tv Andrea Mitchell Reports MSNBC November 16, 2015 9:00am-10:01am PST
we are back as we have just crossed the noon hour here on the east coast. before we switch over the coverage to nbc's andrea mitchell we wanted to let you know where we stand. first of all, the death toll, 129 people. over 500 people wounded. of that number, 99 individuals are listed as critical in paris. this was the day as we're about to hear that france in many ways struck back and widened their web. nbc's lester holt is part of our team in paris. obviously there to anchor "nbc nightly news" tonight. lester, france launched these historic raids today, really fanning out, along with the air strikes overseas, part of their response to what their president has called war. >> he's called it war and this
is certainly the visualization of war when you have war planes dropping bombs on hard targets. the raqqa, which of course is the home of the islamic state, but it comes and is followed by president hollande noting that these attacks, not only are their fingerprints linked back to syria but also to belgium and then of course carried out here in france, which shows the nature of this is not necessarily all hard targets. bombing would not have taken out the targets here, the terrorists that committed the attacks here on friday. it just shows what a complicated nature this all is. the bombings certainly showing a forceful resolve to strike back against isil but not necessarily getting at the root of the issue that struck here on friday. >> lester holt at the place de la republique, one of the public gathering places in paris. that's where we will see you from later tonight.
we also want to bring in christopher dickey, a long-time veteran journalist first with "newsweek," these days with daily beast, an american who has been living and working in paris for some time. christopher, we heard the french president say this is war. it's been interesting to see those words kind of filter around the world, filter through america. americans get to try on what they think that means. do you believe this is the world's next war? >> well, i think that is the direction we are headed in, for sure. but there are certain things you would expect that haven't happened. for instance, you would think that france would be moving to invoke article 5 of the north atlantic treaty to get nato directly involved. there hasn't been any move in that direction even though the rhetoric speaks to the idea of common defense, that an attack on one is an attack on all. i think the reason for that is largely because the americans don't want to go in that
direction. for that matter, the turks don't, either. i think this is a real problem. i think france is in an odd position. it's part of the coalition that has been fighting against isis now for some time, but the coalition doesn't seem to be giving it the full backing it needs to carry out the kind of ruthless retaliation the french people want and that president hollande wants at this point. >> france is in this horrible spot, 129 dead, as we said, over 350 wounded. of that list, 99 critical. a president who has given this public war declaration, very emotional presentation in front of parliament today. do you think french society is surprised at the speed and the kind of width of these raids today, chris, these arrests and all the doors that got knocked on and blown down across the
country? >> well, we have seen these kinds of arrests in the past, sort of a round up the usual suspects thing. in this case, there are lots of people who are in the police files who are known to be islamists and now we are discovering that some of the people who blew themselves up the other night were already in the police files, too, but they lost track of them or didn't know that they were going to do this kind of thing. so obviously, they want to round up as many people as possible. they want to question them as much as possible and they want to get as much information as quickly as possible. among other things, to make sure that there's not going to be a second strike or a third, for that matter. all of that's true. i think people are happy to see this kind of resolve militarily being exercised in syria, but they are also asking what's next. if there's one good thing that's coming out of this, it's that as we discover more about the victims, what we're discovering is a lot of them were completely assimilated muslims, people who were living like every other
french person, and we are also discovering that a lot of the heroes of that night of terror, the people who hid other people, the people who stopped suicide bombers at the stadium, these people, what were their names? their names were samir. they were very probably muslims as well. certainly they were from immigrant backgrounds. that's the kind of thing that builds solidarity in this country. i think that certainly is one good thing that's coming out of this. >> chris dickey, you are so right. thank you. one more question to lester holt about the mood of the place. it was midnight your time, kind of afternoon sunday in the united states, we saw that terrifying video of a false alarm, of a kind of public panic apparently caused by someone setting off firecrackers. you wouldn't blame anyone they were mistaken for gunfire. it seemed very nervous on sunday
