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revealing details. what we're learning about the oregon shooter from a series of online postings by his mother. and exclusive investigation, how donald trump is paying for his campaign. first, officials in south carolina say there could be more evacuations over the next 48 hours due to flooding. the death toll across the carolinas is climbing now to 16. two in north carolina, 14 in south carolina. engineers are closely monitoring volatile dams as floodwaters move toward lower ground. today, south carolina governor nikki haley described the damage she saw during an early morning flyover of the state. >> this morning i went up and started to see the damages after the water has come down. the water has come down a good 10 or 20 feet from the time that we were in the air. and what i saw was disturbing. and it is hard to look at the loss that we are going to have. but everything will be okay.
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>> let's turn now to nbc's craig melvin in columbia, south carolina. craig, i know you just got there, so with fresh eyes, what does it look like to you? >> kate, it's unreal. you can't really describe it. i'm from here. i grew up, maybe 15, 20 minutes from where i stand right now. and i've spent some time talking to friends, folks i went to college with, people who have lost everything. i mean, literally everything. you see them walking out of their houses with pictures of their children, and just a few of the other memories that they're trying to salvage. this is a home here, these are the haileyes. they managed to get out in the nick of time. they have a 12-year-old son. around 5:00 sunday morning, the water started rising. they made a beeline for it. their 12-year-old boy had to hang on to this mailbox to keep from getting swept away by
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rushing water. that's why the mailbox is bent. there are a number of these. sink holes. this is just one street. and in this one street, i can tell you, one, two, three, four -- every house here complete loss. you start doing the math, we're talking thousands of people here in the city of columbia, and this isn't even columbia proper. where you still have a number much roads, major highways that are completely shut off, completely impassable at this point. there was concern that the windsor dam, that's one of the ten dams that were supposed to protect this area. eight of them breached. there was concern that the windsor dam was also going to give away. i've talked to a number of folks who say that no longer appears to be a possibility. so the lion's share of the day has been spent getting things out of houses, meeting with insurance adjustors, trying to
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salvage what you can here. and that's going to be the case for the next few days and weeks in columbia, south carolina, kate. >> we were talking to the mayor last hour, of that town, and he said most people don't have flood insurance. it's inland. you're not on the coast there. what are your friends telling you about how they rebuild, where they go now? >> you know, we were just talking about that. funny you should ask me that. you're right, things like this don't typically happen in columbia, south carolina. it's land-locked. there are a number of lakes, but never any flooding here. so the folks who do have flood insurance, they don't have the kind of flood insurance that includes everything in the home. so what you have here are a lot of good friends and a lot of good neighbors and family members who are taking people in. we have seen dozens of strangers, in some cases, dropping off food, water, helping people take furniture out, ripping floors up. you're going to see a great deal
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of that. i spent some time talking to a number of charity organizations about shelters. i mean, there are a number of shelters that have popped up here in columbia. but right now, there's does not seem to be a great need yet because everyone's pitching in and allowing folks to stay over at churches. a number of churches are opening their doors as well, kate. >> there's the silver lining. craig melvin, stay safe. today nbc's carrie sanders spoke to a local football team volunteering to help flood victims as well. there are no rivalries in south carolina when it comes to a disaster. >> this is the home of your arch rival, athletic director? >> yes, sir. >> and today you're out here. no rivalries today? >> no rivalries today. just trying to help out the best we can. >> how do you feel to be doing this? >> it's importance for us. we were out there yesterday, a bunch of houses are just ruined.
