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marco doesn't show up to the united states senate. look at marco's stance on illegal immigration. it's really trouble for him. he is a disaster with his credit cards. he has a very bad record of finances if you look at what happened with his houses, with his, you know, he certainly lives above his means, there's no question about that. >> trump also took a few shots at the new front-runner in our poll, dr. ben carson, but not too many. donald trump comes in second to the doctor in this poll. this is the second major national poll in a week with this result. the first since the most recent debate and trump says what the polls indicate is that more candidates need to exit the race. >> do i think it's time to have some of the other republican candidates drop out? yes. there are too many people. well, i don't want to get personal but you can look at the poll numbers. >> trump also refocused his gaze on one of his favorite targets, jeb bush. here's what trump said when asked if maybe he will do a bush
impersonation when he hosts "saturday night live." >> this evening i'm meeting with lorne michaels and the staff and we will start the preparation. my jeb impression? i don't want to do that. i don't like showing a person sleeping at a podium. >> we have got the political field covered with our correspondents cross the campaign trail. katy tur, chris jansing with ben carson, msnbc's kasie hunt following the bush campaign and kristen welker covering the battle between hillary clinton and bernie sanders. katy, i know you were there in what was a blustery news conference for donald trump. but talk about a course correction for donald trump as he remains on the campaign but also now on a book tour. >> reporter: it was a blustery news conference but certainly not as blustery as donald trump normally is or had been at least in the past up until a few weeks ago. he was attacking his opponents. other than having that joke about jeb bush and falling asleep at the podium, most of the attacks were on substance
rather than being personal. he hit marco rubio as you just heard on not showing up for senate votes. he hit ben carson on wanting to cut medicare. this is donald trump trying to distinguish himself from the other opponents, not just by calling them not interesting or saying they have low energy, but really hitting them where it could possibly hurt down the line. this senate vote thing is something that could expose quite a big boon for marco rubio so trump will hit it as hard as he possibly can. as for ben carson, he can't really go after him personally because it has not worked in the past. he's called him low energy as he called jeb bush low energy, but ben carson's poll numbers have only gone up. so he's trying to show that ben carson's not going to be a strong leader in terms of negotiating trade deals. he's trying to differentiate himself from ben carson. i think that's what you saw in this news conference today. his book is full of policy ideas and policy plans. it's 169 pages. it talks about the economy, talks about foreign policy, talks about education, talks about energy, talks about guns.
this is donald trump getting substantive and it's donald trump trying to make an argument to the american people that he'll be best for the white house. >> katy tur in new york. we turn to chris jansing in tampa, florida. explain to us what you're hearing from the carson campaign and how they are nurturing this new lead in florida. >> reporter: well, it starts in places like this. this is a bookstore and you know he's on this book tour. it was with the folks who loved his books, who went to his speeches, that he first got convinced to become an improbable candidate, now the even more improbable front-runner. i talked to his senior strategist today. he said look, it's much easier to become number one than it is to continue so their challenge is how do you build on this momentum and they are doing that by having their super pac here, they are signing people up, getting e-mails, but remember, they are already not just first in the polls, they have the most fund-raising among the republicans, the most social media and the most number of individual donors. we talked to quite a few of them
already today. they use a lot of the same words about him, being trustworthy, being dependable, about doing what he says, the same kinds of things that we tracked in our polls. so what they are going to do is keep the focus now on the early states, that includes iowa, south carolina, nevada, they are going -- they have half a million dollar ad buy they are going to continue throughout until february when those folks actually go to the polls, but they believe that they can continue to raise huge amounts of money on social media, including facebook. half of their money comes from their social media fans. he interacts with facebook five nights a week. >> really amazing to think of social media and the sustainability that we are seeing carson gain off of that. we will turn to kasie, who joins us in rye, new hampshire. you are following the bush campaign. this is a day after jeb launched the fix it tour. talk about what you're seeing on
the campaign trail, how jeb bush and the team regaining some of its mojo. >> reporter: thomas, good afternoon. jeb bush starting his day in south carolina and he will finish it here in new hampshire. around 5:00 he will be here with former senator scott brown for his no b.s. bbq in the barn that's behind me. there is already bud light set up in there, what would a scott brown barbecue be without that. but for bush, this is all about resetting and refocusing his campaign, particularly on new hampshire. his team is making it very clear that this is the place where he's going to have to make a real difference. they of course are not going to be helped in the meantime by these national polls. we saw our nbc news/"wall street journal" poll out today with not great news for jeb bush reflecting his performance in the debate and his team trying to say this is going to be fine, this is going to take some time. jeb bush himself saying that getting into those kinds of process questions are kryptonite for him. meantime, he's continuing to hit
against marco rubio, taking on his record in the senate and saying that it isn't going to do any good to take somebody from one side of pennsylvania avenue to the other to try and solve problems. take a listen. >> i don't think we can take a chance on someone from one side of the capitol to the next that has no proven experience. i have experience. >> reporter: so jeb bush trying to get back to just being himself, saying that if abraham lincoln were running today, he wouldn't be able to deal with all of the cable news punditry and issues that are affecting his campaign. >> it adds a different layer, for sure. kristen welker joins us from coralville, iowa, where the clinton campaign is enjoying new positive polling. i want to play something for everybody. bernie sanders telling our colleague andrea mitchell moments ago about whether or not he regrets that damn e-mails remark from the debate. >> no. i am not sorry at all.