during the day there but coming out in public, especially late at night, is kind of an act of cohesion there. it seems like it has a calming effect for people to be with one another outdoors. >> well, my baseline for what is normal in paris is a little skewed. i have been to this city many times, three times in the last ten months, two of those for terror attacks. i have to remind myself what's normal. sunday, though, was anything but. many of the shops and stores even on sunday that would normally be open, were closed. people were tentatively walking through this square. of course, this is a very emotional place. but people were trying to put on that sense of resolve and de defiance and we're going to stand in the face of terrorism. then firecrackers, whatever it is, the ripple of panic was breathtaking how it swept through the neighborhood here for several blocks. we were just finishing an
interview and suddenly the police came out with guns and running in all directions. it showed how thin really the veneer of stoicism is. today, very different. the shops are opening again. there were some people although it's quite chilly here today at the outdoor cafes, the commerce seemed to be moving along and people seemed to be putting one foot in front of the other. but with obviously an eye toward the headlines, knowing there may be another, an eighth person still being sought, the tentacles of this reaching into nearby belgium and ultimately perhaps into syria. so people are still sleeping with eyes wide open here, wondering when the next shoe will drop. very eerie feeling, not unlike what we saw back here last january, would there be follow-on attacks, what's going to happen next. >> lester holt, we will see you from there tonight. thanks. lester mentioned that question about when the next shoe would drop. a lot of americans have that
question here domestically as well. we are coming up on eight minutes into the noon hour. that means we are throwing our coverage over to nbc's andrea mitchell, who will look, among other things, at all things domestic, the domestic threat from this. >> absolutely. thanks so much, brian. earlier as you heard, the president spoke at the g-20 conference in turkey about the attacks in paris and the inspiration behind them. >> these are killers. with fantasies of glory who are very savvy when it comes to social media and are able to infiltrate the minds of not just iraqis or syrians but disaffected individuals around the world. and when they activate those individuals, those individuals can do a lot of damage. >> so what is the threat to the homeland? senator dianne feinstein from
california joins me now, ranking democrat on the intelligence committee and an expert on all of this. senator, thank you very much. we have been talking about the president's strategy. he reiterated his strategy today. you have said before that 50 special forces is not enough. what would it take to defeat isis? >> well, let me begin by saying this. i have never been more concerned. i read the intelligence faithfully. isil is not contained. isil is expanding. they just put out a video saying it is their intent to attack this country. i think we have to be prepared. i think hopefully france will go for a chapter 5 which will bring nato into it. hopefully we will work with our allies to put together the kind of coalitions and attack plans in more than one place at a given time. there's only one way we are
going to diminish them and that is by taking them out, because they are growing. they are in more than a dozen countries now. they are sophisticated. they have apps to communicate on that cannot be pierced even with a court order. so they have a kind of secret way of being able to conduct operations and operational planning. so we should take this very, very seriously. >> well, taking your point, don't we need more than 50 special forces? don't we need as many as two brigades? former ambassador jim jeffrey has been saying how many troops on the ground do we need? >> i'm not a military expert. i can't tell you how many troops on the ground we need. but we certainly need more than 50 special ops and we need the ability to really make a difference on the ground. we need to be able to work with
russia and iran, if they will work with us, in the syria area. we need to be able to get a political solution to assad so that all of everyone's attention can be directed to isil. look, isil took down a major aircraft, 224 people. it had a major attack in beirut, 40 people killed. it had a major attack in fresno, numbers killed and wounded. this is just in the last month. they are on the march. it is important to recognize this and prepare to deal with it with action. and candidly, i don't think bombing runs alone, we have done about 8,000 now, can really make a difference. so we're going to have to look at some new teams -- new themes and i think we will have to listen very carefully to our military people and ask for the kind of precise military
strategy and tactics that might be able to really contain isil and defeat it. >> we have been told since friday night and paris was under siege at the time that there is no credible threat to the homeland. can we be confident in that given that we didn't see paris coming? >> no. i don't think we can be credible with that. director comey of the fbi reported to us just this past summer that there's an investigation, i think it's widely known, in virtually every fbi office. there's a video now saying that they are authorizing attacks in our country. so i think they are on a march. i think we have to recognize this. i think we have to work to see that we have a broken passport system. we've got 45 million stolen passports floating around.
