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saw anything yesterday in new hampshire like what he saw yesterday when donald trump took the stage. >> and stop reading the obits, mike. >> happy birthday. >> kick it hard and wind it tight. >> thank you. >> i'm jose diaz-balart. this is msnbc. the democrats running for president are in vegas for their first debate of the 2016 season. hillary clinton, bernie sanders, martin o'malley, lincoln chafee and jim webb and there's even one on stand by just in case. hillary clinton gets the middle podium. while the fireworks might not be as big as what we've seen from the two republican debates so far, we can guarantee las vegas has never seen a show quite like this. we've got it all covered for you
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this morning. let's start with nbc news national correspondent peter alexander in las vegas. peter, good morning. >> hi, jose. good morning to you. she is already in a league of her own, the only democrat who has been on that stage before. she's been debating since high school. this performance is critical. she could solidify her front-runner status but a bad performance could give fuel to her opponents who say the wheels are coming off the campaign bus. tonight she's debate her fellow democrats but in las vegas she immediately took aim at the republican front-runner, donald trump, showing up at a union protest outside the trump hotel. >> some people think mr. trump is entertaining. i don't think it's entertaining when somebody insults
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immigrants, insults women. >> reporter: her main priority, avoid mistakes that could dominate the headlines. clinton took part in more than 20 debates in the 2008 process. and then there's the ongoing e-mail issue. clinton will argue it is fueled by republican attacks. and clinton will try to deliver a message to joe biden, still toying with a run of his own that despite the controversy, she's still a safe bet. finally, can clinton connect with voters? david axelrod says clinton's task is to be real. she'll argue as a woman she's the true outsider candidate. and lately she's deployed self-deprecation to help her image. >> i was constructed in a garage
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in palo alto a very long time ago. >> reporter: clinton advisers have repeated there's a much bigger difference between the republicans and republicans, not amongst the democrats. in six months of campaigning, hillary clinton has only even mentioned her chief rival bernie sanders' name at best a handful of times. jose? >> peter alexander in las vegas. thank you very much. let me bring in kasie hunt and alex alexander. who are we going to see tonight? a hillary clinton vowed for "saturday night live," prepared, willing to fight against the other candidates? >> that's the wonderful thing about debates. you can't be scripted. you can't just stick to your talking points. you have to get off your talking points. anything can happen here. you have two main candidates, hillary clinton and bernie sanders who are both very
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disciplined in their message. hillary clinton in previous events like this has used teleprompters. she went 26 rounds with the barack obama and the rest of the democratic field in 2008. more experienced than probably anybody in the democratic party on the presidential debate stage. whether she's mixing it up with jokes like her val character, i think we'll see a strong hillary clinton tonight. >> what does sanders have to do? he's really never taken her on directly. we were talking about she never mentions him. he rarely mentions her either. >> reporter: a couple things on that, jose, i think first to get to what you were just addressing, he has to contrast with her on policy. that's what his aides, people behind the scenes are saying he's looking to do. it's what you've been seeing from him in the days running up to this debate. you've seen him talking about his own vote on the iraq war,
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which is a contrast, even though he doesn't say his name. keep in mind she's obviously well known, she's been notice public sphere nationally for many, many years. bernie sanders has been drawing huge crowds but this is in many ways going to be his biggest, widest audience and for him it still represents that chance. i will say from a stylistic perspective, jose, we know the conventional wisdom about how it's difficult to debate a woman on the debate stage, sanders has been known to be a little bit testy, a little abrupt. he almost didn't deliver the line saying i got other things to do, let's get this out of the way. people here are wondering if there's going to be a moment in time where sanders maybe makes a misstep that shows some of the testier aspect of his personality. >> there are three other guys on the stage and they're not guys with empty resumés. what ares chan the chances of o
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them having a breakdown? >> is that right, jose? are there three others? >> i have their pictures. you can see it. >> you wouldn't know it from the cnn promo. they run a split screen of bernie sanders and hillary clinton and then after that they just flash up their names. they don't even show the pictures of jim webb, lincoln chafee or martin o'malley. known of those guys have a chance of winning the democratic nomination, let's be real about that. martin o'malley is running a conventional campaign having a difficult time running traction. he's planting his flag for the future. lincoln chafee and jim webb eccentric figures following their own course. they know they're not going to be the democratic nominee but both of them want to make a point in particular about foreign policy and the iraq war. lincoln chafee and jim webb both oppose that and will be bringing up that point on the stage.
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but the best they can hope for is a little burst of attention. people say, oh, that was interesting and maybe they get a little bit more press coverage later on and it's not about finding a path to the nomination. >> on the other hand, we saw for example on the republican side what happened, for example, carly fiorina, who was considered somebody they didn't really know well and because of the debate performance, she was actually able to grow. isn't that something that maybe any one of these three could do, john? >> well, look, there is much less structure to the republican race. the democratic race is all together different. hillary clinton is the dominant figure, you look past iowa and new hampshire, dominant leads in key primary states. so the republican situation is much more chaotic, much more fluid. the establishment candidates are not in a strong position. you've got ben carson and donald trump coming out of nowhere to make an impression among voters,
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don't know if they can continue to do that. but this is a different situation. it will change further if joe biden gets into the race, though i don't expect that to happen. but you've got hillary clinton as the establishment candidate, bernie sanders as the unvarnished voice of democratic government activism, doesn't take any guff, that's what's appealing about him. i think some of what kasie was mentioning, the testiness of bernie sanders, that's some his appeal. he doesn't play the game the way a lot of other politicians do. >> hillary clinton has come out against tpp and other issues she's maybe kind of changed her position on over the years, but do you think her position differences with president obama are going to be brought up tonight? >> yeah, i would not expect it, jose. president obama is still the biggest dog in the democratic party, he is the president of the united states. he is still hugely popular among
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the grass roots, among the democratic voters that hillary clinton or any democratic nominee is going to need to turn out. and hillary clinton's whose message, as peter said in the previous segment, is about lumping all the democrats together and contrasting them against republicans, not drawing contrast within the democratic party. she wants to say we all agree mostly on the same thing but i'm the strongest bear to go up against marco rubio or donald trump or whoever it ends up being on the republican side. she's going to say i'm the one who can unite the party and go up against the republicans. >> jose, even more than going after republicans, i think you can expect hillary clinton to use this opportunity to have a huge national audience to lay out her agenda, which she feels hasn't gotten the amount of attention it deserves. i expect a lot of hillary clinton's message to be talking directly to the voters watching and saying here's what i'm going to do for you, here's how i'm going to fight for you. >> i'm still thinking maybe some
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of the surprises could come from the other three but i'm an optimist in the sense that i like to see a vigorous conversation at all times. hey, alex, kasie and john, thank you for being with me. it's great seeing you all. >> of course the man looming large in tonight's debate is someone we don't think will show up and that's vice president joe biden. he spent the holiday weekend at his home in delaware. we told you he was going to be meeting with his family as he decides whether or not he should run for president. we do know there's an extra podium in case he should decide today. any word they're fuel be up air force 2 for a trip somewhere? >> reporter: it doesn't look that way. the vice president is still undecided. he's expected to have meetings at the white house later on today.
