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>> evidently we've got two passengers that are in a physical altercation so we need to get turned around back to lax. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. the center of the political universe for sure for the next 48 hours after two sources close to the vice president tells nbc's kristen welker that his decision could roll out in the next 48 hours. this as hillary clinton goes off the campaign trail to begin intensive preparations for that all-important benghazi testimony this week. and house republicans are returning to find out whether paul ryan is, in fact, all in to run for speaker. joining me now for our daily fix, chris cillizza, msnbc contributor and founder of the "washington post" fix blog. "usa today" washington bureau chief susan page. and nbc white correspondent
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kristen welker. welcome, all. kristen, first to you. tell us what your sources are telling you with the usual caveats. >> reporter: right. well, my sources are telling me that the vice president could make his final decision within the next 48 hours. a third source cautioning, though, that only the vice president knows when he will decide. the important caveats that you mentioned are of course that the vice president has blown past several other deadlines. you will recall he said he was going to decide by the end of the summer and now we are into mid-october. having said that, he is getting a lot of pressure from his supporters to make this final decision known. in part because if he is going to run, they want to get to work. if he's not going to run, they want to know that as well. also important to note, we don't know what form this is going to come in. could it come from his surrogates, through a leak. those are things that remain to be seen. we do know that the vice president is looking into this very seriously. over the weekend, in fact, it was on friday he had a 20-minute
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phone call with the president of the international association of firefighters, a powerful union. we know it was a very substantive conversation. they discussed fund-raising, structure, strategy, and according to a source familiar with that call, shapeburger came away from that thinking vice president biden was likely going to get into this race. the vice president himself cautioning that he still had to make a final gut decision. so we anticipate that that is what vice president biden is doing in these final hours. lot of pressure for him, by the way, to come out before secretary clinton testifies on thursday. a critical test for her before the benghazi committee. >> and chris cillizza, there is new polling, cnn, monmouth showing hillary clinton up, bernie sanders up, and the vice president losing a little altitude since the big debate. >> yeah. i think some of that's to be expected. you are only the new thing for so long. in these kind of elections, and in this kind of media environment where we live, so long is a very short period of time. i think joe biden will almost
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certainly make a decision this week, as kristen mentioned, thursday with hillary on the hill, if she does poorly, there's a sense that you are sort of the political vulture coming in after that and announcing. if she does well, there will be even more of a drumbeat after her performance in the debate that says why do we need joe biden. this feels like the next couple days feels like the time he needs to do it both logistically speaking and these polls, you want to get in, politics is about timing, you want to get in when people are most interested in hearing from you. joe biden may be just a little bit on the wrong side of that, though. obviously he can make that sort of thing up if he does wind up running. >> what does bernie sanders think about all this? let's watch. >> i'm the only candidate up here who is not a billionaire. i don't have a super pac. i don't even have a backpack. i carry my stuff around loose in my arms like a professor between classes. i own one pair of underwear.
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that's it. some of these billionaires, they got three, four pairs. and i don't have a dryer. i have to put my clothes on the radiator. >> you have more than one pair of underwear? >> next question. thanks, everybody. >> it's a serious question. yes. last week i bought my second pair of underwear. that's a joke. please don't write it down. that was a joke. i have ample supply of underwear. >> i guess even democratic socialists have enough money for underwear. >> what a wonderful thing that was on "saturday night live." we should elect him president so we can have larry david come back and do his impression over and over again. wasn't that the essence of bernie sanders' appeal, which is that he's authentic, if you look up authentic in a dictionary, there will be a little picture of bernie sanders there. >> the whole riff about the
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banks and why do they tie down the pens, why the pens chained down. i can't do brooklyn but it was so great. >> i agree. i love alec baldwin as jim webb, too. we need more debates so that "saturday night live" can do more skits off the debates. that's a strong martin o'malley argument to debbie wasserman schultz. >> kristen, what we haven't seen maybe out of deference to the grief that he is going through, we haven't seen an "snl" parody of joe biden. maybe it's time. >> reporter: maybe it is time. in fact, that skit this weekend that we think who would play vice president joe biden, of course one of the strong arguments that his supporters make is that he has the authenticity element that he would bring to this race. if "snl" will start spoofing him they have to take that into consideration. >> i can see larry david with a different accent doing joe biden. thank you all very much.
