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i will not give him the credit he probably sought prior to this horrific and cowardly act. >> right now on andrea mitchell reports, mass shooting. it has happened again in america. this time on the campus of a community college in oregon. the gunman and nine people, students and a faculty member, are dead. president obama angry and frustrated over congress' refusal to pass gun laws. >> somehow this has become routine. the reporting is routine. my response here at this podium ends up being routine. the conversation in the aftermath of it, we've become numb to this.
good day. i am andrea mitchell in washington with the latest details on yet another mass shooting in america. the country's 45th school shooting this year alone. the community in roseburg, oregon is in shock and grief today. the rest of us are wondering what can be done about gun violence. our team is in place with the latest from roseburg. msnbc's thomas roberts is just outside the campus at umpqua community college. nbc's jacob rascon outside mercy medical center where victims are still being treated. thomas, you have been there talking to victims, bring us up to date. >> reporter: andrea, we are coming roughly to the 24 hour mark when campus went on lockdown after the assailant, shooter, came on campus with the intent to kill. nine people lost their lives. this is the local paper today where it says campus horror. we are only as close as the entrance to umpqua community college here at the base of the
hill. this is an active crime scene behind me. the students who were on campus for the first week of fall semester, some of which were only freshmen, were absolutely shocked when they realized that they were actually part of a school shooting and didn't know whether they should fly or fight or hide. take a listen. >> i think honestly the best thing i did was to run from the scene. >> was to run. >> i ran the opposite direction of where the shooter was. if i took a right instead of going left, i probably would have been in the middle of it. >> you're a freshman, only your fourth day. talk about this community which you're also new to. talk about the campus, the people, what you were impressed by, why you wanted to go here. >> basically i honestly, it is a beautiful campus, it's a great place. i felt safe. it was amazing. it was a first great three days there. fourth day this happens and i
never would have thought something like this would happen. >> reporter: so this is supposed to be the first friday of the new fall semester, first week of school. it is closed today, an active crime scene. andrea, they don't expect to have college campus back open until monday. in the next hour, we expect to get an update from the douglas county sheriff, john hanlin. >> thomas, thank you very much. we will go back to you and will be carrying that live, and jacob rascon is at mercy medical. jacob, tell me about the victims and their condition. >> reporter: andrea, we are three miles away from where thomas is. we are at mercy medical. ten wounded, one passed away, several others were transported to another hospital with more serious injuries. if there's any good news in all of this, out of all of those complicated, serious injuries, there was only one person left in critical condition.
everybody else is expected to survive. among the survivors, one of whom we believe is here, is chris mintz. he has been hailed as a hero by many, an army vet. the story goes his aunt told nbc news last night that he charged the shooter yesterday. in all of the chaos as the shooter was going classroom to classroom this person decided he would do something about it and rush the shooter, and he was shot many times, and he is here, we believe, but he is as we said expected to survive. recently there was a post on what we believe is his facebook page from a friend that reads like this. this is chris' friend, chris asked me to thank everyone for their support. he is grateful and keeping our community and all victims in his thoughts. as i said, we're about three miles away from the college campus. that college, the only one in this city of about 22,000 people. as you'll maybe hear later, the
students there were anywhere from high school age up to students in their 50s and 60s, a horrific scene as people pick up the pieces, and they're still here, three wounded at this hospital, one expected to be going home today, andrea? >> jacob, thank you so much. again another report of an american, a witness coming and helping others, chris mintz. we'll have more on that as we proceed. joining me now as we talk about what happened last night, the victims of the tragedy, the close knit community coming together to talk about what had happened and to comfort each other are right now chris boyce joins me, county commissioner. thank you for being with us. we're watching this community and just graefg with you. tell me more about douglas county and how people responded
in this true emergency. >> we're a very close knit community in rural oregon of course. we have tremendous amount of support from anyone in the community. a tight knit as a small community and as a community now as a whole, we're all grieving. the community has pulled together. the candlelight vigil that was held last night was obviously a good indicator of that. it is an honor to serve the people in this community because of how much they do care for each other in situations like this. >> can you tell us anything more about the victims and their condition, the people that are hospitalized? >> you know, i don't know anything about that. obviously we've been extremely busy. i'm an elected administrator of the county so we've got a whole bunch of responsibilities along those lines, i haven't been able to keep up on the progress of treating the injured. there's just a whole bunch to
