tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC November 10, 2015 9:00am-10:01am PST
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good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington on a critical super tuesday for the top republican presidential candidates. tonight in wisconsin, the establishment, the outsiders and the long shots, are going to take part in a debate that could draw the line between presidential contenders and pretenders. let's go to our team live in milwaukee. chris jansing, hallie jackson and kasie hunt. chris, let's talk about ben carson. what's at stake for him tonight? >> reporter: well, i think he's got a lot at stake going in because the top two new polls, one a national poll, another in south carolina, where he's gained 13 points since that poll was last taken, but he has also been under fire more than anyone and certainly in spite of the fact that his opponents and pundits have questioned his contention that nobody has come under as much scrutiny as he has, these questions that have been raised about his past as they're described in his books,
his campaign believes has really prepared him for this debate tonight. he hasn't gotten stellar reviews for debate performances, generally judged to be in the middle of the pack, so tonight they are very curious to see who, if anyone, comes after him. donald trump certainly has led the way in recent days. and they also feel confident about some stories that have come out that at least in part, debunk some of the accusations against him. for example, we saw the "parade" magazine yesterday from the late 1990s when ben carson's mother sonya supported a story that had been questioned about what had happened when he was -- whether or not he actually attacked someone with a knife. here's the quote. oh, that really happened, his mother said. i sat him down and told him you don't accomplish much by being a bully. and then there was another article that was in buzzfeed about a prank on the yale campus, people questioned whether or not he had been in
this classroom. apparently that really did happen. there was an article in the yale newspaper and buzzfeed has tracked down someone who was on campus at the time. so they are feeling pretty confident going in, but they don't feel like the debates have been the driving force in all of this. in fact, in many ways, the attacks that they feel have come from the media and from some of his opponents are what are driving both his popularity and his fund-raising. >> in fact, i just now see a new e-mail from the carson campaign saying that the media tonight is going to be in full attack mode and trying to fund-raise on this. hallie jackson, let's talk about donald trump. this was donald trump in illinois last night, zeroing in on ben carson. >> if you try and hit your mother over the head with a hammer, your poll numbers go up. you stab somebody, and the newspapers says you didn't do it
and you say yes, i did, i did it. if they said i didn't do it, i would be so happy. this is the only election in history where you're better off if you stab somebody. what are we coming to? >> hallie jackson? he seems to be making a point that could resonate well tonight if he does it again at the debate. >> reporter: let's be honest, it would be surprising to not hear this kind of language coming from donald trump tonight. i just got off the phone with a top aide to the trump campaign who says they are looking forward to tonight. they are not revealing much about their strategy as it were. mr. trump is still in new york heading to milwaukee today. some of the other campaigns have done walk-throughs. it's interesting, donald trump on the debate stage has had a couple good debates but also at some points in the last few debates has faded into the background a little bit. there have been long stretches where we didn't necessarily hear from trump, where he had a couple good moments, for example, at the last debate. he had that lehman brothers slam
against governor kasich. so he has these moments where he can shine, but overall, it's not as though the debate is doing for him what it does for, for example, somebody like marco rubio or ted cruz, where it propels them into the spotlight and gives them momentum moving forward. that said, trump, listen, he says he's a counter puncher but he sometimes punches first. we saw that for example in his tweet storm last night against marco rubio, an attack line he's used before, still talking about the sweating and drinking water, et cetera. it would be unusual for us to not see some of that from trump tonight. that's what we will be keeping an eye on. >> kasie hunt, jeb and rubio. is jeb bush going to attempt to take him on again and risk the blowback that obviously happened last time? >> reporter: we will have to wait and see. his team tells me privately they are not planning necessarily an aggressive hit, but clearly, if it comes to that, jeb bush isn't
going to stand by and be attacked by marco rubio. rubio, of course, has just finished his walk-through, tweeting a photo of himself behind the podium, clearly getting ready for tonight. but the conversation that's going on behind the scenes is all about this "new york times" story that starts with this ad that's reportedly been cut by mike murphy and the team at the right to rise super pac, essentially the point of it is to show what general election attacks on rubio would look like and it focuses on abortion because rubio of course is opposed to exceptions for rape and incest, something that many republicans privately say is a potential problem for women voters. he also voted against the violence against women act, another potential problem. so the story positing that murphy would be willing to spend up to $20 million on the air for attacks like this. that is generating pushback from rubio's camp and from some people who are supportive of bush and are concerned he is essentially taking down this young, dynamic potential future