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we will stay on top of it and keep checking in. kristen, susan and chris cillizza. donald trump ramping up attacks against jeb bush after blaming george w. bush for 9/11. >> do you blame george w. bush for 9/11? >> look, jeb said we were safe with my brother. we were safe. well, the world trade center just fell down. now, am i trying to blame him? i'm not blaming anybody. but the world trade center came down. when he said we were safe, that's not safe. >> dueling twitter take-downs spilled into today with the latest from the republican front-runner tweeting jeb is fighting to defend a catastrophic event. i'm fighting to make sure it doesn't happen again. jeb is too soft. we need tougher and sharper. jeb defended his brother again sunday. >> my brother responded to a crisis and he did it as you would hope a president would do. he united the country, he organized our country and he kept us safe. i don't know why he keeps bringing this up.
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it doesn't show that he's a serious person as it relates to being commander in chief and being the architect of a foreign policy. >> msnbc political analyst, former republican chairman michael steele joins me now. michael, the reason why trump keeps bringing it up is it seems to be working. it's getting under jeb bush's skin and jeb bush's polling has just collapsed since he's been called, you know, too lethargic by donald trump. >> it is a little bit curious. he's got a six-fold lead over jeb bush in most of the polls, certainly in places like iowa and new hampshire, where they really -- the polls really do matter. this seems to be a level of baiting that really, i think, has some consequences for both teams. one for jeb bush in how he responds to it. i really think jeb has to get to the point where he says to donald trump shut the hell up. i mean, that's the point he's at rieg n
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right now. if he doesn't show that level of push-back, yeah, the argument that he's lethargic and weak will take hold and it will be much harder later on. for donald trump, he's running the risk of taking down his own credibility. no one is blaming george bush for 9/11 happening. to make that kind of leap, everyone knows what jeb was saying when jeb said he kept us safe, in the intervening years he's kept us safe. would trump blame roosevelt for pearl harbor? would he blame, you know, bill clinton for what happened, the terrorist bombings that happened at world trade and elsewhere at the time? no. so the reality of it is you hurt your own credibility at a point and donald trump is dangerously close to doing that. >> our colleague peter alexander has reported on the "today" program that jeb was ready with an ad to go against trump. here's an excerpt of it. >> you have said publicly he watches cable news and that's
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one of the ways he bones up on our national security. >> trump says he quote, always felt that i was in the military despite never serving in the military and draft deferments during vietnam. >> there's nobody bigger or better at the military. >> so they were ready to go up against him, maybe they unrolled it sooner than they would have otherwise, but at the same time, trump has an argument you could say, there were those e-mails that were later uncovered by the 9/11 commission saying that there could be an attack that hadn't been read or briefed on august 11th, i think it was, 9/11 or rather, the month before. >> yeah. i mean, look, there's a lot of evidence like that and a lot of second guessing about what could have been done, what should have been done. i think the more appropriate argument for both of these candidates to talk about is how they would protect the country
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going forward. in the age of isis, what is your solution to making sure that we do not have another 9/11 here. going back and relitigating what happened before 9/11 has already been litigated by the various commission thas have looked at it, the various reports from the hill, and investigations by the white house. so i really think that in terms of a point going forward, it is better to be on the offense of how you protect the country in the age of isis as opposed to relitigating 9/11. >> speaking of relitigating a foreign policy disaster, a tragedy but not of course on the scale of 9/11, benghazi. this is the week of benghazi. >> yes. >> the democrats of today, we have gotten a report, part of their report or their report which says that none of the witnesses so far have substantiated repeated republican members' claims and leaks from the committee concluding that none of the witnesses substantiated repeated
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claims about former secretary of state hillary clinton for the past three years relating to the attacks in benghazi and then there was this. chuck todd questioning the congressman from the benghazi committee yesterday on "meet the press." >> why haven't you called the following witnesses. general carter, who led a u.s. african command at that time. samantha power, who was in the white house now, ambassador to u.n. you could have called her. former cia director at the time, general petraeus hasn't been called. leon panetta hasn't been called. why haven't these people been called before your committee if this is about benghazi? they were all there at the time. >> chuck, we are not done. you may think this investigation ends on thursday but let me assure you that it does not. we began in may and we are going to continue. this on thursday is one more step along the way. >> so michael steele, are they at risk of undermining their own credibility to say nothing of congressman hanna and majority leader mccarthy's comments? >> you used the right word, and
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the key word is credibility. i believe that the work of this committee has been undermined severely, not just by the recent comments by hanna and certainly mccarthy, the staffer, but even going back to the very inception of this whole process, they politicized this from the very beginning. that was the frustration of a number of republicans at the time and still remains so. i think hillary clinton will go in, she will put that shawl of political vulnerability around her and she will wear it well before this committee, and they may have additional opportunities and witnesses they want to call, but credibility is the key thing right now, and they don't have much of it, i'm afraid. >> michael steele, thank you. thanks as always. still to come, up in the air. this hour, the faa will announce new safety rules for recreational drones after too many close calls with passenger planes. first, more on benghazi.