as you have heard me say many times, andrea, i think that what campaigns are about and very often don't happen is to discuss the major issues facing our country. you know, the e-mail situation with secretary clinton, that is under investigation. there's a process going on. let it go on. i want to discuss why the middle class of this country is disappearing. >> so break it down in this 2-1 advantage that clinton has. >> reporter: well, first of all, it looks like secretary clinton has to some extent turned the page on that e-mail issue. bernie sanders may have helped her do that but if you look at the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, she's increased her lead over vermont senator bernie sanders. take a look at the numbers. according to the poll, clinton now leads him by 31 points. that's up from her 25-point lead in october. it's not all good news, though. she still struggles with the general electorate. 53% of registered voters gi her poor marks for being honest and
straightforward with only 27% giving her high marks. significant, of course, because it comes after that strong first debate, after she testified before the benghazi committee and also after vice president biden's decision not to get in this race. as for today, secretary clinton will hold two town halls in iowa and her campaign aides tell me one of the things she is going to focus on is the issue of gun violence. last night she met with mothers and family members of african-american men who lost their lives, many of them during interactions with law enforcement. this is of course an increasingly pressing issue in this democratic primary. as you know, the black lives matter movement has been protesting some of secretary clinton's events as well as bernie sanders' events. she is trying to talk about that to gain traction here today. >> reporters on the trail. kristen, chris, katy, thank you very much. joining me, howard fineman, editorial director for the huffington post. let's get right into the numbers on the right.
should the republican establishment get used the idea that either carson or trump is going to be the nominee? >> well, i don't know about being the nominee but certainly being a factor and a big one. the fact is as the nbc poll shows, dr. ben carson is effectively the front-runner at this point. i don't know why that isn't sort of more widely acknowledged, as the reporting shows in terms of social media, fund-raising, polling support, momentum. he's got it all. he's kind of snuck up on everybody. it's really remarkable. i think he's got a lot of staying power. donald trump, i think, does too if for no other reason than his skill at drawing free media. noes how to do it. he does it every minute of the day. he spent no money on his campaign because he gets covered by everybody all the time. he will be on "saturday night live." what more do you need? >> absolutely. as we look at things on the left we have president obama taking
shots at the gop and their complaints about the debates. take a look. >> every one of these candidates say obama's weak, you know, people -- putin's kicking sand in his face. when i talk to putin, he's going to straighten out. just looking at him, he's going to be -- and then it turns out they can't handle a bunch of cnbc moderators. >> so howard, how elated are democrats over what appears to be this chaotic perception of what's happening on the right? >> well, first, i would like to defend the macho status of cnbc moderators. come on, mr. president. let's be serious there. i think that the democrats have to feel pretty good about the situation that they've got here,
because hillary clinton, while potentially a flawed general election candidate in certain respects, and bernie sanders, who is a very effective outsider insurgent candidate, have sort of framed what i think is and will be a real discussion in the democratic party about where they go on policy and i think it comes across as more substantive and dare i say adult than what's going on on the republican side right now. i don't see any signs of that sort of basic dynamic changing any time soon. i think that's to the benefit of the democrats. it's a little less exciting, but maybe a little bit more appealing to voters who are actually going to turn out. >> we are still in the marathon. howard fineman, great to see you. thank you. so we are asking what you think about the presidential race as we are now a year out from electing the next commander in chief. my colleague here with the bing pulse question of the day. >> we are still in the marathon but we are at that milestone a year away and with the new poll showing ben carson topping the
gop race, we are asking you should the political outsider win the white house? as we launch this at the top of the hour, look at the voting so far, 67% of our viewers now growing to 68% saying yes. 32% of our viewers say no. a political outsider should not win the white house. interesting when we have donald trump leading the polls up until this last polling we are seeing showing ben carson in the lead. the differences they have, similarities, but at this point, 72% as you are seeing that jump. keep the debate going. pulse.msnbc.com is where you go to cast your vote. we will bring you the results throughout the show. >> thanks so much. we will talk again soon. we want to go to breaking news. we are getting this out of miami-dade. this is a live police chase we are watching from the aerials right now as this is something that's happening in florida city there, after the police confirm a stolen vehicle with a black male suspect behind the wheel. he apparently hit a florida city
marked unit and then an unmarked homestead police vehicle, hit by this suspect. again, this is an active police chase that's happening. as you can see, the driver is going around cars that are waiting at a stop light to get off. he's trying to get off the highway. he was going up, apparently he crossed over. as you can see, one of the cruisers behind him right now making their way directly on his tail as he's flying into oncoming traffic and going up the shoulder of the road, now trying to loop back around. still going into oncoming traffic. as you can see, he's making his way further up and we have technical difficulties from our aerial shot there. we are getting a closer look now. again, back on the right-hand side of the road as he has gotten off the highway. if you are just joining us, this is a police chase that's taking place in florida city, florida. miami-dade continue to tell us about this being a case where someone stole a vehicle, hit a police car, one that was marked, one that was unmarked, and
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so one year until election day tuesday and the national democratic debate is focusing on gun control. take a listen. >> this epidemic of gun violence knows no boundaries. between 88 and 92 people a day are killed by guns. we're better than this. we need to close the loopholes and support universal background checks. how many people have to die before we actually act? >> it was just in the last hour on "andrea mitchell reports" that presidential candidate bernie sanders offered his first response to that new ad. >> what secretary clinton has
just said is absolutely right. that's my views. that's how i voted. the difference perhaps that i have with the secretary on that is that i believe we need a consensus. there is a consensus in this country which does a number of things. it just does that. it says that we have got to strengthen the instant background check. i think most americans believe that criminals or people who have mental issues should not be owning guns. >> msnbc's steve kornacki joins me to explain why this issue continues to be a liability for the senator. steve? >> it's really interesting. it's not as if bernie sanders is against all gun control. you wouldn't say he has a position like a lot of the republican candidates have. but he is not in favor of every gun control measure that's been offered and as a result, this offers hillary clinton what may be her only chance in this race against bernie sanders to get to his left on something, so no surprise she is taking that chance and she is taking that chance now with this new ad, with this new emphasis as the polling news has been getting very good for her on the
democratic side. let's take a look. this is out just this afternoon. new hampshire first in the nation primary state, next door neighbor state for bernie sander. he had been leading in new hampshire. look at this. new poll out now, she debated bernie sanders, had her benghazi hearing, hillary clinton now in the lead in new hampshire over bernie sanders, only three points but that is significant. even more significant, we have seen a lot of polls, three different polls now in the last week that look like this. in iowa, hillary clinton, this race had been close competitive all summer, in iowa, hillary clinton opening up massive leads over bernie sanders all of a sudden. you look at this new ad, you look at hillary clinton in iowa, emphasizing gun control, why? we have polling numbers we can show ou that, too. this was a des moines register poll. it asked democrats in iowa, people who will be going to these caucuses next year, sanders, the fact that he voted against a waiting period, against a five-day waiting period once for gun purchases. knowing that, does it make you more or less supportive of him. 60% of democrats in iowa said