keep track of and i am not up to speed on that myself. >> from a law enforcement perspective, we know from all reports and we'll be talking to my colleague pete williams, that he was not a student. are there any procedures on campus that were not followed that you think need to be updated in terms of stranger walking onto campus in terms of bag checks? what do you think needs to be done? >> you know, that's a great question. obviously after a tragic situation like this we have an opportunity to go back and look at this scenario and replay it in our minds, hindsight being twenty ee twenty, learn from this experience, implement maybe new procedures. my understanding is we had drills in place, they were followed. we did lockdown the school. obviously the police officers responded rapidly. and this incident was contained to one classroom instead of
having the shooter go to multiple classrooms, and he was stopped very quickly, obviously not soon enough, but i think everyone on scene yesterday did a pretty good job. >> do they have an online alert system similar to the kinds of apps on their phones that have been added in many campuses after virginia tech? >> i don't know that. >> we can check that fact as well. as you pointed out, there was immediate response, there were two law enforcement officials who happened to be nearby. tell us about that. >> yeah. again, i'm not familiar with which law enforcement officers from which agencies responded in which order, but we do have a decent law enforcement presence here in our community. we're standing in front of roseburg city public safety center. my understanding is there were roseburg city officers who
engaged in that incident yesterday as well as county and state police, particular location of the college in relationship to the state police office as far as vicinity is very close. the state police office is just a mile or so down the road from the college, so there were several agencies in the vicinity and they all responded. >> and again, jacob rascon, our correspondent was just talking about the range, the wide range of age of the students, and that's the role of community college throughout the country. community colleges bring people just out of high school up through people returning for further education. what is the role of this community college and how important is it in your county? >> you know, it's very similar to what you just mentioned and it is very important. you know, we have high school kids who are also working on college degrees at the same time that maybe students out there as early as age 16 or 17, and we
also have dislocated workers from the timber industry and other folks who lost their jobs who are in mid life who are going there to be educated in a new field to pursue a new career. so there's a wide variety of folks who attend that college and it is a very integral part of education in the community. just happens so right now they're in the process of building a new nursing and science center out there. so that's going to bring in a whole new industry that we can train folks in our community for. >> county commissioner chris boyce, it is a terrible day there and i know you have a lot to do. thank you for taking time for us. i appreciate it. >> sure, my pleasure. >> nbc justice correspondent pete williams joins me now, he has been gathering information from all of the law enforcement agencies. we know some new details today, pete? >> andrea, the picture that's emerging of this gunman, chris harper mercer, is someone who
was profoundly emotionally troubled. despite that, he had several weapons in his possession. he had four or six that he carried to the school. the sheriff told us they found many more at his apartment. the atf is tracing to see where they came from. but we know that he took four, three handguns, one ar-15 assault rifle, wore a bulletproof vest, we believe. i think this is also interesting, andrea, he left behind several law enforcement officials told us a several page document in which he basically said that he had no life, that the world was against him, that he lamented the fact he had no girlfriend, officials say he wrote that he would be welcomed in hell, embraced by the devil. another official said he was
depressed, sullen, and that's the tone that comes through in this note. you know that the sheriff last night said he wouldn't give the name of the gunman, he didn't want to give him any additional attention. that may be in part because authorities say that he wrote a recent post on the internet after the shooting of the television reporter and photographer in which he said that he noticed that people who commit shootings get a lot of attention. andrea? >> pete, do we have any confirmation of what at least one victim and relative of a victim said that there was some religious message that he gave to the victims when he was shooting them, saying if you're a christian, i won't shoot you. do we know that that actually happened? >> well, the source of that information of course is from the people who were in the classroom and they've been telling law enforcement the same
thing they've been saying to us which is he asked what their religion was. and he had said in another internet posting that he was not a person who believed in organized religion, but at some point, andrea, trying to find a rational explanation is going to be elusive. >> i understand. pete, thank you. reporting from the teams on the ground all too familiar. coming up, we talk with two women, one that lost a sister, the other a mother in the massacre at sandy hook. and senator richard blumenthal is proposing new gun legislation today, background checks. hurricane joaquin, the storm is further out to sea, that doesn't mean the threat of severe weather is gone for the weekend. the latest forecast coming up. this is andrea mitchell reports, only on msnbc. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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we talked about this after columbine, blacksburg, after tucson, after newtown, after aurora, after charleston. it cannot be this easy for somebody that wants to inflict harm on other people to get his or her hands on a gun. and what's become routine, of course, is the response of those who oppose any kind of common sense gun legislation. >> the debate over gun laws intensified after the terrible tragedy at sandy hook elementary in december of 2012 when a very disturbed young man walked into that school and opened fire killing 26 people. 20 of them small children. joining me now are family members of two of the sandy hook vems, erica lafr tee whose mother was the principal at
