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and good morning to you, it's friday, november 27th. thanks for joining us this morning after thanksgiving. we have a lot to cover including an arrest at the white house. a man jumped the fence sparking a lock down where the first family gathered inside. also, new tension between turkey and russia with both countries talking tough over that deadly incident involving a fighter jet in alaska. national security expert, this is exactly what isis wants. also, you can almost hear those cash registers lighting up as black friday shoppers stake out the biggest bargains. what it means for the economy
and america's bottom line. also, donald trump saying something again that would land candidates in big trouble. we'll play that and ask this time in donald has gone too far. we start though with the latest on the fight against terror in europe where there are new arrest this morning in france. a national day of mourning and remembrance is under way as president hollande returns from his tour. his latest meeting was with the russian meeting what appeared to be an intense meeting at times. hollande urged russia to focus on isis and other terrorist groups and not the opposition. he says the countries will have information on targets moving forward. meanwhile, putin insisted turkey knew they were downing a russian fighter jet. russia now preparing to retaliate by imposing sanctions,
cutting economic ties and scrapping major investment projects and in brussels, authorities lowered alert level there 16 days after terror attacks similar to those no paris. much of the city was shut down for almost a week. in a press conference, prime minister lowered the threat level from imminent to serious. this while the country's justice minister said fugitive suspects is likely, likely getting support from others during his continues flight from authorities. i want to bring in nbc news correspondent in the french capitol this morning. gabe, a ceremony for the victims. what was the reaction for the french people some two weeks after the attacks? >> reporter: hey there, craig. it was a very emotional morning here in france.
many people arrived in a somber mood. the names of the 130 victims were read out loud and slowly read out and there was a moment of silence held at the memorial where survivors, victims families and french president hollande said the nation has been attacked by a cowardly act of war and vowed the country could do everything it could to destroy those responsible. he also called upon the french people to remember the victims. they were going to serve here in france over the last two weeks. military recruitment centers had been overwhelmed. flag makers are having a tough time keeping up. we can see them here throughout paris today. there has been a bit of a
backlash through the state of emergency in effect in france over the last two weeks. some have debated whether the debate between civil liberties and public safety. despite that, despite public demonstrations being banned, there was a gathering here last night and we spoke with one of the protesters. here's what he had to say. >> we would survive all these attacks but we would not survive if we got in late and lead the democratic institution. >> by getting rid of your civil liberties, you feel like you're letting the terrorist win. >> yes, we are going the wrong way. the thing to do is to go on being what we are. >> reporter: security here in france is ramping up again. more troops and police officers
being deployed ahead of the u.n. climate conference which is said to again monday. some 140 heads of state are expected here in paris for that. craig. >> gabe for us this morning in paris, gabe, thank you. meanwhile, the white house went into lock down for several hours yesterday after a man scaled and jumped a fence before being stopped by the secret service all while the family was enjoying thanksgiving. video captured the moments just after the secret service stopped the man on the north lawn. he was draped in an american flag. you can see him right there. he was later identified of joseph in stanford, connecticut. he was able to scale and climb over the fence and measures nearly eight feet while clinching what appears to be a manilla folder in the house.
a man with a knife jumped the fence and made it in before being apprehended. as for yesterday's incident charges are pending. there is still more heavy travel left before the end of the weekend and law enforcement agencies all over the country remain on heightened alert. the macy's thanksgiving day parade went without incident as 2,400 new york police were among the crowd. one hitch, a man accused of using a drone over the route according to the new york nbc affiliate. he was issued a summons of the drone he was flying with his son. i'm joined by alice. heavy security at travel hubs around the country but from a
security perspective, law enforcement not letting their guard down, right? >> reporter: absolutely not. they're encouraging people to remain vigilant as you point out the big day of celebration has passed and come and gone without much of a hitch you point out. the fact that that particular person speaks to the effect that there were so many police authorities and police officials out yesterday covering the area. today, there won't be as much traffic traveling from people coming there. 137 million people going to shop
online and in the outlets. you're going to see a lot of traffic there. i suspect you'll see an awful lot of security because they remained on heightened alert. they're telling people do not let your guard down and the security officials are not letting their guard down either. here at penn station, this was the hub of activity, people are resting a little bit this morning but it's expected to see somemore activity as the day moves on. >> penn station, thanks as always. we are following breaking news from chicago overnight. police say they have now made an arrest in the brutal murder of 9-year-old lee. he was the kid lured into an alley earlier this month and shot execution style. police believe that the murder itself was gang retaliation against the boy's father. we are expected to learn more about the arrest when police hold a news conference later this morning.
news protesters are expected to take their demonstration to the famed magnificent mile hoping to disrupt the businessiest shopping district on the businessiest shopping day of the year. meanwhile, police released four more video dash dash cam video. adam, let's start with today's protest along michigan avenue. no doubt the city's most poplar shopping district there. whose behind it? what should we expect? >> craig, good morning to you. black leaders, city leaders, teacher's group. a large contingent will be here. it is the magnificent mile and shopping district here in
chicago. they expect all those groups to come here. they're calling for economic justice. they want chicago to feel their pain. they have a lot of questions about the shooting which they believe is a big cover up. not only by the police department but city officials as well. they want to know why it took so long for the officer to be charged some 400 days. why was the family paid $5 million before the video was released and why was there no audio on the tapes you just showed, craig? >> adam, have you gotten a sense on whether the police is going to allow the protesters to stop traffic along the magnificent mile or are they going to stop the protesters from blocking businesses? >> we don't know if they're going to stop them. we know there will be a large
police contingent. it's a 10 block walk. we believe they will allow them to protest. the mayor has said they can protest peacefully. that is fine. they welcome that. they don't want any violence. if i could add they are calling for justice. they want the justice department to get involved and they want a special prosecutor to get involved. most importantly, they want these cities, pliolice superintendent, both of them to step down, craig. >> adam in chicago, adam, we know civil rights leaders will be announcing a summit on the police reforms in the coming days. thank you, sir. today, as you might have heard, one of the biggest shopping days of the year. so-called black friday is well under way across this country and already a big year for our line sales. according to u.s.a. today by yesterday afternoon before the turkey had even been fully di
jested, shoppers spent $500 million in early deals. nonetheless, shoppers heading out this year despite the crowds and long lines and as usual it has not all been polite. this is the scene at florence, kentucky. mauf been fighting over a pair of shoes. in atlanta officers tapping into security centers. sarah is at the atlantic station mall. early reports there, record number of consumers using their mobile device for shopping this year. has that been a smaller crowd there than years past? >> reporter: well, craig, actually black friday sales expected to be down about 2%. shopping on your mobile devices
is one reason. retailers have already been offering good deals all month long. that's playing into the decrease you see and cyber monday expected to be huge. that's expected to be up 5%. that speaks to consumers and the ease at which you can use those mobile devices in your hand, in your lap, on the airplane out and about. at work you can click on the deals and have it shipped right to your house so very easy. 135 million people still expected to shop today and through the weekend. small business saturday and into cyber monday. don't look at this slight downturn in black friday shopping as an indicator about the e moconomy. spending her person up this year averaging $830 per shopper. the most since 2007. >> we've been talking a lot about heightened security over the past few days. have you seen more security
where you are in atlanta? >> you see an increase in security out on the streets whether it's security guards for the mall or police officers. they're definitely out but the malls are also saying they're employeeing a number of things your not going to see. police tapping into surveillance cameras and doing a number of things behind the scenes they're not going to tell consumers about. they don't want to compromise those security measures. they're also asking people to follow the old see something say something adage and keep their eyes peeled not only for security risk, also for the good deals. >> sarah live from atlanta, thank you. it was a messy thanksgiving in the midwest weather wise with a major winter storm dumping more than a foot of snow in areas creating hazardous driving conditions. for more on what holiday shoppers can expect, we turn to mike sidell in oklahoma city where the rain and wind appears
to be coming down. what's the black friday forecast, mike? >> reporter: this is a good day to be indoors shopping, craig either at home, online or in the malls around oklahoma city and around the plain states. we have 13 million in the path of the wintry sier side of the . first start here with the winter side and this took place wednesday and wednesday night all the way out to the west. washington state, pacific northwest, northern california getting as much as 20 inches of snow and yesterday the moisture got into the cold air and we had a little bit of snow in nebraska but the real story is the freezing rain aspect. we had some late yesterday and even right now freezing rain in wichita, kansas and the flash flooding has been kind of scary in the dallas-fort worth area. earlier this morning, overnight last night in dallas fort worth a deputy was swept away trying
to rescue a driver. he himself was rescued later. dallas has had over 4 inches of rain. it's another wettest year on record. they've had 5 inches of rain. it's the middle of the country where you have the issues. it's not going to be a lot of snow where the east coast and west coast looking good and travel back on sunday looking good for most. there will be rain in the middle of the country. the major hub in chicago, new york, atlanta, the west coast looking good for the return home on sunday. >> mike joining us from where he spends a great deal of the time in the elements on this friday morning, mike, thank you. coming up, with tensions over syria and thousands of refugees in need of a place to go, ben carson goes to see the crisis up
close. we'll talk about how to 2016 candidates spent the holiday. >> as belgium begins to release the tension, they're ready to prevent another terrorist attack. simmons joins us live. we'll be right back. ideas are scary. they come into this world ugly and messy. ideas are frightening because they threaten what is known. they are the natural born enemy of the way things are. yes, ideas are scary, and messy and fragile.
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attack have been prevented? some of the extremist known to belgian authorities. it was another attack being planned. je belgian's prime minister trying to calm fears while facing criticism. >> you have lost control of security. >> yeah, i can't confirm the threats for an attack is imminent and serious separately, two men were arrested in germany accused of planning still more terror. europe on edge and attack that changed lives.