we've got international travel documents floating around. we have a visa waiver program that allows somebody if they come back from syria to france to come into this country. all of these things have to be explored and changed. it has to be done quickly. >> the cia director john brennan acknowledged today that in the aftermath of paris, both france and the united states has to see whether there are significant gaps. are these the kind of gaps you're concerned about? >> well, i can't -- i don't know what he was referring to. i do know that everybody is working very hard. both the american intelligence agencies as well as the french and the british and others. so you know, "charlie hebdo" was a case in point. i don't think anybody went to sleep after "charlie hebdo." the point i'm trying to make is that it's so easy for them to communicate, give operational
orders. they have money, they can buy the arms, they can buy the bombs, and carry out these efforts. so you know, three big attacks in a month cannot be taken loosely. they have to be taken very seriously and we need to do everything we can to see that our borders are as tight as they possibly can be. >> the fbi director james comey has been warning about end-to-end encryption, that there are dark sites that we can't, even with a court order, we can't look at. what is your message to silicon valley and should there be a crisis meeting now with those internet companies? >> i have actually gone to silicon valley. i have met with the chief counsels of most of the big companies. i have asked for help. i haven't gotten any help. i think that silicon valley has to take a look at their
products, because if you create a product that allows evil monsters to communicate in this way, to behead children, to strike innocents, whether it's at a game in a stadium in a small restaurant in paris, take down an airliner, that's a big problem. so we need high tech's help in securing an internet that even with a court order, you can't get to what they're saying. that's a big problem. >> dianne feinstein, we should reiterate, is the senator from california. you were speaking to your own constituents. i really appreciate your coming on today. thank you. joining me now, chuck todd, nbc news political director, moderator of "meet the press," host of "mtp daily," bbc correspondent kim gavas, author of "the secretary" and justice correspondent pete williams.
well, pete, and chuck, first to the two of you, because jim comey as pete has been reporting has been warning and warning about this encryption problem and chuck, dianne feinstein first made issue of these warnings to you on "meet the press" a week ago sunday. she is not pulling her punches today. >> she is not and put her comments together with john brennan and we are getting a picture of perhaps what the intelligence community is now, i don't want to read between the lines too much, but is this sort of a public sounding of alarm to lawmakers, to the white house, to other people to say hey, this is a concern we should be worried about it as a concern and we need to surface it as something to tackle right now. i was also struck by, she was this way with me last week, as you noted, i was also struck by you want to call it a hawkish tone, but this is obviously she is, you could argue, the leading
democratic foreign policy voice or national security voice in the united states senate right now, and if she is starting to say hey, there needs to be a strategy shift, you want to call it change or however you want to call it, she wants to see a ramping up. she's making an argument this the air strikes aren't working. that's a significant break politically for the president. >> just to point this out before we bring pete into the conversation and kim, this is exactly in contradiction to what the president said an hour or so ago. >> that's right. where he said he was, you know, he took on all his critics, i'm not surprised when he takes on his critics. i was surprised he did it in that forum so close to where we were. there's a lot of raw emotions out there. he's probably experienced his own raw emotions. i'm surprised he didn't try to take a different tone, almost brush aside or even throw a bone to some critics and say look, we are looking at everything. we are scrubbing everything right now. we think we have the right
strategy but we are looking around and saying okay, what can we do better here or there. there wasn't even a lot of that. a little bit of that, but it was more defiance than anything else. >> and pete, on friday night as we were covering this in real time, the intelligence community were all saying they did not, that they accepted the french president hollande's conclusion that this was isis based on evidence that they were getting from the crime scenes, but they did not acknowledge that this was not what u.s. intelligence had predicted. no one had said in the past that isis could act in a coordinated way externally, lone wolves, yes, inspirationally, yes, but not these kinds of cells. >> that's right. two kinds of threats from isis. one is reaching out to people here, just saying go kill somebody, and the kind of coordinated thing where you have to actually have a discussion among people and plan things in advance. in terms of encryption, there's been a lot of talk about this,
especially from the new york officials. but i just talked to a senior u.s. intelligence official here who says there is no actual confirmation yet that the plotters in paris actually used these going dark techniques to communicate with each other. however, one senior official says he would be shocked if they didn't. even if it turns out that the plotters didn't use it in paris and we just don't know that yet, it still remains a big subject of concern here, because of isis' known cases, where isis has used it to communicate with people in the u.s. i went back and checked the records here. the fbi director has been publicly warning about this, the head of the national counterterrorism center, too, since last may. that's how long they have been surrounding the alarm about this. it's two things. it's the fact that you can send these messages that are encrypted, that even if the government suspects you are a terrorist and goes to court to get a court order, the company cannot unscramble it.
