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of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid. good day. i'm kate snow. we begin this hour with breaking news out of the state of georgia where pope francis intervened today on behalf of the only woman on the state's death row and that appeal failed despite the letter of the pontiff, she is still set to be executed in less than four hours after the parole board just denied clemency. gabe gutierrez is live outside the state prison in west jackson, georgia. gabe, kelly gissendaner was convicted for planning her husband's murder 18 years ago and convincing her lover to carry it out and now this.
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>> reporter: that's right. as you mentioned, that parole board handing down the decision to allow the decision to stand and deny the decision of february. they reconsidered it today. but they are letting that decision stand so she is still scheduled to be executed here at this prison in jackson, georgia, at 7:00 tonight. but as you mentioned, it was a dramatic day at the parole hearing. pope francis, atlanta archbishop, the archbishop of atlanta wrote a letter on behalf of pope francis asking the parole board to commute her sentence and to perhaps issue in the letters words a sentence of more justice and mercy. however, parole board decided not to follow that. also, and three grown children, her three children testified in that hearing saying she is a
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model inmate and still her family is split on this. the relatives of her husband doug they say that she -- it was -- he was targeted by her and that she deserves to pay for what she did and urge the parole board in the to commute the sentence. they have several options. they could have done is delay the execution for up to 90 days, commuted the sentence to life in prison without the possibility of parole. or they can deny the clemency and what they did and again she is scheduled to be executed here by lethal enjex at 7:00 tonight. >> okay. gabe gutierrez, keeping an eye on all of that, thank you so much. we'll check back with you later. from georgia to the nation's capital and fireworks erupted today in the fight over planned parenthood funding. all afternoon, we have been watching this contentious hearing before the house overnight committee. planned parenthood president richards defending the organization over federal dollars it receives for women's health care. the hearing contentious from the
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outset and republican chairman grilling her on whether they use political dollars. >> be a private entity but you don't need federal dollars to do this. >> i don't. >> you do to run the organization. planned parenthood -- >> excuse me. >> planned parenthood has ginn -- planned parenthood action fund more than $22 million. to exercise -- to involve in their lobbying expenditures and advocac advocacy. >> it's not federal dollars. >> remember this all started this summer when a conservative released edited videos showing planned parenthood officials discussing donation of fetal tissue, the timing of the hearing now is no accident. the testimony comes the same day both houses of congress consider bills to keep the government open through december, a bill that now includes funding for planned parenthood over the
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objection of many conservative lawmakers. joining me now nbc news capitol hill krobt kelly o'connell. this is a spirited hearing all day long. where are we at now? i believe the hearing ended. right? >> reporter: still going. there are more questions than answers and it's a long time in the hot seat for the ceo of planned parenthood and she is able to withstand those tough questions and she's had democrats rally to her side at a few times where there have been suggestions of maybe the republicans being too tough on her. richards did not think that the questioning was too tough. she has been hanging in there sort to speak. basically, this is coming down to a new couple of facts. videos you referenced and the timing of the budget that is bringing back a very long-term dispute between democrats and republicans over abortion services, federal funding and what the government should do in terms of its role with a group like planned parenthood. there are, of course, lobbying
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activities for an arm of planned parenthood and explained most of the money that goes to planned parenthood organizations, the clinics and so forth around the country, comes from medicaid where low-income women resef services and then dollars reimburse the clinics for that. this is so emotional and so intense, there's been a lot of kind of ran kor of the parties and deeply held views and disagreements and so what we expect to see happen outside of this hearing is that government funding which will include money for planned parenthood will be passed for the short term, getting us to about december for current funding and this argument over the place of federal dollars for a group like planned parenthood will continue as an ongoing issue with hearings like this and different debates over how if at all funding should change for this group. kate? >> okay. kelly, keeping an eye on all of that on capitol hill, thanks so
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much. let's turn to today's testimony as we have been talking about from planned parenthood and the president focusing on the approximately $500 million in federal funding they receive every year. she was interrupted often as we have been talking about before she could answer the question. let's take a listen to this exchange of richards and republican congressman jim jordan. >> why did you apologize? >> congressman, first, i think everyone has agreed they were heavily edited and that certainly i think -- >> my question is -- my question is why did you apologize? >> in my opinion, in my opinion. >> okay. but that's not what you said. >> days later that we were -- >> which true statement. >> and so. excuse me. i was apologizing for the -- what was said in a non-clinical setting in a nonappropriate way and i don't believe -- >> you can't have it both ways. >> we may just have to agree to disagree. on this matter. >> i don't think we are agreeing
