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had secretary of state john kerry both basically say that what is unfolding in places like syria and parts of iraq is the embodiment of the worst kind of evil in our time. i think, in that case, we see it from an arm's length or further than that distance. this is bringing the horrors of that civil war inside syria x some of the trauma that we've seen as people trying to eggs cape that. a lot of people talking about refugees and blaming them for what is happening in france and others have been saying those refugees are running from this. i think that's very important to keep in mind. there's deep horror in this part of world and we're getting greater glimpse of it because it's somehow coming into our cities. >> steve clemons, thank you very much. appreciate it. it's just past midnight here on the east coast in the u.s. we're continuing to follow the horrific news out of paris where it is now 6:00 a.m. local time.
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french authorities say at least 120 people were killed in a series of apparently coordinated attacks throughout the city. paris prosecutor says that eight people involved in the attacks are dead. seven of them in suicide bombings. said it was possible that others are still at large. the attacks happened at a concert hall, venue called the bataclan, as well as several restaurants. a soccer stadium outside the city. it was at that stadium at 9:30 p.m. local time, packed tonight for an international soccer match. friendly between germany and france, francois hollande in attendance. that's where events began to unfold. with what may have been two or three explosions. shortly thereafter, gunmen opened fire on restaurants in the east of paris. then came the deadliest attack. according to the associated press, paris police say an attacker sprayed cafes outside the bataclan concert venue with
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gunfire. attackers then went inside the concert hall killing more people, taking hostages before ultimately french security forces started to move in. at that point, according to police, several of the attackers blew themselves up with their suicide belts. french president declared a state of emergency for the country the first time anything like that has happened since world war ii. he has ordered the country's borders closed. he says to make sure they can apprehend the assailants. in a phone call with hollande earlier this evening, president obama reiterated the united states' support. president obama appeared for a brief statement at the white house. in which he decried what he called an outrageous attempt to against civilians. here are the remarks. >> i just want to make a few brief comments that the attacks across paris tonight. once again, we've seen an
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outrageous attempt to terrorize innocent civilians. this is an attack not just on paris. it's an attack not just on the people of france. but this is an attack ton all of humanity and the universal values that we share. we stand prepared and ready to provide whatever assistance that the government and the people of france need to respond. france is our oldest ally. the french people have stood shoulder to shoulder with the united states time and again. we want to be very clear that we stand together with them in a fight against terrorism and extremism. paris itself represents the timeless values of human progress. those who think that they can terrorize the people of france or the values that they stand for are wrong.
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the american people draw strength from the french people's commitment to life, liberty, pursuit of happiness. we're reminded that the bonds of libertye and paternitye are not only values of the french people care so deeply about but they're values that we share. the values will endure far beyond any act of terrorism or the hateful vision of those who perpetrated the crimes this evening. we're going to do whatever it takes to work with the french people and with nations around the world to bring these terroristst to justice and to go after any terrorist networks that go after our people. we don't yet know all the details of what has happened.
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we have been in tcontact with fh officials to express our deepest condolences and offer prayers and thoughts to those wounded. we have offered our full support to them. the situation is still unfolding. i have chosen not to call president hollande at this time because my expectation is that he is very busy at the moment. i actually, by coincidence, was talking to him earlier today in preparation for the g-20 meeting. but i am confident that i'll be in direct communications with him in the next few days and will be coordinating in any ways that they think are helpful in the investigation of what's happened. this is a heartbreaking situation and obviously those of us in the united states know what it's like. we've gone through these kinds of episodes ourselves.