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his motorcade seems to be getting going. a source familiar with the vice president's thinking tells me he knows he has to make this decision soon. the decision could come within a week or so. i asked this person if the vice president wanted to wait to watch this debate, potentially wait for secretary clinton's testimony before the benghazi committee on october 22nd? this person said, no, those really aren't the benchmarks the president is looking at. he's really trying to determine if his family can do this emotionally given the recent loss of his son. this comes as the super pact draft biden is trying to urge biden to get into the race is releasing a new ad today enti e entitled "never quit" and features biden's speech before the democratic national convention in 2012. take a look. >> the job is about a lot more than a paycheck. it's about -- it's about your dignity.
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it's about respect. it's about your place in the community. it's about being able to look your child in the eye and say, honey, it's going to be okay and mean it and know it's true. you never quit on america and you deserve a president who will never quit on you! >> reporter: now that ad expected to be a lot less controversial than the ad that they were going to air but wound up pulling, which tried to highlight biden's resilience after losing his wife and daughter in a 1972 car crash. so that is where things stand today. biden will clearly be watching the debate very closely. the vice president is expected to leave just moments from now when he'll head back to the white house to attend meetings later today. >> we have breaking news from europe. dutch investigators have just released their final report on
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the crash of malaysia air flight mh-17. all 298 people on board were killed. tom costello covers aviation and joins me from washington d.c. what are investigators saying? >> the white house is saying this is precisely what it believed all along, that all points to russian-backed separatists as being responsible for this or russian forces themselves. this was, as you may recall, on july 17th, 2014, mh-17,
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amsterdam to kuala lumpur. they say the pilot died instantly and everyone minutes afterwards. >> flight mh-17 crashed as a result of the debt nation of the war head outside the airplane on the left-hand side of the cockpit. this -- >> he's talking about the buk missile system, a very ominous background there. they reconstructed the pieces of the plane there that they were using. that's the plane itself that
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they then brought from the ukraine over from the netherlands and reconstructed. the united states and ukraine continue to insist this was either the russians themselves or russian-backed separatists responsible. however, the russians vehement live denying that, their evidence saying that it was ukrainian forces that accidentally shot that down. the report is very critical about ukraine not closing down that air in which there was a hot war going on, many planes shot before in the weeks before mh-17 was shot down. >> i can't imagine you can go to the corner store and by a buk. there has to be a way of tracing that. >> the dutch are saying that the evidence is specific to the shrapnel and traces of paint
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that they found in the bodies of the crew members who died. that evidence suggests it did in fact come from a buk missile. you're right, this was a russian or a soviet -- so there is plenty here for both sides to chew on. >> tom costello, always a pleasure. >> you bet. >> still ahead, jeb bush presents his own plan to repeal and replace obama care. plus iran gives the okay for nuclear deals with iran to go forward. >> and this is what happens when technology and alcohol mix. a suspected drunk driver tells the world on per scope, hey, let's see if i get a d.u.i. we'll tell you how this turned out but let's just say she
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next hour republican hopeful will set his sights on obama care to repeal the affordable care act. he'll make his remarks at saints and elm college in manchester. what details have relearned about governor bush's plan? >> bunny you should ask that. within the commercial break just about a minute ago, the official notice came out from the campaign about what the message is that they want to get out today. innovation will bring down health care costs. i got more details about this
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late yesterday when i listened into a call that staffers gave to donors and other supporters of jeb bush and you said the key words here, repeal and replace, aimed squarely at those republican voters who have not warld up to jeb bush. he wants too bring it back by showing he's the substantive candidates here. what are the key elements. number one, he wants to bring more power back to the states to control health care coverage, something that is music ears of conservative republicans, more individual choice including how your month gets spent, what kind of plan you do and he wants to lower costs, although there are questions about what the impact of this will be. he's trying to give details of it, just two pages so maybe we'll get more details here. it comes at a time that people
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are shaking their heads. if he wants to get attention of what he considers to be a substantive plan, why do it on the same day the democrats are holding their first dee dee bait and there's been talk today that marco rubio who is doing better in polls, may get the support of jeff aidelson. in the last cycle, he spent $100 million of his own money. >> donald trump sent out a tweet this morning in reference to a young woman who challenged him yesterday. it reads in part, "the arrogant young woman who questioned me in such a nasty fashion at no labels yesterday was a jeb starve." what does the bush campaign have to say? >> officially he's saying she's never worked for the campaign,
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she's been a volunteer, she's never been on the paid staff. "like many in new hampshire, lauren is a student at st. a's, who is nationalate about and active in politics and attended this event on her own accord. we can't help but notice that mr. trump is sensitive about being questioned." we'll let you make your own decision if this is a plant. nobody in the political world would be shocked. it's not the first time and it actually ended up getting a lot of attention to donald trump, whether for the positive or negative depends on exactly how you feel about that candidate, jose. >> always a pleasure to see you. >> and you. >> after the break we'll look at the other headlines making news today. and we'll have the incredible story of a man, quote, doing
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ali, good morning. what's next? >> gorhod morning, jose. the bill passed largely because it had the backing of the supreme leader but it passed with caveats such as restriction to access to military sites, u.n. inspectors need to get permission from a powerful u.n. institution in iran in order to access the military sites. it also says that iran can resume nuclear activities if sanctions aren't lifted or are reimposed, but the next very important step in this process is that once iran has been deemed to be compliant with key areas of joint plan of action, then the european union and the united states will lift economic and energy sanctions on iran. that's expected to happen sometimes during the first quarter of next year, providing everything goes according to
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plan and, as you know, things can be predictably unpredictable in iran. it's going to be a tense couple of months while they try to put this process into place and iran can then get some desperately needed economic relief. >> ali, there's talk about missiles that be being deployed or at least being prepared in iran that would not be part of the agreement, wouldn't affect the agreement, but is iran going forward right now at least inside the country publicly with all of the agreement requirements? >> definitely. they're going ahead with all the requirements of the joint plan of action that was laid out for the nuclear deal, but there has been some contention about its missile program. they're saying this isn't in the spirit of the deal, that other things are being done. but i don't think that's going to concern the iranians very much. with one of the bills they passed in parliament today is the government should forge ahead with their military program.