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to disagree. i don't think you're answering my question. >> i think i have answered it repeatedly here. >> joining me now is republican congressman from arizona trent franks who opposes federal funding for planned parenthood. thank you for being with us. >> thanks for the invitation. >> we played a bit of the sound to give the viewers a sense of the color of the room, a sense of how much back and forth there was. a lot of animosity playing out at the hearing. why did republicans want her up on capitol hill? what's the point? >> well, i think really the bottom line is we have to ask ourselves why is there such animosity? why is this an intense issue and americans so divided on it? does abortion kill a little baby? if it does not, there's no debate. but if abortion really does kill a child, one thing the videos demonstrated incontra vert bring. they let us see behind the walls of planned parenthood and the death and torturous
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dismemberment of these little children. and that creates controversy. those that can hide themselves from that fact and rationalize it away unfortunately to take rank with the people who have done it in the past and general sides occur and those of us committed to protecting children cannot turn a blind eye to that so consequently there's the reason for the rancor. >> let's play devil's advocate because ms. richards would say abortion is a small percentage of the work they do. and we have a new nbc news/"wall street journal" showing 61% of americans oppose limiting planned parenthood funding because many people believe they're doing good work, helping women with all kinds of health care issues. what do you say to that? >> well, obviously, planned parenthood has done an amazing job using a lot of taxpayer dollars to sell their image but the truth is that the abortion process and the abortion services have gone steadily upward and the other services gone down. here's the bottom line.
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our proposal simply says rather than giving the money to planned parenthood, why don't we give it to the other organization that is do exactly the same work that planned parenthood says is good and don't kill children routinely? i think the american people would be with us on that and the bottom line is even if they're not, as someone that sees when's happening here, is it really america to fund an organization that routinely dismembers and kills pain capable little babies? is that who we are as a nation? i just don't think it is. and i understand why planned parenthood attacks the validity of the videos because they know that that's the only hope they have because the people see the videos, they can see right through all of the false arguments of planned parenthood and they have to attack the credibility of them but there's a group gone through and forensically shown they're ow
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thentic. if people look at for themselves, maybe in a nursing home and talk to their children and say where were you when america was killing a baby, they would have an answer. >> they would say it's fetal tissue. not baby that is are -- organs donated and those videos were heavily edited. let me move you on, though -- >> but that would be untrue, however. what would be untrue. you can say that because they have no choice. >> let me ask you about what's happening tomorrow. government funding bill. it looks like john boehner has a deal now where you can continue to fund the government past tomorrow at midnight. will you vote against that? >> i'll have to vote against it. let's suggest that the real issue is not how john boehner had to do this and it's a best kept secret in america. the real issue is, democrats in the senate will not even allow a vote, a fair vote, on the issue. they use a filibuster and abuse it and we never get a vote on
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these things and right now the house has to pursue a method to circumvent the filibuster and that's reconciliation. i hope it works because i truly believe that when you consider what planned parenthood does, that the sands of time should blow over this capitol dome before we give them one more time of taxpayer dollars. >> does it come back now with the new speaker? do you expect this issue to rear up again? >> i think so. you know, this country, the last issue that tore us apart like this was slavery and it was those same argument. those for it said there's no person involved here. the supreme court said the same thing. just like they did in roe versus wade. but there were those who understood that the foundational core principle believes we are created and equal and protect the most innocent among us and the greatest test of who we are is how we treat those that cannot defend themselves and no one more defenseless in all of
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humanity than the defenseless, little, unborn children. >> thank you so much for your time. >> thank you, kate. thank you very much. >> thank you. strong views from the congressman. we had a plan to have a democratic congresswoman with us, as well. and just waiting for her to get over to the camera position and speaking with her, as well. let's move to the campaign trail for a moment because the fight over planned parenthood funding has also been front and center there. leading the charge, republican carly fiorina who's made it a central issue of her campaign, most noticeably the last cnn debate describing a graphic scene of an undercover video produced by an anti-abortion group and prompted this exchange with chuck todd on "meet the press." >> there is no evidence that the scene you described exists. are you willing now to concede that you exaggerated that scene? >> no. not at all. that scene absolutely does exist. >> the footage you described at best is a reenactment. the videos even, the people that