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joe, if you decide to run at any time tonight, we will happily make room for you on the stage. no presh but we would love to have you. wouldn't we, candidates? >> uh-huh. >> okay. >> it is the joe biden waiting game. is it almost over? for some democrats the decision can't come soon enough. clinton campaign communications director jen palmieri joins me now. well, we have seen in all the
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polling that she does better in the polling in early states as well as the head-to-heads without joe biden in this race, so he takes more from her support than bernie sanders'. >> so it appears that the vice president is getting close to making his decision and i think whatever he decides, obviously he's the sitting vice president. if he got in the race, it would be a shakeup. but we feel confident that she is the best candidate, no matter who the other people that choose to run are and we'll see what his decision is. >> and there was a lot of reaction from within biden world to what john podesta said to me last wednesday, which was basically enough, already, decide, it's time, seemed to be pushing him. then you saw the ted kaufmann e-mail to all their supporters saying give him room, basically back off, stop pushing him so hard. >> yeah. i saw some reporting this morning that that confidant of
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the vice president's had said that he's not going to react to -- i can't believe that comes from someone who really knows him very well. i can't believe the vice president would suggest that saying a decision sooner rather than later is in everyone's interest is really bullying. i'm sure -- he's a pretty tough guy. >> hillary clinton is preparing for a very big week. some say this is a bigger test, the benghazi hearing this week, than the debate was. >> i think the debate is more important in terms of her being able to have a big audience where she's talking about the problems that she sees people facing and the solutions that she has, people that she's met on the campaign trail that she would help. we think that was a bigger moment. she is looking forward to thursday. she wants, you have heard her saying for many months she wants to answer all of the questions and move on. we do have concerns, obviously, about the political motivations from the formation of the committee to how it has operated, but she will be up there and she will answer every
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question that they have. >> trey gowdy, the chairman, had this to say. >> thursday is about what happened before, during and after and frankly, in secretary clinton's defense, she's going to have a lot more information about the before than she is the during and the after. so i get that there's a presidential campaign going on. i have told my own republican colleagues and friends shut up talking about things that you don't know anything about. >> nick merrill, one of your colleagues within the clinton campaign, suggested last week when huma abedin was testifying, the fact that these former aids, huma was part-time during this period, and non-aides like sidney blumenthal, as inappropriate as some of his communications may have been on the face of it, the fact that they were being called rather than the real players in the chain of command, was a real indication of where this committee's head was. >> it just doesn't add up why
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you would call someone like huma and not some of the people that chuck mentioned on "meet the press," the people from -- more people from the pentagon if they are looking at decisions about what happened, what happened that night. so there are lots of reasons from what the majority leader, kevin mccarthy, said to how the committee has operated, the people that they have called, the people that they haven't. that probably were more involved operationally in benghazi. there's lots of reasons to doubt the intentions of this committee and them being political. but you know, she's looking forward to doing this. she wants to answer all these questions. we think once she is through thursday, we are going to be done with this and she will have answered questions from all the media, she will have answered questions from the hill. this will be the eighth time the congressional committee has investigated this and it will be time to move on. >> of course, you can't move on until the fbi closes its books on this case.
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>> well, what the fbi is looking at is a security review. so that is something they will continue. we are happy to cooperate with that about the information over her e-mails being kept secure. but in terms of the politics of this and the questions she's answered and how she's dealt with this and having, you know, sat up there and answered every question this committee has on benghazi and whatever else, we think that we will -- i think particularly the voters, as we have seen, you have seen evidence of this elsewhere, that are really ready to move on. >> do you have any indication that that private server was hacked? >> no. >> we know there were attempts at phishing but any indication that anything was hacked? >> no. >> finally a quick question on gun control because the nra on the weekend really went after her. was she suggesting in her town hall meetings in new hampshire on friday, which she said she would look into the australian system, was she suggesting
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confiscation of guns? >> of course not. she was -- what she was referring to is places where there have been mass shootings and the countries have done something. she has put forward a very common-sense proposal that would have background checks for everyone, that would remove the special protections the gun industry has from liability but it's all very common-sense measures the majority of the public supports. >> does she like the idea of buy-backs? >> yes. a number of cities do do that. it's been effective. >> do you think she's going to be badly hurt by the nra's opposition? >> i do not. she, as you have heard her discuss this, this is an issue she really cares passionately about. there is no reason why we can't be doing more to keep guns out of the hands of people who shouldn't have them. most gun owners feel the same way. this is a fight she is very happy to have. >> jen palmieri, good to see you. thanks very much.
