tv Hardball With Chris Matthews MSNBC November 18, 2015 11:00pm-12:01am PST
let's play hardball. good . good evening. i'm chris matthews in washington with breaking news of a brand new isis problem began da video threatening times square. the highly produced online video shows a suicide bomber donning a bomb vest. it shows images of times square in new york city. those images of new york aren't new. they were originally published in april. new york police say the video reaffirms the message that new york city remains a top terror target. the nypd says it sees no current or specific threat to the city as yet. the video comes just days after another isis video threatened washington, d.c. and it comes the same day as the dramatic police raid. give us a sense of how seriously the nypd are looking at the propaganda threat.
>> reporter: they say they are always on high alert here in the city and have been on high alert since 9/11. times square where you see a number of heavily armed officers. these officers around the city have radiation detectors on their hips. they are there to detect change in radiation in case a dirty bomb is out there. they have hundreds of counter terrorism throughout the city. they say it is the most protected city in the world and they are standing by that. times square especially you saw in that isis propaganda video an image of gap in herald square. in 2010 there was an attempted bomb set off by a man in a car. it was stopped. a man saw smoke coming out of the car. they were able to work outsituation and not have anyone harmed.
they are always prepared for something like this to happen in the city. there is a number of suspicious package alerts on a weekly basis. while this video is frightening and coming on the heels of the paris attack they want to stress that there is nothing new in this video. the images in the video are not new. the images of times square and of new york city are old. there is no indication that there is any imminent threat for new york. >> it strikes us in washington after threatening this city in the last isis threatening note they change the destination as if they weren't getting enough excitement by threatening the nation's capitol. >> reporter: i think they are trying to do a stoke fear. i think we saw in paris they hit
areas that were soft targets that did not have a heavy police presence. in paris, most of paris is a very touristy area. the area isis hit there is an area frequented by french people only. it is not what is considered a heavily, heavy target. new york city is pretty much a prime target all of it. what i would be thinking along the lines of isis is that they would be trying to -- are they trying to use new york city or washington to -- maybe a softer target in the middle of the country. i don't know this. but it's certainly what is -- there is chatter among experts. when you talk about how worried they are about isis in this country. >> do you get a sense from the people around you, is the crowd pulling back from the square or not? >> reporter: there are hundreds of thousands if not millions o
people that walk through every day. they are used to this. the tourists are taking pictures. it is still times square. they're still enjoying themselves. people are still coming to and from work. there is no indication that anybody is on any higher alert. the city has been expecting and waiting for something to happen hoping that it doesn't happen since 9/11. they are used to a heavy police presence especially after paris. they are used to seeing officers with heavy artillery. they are used to seeing the show of force of the nypd officers and cars streaming down the street. life is going on as usual at least for now. >> thanks so much. new york mayor bill de blasio will be on the show tomorrow night. i am joined by christopher dickey, author of "securing the city". christopher, thank you for joining us. you have both perspectives tonight, new york and paris. put them together the way the
police in both cities have handled this. >> i think the thing we learn from paris is how vulnerable a city can be even when well protected. i heard the person on before talking about the hercules teams in new york city. there are 35,000 police in new york city. that ought to make you safe, but if terrorists are going to hit sidewalk cafes, night clubs the way they did here, it's very hard to protect those places. the only way to do it is through really superb intelligence collection because you can't put cops everywhere. >> tell me about the organization that led to the heart in paris on friday. we will get to police raids last night in a moment. tell us about the role of mr. abaaoud. >> there are real master minds putting together a global terror campaign for isis.
abdelhamid abaaoud is a guy that was a go between. he had a lot of connections in brussels that were useful to size. he had gone back and forth to syria. they use the connections in order to organize this operation here. but he was also kind of a poster boy for isis. they like to put these guys up and say this guy is a hero we are going to make a star out of him. that argues against him being the master mind. they are not going to waste a master mind as a poster boy because this guy is going to get killed soon. >> sophisticated stuff. thank you very much. a dramatic scene north of paris as french police carried out a spectacular assault on terrorists holed up in an apartment. french authorities were hunting for the ringleader of last week's attack. they engaged in a fierce gunfight with a well armed isis terror cell. [ gunshots ]
two people were killed in that including a woman who blew herself up in that raid. eight people were arrested. the paris prosecutor say police encountered major resistance. >> translator: tonight five police from the raid were wounded. it was a very difficult assault. the bullet proof apartment resisted and this allowed the terrorists to prepare their retaliation and interrupt the shooting went on for about an hour. >> looks like they got there to stop what they were preparing to offer to bring about another terrorist attack. >> reporter: that's what they are saying, chris. that is what they think they did. just to let you know i'm standing in front of a memorial here next to the bataclan concert hall.