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made it said it's stock footage. you said it's planned parenthood. >> chuck, chuck, chuck, chuck, do you think this is not happening? >> at this hour, fiorina is holding a town hall meeting on energy in oklahoma city. i'm joined by halle jackson traveling with carly fiorina. this is such an explosive issue on capitol hill, very strong emotions coming out. has she addressed it today? she's made it a regular talking point in campaign events. >> reporter: yeah. it is key to the campaign so far and she was running late to this event in oklahoma city at this petroleum association and seen this again and again from carly fiorina. this really full throated attack on planned parenthood such a central theme to the candidacy and visited a pregnancy center in south carolina last week. an ultrasound with the woman and she received support of the folks attending there for what they believe is standing up and
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fighting for what they want to see. you know that there's that new nbc news poll, latest poll showing that planned parenthood is actually one of the most popular institutions, the most popular institution in our poll. that said, fiorina is betting that the conservative base, conservative women, will work with her on this, relate to her for standing up and fighting against this -- fighting in this abortion debate and i should also note that 65% of americans have heard something about planned parenthood. these videos, they have read a lot or some about it. that said, it seems to be a conversation that's happening potentially on the right. fiorina is tapping into that, kate. >> let's take a listen here halle to something that happened today. fiorina for tough criticism of former opponent in california. take a listen to what she had to say on msnbc. >> it is terrible to see a woman, the only woman running for president, attack planned
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parenthood that helps so many millions of women. it's a sad day, but it's the way it is. not all women are going to fight for women. carly fiorina does not. she fights for herself and she'll say almost anything to get elected. >> so give me the counter point to that. what would the campaign say back? >> reporter: right. not just what the campaign would say, kate, but what we have heard out of carly fiorina's mouth, a strong pushback against the idea a woman running on the republican side for the presidency that the candidacy offensive to women. she says these women don't agree with me. she was in "people" magazine talking about this. people can disagree on issues but can still respect each other, particularly coming to the women in this race. >> halle jackson, thanks so much. i want to bring in democratic congresswoman from california, yak i can spear supporting federal funding for planned parenthood. thank you for being with us. >> my pleasure, kate.
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>> this is such an emotionally heated issue. cecile richards is cut off, interrupted and was on the verge of tears at one point s. this all political theater? >> a lot of it is political theater. i served on the overnight and government reform committee for a number of years and the same actors on the republican side turn into bullies and they don't let witnesses finish their answers or even answer at the beginning. they're oftentimes pontificating with whatever speech. we do disagree. people on the right, people on the left that don't agree and doesn't mean you tell lies. that doesn't mean you bludgeon people. the truth of the matter is that planned parenthood funding in this country by the federal government does not go for abortions. pure and simple. it is outlawed. the only money -- sorry. >> go ahead. >> the only money going to planned parenthood is for the health screening that women
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need. breast cancer screenings, to have screenings for uterine cancer. it's all about trying to protect the health of a woman. and when you have figures that reach 86,000, this's how many in a year planned parenthood will actually provide services to that will be detected to have cancer and to think that they're saving those lives, how can we say no to that? >> let me just ask you one quick question. so many things brought up by the republican completion. today accuse the group of spending lavishly on travel, political activities, they asked ms. richards about her salary. does planned parenthood overspend using taxpayer dollars? >> i can't believe for one moment that they overspend. cecile richards is a prudent woman, also very smart and very courageous and i'm happy to look at the books and make an evaluation but, you know,
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they're a nonprofit. subject so great scrutiny and because they're planned parenthood, they're under the microscope so this is just theater. pure and simple. and to somehow challenge her salary when so many of the other quote not for profits, karl rove included, are making lavish salaries, i don't think that they have room to question. >> democratic congresswoman jackie spear, thank you for being with us today. >> thank you for the invitation. big headlines out of an even bigg bigger meetings at the u.n.. president obama with raul castro after meeting with putin last night. plus, a u.n. summit on the fight against isis on the very day a congressional task force putts out a scathing report saying the u.s. is losing the struggle to stop americans from joining isis. and tropical storm joaquin is developing on the atlantic ocean. will it make landfall? al roker is here to track it. 73% of americans try...
