the federal funding that planned parenthood receives allows our doctors and clinicians at our health centers to provide birth control, cancer screenings and testing and treatment for sexually transmitted infections. now while the federal policy, in my opinion, discriminates against low-income women, no federal funds pay for abortion services at planned parenthood or anywhere else except in the very limited circumstances allowed by law. these are when the woman has been raped, has been the victim of incest or when her life is endangered. planned parenthood operates just like all other health centers and hospitals that provide medical care to medicaid patients. medicaid reimburrs us for the preventive health services that
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we provide and the department of health & human services conducts routine audits of the medicaid program to ensure that these funds are used appropriately. and the same is true for the title 10, the federal family planning program, which was signed into law by president richard nixon. planned parenthood has been in the news recently because of deceptively edited videos released by a group that is dedicated to making abortion illegal in this country. and this is just the most recent in a long line of discredited attacks, the tenth, over the last 15 years. the latest smear campaign is based on efforts by our opponents to entrap our doctors and clinicians into breaking the law and once again our opponents failed. to set the record straight, i want to be clear on four matters. first, using fetal tissue in life saving medical research is legal, according to the 1993 law
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passed by the senate 93-4. and based on recommendations from a blue ribbon panel that was created under the reagan administration. second, currently less than 1% of planned parenthood health centers are actually facilitating the donation of tissue for fetal tissue research. third, in those health centersi something that our patients want to do and regularly request. finally be, planned parenthood policies not only comply with but indeed go beyond the requirements of the law. the outrageous accusations leveled against planned parenthood based on heavily doctored videos are offensive and categorically untrue. i realize though that the facts have never gotten in the way of these campaigns to block women from health care they need and deserve. and mr. chairman, you and i do disagree about whether women should have access to safe and
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legal abortion. at planned parenthood, we believe that women should be able to make their own decisions about their pregnancies and their futures, and the majority of americans agree. we trust women to make these decisions and consultation with their families, their doctors, and their faith. and not by congress. it is unacceptable that in the 21st century women in america are routinely harassed for accessing a legal medical procedure. doctors who provide abortion, as well as their families, often face harassment and threats of violence and after this recent smear campaign, it's only gotten worse. these acts against women and health care providers don't preflepr reflect american values or the rule of law and i hope this committee will condemn them. for 99 years planned parenthood has worked to improve the lives of women and families in america, and largely as a result of access to birth control,
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women are now nearly half the workforce in america, and more than half of college students. and as a result of better sex education and more access to birth control, we are now at a 40-year low for teen pregnancy in the united states. but for all the progress we've made, there is much still to do. for many american women, planned parenthood is the only health care provider they will see this year. and it is impossible for our patients to understand why congress is once again threatening their ability to go to the health care provider of their choice. two weeks ago i was in plano, texas with one of these patients. dana ferris-fischer. dana can't be here today because she has a new job and she's supporting her family. but if she were here, dana would tell you what she told me. that planned parenthood saved her life. in 2013 -- her husband lost his
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job and therefore their health insurance. and not long after, dana found a lump in her breast. and the only two clinics that would take a patient without health insurance couldn't see her for at least two months. so dana came to planned parenthood for a breast example. there our clinician of 21 years, vivian, guided her through the process of follow-ups and referrals and helped make sure that her treatment was covered. and she called dana repeatedly to check on her as she entered treatment. and i am really happy to say that dana is now cancer-free. mr. chairman, i wish this congress would spend more time hearing from women like dana. all women in this country deserve to have the same opportunities as members of congress and their families for high-quality and timely health care. so i want to thank you to be here today and the opportunity
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to testify on behalf of dana and the 2.7 million patients who rely on planned parenthood for high-quality essential health care every year. thank you. >> thank you. planned parenthood has sent $32 million-plus in grants overseas. do any of these funds go to the democratic republic of congo? >> congressman, let me tell you -- >> no, no, we don't have time for a big narrative. >> you asked me a question. >> yes or no. >> any of the money that planned parenthood raises and is given by foundations and individuals to support family planning services around the country is in africa and in latin america and they go to individual organizations. i'm happy to provide you a list of those organizations but i did not bring them with me. >> if you could give us a list of those organizations. does planned parenthood have any ownership in foreign companies?