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that's still very much in their sites, their missile program. >> ali arouzi, thank you for being with me. >> and in jerusalem, two men boarded a bus and started stabbing and killing passengers. >> and in haiti, an american missionary was shot and killed. roberta edwards' car was stopped by another vehicle intentionally blocking her path. they opened fired and she was killed. a young child in the car was kidnapped. her church remembered her as a light of the community and said she was an inspiration to all. roberta edwards was 55 years old. >> in kansas city, two firefighters died while fighting
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a massive building fire overnight. they had just rescued two people, carrying them out from the second floor on ladders. they went back in, cleared an area where the building collapsed around them. two other firefighters are hospitalized in stage condition this morning. >> another fire in tennessee. you can see tim go in the house and bring out the dog. terms out tim was a firefighter off duty. he saw the smoke. >> he didn't have to go into a house that was on fire. deeply, deeply appreciate that man being there. >> what a guy, huh? that was the owner of the home who was out of town at the time of the fire. the dog sitter had just left to go to the store when the fire broke out. after a quick break, will the next speaker of the house please stand up.
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>> carey, good morning. >> reporter: good morning. this is a case do you even know about the app periscope? it's interfaced with twitter. i'm going to cut to periscope, you see the camera crew, the audio, the producer, everybody who is here with me. this is new technology that allows everybody to see what you want to show them. if you use periscope and you dee decide you're going to put out what you're doing and it might be questionable or illegal, just remember this, it's not just the whole world watching, it's the police who's watching and in this case it got somebody in a whole world of trouble. out for a night of fun in lakeland, florida, 27-year-old whitney biehl was using the
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periscope app to live stream herself and friends in a bar. but then she made a decision she admits on camera that she admits was bad. >> i'm driving home drunk. let's see if i get a d.u.i. she hits a curb. concerned viewers called police. >> i just saw a girl on periscope driving drunk. she's driving really bad. >> what is periscope? >> criminals do give us clues, they do post things on social media. >> let's see if i get a d.u.i. i think i will. >> it took about 20 minutes after the 911 call to find biehl using landmarks in the video. she was pulled over, given a
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sobriety test and charged with d.u.i. >> it was shocking to say the least. >> the suspect does not have a court week. she told the nbc station, channel 8, that she's learned her lesson about using periscope and i guess about allegedly driving drunk. jose? >> that's such an important thing. you know what's weird, i've been following you on periscope as you've been doing this story. i've been seeing a lot of your pants, by the way. you've got to remember when you're on, you got to focus the camera on things that matter and not, like, your pants. >> reporter: it's a whole enough technology. i'm thinking more about this and less than this. it's really amazing. now you can show anything, i can go all the way around here and now we're looking at the lakeland police department, which is the agency that was handling this and then we come back over here. so it's kind of liberating and
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in this particular case with this one woman, it's also quite revealing. maybe of secrets that she shouldn't have revealed. don't drive drunk. >> great seeing you on both msnbc and on periscope. joining me is lakeland police department's department public information officer sergeant gary gross. thanks for being with me. >> good morning, jose. >> this is such a serious story in a real way because this is a person who decides to drive drunk, so drunk she hits the curb at moments and puts it on camera. this could have caused real destruction and death. talk to me about how your officers were able to find her and how it went down. >> you know, periscope is so new, they weren't real sure what it was or how to find her. they just knew people were calling from all over the world, two in particular saying she was in lakeland.
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one of our quick thinking officers was able to download periscope, get on and see a couple different landmarks, we flooded the area with police cars and we were able to locate her and stop her and take her into custody before she killed somebody. >> or herself. this is a situation that's extremely serious. i'm just wondering, a recent survey found over 80% of law enforcement professionals use social media for investigations and over three quarters think it can help solve crimes more quickly. this is something that is really beneficial to you all if you're able to use social media to in this case try to find someone before she killed someone or herself. >> it's a great tool. we had used periscope four weeks ago in a couple situations. for the most part, the dispatchers and police officers, it's not something that they use every day. we are going to make it
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available somewhat to the officers and detectives and at least educate them on this new social media tool to give us something else in our tool book we can use to fight crime. we're just thankful in this case nobody was hurt. >> that's the key part. what's the situation with her? she actually said she committed a mistake. this is a serious thing she was doing. >> in 30 years of law enforcement, i'm still shocked when i saw that video. she'll have to face the consequences of making those mistakes. >> sergeant gross, thank you for being with us and such great work. this is such a serious thing. luckily this young lady was caught before anything really bad could happen. >> thank you, jose. it's been a pleasure. >> turning to the question marks surrounding the house leadership, at least two more
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names are in the name for speaker. texas representative flores said he'd enter the race. luke russert is live in washington for us this morning. what's the timeline for this decision? >> well, it looks like, jose, that paul ryan probably will not make a firm decision while the house is in recess and they're going to be in recess for the duration of the week. why is that? when members are home in their districts, they usually talk to the most conservative voters that have the most vocal opinions. and there's already a mobilization on the right against paul ryan saying that he's been way too agreeable with democrats over budget limits, over immigration and things of that nature. so if paul ryan is to run, everyone close to him says, look, he wants a clear pathway
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to 218, does not want to have to deal with the conservative anger that brought do you mccarthy and boehner and when they are on recess, it's when the anger builds up. flores and mccall enjoy a little including marcia blackburn. if ryan won't run, it's a wide open race. texas is a 25-member strong delegation, they want to coalesce around one texan. that person could possibly have a springboard. it's pretty beneficial going into a race, jose. >> luke russert, thank you for keeping an eye on it. good to see you. >> thank you. >> what researchers could predi predict mental illness and prevent it? >> and back on stage is tracy
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. a new study out of yale university could have huge implications in the battle against mental illness. researchers say individuals have unique brain prints, similar to the unique fingerprints everybody has, and they say their findings could possibly help find a way to predict mental illness one day and then maybe even prevent it. we get more from dr. natalie azar. good seeing you. >> hi. good morning, jose. >> what is a brain print? >> the difference between a regular mri, which takes a picture of your brain, it shows the structure, it's a pretty static image. the difference here is a functional mri, which is measuring differences in brain activity during to blood flow. they were measuring connectivity, the communication
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between two regions of your brain and they found that was highly correlated with an individual print. so almost like a fingerprint can uniquely identify a person, they are suggesting that this brain print is intrinsic to individuals, that it's there and that, in fact, is a static thing, that you can identify people based on this pattern of connectivity in their brains. it's really quite interesting. >> so it's fascinating. for me to understand it a little better, i mean, i presume that everyone's brain works differently, right? >> yes. and the idea here is then sort of like the exciting news or the translational aspect of this, like how do we turn this then into diagnosing and possibly intervening in terms of illness is that we know, for example, they've studied functional mri in groups of people before to understand the differences in depression and autism to say is there a neurobiological basis for disease. and we do in fact know that can
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be the case. but what's difference about this is they were looking at individuals. they weren't just collapsing data from large groups of people. and the hope here is if they can see a particular pattern in an individual and say this looks like a pattern that we see in people with depression, how can we intervene and make a difference? i will tell you the research stopped very short of saying they have the next step in that chain of what they could actually do to make a difference. >> what would intervening mean? >> exactly. and that, honestly, i couldn't even begin to tell you what that could mean hypothetically. but let's say that we know a lot of these diseases respond very well to early intervention. if there was a way to change neuroconnectivity, that sounds a little sci-fi. nonetheless, in terms of the frontier of the brain and how much we don't know, this is one step further to elucidating these miraculous connections
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if elected, hillary clinton or carly fiorina will make history by becoming the first woman president of the united states. despite their long list of accomplishments, a suffolk university/"usa today" poll found the words most used to describe both carly fiorina and hillary clinton were -- liar, dishonest, and untrustworthy. when it came to describing the male candidates, they were more likely to be called -- honest as opposed to dishonest. question is, are women politicians judged more harshly than their male counterparts?