>> craig, europe has been scarred by this but still e determined. >> live in belgium this morning. thank you. i'm joined from washington by the heritage foundation's vice president and foreign and defense policy studies as well as visiting professor. james, good to have you with me this morning. thanks for being here. we would focus on any group that
was actively planning attacks on the united states. that left a lot of space for other groups to get organized. until planning an attack on the united states is intent. you switch that from one day. we were less concerned about general issues in north africa and the middle east. that creates space for groups to rebuild. >> in term of our strategy moving forward with regards to how we defeat isis, you've suggested that boots on the ground shouldn't be an option. it should very much be at the center piece of how we wage this new battle, correct? >> i don't say that lightly. it's what's the key interest for the united states? i think our key concern is isis has territorial control over a large state in iraq. it gives it a platform to be a terror force and creates tensions that could result in a large regional war which could
impact u.s. interest as well. breaking isis territorial control over iraq is the key concern and that has to, i think, require substantial, thousands of well organized conventional forces that go and drive them out of their control. >> where would the soldiers be positioned and how many are we talking about here? ball park. >> i'm a retired military guy. i spent 25 years in the military. me as an individual is not going to map out an entire campaign for iraq. looking historically and logically on what we've seen before, you got to push people out of cities which is ground force intensive, i think we are talking tens of thousands of troops. i think just being realistic, if we don't want a repeat of what happened last time, you have to have a residual force. you have to have a force that would stay for some time to
allow the country to reboot and again, as long as there's an on going civil war in syria, there's a threat bad guys can come back. woouf >> james, we'll have to leave it there. thank you. there are new concerns about security at a white house after a man jumped the fence yesterday despite the new spikes designed to prevent this kind of breech. for more on what happened, let's go to kristin welling consider. what's the latest there? >> reporter: hey, craig, good morning. the suspect is expected to face criminal charges later today. he is the first person to scale the white house fence since the new security measures were put in place over the summer and the most disconcerning part may be
that the entire first family was home at the time. >> this man jumped over the white house fence and was apprehended after taking a few steps and all unfolded while the first family enjoyed thanksgiving inside. some witnesses told the washington post they heard him say all right, let's do this before scaling the nearly eight foot fence. this footage posted on instagram captures the terrifying moment. the white house placed in lock down mode for more than three hours and the surrounding streets blocked off. this marks the first time someone has jumped over the fence since new spikes were put in place nearly five months ago
and comes as the secret service t is trying to rebound after a breech of security incident. last fall there was a breaking point when a man with a knife jumped the fence and made it inside the executive mansion. the president wasn't home then. still it prompted a change at the top and agent clancey was brought in. this latest jumper a reminder there's still gaps! any time someone jumps the fence there's no question there's a level of danger to the first family. >> he's from connecticut and one of his family members tells our affiliate he's a good kid. a senior member of the committee has requested a meeting with secret service next week and says she's astonished someone would be able to jump the fence despite the spikes put in place to prevent that exact thing from
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carolina. it's a moment the front runner is taking a lot of heat for. the reporter actually has a medical condition. it all started after trump dug up a washington post story one week after 9/11. that report referenced reports of people celebrating in new jersey as the twin towers fell. trump started using the article as evidence to support his claim that he actually saw thousands celebrating in new jersey on 9/11. he later told msnbc he couldn't recall anything at the time. trump released a statement i have no idea who this reporter
is, what he looks like or his level of intelligence. i don't know if he is jay jay watt or muhammad ali or someone of less athletic ability. he's disputing the claim saying he's met with trump probably a dozen times. i'm joined now from washington with bob. will this be the controversy that finally hurts donald trump in the polls? >> it doesn't look like it. his support of 30% or less seems to be cast in concrete. many say it's the people who support him who don't really care about the facts and taste. they're angry at a political system that's failed them and they are happy to support somebody who expresses that anger and here you have donald
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that they love him to the point that they're willing to beat up people, particularly at a rally who are starting to demonstrate a little bit. >> will there be long term consequences? are these the kinds of things we remember? >> there are two series to that. one, it's the kind of thing people do remember and attach to a party brand. the other is the americans for the most part when it comes to politics have the memory span of a net and all of this is forgotten as we move to whatever the story is. >> bob, always good to see you. enjoy your incite. coming up, we are tracking a snowstorm. we're talking snow, ice, it's
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most forecast are calling for growth between 3.4 and 3.5 sales. it's clearly only early signals but it seems like shoppers were out in the stores. it was a record setting day in terms of traffic. >> is black friday in store shopping a thing of the past or are more and more folks pointing and clicking in. >> more and more folks are pointing and clicking but black friday is hardly dead. 135 million people expected to shop this weekend, many of them in stores. shoppers were there because they wanted the experience and wanted to touch and feel the goods before they bought them and liked hearing the festive music. >> what's the hot toy? >> oh boy, in terms of hot toys, it's all about star wars. the new movie coming out december 18th and it's expecting to be a merchandising -- even
more than frozen. you can expect the bb 8 droid to be a big seller as well as some light savers. for electronics, target saw strengths in a pads and apple watches. >> what's the story on these big bears everyone seems to be talking about? >> you know, that was a surprise. we saw at target stores across the country, people were scooping those up within mad last night. they were selling out in minutes. this is shaping up to be a monster year for the toy category generally. this is suppose to be the best year for a decade. this is persistent with that. we are seeing parents going for the more tech savvy toys. even more old school ones like he knows and barbies as well. the bear seems to be fitting in with that. >> the bears are back. who new. sarah, thank you. >> thank you. >> coming up, high winds, snow,
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good morning, everyone. it is friday, november 27th. i'm alex witt. a solemn memorial in paris this morning. remember those killed in the paris attacks. and weep taug about francois hollande, who getting closer to getting his bomb initial making a an, but we start with the lates on the fight against terror in europe. france is in a national day of mourning and remembrance as president francois hollande
returned from his tour in moscow with russian president vladimir putin. hollande says the countries will coordinate information about air strikes as british prime minister david cameron appealed to parliament for action. >> but the most important answer to the question why us, is i plof even more fundamental. and it's this -- we shouldn't be con kent without outsourcing our securities to our allies. if we believe that ire can help protect us, then with our al buys, we should be said from it. >> they've lowered the alert level section days after
concerns. in a prs conference, the prime minister lowered the threat level from imminent to serious, this while the country's justice minute ter said that fugitive suss select salah abdeslam is likely getting support from others during himself continued flight from authorities. gabe gutierrez held le. >> reporter: the president took a break to pause and reflect. there were survivors and victims' families. these victims were young, most in their 20s and 30s.
today president hollande said the whole world was in mourning and france would do whatever he could to destroyed the army of fanatics. military recruiting centers have seen a spike in interest. flag makers are having a tough time keeping up with demand and president hollande urged people throughout france to display the tricolor at their homes and businesses. still, though, there as been a bit of a backlash to the state of emergency in france. public administrations are a ban, which is set to begin on monday. last night we spoke with some demonstrators who were upset some of those protest himself been banned. >> we will survive all these
attacks but we will not survive if we capitulate and leave the democratic institution we have created. >> we are going the wrong way. the thing to do is to go on being what we are. >> and security here in france is being ramped up ahead of that climate conference. 120,000 troops and plefs have been deployed throughout the country so far since the attacks two weeks ago today. another 11,000 or so are expected here for that paris. some 140 heads of state are expected to arrive there. >> there are new questions and
concerns at the white house. kristen walker joins us. those pencil spikes are harsh. >> ethey are. they're supposed to stop people. he's the first person to scale the wall since the new security measures were put in place. the secret service is vetting this morning after this man identified as joseph caputo jumped over the white house ferchs, drake under a money and enjoy withines told the paup they heard ka pew owe say all right, let's do this, before
jumps the fence, there's no question there's a level of danger to the first family. >> caputo is from connecticut. and someone told our afill nat in worky ""in. >> before i let you go, i do want to get your take on the headlines and the latest controversy surrounding donald trump. what is unfolding between trump and the latest times report sfer. >> trump coming under fire for seeming to mock tnl there.
"the washington post." donald trump said an article that cove less can i backed hup his wildly muslims were stated that. he said that article that prompts hadded this response from. >> a of a now the poor guy, you got to see this guy, ah, i don't know what i said. i don't remember. i don't remember. maybe that's what i said. this is 14 years ago. they didn't do a retraction.