people are breathing a sigh of relief that another massacre was not carried out by this terrorist cell. you were talking about abaaoud, they don't know whether he is the person they killed in those raids this morning. they know he is not the person they arrested. by the way, the security and intelligence services here in france and many countries across europe will be stunned that they think now that that master mind is here. he had previously been seen in syria with isis and the whole assumption was that he was still there. it would be deeply troubling to know he made the journey from syria to europe if that is the case. you are seeing pictures of the extraordinary fire fight that played out, 5,000 rounds fired.
110 police officers involved. the cousin of abaaoud blew herself up with a suicide vest. this fire fight is so intense they think the building is uninhabitable. they have evidence from that third floor apartment just as they will have gotten evidence from the car abandoned as they got evidence from the cell phone found by members of the public here. while these possibly a number of cells have been able to carry out this massacre in paris, they have left a lot of traces that will be helping security intelligence services track them down and track their accomplices down and try to get a better grip on who is where and who is threatening europe from isis. >> thanks so much. for more now i am joined by the former director of our national
intelligence effort. and sean henry, president of crowd strike. mr. ambassador, thank you. when i thought of this and i'm a civilian in every regard i was thinking it wasn't until the french had this attack last friday that they could move with real authority to go after the people and force their hand. the fact that a woman committed suicide and they were shot at and they exposed the danger posed by these terrorist groups by going after them and forcing their hand. it was really dramatic. we didn't know the capability existed in the heart of paris. i think what was said about gathering evidence and picking up whatever they can from the different items they captured we are going to get a better idea of whether this can happen again. when you look at the operation it was very complex three different groups sp so forth
communicating, moving back and forth between belgium and france. do they have the capacity to conduct one or several more of these in a short timeframe? i think we will get a better handle on that. >> the prosecutor in france said they know there are thousands of people in france who are militant, radicalized and ready to act. they can't touch them until they act obviously free society. and they forced them to admit in their own defense that they were the bad guys. it is draesk stuff but does realize the limits of a free society. you can't act until you have emergency power to take them. >> i think now they have something to work with. i have a lot of confidence in the french intelligence and security forces. >> let me go to sean on that.
sean, give us a sense. how do you get on offense here against those people who are waiting for their chance to call the shots as the guy said on his cell phone before he threw it in the trash can we are making our move. >> it is all about intelligence. one of your prior guests said you can't put a police officer in every cafe and bar and stadium. what you need to do is look in advance, look for this information, intelligence to allow you to take the type of actions we saw today in paris. we have hundreds of people or thousands of people who are radicalized living in cities and nations that have tens of millions of people. you are looking for a needle in a stack of needles. these terrorists are living among us. it is all about trying to identify in advance so that you can disrupt them. they have done it successful here over the last few days and didn't do it prior to what happened on friday. unfortunately, that is one of the challenges here for the
security services is trying to maintain civil liberties and rights and look for bad people by using really good valuable intelligence. >> they only had the authority to do it because of the emergency decree. you were down in honduras. strange situation. five people using greek names apparently having come through greece with greek pass ports but they are syrians. are they just five guys looking for work in the states or are they ready to do trouble to us. >> we have no idea at this particular point in time. we know this is huge migration leaving out of syria. people have left the country. more are bound to leave in the coming weeks and months. so out of desperation i think people will try any route. these people took a route and for all we know they were just seeking employment as you said. let me say one thing about france.
france is in a unique situation. 10% of the population is muslim. they have a lot of north african. they have a tremendous challenge on their hands. >> all it takes is a kid in 20s or late teens to say i don't like these people and i don't like the way i have been treat skpd you radicalized. in this country that is the easiest thing in the world to get weapons. more with you next time. thank you for coming on. coming up now lawmakers briefed today on the isis threat. we will talk to two lawmakers next about the security in this country and the strategy. what is our government up to to make sure it doesn't get here. or when it does get here, it's stopped? later, here it comes, the political fight here at home. president obama is mocking his republican critics in the snarkiest of terms. "hardball's" coverage of the terror in paris continues after this.