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>> i don't believe so. i don't know what you mean by "ownership." >> in your 2013 tax return it lists $3.3 million marked as "investment" in central america and the caribbean. i'm just asking you if that investment was an actual investment. >> we don't own anything in those countries. what. >> okay. i have to keep going. i would appreciate a list. you've been very cooperative so far. >> we have been extremely cooperative. >> i just cited that. if you can give us a listing, as you said you would, of where those dollars go overseas we would very much appreciate it. your compensation in 2009 was $353,000. is that correct? >> i don't have the figures with me. but -- >> it was. congratulations. in 2013 your compensation went up some $240,000. your compensation we're showing bases on tax returns is $590,000. correct? >> that's not my annual compensation. actually my annual compensation
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is $520,000 a year. there was a program i believe that the board sort of put together for a three-year -- again, i think we've been extremely forthcoming with all of our documents. >> let me go to the next one. >> will the gentleman yield? >> no, i won't. the planned parenthood and its lobbying arm, planned parenthood action fund controls two 527 organizations that have their own political activities. planned parenthood votes and planned parenthood action fund pac. do they receive money from these -- >> that is a totally separate corporation, receives no federal dollars whatsoever. >> what about the planningment? who mansion it? do you manage it? >> it's managed by a team of people who are employed by -- >> are you one of those in management? >> i don't directly manage it, no, sir. >> do you help manage it? >> some of my time is allocated to it but i do not oversee --
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i -- >> in 2013, you were listed as a shared employee. you were compensated with $31,000 to help run that organization. correct? >> you asked me -- excuse me, sir, but you asked me if i ran the organization. >> do you help run it? >> some of my time is allocated to the planned parenthood action fund which is required by law and we meet all of the legal requirements. >> so you also are involved in the planned parenthood action fund. what -- if you could help us understand what the duties are for your $31,000 of contribution, my guess is you run the mothership here when you show up and want to have something done, it's probably done. does planned parenthood control any organizations that lobby? >> the planned parenthood action fund is a separate organization that has its own board and its own fund-raising and no federal employees -- >> shared list, shared e-mails,
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shared assets. this is the concern. tell me -- >> i just want to make sure you understood my statements as i know that we're talking about federal funds. zero federal funds are related to the -- zb >> it is the co-mingling that bothers us. every dollar that you get from federal dollars means you don't necessarily have to allocate it for these particular assets. that's what we're concerned about. tell me about the $200,000 you gave to the ballot initiative strategy center. what was that for? that was in 2013 as well? >> i'm no the familiar with that exact payment. >> you gave them $200,000. you are running this organization. >> sir -- >> no, hold on. let me list out what their goal is. their mantra is envisioning a future where progressives change the game and use ballot measures as a political and civic engagement tool for victory. and you gave them $200,000. >> sir, i run an organization
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that has a budget of roughly $200 million. when you pull one figure out of the last five years, i'm trying to be responsive. it's important to -- perhaps you're not aware that there have been many efforts in states over the last several years to pass ballot initiatives that restrict women's access to birth control and reproductive health kwcare t we have also absolutely been involved in ballot initiative measures -- zblb if you want to be a private entity, be a private entity but you don't need federal dollars in order to do this. >> i don't use federal dollars to do this. >> you do. >> excuse me. >> planned parenthood has given planned parenthood action fund more than $22 million to exercise what -- to involve in their lobby expenditures and their advocacy efforts. >> none of the dollars that you are discussing are federal dollars and the planned parenthood fed case of america receives almost no federal dollars. i think at this point only
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$21,000 for a clinical on birth control. we are highly accountable. >> i need to show this last slide. this one i don't understand. in the case of dana, when she came to planned parenthood did she get a mammogram? >> no, she was referred for a mammogram. absolutely. >> that's part of the challenges is that you don't do mammograms. correct? there's like one or two places that does it. but you don't do mammograms. >> if you would give me one moment to explain? planned parenthood is a women's health center which is just like where i go for my women's health every year. if you need a mammogram, you are referred to a radiological center and that's how women receive their care. we provide breast exams, hundreds of thousands of women received breast exams at planned parenthood last year -- has nothing to do with -- again, you
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created this slide. i have no idea what it is. >> well, it is the reduction over the course of years in pink. that's the reduction in the breast exams and the red is the increase in the abortions. that's what's going on in the organization. >> this is a slide that has never been shown to me before. i'm happy to look at it. it absolutely does not reflect what's happening at planned parenthood. >> you're going to deny that -- >> i'm going to deny this slide that you just showed me that no one has ever provided us before. we've provided you all the information about everything -- all the source services that pl parenthood survives. doesn't feel like we're trying to get to the truth here. you just showed me this. >> i pulled those numbers directly out of your corporate reports. >> excuse me. my lawyers in of me the source is americans united for life which is an anti-abortion group so i would check your source. >> we will get to the bottom of the truth of that. we will now recognize mr.
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cummings for a generous seven minutes. >> i think it is eight. miss richards, you and i often hear women, including my wife, talk about the way women are treated as opposed to men. and not being a woman, i at the same time try to be sensitive. i want to just -- the chairman just gave you a series of questions. i just have a few other ones. miss richards, i find it extremely hypocritical that republicans criticize the salaries of planned parenthood officials when you have violated no laws especially while these same republicans completely ignore the ceos of huge companies that are actually guilty of breaking the law. earlier this year city corp., jpmorgan and other major banks pled guilty to manipulating currency markets and interest rates. they were fined more than $5 billion for their actions.