>> alex, some folks saying those remarks were disqualifying for donald trump. but they said, quote, we think it's outrageous that he would ridicule the appearance of one of our reporters. donald trumps it f i don't know if it is j.j.a or someone there. >> as you know, alex, donald trump as been mired in a number of controversies and he's beenable to maintain his frner status. by all indications, this won't
likely be dechb but it could hurt him. >> some of the trump fans were laughs if so that is encouraging. >> and po nrm. >> maybe this one have an effect. we'll see you. >> thank you from the white house. >> police say they made an arrest early this morning in e the -- 27-year-old cory morgan is a person of interest in the
case. he was arrested on bond and then freed earlier this month on a weapons charge. police believe that murder was gang retaliation against the boy's father. we expect to healed more on the pro seconds they're hoping to disrupt the busy shopping on, this the businessent day of the year. the flour police have released for more dash cameras when youing the officer's. on the cover of the chicago sunday the. >> all i want you to do is think
about -- >> the video footage does not show me -- i'm trying to tech nobody. i don't care what was in he is body. why would anybody shoot a man after he's down almost a dozen more times. i want to pray for the calm of the season but we could be on the verge another anger because anchor is uncontrolled. >> joining us from chicago, adam, let's start with today's protest up michigan avenue. first off, what are they hoping
to accomplish? >> i skim him many they've got a lot of complaints, they've got a lot of questions about this shoot. they want to know whys it 400 days before the family was charged, the family got even $5 million in settlement before the video was release. they want both the police superintendent as well as the state's attorney general, beau of them to step down, alex. >> what about the release of the dash car video? there were eight cars, five of
which have had. now we blee are frm there's no audio. no sound of the big deal. that's a complaint about that. but still, no ad owe on those tapes and that's a big, bag, critical reason they're out here today protesting that shooting. alex? >> yet they're able to hear to some degree the police -- >> joining us in new york city is rahima ellis. good friday morning to you. let's of travel to come before
this holiday is over. talk about the upgraded security that you ever -- inside you see the national guard. they are filt things and if f there's the expectation that something like 135, 137 million people will be shopping on and in the stores. but you should also expect to see a heavy police presence at those malls and shops as well. in atlanta, one of the malls and malls strong temperature so they
can see if real time what is going on flfrmt. they certainly are not saying something as part of our personality. >> coming up bellum pb fpt. >> and people are certainly ot shopping, even at this early hour all over the country this morning. but does it compare to past years? that story as we continue here.
. >> let's go right now to atlanta. that is where we get the latest with regard to the shopping. you're in atlanta at the station mall. it looks so pretty. there's a picture behind you. what's it like? is it busy? >> it's as pretty as a picture but it's as still as anything right now, alex. we are expecting crowds later today. there's a number of factors overall why black friday is expected to drop about 2% this year. one of those main ones being the ease with with shoppers can per use gift selections from their own homes, their mobile devices
be ni pads, compute -- and anot choice is stores have been offing deal from 80%. in contrast, cyber monday expected to be bigger than ever, up 6%, as we talk about the ease at which people can purchase things online. don't take this as an indicator that the economy may be bad. people are expected to spend more this year than in the years past. not since 2007 have they spent this much. about $830 per person, aless. a lot of people are done feasting on thanksgiving day dinner and now they're ready to feast on some sales. >> thanks for monitoring that for us from atlanta.
there are reports of new arrests. laddio lavanga. the lowered terror alert does at the la. >> alex, you can krit max be a couple of hours ago. there was some suggestion, of course, that it could have been postponed. because it just hoped in too many temperature that doesn't explain why the government has
decided to lower the threat. they say the threat is still sear wall and moe otherwise they will not have atted a big attract getting touch not to do it. in the moon too many there will be a lot soldiers and policemen on the streets. before you enter the market, the police are checking bags to make sure nobody with evil intent will get into the market. of course they can buy food, drinks, gifts. but the two biggest gifts is if th
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this morning ben carson will visit are syrian refugees in jordan. this comes after he made a comparison between refugees and dogs. >> we have to have in place skraening mechanisms that allow us to determine who the mad dogs quite frankly. who are the people who want to come in here and hurt us? >>. >> carson isn't the only candidate coming under fire for comments. trump denying he mocked serge kob less ski's congenital condition. trump now defending his debunked
claims that thousands of syrians cheered 11. but he's now in trump's cross hairs saying nothing in his article backed trump up. he's going i don't remember. maybe that's what i said. this is 14 years ago. >> the "new york times" outraged trump would ridicule the physical appearance of a reporter. trump is now saying he didn't know he had a disability tweeting he should stop using it to grandstand and get back to a paper that is rapidly going down the tubes. >> i don't think will donald trump there are any limits to what you can say. >> and while most candidates took a break for turkey day, ted cruz will be back in iowa tomorrow since a new poll showed him surging, closing in on trump. no holiday from the campaign trail.
>> that was halle jackson reporting there. let's bring in political analyst bob franken. i want to get to your latest op-ed in which you wrote, "thank to 2015, we're having a huge tradition that means tolerance -- explain what you mean by that? >> it seems reich now we're seeing a surge of intolerance, personified by the popularity of donald trump. many people are feeling powerless because they've been perhaps feeling betrayed by the existing politician so they're gravitating to a donald trump who doesn't have any limits to how far that can go. >> he leads in all the polls but this controversy, could this be the one that finally hurts trump in the polls? by the way, a question i've
asked many times before in this campaign season. >> and i think we've learned our lesson. i can't imagine anything is going to undo it. he seems to have a consistency of about 25% to 30% that seems to be pretty much locked in concrete. they are so furious at the system that just about any sort of civilized is considered suspect. >> as we head into next year, do you think the big issue will be that voters hone in on to make their pick for the gop nominee, would it be terrorism, would it be the refugee crisis? where do you think it's going to come down? >> it's hard to say. the new emphasis on matters foreign has to do with the attack in paris that has just
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lines. it's not all polite. in florence, kentucky, this fight which might have been over a pair of shoes. oh, come on. and police expect large crowds. in atlanta officers are tapping into security cameras to keep an eye on things. sara eisen, what are you looking at? good morning. investors will watch the retail sales as they trickle out. the question on this black friday, as it has been in recent year is how many shoppers will actually go into the stores because more and more shopping is being done online. $1.1 billion has already been spent online, drench in part
because of strong toy demand because of the new "star wars" moving coming out. target saying strong sales yesterday ahead of thanksgiving and into thanksgiving. they said items like the apple watch and ipad were the best sellers and beat solo 2 headphones did well. electronics over apparel. it's a real shift in consumer spending. the question i get is does black friday really still matter? and the answer is yes. it still makes up 20% of holiday sales and holiday sales are the biggest time for u.s. retailers. i would argue that it matters even more this year, alex because a lot of the retailers are struggling with slower foot traffic into stores, heavy promotions, which weighing on their profits and margins. the warmer weather, 60 degrees
outside of new york and that doesn't help with the items of higher ticket priced items like down jackets. this good news is it's good news for consumers because it means heavier discounts and promotions and deals to get them through the door. >> let's talk with professor of sterns, you'd think that good weather meant people would be out there in the stores but not so much. >> you take a look around, a lot of people are out there playing golf because it's so warm. if it's too warm, it's bad, if the west, there's blizzards that keep people away. but they can't control it.
you have to grin and bear it, right? >> at what point do you think online shopping as it keeps getting volume and the mad dash? >> it's never going to do i stro it. i asked them % of sales do you think are done online? one young person said 7 %, somebody else said 50%. the actual number is 7%, which surprises a lot of people. during the holiday season that doubles to 14% but bricks and mortar still matter for a long time. >> we mention talking to your friends and family around the thanksgiving table about this. there are a will the of people getting rid of thanksgiving traditions to get out into the stores. do you think this is going to
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they are demonstrating against problems directly to blame for the shooting of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. and dash cam video is raising fresh questions about the killing. it shows mcdonald running through a parking lot but like the first video released, the footage lacks any discernible audio. in terms of the protests coming up in a couple of hours, what do they have planned today? >> reporter: they're calling for economic justice, alex. they want chicagoans to feel their pain, making their way down the busy shopping district today. they've got a lot of questions about that video you just showed, the shooting of laquan
mcdonald. why was it 400 days before they charged the officer and why was the family given $5 million in a settlement before the video was even released? they believe there's been a coverup by city hall and the police department. they're coming if a justice department investigation. but most of all, they want the state's attorney and the police superintendent, gary mccarthy, to step down immediately. alex? >> but really quickly, the videos that's been released, as i've read it, adam, there is some audio, you can hear the sound of sirens but not up else. any explanation being given for this? >> no. there's five cars that we have the video, the dash tam cam video out of a total of eight cars at the scene. there's no sound of those 16 shots and that's critical. the group gathering here today,
that's within of their big complaints. there seems to be a history here in chicago of dash cam videos not having any audio. >> thank you so much for that. i want to bring in pastor cory brooks. he's withone of the leaders of today's protests against violence. what do you want to achieve today with these protests? >> we want to achieve the fact that 365 days a year on the south and west sides of chicago, we are economically deprived. our goal is to go to the magnificent mile for at least one day to allow pain through, we have some of the worst schools in the country and we want people to know the pain that we feel every single day. >> and you heard i guess
mentioned earlier by reverend jesse jackson, he says if police come up against you and the peaceful protests turn to a little built more strident, you have many followers there and ready to be arrested, staged in lines and the like i do expect we're going to stay peaceful and be purposeful pu we have a first amendment right and we should not be stopped from mishing d n down --
>> what is behind that? >> a lot of people feel it was a cover-up. there was a movement to stop this video from being shown. everyone has to play a part in that who played a part and they have to be held accountable. any time you wait 400 days that could have been released weeks after, it's another major problem. it smells like and seems like a coverup. >> are you asking for the police commissioner to step down? >> i personally have no problem with the police commissioner. a lot of people do. my problem is more with the state's attorney and with the mayor. a lot of people asking for the superintendent to stand done or resign, it's kind of funny because they're not standing against the mayor. i think the mayor is the one who has the responsibility in the city of chicago and more people need to speak out about that. >> i know this takes in about
three hours from now. best of luck. we'll be watching here at msnbc. >> cory morgue and was questioned in the case against tyshawn lee. police believe he was lured into an alley on november 13th and shot at close range. >> many retailers are increasing security following the recent terror attacks in paris. >> well, instead of being home at the dinner tables, an increasing number of shoppers getting a head start with many stores staying open late and some open overthe weather looks
pretty good. what do you think it is? a little too much turkey? everyone's like, oh, wow, sleeping in? >> that's a possibility, people are still sleeping off that beg meal. we really are in a lull here. the door busters have come and gone and now we're moving into these all-day deals. here some stores are slicing surprises by 50%. keep in mind some stores began offering deals well before this holiday weekend. 60% of shoppers say they had already started checking off their gift lists before thanksgiving hit. jofr all, though, holiday shopping expected to be up this
year. we're talking about the overall season. it's going to be up about 3.7%, expected to bring in more than $630 billion. on average americans will spend about $830 on holiday shopping. that's the most since 2007. >> how about security? do you already see a press sentence. >> reporter: we are seeing an increased presence, not on to handle the larger-than-usual spre expected crowds, while we're seeing increased presence in terms of officers, there's a lot more going on behind the scenes. officials don't want to talk about those measures and compromise them. they're also asking for shoppers to do part.