less supportive. so no mystery here. that's why hillary clinton's going down this road. >> msnbc's steve kornacki, thanks so much. see you a little later on. i want to bring into the conversation congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, chairwoman of the dnc. nice to see you. >> you too, thomas. >> i want to get your response to something donald trump had to say on sirius radio on monday. these are his words, quote, you have this crazy wasserman schultz, deborah wasserman schultz who is a highly new rurc woman. this is a woman who's a terrible person. how do you respond to that? >> you know, thomas, i'm a firm believer in what a very wise person told me years ago and that's if people show you who they are, you should believe them. donald trump has repootedly shown americans throughout his campaign exactly who he is, what he stands for and quite frankly, really is reflective of what the
entire republican party stands for. his mysogenistic comments are obviously offensive but it's really if you look down deep, the underbelly of the republican party positions on issues that are important to women, their opposition to comprehensive immigration reform where now every single candidate running for president opposes comprehensive immigration reform. it's, you know, when comments like that are made, it really doesn't need much more comment. they speak for themselves. >> do you think you are painting with a broad brush to characterize the entire gop with a donald trump in those statements? >> i do. i mean, very clearly, the sentiments of donald trump, whether it's that we should kick all the undocumented immigrants in this country out of the united states and send them back where they came from to insulting mexicans at the outset of his campaign by calling them all rapists or suggesting, all
the different times that donald trump has made insulting comments about individual women specifically, but the offensive way that he refers to women, really, it's just -- i will tell you, i'm happy to just have donald trump just keep talking and then demonstrate that because he's at the top or right at number two, of their republican field, it shows you where the republican party is today. so he should just keep talking. it just helps us eventually elect a democratic nominee as the 45th president. >> let's lo ok at that side of the race. hillary clinton way ahead on this. when we look and compare and contrast the numbers here, the favorable numbers of the democrat and republican candidates, clinton's numbers are near the bottom but we have senator sanders near the top but ben carson also has very high favorability numbers. does that worry you about what you are up against on the right with someone like marco rubio or ben carson as the eventual gop
nominee? >> you know, thomas, there's a reason the democratic nominee for president has won five out of the last six presidential elections and that's because when american voters are presented with the contrast and the two choices that they'll have, that they have clearly chosen democratic priorities and with good reason. we have just come through the worst economic crisis since the great depression and had 67 straight months of job growth in the private sector, 13 million new jobs, and what are the republicans talking about doing? the whole republican field wants to take us back to policies that have failed economically, they want to increase taxes on the middle class to pay for more tax cuts for the wealthy, many of them want to, like paul ryan, who is now their speaker, end medicare as we know it and turn it into a voucher system. that's marco rubio's plan. just a retread. jeb bush continues to embrace policies that have been repeatedly rejected that were put forward by his brother's administration. so i think the contrast when we
have a democratic nominee and a republican nominee will be very clear and our nominee will be elected president as a result. >> debbie wasserman schultz, nice to see you. thank you. don't miss the democratic candidates forum coming up live from south carolina. moderated by rachel maddow. that's live right here on msnbc friday, 8:00 p.m. eastern. coming up next, investigators are combing through the black box data from the crashed russian airliner as new theories emerge about what led to the deadly midair disaster. plus, 43 chipotle stores remain closed as health officials scramble to find the source of nearly two dozen cases of e. coli and how one customer is taking things into her own hands. first, give you an update on the car chase that's happening in south florida. miami-dade police confirm it is a stolen vehicle, that white chevy tahoe. police say an unmarked homestead police vehicle was hit by the suspect, then the suspect fled. details coming up after this break. this is brad.
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more now from south florida as police continue to follow that chevy tahoe, a stolen vehicle, they confirm a black male suspect behind the wheel, hit two police cars in miami-dade county. now this vehicle has traveled to broward county. for perspective, the driver traveling about 60 miles through packed traffic in miami-dade county, taking roads that are generally very heavy at this time of day with drivers, we saw him earlier going up opposite lanes of traffic to evade the police. we will keep you posted and bring you back to florida as we get an update. now to frances rivera. >> we are following new developments just adding to the mystery surrounding the crash of that russian passenger plane. infrared satellite detected a heat flash at the same time the airbus a-321 went down. officials have ruled out a missile strike and are now focusing on whether there was a bomb on board.
nbc chief global correspondent bill neely has the latest from cairo. if that was a missile, that infrared satellite would have been able to track it going from the surface of the ground to the air but that wasn't the case. so what else could have caused that heat flash? >> reporter: yeah, this is potentially really significant. so here you have the plane flying at 31,000 feet packed with people. above it is a u.s. satellite which at exactly the time of the disaster detects a heat flash, a brief intense explosion. now, that does narrow the range of possible causes of the crash. here they are. what it could be is an engine fire or a fuel tank explosion. that could possibly have caused this intense heat flash. it could be a bomb on the plane. here's what it's not. it's not the plane hitting the ground because it was detected at altitude, at 31,000 feet.
and it's not a missile strike, because what the satellite detected was not a heat trail, simply a flash. so it does narrow the range of possibilities and quite frankly, it probably does increase the possibility that this could have been a bomb that was smuggled on board rather like december 1988, pan am 103 that exploded over lockerbie, scotland. the black boxes are being analyzed in cairo. they will tell us the real truth of what happened on board that plane. >> bill neely, thank you very much. tough time for the families as the final remains on now headed back to russia. also developing right now, health officials still working to track down a source of the chipotle e. coli outbreak that has sickened at least 22 in washington state and oregon. so far, eight people have been hospitalized but no deaths have been reported. officials expect the number of cases linked to the restaurant chain to grow.
one person who was sickened has already filed a lawsuit. 43 chipotle stores in both states remain closed and the chain says that is out of an abundance of caution. live look now at a lot of celebrating going on in kansas city for fans of the world series champion royals. they are painting the town blue. lot of celebrating there. cannons are shooting confetti through the route through downtown. the celebration is 30 years in the making. the royals last won the fall classic back in 1985. here in new york city where the mets were defeated, business as usual. still to come, up next, sales pitch or serious campaign push? after weeks of playing it cool, donald trump brings back his signature bombastic style. >> do i think it's time to have some of the other republican candidates drop out? yes. and is ohio about to become the fifth state to legalize recreational marijuana?