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president obama spent his morning here at new york at a u.n. summit focused on countering isis and violent extremism around the world and focused on countering the isis ideology and stopping online recruiting efforts. the president saying that's a priority. >> it is not going to be enough to defeat isil in the battlefield. we have to prevent it from radicalizing, recruiting and inspiring others to violence in the first place. and this means defending their ideology. we are stepping up our efforts to discredit the propaganda especially online. exposing isil for what it is which is a band of terrorists that kills innocent muslim men,
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women and children. we're working to lift up the voices of muslim scholars, clerics and others including defectors. >> but just after the president spoke a bipartisan congressional task force dropped a highly critical report saying the united states is failing to stop americans from traveling abroad to join isis. let's bring in nbc news chief foreign affairs correspondent andrea mitchell and foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin. thank you for being here. your head must be spinning. been a busy day, andrea. this report just released, let's quote from it. the joint task force of congress saying of the hundreds of americans who sought to travel to the battlefield in syria several dozen have also managed to make it back into america after traveling overseas. >> exactly. >> this is -- we said scathing. i mean, this is exactly what
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critics of obama are saying is not working. >> and the fact is this is the second annual summit, just a year ago the president was projecting that we could stop this problem and again we haven't stopped it. not only that, but now twice as many last year. 15,000 recruits. now it's 30,000 recruits. including 250 americans, they're talking about recruits of 100 countries. last anytime it was 80 countries and so in the last year more americans, twice as many recruits, despite all of the air strikes. >> and ayman, you can't really counter, you know, anybody can go online right now and find an insurgent website, an isis propaganda right there. how do they eliminate this issue? >> yeah. i have spoken to law enforcement officials here in the u.s. and struggling to combat it on two fronts. one, trying to reach the communities. i spent sometime in minneapolis talking to a lot of community out there as well as the u.s. attorney's office and trying some pilot programs to try to
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prevent young somali men lured in to this web if you will of recruitment but you're right. their biggest challenge is finding these little places on the internet, these new application that is are difficult for the u.s. intelligence community even to identify and penetrate because they're constantly evolving and updating and knock one down and another pops up immediately after. it's a whack-a-mole game for folks online and that's proven harder for u.s. officials than they thought. >> andrea, you spoke with the chairman of the committee putting out a report earlier. mike mccall. will it's listen to the clip from your show. >> this is a bipartisan report. the facts are the facts. and the fact is we're losing in this fight against isis. the foreign fighter travel to the region has inl creased greatly. 30,000 foreign fighters, 5,000 western passports. hundreds of americans have
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traveled there. many have come back and so the threat to the homeland is real and not only from foreign fighter travel but radicalization over the internet and so what we don't have is a strategy. >> picking up on what ayman was just saying, what do lawmakers do? what does congress do? what does the president do? anything we can do? >> in fact, the treasury today sanctioned isis. that sounds ridiculous. how do you sanction a terror group. you sanction nations, you know, russia but they can, they believe, go after some of the oil and gas supply that is are helping to finance this. but it is a very difficult process. of course, vladimir putin's solution is, you know, have assad build up assad and have him go after that. there's no evidence he's going after isis. the american response is he's going after the civilians. russians say isis marches into
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damascus and the nations are at logger heads. >> there's a shocking report of lack of progress of the u.s. being able to make inroads with forces on the ground in syria. rebel forces to try to help us, the u.s., and the coalition,hillhill responded to this yesterday. >> we have a report this week startling. there are four or five, not 400 or 500, 4 or 5 rebels that we have trained with american military help and american might that are still there fighting the fight. this is a failure of policy, isn't it? >> well, it is. >> i went -- >> i saw the original briefing on capitol hill with the general, head of cent-com and he himself was also a little bit reluctant and does highlight the kind of underlying problem which is the u.s. is in a predicament they don't want to give them
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heavy weaponry because those weapons more and more falling into the hands of isis and the iraqi military and american hum vooes and heavy weaponry in the hands of isis. at the same time, the u.s. and allies not providing air support to help on the ground and what happens even if the u.s. is training however many hundreds. >> or four or five. >> barrel bombed by the assad regime and killed by the thousands. not losing to isis. they're losing to the assad regime relying on air power at this stage. >> they're arguing you're there to go after isis, not assad. we're not trying to change the regime by military force on the ground and they're saying, but assad is killing my people, my family. my neighborhood. i want -- if you're going to arm me, i go after assad. they refuse to sign the both to only go after isis and that's partly why they only -- cost half a billion dollars to get those four or five. >> one last quick question. putin and obama last night. did we get any readout?