the old see something-say something adage here. >> thank you. a dangerous blast of winter weather this weekend. mike seidel join us with that. >> down in dallas they've had a lot of rain. over 4 inches. a woman was swept away in -- dallas with 55 inches of rain there. flash flood watches continuing until sunday morning. here we could get a little icing tomorrow and tomorrow morning and then it dries out on sunday. for the beg travel day on sunday, the major hubs, airports look pretty good chicago, new
york and airports in atlanta. the only real problem for the roadways on sunday will be some rain, from dallas to memphis and parts of the lower mississippi valley. >> mike seidel, thank you for that report. criminal charges expected for the man who successfully jumped over the white house fence while the first family celebrated thanksgiving inside. he was immediately apprehended and taken into custody leaving the white house on lockdown for nearly three hours. kristen walker joins us from the white house with more on this today. it's a bizarre situation. >> reporter: really bizarre. he's the first person to scale the white house since new security measures were put in
place. the secret service is investigating this morning after this man identified as joseph caputo jumped over the white house fence, draepd in an american flag, clichbing a binder in his mouth. it all unfolded while the first family enjoyed thanksgiving inside. before scaling the nearly 8-foot fence. this footage captures the terrifying moment when the crowd was told to scatter. the white house put in lockdown mode for nearly three hours. for witnesses it was unnerving. they were like "move, move, move." >> this marks the first too many someone jumped over the fence since new spikes were put in place nearly five months ago and it comes after the secret
service -- last fall there was a breaking point when a man with a knife jumped the fence and ran toward the white house. this latest jumper is a reminder. >> any time anyone jumps the fence, there's no question there's danger for anyone in the white house. >> and the spikes were put in place to prevent exactly that.
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victims. the vast majority were in their 20s and 30s. and some made it to the ceremony in wheelchairs. there has been a surge in french patriotism. flag makers are struggling to keep up with demand. the president urged people to display the flag and you can see the flag draped in many buildings as well. military recruiting is also off the chart. and security here is also ramping up ahead of that u.n. climate con frn which is set to begin on monday. some 10 heads of state are expected here, 120,000 troops and plefrs had been deployed in france since he's attacks two weeks ago. another 11,000 or so are expected here in paris for monday's conference. >> gabe, what's so interesting, you mentioned the french flag. the fact is they've not seen a serge in popularity in putting
out the french flag not since the world cup in ' 8. it's so interesting the cult, it do this terrorist attack, the worst in this country's recent memory has really just caused the people here to just have s its. >> this there's been a steady stream of mourners who have come here the last few weeks. this cuts to the core of the french people. it took this man two weeks to build up the strength to come here. it's not hard to find someone that either knew a neighbor or close this has shaken all of
europe and the entire world. pretty poignant there. okay, gabe. let go to another developing story overseas. tensions between russia and turkey remain high following the shooting done of a russian warplane. this morning the. >> russia waits for what it describes as a reasonable explanation for why that plane was shot done. >> up next, strong security
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here. let's show you what it looks like on radar right now. if you're driving on 35 between these two cities, unfortunately you're looking at treacherous travel. lots of rain working its way into the st. louis area. we're watching for that. if you're driving in oklahoma, you're going to face ice and even snow into denver. the shoppers that are out and about, temperatures are brutal. in denver, the high today is 18 degrees. this cold air plunging to the south. we're seeing ice, sleet, freezing rain all across the region. we're expecting more wet weather and even the risk for flooding into texas and oklahoma across the southern plains. saturday the flood threat looms right in this part of the country, still mild to the east and comfortable to the west. temperatures to the 50s and 60s.
sunday we're watching out for rain into texas and tennessee as well. i'll be monitoring this throughout the weekend. unfortunately a lot of people dealing with the inclement weather. >> despite all that difficult weather, the post-thanksgiving ralph trush is under way. many are noticing the ramped up security measures across the country. let's go to rehema ellis. what's it like inside? >> inside they are armed inside the ak track station. some people say it's comforting,
knowing there is a police presence, a military presence in fact. i must say there are some vehicles out here which are also police vehicles but they're unmarked. there is a heavy police presence that is visible and there's also a presence you cannot see. the traffic here is a little in terms of the people. >> traffic is going to be heavy at the mall and security will be heavy as well. >> did you say 137 million at the shopping malls, rehema? >> at the malls and online, the combination of those two things. >> thank you so much, rehema, from midtown manhattan.
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condition which affects his arms. trump maintains he was not making fun of his condition, tweeting here's a quote, "i do not know the reporter for the "new york times" or what he looks like. i was showing a person graveling to take back a statement made long ago." meantime ben carson strongly opposes any syrian refugees coming into the united states but has recently been kret sized f -- criticized for his foreign policy credentials. joining me now, guys, i hope you had a happy thanksgiving. serge kovaleski said "donald and
i were on a first-name basis for years, i've interviewed him in his offices and talked to him and interacted with him around is dozen times while i was with the "daily news." do you think this time he's taken it too far? >> you know, alex, i really don't know. the reason why is because we keep having this conversation. the time he mocks carly fiorina, the time he says muslims cheered after 9/11. the reality is today is the day after thanksgiving. it's black friday. donald trump can say it's the day after christmas and it's tuesday. donald trump has a different version of the truth and he says it with so much conviction that people stand up and say this guy is fighting for me. donald trump is not a serious issues. what is he going to do about the
syrian refugee crisis? what is he going to do about turkey, dealing with putin and sch china? these are serious issues and yet we're tacking about this guy mocking a "new york times" columnist. it's almost inconceivable. >> also just the fact keking itself, he's being called out publicly by different elements of the media pretty consistently, richard. in fact, he insists he deavers an apology. >> so that init's against my self-interest to say bad things about donald trump because i think almost any democrat would love him to be the republican nominee but i think it's an embarrassment to all americans that the person running at the top of one of the political parties is out there mocking the
disabled and so forth. this motion that how he didn't mean it -- look, here's the problem. the problem is if it was david duke or george wallace appearing on morning joe or any other tv show, they wouldn't be yucking it up and he's such a bald faesed liar in two respects, when he saturday something like i didn't call for a database of muslims when there's tapes showing that and then he has these exaggerations of 9/11 or 250,000 syrians. i think it's time for the media to have a pact like if we're serious journalists, and not yuck is up because he's a wall street guy. >> i have to say, george
stephanopoulos was really rentlessless going after him and he is broadcast. >> you can go to china, israel, all these placesit may boost your bragging rights but the reality is can you answer the complex questions that journalists such as yourself, alex ask these presidential candidates and secondly, and just as importantly, do you have a solution to fix whatever the problem may be? ben carson is a brill yantd neurosurgeon but when it comes to the basic mechanics of foreign policy and the, the reality is we are dealing with some very serious issues here and traveling around the world
just so you can check that box doesn't necessarily mean you're qualified to to be our next commander in chief. >> do you think this trip will soften his stance? he said firsthand knowledge is all better than second hasn't. if he goes to camps and taebs a look at the refugee camps, did i i. >> and it's good he's going on the scene of this refugee camp. but when his own adviser said it impossible, you the movie "being there" with essentially the village idiot but people imputed
to his wisdom. i'll agree he's a neurosurgeon, he has a brain somewhere, he knows nothing about policy, foreign, domestic. he hasn't shown one bit of knowledge there. i can't imagine that's going to be able to sustain him going forward. >> i'm going to make a focal point here when he gets to jordan, he's going to be going to hospitals and clinics and checking thingsert robert, it's good it see -- to see you. >> and coming up, it's a thanksgiving day tradition, which could mean a big weekend for shoppers and retailers. >> 55% of consumers will be out shopping on plaque friday. that's because 40% of consumers feel they can get the best discount at that time. >> i've seen you on video, you've been there for a long time monitoring everything going
down. what are the shoppers telling you? >> reporter: that's right. the woodfield mall in a northwest suburb of chicago. overnight and early morning hours you're seeing a lot of the millenn millennia. >> take a listen to what one shopper told us. >> we've gone out on black friday for every year for probably 20. but now that they open on thanksgiving, we don't come out as early. >>ets a tradition more than anything. had to get out here and do it. >> 136 million americans are expected to shop this weekend. the bulk of it is expected today on black friday, somewhere around $100 million.
those lines are blurring, as well as the line of when black friday starts. it's sort of like gray friday because so much does get pulled forward to thanksgiving. all in all, it becomes a very important weekend for retailers. some see 20% of their holiday sales coming from this weekend alone. >> let's talk about cyber monday. is that the way to wait for all the deals? >> not necessarily. cyber monday is supposedly will a will the of travel deals are coming out. starwood is slashing up to 50%, airfare is typically dropped this time of year for those months. so i'm going to be looking at travel deals on monday.