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it hurts. it's right in our community. not something you're used to here. >> no rivalries today? >> no rivalries today. we want to help out the best we can. >> what's the lesson here about sportsmanship? >> i think the lesson is, there's things way more important than football. people. >> doing the right thing. >> that's right. and i think that we have an opportunity to teach our kids something that transcends the sport. >> let's bring in kerry sanders. really touching to hear those kids talk about no rivalries today. >> well, let me give you some background here. those kids go to hammond. the high school football team comes out here and they start going from house to house. the second house they go to, happens to be the athletic director from heathwood hall. that is their number one rival on the football field. and yet here they are in the house, doing everything they can. and as you heard them say, no rivalries. a very touching story. they huddled up in front of
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house after house today and went in without any sort of introduction. just like, we're here, we're here to help. and to the families of folks like this house here that are getting the help from strangers, it's just an overwhelming sense of community. and for those who have gone through disasters, to have strangers come here, literally walking down the street going, i have lunch. and a minute later somebody comes by and says, i have water. fact, one of people here told me they have so much food brought to them, they can't eat it all. that's the outpouring of help here. where i'm standing, about a quarter mile from here, there's lake kathryn, there's a dam, and people, while they're here, one eye over their shoulder, because they know potentially there could be a problem. most of them have phones set up for two alerts. there have been two today. both were incorrect, they were false alerts. so nobody had to scramble. but they're all aware that if there were a problem, they would have to get out of here quickly. >> right.
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and craig melvin was just saying that where he is, people seem to be somewhat not as concerned right now. somewhat more relieved that things might be over. where you are, are people still anxious about tonight as we head into the evening? >> not really. but you know, it's just human nature. the sun is out. the sky is blue. it feels like it's over. you know, you have to be a state engineer, who's looking at the dam and measuring the water levels to understand that the record is still at record levels, that the dams could potentially still give way. but it's very hard for people in this area to keep that in the front of their minds. it's easier when the deluge continued and people were on edge. >> kerry sanders, thanks so much. sarah dallof, also in columbia, i know you're at a new location than where you were last hour. >> yeah, that's correct, kate. gills creek, that's the source of so many of the problems for these local neighborhoods near
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lake kathryn. such a force of water here, still pouring down this river. you can see debris lodged between the water and the bridge. you can see a bucket up there lodged in the railing. gives you an idea of how fast this water flows. so imagine that you are a homeowner, you live next to this normally beautiful, very docile creek, and then the water starts coming up your yard, up your drive and all of a sudden not only is it in your house, but it's past your knees and climbing past. and your furniture behind me, is actually floating as you're trying to navigate to get to the doorway, to get to rescuers. this is the lathams' house, volunteers and neighbors helping them get everything out of the house, see what they can save, see what needs to go. but right now, they're just feeling very lucky that their entire family and all of their pets are okay. i'm joined now by the lathams. julie and megan. can you tell me when you first realized it wasn't a normal
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storm, it was a really dangerous situation? >> i got up at 4:00, i looked outside, our pool was overflowing, but it was fresh water and i noticed that the water was at the bridge and i went back to bed. at 6:00, our phone rang and it was our neighbor that lived three doors down, and he said, we have water in our house, get up. we got up. there was already water to probably my ankles. so in that two-hour period, we think the dam broke at 5:00. so between 4:00 and 5:00, it came into our house. by about 8:45, we were on a john boat, going down our yard being rescued. so really from about 6:00 to 8:45, the water came to about eight feet. >> so quickly. >> yeah, it was a lot. we were pretty calm. we were getting stuff like heirlooms upstairs. we thought we were going to ride it out, which you always here, but there wasn't any wind.