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>> yeah. quite a lot from people. putin went on camera briefing the kremlin press and they said it was business-like, constructive. that they dealt with issues. they disagree over assad and agree isis is profound problem facing them and trying to work together. >> end on maybe a somewhat positive note. at least they're talking. >> a little bit. >> thank you so much, ayman, andrea. >> good to be here. >> great to have you. a georgia woman set to be executed in less than four hours. on death row. denied clemency. this despite a letter pope francis just sent asking to spare her life. we have that coming up. also, a tropical storm taking aim at the u.s. stick around. (vo) what does the world run on? it runs on optimism. it's what sparks ideas. moves the world forward. invest with those who see the world as unstoppable.
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is set to execute an inmate. let's check back in with nbc's gabe gutierrez in jackson, georgia. gabe, an espy copal priest, a friend, addressed the press saying, quote, this decision will not bring healing. tell me what's happening where you are right now as this 7:00 p.m. execution approaches. >> reporter: well, that's right, kate. this is where that execution is set to take place in a few hours and as you mentioned this is very emotional time here in georgia and especially for the three adult children of kelly gissendaner. she's supposed -- those three children, they testified in front of that parole board and they begged for her life to be spared. they said that she had turned her life around and that she had been a model inmate and should not be executed but that parole board disagreeing letting the decision from february stand. now, as you mentioned, there was a letter written on behalf of
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pope francis by the archbishop of atlanta saying, quote, while not wishing to minimize the gravity of the crime for which ms. gissendaner is convicted and while sympathizing with the victims, i nonetheless implore you to commute the sentence to one to better express justice and mercy. kate, so right now, her family, the three children, very emotionally right now and getting ready for the excuse tonight at 7:00. >> how did we get to this point where a life and death decision is made hours before the execution? >> reporter: well, kate, this has been a very long process. there have been many appeals filed. in february, again, that parole board declined clemency and there had been -- this is a third appeal by lawyers and this is a very long process. went all the way up to the supreme court who in -- which in
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2014 denied this. they said that they had supp supplemental information. the family members were allowed to testify today and the board disagreed. kate? >> gabe gutierrez in georgia, thank you so much. tax experts crunch the numbers on donald trump's plan and what they found might surprise you. bill clinton goes on attack against republicans. is he stepping up the role in hillary clinton's campaign? stay with us. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ because at&t and directv are now one!