sandy hook. and jillian soto whose sister died protecting her students from gunfire. welcome to both of you. you have both been brave advocates for doing something about this. erica, all these years later, three years later, how is it possible our political leaders have done nothing? >> it's absolutely disgusting to see their inaction. it was heart breaking and sickening to see congress refuse to pass such a common sense background check bill in 2013, but we definitely have seen progress in the states over the past couple of years. we've seen background checks since sandy hook in six states, passed background checks in six states, had additional victories, domestic violence billions and pushing back against bad gun laws. so unfortunately congress is doing nothing on the federal level but we absolutely are
boots on the ground in the states doing absolutely everything we can to protect americans and fight back against the gun lobby. >> jillian, that said, oregon has good laws but as long as people can buy weapons without proving their mental capability to use weapons properly something like this is going to keep happening. >> all you can do is continue to fight back, continue to make sensible gun laws and ask for everyone to stand together and do something about it and vote out congress members who are against common sense gun laws and make a change in the way we run this nation. >> erica, when this happened yesterday, when these continued mass shootings happen, does it bring back everything about sandy hook and obviously your mother? >> absolutely, especially
yesterday's shooting. the picture that's on the screen now is so familiar to small children that were guided out of sandy hook elementary hand in hand. we've seen over and over again the aerial view of the parking lot, just the same as we saw on december 14th, 2012. i heard a woman yesterday report of someone else in one of the ucc buildings that helped shooters stay put. i immediately flashed back to find out those exact words were my mom's last words. >> tell me about your sister. >> vicki was an amazing person. it was really heart breaking not to have her here. i will do whatever i have to, stand up every day and fight for change so no other family has to become a part of this group of
people who are effected by gun violence. no other family should have to feel this pain, it is a pain that doesn't ever go away and until we stand up and do something about it, it is going to continue to happen and we need to vote out congress members who aren't standing up for us, who don't believe there's a problem when it comes to gun violence. >> i know this cannot be easy for you, i can't even imagine. thank you for joining us today to talk about it. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> and connecticut senator richard blumenthal has been fighting for new gun laws since the tragic events in newtown, connecticut. just today, senator, you're proposing new legislation to bar sales without background checks. explain how you hope to get this through when nothing else has worked. >> this latest horrific unspeakable tragedy will galvanize the congress, but more importantly galvanize the
american people to demand from congress it end its complicity, and it is really complicity, in these massacres and 30,000 deaths that occur every year. thank you for having these two brave young women because they bring back to me the memories of newtown. i was there on that day when 20 young children and six great educators lost their life like in oregon. my hope is we will strengthen the background check bill that exists now, the law provides for sales after 72 hours. permits those sales by federally licensed dealer if the background is complete. in the last five years, 15,729 ineligible buyers have gained access to weapons, including the shooter in charleston. we can close this loophole and
require that there be a background check for every gun that is sold. no check, no gun, no sale. and that's the basic principle. >> i was going to say the push back is that it is hard to write these laws because of privacy laws, because mental health, if someone has not been treated or has been treated, it becomes more difficult for that to show up on a background check because of privacy laws. >> good point. mental health is a major issue. we need to provide more resources, better treatment. you're absolutely right, andrea, that privacy laws are sometimes an obstacle, but the public record is a great source of information. if somebody has been convicted of a felony, if someone has a record of drug abuse, if someone for any other reason is ineligible to buy a handgun or any weapon under federal law, the background check should preclude the sale. by the way, background checks
should be applicable to all sales, private sales as well as federally licensed sale. there should be other forms like ban on illegal trafficking, straw purchases and investment in mental health because this deeply troubled person, and the president was absolutely right in his eloquent and powerful reference to his sickness of the mind, should have been prevented from having a gun. dangerous people should not have guns. law abiding folks have a right under the second amendment. >> this should be many people believe an issue for 2016 candidates. on the democratic side you've got two major declared candidates, hillary clinton and bernie sanders. you have martin o'malley, a couple other people running. hillary clinton came out very strongly yesterday. we know bernie sanders has not supported gun laws. he goes along with the -- he said and i have interviewed him