nobody can read it except the person who sends it and the person who receives it. that's a big concern. now, secondly, we have seen discussion of the fact that one of the paris suspects had a play station console and the belgian interior minister had said before the paris attacks that they were growingly concerned about that, that it's a way for people to go on to these gaming consoles, get an internet arranged setup of people to play a game, and then either voice or text each other in a way that's difficult, not encrypted, but difficult for the government to monitor. so the going dark thing has a lot of different aspects. >> boy, indeed it does. kim, you are experienced in covering the state department, covering foreign policy and coming from the region, beirut, your hometown is where isis struck just a week ago. >> yes. indeed. i know there's been a lot of reactions from the region saying why did beirut not get as much coverage as paris, our lives, do
our lives matter less than the lives of people in paris. i think that we are more used to seeing violence, unfortunately, in countries like mine. i think it is also more touching for more people because of paris being the city of light and also because for a lot of people from the middle east, countries like france, like the u.s., are sanctuaries for people who are trying to flee. that's what we're seeing, of course, with the refugees. so i think that what we need to think about now is that this isn't the west versus the rest. it is all of us, people from my country, people from syria, people from afghanistan, people from the rest of the world, against -- and the west, against those few thousands, unfortunately, who can wield violence and brutality with such efficiency. >> and chuck, finally, the domestic political considerations we're seeing in indiana and elsewhere, governors saying they will no longer accept syrian refugees even
though there's been no direct connection on any refugees who have come here and they have been limited in number compared to europe, of course. >> it's probably going to grow. i think just in the last ten minutes, add massachusetts to the list. so far, it's been states with republican governors. we haven't seen one, there's a democratic candidate for governor down in louisiana who called for a pause in accepting syrian refugees so there's perhaps it becomes a bipartisan call. so far, that's the pattern we're seeing. i have seen this in the past. i won't be surprised, this is sort of there is this little bit of panic out of there, little bit of fear, and this probably will spread in the short term but the question is does it make it to capitol hill. ben carson, presidential candidate, has sent a letter to paul ryan saying figure out a way to prevent the acceptance of syrian refugees, at least temporarily. i have a feeling this is how the
initial political fight will take place, sort of a response to what we are seeing in paris. not as much, this probably will get more headlines and what won't is all the -- the larger debate about what we should be doing. >> chuck todd and kim ghattas, thanks so much. thanks to all of you. more ahead from paris and the hunt for suspects in brussels in belgium. first, president hollande leading the french parliament today, honoring the victims of friday's attack, singing la marsellaise.
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nbc's keir simmons is live for us in brussels, belgium. that is where the investigation is trying to find the roots of this plot. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. they're trying to find a man called salah abdeslam who fled, it is reported, it is believed, from paris, was stopped at the border of belgium and france, then released again on friday, then we don't know where he went from there. there is suspicion he is here in this suburb of brussels where he comes from. now, it looks as if the police here are just hauling through anyone they can find, frankly. they have arrested seven people, five have been released, two have been charged. one of those released was salah abdeslam's brother.