>> you did say december. there will be some to be had during the holiday season? >> if you know where you're going. it's worth checking out. not pressing go on the travel deals today. >> we hear all about these door buster items. what kind of value does that play into for the stores? they're going to lose money. >> it's p.r. they get on tv, they get to get their names out there as retail leaders. the retailers are in competition with each other and sometimes forget about the consumer. so, yeah, you can get a tv for $150 maybe. it's not going to be a great television, it's not high quality. really the door busters are just more for show. >> is it more electronics? >> 50% off ann taylor, 50% of gap. electronics are usually what we
lead with around black friday. it's what everybody wants. they want the iphones, they want the tvs. you can see big discounting because there are huge markups. >> the walmarts and jcpenneys, they are this the ones who have led all this? >> truly. and we're seeing some of the smaller mom and pops and specialty retailers saying we're not going to open on thanksgiving or on friday. those are the retailers who know their consumers and of maybe a different ilk. maybe they're spending more money but not shopping as much. it's a different customer for sure. >> how about smartphone apps? >> this is a really interesting year for that. we're seeing a lot of exclusive app-only deals. like amazon, for example, saying we're having 150 items
exclusively for our app users. we have target saying if you do downso there's this movement to go mobile. in fact, mobile is supposed to supersede laptop and tutsier browsing in shopping this year, if you can believe it. i bought yesterday a few items for my phone. you're sitting around watching tv, football, it's the easiest thing to have in your hand. >> several people have come forward in the hopes of adopting a baby left in a in a tiffity scene just outside of man heatan. he was placed in a manger outside the church in queens. surveillance video shows the mother on the security video of
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the threat level? do we know yet? >> alex, that's a bit of a mystery really. they're not telling us, the authority is simply not tell telling us what they know. otherwise they wouldn't have lowered the threat level from number four to number three. they are doing that while the two main suspects linked to the attacks are still on the run. but they seem to be confident enough not on to lower the threat alert in the brussels area but also to go on with a plan to open the match controversial. at that point open air street market, the big christmas market with 200 stores scattered all
across the city's center. right down here under our window, up to a half an hour ago, there were fences and police were checking the bags of people going into the market. well, those are gone as well. i suppose that's good news, alex. >> i suppose so. shoppers and certainly a presence of security, though that is an important point you just made. still to come, we'll go inside the factory of what dm has
wars" mania next month, toys like light sabers selling for upwards of $100 could end up giving black friday sales a big boost. in addition to "star wars" paraphernalia, lego blocks tops the toy list for boys, and for girls, it's barbie and anything "frozen," it seems. this is all according to a survey by the national retail federation. we're honored to have in studio, david brandon, chairman and ceo of toys "r" us. like you have time for this! we'll get you back out there, my heavens! >> exactly right. >> shopping lists are made up of a pope pe pre of things for all kits. >> yes, a lot of electronics, voice activation. it's really an interesting year. a little higher price points, but a lot of value for the money in terms of the technology. >> like this, the "paw patrol" paw patroller. i mean, what's the price point on something like this? >> from spin masters, it's $59.99. it's a lot of toy. it makes noises, folds up into various configurations. you can put all of your "paw
patrol" characters in there. this is a really hot item. anything "paw patrol" related seems to be doing well so far this season. >> and anything "star wars," r2-d2 related, including this robotic droid. this has a lot to it. >> he does a lot of things, pivots forwards and backwards, runs forwards and backwards, makes all the noises that r2-d2 does in the movie. it has a light that shines princess leia on to the wall. it's totally full of robotics. the biggest problem with the toy is i think mom and dad are going to want to play with it more. >> to your point, in my ear, she's saying can you turn it on, does it work? she's got a son -- >> we would need to move him all over the studio to make it work. >> and barbie, a classic, the saddle and ride horse. big. it's pretty big. >> yes, and it's a great example of how barbie's been around for decades and decades. you probably had a barbie. >> i did. >> and as the world changes and
young people want more interaction, more involvement, this barbie will actually jump up on that horse and ride across the room. so, it's a mechanical barbie, and that seems to be a bit of a wave of the future. >> i know you came on the job five months ago, but you hit the ground running when it comes to the holiday sales, much of what's in place, but how much of the success comes during this holiday time? >> it's hugely important to us. we're in the business 365 days a year. >> sure. >> but a disproportionate of our volume and profits comes from this period. and with plan a year in advance. many of the toys, you have to decide how much you want to buy and what you want to buy a year in advance and then the marketing is put behind it and now it's game time, so it will be interesting to see how it plays out. >> before i let you go, a lot of families out shopping, moms, dads, kids going, i want this, i want that! >> stores are very busy. in our times square store last night we had 2,500 people outside of the door waiting for it to open at 5:00.
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9-year-old tysean lee. in the next hour, police are expected to hold a press conference in the arrest of cory morgan who was questioned as a person of interest last week. also in chicago today, protesters plan to hold a massive black friday march through the high-end shopping area of the magnificent mile. that march is part of ongoing peaceful demonstrations by activists critical of law enforcement's handling of the investigation into the fatal police shooting of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. newly released police dash cam video from the scene of the shooting is raising fresh questions about the killing. joining me from chicago now, adam reiss. and adam, as we get started today, let's start with the arrest in the murder of that 9-year-old. a major breakthrough in the case, and we're finding out it's in retaliation for another killing? >> reporter: absolutely. this was a shooting, frances, that shocked this city, an execution, police called it. 9-year-old tyshawn lee lured into an alleyway near his house,
thinking he was going to play basketball, shot in the head and the back. now, police believe it was gang-related, possibly in retaliation for another shooting. police believe tyshawn's father was in a gang, and morgan's brother and mother had been shot. now, morgan had been arrested last week on unrelated gun charges. he actually made $1 million bail, was out on the street, but he has been rearrested and now charged in this murder. frances? >> and adam, based on where you are, that planned march over the deadly police shooting of a teen, you're there on the scene. it seems wet and rainy there, but i'm sure people will still come out for that. >> reporter: absolutely. it's still a little early. we expect them to start gathering in a couple hours. they're calling for economic justice on this black friday as people come out to shop on the magnificent mile, all along michigan avenue. they've got a lot of questions about that shooting -- why did it take so long for the arrest and charges for the officer? and why was the family paid $5
million before that video was even released? they're demanding a justice department investigation. they want an independent prosecutor to look into this, and they also want the state's attorney and the police superintendent to step down. frances? >> and adam, very quickly, in the past couple of nights, it seems like the protests have been fairly peaceful. do they expect each more crowds today, and do they expect it to go just as peacefully? >> reporter: it has been pretty peaceful the last two nights, tuesday and wednesday night. there was some little disturbances on wednesday night. some of the protesters pulled lights off of the christmas tree in millennium park here. there were four arrests on wednesday night. there were some arrests on tuesday night. the mayor has said he's open to this protest. he's happy to allow them to peacefully protest, but he does not want it to get violent. and of course, the police will be out here in force protecting those shoppers along michigan avenue. frances?
>> all right, we'll check back with you later on. adam reiss reporting for us in chicago. thank you very much. meanwhile, across the country right now, the black friday sales dash is in full force with millions of holiday shoppers looking for deep discounts, and many are noticing increased security. several stores opened on thanksgiving with many others opening early this morning for door-buster deals. the national retail federation estimates that nearly 100 million americans will be out shopping today, and overall this weekend, 136 million people are expected to head to the stores. well, that's compared to nearly 134 million shoppers over last year's black friday weekend. want to go now live to the atlantic station outdoor mall in atlanta and nbc's sarah dallof. doesn't seem like there are too many crowds there just yet, sarah. >> reporter: we are in a bit of a lull right now, frances. those door-busters at the big box stores, well, those happened early this morning, and now we're into the all-day deals. so, shoppers know they can sleep in a little bit, catch a nap if they were at those overnight
sales, and then come out and shop. here at some of these stores, we're seeing prices slashed as much as 50%, so there are definitely deals to be had, but overall, black friday sales are expected to be down nationwide about 2% this year. that's in part due to the popularity of cyber monday. that's expected to be up about 5% this year. and also due to the fact that some retailers began offering holiday deals well below this weekend. in fact, about 60% of shoppers say they've already gotten a start on their holiday gift lists. now, overall, holiday shopping is supposed to be up this year, about 3.7%, and that's going to bring in more than $630 billion on average, americans spending about $830 on holiday shopping. that is the most since 2007. the must-have items this year? well, as always, electronics, things like gaming systems and ipads are hot, as well as "star wars" toys. and for little girls, last year, you've got to remember, the thing to have was anything "frozen," all that "frozen"
merchandise. well, that is a thing of the past. this year, frances, barbie is back on top. >> i have to ask you, given this time, besides the shopping and the savings, there's also safety and security. have you noticed increased security there in that shopping area? >> reporter: we're definitely seeing more security guards out here on foot patrolling, chatting with shoppers, keeping an eye on things, but officials also say it's behind the scenes that a lot of the work is happening. we've heard of police stations tapping into surveillance video, other measures that they don't want to compromise by revealing to the public. they're also urging shoppers to do their part. if they see something, say something in effect here. so, as you're on the hunt for bargains, keep your eyes peeled for potential threats. >> sarah dallof reporting for us in atlanta, appreciate it. thank you very much. now to france, where a ceremony was held this morning to remember the victims of the horrific attacks that killed 130 people two weeks ago. president hollande took part along with his predecessor, nicolas sarkozy, and the families of loved ones of those