candidate for the republican party. bush himself has struggled a little to land some of these attacks. we saw that in the last debate. when i talked to him in new hampshire, in my interview, he said yes, people have to be vetted but he said he personally is not the one to do the vetting. this obviously would be coming from this super pac. but marco rubio's team is already out pushing back against this. they have an online ad out showing all of the times that bush has praised rubio. >> marco has what i think is something the republican party needs to have, which is a hopeful, optimistic message based on our principles. i'm a huge marco fan. >> he's probably the most articulate conservative on the scene today. that afrfords him to be a good president. >> reporter: that of course is not all of the comments that bush has made historically praising rubio, who of course is
his former protege. in one speech in the senate, during the senate campaign, bush said rubio was so talented it moved him to tears. >> kasie hunt, hallie jackson, chris jansing in milwaukee, thank you all. joining me for the daily fix, chris cillizza and ann gearan and pete williams. you have news on the immigration front. this will quickly become a 2016 issue if it wasn't already before, it certainly will be tonight given what just happened with the fifth circuit basically throwing out the executive actions by which the president was trying to slow down deportations. >> right. no surprise in that fifth circuit ruling. the same appeals panel basically had earlier said that it didn't think much of the president's arguments but now the justice department says the administration's going to go right to the supreme court and it put out this statement. it says the department of justice remains committed to taking steps that will resolve the immigration litigation as quickly as possible to let the
department of homeland security bring greater accountability to the immigration system, prioritizing the removal of the worst offenders, not people who have long ties to the united states and are raising children. this is the heart of the fight, because this would allow people here illegally to stay if they have children who are citizens and it would expand the program to let young people stay who were brought here as children. texas and 25 other states claim that the administration was trying to put this policy into place illegally without getting public comment first. the white house, as you saw in that statement, says this is all just about enforcement priorities. we want to go after the worst of the worst, but the court said the heart of the plan actually would give benefits, it's not just who you go after, it's that you would affirmatively give benefits to people here illegally including social security and qualification for work permits and the states say that would impose a financial burden on them. so far, in the lower court, that's been a winner and now the
administration is hoping that it will succeed in the supreme court. there's still time to get this case before the justices in this current term. >> what's the likelihood or i guess it's too difficult to predict whether the court will take the case? >> well, in the recent immigration decisions, the supreme court has emphasized that immigration policy is primarily a federal responsibility and the states can't do anything to block it. this was the decision, for example, against arizona. but at the same time, this question of a president acting on his own with his administration plan, the question is, is this in conformance with what congress had in mind or against it and that's where the real question will be. >> chris cillizza, this is clearly going to be part of an immigration debate for the republicans. is rubio going to be pressed on the issue and the fact that he was originally in favor of comprehensive program, his own legislation that he then backed down on? >> well, this is one of the many
problems for jeb bush in attacking marco rubio. as kasie pointed out, he said many nice things about marco rubio and jeb bush is the obvious person to sort of need to get past marco rubio in this race, but jeb bush's position on comprehensive immigration reform is not very different than rubio's. yes, i think rubio could come under some attack. it could be from donald trump. ben carson has shown literally zero interest in engaging in attacking thus far. i can't imagine him going on offense. but yes, broadly in the race, i think the biggest concern for rubio is immigration and this reinserts that into the race. as you noted, this was always sort of an issue in the campaign and certainly in a general election will be an issue republicans will harp on. but this sort of puts it news peg to it, ensures that rubio maybe from the moderators will be asked about his position because essentially, he was for this, it passed the senate, it was clear it wasn't going anywhere in the house and he just stopped talking about it
because he understood the politics of it. >> in fact, ann gearan, in covering the democrats as well, this is a win/win proposition for hillary clinton. she has actually gone farther in her proposals than barack obama as you well know, proposing that the parents of the dreamers actually also be exempted from deportation. >> right. it's no accident that one of the very first and most detailed proposals she put forward was her immigration program which just as you say, would go significantly beyond actually what the white house has currently done. she was careful in announcing it not to overtly criticize the white house but she made the point that more is actually available to president obama on paper than he has taken advantage of. now, the white house comes back and says look what's happening today in the fifth circuit, look where -- look what happens when you test this in the courts. we are trying to be prudent, we are trying to do the maximum
that we think is available and that has any realistic chance of surviving court scrutiny. >> in a general election context, the democrats can say we pushed the envelope and even if they lose in the supreme court, by june, if it's taken up, they can say we were on the side of this. it's a big issue with hispanic americans and others. >> yes. and she made that original proposal in nevada and she has done several other immigration oriented events in that early voting state. again, no accident. same thing as she's doing to a degree with african mann nchln- voters and issues geared to appeal to their desire to vote democratic in south carolina where the black vote will be very important for her. those are the two states that vote after iowa and new hampshire of course, and that's where we begin to see democratic attempts to go well beyond the primarily white voter base in issues that appeal there in iowa and new hampshire.