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one-time levy on u.s. profits. >> they're wrong bringing in at least $2.5 trillion is stuck outside of this country. $2.5 trillion. the number could be much, much higher. companies can't get the money brought back into the country. one of many things and that money now will be able to flow back in under my plan. >> trump was also asked about his lead in the polls which shrunk since the last gop debate. >> this is going to be an ebb and flow. i'm not saying -- how can i continue to lead by such wide margins? >> right. >> her's the ebb and flow. i'm leading every single poll and most of them by a substantial number. now, can i keep that going? i have no idea. if i think for some reason it is not going to work then i'd go back to my business. no question about that. right now, i think it is working very, very well. >> little later on, trump tweeted out a message to rand paul supporters saying i hope he is at 1%, the supporters come
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over to me. i'll do a much better job for them. joining me on set, katy tur covering the trump campaign. good to see you. >> you, too. >> let's start with the tax plan. a lot of experts have been kind of running the numbers, krumpbling the numbers. calling it saying it doesn't add up. conservative tax foundation released a report today saying it costs $12 trillion over 10 years, would not be deficit neutral as the trump campaign said. how's the campaign pushing back against that? because this is coming from a conservative voice. >> it is a conservative voice an i'll say across the spectrum conservative and liberal voices saying it benefit it is wealthy, perhaps more so than the middle class or the poor but trump said that the tax foundation is wildly off the mark and ignoring the pay forwards especially with comparing it to jeb bush's plan. this plan is more than three times as much as jeb bush's plan according to to the tax
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foundation. but the trump campaign is hoping right now that the headline of trump cuts taxes or eliminates taxes for millions of people is the one that will play on the campaign trail that will play with his potential voters. so far, though, the headlines are that this tax plan does benefit the wealthy quite a bit. >> you say pay fors. the way to pay for the tax cuts? >> exactly. they're going to get rid of deductions and loopholes allowing people to pay less tax. >> and part of what he was touching on in the "today" show and money overseas to bring back. he also according to the tax foundation, the plan we mentioned this earlier is three times as costly as jeb bush and marco rubio's plans so how is that playing? is this becoming a campaign issue? >> i think jeb and rubio both trying to make this a campaign issue and use it as an opportunity to contrast themselves and this is one of the things that campaigns
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struggle with. do they get into the details? and if they do, will they show weakness? both jeb and rubio's campaign have hard numbers to go after trump with, not just rhetoric and them saying that he's not fit to be president. they can say his tax plan does not work. then again, the tax foundation is not saying their tax plans work either. >> donald trump also asked about what happens if he starts to lose ground even -- lose a lot more ground and have sort of less and less support and he actually said, i would get out of the race if it came to that. >> that's consistent with what he's been saying and said so long as he's leading in the polls, getting a lot of support, and making a difference out there, he will stay in this race but if he drops down to where he says rand paul is, 1% or even lower, then he would get out and speaking to the campaign they have no plans of getting out of the race. when i asked potentially to drop out, they look at me and they
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say, we have no intention of getting out ever. we'll be at the conventions. what if you're not the nominee? we will be at the conventions. that is their response. they're going full speed ahead. no plans of slowing down. >> well, he still is as much as we're following the horse race, he is loading. >> he is at the top, yep. >> thank you. >> thank you. coming up, look at this. it is the one, the only, al roker. hi, al. tracking tropical storm joaquin. he joins us after the break. when it helps give a lifesaving vaccine to a child in need in a developing country. thanks to customers like you, walgreens "get a shot. give a shot." program has helped provide seven million vaccines. make your flu shot make a world of difference. walgreens. at the corner of happy and healthy.
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>> i think you should be concerned because it's actually a one-two punch. before we get to joaquin, we have a good system with a lot of moisture. there's a cold front pushing. see the leading edge of it right there pushing to the east and as it does wringing out this moisture and in fact national weather service up and down the eastern seaboard, 19 million people under a flash flood watch or a flash flood warning as they are in southern virginia. so here's what we are looking at. next three days, before joaquin is involved, generally one to two inches but some areas up to three inches. especially up around the spine of the mountains there, the appalachians, the alleghenies and that lift and squeezes out more moisture. the latest on joaquin, this is getting interesting because there's a hurricanes hunters in there right now and we'll see if there is some strengthening. 425 miles east-northeast of bahamas. moving west at 5 miles per hour.