who died. hollande honored the victims, saying "it's because they represented life that they were killed, it is because they represented france that they were slaught yard, it's because they represented freedom that they were massacred." the press posted a picture showing the names of all 130 people in the shape of the eiffel tower. nbc's gabe gutierrez is live in paris with the latest. gabe, i can imagine a whole lot of raw emotion once again during that memorial. >> reporter: yeah, alex, it was very emotional. as you mentioned, president hollande saying that these victims were targeted because they represented freedom, and that's why they were massacred, as you mentioned. and francois hollande saying his country would do everything it could to destroy what he called an army of fanatics that was responsible. today hollande said that the entire world was in mourning. these victims were mostly in their 20s and 30s, young people, and some of the survivors that came to the memorial today did so in wheelchairs, some of them
seen publicly for the first time. i'm joined by clovis kisani, a journalist for "france 24." and he is one of the people throughout france that are trying to come to terms with what happened. clovis, you were here in this area two weeks ago. tell me, now that it's been two weeks, how tough has it been to move on? >> it's been pretty difficult. i was born and brought up in this neighborhood. i still live here. on the night of the attacks, i was supposed to be in the area where the cambodian restaurant got attacked. luckily, i didn't go there. i didn't get to the birthday party in time, but i was still in the area, and i found myself in a no-go zone, completely cordoned off by police, and i ran into a friend, thankfully, who was in a restaurant just around the corner, and we went inside the restaurant because i couldn't return home because of the police and because the gunmen were on the loose, and we had to hide in the kitchens, because basically, the owner of the restaurant got a phone call from the police, and it was a
traumatic experience. and two weeks on, to answer your question, it's pretty difficult. we are getting to terms with the whole situation, but as you can see, we still have people, despite freezing temperatures, people night and day here putting candles and flowers. it's emotional. >> reporter: and president hollande has urged people throughout france to display the flag, and indeed, throughout paris, we're seeing it displayed everywhere, draped in the windows of homes and in businesses. how unusual is that for the french people? >> well, it's quite common in the united states or even in great britain to show your flags and put them outside your houses and stuff, but here in france, it's not at all the case. we are seen as a proud people, sometimes a bit arrogant, us french, nationalistic, but we don't show the flags. i don't know why. maybe it's seen as too nationalistic here, but this time, in these difficult times, in the wake of these unprecedented attacks, people have just felt the need to show that they're proud to be french,
proud to be defending these values of -- spe [ speaking french ] and when president hollande suggested for people to show the flags, take them out on the streets on this very emotional and special day of mourning, well, people, regardless of whether they're left wing or right wing, decided it was the right thing to do, and that's why you've had these displays with french flags all over the place. >> clovis cosani, thank you for joining us, a journalist for "france 24" who lived through the attacks two weeks ago. the security situation here in paris is still ramping up, especially ahead of the u.n. climate conference next week. some 140 heads of state expected here. so, it certainly is a situation that is unfolding, but today a day to mourn the 130 victims of these attacks. back to you. >> finding that strength in the blue, white and red, especially on the day of those memorials. gabe gutierrez reporting for us from paris, thank you, appreciate it. here at home, heightened security at transit centers across the country, including
airports and train stations, as millions of americans head home for the thanksgiving holiday. want to check in now with new york's busy penn station and nbc's rehema ellis. it seems pretty calm and quiet so far. >> reporter: yeah, pretty quiet so far. traffic is picking up a little bit here in terms of the number of passengers who are entering penn station and those who are exiting, coming back from their holiday. what we're also seeing, and i think we have pictures of it to show you, is that we see security here as well. they are out in force, and they are the national guard, which is patrolling the penn station corridors here. there are also amtrak police who are out and patrolling the corridors as well. and people i talked to say once upon a time it made them a little nervous to see military-style personnel in a passenger transit station, but it makes them feel comfortable now in light of all of the things that have been happening around the world. it makes them feel more secure. it lets them know that the work
that authorities say that they have heightened security, they see it. they also tell us there are things you cannot see. passengers say that makes them feel comfortable, too, frances. >> certainly a comfort and need in the days to come, especially sunday when a lot of people will be headed back home. nbc's rehema ellis at penn station, thanks for the update. want to bring you developments now on the man who jumped over the white house fence. he will face criminal charges today, and now his stunt raises even more security concerns about the newly installed fence. we'll have a live report from the white house. that's next. plus, the building pressure on isis. russia says it is ready and willing to coordinate air strikes with the united states and france, but can vladimir putin be trusted? i'll talk live with a congressman who just returned from the middle east. and ben carson's surprise trip. the republican candidate is in jordan right now to meet with syrian refugees. the impact on the heated 2016 race. staying in rhythm...
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an afternoon court appearance expected today for the man who successfully jumped over the white house fence and prompted a nearly three-hour lockdown as the first family celebrated thanksgiving. joseph caputo was wearing an american flag and carrying a binder in his mouth yesterday when he landed on the white house grounds. well, he was immediately apprehended and taken into custody. nbc's kristen welker is live from the white house with new information about caputo and the charges he may face. and kristen, good thing that he didn't get very far, as we've seen in the past. >> reporter: that's right. according to one official, he only took a few steps before he was apprehended. nonetheless, this caught a lot of people off guard. of course, it came on thanksgiving. the first family celebrating their thanksgiving inside when he jumped over the fence. here's the very latest information. according to one secret service official, joseph caputo, 22 years old from stamford,
connecticut. as you point out, he will appear before a judge later today, expected to face charges of unlawful entry. i am told that more charges could be added. here's what happened, just to recap. this all started at about 2:45 yesterday. that's when he apparently draped himself in that american flag and said "let's do this." he jumped over the fence and was apprehended within just minutes. this is significant, though, because he is the first person to make his way over the fence since new spikes were added to the top of the fence, and he's really one of the few people to jump over the fence while the first family's inside. so, a lot of concern here at the white house and throughout washington. in fact, congresswoman eleanor holmes norton, he is a delegate from d.c., has said she wants to meet with secret service leadership early next week to get to the bottom of this. she says she's absolutely astonished. she thought that it was impossible to get over the fence, given those new spikes, so she wants to look into what other security measures might be necessary. the secret service still
investigating. one more point i'll make, frances. i asked one official earlier today what was in that binder that he had in his mouth. not clear. however, it has been determined that there was nothing that was dangerous in that binder. >> and of course, the question of what his goal was to begin with. i can't help but notice behind you there something we weren't supposed to see until next hour, the white house christmas tree arriving there on the grounds a little bit earlier. kind of nice, you know. the first family celebrated thanksgiving and the tree arrived today from pennsylvania is where it's coming from? >> reporter: that's absolutely right. this is one of the wonderful traditions here at the white house. the first family, the first lady, i should say, receives the christmas tree the day after thanksgiving every year. this time it is an 18.5-foot fraser fir grown by jay and glen bustard, hopefully i'm pronouncing that right, from lansdale, pennsylvania. and the first lady will be
receiving that tree officially within the next hour, joined, of course, by the first daughters. so, it's a fun tradition here and we will bring that to everyone live, frances. >> nice to see you, and ahead of the tree lighting next week. >> reporter: indeed. >> kristen welker, thank you very much. good to know that even with the tense moments yesterday, they're able to enjoy the lighter holiday moments here at the white house. thank you. >> reporter: great point, thanks. russian president vladimir putin says he is ready and willing to coordinate air strikes with the united states. he made the announcement following a meeting with french president hollande. the u.s. and russia so far have conversed about the air strikes over syria but haven't coordinated their air campaigns. they both are targeting isis but disagree on whether bashar al assad should be part of syria's future. joining me now, republican congressman from north caroli carolina's 9th district, robert pittinger, who recently returned from a trip to the middle east. congressman, i appreciate your being with us on this friday. >> good morning, frances. >> sure. now that you are back from that trip in egypt, saudi arabia and
afghanistan, talk a little bit about what you learned about those countries in this fight against isis that you didn't know before your visit. >> yeah, that's a very good question. i think it clearly, what president assisi said in egypt was that, yes, we do have a battle against isis, but it's broader than that -- al qaeda, al nusra, many other groups that we need to be aware of and be conscious of their objectives. we have, clearly, concerns with what's taking place in afghanistan with the taliban. the taliban, while we have been effective in training, equipping and advising the afghan army, they have immense resources through the poppy sale and through the heroin production, about $3 billion industry, about $200 million of which goes to the taliban each year. so, all these entities have enormous resources. my interest is really two-fold -- to address the terrorism financing component, to make sure that we can
intercept the capacities of these organizations, and also working with these countries on passports. there's only ten countries who cooperate with interpol today to track stolen passports. there's a large bank that interpol has, about 80,000 passports. and with only ten countries seeking to identify those stolen passports, it leaves us very vulnerable. we found that out with the malaysian airlines. we found that out with honduras last week with five stolen passports that they found. and certainly, we're vulnerable. and our objective through good intel, through interfacing -- intercepting the financing and these passports are three means that we have to be proactive and very vigilant on to make sure we protect our country. >> well, congressman, we need to talk about this, especially in that media today. vladimir putin agreed to play a larger role in the fight against isis. but when it comes to the united states and knowing, yes, there's an agreement on avoiding confrontations when it comes to air space but no coordination as