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reform under this clique. i have my doubts. i hope i'm wrong. i suspect i will be proved right. >> benjamin netanyahu last night at the american enterprise institute being honored there. here in washington the iran nuclear deal, fiercely opposed by israel's leader, adding to disagreements over israel's settlements policy with the obama administration and also the american-led peace talks with the palestinians. i'm joined by the spokesman for prime minister netanyahu. welcome. very good to see you. i know the prime minister is speaking right now. he's got a busy schedule and is obviously hoarse, suffering from the same ailment that all of us travelers suffer from these days. when we focus on his meeting with president obama, it was the first meeting in more than a year, first meeting since the iran deal, since his speech to congress which the white house
was so upset with, and also the appointment of this new diplomatic communications leader which has upset the white house. how did it go? >> we actually had a very good meeting yesterday at the white house. >> you all agree on security and on the security commitments. we are hearing numbers like $4 billion, an extra billion dollars to israel. >> i don't want to go into the numbers. it's premature. we are still having discussions on the nuts and bolts of what the security threats are and what needs to be done to meet those threats. but we had a very good conversation yesterday with the president. it's true, you are 100% correct we had a disagreement about the iran deal but now we are looking forward. we are looking ahead and it's important that israel and the united states cooperate together to meet the challenges. we first of all have to make sure that iran keeps its part of the deal, keep their feet to the fire. we have to make sure we check iran's aggression in the region. as you know, iran is in iraq, syria, lebanon, libya, they are
playing a very, very destabilizing role in the region. finally, terrorism. they are involved in terrorism. the iranians are involved in terrorism in asia, africa, the middle east, even terror cells in this hemisphere. all that behavior has to be checked. >> i was just going to say, i did not mean to interrupt, to your point, there are reports today they have stopped taking down centrifuges so the compliance with the iran deal which will lead to their sanctions relief still has to be verified and certified. >> 100%. >> but if you want to get along with the white house, why have a diplomatic spokesman, a communication chief, ron barratz, who has been posting on facebook things like that president obama is analogized to the modern face of antisemitism in western and liberal countries and also suggesting that john kerry, he wished the secretary of state success in the countdown to two years on the
calendar with the hope that someone in the state department will then wake up and begin to see the world through the eyes of a man with a mental age above 12. i cannot even tell you how offended people in the white house are around the president. yet the prime minister comes here and has not changed his mind about this appointment? is he going to change it when he goes home? >> what has he said? he said that these remarks are unacceptable. he totally disassociated himself with them. >> why have this person as his diplomatic spokesman? >> baratz of course publicly apologized, said it was wrong to say what he said. >> no retreat -- >> no decision has been taken. it's on hold when he gets back. he will be meeting with baratz but the point is this. he said publicly those remarks are unacceptable. he said they don't represent him, they don't represent the policies of the government and he was very clear about that. >> i wanted to ask you about isis or isil, because in a meeting with the british foreign
secretary, a small group of reporters and i on the record today at breakfast, he made it very clear that not only is there the likelihood of a bomb, he said this is not rocket science, all you need is a couple pounds of explosives, it's school boy physics, couple of pounds of explosives and a timer and that the problem, according to their information, is it was definitely the problem of security at the airport and it's not he said the equipment, it's the vetting of the personnel at the airport and that in the overnight, the first overnight wednesday night, and looking at the ctv footage, by 7:00 a.m. they were telling downing street you've got to pull people out of here and stop sending planes in, and now putin has acknowledged that they are going to extend the hold on russian planes going in. so you've got the potential, according to the brits and now according to american intelligence as well, of an isis affiliate or isis central command with a bomb capacity right next door to you in the sinai. >> it's worrying. we accept those assessments.