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♪ you didn't expect this did you? no i didn't. the nissan altima. there's a fun side to every drive. nissan. innovation that excites. our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows voters are trading hope for fear. president obama has an uphill climb but the mountain is even steeper for republicans. >> the nbc poll shows romney and herman cain are virtually tied as the front-runners. >> romney leads the overall republican field for the first time in four months. >> the american people aren't happy with the direction of this country so they will fire barack obama and put a republican in the white house. >> what a difference a year can make. that was just a snapshot of what coverage was like in november of 2011, one year before president obama ultimately won re-election. now a little more than a year out from election day, history could once again be made again. democrats are poised to nominate
either the first woman or self-described socialist on the left while republicans could nominate the party's first hispanic, first african-american, first woman, first reality tv star billionaire businessman or the third person from a political family dynasty. so could what happens now offer any clues into 2016? joining me is mark halperin, bloomberg politics managing editor. good to have you with me. i understand you were there for the event today with donald trump and the promotion of his book and questions about his campaign. what did he tell you? >> well, waiit was not a normal book signing. most of them go to barnes & noble. went after marco rubio for the second straight day yesterday. when john heilemann and i talked to him he went after him on his attendance at the senate and immigration. today, he raised questions when i asked him about his record on personal finances, when he was in florida as speaker of the house, trump suggested he had heard stories for years about that. so that's an interesting topic for trump to go after, because
it is what a lot of people in the bush campaign and elsewhere think might be a vulnerability for rubio. he also signed a lot of books for a lot of fans who got up really early to meet donald trump. >> so you and your colleague john heilemann, you sat down with donald trump yesterday. in that interview, he continued to take aim at senator marco rubio. i want to play a brief version. take a look. >> he was in the senate, and he tried to get the top position or whatever, tried to get the top -- a friend of mine told me who was there with him. they fought, they fought, they got the top position. two minutes after he had the top position he was looking to run for senate. then he runs for senate. now he wants to be president. i would say maybe i'm the last person to say this, relax. take it easy. take it easy. >> so rubio has faced a similar criticism from people like jeb bush. why do you think that trump finds this politically expedient to pile on? >> he said it again today. look, trump has shown the tendency, the instinct throughout this race, anyone who looks like he might be a threat,
even ben carson, who trump claims long-term doesn't see as a threat, trump goes after. right now, rubio is the rising candidate in this race. so like i say, he was critical today. he even criticized him for his association with paul singer, the new york billionaire who endorsed rubio last friday and is going to raise money for rubio. he said there were things about sing thaer that would come out be a problem for rubio. right now, both yesterday and today, it doesn't take much to get donald trump to start talking down marco rubio. >> so you also talked about the debates, what he would like to see. this is all coming after representatives from the campaigns met to hash out their demands over the weekend. we will play a portion of that. >> look, i had a representative there, i don't care that much. i think frankly, i would go a step further. i'm more of an economic person. the networks are making a fortune with the debates. the truth is, we should say, we should be like a basketball player. we should go on strike and say
we want money for wounded warriors, or we want money for a great charity, the veterans, i would love to give -- >> all right. his campaign says he will negotiate with the networks independently so collective bargaining for all the campaigns, not going to work out. trump is one of a handful of republicans not signing on to a letter outlining demands for networks and future debates. but trump obviously is a disrupter. what does it mean for him to break from the other candidates for the process moving forward? >> well, thomas, i think the list you are showing there for, i think i'm told privately that the list of people who don't want to be part of the letter has grown. i think we are close to or over a majority of the major candidates who don't want to be part of any deal. so trump plans to do what trump always does which is to use his bargaining power to leverage the way he wants. he's not being very specific about the changes he wants to see. we already know he doesn't want debates longer than two hours. we already know that he would like to have a kind of format that allows opening and closing statements. one of the things he called for
today at the press conference when asked was for candidates to get out of the race. he would like fewer candidates in the race. there are indications that in some upcoming debates there may be standards of entry that would lower the number of people on the stage below ten which trump says would be to his liking. he will negotiate, he will get what he wants because you know, a lot of times in trump world, they exaggerate, they puff up their chests. in this case, they have the influence. there's no debate without trump. he will get what he wants in almost every case regarding how the debates go. >> mark halperihalperin, thank buddy. today is a big day. it's not the only one we have on our radar for this election cycle. frances back with other save the dateser to us. >> it will be a big year. we are just getting started. the year ahead has caucuses, primaries, conventions. here's what you need to know about the key days. get out the calendars. here's a reminder. let's begin with the first in the south democrat candidates
forum. that features hillary clinton, bernie sanders and martin o'malley. that airs this friday at 8:00 p.m., november 6th, eastern time 8:00 p.m. here on msnbc. that's a reminder for that event. the next major date, january 31st, 2016, big day for money in politics, because super pacs will report the cash they have raised and their donors for the first time since july. the campaigns will also report their fourth quarter fund-raising. the following month, february, another big one here. actual voting begins. the first iowa caucuses here. that is again, february 1st. then on the 9th, the new hampshire primary. then you have the republican south carolina primary later in the month on the 20th. then 23rd is a big one, three days later the nevada republican caucuses and to end the month, the 27th, the south carolina democratic primary. then we know march, big day here, especially when you are talking about march 1st, super tuesday. 13 primaries across 13 states. key ones like colorado, texas
and virginia all gathering there on that date, the 1st. a whole lot of delegates up for grabs. then on the 15th, more battleground states like ohio and florida. got a lot going on already as we are marking our calendars. july, huge there. we know each party crowns its winner at their respective conventions, in cleveland and philly for the democrats. all gearing up to election day, november 8th, 2016. so seems like a long day away but when you're talking about political time, it's not a whole lot of time. everybody is getting cracking. it will be a busy year. >> frances, thanks so much. we look to ohio voters now as they head to the polls today to decide whether to legalize marijuana in their state. voters are considering this ballot measure that would permit pot for both medical and personal use. the initiative is getting national attention because of the high profile names backing and bankrolling the legislation including former 98 degrees band member nick lachey and nba hall of famer oscar robinson. if the measure passes, ohio will