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here's the track of the system. it's going to move steadily west and then slow down, hang out just east of the bahamas and then according to this track take it up the coast. there's a 520-mile wide what we call cone of uncertainty, kate. it's still the east coast is in play. now, let's take a look at the models. different modeling we look at. look at the variety of these different models. what we call spaghetti strings all the way 650-mile width between the different model runs, some right over southern new jersey, others into the delmarva peninsula. look at the rainfall for the next three days, add in joaquin's moisture and we are talking 5 to 8 inches of rain, some areas may squeeze out up to a foot by sunday. so that's the big concern. >> we're talking flooding potentially. >> we're in a drought right now in the northeast but we don't need all this rain all at once. gets rid of the drought and what it leaves behind could be a real
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turning to the democratic race for president, more bad news for hillary clinton. the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll finds her favorablity under water, with 47% seeing her negatively. the same poll also finds joe biden performing better than clinton in hypothetical match-ups with leading republican candidates. against this backdrop comes news that former president bill clinton is ready to take on a more active role in his wife's campaign, headlining a series of fund raisers and party events across the country. joining me now, kristin welker here for the day.
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great to see you. >> secretary clinton has been on a fund-raising blitz, to make the point that she's still the strong democratic front-runner, and it comes as you say as her husband, former president bill clinton is ramping up his engagement in her campaign. >> no stranger to surviving controversy, bill clinton is on the attack this week. >> it really is similar to the strategy that the republicans employed against me with white water. >> the former president is taking a page from his old playbook. pointing the finger at the gop. >> in the way that -- >> reporter: during an interview with cnbc, he blamed republicans for overhyping his wife's use of a personal e-mail account when she was secretary of state. >> they look at the field and they say, who do we not want to run against? and then they dribble out stuff and they attack. >> reporter: now bill clinton will start to ramp up his engagement on the trail. he's set to attend several fund
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raisers in the coming week, including in atlanta, missouri, and michigan. at each spot, he'll try to reassure jittery democrats his wife is still the candidate to beat. >> i'm glad it happened in 2015 instead of 2016, and i believe it will burn itself out. >> reporter: and while their clinton's attacks against republicans won't go away, he refused to engage donald trump, despite trump's constant jumps. >> he was very nice to me when i got out of the white house and he wanted hillary to come to his wedding. >> reporter: and while bill clinton could be a powerful surrogate for his wife in the coming months, she's not prepared to say whether he'll follow her if she makes it all the way to the white house. >> he'll have a west wing office if you get there. >> he's a pretty busy guy, but i'm not counting my chickens before they hatch. >> we talk about the poll
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numbers, here are some more concerning poll numbers. when you match her up with some of the republican candidates, donald trump, she beats him. but look what happens against jeff bush, 45-44. ben carson, 45-46. 44-45 against fiorina. and vice president biden, the wild card in this race, does better against a lot of the top gop contenders. >> we were just chatting beforehand about bill clinton. it seems like deja vu all over again. like 2008, i covered the campaign back then and i remember that moment when they said we're going to bring out bill clinton, he's going to do more events and get involved. and he took some heat for some of what he did on the campaign trail. >> you hit the nail on the head. i think that he has to walk a fine line. the campaign wants him to walk a fine line. remember, this was hillary clinton's moment to reintroduce herself to voters. bringing bill clinton out this early has some risks associated with it. and as you say, in 2008, there were some missteps on the trail.
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so they're going to want him to be very careful. at the same time, he is known as one of the best campaigners in the country. so they think that he's a very powerful surrogate. by the way, he's taking that page from his old playbook to weather the storm. it's a message to some is of their supporters to say, we're going to weather the storm as well. >> great to have you here. >> thanks, kate. coming up, the latest on the execution of a georgia woman denied a last minute clemency by the pope. and fire white sox on capitol hill ov -- fireworks on the hill over funding for planned parnd parenthood. and a meeting with raul castro, we're live at the u.n. after this. home don't stick around. castro, we're live at the u.n. after this. no one kills germs better than clorox.
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and clemency denied. a georgia woman convicted of plotting to kill her husband will be executed in about three hours from now, despite a plea from the pope himself to save her life. we begin this hour with that nasty fight that has dominated the day on capitol hill. for most of the day, planned parenthood president defended the organization over federal dollars it receives for women's health care. the hearing was contentious from the outset. here's one exchange. >> i'd say we are the most highly regulated organization probably in this country -- >> i would disagree with that. >> but we're very transparent about our numbers. >> i've got this for one of your affiliates. will you provide this same kind of documentation for all your affiliates to this committee? >> joining me now, nbc news capitol hill producer frank thorpe. so many fireworks


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