the u.s. ambassador of france said the fight of terrorism cannot be left to just one country. >> if we look at what happened over the last week first a russian plane that was downed, an attack in beirut and this attack in paris. we are all coming to the conclusion that terrorists don't know any borders. this is not about france or one country. all of us have to work together to defeat this terrible threat of terrorism. >> we'll be right back. [announcer] when you see this truck,
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welcome back to "hardball." the breaking news we are following is the release of a new isis video that suggests pretty dramatic terms that a terror target is now in new york city. a highly produced propaganda video does not contain details and there is no specific threat information yet. late today high level officials from the department of homeland security, fbi, pentagon and state department briefed u.s. senators on capitol hill on the latest development of the terror threat, the paris attacks and the refugee crisis and issue. i am joined by senator al franken, democrat from minnesota. senator, what can you share about new york, about washington, about france and how goes the fight against terrorism? >> well, there is no known threat, actionable threat that we know about or that they knew about. a lot of what we discussed is the refugee question. you know, these refugees are vetted.
they are mainly women and children, families headed by women. there are people who have medical issues. i argue today on the floor of the senate that it's in keeping with our values that we don't interrupt bringing in these vulnerable people. we are talking about 10,000 out of 4 million. the image that i can't get out of my head is of that 3-year-old boy washed up on that island in turkey. that's my grandson. we have a tradition in this country that is about bringing people who are vulnerable, refugees who are escaping horrors like we have seen this week and bringing them to -- that is what the statue of
liberty says, bring me your tired, your poor. i think we have to be consistent with our values. people are afraid. i understand that. what we saw in paris is very scary. paris looks like a lot of american cities. we can't operate out of fear. we vet these people through many layers of vetting. only 2% of the people that we let in last year were men of military age. that's 40 people. they are vetted one layer after another. >> let's take a look at this. hawkish mood in the country tonight. according to new polling from nbc news a majority of the country opposes the government's plan to increase the number of syrian refugees entering the united states. 58% say overwhelming military force is the best way to fight terrorism. 65% say they support sending additional groups.
how do we deal with the politics of this when the country says ground troops to fight isis, american troops? >> we have made this kind of mistake before. we have to take it to isis. this is going to be a long, long campaign. and we have done this before. we have reacted to something very horrible to happen on our country and we went to war and we went to war in iraq and that is no small part responsible for what we are seeing right now. so people have to understand that we don't want to get into a land war again in this region because this doesn't turn out good. we need to pulse our diplomacy. i have been listening to the show. we have heard about the bombing of the russian plane. we need to engage other allies in the region and maybe some enemies, too, in this fight including turkey, including
saudi arabia. and we need to pulse our diplomatic piece by engaging iran in this and russia. but to go into a major land war in this region, that's a slippery slope. and we did also get a lot of information about what we are doing in the region to isis and we are trying to reduce the area that they operate in. we are successfully beginning to do that. but this is a long fight. >> thanks so much, senator al franken of minnesota. last night president obama criticized the congress for seeking a pause, a new word in refugees coming in from syria. let's watch the president. >> i have been waiting for a year and a half or more for legislation that would authorize the military activities that we are carrying out as we speak and
have not been able to get anything out of congress. and now suddenly they are able to rush in in a day or two to solve the threat of widows and orphans and others fleeing a war torn land. and that's their most constructive contribution to the effort against isil? that doesn't sound right to me and i suspect it won't sound right to the american people. >> yesterday, senators jeff flague of minnesota and another slammed the congress's inaction. they wrote isis must take comfort in the seeming ambivalence of congress. senator flake has a bill in the works with diane feinstein which they are calling a bipartisan solution. member of the foreign relations
committee. you strike me as nuanced in your politics. how do we deal with a refugee situation? i have been asking why 4 million refugees include four individuals willing to fight isis? are they all objectors why aren't they fighting for their country in syria? just that question. i would like your answer. >> you would hope that they would want toith fight for their country. i think a lot of them probably are willing to. it has been tough given the situation there and all the competing groups they are fighting to have them involved. so unfortunately as you mentioned 4 million of them have left the country. >> what do we do with the ones who want to come here?