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whenever these kinds of attacks happen, we've always been able to count on the french people to stand with us. they have been an extraordinary counterterrorism partner and we intend to be -- beowe there witm in that same fashion. i'm sure that in the days ahead, we'll learn more about what happened. and my teams will make sure that we are in communication with the press to provide you accurate information. i don't want to speculate in terms of who was responsible for this. it appears that there may still be live activity and dangers that are taking place as we speak. until we know from french officials that the situation is under control and we have more information about it, i don't want to speculate. okay? thank you very much. >> all right. that was the president speaking earlier today. i'm joined by caliper i, editor for the msnbc discover desk and
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a reporter for the guardian. your team has been taking lots of eyewitness accounts of those who experienced the terror tonight in paris. what are some of the things you've heard? >> absolutely. we've got several reporters on the ground in paris. we've been talking to eyewitnesses who are inside the bataclan when the attack happened. it's really horrific stuff. people carrying under -- hiding under other bodies. we spoke with a photographer inside the stadium at the time and he was sitting in one of the press boxes. his two children, a 19 and 5-year-old were in the audience sitting below watching the match and he was saying that immediately he was stricken by panic something happened to his children. he said that it was engulfed in chaos and also in quiet. >> one of the details you gave of the bataclan was that it now appears that these assailants we
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think there's four of them, at least that's what the early reporting would indicate -- one eyewitness account said three. somewhere in that neighborhood. they entered without mass and silent. >> i was surprised to hear that. one of them on the ground said that it was completely quiet. they weren't wearing masks and he was in particular struck by how young they looked. couldn't be older than 20 or 25. that was harrowing. >> cal, you've been monitoring some of the eyewitness accounts as well. what have you heard? >> a few things sticking out. one being they arrived at a place where all of this plays out instantaneously on social media one of the questions i have, in this theater did some of the eyewitness accounts that we were reading on twitter as they were being typed and texted, as they were being put on facebook, is that one of the things that maybe propelled the anti-terror forces to take that theater?
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we've been talking a lot about the attack in 2008 in mumbai. one of the things that made that such an effective attack was that it played out on television over the course of almost 48, 72 hours. it controlled the news cycle. i'm wondering if that was the original attempt. i want to get back to something you said, chris, about the stadium. we know that french officials kept people in that stadium. when you look at that map and where the attacks took place, it's quite possible that the attackers wanted to set off the bombs outside the stadium to flush the people who were in that stadium outside so that they could open up fire. as this investigation continues, i think it's possible we may realize that french anti-terror police and officials may have saved many lives by evacuating that stadium section by section. >> the word from the -- what you mentioned cal, was that if folks were not tuned to their televisions earlier today, there was in the early portion of this, there was essentially what appeared to be a live hostage
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situation at the bataclan. not only a live hostage situation in which some of the deaths were reported a the restaurant shootings and the bomgs at the stadium. active survivors inside but several reports on social media of people inside, one man in particular wounded taking to social media to basically say they are going to kill us. >> right. sorry. i mean to interrupt. we were sort of reading this as it was coming out. our first clue, interesting will you enough, that the police were taking that theater was french television dropped their live signal of the front of that building. that was a very clear message and it was coming from the police. they didn't want to give anything away. again, we've reached this really interesting point where everybody has access to a cell phone, everybody has access to instantaneous information and no one wants to give anything away. that's true for people inside the buildings who are being held hostage. that's true for the hostage takers and the anti-terror
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police. it will be interesting to see and we're hearing and we know that 6,000 police have been assigned to take the eyewitness statements of more than 2,000 people. it will be interesting to see in the next day or two as this investigation plays out whether or not those messages from inside that theater very dramatic horrifying firsthand accounts of people being executed individually, were those messages one of the things that really prompted police to breach that building? >> there did seem to be a quick period of time passing between those reports circulating and french authorities moving in. you could imagine, of course, being confronted with the possibility of a hostage situation in which it may be the case that they're taken hostage for an extended negotiation and a possibility of getting them out. that was the end game, of course, at the kosher market. at the end of the "charlie hebdo" attacks had taken a dozen, two dozen people hostage inside that kosher market in imy
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ultimately, french anti-tesh terrorism forces stormed that and many were killed. cal perry thank you for your time snoond thank you from the garden as well. francois hollande in a somewhat impromptu moment addressed the aftermath at that concert venue. we're going to play you that sound after we take a quick break. don't go anywhere. you owned your car for four years. you named it brad. you loved brad. and then you totaled him. you two had been through everything together. two boyfriends. three jobs. you're like "nothing can replace brad!" then liberty mutual calls. and you break into your happy dance.