we share them. in fact, i think israeli intelligence has been part of getting the answers to that tragedy with the plane. from israel's perspective, you have isis in sinai to our south, to israel's north you have hezbollah in lebanon, you have what's going on in syria. we are facing a very, very difficult security situation. we see in the middle east today, nation states that have been there for almost a century just fall apart. syria has fallen apart. libya's falling apart. >> are you better off with assad at least as horrific as it is for his own people, the barrel bombing, are you worried about a diplomatic solution that will lead to assad leaving as the russians complain and another vacuum like libya, egypt, arguably and others? >> we all grew up with movies that there are good guys and bad guys. unfortunately when you look at syria, you see on one side assad, iran, hezbollah. no friends of the united states, no friends of israel. on the other side, you see al qaeda, al nusra and isis, also
not our friends. we would argue to be very careful in syria, you want to weaken both and not strengthen one at the expense of the other and of course, we have to look after our interests. we have had hostile fire from syria into israel. we can't accept that. we have seen the transfer of dangerous weapons from syria or through syria to hezbollah. we won't stand for that either. we've got to be very careful not to play in the hands of one side of radicals and see them in power. neither of them are our friends. when you have two enemies who are fighting, and they are both mortal enemies of america and israel, when you have two enemies fighting, weaken both. >> obviously complicated. to be continued. as the prime minister continues his trip today. still to come, breaking roles. many know him as walter white. coming up, we talk to bryan cranston about his latest role.
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after a documentary exposed disturbing practices and declining revenue then resulted from a declining attendance, sea world announced it is going to phase out its signature shamu show at its san diego park. the killer whale show will be replaced with an educational experience they say in the quote, more natural setting, bending to mounting pressure from activists and treatment of the 24 orcas in captivity at all sea world parks. i'm joined by john hargrove, former senior orca trainer at sea world, author of "beneath the surface." he was featured in the 2013 documentary "black fish." thank you for joining us. is this enough, what sea world has announced, when they talk about a more natural setting? is that what you want or do you want more? >> no. this is an absolute smoke screen. this is clear manipulation to the public and this has been going on for years.
the best way i can give you an example of is what just happened with the california coastal commission. they proposed that they were going to build a $100 million brand new pool for the welfare of the orcas to give them a better quality of life, and when the commissioners on the coastal commission said well, are you going to continue your breeding program and your forced artificial insemination program after they stuttered and paused and lost their words for awhile, then they said well, yes, we are, then the california coastal commission unanimously voted no, we are not going to let you continue to breed your orcas. if you want to build them a brand new $100 million pool to give them a better quality of life, then yes, but not if you are going to continue to breed them. so sea world's response to that was then we're not going to build it and we are going to sue you. so that proves that sea world all along never was going to build that pool to give those whales a better quality of life.
it was all about having more space to create more scientifically engineered whales because they are all cross-bred now and increasingly inbred which does not happen in the wild and it was never for the welfare of the animals. if you listen to what joel manby said, you couldn't be more vague. he said we're going to have, i'm paraphrasing a little bit -- >> the ceo of sea world. >> correct. he said, you probably have it in front of you, he said a new orca experience in 2017. you cannot get any more vague than that. what does that mean? i don't think they gave any details because i don't even think they have them. i don't think they know what it is. they are just desperate to try to reclaim some investor traction, some confidence with the investors, and also with the public.
and they are rouunning out of things to say. >> very briefly, what should they do? should the whales be released into the wild? they would probably not survive the way they have been inbred. should this be shut down? >> what i was hoping, i was hoping he was going to come out and say listen, we are going to stop our killer whale breeding program. if sea world stopped their killer whale breeding program and forced artificial insemination program, they could evolve into a park such as universal studios who have these incredible rides where you can still have an immersive experience and teach people about marine life and not have to have caged animals for your entertainment and for profit. but sea world refuses to do that. they refuse to end their breeding program and until they make that decision, this controversy is not going to go away and their free-fall is not going to go away. their stock is half of the value
that it was before "black fish." look at the decreasing attendance, revenue and everything is just going down the toilet, really, with them. >> we have to leave it there. to be continued. we will reach out to joel manby as well. thank you very much, john hargrove. after the break, democracy on trial. emmy and tony award winning actor bryan cranston plays the legendary writer blacklisted during the red scare. he joins us next. this guy from engineering says directv is so advanced that you could put tvs anywhere without looking at cable wires and boxes in every room. how are they always one step ahead of us? well, because their technology is far superior. or because they have someone on the inside. is that right, gil? sir, i would never... he's with them! he's wearing a wire. take off his shirt! take off his shirt! oh! ah! alright, i'm putting you in charge of the holiday party.