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captain declared an emergency which allowed them to have priority for landing. once they landed, the fbi tells nbc news that its agents took one of the passengers into custody, or detained him for questioning, though he was letter released and no arrests have been made. the fbi says they are looking for additional passengers, witnesses who left the airport before they were able to talk to them. so as of now, we have a fight in the air over a reclined seat and an investigation that keeps going. >> thank you very much. up next, behind the wall. new violence in jerusalem prompting israel to put up concrete barriers in east jerusalem. the great beauty of owning a property is that you can create wealth through capital appreciation, and this has been denied to many south africans for generations. this is an opportunity to right that wrong. the idea was to bring capital into the affordable housing space in south africa,
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the recent violence between israelis and palestinians has been escalating by the day. last night an armed arab assailant killed an israeli
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soldier at a bus station. adding to this tragedy, a migrant mistaken as an assailant was killed, shot by a security guard, then attacked by a mob of bystanders, joining me with the latest, msnbc's ayman mohyeldin. i don't know how this ends or what the circuit breaker is but tell me what they are trying to do on the ground. >> reporter: well, right now it is a situation that remains very fluid, remains very tense. the israeli police have announced an investigation. they are searching for those individuals, israeli individuals who were involved in that mob attack on that man following the security guard shooting. we understand from at least israeli local media that the security guard will not be investigated for mistaking the identity of that eritrean man as a possible second attacker but the individuals involved in the attack afterwards, the kicking, the spitting and throwing furniture at him, then ultimately possibly even
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blocking the ambulance from leaving, are being sought after by israeli police. it does cut to the core of just how tense the situation is here. and it also underscores just the growing problem. on one hand you have the palestinian authority saying that israel is taking these vigilante movements, if you will, of individuals to attack palestinians to a whole new level. the palestinian authority president used the word execution. today we heard, them saying there is no room for these type of acts. saying the law has to remain with the israeli police and authorities and they are launching that investigation. here in jerusalem, the situation in the arab neighborhoods remains volatile. israel today has put up a wall in one of those neighborhoods and set up barriers in others, adding to what palestinians say is daily oppression of what they have to endure here.
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>> ayman mohyeldin with all of your reporting, thank you. in response to this recent violence, secretary of state kerry will meet with benjamin netanyahu and mahmoud abbas separately in different countries, signifying how difficult it will be to bridge their differences. while kerry has pledged ongoing u.s. support for israel's security he is reminding israel of its pledge to maintain the status quo over contest the sites. >> israel has made it clear to me they do not intend to and have not changed the status quo. i think it's important for me to meet with the prime minister and talk about the road ahead. >> i'm joined by martin indigg, kerry's top negotiator for middle east peace and now executive vice president at the brookings institute. and james zogby, president of the arab american institute. welcome, both. can't think of two more experienced and frustrated gentlemen to have together at
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this table. jim, first to you. when we talk about putting up a wall in east jerusalem, a lot of us love those neighborhoods of east jerusalem shops, hotels, places we all frequent, and when you think of the residents who go to hebrew university, students or professors, these walls are significant. >> you know, i just went back and found an article i wrote back in 1995. the strangulation of the city of jerusalem has been going on for decades now. we have now a situation where one-third of the land's been confiscated. arab population can't build housing. there are over 200,000 jewish settlers and 119 compounds in the arab neighborhoods that house almost 2,000 really extremist jewish settlers with armed guards, which have choked off the city and because jerusalem and its population
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can't find jobs in the west bank or west bankers can't come in to shop, they have gone now to west jerusalem so that most of the manual laborers in west jerusalem, people cleaning houses or driving or working on construction sites are arabs and the poverty rate among arabs is three-quarters of the population are in the poverty level. this city has been enduring enormous pain for many decades and we are seeing this explosion which is condemnable in its own right but is the result of i think the depression and the despair of a whole lot of people. >> these are israeli citizens, israeli arabs. martin, john kerry had to backtrack after suggesting in a speech at harvard last week that it was the expansion of settlements and the ensuing frustration that in part leads to this violence. >> let me just correct one thing, if i could. just for the audience. they have been offered.