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it uwasn't like a hurricane. you just figured, we might get some water in the house, that will be okay. but then when we realized the current was so strong and i was afraid the windows were going to start busting in. it just really happened toy fast. >> it was time to go? >> yeah. >> megan, you said you didn't have time to put on shoes. what did you grab when you left? >> my brother had told me to pack a go bag pretty early on when we decided that we couldn't stay upstairs and wait it out. so in that bag, i grabbed a pair of leggings and a couple of sweat shirts. my computer and phone and their chargers. but when we were leaving, what we had to worry about was really our animals, because we didn't know how to get them out. so i put my cats in a duffel bag and i said, i need to get my shoes, and my brother said, we don't have time for that because the current was so strong, it was hard for the john boats to
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navigate the flooded neighborhood. >> cats in a duffel bag and their entire family safe today. so kate, really some amazing stories of survival and some amazing stories of good samaritans coming down to do what they can to help. back to you. >> unbelievable, sarah, thanks so much. let me bring in theresa wilson, the city manager of columbia, south carolina. theresa, is there any danger at this hour for your residents? let's get that first. >> well, we are, kate, even two days later now, still in a period of search, rescue, and unfortunately, recovery. we are notifying our citizens, particularly in this area of columbia, where i'm standing now, of the potential for breaks in dams. even from upstate south carolina, the waters are draining down to the midlands. what we're seeing is that domino effect, unfortunately. what we have on our side a little bit now is this sunlight we're seeing, but we don't want
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to give the false hope to people that the potential is not there. so we're trying to put out notifications, be prepared for the event that any dams continue to break. this is home for me too. and so i'm very passionate about this and all of the city staff, first responders are working around the clock, to ensure our citizens that we are trying to restore service, water service for them and make sure that in the event that any of them are impacted by the potential for additional flooding, we are prepared to help them. >> all right, theresa wilson, thanks so much. good luck to you. >> thank you, kate. coming up, what are people close to joe biden saying about a possible run for president? steve kornacki is with us. plus, president obama makes plans to meet with the families of last week's school shooting in oregon. also new details today about that shooter, what his mother posted online about guns and raising her son. a flu shot?
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today the office of vice president joe biden is disputing a politico report about what he said to the "new york times" columnist maureen dowd. biden's office isn't confirming or denying that he talked to the columnist about his son bo's dying wish that he run for president. but they're not denying -- they are denying the suggestion that biden had political motivations in mind. i'm joined now by msnbc host and political correspondent steve kornacki. walk us through the article and the response. >> this started august 1st, the
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date this column ran. it was in the wake of beau biden's death. this is about the conversations as beau biden was dying. and she's quoting what she says are joe biden's thoughts. so there's a lot of mystery back then about where did she get the descriptions from, where did she get the thoughts from. politico today say they have multiple sources that this came directly from the vice president himself, that he leaked this to the "new york times," to maureen dowden. it says that in truth, biden effectively placed an ad in the "new york times," saying it was a calculated effort to drum up support for a potential presidential campaign. the vice president's office is bitterly contesting that characterization. this is the statement from the vice president's office. it says, the bottom line on the politico story is that it is
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categorically false and the characterization is offensive. as you said, though, kate, what they are not denying, they're not confirming or denying is whether he spoke with maureen dowden. if you talk to allies of the vice president today about this story, what you'll get back from them, they'll basically say, yes, he probably spoke with her, but if you know how joe biden talks to people, he talks and he talks and he talks, and he jumps from one anecdote and detail to one observation, so who knows how this conversation went. this is a grieving father who was going through all sorts of emotions and telling all sorts of anecdotes. it's not a calculated effort to launch a presidential campaign. it's a grieving father talking to a newspaper columnist who he's known for some time. the significance of this, in terms of the politics, all of this talk about joe biden, needing to make a decision on whether to run for president, well, this personal drama, over the last year, over his son's death, over his handling of it,
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has increased admiration and respect and support for joe biden. it's brought it to a level we've never seen before. a year ago, if you asked people if they had a positive or negative view of joe biden, more said negative than positive. the same question was asked two weeks ago, complete opposite result. 40% positive, 28% negative. that makes him one of the most popular politicians to the scene right now. that increase in popularity for joe biden coincides with hillary clinton's numbers coming down. so you can see, through this whole episode, the country has changed its mind in a lot of ways on joe biden. it has made him more of a political force arguably than he's ever been before. so that's the threat of this story to him. does it undercut the incredible personal appeal of how he's handled this the last few months? does it make it seem, do people buy the notion that joe biden used his son's death for crass
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political purposes? >> and it also raising so many questions about the hillary clinton clinton and if he gets in, how do they respond to it? and what do they do about -- i don't know how to say this appropriately. but his son died, and it's a tragic thing, and how does that play politically if clinton gets involved? >> there's sensitivities two ways here. both camps are gaming out how this might play. this particular story is something the clinton campaign would probably leave alone. but there's a report today in new york magazine, like any campaign would, they're starting to think about, if we have to run against joe biden, what are his vulnerabilities? and there are issues there, one might be his closeness to the credit card industry. so those sorts of things you can imagine are going on. but obviously the sensitivity is, right now, joe biden is something who is more respected than he's ever been. so if you're going after him, there's a risk there for the clinton campaign. at the same time, on the biden camp side, you're running
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against a trailblazing politician here, somebody who is poised to become the first female ever nominated for president by the democratic party. she was denied once in 2008 when she defeated her. there's a sensitivity to attacking hillary clinton and attacking somebody who has the potential to make that kind of history. so both sides here, they're not engaging right now, and i think in a lot of ways they're hoping they'll never have to engage, but if joe biden does get into the race, it's unavoidable as a certain level. >> thank you, steve. coming up, stunning new details on the oregon shooter's life and what his mom was posting online. plus, the latest on that deadly air strike that destroyed an afghanistan hospital over the weekend. the u.s. says it was a mistake. doctors without borders says it was a war crime, and now nato is weighing in. >> it's a very serious matter and therefore it's important that we now get all the facts on the table. se!!!!! we heard you got a job as a developer!