on this, what vermont people believe about the second amendment and guns. this is what ben carson and donald trump had to say from the republican perspective. >> obviously there are going to be those that are calling for gun control but, you know, that happens every time we have one of these incidents. obviously that's not the issue. the issue is the mentality of these people. >> donald, is it fair to say then your opinion is some people are going to slip through the tracks and there's not much you can do about it? >> well, you know, it is not politically correct to say that, but you're going to have difficulty and that will be for the next million years, you're going to have difficulty. people will slip through the cracks. even if you did great mental health programs, people will slip through the cracks. i'm sure it is going to be found this guy was probably, you know, they seem to be loners, they have all sorts of difficulties. they call people and nobody
wants to go out with them. you know, it is the same old story. >> senator, what do you say to the candidates who say you can't do anything about this and it is a mental health problem, not a gun problem? >> hold them accountable. by now, the american people overwhelmingly, 90% or more support common sense measures like background checks. members of congress who are complicit, who fail to support those kinds of measures who actively oppose them, presidential candidates likewise should be held accountable and should be asked in forums around the country, in town halls, whether they will support common sense measures like ban on illegal trafficking, or straw purchases, or background checks, and mental health measures that will provide the resources that are really necessary, not just because of the impacts in terms of gun violence but because we can make our country healthier,
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thrilled for the east coast of the united states not dealing with a hurricane this weekend, no one wants to deal with the destruction that comes with it, don't want to forget our friends in the bahamas still in the middle of one of the worst hurricanes in their history, compared to andrew and floyd. we're going to hear -- i hope it doesn't happen, don't be surprised if you hear about death totals as you find out information over the weekend. a category four over the islands almost 36 straight hours. let's show you the storm itself. it is not far from south florida. it is amazing because now we know where it is going, we don't seem to focus as much attention on it. it is about 130 miles per hour winds, pressure starting to rise, now it is beginning to slowly start to do the weakening process. here's the forecast cone, now heading north, northeast, should miss bermuda, should miss nova scotia. we will be done 12 to 24 hours
after it exits the bahamas. the other story is horrible flooding. we are going through high tide near norfolk, hampton roads. pictures on social media of water on roads, that's going to happen about five or six more high tide cycles, charleston to washington, watching a heavy rain threat, andrea. the computer is still pinpointing tomorrow heavy torrential tropical rains over south carolina, possibly up to charlotte. andrea, some areas getting 12 to 15 inches this weekend alone, that's going to cause big problems sunday through the beginning of next week on the rivers. >> wow. how far north is it going to go? stay with us through monday? >> heavy rain through the mid-atlantic and d.c. through tomorrow, then it ends. focus on south carolina and north carolina saturday, sunday. >> everyone there should be watching out. bill karins, thanks for the warnings. and the governor of north carolina declared a state of
emergency with every county under flood watch today. gabe gutierrez is joining me from kill devil hills, north carolina, right in the middle of it. my gosh, gabe, the surf since this morning when i was watching our colleagues there, dylan dreyer, it has really come up. >> reporter: hey there, andrea, good afternoon. we are in the outer banks. throughout the morning we've seen the wind start to really pick up. seen the surf pick up as well. now getting pelted with heavy rain. this is an area that's used to big storms and hurricanes but they're bracing for at least here four to seven inches of rain, as bill mentioned, they're expecting more in other parts of the state. water rescue teams are being prepared in raleigh and charlotte is bracing for heavy rains over the next few days. there have been two weather related fatalities because of the storm, unrelated to joaquin. they happened in spartanburg, south carolina yesterday and near fayetteville, north carolina. again, major problems here, also beach erosion, ground is
completely saturated. already seeing flooding along the coast flooding out some roads. people here are bracing for lots of rain in the next couple days. officials are set to hold briefing in the next few hours to update us on the recent efforts, no mandatory vauksz today. there were local vauksz here on the outer banks yesterday, but again, andrea, they're bracing for what could be potentially historic flooding up and down the east coast, not just north carolina. back to you. >> gabe gutierrez, right in the middle of it. of course your camera crew trying to protect the lens of the camera in that shot as well. stay safe all of the people down there. up next, we go back to oregon, the latest in the investigation into the mass shooting there as we expect new information from officials moments from now. they're going to be briefing at 1:00 or sooner. stay here for all of the live coverage. you're watching msnbc. red carpet where our next arrival is... whoa! toenail fungus!?