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most haven't taken them. they have israeli national identity cards and national insurance and are able to travel anywhere in jerusalem normally -- >> as distinguished from west bank residents. >> correct. so while not disputing what jim says, there is this kind of duality. on the one hand, these villages that have been incorporated into jerusalem, now in this kind of situation he describes. on the other hand, the same people will say they prefer to be israeli -- under israeli rule than under palestinian authority rule. while the circumstances are now growing worse, and deeply frustrating, i think they can't figure out exactly -- they're caught between the two sides of this conflict. it's very difficult and of course, on the israeli side, you've got people who can't walk their dogs without fearing they are going to be stabbed in jerusalem neighborhoods. >> is the appropriate response
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to the knife attacks, horrendous, murderous knife attacks, to shoot to kill, including teenagers? is there an excess of violence or is it an understandable response? >> it's so hard to tell individual circumstances. there is videos that suggest that man shot in cold blood, there are other videos that show they are being threatened. i think it's case-specific. the israeli government has made clear they haven't loosened the regulations for dealing with these situations. they can only opened fire when threatened. the question is what is threatening in the situation. people are very, very worked up. what's clear is the number of palestinians that are dying is going up dramatically and that's a problem that we saw. when you had this spontaneous violence that led to a large spike in palestinian deaths
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which then led to a kind of rage and response which fueled the whole thing. >> jim, what about the leadership, palestinian leadership? because the ambassador was here last week arguing that mahmoud abbas has not condemned the violence, that he has in fact encouraged it and glorified it. >> you know, look, number one, these attacks are largely taking police in areas under israeli control where the palestinian authority can't operate. they can't operate in jerusalem, et cetera. so number one, they don't have control there. number two -- >> they have control over their words. >> but israel has done everything it can to discredit mahmoud abbas. they gave a thousand prisoners in an exchange to hamas and they begrudged abu, ending the peace negotiations. they have done everything they can to weaken him.
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but then they want him to be their guy and say what he needs to say for them, whereas what -- as a politician, saying what he needs to say for himself. look, there's a bit of ferguson going on here. maybe a little bit more than a bit of ferguson. palestinian lives matter but they don't get paid attention to. when you get 13, 14, 15-year-old kids acting out the way they are, what they're saying is my life matters, but it doesn't have any hope in the future. so unless we find a way for those who control the occupation, it's not the palestinians, it's the israelis, to give these kids a ray of hope, to say there's a future for you that's different than what you're seeing right now, this isn't going to end. it may end for a week, it hwill come up next year in a different way. the violence is the result of a situation of despair eating away the lives and souls of both peoples, but palestinians are at the end of the day the ultimate
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victims. >> this is a debate this goes back more than a half century. is there an american role? you were the last to attempt with john kerry to mediate this dispute. >> well, first of all, as you mention, secretary of state is going out there. he will meet with prime minister netanyahu in berlin and i think he would have preferred to meet with them all but the jordanians are so upset, they're not prepared to host. so that's just one indicator of how difficult it is to move from this situation to any kind of political process. the most important thing he can do and we saw a clip of that, is to try to calm things down and try to make clear that the status quo will be preserved on the holy sites of jerusalem which is what sparked the
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original explosion. but that's not going to be enough. netanyahu will have to step up and exercise leadership here. the incitement has to stop. that's difficult to do in circumstances where the palestinians are furious, where contenders for the succession are outbidding him, where he is quietly but systematically working with the israeli security service to try to calm things down, but he doesn't have any space to do -- to do that if he doesn't go along. he's in a tough spot. he needs to stop the incitement. maybe kerry can help him do that. on the other hand, he's got to talk to netanyahu about making sure there's no problems up on the temple mount and that as much as possible, tamp down the israeli reaction to the violence so it doesn't stir up the rage.