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french president francois hollande had been watching a soccer game when explosions went off outside the stadium. he was evacuated. everyone else stayed inside that
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stadium. in fact, the match was finished between germany and france. a friendly. later, the president announced a state of emergency for france. he closed the borders to ensure the perpetrators could not escape the country. hollande later vowed to lead a fight which would be ruthless. >> translator: i decided to mobilize all the available forces and law enforcement so that we can apprehend the terrorists and that we can secure all the areas that might be -- i've also asked that the military bring some reinforcements and there are now in paris. because we want to make sure that there is no other terrorist attack after these ones. and also, to come here right now. so we have a cabinet meeting in a few minutes. all the decisions for a state of
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emergency will be decided. a number of locations will be closed. some streets will be closed to traffic and there will be searchers made in the paris region. state of emergency is for the entire territory of france. the second is to close all the french borders. we need to make sure that no one can enter france to commit any act whatsoever. and we also want to make sure anyone who might have committed those heinous crimes can be apprehended if they try to leave france. it's a terrible drama -- trauma for france. and once again, we are under attack. we know where it's coming from. we know where they're coming from, those criminals. we must in those extreme difficult moments think about all the victims, the too
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numerous victims and too many injured as well. we need to think about the families as well and we need to show compassion, but we're also remain calm. we need to remain calm in the situation. france needs to be strong and the authorities will be strong. we need to also call upon each and every one of us to remain responsible. what the terrorists really want is to scare us and to instill fear and there are reasons to be afraid now. but facing fear, the nation knows how -- knows how to mobilize its forces and once again, it will know how to defeat the terrorists. ladies and gentlemen of france, this is not over. this still had a number of terrorist attacks ongoing and currently the security forces are launching rescue, especially
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in paris. as we speak, i want you to remain confident in the government and in law enforcement because we will do everything we can to stop terrorist attack. >> all right, joining me now nbc news london correspondent kelly cobiella. can you give us a sense of the context in france and europe. obviously, this is the second attack in a year. the hollande government was largely, i think, applauded for its reaction to the hebdo attacks but has seen fortunes decline precipitously and another party strengthened. what does this mean for french society and french politics? >> well, a couple of different avenues. french politics and society can go. either they splinter off and become even more segmented and
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fragmented because of this or they unite which is what the french president is asking his country to do tonight. unite against this violence. and fight it. but you do have a very difficult situation in france where you have a muslim population and arab population which is marginalized, not all of them but a significant number. you have fighters who have left to join the islamic state. you have these previous terrorist attacks. and foiled attacks as well. you'll recall that has happened several times over the past several months. ever since "charlie hebdo." what's more, chris, you have the same problem in neighboring countries like belgium. you have this issue in the united kingdom as well. this is not something that's isolated in france. it is perhaps particularly highlighted in france because they've had now these two
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absolutely horrific terrorist attacks. but they are not alone in this. other countries throughout europe are dealing with this as well. >> yeah. we've seen a number of disrupted plots, obviously france has been a target. they were a target before. there was some reporting, again, this unconfirmed but from french outlets of the word syria crossing the lips of at least one of the assailants. i don't have independent nbc confirm maation on this. that shade, hollande is not someone who scheidt away from military intervention. he pushed the libyan intervention with the u.s. in fact, was very forward on that. he invaded mali and sent french ground troops to intervene and has recently sent air strikes over syria. it's been quite militarily
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involved around the world. >> it has. but internally, president hollande is not a popular president or a popular leader. he doesn't necessarily have the support of the french people. i'm noft talking specifically about the military action. i'm talking in general. there are a lot of other problems within french society, problems with the economy, problems with readjusting to the workforce there so they can get the economy back on track. problems with the budget. he's not seen as a particularly strong leader. i think the military action is probably the one area where he has been seen as sort of standing up to these threats and making some very tough decisions. but here you see a potential side effect of that. that is that france is very much a target, particularly paris where you have soft targets throughout the city.
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a place where you can go out in an evening, weapons clearly are available on the black market. whether it's from another country or from within france. you have vulnerable people. a very open society where people can be attacked where, if you have someone who has a grievance, who has sided with a militant group, there is opportunity to create some sort of mass casualty, some spectacular attack like this tonight. by the way, chris, we should mention that we've heard just in the past few minutes the french prosecutor's office is now saying that there were eight attackers, at least eight attackers. eight attackers are now dead. seven of them in suicide bombings. seven of them blew themselves up. three, of those, if you follow me, were in that concert hall.