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with me, national journal correspondent lucia grey. let's talk about the study about the way women are perceived as opposed to the way men are. >> i think one of the things that polling shows is something that a lot of us know intuitively, which is that when it comes to male politicians we tend to forgive and forget their transgressions and fibs. when it comes to female poll significances we remember everything. >> but it's -- remembering them is one thing. how you describe them and how you describe those transgressions is something else. he on the other hand though, both clinton and fiorina have been criticized over their past records. is it fair to say they're being judged more harshly than men just because they received a negative ratinging? >> there are things to criticize them for, fiorina in particular said something in the last debates about planned parenthood that the media really went after her for which turned out to be incorrect. hillary clinton has the e-mail
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scandal. real reasons why we should be questioning how much she's telling the truth. but when you look at the numbers, when you look at politifact, male candidates are actually telling the truth much less often than women are and yet we see female politicians as more dishonest for some reason. >> so what do you think this is due to? >> i think there are a number of things. ironically i think women in general are seen as more empathetic and trustworthy. when they enter the political arena it becomes a double-edged sword because we have these artificially high standards for women because we put them on a pedestal. as soon as they make a mistake, make a misstep as fiorina did in the last debate about her comment around planned parenthood, they just have so much farther to fall than male candidates. >> lucia graves, thank you very much for being with me this morning. we're following several developing stories this morning here on msnbc.
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live pictures from las vegas where later this evening the democrats will square off in their first debate. we'll break down what's at stake for hillary clinton, bernie sanders and the rest of the field. plus, on the republican side, jeb bush is just minutes away from unveiling his plan to repeal and replace obamacare. keep an eye on that live event for you as well. big news out of the investigation into what brought down malaysia airlines flight mh-17. investigators confirm it was shot down by a russian-made missile. a lot more in a live report next. i'm meteorologist bill karins in the business travel forecast is about as quiet and nice as could be. only major airport could see some minor problems would be miami with some afternoon thunderstorms. we're also watching very warm conditions from texas covering much of the west with some near-record highs possible in
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will have their work cut out for them tonight as we try to get past weak poll numbers. msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt and steve kornacki start our coverage. casey, what are you going to be watching for tonight? >> jose, good morning. we know this is going to be potentially a turning point for hillary clinton's campaign. it could also be a turning appointment for the democratic party. hillary clinton served as barack obama's secretary of state but as the campaign's evolved and she's come up against bernie sanders she's made some moves to the left. one of the questions i have for tonight is whether this is still barack obama's democratic party. >> like nearly everyone in the news media, the three of us are totally in the tank for senator obama. >> reporter: the last time hillary clinton was on the debate stage, then-senator barack obama was such a media darling, the president was mocked for it. >> maybe we should ask ba ram if he's comfortable and needs another pillow. >> reporter: six and a half
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years later, obama is leaving the stage and the democratic field is racing to the left. >> my trade policies will break that cycle of agreements which enrich the few at the expense of the many. >> reporter: with sanders surging, a defensive clinton has started to match him and oppose the president on policy issue after policy issue. even questioning the obama administration's approach to deportations. >> i thinke have to go back to being a much less harsh and aggressive enforcer. >> reporter: still, the democratic field has mostly steered clear of directly attacking the president. his overall approval rating is 48%, but it's 83% among democrats. >> do you think if you could run again and did run again you would be elected? >> yes. >> you do. >> i do. >> reporter: the president's biggest advocate is missing from the stage this time. but if joe biden decides to run, the next debate would feature a loyal defender. >> now is the time to heed the timeless advice from teddy
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roosevelt -- speak softly and carry a big stick. i promise you, the president has a big stick. >> reporter: the fever pitch of speculation about joe biden is in some ways reaching a peak here and could i think from talking to sources end up being on the down swing. and is it actually teetering on the edge of fatigue out here, jose. >> kasie hunt in las vegas, thank you very much. steve, good morning. hillary clinton participated in more than 20 debates in the 2008 election season. far less this time around. what do we know about hillary clinton the debater? >> everybody probably has memories of those sort of epic encounters, hillary clinton, barack obama, for a while john edwards and a few others. joe biden were up on stage with them in 2002008. i think we saw some lessons that we could apply as we look ahead to setting expectations for tonight. first, there's sort of the
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worst-case scenario for hillary clinton. her worst moment was in the fall of 2007. nbc's tim russert was moderating the debate. the issue was driver's licenses for illegal immigrants. it was a question that hillary clinton did not want to deal with directly, did not appear prepared to deal with directly. russert pressed her on it. this was the exchange that resulted. >> senator clinton, i just want to make sure that i heard. do you, the new york senator, hillary clinton, support the new york governor's plan to give illegal immigrants a driver's license? you told the new hampshire paper it made a lot of sense. do you support his plan? >> you know, tim, this is where everybody plays gotcha. it makes a lot of sense. what is the governor supposed to do? he is dealing with a serious problem. we have failed and george bush has failed. do i think this is the best thing for any governor to do? no. >> now a lot of people looked back at that moment in the fall of 2007 going into that debate,
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hillary clinton had a very healthy lead over barack obama nationally and in the early states. the momentum in that race began to shift to barack obama after that debate. a lot of people think that the sort of evasiveness that she showed in dealing with that question had something to do with obama's subsequent rise. now what hillary clinton's tried to do in the run up to this debate, she's tried to prevent those sorts of opening, an issue like the keystone pipeline. you could see a few weeks ago that was something they were going to press her on in this debate. she's now taken a position -- she's against it. the tpp, transpacific partnership, she had no position, now she does. she says she's against it. she's rolled out a wall street reform package. that's something you can expect bernie sanders to be raising. so she's coming to this thing tonight with a lot more ammunition potentially to deal with situations like this. but the wild card if you think back to that exchange we just showed, it was not her fellow opponent who it was so much the moderator who was pressing her into that uncomfortable spot. that's the thing to look for
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tonight when you look especially to the issue of e-mails. it won't be her fellow opponents on the stageness airline who press her on e-mails but there will be a moderator and panelists there who could do that. on the flip side if you're on the other side of the stage with hillary clinton, you do have to wonder about how much do we attack her, how much do we go after her, is there a blowback risk. this is another famous moment from that '08 campaign. this was barack obama and hillary clinton on the eve of the new hampshire primary. obama had a big lead in new hampshire. they had this famous exchange. >> what can you say to the voters of new hampshire on this stage tonight who see a resume and like it, but are hesitating on the likability issue where they seem to like barack obama more? >> well, that hurts my feelings. >> i'm sorry, senator. i'm sorry. >> but i'll try to go on.