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so a lot going on this super tuesday. from voting to a countdown to the next presidential election. roughly a little over a year away. >> we'll show you highlights and low lights of the campaign season so far. take a look. >> knowing what we know now, would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have. knowing what we know now what would you have done? i would have not engaged, i would not have gone into iraq. >> some of them i think secretly want there to be an attack on the united states to blame it on me. >> i should have used two accounts, one for personal, one for work related e-mails. that was a mistake. i i'm sorry about that. i take responsibility. >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing about your damn e-mails. >> the questions about your staff and about fund-raising and polls, where's that on your priority list right now? >> it is not on it. >> when mexico sends its people, they're not sending their best. they're bringing crime. they're rapists and some i
assume are good people. >> the supreme court rewrote the constitution and threw out the marriage laws of 50 states. >> not a war he are. >> he is. >> he is a war hero because he was captured. i like people that weren't captured. >> what he said about john i think was offensive. he's becoming a jackass. >> he gave his number. i found the card. i wrote the number down. i don't know if it's right number. let's try it. 202-[ bleep ]. >> let no one be mistaken. donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism. >> you can take dollar for dollar -- not sure we need half a billion dollars for women health issues. >> who else was at your home? were you alone? >> i was alone, yes. >> the whole night? >> yes. the whole night. >> honestly, megan, if you don't like it, i'm sorry. i've been very nice to you although i could probably maybe not be based on the way you have
treated me but i would don't this. >> it is outrageous to attack anybody's appearance when it looked like he has a squirrel on his head. >> i smoked marijuana. >> the marijuana today is not the same as the marijuana that jeb bush smoked 40 years ago. >> if i were sitting at home and watching this back and forth, i would be inclined to turn it off. >> i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. i absolutely would not agree with this. >> you find a democrat that's for cutting taxes, cutting spending $10, i'll give him a warm kiss. >> hi. i'm hillary rodham clinton. >> great name. i'm val. >> senator sanders, how are you? >> i'm good. i'm hungry but i'm good. >> and to be continued, right? think of the sound bites and snippets to come. >> our team put that together. congrats to them. one of the interesting things to come out of that.
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have that energy. i think beating hillary clinton is going to be easy because her record is so bad. when the e-mail problem came up, bernie sanders lost his whole campaign. people aren't going to the rallies anymore. he is finished. >> so that was donald trump at his trump tower today in a news conference. also plugging his new book out today and while he had the camera he took on nearly every single one of the rivals after a new poll put him in second place in the gop field. trumped by the doctor. >> we just had polls come out today from iowa where i'm leading. you saw the new poll from iowa. you saw the new poll in new hampshire. where i'm leading big. a poll just came out in florida where i'm leading big. georgia, texas. i mean, all over the place. and i think, you know, look. it's -- we're going well and if you add ben and myself, we're
beating everybody by a lot. that seems to be the big story. >> but the quietest candidate in the republican field is the man to beat and here's what ben carson said when asked about leading in the polls just yesterday. >> polls go up and down. they will continue to go up and down and only one that really matters is next november. >> so there we have dr. ben carson responding to that and we have team coverage of what's taking place today for the super tuesday. katy tur joins me with more and an insight into how the political campaign is now turning into a book tour and this is something we see from a lot of people, katy. the success of running the two tracks at the same time. >> reporter: -- lay out policy positions and the platform and an outlook for the country. it is 169 pages of gun control policy issues or lack of gun control, rather. stuff on the economy. stuff on energy. on foreign policy. in fact,longest
chapter in the book and donald trump running a more substantial campaign, a campaign focused more on the issues rather than the personal attacks. as you just showed a minute ago, he is still attacking the opponents and more on substance now. he had attacking marco rubio for the past few months, now he's ataking him on the senate voting record and the financials instead of sweaty and calling him a kid instead of calling him a baby you can see that donald trump really has started to mature as a candidate. >> so, katy, as we look at the maturity of the campaign, also the zingers. might have lost the lead but didn't lose the sharp tongue. marco rubio a favorite shot and jeb bush was still in his sight lines but talk about the strategy of the campaign as it moves forward. donald trump just four days away from hosting "snl." >> talking to people on the road
and the campaign trail, they like his bombast. they don't necessarily like all the personal attacks. i think donald trump and his campaign started to hear that loud and clear and that's why i think you are hearing him talk about marco rubio's senate record and ben carson not supporting medicare. more than you hear him talk about the energy levels. he is still attacking jeb bush on the energy level because i think he enjoys getting under jeb bush's stin and donald trump trying to present a more policy surrounded campaign. a more policy centric, excuse me, campaign. he outlined his plan for veterans and fire va execs and introduced ob/gyn to the va hospitals that haven't been there before. he's trying to be a candidate not associated with the personal attacks and one that has the bombastic nature. that's got him to the point to
begin with and gotten him all the attention, thomas. >> the firebrand that is donald trump, katy tur, thank you very much. now chuck todd host of "mtp" daily and med ray or the of "meet the press" and looking at the sustainability of the dr. ben carson in the race, what does history tell us at this time in the election psych snl. >> looking at the polls, you would say, oh boy, this is precarious. look at the same poll we had herrmann cain ahead. this same poll in the republican side, rudy giuliani. flash in the pan. that sort of thing. here's the difference between dr. carson and giuliani and cain. dr. carson leads the field in money, leads the field in small donors, leads the field in social advancement. not only up in the polls there is evidence of depth to his support. all of those other things were totally sort of flash in the pan
moments. carson feels as if that, yes, while he is getting a bump right now, there's more depth to it. i think that's something why i know people want to dismiss it and use the old polls to dismiss the carson moment. i wouldn't -- i would be a little bit careful to be dismissing it so easy. >> while that has traction, what about jeb bush and the launch of jeb can fix it and where he goes as he said, this is just the early start of all of this. the grinder. >> the communications director put that tweet out which was absolutely true. with the tweet said i think, tim miller said the polls will stink the next couple of months and comebacks take time and jeb didn't like it and uncomfortable but it was right. i mean, whether jeb comes back or not, we won't know for a couple of months or not if it lo looks. so far, this cycle, it's been hard, candidates going down haven't really been able to get