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funeral services will be held for some of the victims of the umpqua community college shooting begin on friday and president obama is heading to oregon to meet privately with some of the victims' families as well. e learning new details from the diery of online postings made by the shooter's mother. miguel almaguer has the details. >> reporter: startling new revelations about the mother of chris harper mercer, the shooter who killed nine people at umpqua community college last week. for over a decade laurel harper, a registered nurse offered advice on various medical issues like asperger's syndrome, an autism spectrum disorder that she wrote, both she and her son struggled with. on the yahoo answers board, use
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harper also wrote about her firearm and gun law fascination. my son has much knowledge in this field, she said. on keeping loaded handguns at home, she wrote, the ars and aks all have loaded mags. no one will be dropping by my house uninvited. mother and son went to shooting ranges together, according to reports. his father ian mercer told cnn -- >> how on earth could he compile 13 guns? >> reporter: more questions than answers in a senseless tragedy as a community tries to heal. neighbors say laurel harmer and her son lived here for roughly two years, that they were quiet and kept to themselves. they also say they were shocked that they had such a large arsenal of weapons. kate, back to you. >> miguel, thank you. after the break, a big admission today on capitol hill, the top u.s. general in
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also, 9 out of 10 medicare part d patients can get toujeo® at the lowest branded copay. ask your doctor about the proven full 24-hour blood sugar control of toujeo®. a major admission today from an american military official about that strike that hit a hospital in afghanistan this weekend. the top u.s. commander in afghanistan telling senators, the bombing was a mistake. but that it was a u.s. decision. this after he said on monday that afghan forces, not the united states, had called for that strike. >> to be clear, the decision to provide air fire was a u.s. decision made within the u.s. chain of command. a hospital was mistakenly struck. we would never intentionally target a protected medical
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facility. >> also today, the white house announced the department of justice is now investigating the attack, along with the department of defense. 22 people died at a doctors without borders medical facility. joining me now, nbc news capitol hill correspondent luke russert. what are you hearing from members of congress? >> well, obviously, kate, there's a lot of concern from be ms of congress about what specifically happened here, basically because of the changes in story you've heard from pentagon officials. in the course of the questioning today of general campbell, one thing that was interesting, a member asked him, would you be open to an independent investigation about what occurred here and he said, well, that would have to be a decision made higher up the food chain. so expect some investigations coming from congress about what specifically happened and why there's been so much misinformation about this horrific incident in the few days directly after it, kate. >> luke, we just heard from senator manchin last hour, a
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democrat from west virginia. he was upset by the idea that we still have troops in afghanistan. so is the president getting pushback now from his own party? >> i suspect that you'll see some liberal members of the democratic caucus, as well as people like joe manchin who feel it's been a rich man's war and a poor man's fight, really push back, that a res iddual force of 5,000 troops would be needed in afghanistan after the original withdrawal date, which is the end of 2016. campbell, the general today, in his testimony said that withdrawal needs to be reexamined. why? we had the fall of the town in the north to the taliban, the first fall of a territory to the taliban since 2001, but also new information that general campbell said today of iran arming the taliban to fight against isis. and pushing forward this point that if the u.s. were to completely disengage, you could have similarities to what happened in iraq. so expect this battle to be off
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and on in congress, between the liberals and those like senator joe manchin in the administration, if they decide to go this route. and a lot of republicans will say the u.s. needs to stay in afghanistan to not have a repeat of what's happened in the other parts of the middle east. >> richard engel is in istanbul. let's talk about how this is playing on the international stage. really, a pretty big admission from the u.s. government today on capitol hill from the top military commander, saying, this was our fault. >> well, what we saw today was the u.s. owning up to what had already been blamed on the united states. the u.s. yesterday had said it was an american air strike and took responsibility for launching the air strike. but seemed to be shunting responsibility, pushing it off onto the afghan government, saying, well, we were just doing what we were asked to do, the afghan troops were in danger and we carried out this air strike