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he's very likable. i agree with that. i don't think i'm that bad. >> you're likable enough, hillary. >> thank you. >> likable enough. sort of an infamous comment from barack obama. you remember what happened that night going into that debate, barack obama had a double-digit lead in new hampshire. everybody thought he was going to roll over her there and end the race. she had this incredible last-minute surge of support. again, a lot of people looked at that moment as one that really humanized her. obama came off terribly in that moment. there was this big reversal where she ended up winning new hampshire. it wasn't enough to win the nomination but it is the reason that race ended up going on so long and that moment just shows the risk that you face. if you're bernie sanders, if you're martin o'malley, if you're any of these other candidates on stage and you start getting negative with hillary clinton, you could look bad. >> steve kornacki, thank you. let's bring in a democratic congressman from arizona and 1
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of now 2 members of congress endorsing bernie sanders. congressman, how are you? >> thank you, jose. >> what do you expect to hear from senator sanders tonight especially when it comes to challenging hillary clinton for example? >> i think -- what i expect to hear from bernie is what i think the american people have been hearing for the last three or four months. it is a message. it is a message about economic fairness. it is going to be a message about the role that government has in investing in its people and not what we see now dismantling our government and making government something evil to the american people. and i think if bernie sticks to his message, defends his message when necessary during this debate, i think he'll do fine. i don't see this as much as a personality contest as i see it a contest of ideas. if the contest of ideas is the primary focus tonight, bernie
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will do fine. >> but congressman, for example, hillary clinton just came out against tpp. bernie's against tpp. she's gotten on a lot of issues more similar to the positions that bernie sanders has had for some time now. so what are the real differences and what is it that bernie sanders could show, do or prove tonight that would be different from hillary clinton who clearly has the support of a lot more people? >> i think what bernie with a much wider audience is going to be able to do. this is not a flash in the pan, that his consistency over three decades is something that the american people have to appreciate and understand, that the issues that he has championed in the past and now others have adopted in terms of how their opposition to some issues, whether it is tpp, whether it is keystone, et cetera, are issues that he
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championed. a very lonely way for many years. i think understand that. it's not a question of being a trail blazer as much as it is, i believe, to be consistent, to be genuine, to be authentic and that's what people are responding to with bernie. they aren't flocking to him at rallies and everything because there is a personality cult. no. it is an idea that he's promoting. it's a message and that is where you have momentum. think after that today momentum will continue. >> so congressman, what do you think the main message is that bernie sanders has to show tonight to the american people that would make him maybe more widespread, understood and supported? because right now, we've been focusing on, for example, the first two -- the primary and caucus states. he has a very good stand there, but when you go to nevada and other states, he doesn't seem to have gotten that same level of support. what does he have to do to get a national audience of support?
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>> i think this is a breakthrough opportunity with this debate for bernie and i think what -- bernie knows that. he discussed it openly at the rally here in tucson, that this campaign is an inclusive campaign. this is a diverse america that we're dealing with and to speak to those issues. tied and anchored and tethered by the idea of economic fairness. wage disparity, income inequality, concentration of wealth, concentration of political power in a few billionaires are messages that resonate across the board. and as that audience widens, i think you're going to be able -- you're going to see that with the depth of the support that he has from a variety of constituencies and a variety of demographics across this country. >> congressman, thank you for being with me. appreciate your time. right now in manchester, new hampshire, jeb bush is about to outline his plan to repeal and replace the affordable care act.
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there you see him about to take the stage. it's all taking place at the new hampshire institute of politics in manchester. that's where nbc's chris jansing is. chris, what are we expecting to hear? >> reporter: well, you're going to hear some things that are definitely targeted to those more conservative republican voters who have not shown much enthusiasm as to this point for jeb bush who had been expected to be doing much better here by now and he started running ads about 2 1/2 weeks ago which shows you the concern that his campaign has. this is part of a series that he's been doing to show that he is a substantive candidates, that he has a plan. it also follows what the polls show about republicans. they really don't like obamacare but they don't want to get rid of some sort of plan all together. they want to know what is the plan for replacing it. that's what he's going to outline. it is going to talk more about how more power should go back to the states and also give him an opportunity to show what he did as governor of florida. he thinks he has a positive record there.
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it will return more choice to individuals, something that they say that obamacare takes away, and they also look at what it will mean in terms of savings, although it is difficult top quantify exactly what that will be since the proposal is only two pages long. maybe we'll get some more details on that today. interesting, since we last spoke an hour ago, i went into the crowd and talked to people, and they really are looking for what the alternatives are. this is a chance for him, albeit in front of a small crowd, to do something to change people's minds. >> chris, thank you very much. let's listen in for a few moments. >> -- if we fix a few big things, we can transform ourselves because we are the most dynamic country in the world. not just health care but across the spectrum of policy to make lives better for ourselves and our children and our grandchildren. this is going to require a new approach on how we allow people to stay healthy, how we reward that, treat illness and support life saving medical discoveries and care.