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a fourth attacker also in that concert hall was apparently killed by officers when they went in. once again, you have a different kind of attack as well. suicide bombings, this is not something that happened on french soil before. >> also, kelly, obviously this comes and i should reiterate there is zero evidence that there's any refugee connection in terms of the assail yants. in terms of the ripple effects in france and how it will affect french opinion and across europe, of course, europe deal with the largest migration of people, largest refugee crisis since world war i i and it has promoted an interns conflict and political debate about the borderless area created. it was suspended by france today. i presume this is going to be a singular point of political debate between nations and within national conversations going forward. >> it will certainly come up
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again. i mean, when you have a borderless area, think about all of the things that can go cross-country. think about another country maybe not particularly strong in controlling the gun trade, a black market, a more diverse population. there are reports all along the coast of france. you know, you have so many points of entry not just on the french land borders. but also on sea borders. and yes, it will create yet another discussion on whether or not the policy, the open border policy in europe actually works. it doesn't make sense to have people unchecked coming across the border, be they migrants or just normal travelers, without being checked at all. that's something that people are
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going to be talking about certainly after this attack. they've been talking about it even before and this will amplify that. >> kelly cobiella, nbc news correspondent. thank you for your time. we appreciate it. as we go to break, our coverage continues. don't go anywhere. look at the scene in new york city union square. exchange students gathered for a vigil. they've broken the song in solidarity for the victims. ♪ ♪ when it comes to helping you reach your financial goals,t taking small, manageable steps can be an effective... and enjoyable approach... compared to the alteatives. push! i am pushing! sfx: pants ripping how you doing eddie?
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ongoing. paris officials say at the rock venue, the scene of the most horrific violence attackers opened fire in ak-47 assault rifles, continuing to execute hostages over a two-hour standoff. several attackers reportedly blew themselves up with suicide belts. france is under a state of emergency for the entire nation. the first time that's happened since world war ii. its borders closed also a first. francois hollande vowing to lead a ruthless fight against the perpetrators. president obama spoke by phone to hollande to offer the condolences of the american people. he gave his unwavering support for the people of france, our oldest ally and friend and reaffirm the offer of any necessary support to the french investigation. also, very important. to those who have loved one in paris at the moment, a few different ways to get in touch. facebook has been promoting its
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new feature which existed before. now at the top of your page where people can check in as safe. a lot of people i know are doing that on my facebook page. friends of friends. you can check there. also, the department of state has put out this notice. those concerned about a u.s. citizen in paris can call 1-888-407-4747 in the u.s. or 202-501-4444 overseas for assistance and follow at travel governor governor for twitter. 888-407-4747 if you're concerned about a loved one in paris. american authorities, of course, the embassy coordinating an effort to identify and mick shaur americans there are accounting for a lot of nervous, nervous folks out there right now. joining me by knn, malcolm nance. a counterintelligence expert. someone i always go to when i'm interested in what is going on at the bleeding edge, as it
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were, of al qaeda, isis and other groups. malcolm, what does it say, let's start with this fact that we appearo know. seven of the eight assailants will suicide bomb vests. that in and of itself tells us something, doesn't it? >> well, it tells us quite a bit. despite the fact that now is not a really good time to lay blame and waiting for groups to come out and make their claims, you know, the -- one of two groups carries out this type of multidimensional due side attack. that's one group we know very well. al qaeda. the other group which has almost exclusively manned just about all of their fighters with suicide belts is isis. awe although the "charlie hebdo" attacks were carried out, there's no reason to believe that isis does not have this capacity in france. they had hundreds of fighters and they appeared to want to
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make sh attack, whoever the ultimate perpetrators were, the 9/11 of france. that's where we are. >> there is, we should note there's some degree of effort, engineering, if you will that goes into the construction of a suicide explosive vest. i mean, unlike in 1847 you could acquire through the black market, you can walk into the offices of a small magazine and start shooting people. there is another level we're dealing with here of people that have to have know how and expertise, some kind of training and the means to con trukt something like this. right? >> absolutely. this is not something that's just -- we call it an improvised explosive device but there's nothing improvised about it when it comes to a working form. you can mix up certain chemicals in your own bathtub so to speak using a myriad of publicly
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available box. most likely -- these explosives to be stable and be man portable, to be detonated on command were carried out by professionals. these are professionals who not only received training in this but handled them before in such a way that they knew with great confidence during the middle of a major firefight that these devices would explode. that takes absolute professionalism. we're going to find out here, certainly because one of the attackers was killed. but more than likely he had the bomb belt that didn't go off. that gave us a lot of information about this cell. >> there's also the fact, of course, that you have a variety of locations, they happen in quick succession. one of the locations chosen is one in which the french president is present. although the explosion happened outside the stadium. another, a huge concert venue. i mean, what kind of lead time or planning are we talking