back up. now that scott walker, rick perry things like that. i guess the question is do we believe it's more like '08 and people continue to date candidates, date candidates, even ones they didn't like before and try them again or is the field big enough once they reject somebody they're not going back and that's the danger for jeb. >> happening on the left, because you wrote about on nbc.com today the country is looking for a political reset for 2016. we have had president obama and the left and reset and rejection of the democrats? >> this is not about "d" versus "r" right now but establishment versus outsider. there's all of this tumult out there that you have a socialist gain, having some traction. okay? receded a little bit with sanders. conservative outsiders like trump and carson. this is not happening in a vacuum. there's a larger issue going on here. there's frustration with the political system, the economic
system, with the international order. this is an america that feels untrust -- they don't trust either political party very well, more to the republicans and republicans more angry at their party than democrats are at theirs. i think you put it together. the country is shopping, looking for some stability somewhere. but they want change that comes with that stability. and i think that that's why it feels so uncertain and when you look back on this, the closest comparison, historical comparison, is sort of 6'64 to '80. a george mcgovern and the democrats and barry goldwater. you had a shocking result of a presidency in jimmy carter. maybe ben carson's our jimmy carter of this generation. the -- where jimmy carter rose up as the most honest guy out there or perceived to be.
that's ben carson's strong -- so it was an unpredicted time and we near a similar period. >> it's really fascinated as we watch together. thank you. watch chuck's show here 5:00 p.m. eastern and sundays. now to frances rivera checking the traffic on our bing pulse question of the day. and this goes to what chuck was talking about. the outsider issue for d.c. frances? >> that's right. asking you should a political outsider win the white house? 70% from the noes. that's dropping or growing. now 30%. interesting, though, even though this is lopsided, majority of the viewers think that's no, look at how we're graphing in realtime and while chuck was talking about it and ben carson having the depth and the dimension, you know, with the small donors, the money, the social engagement, as well. not too many people are saying no coming to this realtime
graph. more of our voters are going towards neutral so maybe they were listening to more of what chuck had to say and factoring that in. and interesting to see how that conversation plays out in realtime and how it impacts our voters casting this vote. currently 30% saying yes. 70% saying no. you can continue to vote. thomas? >> okay. we'll check in. thank you. right now out to iowa. kristen welker is following the hillary clinton campaign today. we have a new poll confirming life in the campaign. talk about how clinton is taking advantage. >> reporter: she is trying to build on the momentum, thomas. holding two town halls later in iowa today. the first here. i'll step out of the way to take a look at the crowd that is gathering here. look. the reality is this is an area that heavily favors bernie sanders so she's trying to tap into some of that support. and it all comes as latest nbc
news/"wall street journal" poll shows she increased the lead over sanders. take a look at the numbers. clinton now leads sanders by 31 points. that's up from her 25-point lead in october. not all good news, though, thomas. struggles with the general electorate. 53% of general voters give her good marks with 27% giving her high marks. of course, that's significant coming after the first debate. now, this morning, secretary clinton released a new ad and the focus of that ad is on gun safety and it comes after last night secretary clinton met with the mothers and family members of boys killed in interactions with law enforcement. and of course, this is becoming an increasingly pressing issue. during this democratic primary, not only because you have the broader electorate talking about it but because of the black lives matter movement. they protested some of the
clinton events and sanders events and i'm told she is talking about that a little bit later on today. so again, thomas, trying to build on that momentum we are seeing in our latest poll. thomas? >> kristen, reporting for us in iowa, thank you. a programming note for everybody, rachel maddow will moderate this friday. still ahead on today's show -- >> you have to be able to field difficult questions and that's what citizens should expect and if people are paying attention and involved, i think they make good decision. >> the president weighing in on the 2016 race and the debate over debates. "nbc nightly news" anchor lester holt joins me next. the koch brothers sit down for a first joint interview with "morning joe." >> do you see a candidate out there? that's not --
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so we have new reaction from president obama on the republican candidates vying to replace him. this is part of a wide ranging and exclusive interview with anchor lester holt. lester sat down with the president after his trip to newark, new jersey, focusing on criminal justice reform. lester holt anchor of "nbc nightly news" joins me now. great to see you. >> thank you. nice to be here. >> let's see what he's talking about the republican debates. what is the reaction? >> paying very close attention.
we were talking in general one year out from the election and what should voters know and the potential successors know? he pointed out that we should demand specifics of them and that led him into this and the republicans and the debate. >> i've been interested in seeing some of the republican candidates who say they're so tough they're going to stare down, you know, the chinese and the russians and somehow cnbc scares them. you got to be able to field difficult questions and that's what citizens should expect and if people are paying attention and involved i this they're going to make a good decision. >> a couple of hours later he repeated that riff at a fund-raiser here in new york city. >> he tested out that line on you first. >> i think so. >> to warm up the audience at hamilton. you spoke to the president obama of policining of america and i
want to play a part of that exchange. >> sure. >> you know, we have not seen any evidence of that. and i think the fbi director would be the first to say that he's heard anecdotal suggestions that that may be happening in selective sites but we don't know. and, you know, as i said in the speech in chicago last week, we're not as a society that has to choose between either discriminatory policing or excusing the handful of bad apples to engage in that or we have sky high crime rates. that's not the choice we have to make. >> does the president appear to be at odds with the fbi director? >> yeah. let's explain the ferguson effect is. it's a notion that we have definitely seen an uptick in homicides in a number of major cities recently even the backdrop of lower homicide rates overall. there are some including the fbi
director comey suggesting it's a result of ferguson, police officers are afraid of being photographed so that maybe this is chilling wind is affecting how they do police work but the president there notes again that it's anecdotal and there's a conversation out there about the possible effect. >> one of the largest struggles for the president, the decision to put boots on the ground in syria. how does he justify that as americans elected him to draw down. >> he was saying no boots on the ground in syria. last friday, the white house introduced the introduction of 50 special operations troops in northern syria to work there. i asked the president point-blank, did you go back on the promise. he thinks not. here's what he had to say. >> really, this is just an extension of what we were continuing to do. we are not putting u.s. troops on the front lines fighting fire fights with isil.