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yet citi group's ceo still received $13 million last year and jpmorgan's ceo received $20 million. these banks get extensive federal support in the form of borrowing through the federal reserve's discount window and access to deposit insurance through the fdic. miss richards, do you know if house republicans made any effort to strip the banks of their federal support that i just talked about? >> i'm not aware. >> i can tell you, they didn't. johnson & johnson, another one. was fined more than $2 billion for illegally marketing drugs and paying kickbacks to doctors and nursing homes. yet the company's ceo still received $25 million last year. miss richards, do you know if the house republicans conducted an investigation of this company or other drug companies that violated the law? do you? >> i do not. >> well, i can answer that for
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you. no, they didn't. and they also never sought to deny them federal funding through medicaid or to block their nih grants. let me go on. last month lockheed martin was fined millions of dollars for using taxpayer funds to lobby congress to maintain this home on a multi-billion dollar pentagon contract. lockheed received a stunning $33 million last year. miss richards, do you know if there has been any investigation or any effort -- any -- to eliminate lockheed martin's federal funding? >> sounds like there hasn't been. >> you got it. of course, there wasn't. these are huge companies that are actually guilty of breaking the law, and their ceos make millions of dollars! republicans never criticize the
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salaries of their ceos, and they never try to strip their federal funding, their government subsidies or their tax breaks. but whether it comes to women's health, when it comes to women's health, the republicans' approach is completely different. republicans targeted planned parenthood which provides essential high-quality care to millions of american women, more than all of these companies combined. with no evidence of wrongdoing these republican investigations multiply in a political theater continues. this whole defunding fight is just a pretext for the real republican agenda. it is a pretext. take away the constitutional right of women and their doctors to decide what is best for them. i reject these same attacks on
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women's health. let me go on. now, miss richards, i want to -- again, i want to thank you for being here. and republicans accuse the planned parenthood of selling fetal tissue from abortions for profit. federal law explicitly allows for reimbursement of expenses for tissue samples. but republicans say that mr. de deliden's videos are proof that planned parenthood was making a profit. who is dr. deborah? >> she works for us in our medical division. >> i was going to show some clips but our friend's had some problems. i want to just do some quotes from some of the stuff that mr. deliden left on the cutting floor when he was working with the tapes.
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dr. deborah said, and i quote, to them, this is not a service they should be making money for." that's what was left on the floor. she said, also, "no, no one's going to see this as a money making thing." she went on to say, "we're not looking to make money from this. our goal is to keep access available." another quote that was left on the cutting room floor, "we really just wanted to be reasonable for the impact it has on the clinic. this is not something -- this isn't a new revenue stream that affiliates are looking at. this is a way to offer patients a service that they want, do good for the medical community and still maintain access at the end of the day." she went on to say -- another piece on the cutting room floor. this is on the floor. "are there affiliates that would just donate the tissue for free
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or --" and then there is noer one. i'll end with this one. dr. deck bborah said -- >> while we're watching the congressman speak and waiting for miss richards to speak a little further, on this hearing, i want to show you new video just in to t"the rundown" of th meeting between president obama and cuba's raul castro. there you see images of that meeting which i understand last only for a couple of seconds but here is the video and the photo-op of these two leaders meeting here in new york city. president obama and the leader of cuba raul castro. there are going to be meetings between the two and this is a second meeting the two have face to face since last december's
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announcement that cuba and the united states will restore diplomatic relations. that wraps up "the rundown" on msnbc. thank you for the privilege of your time. coverage of this heated house hearing continues on "news nation" with tamron hall. see you here tomorrow. when broker chris hill stays at laquinta he fires up the free wifi, with a network that's now up to 5 times faster than before! so he can rapidly prepare his presentation. and when he perfects his pitch, do you know what chris can do? and that is my recommendation. let's see if he's ready. he can swim with the sharks!
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and stay awake during the day. this is called non-24. learn more by calling 844-824-2424. or visit good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. we're following big breaking news from capitol hill, the fight over funding for planned parenthood has come to a head right now where lawmakers are questioning the organization's president, cecile richards. republicans on the house oversight committee are pressing richards on planned parenthood's use of fish u from aborted fetuses, this after the release of undercover videos by anti-abortion activists this summer. richards strongly denied the claim made by the activists accusing planned parenthood of illegally selling tissue from aborted fetuses for profit and has maintained those videos were
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heavily edited. >> planned parenthood has been in the news recently because of deceptively edited videos released by a group that's dedicated to making abortion illegal in this country and this is just the most recent in a long line of discredited attacks. the latest smear campaign is based on efforts by our opponents to entrap our doctors and clinicians into breaking the law and once again our opponents failed. the outrageous accusations leveled against planned parenthood based on heavily doctored videos are offensive and categorically untrue. >> we want to take you back to the hearing right now to listen in to more of what the head of planned parenthood has to say. >> -- we have programs in latin america and in africa as well, we support family planning programs. so i can certainly -- i think we have provided very detailed information, thousands of pages of both our financial


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