how do we get people in the country without the problem we had in paris? one of the refugees was part of the terrorist operation on friday night. >> we do have a thorough vetting process. i know that the president was very critical of those who the governors and other whose are concerned about this. frankly the administration hasn't done a very good job explaining what this process is. and i'm comfortable with the process. frankly, of all the concerns we have out there and there are many the refugee program is probably down the list a bit the regular visa programs we have, those are much more concerning and the visa waiver program. >> how does that work? tell us what that is going to do. that's news to us. >> with visa waiver we have 39 countries in the world that it is not required to get a visa. we have a visa waiver program that includes countries of the european union. the concern is that a lot of home grown terrorists that are french citizens or brits or germans or others unless there
is another thing to disqualify them they are not able to get a visa. what is introduced is laejz that anyone travelled to iraq or syria from these european countries they wouldn't qualify for the visa waiver program. they can come to the u.s. but go through the process of getting a visa. >> thank you so much. up next, can the world eliminate isis? if so who takes part in the effort? and how does it happen? a lot of talk about eliminating or destroying isis. people love those words but nobody is talking about winning. this is "hardball" and our continuing coverage of the terror in paris.
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wreckage of the russian metro jet airliner which exploded over egypt killing all on board. today an english language isis propaganda magazine isis released a photograph of a device they used to take down the plane saying it was a soda can. the development comes as russia launches a bombardment of syria. president putin vowed to punish isis. previous strikes in that country have targeted the so-called syrian opposition forces instead in other words fighting on behalf of the government. in the wake of isis attack on france and russia is there a chance for greater collaboration with moscow among french and us and the russians? i'm joined by president of feature story news as well as
msnbc political analyst. here is the problem. we look at the world. if everybody is a victim we see ourselves as potential victim. france and russia, why don't we join together and beat up the midget, the jv or whatever we are calling them, isis? are we going to join together? >> no question that is what francois hollande wants to achieve and he is coming here next tuesday to sit with barack obama at the white house. thursday he will be in moscow. he is trying to negotiate an agreement, serve as the bridge between washington and moscow over this. we shouldn't get too excited about what putin did today. those bombing raids were focussed partly on raqqah. the russians concede that they went after what they describe as terrorist targets in italy and aleppo. those are places where isis is
not strong. >> but they suspect isis. how does a strong man, a bully, a dictator, whatever you want to call him, vladmy putin not pounce on the enemy of his country? >> no reason for him not to pounce over the short term on isis. i don't see him make ag long-term bargain to do a deal with barack obama. the safest bet in vegas tonight is not on putin doing the right thing. it is on putin doing what he thinks is most in russia's interest. >> how does he keep the loyalty of russians they get hopped up faster than most people in the world, why would they not expect him to deliver? >> he says he is killing the bad guys. so there has been this opaque version of events on the ground in syria over who he is really going after. he claimed isis and gone -- >> president obama, i was talking in the break there. here they are head to head, great scene. does that mean the president is ready to do business with a guy who has distaste for? >> getting at the sticking part
which is what happens after the bombing. what do you do with assad. the administration has said that they can't have a fully comprehensive solution if assad remains in power because he is a motivating factor for the terrorists. >> and for the refugees. >> and so until they can resolve that element i think these are talks. i don't think you can get anywhere in the long term. >> how does the president push with this status quo policy which may be brilliant but is not active. people don't see us doing something to get something done. >> that is the great quandary. if you talk to people within the administration's orbits, not in the administration itself, there is not the light that russia is getting more involved here because obviously people want to have the u.s. as a power, they are not displeased that russia is getting involved here. >> you know politics as well as i do.