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in fact, let me just give you a couple of anecdotes that i think will validate this. in my own personal life, next week or week after next, on the 20th anniversary of an event my wife and i have been involved in to raise money for cystic fibrosis. been doing it 20 years. when we began this people would say, i remember, children were dying before they became adults with this disease. people would say, well, if we keep working hard, eventually we'll find a cure. well, in fact today if you're born with cystic fibrosis, there are medicines that have been discovered in the last three or four years and more on the way that ultimately will allow someone with cystic fibrosis to live as long as everybody else. our grandchildren being born today, if we get this right, will live way beyond 100 years. it creates huge challenges but it is also an opportunity for us to transform our society in a way that will allow more and more people to live lives of purpose and meaning. but here's the problem. the one thing i know is this -- we can't stick with the status
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quo. we can't leave this up to the lobbyists and to the politicians in washington, d.c. because the system we have today, obamacare and its most current form, was written by the special interests for the special interests. let's look at what had been promised and what we got instead. president obama -- >> governor of florida, jeb bush, outlining his plan to repeal and replace obamacare as we know it. the former florida governor in manchester, new hampshire. chris janising was just telling us the basic tenets of his place. investigators say a russian-made warhead is responsible for downing malaysian airlines mh-17. it went down over eastern ukraine killing all 298 people on board. that's the same area where government troops have been locked in conflict with
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pro-russia rebels. tom costello covers aviation for us. tom, what more are we learning about this final report released today? >> it really was comprehensive and it is stunning. this videotape the dutch released today. this is a time lapse showing how they put this plane back together again. a boeing 777 that they put back together again at a military hangar in the netherlands. look at the detailed work that they did methodically, piece by piece, putting this plane back together again. that helped them solve what they say is the mystery or provide answers to what happened. here is animation that the dutch providing today showing what they say is a series of events. it begins with what they say is a russian-fired missile, a russian missile, i should say, a russian missile, that explodes right next to malaysia flight 17. it just showered the cockpit, as you can see, with slhrapnel. that's important because that shrapnel and the fragments that were exploding there into the
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cockpit were later recovered from the victims, from the cockpit crew and they used those pieces of evidence to determine what they say happened to malaysia flight 17. a short time ago, the chairman of the dutch safety board. >> as a result of the detonation, the forward part of the airplane was torn off. the airplane broke up in the air. the wreckage came down in an area of about 50 kilometers in the eastern part of ukraine. the missile was launched from a 320-square kilometer area in eastern part of ukraine. >> of course, that's contested territory. what the dutch are not saying is who fired that missile. but they do say it is a russian-built missile. they believe it is an sa-11, a buk missile. that is the missile that brought down malaysia flight 17. however, now the dutch and -- pardon me, the americans and the
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ukrainians say that that was fired either by russian separatists or by russian forces themselves. the russians deny that. they say absolutely not, it was fired by ukrainian forces who also have access to the same type of missile. so today you've got this very compelling piece of forensics investigative body of work that's now been concluded by the dutch. they have not yet said who fired the missile but they say the evidence is very clear what brought down malaysia flight 17, 298 people from a dozen countries. two-thirds of them were dutch. because that flight originatesed in the netherlands, that's why the dutch took the lead on this investigation. back to you. >> tom costello, thank you very much. lots of events unfolding this hour. keeping close watch on jeb bush live in new hampshire unveiling his plan to repeal and replace obamacare. and a trial that hits at the heart of the gun debate in the country. a milwaukee jury now deliberating whether a gun store illegally sold a weapon eventually used to shoot two police officers.
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i'll have more on this for you. plus, one of the greatest rescues ever captured on camera. it's been five years since 33 miners emerged after ten weeks trapped in a mine in chile. we'll have more on this with natalie morales and kerry sanders right here on msnbc live. excellent looking below the surface, researching a hunch... and making a decision you are type e*. time for a change of menu. research and invest from any website. with e*trade's browser trading. e*trade. opportunity is everywhere. trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax constipated? use dulcolax tablets for gentle overnight relief suppositories for relief in minutes and stool softeners for comfortable relief of hard stools. dulcolax, designed for dependable relief
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history was made after 33 miners trapped in a collapsed mine for more than two months all rescued in northern chile. at 2,300 feet below, the incredible rescue was all captured live. every miner, one by one, pulled out via 26-inch wide capsule. nbc's natalie morales and kerry
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sanders both witnessed the emotional moment actually right there. kerry and natalie, thank you both for being with me. natalie, you were actually live for nbc. i was live for telemundo. you were there as rescues were happening five years ago. what was that like? >> kerry and i were both there. we had been there for the build-up, the first two weeks leading up to that rescue. i got to tell you, we were on pins and needles not knowing if it was going to happen as expected. of course, they even had a nasa plan designed to help them come out of the mine shaft. but until you saw the first man come out, you didn't know what was going to happen. and it was like witnessing a miracle. i think it's still to this day, kerry and i both say it is the greatest story i think i've ever covered because we, sadly in our business, cover too many stories with not happy endings. here's one where you actually had something so incredible and miraculous happen live. >> kerry, tell us exactly -- a lot of folks may not remember,
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these guys were under rocks in this collapsed mine for months. >> yeah. and it was the hardest rock on earth, they say. not diamonds, but hard, hard, hard rock so they had three teams trying to figure out how to drill down to get to these men. the first question was drilling down to confirm that they were alive. they did a tiny, tiny little -- about that big of a hole just to get down there and drop notes up and down to confirm that they were alive and amazing. they were all alive. not just a few of them. they were all alive. they were all trapped inside this mine. then the real race was on, who could get a big enough hole bored down there to get down there. they had three teams, one from australia, one from america, another team from chile and it turned out the team from america was the first one to get down to them. these guys are from colorado. they are true heroes. they were in afghanistan drilling for the u.s. military when they were told we need you
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to leave from afghanistan and go to chile. they thought it was a fake story. they didn't really believe it was true. so it was amazing. i know natalie feels the same way i do. jose, i fill feel like go -- ch chi, chi, chi, le, le, le. >> natalie, it is a small town, not even near -- >>. >> it is stunning. it looks like a moon scape. you are out there in the middle of nowhere but it is absolutely the most stunning backdrop. at night it would get really, really cold. during the day it would heat up to about 90, 95 degrees. but i have to say, as much of a hollywood ending as this story was and still is, it is important to point out though that these 33 miners, they are still suffering today. many of them feel like they have been forgotten. they have been -- although they
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became pin stant celebri became instant celebritiecelebry of them are broke. the government never paid them for the accident. there is the movie "33" coming out this month starring antonio banderas. but important to note that their story and what happens since then in those five years. their story is largely one of depression and dealing with the aftermath of what they endured for those 69, 70 days until they were rescued. >> it is really an amazing story. it is extraordinary that they all got out alive. it is so great to see you both. you both did such an amazing job five years. can you believe five years have passed? >> i can't. i can't. we have such fond memories. kerry and i talk all the time about the night we were in the sleeping bag in the desert watching the rescue happen live. >> it was cold! it was very cold. >> very cold. >> so exciting.