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and bad things happen in war. today general campbell came out and said it was a decision by the u.s. chain of command and a mistake was made and it is being investigated. what he didn't say is how the mistake was made and i think we'll find that out over the course of several investigations that are now under way. >> from your position in europe, what are you hearing from allies of the united states? what are you hearing from the middle east? what are other countries saying about how large an issue this should be? >> well, doctors without borders, the group that ran the hospital, the group that is internationally celebrated, it won the nobel prize for its activities in war zones, does not believe that the investigations are going to yield any credible results, because the people carrying them out, the u.s. military, the afghan government, and nato, were all party to the attack, and they want an independent investigation. what's interesting and what i know a lot of u.s. officials in
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washington are watching very closely, is how the afghan government is reacting to all of this. in the past, when you had president karzai, anytime there was an event with civilian casualties, karzai would come out, denounce it, encourage protests in the street and try and distance himself as much as he could from that event. so far, this afghan government has not been taking that position and u.s. officials are watching that very closely. what people in afghanistan are more concerned about is what luke was just talking about a minute ago. how could kunduz fall. this is a big city, about 300,000 people. they were roughly 9,000 afghan police and soldiers in the city, and a much smaller number of taliban managed to push them out and take over the city just for a few days, but still take it over.
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and that does not bode well for the future of the country, for the future of the afghan security forces, which are now completely dependent on the u.s. military. and people in kabul are asking, well, if kunduz could fall, what about kabul or other cities? >> all right, richard engel, thank you so much. moving now to 2016 -- >> good to talk to you. >> you too. >> 2016 campaign now, for all of donald trump's talk about his wealth, he doesn't appear to be relying on it in his presidential campaign. that's what ari melber found in an exclusive report on the trump campaign's spending habits. he joins me now. this is really interesting. you really dug in. >> yeah, thanks, kate. it's nice to see you. what we looked at here is a story you can see ially in one chart. we'll put it up on the screen for you. donald trump spending, according to what advisers told the "new york times" recently, we compare
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that to other major candidates. cruz, carson outspending him. hillary clinton outspending him almost 10-1, according to what his advisers told "the times." this undercuts one of the key assumptions of the trump campaign to date, that he will spend his way to victory and he'll never have to worry about something other candidates do, that he could be bought or pressured by donors. i spoke to gop sources who say this has worked so far. some estimate he's got $100 million of free media campaign value. but they say it as a time limit. with the romney campaign, they spent $50 million on staff and 100 million on internet operations. so if donald trump is serious, these going to have to tap into that money. i spoke with ronald reagan's former political director who worked for perot. he accounted how perot was rich
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but cheap and told me this. my sense is that perot, like trump, knew absolutely nothing about government or how it functions. i think trump ns the modern media. whether he's going to spend his own money or not, we will wait and see. and kate, a little update to this, just in the last hour, the trump campaign speaking to a different publication, saying they want to clarify, in response to this article, that they will release all their numbers just like everyone else, october 15th, that the two million number that the advisers gave the "new york times" may be growing. interesting in this business, e always listen to our sources. but it suggests the notion of whether or not he's serious is something they want to address. they want to have everyone feel that he's in this race for real. the best plus side you could put on this, as a final thought, would be, well, if he can do all this on the cheap, then he can be frugally effective. but there are other costs down
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the road. >> and he's made it clear he's got the money. he can start spending at any point if they feel they need to, i guess. >> right. and look, some of this stuff, i'm getting so much attention, isn't that good? yes, that's the air war. there is a ground war. there are ballots to organize and distribute. there are field programs you have to run in the later states. that's not something that any amount of name recognition or leadership in the polls is going to satisfy. and again, it goes to the fact that he is an unusual candidate, but he hasn't spent on the type of staff or advisers that you typically would. he's got some young folks on the ground. they have spent in different states. we track all that, but there isn'te yet the indication he's going to fund a fully national campaign. and october 15th, everyone will get a look under the hood of all these campaigns. >> that's when we get our next filing. >> right. he came in so late, we didn't get a summer filing from him.