i want to read a statement he has just made in the last few hours. he says about his brother, salah abdeslam, we don't know where they are. they have gone. we are not going to ask them their schedule. we don't know where they are now. we don't know if he wants to dare come out to the justice. he says he grew up and studied here, then he goes on to talk about his family and says we are an open family, we never had a problem with justice, despite the tragedy my parents are shocked. they don't realize yet what has happened. meanwhile, we have seen the police close down a street not far from here. that family live in the square i'm standing in, not far from here a whole street was cordoned off. police commandoes went from house to house. there were snipers on the roof. witnesses talked about hearing shots fired. but at the end of all that, the police appeared not to have gained anything. it appears to have been a raid based on information clearly that didn't turn up whatever it is they were looking for. so it is a very difficult and
tense time here as the police continue to try to find whoever might have been connected to these attacks. >> keir, if you know, there was that eighth conspirator, at least one more person, could have been more, possibly driving the getaway car that was stopped actually by french authorities and then let go. may well have crossed over the border to belgium. >> reporter: yeah, that's right. that's salah abdeslam, the man i was just talking about, and he may be here. he may well have moved on from here because there are a lot of police here, a lot of journalists. by the way, this is all causing real questions to be asked about whether this has really become a hotbed of jihadism in this suburb of brussels in this small country where more people per capita have traveled from belgium to syria and iraq to fight with extremists than any other european country. people are asking why that is the case. we have been talking to people
who have been telling us that they don't understand it, that they think that what is happening is that some young people here are being brainwashed. others point to the level of poverty in this area. but many people are questioning whether this has been allowed to grow in this suburb, whether the authorities here have done enough and the trouble for europe, of course, is that every government is responsible not just for its own people's safety but other countries' safety because when we journeyed, for example, yesterday from france to here in belgium, we went through that border and there was heightened security, there were highly armed police but we weren't stopped. our passports weren't checked. >> which is the whole point of the european union, those open borders, which is something they now feel they may have to address. keir, thanks so much. up next, what will it take to truly defeat isis? the president says the goal is to degrade and ultimately defeat
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in the aftermath of paris as i listened to those who suggest something else needs to be done, typically the things they suggest need to be done are things we are already doing. the one exception is that there have been a few who suggested that we should put large numbers of u.s. troops on the ground and keep in mind that we have the finest military in the world and we have the finest military minds in the world, and i have been meeting with them intensively for years now discussing these various
options, and it is not just my view, but the view of my closest military and civilian advisors that that would be a mistake. >> joining me now is msnbc military analyst and retired four-star general barry mccaffrey and am bassador chris hill, former assistant secretary of state. general, the president said he's going to intensify the current strategy but continue the current strategy. he is not considering more ground forces. he's not considering anything beyond training and equipping the iraqis, standing up syrians which so far has failed, and air strikes. is that enough to defeat isis? >> i thought it was a very disappointing statement by the president, very defensive. he should have acknowledged that things have changed. his own rhetoric, the jayvee team, they're contained, obviously that's not the case. we have a million refugees headed for europe. we have some now probable global
operation by isis under way and it requires rethinking the strategy. by the way, the false argument is that people are arguing for 150,000 troops back in iraq. that's nonsense. but what isn't nonsense is the notion that we need to relook the intelligence system. isis has gone dark now. we need cooperation out of silicon valley, that wonderful senator feinstein said. snowden did us incredible damage. we probably need to have better, more muscular rules of engagement on both u.s. air power and special operations with direct action against isis where we find them in both syria and iraq. so the president's got to open up his mind here and rethink the challenge. >> just to follow up on that, more than 50 special forces, when you say more muscular direct action. >> well, i thought it was utter
nonsense for a white house political spokesman to be discussing no more than 50 special ops would be in syria. the white house is supposed to outline political goals and approved military objectives, not design jsoc's tactics on the ground. probably the requirement on direct action would be put 3,000 or 4,000 people into jordan and saudi arabia and iraq and turkey and then conduct very direct lethal operations against isis on the ground. they are capable of doing that. there will be casualties. these are some of the most courageous, determined people on the face of the earth. they need to be directed to take strong action against isis and stop this nonsense of micromanaging u.s. air power and special ops. >> chris hill, does there seem to be a disconnect between the president's rhetoric today and