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about? what kind of number of people for in dined f kind of operation? >> well, it's going to be very -- we saw that "charlie hebdo" occurred in january. taking ten months after an attack like that and perhaps being inspired by the success of that, this cell would have to first acquire weapons on the black market. not just any kind of weapon. these are fully automatic military grade weapons which clearly they were carrying 240 or more round of ammunition per person. there's no way that they could go on a massacre of this capacity without that. >> but on the other hand, it's a question of counterintelligence. they do not want to be detected. they're going to limit their use of electronic communications and do everything together face to face. we saw in the 9/11 attacks and many al qaeda attacks, this hallmark of being absolutely
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committed to the o'mer muir at that. where you all dais a group. it's classic. >> there is, of course, the question of -- we don't know yet who did this and where they came from. but one thing that does -- my instinct saysnd aur an expert on this. it seems unlikely that none of these people trained didn't leave france. at some point some members of this cell trained somewhere outside france to pull off something like this. does that sound right to you? >> that does scan. ironical ironically, i'm preparing to finish a book called the isis battle manual which is literally how they fight and how they train people to fight. and this level of brutality, you can trap a new person in a cell to detonate a suicide belt like the to explosions which may
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explain why there were so few casualties there. but professional hits, the run and gun where you're in a vehicle and you go through and just start shooting people, it takes a measure of commitment. you can't build up that in a person. this is one someone who has combat experience and has murdered people before or has been engaged in murderous activities for and would view this on the highest honor in an attack in a place like france. but let meet make one quick note, chris. they want to an area north of the area but not town to the places heavily protected, a place like the louvre. these people did their intelligence work and they went where security and security response would have to shift in from the west and they would be completely finished with their
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attack. but they carried out their suicide hostage barricade in such a manner that they knew they had maximum coverage at that point and knew when they ended their lives, the entire world would be watching. >> malcolm, i find talking to you about these matters, no matter how horrifying, he had fieg. appreciate it. >> thank you. it has been a long and terrible, terrible day in france. as the whole world looks on in mourning. our coverage of the terror attacks in paris continues. first, soccer friends at the stadium heard explosions from outside the stadium while the game was going on. as fans were being evacuated, they broke into the french national anthem. ♪ ♪
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they will be of great assistance to you if that's something you want to check in on. joining me now on the phone, msnbc terror analyst, director middle east and north africa research and analysis. lathe, malcolm nance was talking about some of the characteristics of this attack. how it leads him to conclude about the capacity, if nothing else of the folks that carried this off. what's your sense? >> look, i mean, this was a highly coordinated attack from a lot of the jihadi videos i watch on a daily basis and the military manuals i read every day, this is essentially a copy of isis military manual in their military approach and style, attack style. they call those guys -- this is based on the presumption that the guys were fired -- those
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guys are very highly trained individuals. very skilled. what they do is essentially once they run out of ammo, they detonate their explosives vest which most of what isis fighters do. so we have to, though, acknowledge that there has been some deep planning that went into these kind of attacks that took place, everything from location to the time of the attack and probably even symbolically the presence of president hollande at the stadium. of course, the intelligence is still unfolding and i'm sure authorities in france and probably in the united states are trying to trace every single lead on this. so a lot of information is still unfolding. we don't have everything. >> in terms of an attack of this nature, isis has been using attacks like this in territory
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in which it's engaged in military fights, a sort of combination of the tactics of terrorism we see in urban areas or outside of areas they control with more traditional military tactics. pulling something like this off in an area they don't control, like for instance in beirut where they murdered 43 people with a bomb, that takes a lot more doing and is a lot more difficult and requires a level of coordination that depend on local recruits or sending people in? i mean, what's your sense? >> look, i think there some communication must be established between the attackers, whether seminars or each other from childhood. but the mere fact that this took place in a city like paris, this is essentially urban warfare. a lot of this military
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methodology is featured regularly in isis videos and other radical group videos regularly. so they could have chosen some sort of large garage or parking lot to train on, conducting such attacks before they actually carried them out. >> can you walk us through a little bit the sort of the question of credit claiming. we have seen examples in which credit has been ee yoen yusly claimed by groups, taking credit for attacks they didn't pull off. recently the huge bombing of of the peace march in turkey as of yet, nobody has stepped forward to say that was them. what can we expect about claims of credit and what does that amount to? >> so i think it's too early for any group to claim credit just yet. although, i want a caveat that
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during local attacks in syria or iraq, isis is very quick to place credit in short statements for the attacks, sometimes attached with images. such complicated nuance attack that is indeed a group is standing behind it or wants to claim credit for it, erroneously or not, they have to put out a much larger statement accompanied with a lot of details that aim at showing the flaws of the security flaws in such a country like france. so when we look back at al qaeda and failed attack to down and airliner over detroit, it took them a while. but they put out a pretty heavy manifesto detailing with the plot similarly with the explosive packages that they attempted to send overseas.