far as air campaigns, what can be trusted when it comes to russia and vladimir putin, if anything? >> well, we have to look at mr. putin in the context of his own objectives. i mean, he's there to protect and secure assad, and that's something that, frankly, goes against the wishes and the interests of our gulf state partners. they've all wanted him out. they've been very frustrated over the lack of commitment by this administration to take out assad and secure a plan that would. they will jump on board. they'll get involved if we have a plan, and we have not had a plan, we have not executed a plan to engage them, and i think it's critical that we do it. i sat down with the saudi leadership. they're very much willing to be engaged with us. they see us as their strongest partner. >> all right. >> but at the same time, they realize that russia is playing a very key role, and iran is playing a very key role, in igniting continued support for some of these terrorists. >> republican congressman robert
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trying to return home after the holiday or go out shopping. the midwest is in the path of a huge storm system. want to bring in msnbc meteorologist bonnie schneider, who's with me now. i kind of feel guilty. it's springlike for us here in new york and the northeast, but everywhere else it looks really bad. >> it sure is. we've been enjoying really mild temperatures, but there's nothing worse than driving on ice, and there's an ice storm warning in effect until noon tomorrow for lubbock, amarillo, not oklahoma city, but you're still under a winter weather advisory. and notice behind it we have a winter storm warning. so, that's where travel is treachero treacherous. take a look at it on radar, and you can actually see the areas in purple and pink here that indicates where the ice is, into wichita. we have seen icing. we've seen heavy rain working its way through oklahoma. and a lot of that moisture is funneling back on into missouri, so we're watching for a lot of the rain to work its way into this region. now, the risk for flooding remains well into dallas. we're looking for heavy rain to develop there, and there is a flash flood watch in effect for most of texas and northern
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presidential candidate ben carson is headed to jordan today, where he will meet with syrian refugees amid heated debate over whether the united states should allow refugees to settle here. carson has been criticized recently for his lack of foreign policy knowledge and experience, and he told "the new york times" before he left on his trip, "i find when you have firsthand knowledge of things, as opposed to secondhand, it makes a much stronger impression." joining me to talk about this is jackie kucinich, senior politics editor at "the daily beast." as always, good to see you here. you know, when ben carson has been asked about not being prepared when it comes to foreign policy, he actually admitted, you know what, i'm on a learning curve, kind of like a doctor continuing his education. so, given that, what does this trip signal to more of the establishment who might think he's not serious about foreign policy? >> well, he's had some fairly high-profile missteps when it comes to foreign policy, for
example, saying that the chinese were in syria. but this shows that he realizes there's a problem, and he's making moves to fix it. we'll see what happens, of course, because as we know, we've all covered many times when a politician goes abroad and everything goes horribly awry. so, we'll see what he can glean from this trip and how it goes, but on its face, it does show a willingness for him to learn and start to pick this up. but you do have to wonder why this wasn't a priority initially, why you know, the foreign policy-national security piece of this wasn't something he was studying up on before these debates where some of these missteps happened. >> well, do you think he would have taken this trip if he didn't get the heat from those comments, you know, comparing to the syrian refugees to the dogs? >> it's hard to say, honestly. i'm not in ben carson's head, but this -- i mean, this could help him sort of make that go away, because those comments, obviously were inappropriate. and ben carson's a very smart
man and he's someone, obviously, who wants correct this. >> all right, under the category that you just brought up of comments that are inappropriate, i want to turn to donald trump under fire for allegedly mocking a "new york times" reporter who has a disability, sergey cav lestie who wrote the article about 9/11 and the muslims cheering in new jersey in the wake of the attacks. well, he told "the new york times," the reporter did, that he once on a first-name basis with donald trump and he had met him dozens of times before, but trump maintains, i don't know who he is, i never met this reporter, and his actions were misread. so, not only that, trump says that he is the one who deserves an apology. and i know we've asked this many, many times as far as a line being drawn and trump crossing it, but in this case, has that happened? >> it's hard to say. i mean, making fun of someone because of a disability is never okay. i think most people learned that in elementary school and younger.
and certainly, trump is trying to dig his way out of that. i don't think his supporters care, but we've seen this from trump before. he wentmegyn kelly, he goes after people personally and makes it more about them and makes himself a victim in this and demands an apology. we've seen this before, and his supporters don't seem to mind, don't seem to care. this isn't going to really affect donald trump with them. >> yeah, it's tough. they weren't just words, they were also like a mimic, kind of impersonating, made it a little tougher, too. jackie kucinich, as always, thank you. >> thank you. and speaking of donald trump, his now-famous "make america great again" hat is the hottest accessory of the 2016 campaign season for some. msnbc's jacob soboroff had a sneak peek into the factory where those hats are manufactured. so, i'm kind of fascinated about what you've found here in that factory, jacob. >> reporter: it's pretty cool, frances. you know, the hats, i found out, are made right here in the los angeles area, so i took a trip down to the factory down in carson to check out those hats.
and given the fact that, according to a recent nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, 67% of latino voters said they very strongly dislike donald trump, who is making these hats may surprise you. i see them all over the place. has it been sort of constant order since this thing started? >> it has been constant, but like i said, it's a small portion of our business. >> reporter: how'd you get the trump gig? >> he's been a customer for ten years, and when they came to us earlier this year, they gave us a slogan, we created his personal hat, and just once he wore it, things took off. >> reporter: so, at a place where you've got 80% latino workforce, you've got a guy, trump, who's kind of controversial in the latino community. how'd you approach that with your workers? >> well, i basically told them up front that we were going to be doing this order, we're going to be working a lot of overtime, and we know that it is
controversial, but it's an order, and we would take any basic order to keep the work flow going. >> reporter: what is your family lineage, history? >> mexican. >> reporter: how about you? >> hispanics. we're all born here in the united states. >> reporter: when you hear you're going to make the hats for trump what was the first thought that went through your mind? >> more work for us. >> reporter: some of the stuff he's said has not been particularly nice to the latino community. when you guys hear some of that stuff, what do you think? >> i just try to ignore it. >> reporter: yeah. >> just work. >> reporter: trump says, "hispanics love me." is that true? >> no comment. >> reporter: no comment. how about you? >> no comment on that also. >> reporter: no comment on that one? do you have any comment? >> no, no comment. >> reporter: not on that one. would you say you're living the american dream? >> yes. why not? >> reporter: yes and no? >> yes, yes and no. >> reporter: one of donald trump's messages is, is he wants to bring business back to the
united states. how difficult is it to be in the garment business in america in southern california? >> it is extremely difficult. you know, our jobs have gone, obviously, overseas to asia. in the '90s when everybody left to china, we joined them, but at the same time, we kept our factory. a lot of our employees have worked for us since the beginning or for the last 20 years, and we've kept them going through the american-made products. >> reporter: if donald trump came here and wanted to see you guys making the hats, what would you say to the guy? >> can i take a picture with you? >> reporter: can i take a picture with you? do i look like trump? >> no. >> reporter: i look better than trump. i'll accept the compliment. the trump campaign has spent more than $270,000 at this hat factory making these hats, according to the latest campaign finance report. that is more money than the trump campaign has spent on anything else, save with two other campaign expenses, one with an apparel company and the
other to fund the trump jet. brian kennedy, the president of the company who i talked to in the piece, he says all of his workers in the factory have legal immigration status, are all documented, and he told the "l.a. times" that this order has resulted in lots of overtime for the workers. so, the workers and owner of the factory, despite their politics are grateful for the business. i reached out to the trump campaign and have not heard back yet. >> it is business. supply and demand. and as long as he ee 's in the , there will be that demand. jacob soboroff, thank you. turkey's prime minister says his country will work with moscow to ease tensions after a russian bomber was shot down earlier this week. however, the turkish president said that turkey will not apologize for the incident, insisting it was defending its own air space. and this morning he warned russia against retaliation, saying it's "playing with fire." cnbc's jeffgeoff cutmore has be following this from moscow.
they say they don't want the situation to escalate, but neither is willing to back down here. so, where is there even ground for both sides, if at all? >> reporter: well, let's just talk about the allegations that have been traded at this point. and clearly, the language has been very undiplomatic, president putin suggesting that the turkish have been taking isis oil. president erdogan turning around and saying, no, we think your ally, syria, is the one that's been taking the isis oil. and so, the spats continue to get traded here, but it is worth pointing out that against the backdrop of the anger over this downed aircraft, both sides have too much to lose for this to go very much further. 4 1/2 million russians took their vacation in turkey last year, whilst the turks spent $25 billion on russian oil and gas this year.
so, clearly, if there is a significant falling out in economic terms, neither side would benefit from that. so, there has been an olive branch extended. turkish president erdogan has said that he would like to sit down in paris on monday with president putin to try and address this issue. we will just have to see whether that meeting takes place. back to you. >> we'll see what happens in that meeting and if the tensions continue to escalate there. geoff cutmore in moscow, thank you for the update. up next, we'll go live to where shoppers have been lining up since yesterday morning. plus, online black friday sales already breaking records. why your phone may save you the most this year.