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>> we are just about on it of time. >> what's happening in jerusalem is when they look back at the article 20 years ago, i was reading about hebron and jerusalem. palestinians in jerusalem are afraid the future of their city is like what happened in hebron where the israelis eat away slowly, slowly, slowly and ultimately transform a situation where just a handful of settlers and armed guards end up literally gutting the city's life out of the heart of it. that's what's happening in jerusalem right now. i think that it's hard for the palestinians to stomach it when they have seen it happen in hebron. they have seen the same thing unfolding in jerusalem. that's what's causing this reaction. it's despair, anger. it can be tamped down but in order for it to be tamped down there has to be hope. there is no hope right now. >> of course, exasperating all of this is social media which we didn't have decades ago. thank you both. the white house trying to
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freeze any talk of military cooperation with vladimir putin in syria. but jimmy carter marches to his own drummer. in georgia yesterday, the former president already under treatment for cancer said he has been in touch with vladimir putin to share carter center maps showing isis locations in syria to help russia's targeting of air attacks. >> i happen to know president putin fairly well because he and i have a common interest in fly fishing and so when i was with him in may, to discuss the syrian issue and other issues, he wanted to keep up with what my fly fishing experiences particularly in russia, so he gave me an e-mail number i could reach him. i sent him a message thursday and asked him if he wanted a copy of our map so he could bomb accurately in syria, and then on friday, the russian embassy in
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mounted after a recent wave of dangerous close calls with passenger planes flying in and out of some of the nation's biggest airports. lisa edelman helped shape the policy on drones and is now partner and co-chair of the firm's global unmanned aircraft systems group. thank you very much for being with us. you worked on this in the white house and this is -- i don't understand so help me help the viewers understand how is registration going to prevent close calls? >> well, i believe that the issue is that -- or the hope is that registration will help both educate, the faa educate folks that what they are buying is not just a toy, that we are expecting to see maybe a million more drones sold around the holidays and it's important that consumers recognize when they buy these drones, when they receive these drones as gifts that, they come with real responsibilities and they need to be flown in accordance with rules and regulations. i think that the faa would also hope that the registration will
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help them enforce the laws and rules that are on the books. right now, a lot of these flights that we have heard about over the last several months that have been flown, for example, near manned aircraft, it's impossible to tell who owns those drones so this is the federal government's attempt to put a name behind that device. >> so will they be licensed? will they be somehow bar coded that that when something happens, if something happens, they will be able to find the owner? >> yeah. that's the idea. all of the details as being announced in the press conference, a lot of details will be worked out over the next few months with a task force working both with private industry as well as the federal government to craft what this registration will actually look like, where the lines will be drawn, whether all toys, all devices will qualify for registration and what this will actually look like. >> as you say, 700,000 to a
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million drones are going to be sold over the holiday season which is an incredible number. is this going to be in place by then, by the holiday season? >> that appears to be the federal government's plan is to try to rush this through. it would be an amazing feat. i can say having worked in the federal government, that the bureaucracy generally works much slower than that, but there does seem to be a strong will to do so and the hope is that they will bring the right people to the table, the right folks, the experts from industry who have the technological capabilities to make this a seamless process for the consumer so that we see an end result that works both for the government and for the people. >> you worked closely with the president and the white house team on this. tell me, what was his level of concern? >> well, i know that for example, after the vehicle landed on the white house lawn, the president made a statement that he recognized the many benefits of drones but also recognized that we needed some rules in place sooner rather than later. the good news is that on the
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commercial front we have a proposed rule out there which will soon become final and now the federal government is acting with regard to recreational drones. the goal of course is that we are all able to be -- able to take advantage of the many benefits of drones. they are a lot of fun as well as useful for the american public but in a way that wins the public's trust and keeps all of us safe. >> thank you so much, lisa ellman from london today. coming up, what the next 24 hours may bring for paul ryan. some cash back cards love to overcomplicate things. like limiting where you earn bonus cash back. why put up with that? but the quicksilver card from capital one
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which political story will make headlines in the next 24 hours? nbc's luke russert joins me now from capitol hill. luke, the question is are we going to have a new speaker decision potentially with paul ryan before we have a new candidate decision from vice president biden? >> reporter: it's the decision,
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andrea. the decision. it should be hosted by andrea mitchell. you could have biden and ryan right there. you would be way better than jim gray with lebron. >> let's do it together. >> reporter: that would be fun. paul ryan. he has to make a decision this week, i'm told. it could come as early as today. he has a gop conference meeting, however, on wednesday at 9:00 a.m. that's really where to look, because at this meeting, paul ryan will have an opportunity to hear people coming out for him, he will also hear from his detractors. sources i have spoken to say they believe ryan will have privately made a decision by then as to whether or not it will come out at that meeting or perhaps sometime during the day, we'll see. thursday, hillary clinton comes here to testify about benghazi. you could conceivably have the ryan decision on the same day as hillary clinton talking about benghazi. that would be wild for us reporters. but it's going to happen by the end of the week. we just have to pin-point exactly when. unclear right now. >> benghazi, ryan, biden. what a week. >> reporter: indeed.
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