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threatening similar shutdowns if the safety deadline is not postponed. and california has become the largest state to allow terminally ill patients to legally end their lives. governor jerry brown signed the bill on monday which allows doctors to provide patients who terminally ill patients who are expected to die within six months. it's the fifth state with a right to die law. you'll remember brittany maynard who released this youtube video one year ago today. she had moved to oregon to end her life after learning she had terminal brain cancer. we're learning more now about the michigan woman who won a powerball lottery of $300 million. a blue collar worker is seeing nothing but green today. >> it was a pay day like no other for 50-year-old julie leechu. comes from a small town by the name of three rivers here in
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michigan. she picked up her powerball jackpot check here in lansing today. more than $300 million. where was she when she found out that she was the big winner? she was working the overnight shift at the bathtub factory, where she has worked for more than 20 years. two, she was in the drive-through line at the mcdonald's, picking up her lunch when she almost fainted when all of the numbers came up. she went back to work, checked the numbers with one of her fellow employees, and was immediately told to go home. what did she do then? she went home, woke up her partner of 36 years. he says he was dreaming of having won the lottery that night. i think he also complained about the fact that he woke her up too. but they've not been complaining since. they said they have 11
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grandchildren and it's their plan to look after their family, pay off all of their debts, the mortgage, the car payments, and perhaps do some traveling. all right, kevin tibbles reporting on powerball there. did he mention that she went to the weekends drive-through? here's a segue. breakfast-lovers winning everywhere today. starting right now, mcdonald's is offering select items off its breakfast menu, all day long. mcdonald's had been promoting the breakfast revolution for weeks and happy customers are digging right in. >> i would eat a bacon, egg, and cheese all day long if i could. that's my favorite. >> breakfast to me is sometimes better than steak or a boiled dinner. so, it's like, pretty much dying and going to heaven. that's a little extreme, but i like the idea of it. >> the egg and cheese biscuit is my downfall. i don't know about you, but let's check in on wall street
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now in the hospital. no details yet on what caused that episode. but it comes a day after an american airlines pilot collapsed and died mid flight. >> kate, the co-pilot took the controls really quickly and managed to land that plane safely back on the ground. i spoke with the widow of captain michael johnson, who said he died doing what he loved -- flying. he's been doing it for more than 25 years. >> terrifying moments on the overnight flight, but passengers never knew the pilot had collapsed in the cockpit. >> basically said the pilot was really sick, and that was it. we saw ambulances pulling up. four hours into the american airlines flight from phoenix to boston, the co-pilot saying the captain wasn't feeling well, descended for an emergency landing in syracuse. calm, but clearly concerned. >> as long as they have a way to
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get on the airplane quickly, thank you. >> so if it wasn't for the co-pilot using a cool head, it might have been more disastrous. >> reporter: passengers hurried off the plane, past flight attendants in tears. discovering later captain johnson had died. >> we've cried on and off today and just kind of feels like he's still on a trip and we can expect him home on wednesday. >> it's incredibly rare for a commercial pilot to die mid flight. only happening six other times in the last two decades. pilots must retire by age 65 and have yearly physicals. johnson's wife said he was required to have exams more frequently after a bypass surgery in 2006. this morning, johnson's family, his wife, their eight children, and five grandkids, are honoring his memory. >> loved everyone that was around him. an amazing father to his
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children and the best husband i could ever ask for. the johnstons would have celebrated their 35th wedding anniversary later on this month. the ceo of american airlines sending thoughts and prayers to the family and praising the crew members on the flight for their quick thinking and team work during this difficult time. remember, they train for situations like this. u.s. airlines requires two pilots in every cockpit. this is exactly why. >> thanks so much. >> a passenger on the flight joins me now. i'm just trying to imagine what it must have been like on the plane. from what i know, they told you the pilot was ill. is that right? >> that is correct. basically as they made an announcement that basically the captain was not feeling well, and that they were going to make an emergency landing in syracuse. that's basically all they had said to us. >> and then you get off the plane and at what point do you realize the gravity of the