what we can do is in addition to the training and advising we do, they're select situations in which there is an isil leadership camp or there is a particular isil leader that we can capture quickly. >> so boots on the ground, if you're talking literal, yes, there are american boots on the ground. he said there wouldn't be in the broader sense and this is not going to be an invasion that we saw in the last war in iraq. nothing on that -- >> seems like semantics in the military policy and what it means for the 50 men and women returning potentially to harm's way and what that means for not active combat or put in situations to back up kurdish forces. >> we saw that rescue raid a week ago. i think anyone who's studied this and understands military operations, especially a special operation troops, there's a long likelihood they're engaged in shootouts, that combat? you know?
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welcome back, everybody. with more on the super tuesday, we are just a little more than a year from the presidential election and the growing rivalry between two floridians continuing today at an event in south carolina. bush took perhaps another veiled swipe at the florida senator and making the argument that he has the experience necessary to be the next president. >> but i don't think we can take a chance on someone from one side of the capital to the next that has no proven experience.
i have experience. >> but it appears rubio is getting the best of bush. at least in the polls with rubio polling 3% better than the former governor nationally. we're covering both camps this hour. kasie hunt is following the bush campaign in new hampshire. nbc's hallie jackson here at 30 rock. he will be in new hampshire later today. how's that received by voters and talk about the reaction to people having the strong language that bush is using toward his -- someone who considers him a mentor, marco rubio. >> reporter: sure, thomas. afternoon from beautiful new hampshire. this one year out from election day, we hope it's this nice back here next year this time in 2016 when voters are making the decisions. bush was received warmly kicking off the tour in florida but the reality is it's the reception he
has here to matter most for his presidential hopes and they know that and they're already seeing polling that monmouth university poll out yesterday showing rubio polling into third place in the state and this is a beginning of a three-day swing and i think getting the first chance the see how new hampshire voters reacting to him going aggressively after marco rubio. we are graciously hosted by dr. and mrs. james betty and hosted a number of other candidates. this barbecue sponsored by scott brown. the bud lite is set up in the barn here behind me. you know, the overarching thing here, thomas, bush is betting on a reboot here in new hampshire but you can't -- even though we're focusing on rubio versus bush, we can't discount trump and carson. they're trying to get trump here at the barn but if the weather was bad, so many people would be here and would have to have it in the field behind me.
so if bush can't break through or rubio or any one of the establishment candidates it is going to be potentially good place here for trump and carson, as well, thomas. >> thank you so much. let's talk about establishment and marco rubio and shifting the focus from fund-raising to more campaigning. when's behind the shift? >> a couple of points. marco rubio needs a good fourth quarter with fund-raising. look at the three months between july, august, september, not great. $6 million pulled in. the cash on hand was okay and needs a strong end of the year essentially. by all accounts, looks like he's on track to do so. a campaign source says that october was the best fund-raising month yet. you have thanksgiving, christmas, people sort of not thinking about -- >> seen the commercials. >> already, right? christmas creep. people aren't necessarily thinking of donating money in the holiday periods. what rubio and others need and particularly for rubio for the
network to come into play here. we're seeing this last year. singer behind rubio and more importantly, thomas, getting his network behind marco rub yeah, as well. talking about the bundlers behind him. >> that's a big fish catch. ted cruz, the superpac is out with an ad buy. take a look. >> the media and even some of his own party, like speaker john boehner, attacked ted cruz referring to him as a pain in the you know what because of his bold actions fighting to keep the promises he made to me. that was the ted cruz i trust. >> all right. so it looks like we can figure out who they're targeting in this, specifically starting with the media. is this a smart strategy? politically smart for ted cruz moving forward. >> sure. putting aside whether it's smart it is on message. right? this is the message that ted cruz is building his platform on, the campaign on.
which is he's the guy to fight against the establishment for everybody out there that feels disenfranchised by the establishment and the media, also. this radio ad buy is part of the million-dollar buy from the superpac and he hits on the themes of religious liberties, huge for ted cruz with a big rally in a couple of weeks about that in south carolina and talks about the 2nd amendment, gun rights for him, too. >> great to see you here in person. kasie hunt, as well, in new hampshire. we move on to the koch brothers. a name you're familiar with. known for their influence in conservative circles because of their donations and this morning in a rare and exclusive interview with my colleagues, charles koch declined to say who if anyone they're supporting in the race for president. >> do you see a candidate out there that's not -- >> not in great measure. >> not in great measure. >> that is -- >> i'm trying to be diplomatic.
>> that's a tactful way of saying -- that's pretty god. >> i worked hard on that. >> so let's do some word association. so i take it it's not donald trump. >> i'm not -- listen. i've made a vow. i'm not going to publicly comment on any candidate. >> not going to public comment. so we're joined by msnbc's steve kornacki. how pivotal is that for the campaigns to hear that the koch brothers have no one in mind? >> indicative of the state of this race. we talk about a formless race. the front-runner ben carson at 29%. under 30%. we have more candidates than we have ever seen before and tells you there's a lot of opportunities here for candidates and nobody is winning over, you know, a majority for anything close to a majority in the party right now and the koch brothers and tend to think of them as a party guys, these are stalwarts from the party.
charles koch didn't get involved in politics until 2003. their interest tend to align with republican politicians and not from or of the republican party and they have a lot of issues that the candidates are not addressing. >> it was insight into the family and what they want to do with the money they influence on the right. let's listen to some more of the conversation and asked about the influence of americans on the election cycle. charles koch suggesting money of wealthy contributors to persuade politicians to end corporate welfare. take a look. >> that's not a way to run a democracy, is it? 150 families basically funding the presidential campaigns. >> see, to me, it depends on -- to what end? if it's to get policies that will create open up opportunities for people and get rid of all this corporatism and corporate welfare wherein, what?