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just serve classy snacks and bew a gracious host,iday party. no matter who shows up. do you like nuts? it is a shameful time in our not very distant past, a time when activists, politicians, diplomats, even hollywood screenwriters could find themselves subpoenaed by congress, even sentenced to prison, for alleged communist ties or real communist ties. it was a crisis of free speech,
a constitutional rights that tore our system apart to its core. the new movie brings those days vividly to life telling the story of dalton trumbo, who was forced to use pseudonyms after being blacklisted as one of the hollywood ten. >> the highest paid writer in hollywood. >> my husband. >> a registered communist. >> dangerous. >> radical. >> dad. >> rebel. >> genius. >> are you not or have you ever been a member of the communist party? >> many questions can be answered yes or no only by a moron or a slave. >> subpoenas have been issued to those we believe have knowledge of the ongoing communist threat in hollywood. >> congress has no right to investigate what we think or how we make movies. >> i'm joined now by emmy and tony award winning actor bryan cranston who plays dalton trumbo and the film's director, jay roach. welcome, both. this is quite an achievement.
tell me what inspired you to want to bring this era as i described it, a shameful era, to life. >> well, it's just that. like any good novel, i read this script by john mcnamara and it told the story of a dark era when civil liberties were capitcast aside and men were sent to prison and denied their ability to pursue their own livelihood and be responsible for their families and such. it was stark and simply because they had a different opinion as to what might be an option politically. and that really drew me in and then of course, the character of dalton trumbo himself is a flamboyant, prolific, iconoclast. i just love the man. he's unique and quite talented
in his field. >> did you find similarities in his flamboyance and his unique qualities to lbj, whom you played so memorably? >> yes, actually, i do. in fact, i think if you drew a diagram, you would find more things in common with those two characters than you do outside of that. both incredibly ambitious, both very prolific, talented beyond means and without peer in many cases of their own particular expertise. and i think also that they were driven to a point where they needed more approval and i don't know if they were ever really satiated with the amount of love or respect or attention that they got. they were in need of that. >> that says a lot about politics, jay, doesn't it? you specialized recently in recount and game change and other politically inspired screenplays you have turned into movies.
what is it about politicians, maybe some who will be on a stage in milwaukee tonight and crave that attention? >> i think that's what it takes, it's what it takes to do what we do, too, especially i think actors, part of the drive is wanting to connect to people. it becomes addictive. as a person who has worked in comedy, when you hear a whole audience of people laughing, you start to chase that and i think politicians start to enjoy the affirmation. but it becomes a bit of a siren, a bit of a mirage that you end up chasing so intensely that you can lose track of what matters, you can start to be about win at all costs. actually, i was thinking the other day, all the films i have been involved with in some way involve that notion of win at all costs, even if it means destroying or trying to destroy your enemy, winning is
everything in our system. i think that's what kind of drives a lot of the dysfunction and pathology, if you will, of some of it. >> it really draws us back to the basic constitutional questions. here's a clip from the film with you and the great helen mirren. >> drinking alone? >> preferably. >> and what are you up to these days? >> you know, another one of these and i just may tell you. >> then i'm buying. usual. same again. oh, come on. i hear the rumors. show me you're still in the game fighting the good fight. rub my face in it. whisper a movie you've written in secret. maybe i have even heard of it. >> maybe you have. >> well, that's helen mirren
played heda hopper and trying to expose you, dalton. drew me in. he wrote pseudonymously during that whole period. >> he did. he was forced to. not only was he taken his physical liberties away by being sent to prison for a year but when he got out, he was one of the charter members of blacklift and was forbidden to write under his own name so he was forced to write and try to make a living under pseudonyms. ironically, the two of the names that he used were names that won oscars. so sweet and sour at the same time because he wasn't able to claim it or even talk about it. >> roman holiday. >> and the brave one. and it's again, a period where
the irony of it is that he developed a cadre of all reporters writing under names -- the writers were not supposed to write and that's what they're doing. >> here we are in a political season. you care about politics. you care about civil society. and none of us in journalism i think or politics right now are really happy with the way this campaign is going. >> well, it's devolved, hasn't it? i have worked on recount, if you just can stir up more conversation, if we all continue to focus on solutions, if somehow the political process
can improve even on the issue of voting rights which i found seems to have devolved. you can become cynical but on the other hand, this is what i love about this story, trumbo was the opposite of cynical. he was an idealist and a humanist, and his movies are always about how can we do better and so i try to make a movie that honors that, because this movie, although it's about such a dark time, it ends with a speech which says there were no heroes or villains, only victims. if we just stop doing this to each other, there's hope. so i hope that there's hope from the film, that we can inspire ourselves through telling good stories the way trumbo did to work towards solutions. >> it's such an important historic lesson. i'm also excited to learn that "all the way" will be a three-hour hbo movie that you already shot, i think. >> we just wrapped a few weeks ago. >> that is a great story.