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>> amazing. >> natalie morales and kerry sanders, thank you both for being with me. for once, it's what playboy won't reveal that's grabbing the nation's attention. we'll explain coming up right here on msnbc live. proud of you, son. ge! a manufacturer. well that's why i dug this out for you. it's your grandpappy's hammer and he would have wanted you to have it. it meant a lot to him... yes, ge makes powerful machines. but i'll be writing the code that will allow those machines to share information with each other. i'll be changing the way the world works. (interrupting) you can't pick it up, can you? go ahead. he can't lift the hammer. it's okay though! you're going to change the world.
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these years is just not special anymore. >> reporter: debuting in 1953, marilyn monroe was the original cover girl. what followed was more than 60 years of models, celebrities and movie stars who posed nude. but over time the pioneer began to plummet. circulation thrived in 1975. 5.6 million. today, it's just over 800,000. >> it's been a wonderful ride. it's not over yet. >> reporter: hugh hefner created "playboy," and many say changed the way americans see sex. >> i don't think that any other magazine in the 20th century had more influence on america and the world. and that's a pretty wild position to be in. >> reporter: "playboy," with all its struggles, remains a brand valued around the globe. but times are changing, and so is "playboy." >> i think this is the beginning of the end for "playboy" as we know it. >> reporter: more than just pictures, the magazine has profiled politicians, economists and artists.
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largely withdraw from afghanistan next year. for more on that, i'm joined by former u.s. ambassador to the u.n., bill richardson. he's also a former governor, former energy secretary under bill clinton and an msnbc contributor. governor, how are you? >> i'm great. nice to you with you. >> thanks. do you believe the candidates have to say tonight what they would do differently when it comes to, for example, syria? >> well, yes, i think that this is the big moment for the challengers. hillary clinton's a front-runner. on syria, bernie sanders may say secretary clinton, you're for a no-fly zone, that's going to inflame things with assad, get us more involved. i would be against that. there's daylight between president obama and hillary clinton on that. on afghanistan, i don't think there will be much differences because most of the candidates -- except for jim webb who is a former navy secretary -- i mean feel we
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should accelerate the withdrawal from afghanistan. there will be other issues. obviously i don't think benghazi will come up because i think it would be perilous for the candidates to attack secretary clinton on that one because it seems to be generating a partisan investigation by the congress. so this is a moment when candidates -- i remember when i was on the stage, you want to shine in debates where they're not concentratcentrating on youe you are not a front-runner. >> how do you do that, governor? how do you go into a debate -- this time around there are so few debates on the democratic side. a lot of the other candidates want more. but how do you enter into a debate arena when you really don't have the spotlight? what do you have to do? how do you prepare for that? >> you prepare to come up with a great line, either that or you seek out a difference, a contrast between you and the
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front-runner, hillary clinton. because most of the focus will be on clinton and sanders. so i think if you're the other candidates, you've got to do something spectacular or generate some type of enthusiasm through a remarkable speech. but it can happen. so i expect this debate to be able to get hillary clinton off this e-mail thing, off the benghazi issue. she's a very good debater. good on policy positions, and on foreign policy which you've asked, she can say that she restored america's relationship with europe, with asia, after years of neglect, that she's responsible for the sanctions that brought iran to the table on this nuclear deal. she's a former senator, 9/11 issues. so i think this is an opportunity for her to shine, too. but i think sanders has to draw some kind of a contrast with her at the same time that he's staying positive. >> but then there are also the issue, for example, of russia.
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remember the famous reset button? that button didn't apparently work very well. how does she differentiate herself from some of the policy that she feels wasn't successful and say, listen, i am a different person, candidate? >> well, i do think she may be a little vulnerable on that issue but not until the general election when republicans will look at the u.s./russia relationship. i think within the primary tomorrow, this evening, i don't think there will be much attacks or criticism on russia because i think most of the candidates running against hillary are to her left. so what you might see is maybe the reset didn't work. i think we need a new approach towards russia. but i don't see russia playing an important role in the primary. in the general, that will be fodder for whoever the republican candidate is against
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secretary clinton and the democrats. >> ambassador richardson, it is a pleasure seeing you. thank you for being with me. >> thank you, jose. a jury in milwaukee will continue deliberating today in a controversial case against a gun shop that sold a gun used to injure two police officers. those two officers are suing the store for selling that weapon. let's get more from nbc's kifev tibbles in chicago. >> reporter: jose, we're still waiting as the jury deliberates. they have a number of decisions to make as this case proceeds. but what makes it extremely interesting is the fact that this is only the second time a case such as this has actually made it to trial. gun shop dealers and manufacturers have actually enjoyed some form of immunity for the last decade or so after gun laws were passed that granted them that sort of immunity from being sued in cases like this. but this is primarily a civil
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case where these two officers who were shot by a young man who purchased a gun in this store have now gone after the store. what we're talking about here is a straw sale, jose. that's basically this young man purchased the gun from the store, but in effect what he did was go into the store with another young man who was 21 years of age and was old enough to purchase the gun. so it was the other young man who purchased the gun, a straw sale. essentially purchased it for the other young man who one month later shot these two officers. that is the basis for this case. that is the reason why these two officers are now suing the gun shop for upwards of $9 million. >> kevin tibbles, thank you very much. up next, jeb bush in new hampshire unveiling his plan to repeal and replace obamacare. steve kornacki has more on the plan after a break. r next arriv. whoa! toenail fungus!?