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spe tutt hey put out a massive manifesto to carry out the attack and how much the operation cost. they have to wait a little bit and we should expect more in the next few days. >> lathe, thank you very much. it's 6:47 as you see there local time in paris. the city just waking up after one of the worst days in its history certainly in the last 60 years or so. a horrible day in paris. a death toll that's about 120 as of now. expected to climb. hospitals filled with the injured across 17 different hospitals that are ready to accept the injured in paris after the worst day of terror in paris. the worst terror attack since 9/11 in the west. folks there making sense of it all as people still try to track down their loved ones and account for them. that right now i imagine consuming much of the city of
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paris this morning. and much of the folks there beginning to think about what comes next. france finding itself at a crossroads. a second terror attack in just ten months. the president francois hollande, 20% approval rating facing regional elections this winter. the cross current of a massive and horrible war in the middle east not far from europe pushing refugees across the continent, europe in the midst of a conversation with itself about its destiny and future as a multicultural pluralistic bastion of -- the eu under strain. all of this the backdrop murder on the streets of paris, murder in a concert hall, murder outside the stadium for a friendly match being played with paris in france. that's the scene this morning as france emerges from a long night. we'll be back with more coverage after this. can a business have a mind?
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as morning comes to paris, here with me cal perry from the msnbc discover desk and susan cork. she just returned from france. cal, let me start with you. what information can we expect to learn in the coming hours as a new day dawns in france and officials begin to sift through the wreckage of what happened? >> i think there's tough hours to come. first and foremost, obviously the investigation. the good news for investigators, one of those explosive belts by one of those attackers wasn't exploded. they should be able to trace back with relative ease where that came from. the tough hours ahead, chris, remember, this was a rock concert in a very hip part of
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paris. so as we find out who was killed in this attack, i think the ages of those who lost their lives is going to really hit home, not just in paris but around the world. the other thing and i think you've said it perfectly. the refugee situation in europe is a once in a generation crisis. people are already saying some very hostile things on social media about refugees. as you pointed out, these are people who risked their lives to get away from exactly this kind of violence. it's important that we keep an eye on that in the coming days and weeks as well. >> susan, one of the things i'm thinking about, the first thing i'm thinking about now is that there are hundreds of people, maybe thousands in the extended networks of the folks that were killed or injured tonight, and they are experiencing the anguish of finding out the horrible thing you hope never to find out. there's also the broader fabric
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of france and there's a community in paris of muslim france that is quite marginalized and integrated in other ways that is, i have to imagine, both in anguish and grief because some of their own are among dead and they are french and also what nuk willing at this moment about what is going to come in the wake of this. >> yeah. i'm very worried. i would urge that we all keep the sense of solidarity and wanting to reach out and for france to be approaching this in an inclusive way, remembering, as you said, that many of the victims are probably muslims and from immigrant communities as well. they are french. even though they have felt sometimes outside of the french identity, there should also be an attempt to bring them into the fold because a few
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terrorists did unspeakable horrific acts today but in the long-term for france to get back on track to be a peaceful multiethnic society where rights are protected, everybody needs to feel part of that society. so i hope that this doesn't create a clash of civilizations and a sense of fear of the other. because that would be the real tragedy. >> susan cork, who is the director of countering anti-semitism and extremism and our own cal perry. thank you both very much. you will recall that in the wake of the "charlie hebdo" attacks in january, there was that famous unity march. it drew leaders from across the word. it did not draw the far right national front. that's because they were excluded from the march by the organizers. the other major party in france. the far right party has gained
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electoral strength. she's suspending campaigning but polling ahead in the regional elections. this is a party that's founded in french nationalism. many would say white supremacy towards immigrants and muslims. all of that knocks on the door as france wakes up this morning. opportunity is everything you make of it. this winter, take advantage of our season's best offers on the latest generation of cadillacs. the 2016 cadillac ats. get this low-mileage lease from around $269 per month, or purchase with 0% apr financing. amerivest selects the funds and manages your portfolio. is it run by robots? no no, you can talk to a person anytime. 'cause i don't trust robots.
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