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situation? >> well, i think some of us started to realize the gravity of the situation as we were leaving the plane. you could see that the flight attendants were teared up. and from where we were sitting on the plane, you could see that they were blocking the view into the cockpit as people were entering into it, and that he wasn't actually walking from the cockpit out to take care of whatever they thought -- where he wasn't feeling well. and we sat for a few extra moments, and then they asked us to deplane. and that's when you could see in some of the flight attendant's eyes, something was going on. prior to coming into the airport, there was also emergency gear and ambulances and stuff waiting when the plane actually landed and we deplaned to go into the waiting area and said they would let us know as soon as they knew anything. >> this all could have gone so much differently if that co-pilot hadn't jumped in. how are you feeling today?
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>> i feel great. a little overwhelmed. the realization of it set in when you start to, you know, put a face and a name, you know, that he had a life and a wife and children and grandchildren. you know, it just makes it so surreal, you know, when the identity becomes known after everything happens. for us sitting there, you just say, yeah, it could have gone all so wrong. the co-pilot did a fantastic job, as i said on camera at the airport and to several interviews that i've had. his quick thinking, his training, his skills, when you think of it, it's a small cockpit. if he had collapsed into the -- into a certain position, the plane could have started to go down on its own, and they might not have had access to the equipment to take control of the plane. i mean, we felt a slight askengz
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prior to, thinking something might be wrong, but you don't put two and two together until after it happens. so with his quick thinking, in all honesty, 150-plus lives were spared. when you think of what could have tragically happened in a case like that, and we're all thankful, as well as i'm sure everybody else is as well. >> frank, we're thankful you're safe and we're sorry for that family. thank you very much. >> welcome. >> the death toll across the carolinas is climbing after a historic storm that now stands at 16. officials are warning that more evacuations are possible over the next 48 hours as engineers monitor dams in that area. craig melvin is in columbia, south carolina. craig? >> yes. >> sorry, can you hear me, craig? it's kate. >> i do. kate, i do have you. i want to show you one thing here real fast. we were just talking about this
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a second ago. these two toyotas, we're standing here in the yard of the haileyes in columbia, south carolina. i don't think you can really see it from here, but the water, when it came in sunday morning, this high. both of these are about to be towed away. this house, as we talked about, a complete loss. we were just talking to the woman who lives here, and she was saying that the better part of the day has been spent trying to get valuables out, pictures. i just saw her taking two of her favorite hand bags out as well. you mentioned the death toll a short time ago. 14 dead. governor hailey saying that seven of those who died, seven of those died, they were drowning. they were trying to get away. there's a woman who lives two doors up, my younger brother lives here in columbia, it's his good friend's mother, lost everything. this entire block right now, for the most part, a complete loss. so we've been talking to people
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about what it was like that sunday. and all of them said the same thing. that it just happened so fast, it just happened so fast, kate. >> craig melvin, thanks so much for sharing all that with us. that does it for this hour. i'm kate snow. "mtp daily" with chuck todd starts right now. ♪ if it's tuesday, it's time to place your bets. how soon will congress come after your favorite fantasy sports website? this is mtp daily and it starts right now. ♪ a lot to get to tonight including the harvard professor who's running for president. lawrence lessig on his long-shot bid. he's running to resign. he'll explain. exclusive new tv ad spending data, telling us who's shelling out the most in the early states and overall. we'll have the latest on russia's military moves in syria, and

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