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when we found out there was an active shooter on campus we were going to go and see if we could intervene, veterans are trained, air force, marines, army, we are trained to go into danger, not just run away from it. if there was something we were able to do, we were going to try to do it. essentially we ended up going into our classrooms where the instructor asked if anybody in the room was concealed carrying, i raised my hand, said i was, and i was prepared to defend the classroom. >> americans reacting to an emergency with heroism. we expect an update shortly from douglas county sheriff at 1:00 eastern on the latest information from the investigation into the mass shooting at an oregon community college. joining me from the command post in roseburg, msnbc jacob so far
rafa. you were the first one there, you have spoken to so many people there. what are their reactions. i imagine some are still in shock. >> reporter: the community, andrea, is obviously heartbroken. there are so many more questions than answers for the sheriff himself, john hanlin. at the press conference we haven't heard many things including names of victims, accused shooter's name from this gentleman, haven't heard official cause of death, weapons used, details about two roseburg police officers first on scenario that the sheriff said were heroes. i talked with the president of the community college, she said concealed carry is something that's legal on campus at oregon. there were students, i talked to one of them just yesterday after the shooting who did have a gun on him at the campus. she said the truth of the matter
is somebody like that and impair a phrasing here is not the one that stopped the shooter, it was heavily armed tactical sheriff's deputies, so she doesn't understand the conversation about concealed carry on campus. >> and the sheriff himself after sandy hook, which incident was it after which he wrote a letter to joe biden. >> reporter: that's right. he wrote a letter to joe biden in 2013, andrea. said he was opposed to some federal gun control legislation or proposals put forward. when i asked him this afternoon whether or not he watched president obama's press conference, he said no, he did not. i asked him do you expect a phone call from the president and he chuckled and said no, i don't. i wrote a letter referring to this letter in 2013 to the vice president and i never heard back. >> it is reported some victims and relative of the victim said the shooter actually said to some of the victims as he lined
them up, you know, are you christian, and then would shoot them in the head if they were christian and in the leg nonfatally if they said they were not. pete williams says according to law enforcement he has left documents indicating he was against organized religion. is there anything more we know about that? >> reporter: no, but i have heard the same nbc news reports you're referring to, andrea. that's something people are talking about here, i'm sure will come up at the press conference in a short amount of time. >> we will be covering that live, coming back to you, jacob. thank you so much. as we continue to follow all of the developments from roseburg, nbc news and msnbc take note of the other victims of gun violence around the country yesterday at the same time as this horror was happening in oregon. ari melber is here with more. >> thanks, andrea. over 30,000 killed by firearms a year in the u.s. in 2013. the last year government data is available. there were 21,175 suicides, 505
accidental firearm deaths, and 11,208 homicides. what does that mean? works out to roughly 92 people killed by firearms in the united states every day. nbc news has been tracking firearms death since yesterday's shooting at umpqua community college and throughout the day today, we're reporting on victims in the other shootings. for example, last night in cleveland, a five month old baby was shot while sitting in a car with her mother. she died at the hospital. police say they believe the shots were fired from a nearby apartment building, striking the car and surrounding area. cleveland's police chief, calvin williams, cried during a public briefing about that shooting just last night. it was an emotional scene there during that press conference. more broadly, it has been a deadly month in cleveland with 8 children under the age of 15 shot in september alone. we also want to show you a
friend of aviel's mother, sharing pictures of that baby girl, writing, quote, no mother should have to hold her child in her arms as she dies in any circumstance. that's just one of the other gun deaths we're tracking, andrea. >> thank you very much so much, ari. there will be more on this reporting on other people that died in gun violence yesterday tonight on "nbc nightly news" with lester holt. let's get more from senator ben c carden. you understand what the challenges are, why can't congress act? even after sandy hook? >> andrea, i heard the president's response. he certainly expresses my view, we are angered over this. it is complicated to figure out how to prevent this violence. one thing we can't do is sit on the sidelines, why we can't pass