isn't there something we should look like we are doing? what are we doing? i don't see us doing anything. >> i think this is the problem that the administration has, how do you show action without doing overaction. if you step back a little bit and put aside the lindsey grahams of the world and jeb bush basically the candidates in the realm all are arguing for the same prescription. bomb the hell out of them, more specialops, more regional allies and that is if you are looking at the totality they are limited. >> you know what it looks like to me? dainty. dainty doesn't sell. i'm amazed how quickly the numbers have gone up having seen what we did when w was in there. >> i would suspect they go down
a little bit as we move away from paris. >> paris is in our thinking. we are back to french fries. no more freedom fries. thank you. coming up president obama battles with republican presidential candidates as the debate heats up over here at home over whether to accept syrian refugees in the u.s. this is always not in my backyard. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics. the only way to get better is to challenge yourself,
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target of attack. the video does not contain details about a plot against new york. that is not the way isis deals with things. the fbi released a statement moments ago saying who there is no specific articulable threat to the city, the fbi new york joint terrorism task force continues to work with nypd and other law enforcement partners to keep the community safe and fully investigate threat information. if you want to cause trouble in this country threaten new york. it is the media capital of the world. it is like an old i don't know juke box or something, not a juke box, pin ball machine. all the lights and bells go off if you say new york. are you worried up there? >> we have known new york has been a threat since 9/11. we live with it every day. this is life as we know it. so while the federal government
says it is not a credible threat it's a threat to my constituents. we worry about it. we should worry about it. that is why we have to make sure we have the vigilance necessary to protect against it. >> the probable flow of immigrant migrants called refugees from syria itself. you are going to vote on that issue. how do you see the republican measure which would make it tougher to get into this country as a refugee? >> i'm hoping and i'm working for a bipartisan resolution that stipulates two things that we are going to keep the american people safe. there is not a republican or democrat in congress who doesn't believe that we should do more to keep the american people safe. that is our top priority. that has to be just absolutely implicit in this bill. at the same time i want to make sure that where you have a syrian mom who is trying to
protect a child from radicalization and indoctrination that we don't slam the door on that person, that we don't send those people back to be radicalized. so where there are common sense exceptions and i think most americans agree, where there are common sense exceptions that don't pose a threat we ought to allow for those exceptions where they don't pose a threat. our job is to keep the american people safe. i hope we can have a vote on a resolution tomorrow that embraces those two notions. >> thank you so much u.s. congress mavrnman steve veil of new york state. the political fight over terrorism with our people here. speaking from the philippines president obama ripped into republicans and want to turn away syrian refugees from coming into u.s. >> these are the same folks who suggest they are so tough that just talking to putin or staring down isil or additional rhetoric will somehow solve problems but apparently they are scared of widows and orphans coming into the united states of america as
part of our tradition of compassion. first they were worried about the press being too tough on them during debates. now they are worried about 3-year-old orphans. that doesn't sound very tough to me. they have been playing on fear in order to try to score political points or to advance their campaigns. and it's irresponsible. and it's contrary to who we are. and it needs to stop because the world is watching. >> republican presidential candidate and texas senator ted cruz responded to the president earlier today. >> let me suggest something, mr. president, if you want to insult me you can do it overseas but i would encourage you come back
and insult me to my face. let's have a debate on syrian refugees right now. i prefer it in the united states and not overseas where you are making the insults. >> let's bring in "hardball" round table. washington bureau chief from bloomberg business, april ryan white house correspondent and washington bureau chief for american urban radio. let me ask you starting with april, i don't think a president should get snarky. why is he making fun of the republicans? because he let somebody like cruz come back and be equally snarky. >> this is a weighty issue and back and forth snarkiness. when there is a serious issue, it's a serious issue in paris and there is a serious issue here. that is the last thing you need. what is at issue is the fact the parisians are trying to make sure they are safe.
we have an issue here where the fbi is trying to do the same thing they did in paris. they are trying to find those who are sympathizers of the terrorists. what is happening is i am hearing from my sources in intelligence that many of these sympathizers have gone underground in this country. while we are going through all of this here and in paris it needs to be, i guess, a peace accord between ted cruz, donald trump and president obama right now. >> good luck with that one. jeremy, the immigration thing, the refugee thing, this strikes at everybody's not in my backyard mentality. the easiest vote in the world is for a governor to say not here. it's a cheap one. >> as you pointed out that is why this is appealing to democrats in the house and the? t who are anded to vote on this. >> chuck schumer saying -- it is political. >> absolutely it is. if you look at the polls on this, the public wants the
refugees stopped. they don't want them coming into the country. i think it's not an unreasonable position to defend to say until we know who these people are and we are able to properly vet them we have to pause this. >> they think everything is bad whenever we challenge people. we all liked the vietnamese coming here. they were doing well. we don't have a side in syria. it's on our side fighting the other side, going to war with them, doing the best to defend their country. i have said this last night. 4 million refugees, four people have joined our effort to fight the bad guys. why one in a million is going to fight for their own country. they're all ksh conscientious objectors?