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so what will happen when hillary clinton and bernie sanders finally get a chance to come face to face in tonight's debate? there will be a big difference from the campaign trail where clinton has barely even mentioned sapders' name. on monday she focused on the leading republican instead. >> those that want to send a message to mr. trump that if you are going to run for president, then you should represent all the people of the united states. brian, good seeing you. so she's gone out of her way to focus on the republicans and not her democratic rivals. so far it's apparently working for her. she's going to not focus on democrats, the people running against her ever? or is this a night where you're going to hear her kind of elucidate differences between
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them? >> well, we're really looking forward to tonight's debate for one main reason. it is an opportunity to rise above the partisan din. conversation has been dominated in recent weeks by a lot of insult hurling and bombast that you've of heard on the republican side. on our side it seems like every day there is a in you revelation about republicans trying to politicize this benghazi committee investigation to try to damage hillary clinton politically. but this debate tonight will be an opportunity for her to lay out in rich detail the policies that she's been putting out over the last several weeks and months that will make a difference for working class families. in the last three weeks alone she's rolled out a common sense set gun safety proposals. a real crackdown on wall street. and a real plan to constrain rising out-of-pocket costs on prescription drugs. so this is an opportunity for us to break through on those impressive bold set of policies that we really think will make a difference for the american people. >> let me rephrase that though.
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is she going to be showing a difference or underlining the differences between her policies and those of the other democrats running for the primaries? is that going to be also included other than the points that she wants to get out? >> there's going to be a good exchange of ideas, i expect, tonight. so as is normal for any debate, i'm sure some of those differences will surface. but i think that in the overall sense you will see a big difference from this debate versus the two republican debates we've seen so far where there's been a focus on their side on personal attacks. i don't think you'll see that tonight. hillary clinton will certainly be ready for anything that comes at her, whether it is from the moderators or the other candidates on that stage. but i think you will see a focus on real substance and policy. >> talk about for example, tpp. she seemed to be changing her mind on the keystone project. it took her a while to come to the table on that.
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you were talking about, for example, gun safety issues, wall street reform, cost of prescription drugs. those are issues that bernie sanders has been talking about pretty consistently for years now. is that a difference between them? or are all these projects that she's bringing out kind of bringing us to today for the debate? i think there's some differences even on those issues that you just mentioned. i think those will come out in the course of the conversation tonight but i think it will be a very civil substantive exchange. but overall you mentioned keystone. i know there's also been some focus on tpp. look, voters know who hillary clinton is and what she's about and what she's been fighting for. this is somebody who right after law school went to the children's defense fund. didn't go to a white-shoe law firm. she's been someone who stands up for families and children her entire career and that will come through. voters know who she is. her north star in this campaign and what would be her north star
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as president is rising wakee ii. we need to get incomes up. the president has gone a great job lifting us up out of an historic recession. we need incomes to rise. thaels the test she applies for every policy stance she's taken in this campaign including on issues like the trade deal. >> brian, appreciate your time this morning. jeb bush just wrapped up a speech in new hampshire where he spoke about his alternative to president obama's signature health care law. let's bring in msnbc's steve kornacki with the details. >> he's up in new hampshire. we've heard for years since 2010 since congress first passed obamacare, the republican refrain has been we want to repeal and replace it with something else. today jeb bush unveiling key components, replacing subsidies
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with tax credits that would be available to people who don't have health insurance through their employers right now. he also talks about raising the amount of tax-free money that people can put into these so-called health savings accounts, money they can then turn around and spend on health care. listen to how he played this out in new hampshire a few minutes ago. >> you can't stick with the status quo. we can't leave this up to lobbyists and up to the politicians in washington, d.c. because the system we have today, obamacare in its most current form, was wristen by the special interests for the special interests. >> he talked about taking care of people sort of transitional plans for people who are currently getting some benefits from obamacare. some of the knocks you're already hearing about jeb bush's plan today, he isn't specifying the number of people who would be receiving coverage on that, the number of people still left without coverage under this plan. also one possible line of attack from democrats would be that what would be available, the level of health care coverage that would be available to
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people getting these tax credits may not be as sophisticated as high quality as they are getting under obamacare. but the really interesting thing here is, it has been more than five years since obamacare passed in congress, since it was signed into law. yet the politics on this remain totally and completely polarized. if you ask people should obamacare be repealed or should they let it stand, right down the middle, 46% say repeal it, 48% say let it stand. you break that down among parties on the republican side, almost everyone says repeal it. still 84%-12% is the margin there. on the democratic side, the complete opposite. 15% say repeal it, 82% say let it stand. politics despite this thing happening 5 1/2 years ago, politics are still exactly where they were on that day when obamacare first passed. >> steve kornacki, thank you. up next, a spliceurprise a e
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so, today "playboy" announced it will be covering up, will no longer publish nude know toes but they assure the magazine will still feature women in provocative poses. just not completely nude. but beyond the nudity, the magazine is also known for its articles. dr. martin luther king jr. spoke to the magazine shortly after receiving the nobel peace prize and talked about his biggest mistake in leading the civil rights movement. it was the longest interview he ever gave a publication. two, malcolm x during his 1963 interview. he was asked about the practicality of his vision. three, president jimmy carter. the president actually set off "quite the scandal" with his interview after confessing to lusting after women saying that by doing so he committed adultery in his heart many times. music, number four. miles davis, the iconic jazz artist said he didn't pay
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attention to what critics said about him and spoke of his frustrations with people caring too much about him. and five, john lennon and yoko o ono. the couple spoke to the magazine a year before the legend's death. sadly during the interview, lennon's hopeful about another 40 years of productivity when it came to his music. can you believe just last week john lennon was turning 75 years old? that wraps up the hour on msnbc live. thank you for the privilege of your time. tamron hall is up next. i'll see you tomorrow.
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for an edge. hillary clinton makes a surprise visit to a union rally outside trump hotel in vegasing with while bernie sanders addresses a bipartisan group of groups in new hampshire. a challenge to the law banning assault weapons. how the case could have major ramifications on similar bans across the country. plus, did the internet kill "playboy"? the magazine announces a head-to-toe makeover after 62 years saying nudity is out. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. the democratic candidates are getting ready to take the stage tonight in vegas for their
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high-stakes debate. for months the two leading candidates, hillary clinton and bernie sanders, have avoided personal attacks on each other. the question is whether that will change in any way tonight. clinton of course a ven of more than 20 debates during her 2008 presidential run, while sanders has never faced a debate this big. at the same time, the three long-shot candidates -- martin o'malley, jim webb and lincoln chaffee, will try to have breakout performances. arriving in las vegas late yesterday, hillary clinton showed up on donald trump's doorstep. his hotel on the vegas strip. she joined a rally of union workers demanding that trump allow employees there to unionize. >> some people think mr. trump is entertaining, but i don't think it's entertaining when somebody insults immigrants, insults women. that is just unacceptable behavior. and so when we're here together in


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