sensible background check legislation or get rid of assault weapons ordeal with large ammo clips, these are common sense improvements to gun safety laws that we should pass to show that congress is trying to be constructive partner. sitting on the sidelines is not an option. >> senator blumenthal, your colleague was on earlier, he and chris murphy from connecticut are sponsoring new legislation on background checks. what can you and other of your colleagues do to try to push this along, given lobbying against it. >> the question is whether the republican leadership will let us have a vote on the floor of the united states senate and house and help support and frame sensible gun safety legislation. background checks make sense. shouldn't be a partisan issue. let's at least show the american people we're trying to do something to help in this regard. so i hope we'll be able to get a
chance to vote on it, i hope we have votes to pass it. >> it is very clear from polling that the american people overwhelmingly support some action here. at the same time, it has been pointed out when you're dealing with someone who has a mental issue who has not been treated, the background check would not pick that up. if someone were treated, there are privacy laws so medical data cannot be part of the calculation. >> andrea, no one is suggesting we have a simple solution for the violence that we've seen in our communities, there's no simple solution, but congress needs to be an active partner. we can make our laws more effective than they are today. we can provide funding to try to identify people who are at risk. there are things we can do to make it less likely that people get hurt through gun violence in america. just saying well, there's nothing we can do, that's not acceptable. congress needs to act. >> ben cardin, senator, thank
you for joining us today from baltimore. >> thank you. >> later today, we're hearing more from president obama at 3:30 this afternoon. he will speak to the media. the reason is a personal announcement, he is going to announce education secretary arne duncan, one of the original can net members is stepping down. he will take questions. we can expect he will be asked about the horrific shooting in oregon. as we await new information from officials in oregon on the mass shooting, we get political reaction from others, and talk to dan gross of the brady campaign. stay with us here on msnbc. things we build and it doesn't even fly. we build it in classrooms and exhibit halls, mentoring tomorrow's innovators. we build it raising roofs, preserving habitats and serving america's veterans. every day, thousands of boeing volunteers help make their communities the best they can be. building something better for all of us.
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showed earlier, this is a tragedy that happens in our country every single day, whether mass shooting at a school or the 89 people killed with guns every day in our country. there's so much more we can do to prevent tragedies from happening. hopefully we're going to get down to business here. >> the president challenged the news media to report on the numbers of people killed by terrorism in the last year compared to numbers killed by gun violence and we have 12,000 plus who are killed by gun violence in america. 18 killed by terrorism. >> that's the number that's murdered. there are all sorts of striking comparisons when you're dealing with an issue that claims the lives of more than 30,000 people in our country every year, the comparisons will be there, whether it is 747s full of people, school buses full of people. i mean, there are a number of ways of slicing that.
i think the important thing to focus on here is the solutions. there are solutions that exist. we're not going to prevent every tragedy happening, but the reality is so many tragedies happen because guns are getting into hands of people we all agree shouldn't have them, and people we can prevent from having them. that's what we want to focus on. that's what brady background checks do. it is not just a sensible piece of legislation that's supported by 90% of the american public, expanding background checks to all gun sales. background checks work. since brady law was passed in 1994, 2.4 million prohibited purchasers, convicted felons, domestic abusers, dangerously mentally ill have been prevented buying guns. so anyone who does not want to expand those background checks to all gun sales, the thousands of sales that happen every day in our country that go unchecked at gun shows which have become big commercial business and online on internet sites that i don't want to give the name of
because they do such dirty business, anybody who is against doing background checks in those channels have an agenda other than the safety of the american people. >> dan gross from the brady campaign against gun violence. thank you for being with us. >> thanks, andrea. we expect new information in the next hour from the officials, the sheriff and other officials in roseburg, oregon. that may be slightly delayed. stick with us. we will carry it live. stay tuned, we will be right back. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon. stay strong. stay active with boost®.
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hi, everybody, i am thomas roberts, we are continuing coverage of the tragedy at umpqua community college, the site of america's most recent mass shooting right here in roseburg, oregon. a beautiful rural section of our country. we are expecting update from officials that are leading this investigation coming up at any moment. here's what we know and can tell you. ten people were killed. nine injured in law enforcement and gunman left behind, a multi page hate filled note left behind at the shooting scene. officials say he lamented the fact he had no girlfriend and thought the world was against him. we're getting a picture how chaotic things were during the shooting. earlier i spoke with a witness who described the moment one of her classmates was shot.