it isn't just children and babies. look at the people on the boats. every guy seems to be alone, a bachelor in his 20s. some of them should be willing to fight for their country if we are thinking about it. the american people want to send our troops from arkansas and louisiana to fight in a place they don't speak the language and don't belong there and we don't want the syrians to do their own fighting. >> this is where congress has the opportunity to lead. that's declare war. >> i don't know why we are not trying to fight allies. why aren't we recruiting syrians to fight for syria? >> what you are talking about is -- >> is it too bezaer? >> why you see people streaming out of syria is because they are subject to the same completely barbaric acts of terror with their houses bombed and people beheaded and crucified. >> what do you think the north vietnamese were like? the south koreans fight. why don't the syrians fight? >> we have to be clear about separating the politics of this. the politics are --
u.s. and its allies are losing the fight against isis. that's according to a new survey from nbc news taken after the paris attack he. as we mentioned earlier, 65% supporting ground troops to fight isis over their inner in syria. broken down, that consists of 834% of republicans and 54%, catch that, a majority of democrats. we'll be right back.
trump is at 23%, ahead of dr. carson and marco rubio. a brand new fox poll has trump out tonight at 27%. today on the "today" show, trump slammed president obama. >> i think he's a threat to our country. he must have some kind of a thing going because, you know, when you see that he won't even call them by their name, attack after attack after attack. >> anyway, i only have a minute here for everybody, but megan, jeremy and april, is trump going to be there in february, yes or no? >> absolutely. >> yes, but i don't think he's going to be the president. >> no, february. let's think two months ahead. >> i don't know whether -- >> everybody said he would be gone two months ago. >> where do you think he'll be? he'll be there, money, money, money, money. that's -- >> i don't think that's -- >> yes, it is. >> look, you're getting close.
you get so close. look -- >> i'm sorry, money talkes and other stuff walks. >> i think he's in american nationalism and he's figured it out. >> he's tapped into the perfect moment right now. people are craving strength and he's showing it right now. >> and they love him, too, because of his political money as well as his entertainment value. >> i think it's more than that. i think he's the monkey that types merry christmas, he has typed american nationalism. thank you, megan murphy, jeremy peters. april ryan who continues to resist my thoughts. we'll be right back after this.
let me finish tonight with a shift in the world. there are big, bright signs out there that our country is looking for a big, strong leader. i've shown you polls of donald trump opening up a lead in new hampshire, not a big lead, but a wide one. you know, nothing concentrates the mind, we know, like the threat of imminent danger and ben carson is not the guy you cow when you hear isis is coming. no one thinks of him as commander in chief material. so the question is, who is? hillary clinton sure is. i'm hardly alone in believing she is more hawk than dove, more ready to send in military force than i am. just far more of an interventionist than he is. i see her as stronger on offense right now, perhaps than i have a right to believe. on the republican side, there are a pair of clear winners.
donald trump is an american putin, nationalistic, bullying, touchy. marco rubio is hawkish, as well. he sings the song of those who wants the united states to be forever aggressive in fighting arabs anywhere. it's no more complicated than that. cruz is another potential winner in all of this, except that you have to be truly miserable to have a truly down beat view of the world here and elsewhere to choose him as our next president. so manifestly dreary in voice and public personality. who would like to live in a world ted cruz acts as if he were born to, born to carry the burden of. so good news for trump, bad news for those who still hope we, americans, could have had better options. i've said it before. if he's still up in november, why do we think he won't be up in february or june. trump is still there at the top. that's "hardball" for now. thanks for being with us. "all in with chris hayes" starts right now. good evening from paris.
i'm chris hayes. a massive raid in a northern suburb here has quite possibly disrupted san entire terrorist cell in the wake of friday's attack, with at least two more suspects dead and eight more arrests, we will get to that in a moment. first, nbc news has learned there's a new isis video that headaches a reference to new york's times square. there is no details or plans of a plot. and it's important to know that survey of times square has been used by isis before. senior law enforcement officials say there is no new specific threat information to new york. they are aware of isis images with videos of times square, one source called it more propaganda from isis. joining me now, malcolm mance. your reaction to this? >> well, certainly i have strong reactions to the raid that was carried out today by french forces. it was an intelligence success and it was a ground combat direct action success. however, we did see some components of isis, which hadn't been present before. use of female suicide bombers