7 out of richest counties in the country around washington, d.c.? i mean, and have two-year presidential campaigns, that's all anybody focused on. why is that? >> all right. steve, what do you make about that? >> the interests the end to overlap with the republican party and when did a leader bemoaning too much interest of corporate america and being addressed by the republican party? that's somebody looking for, yes, lower taxes, less regulation and also an end to subsidies and tax breaks to corporations. that's something you don't hear traditionally from republicans. >> interesting to see them side by side and talking today. thanks so much, steve. >> sure. right now in ohio, voters are at the polls deciding if that state is going to become the fifth to legalize pot and it's a bigger deal than you might think because ohio is a large and politically diverse state.
if ohio legalizes weed, the rest of the country might not be far behind. colorado made $63 million in revenue. nbc's erica hill is live in hudson, ohio, for us. they're counting on big numbers to help sell this initiative. what are you hearing on the ground? >> reporter: they are. there's part of this, thomas, of course about the legalization. this ballot measure, issue 3, to amend the state constitution, legalize marijuana for recreational use and available for all ages far medicinal purposes and a separate part of in this and has people in the state riled up. what it would do is create ten dedicated sites including some of the land behind me. 29 acres here that this group responsible ohio confirmed to us they're looking at as an investment property, some of their investors are big names, buy this land because the measure would create ten sites that would have exclusive cheshl
rights to grow and then sell the marijuana to state-controlled stores created. the group responsible ohio pushing the measure has recruited a number of investors, requiring them to put up some money to push this through and they would be the ones to benefit and part of the concern that this would create a monopoly and a separate measure on the ballot issue 2 that would prohibit an amendment to the constitution to create a monopoly in ohio. another reason it's getting so much attention is because of the backers recruited to push the measure. one of them being nicklachey from 98 degrees band and a number of reality shows. he has now been putting his face out there and he grew up here. ads out there. a youtube video talking about why he feels this is good for the state and this group he's part of claims that it could create 30,000 jobs. that it could in just a few short years lead to a $1.1
billion tri and hoping the money will talk and convince voters. so that's what a number of people are watching today. there's 29 acres behind. he would be an investor in buying the plot of land and what people are focused on and in addition to the fact of legalizing marijuana, thomas. >> erica hill in ohio for us, greet see you. thanks. coming up next, should election day be on a saturday? we're going to talk with a lawmaker who was proposing just that. (vo) what does the world r? it runs on optimism. it's what sparks ideas. moves the world forward. invest with those who see the world as unstoppable. who have the curiosity to look beyond the expected and the conviction to be in it for the long term. oppenheimerfunds believes that's the right way to invest... ...in this big, bold, beautiful world.
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>> it's a battle for the soul of the republican party. >> would you have authorized the invasion? >> i would have. >> starts to ask me ridiculous questions and, you know, you could see there's blood coming out of her eyes and wherever. >> you did not mean to suggest that megyn kelly was having her period? >> of course i didn't. >> he would march the israelis to the door of the oven. >> the biggest story of the summer would be the problem inside the democratic party. >> did you wipe the server? >> what? like with a cloth or something? >> in an interview last week donald trump said the following about you. quote, look at that face, would anyone vote for that? >> i think women all over this country heard very clearly what mr. trump said. >> we have a problem in this country. it's called muslims. we know our current president is one. >> we need this question. >> i would not advocate we put a muslim in charge of this nation. >> hillary clinton's lead
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our own andrea mitchell and he has something to say about that. we begin with the contest heating up atop the gop leaderboard. our brand new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll showing ben carson surging ahead of donald trump and leading the republican field. his popularity on display right now in an all-important florida where he's been holding a book signing. voters in tampa started to line up at 5:00 a.m. to see the new republican front-runner in afternoon. also promoting the new book today, donald trump who had a press conference in new york city earlier didn't seem very pleased with his rival's rise. >> you look at ben. he is very weak on immigration and wants to get rid of medicare. ben wants to get rid of medicare. you can't. so, when a man is weak on immigration and wants to get rid of medicare, i don't know how he stays there. >> joining me now, nbc's katy tur. she is frantically still
writing. she's been with the trump campaign and let's begin there. donald trump taking a lot of questions today, give us the cliff notes of what we need to know about today. >> donald trump came out and confident as he always is. he was pretending and not pretending or acting as if the new poll numbers do not bother him. i asked him off the top, what do you think of ben carson's rise? are you worried that maybe it's going to affect you negatively? do you think the book helps you stand out? he glossed over the nbc news polls and pointed out the polls that he is doing well and that's the early states other than iowa and leading in new hampshire and south carolina and florida and other areas. so he wants to focus on that. he is not going to let it show that this may be bothering him. the campaign doesn't want to show any weakness. what i find most interesting, donald trump still bombastic, is not quite as angry personally as he's come off in the past. he is not hitting marco rubio for being a baby or sweaty or a
kid but for the senate record and that's a different donald trump than we saw earlier on in the campaign. >> he did also mention low energy again today and this time he wasn't talking about jeb bush. >> he said he doesn't have the temperament for the job and the experience for the job. he's still very light on ben carson, very gentle with you will in terms of attacks and knows that hitting ben carson hard personally is not going to go over well with the people that like ben carson who also might like him, as well. for him to regain the lead, donald trump has to come off as a mature candidate. >> ben carson actually holding a press availability right now, katy. let's take a moment and listen to him answering questions of reporters. well, i think we are having some trouble with the audio there. as soon as we get that audio restored