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now to the fallout at the university of missouri where long-simmering protests and the strike of members of the football team forced the resignation of the school's chancellor of the columbia campus. it comes after months of criticism over allegations of harassment against minority students. one student who ended an eight-day hunger strike said it was long overdue. joining me is naomi collier, a junior at the university of missouri and an activist. thank you for being with us today. >> hello, andrea. >> this is not an overnight occurrence. we saw the resignations yesterday. they seemed to respond quickly
to the football team's threatened boycott but this has been building for some time. what's your view of the key issues right now that still need to be resolved? >> yeah. key issues i believe are just again, it's human nature for you to empathize with somebody and especially a marginalized group of people, regardless of what your background is. i think that's the key issue here. i think that there's a standard at the university of missouri to not necessarily empathize with people. i think that's very simple to achieve but again, a lot of people are ignorant, a lot of people are miseducated about the issues and struggles that we go through on a daily basis. i'm a student but also a citizen of this campus. for no rhyme or reason should i ever feel like i am not safe, should i ever feel oppressed or marginalized in a place that is supposed to promote education. >> how widespread do you think have been these racial epithets and other harassments, other slurs and insults against minority students on the campus
which is so majority white, 77% or more white. >> right. well, honestly, this has been happening since i have been on this campus. i came to the university of missouri in 2013, i'm from st. louis, missouri, and this is the most racial discrimination i have ever experienced in my life. again, it can be something very basic on a daily basis that some people don't even understand is discrimination or some people don't understand is being just insensitive to the struggles that we go through on a daily basis. not only just small incidents, but the larger ones like for example, a lot of people are now aware of the incident in class. i was one of those members that was discriminated against that was called a racial slur by an intoxicated white male. yet again, two days before we did other demonstrations, there were, you know, young women called out of their name. so things happen on a regular
basis. it has been i would say accepted in our culture somewhat and that's not okay. i don't feel comfortable and a lot of our students don't feel comfortable in an environment where racial discrimination is essentially condoned. >> i know that emotions are very high right now. i wanted to show you a little bit of a confrontation that was shot by one of the -- i think a student reporter or another video source, but it shows that the students are really resistant to some of the media trying to cover this story. let me show you this. [ chanting ] >> reporter: i have a job to do. i'm documenting this. this i a first amendment that protects your right to stand there. >> i know this was not shot by nbc but that young photographer was unable to do his job. is there a way to get back to
some sort of civil discourse here or there is still so much tension, you have a ways to go. we don't have that much time. >> no, definitely. i do believe that we are getting back to that civil discourse. i believe the whole thing was civil. at no point did anything get violent, everything was a peaceful protest, even with the camp-out. there was nothing that got, in my opinion, out of control. the students are fed up. as far as the media's concerned, at times they can be overwhelming and insensitive to the feelings and emotions that are present at that time. i think what that photographer experienced was kind of the backlash of that, and again, he may have just been ignorant or uneducated about how that particular group of students were feeling at the time and again, i understand he had to do his job but there has to be an ethical line at that moment. >> thanks so much for sharing.
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