in fact, last week, and the reality of what's happened in paris? >> well, i think paris is obviously a new reality and it is a little disappointing, i agree that the president somehow wants to just say we've got a strategy, no idea that's come forward is anything that we aren't already implementing. i think it's important, though, for the white house to understand a couple things. one is that there are kind of two civil wars here. one is what we are trying to deal with on the question of assad's succession and whether we can find a way forward with the russians and others. those are the vienna talks, aimed at some kind of peace strategy. the other, though, is dealing with isis which has clearly got a global reach as opposed to all these other sunni groups in syria, and there i think we need a much more robust more winning strategy. i would start with some diplomacy. how can we allow the saudis to
get away with the idea they are not going to be engaged there, they are going to be engaged in yemen? saudi arabia is part of the inspiration for a lot of this kind of radicalism. they need to be involved and engaged directly. there are many sunni arabs who absolutely abhor the tactics of isis but at the end of the day, they say but at least they're doing something about the shia. the shia encroachment into our sunni arab lands. i think we really need to have a very robust diplomatic strategy to support a war winning strategy with respect to isis. >> very briefly, could i ask you how nato would do in increased operations if france does request this with russia? how does that work together? >> well, obviously there are issues of deconfliction we have talked about over the last few weeks. i think first of all, nato, if france is going to be at war and if we agree with the proposition that france is at war, it seems to me that nato has to convene
some kind of article 5 declaration in the way that they did for us in 9/11. i think as an expression of solidarity to nato member france, i think we need to do that. but as for actual operations, i will leave that to the military planners. but i don't think we need onesies and twosies from people. we need a large strategy. that may involve a large number of british and u.s. air power and very small measures of others. i think we need some kind of way forward with nato. i think it's appropriate that nato have a stake in the game. >> barry mccaffrey, general, thank you. ambassador chris hill, thank you. right now, a live look at the eiffel tower lit up in the colors of the french flag. it has been relit after a 48-hour shutdown. the 116-year-old international symbol of paris is reopening to visitors monday afternoon.
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the moment of silence led by president hollande in france today. nbc's erica hill is live for us in paris with more on how the people in paris, the people, the residents, the tourists, are all trying to move forward after this horrific attack. you have been talking to a lot of people there about the resilience of the french. >> reporter: yeah. andrea, resill yaiance is the r word. just over my right shoulder, there's a memorial that's been growing. there was a barricade here saturday into sunday when we first got here. that memorial really started to grow on sunday. it's taken over the entire
sidewalk. some imams came by earlier, laid a wreath there. we are seeing so many memorials spring up around the city. there has been so much talk about the place de la republique. so many people have assembled here. last night, they were singing, there were huge crowds of people chanting, love not hate, we are not afraid, solidarity, singing la marsellaise. we saw all of that last night and saw the resilience. this morning we went to see what it was like for people going back to work. as you can imagine, the mood itself far more somber. here's what one woman had to say. >> it is very, very important because we have to be strong and to show that we're still there and there is nothing that can stop us. >> reporter: she was really shaken. you could see it in her eyes.
all of the people we spoke to said we're here, this is what we have to do, we have to go to work but we can't stop thinking about what happened. couple of people said they weren't sure what they were going to find at work, that made them a little nervous. there was one older gentleman who said look, this is our new reality. we are at war. this is a war. it was interesting to hear president hollande later in the day echo those same sentiments when he was addressing the joint session. there is this sense of freedom and the importance of the liberties the french hold so dear and the resilience but also the reality, especially on day three, monday you go back to work, things really start to sink in. this is the last day of the three days of national mourning. i think people are also starting to realize that they are having to figure out what their new reality is while still holding on to the things that are so important to them. >> erica hill, thanks for all of your reporting from over there on these recent days. thank you. coming up here, much more ahead from paris and from the
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brian williams here with you in new york. after several nights in the dark during a national period of mourning, this is the sight tonight in paris. the eiffel tower in the french tricolor, where at the makeshift memorials, flowers and candles continue to arrive. we wanted to just get you updated at the top of the hour here and let's begin with thomas roberts at the place de la republique in paris which has become such a focal point and center gathering point. thomas? >> reporter: it really has continued to be a gathering point for people that want to come out and pay their respects but also show their pride in what france is going through now, a country in mourning. it was earlier today that as a nation and also globally, many people stopped to mark that moment of silence with french president hollande but as you can see right there, the eiffel tower being