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hopefully, vizio, samsung, for my daughter for college. >> some roller skates for myself and some pajamas for my son and some beanies and some socks and a big old bone for my dog. >> i'm shopping for some of my son's outfits, some winter stuff, you know, sales. i'm having a great time. >> reporter: now, in addition to those tvs and other electronics like apple ipads, we're seeing a lot of folks, a lot of popularity around toys, particularly "star wars," a lot of the "star wars" branded toys really getting a lot of attention at locations like this one ahead of the film's release later this month. now, target as well as several other retailers starting to roll outdoorbuster deals earlier in the week. it's also offering free shipping on everything again this year and perhaps is a reason it's not as crazy here today as you might have expected with previous black fridays. back to you. >> you can do it on your phone or computer, that changes things.
morgan brennan in jersey city, thank you very much. hopefully, you can do some shopping for yourself. we also want to talk about what's driving holiday weekend sales, and bring in hitha herzog with h-squared research. good too s see you here. >> you, too. >> you were in paramus, new jersey, yesterday. and it's interesting, you were like, what? you're having flashbacks from 2010, where it was insane on black friday. >> exactly. morgan was talking a little bit about the store traffic, and when i was there last night -- now, i went towards the later part of the night, so i wasn't there right when the doors opened, but i was there around 7:30, 8:00 p.m. and stayed until about 12:00, 1:00 a.m. and the amount of traffic compared to when i was there five years ago was like night and day. so, people feel now, because online spending is expected to be up between 6% and 8%, that they don't need to go out to the stores. walmart had one door-buster. security there said it was very calm, people got their stuff and left. a lot of the inventory was still
there, so people were able to go in. and there were not any lines at checkout. before, two or three, even five years ago, it was a frenzy. it was like "hunger games." >> well, it's so funny, too, because everybody thinks, okay, black friday is where you go with your families, stake out, make a whole strategy, wait in line, but a lot of people are waiting for cyber monday. but i was seeing some deals and flash sales saying, hey, it's black friday/cyber monday sales right now. >> right. so, the national retail federation reported that 57% of people, mostly driven by millennials, started their shopping before black friday. and part of the reason why has to do with the fact that all of these stores were sending out these deals via your e-mail, via your mobile phone, texting you even. >> i get notifications on mine that certain stores where i sign up for e-mail. >> right. >> even on my smartphone. it's not even a text. just like a quick notification, a push notification. >> exactly, a push notification. so, what happens is retailers know they want to get millennial shoppers, they want to get everyone, really, in there, and
they're making it easier to shop online. so, they are partnering with people where you can charge via online, via mobile payment devices like paypal, to go ahead and sit there and pay while you're in your pajamas drinking coffee or having a post thanksgiving drink. >> trust me, after two or three, you'll be shopping a lot more -- >> that may be dangerous, actually. probably not a great idea. >> interesting, but it will be interesting to see how this turns out. this is just the start of it and the sales are out there. >> right. >> we'll see how people shop. >> and they're going to get better through the holiday season. >> so, should people wait? should people say, you know what, that may be marked down even more? >> so, quickly, if you want the newer merchandise, today is the day to go out and get it because they're trying to get you into the stores and on the site. if you're willing to get maybe a later generation of an electronic or sweaters, for example, wait until later because stores are going to want to clear that out of their stores. >> oh, yeah. >> it will go on massive discount. >> and what i always tell my husband when i come home with bags, it's not what you spend, it's what you save. >> right, exactly.
>> that sounds a little bit better. hitha herzog, thank you very much. i appreciate it, with h-squared research. still ahead, the hot holiday toy that officials say could be used as a weapon. we're talking about drones. officials are warning sellers and shoppers of possible dangers to commercial aircraft, but how big is that threat? up next, i'll talk live with a 32-year-old veteran of the faa. ok, we're here. here's dad. mom. the twins. aunt alice... you didn't tell me aunt alice was coming. of course. don't forget grandpa. can the test drive be over now? maybe just head back to the dealership? don't you want to meet my family? yep, totally. it's practically yours, but we still need your signature. hurry in for great deals all black friday weekend on select new volkswagen models during the sign- then-drive event. they come into this iworld ugly and messy.
there's a new push to have drones registered with the federal government, and it is expected a million drones will be sold to consumers during the holiday shopping season, but if the registry is created, the faa will have to convince prior owners to sign up. steven wallace joins me now, former director of the faa's office of accident investigation, also a licensed commercial pilot. thank you for your time as we talk about this. >> good morning, frances. >> good morning. the sales of drones increases, i see ads on fliers from just
regular stores. how does regulation keep up with that? >> well, it's a challenge, and the faa has a task force to present a report on the best way to do this, a task force that includes representatives of even people like some of the stores you were just showing and best buy and drone manufacturers and amazon, google, all kinds of high-tech people. so, they have recommended, and the faa's kind of fast-tracking a new rule that will require a very, very simplified registration, kind of online, go online and register it, and if you buy ten of them, you just get one registration number and you can put them on all of your drones. so, it's -- and it will cost either nothing or very little. so, they're doing a very simple registration procedure just so they can keep track of who's operating them. >> but it seems that would be an optional thing. how do you force somebody who bought a drone to go online and register? and for someone who bought one in the past, how would that work for registering?
>> as far as buying them in the past, i would point out that we have a model airplane community. there are groups that have been flying remote-controlled aircraft for years before we started calling them drones, and very responsibly with associations that have clubs, and mostly, they operate them very responsibly. the rule will have a phase-in period. i don't know what it is yet, during which team those who are already out there will have to comply. will we get 100% compliance right away? i doubt it. >> yeah, given that, how do you reinforce it? >> well, at least they will be able to know whose drone they have if one crashes or is caught operating in some place that it shouldn't operate. of course, the concern is about airliners, where we have achieved an incredibly high safety record, and we've done that in part by kind of always assuming the worst-case
possibilities and by not experimenting, sort of wait and see what happens with an airliner. so, that's where the faa is now, i think. they're assuming the worst case, you know, what if one of these drones strikes the windshield or goes in the jet engine. and they're not going to experiment with passengers. they're trying to get ahead of this, and it's a considerable challenge. >> whether somebody cites privacy or something else, you can imagine there will be people kind of resisting that. but remains to be seen, as we're seeing if that regulation actually comes to fruition. steven wallace, thank you for your time. >> thank you. there is much more ahead here on msnbc. we're following breaking news in chicago, where the police superintendent is about to speak in just moments about the arrest in the murder of a 9-year-old boy. this as clergy and protesters vow to disrupt black friday shopping in chicago today over new revelations from the deadly police shooting of a black teenager. also developing now, new details on the security scare at the white house.
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expected to hold a press conference on the arrest of cory morgan who was questioned as a person of interest in the case last week. meanwhile, as we speak, protesters are gathering for a massive black friday march through the shopping district known as magnificent mile. the protests are a part of ongoing demonstrations against perceived problems in the chicago police department, problems that some community leaders say are directly to blame for the fatal shooting of laquan mcdonald. joining me is adam reiss. i want to talk about the arrest in the murder of that 9-year-old boy, tyshawn lee, and this in retaliation for another killing of the suspect's family? >> reporter: that's correct. they believe that's the case, that tyshawn lee, a 9-year-old, was executed, lured into an alleyway because of some retaliation in between two gangs and shot in the face and in the back. they believe that morgan was retaliating because his brother
and his mother had been shot. he, as you mentioned earlier, was arrested last week on unrelated gun charges. he was out on $1 million bail. he has since been rearrested. and as you mentioned, that press conference should be coming up momentarily. frances? >> also making news out of chicago, the scene of a big planned march. it seems like it's still raining, still wet out there, but i can imagine these crowds will grow, especially when it comes to disrupting holiday shopping on this black friday? >> reporter: we have seen some of the leaders come out. reverend jackson is here already. we do expect hundreds of protesters. they're calling for what they say is economic justice. they want the shoppers here on black friday coming down michigan avenue to feel their pain. they've got lots of questions about what happened in the mcdonald shooting. why was there no audio on any of those dash cams? why did it take so long, 400 days to charge officer van dyke and why was the family paid some
$5 million before that video was released? they believe there's been a cover-up, not only at city hall, but at the police department. so, they're calling for a justice department investigation, a special prosecutor, and they want the police superintendent and the state's attorney, both of them to step down. frances? >> certainly, we're seeing increased heat on the police department, especially in light of that dash cam video in the death of laquan mcdonald. but now, another focus as well, in addition to that, the police department is also expected to speak publicly, as we were just talking about, in the death of 9-year-old tyshawn lee's killing. so, they're going to have that press conference any moment. of course, when it happens, we'll bring it to our viewers. but i can imagine, if there are questions to be asked from the press that they will also delve into, you know, the swirling controversy over how the police department handled laquan mcdonald's death as well. >> reporter: absolutely. there's a lot of heat not only on the police department, but of
course, on city hall, mayor rahm emanuel under a lot of pressure. a lot of calls for him to fire the superintendent, garry mccarthy. this city has seen a number of shootings recently. this particular shooting of 9-year-old tyshawn lee was particularly heinous, unspeakable. a number of terms being used to describe this execution, they're calling it, of this 9-year-old boy. and now you have this shooting of laquan mcdonald, another what some are calling another execution. and they're wondering what's going on at city hall, what's going on at the police department. and that's why they're out here protesting. they want justice, but they also want a bit of accountability. they want to know why this city is, you know, there's so many shootings here and nothing's been done about it. >> mm-hmm. certainly, what we've heard over and over again, this not one isolated incident, but indicative of the culture there of the police department in chicago. thank you very much, adam reiss. we'll check back with you when it comes to the protests, when it comes to the police
conference from garry mccarthy on tyshawn lee's shooting death. but for now, i want to bring in civil rights attorney john burress. as we're hearing about this, certainly a lot of tension in chicago here. so much to cover, but when it comes to that, and it seems like there is a head here on the mistrust, on that culture of mistrust between the community and the police department, only adding to the unrest when it comes to both of these high-profile shootings. >> well, absolutely. the issue around the police and the mistrust that's there, that's an ongoing-type problem, and it's only fueled and becoming more heightened when you have a situation where you have an outrageous shooting that occurred and then a year, almost over a year later, that it comes to light as to the circumstances surrounding it. that's the kind of thing that makes people believe that there's an ongoing issue of cover-up, protection of the police, no accountability, no transparency. and in a case like this, it obviously had to go to city hall as well as the state's attorney, because each of them had this
information very early after the shooting. so, the community should be concerned about why this matter took so long to uncover. you backdrop against this about the ongoing issue of violence in the black community, black-on-black-type crimes, people are concerned about that when you have over 400 shootings in the course of a year. there's a sense that the police are not doing what they can to prevent that kind of activity from taking place. so, you really do have this divide between the african-american community and the police and a lack of trust. and when you have the kind of incidents that are taking place, it only fuels and exacerbates that kind of mistrust. so, and in chicago, having been a prosecutor there and i looked at police issues myself there, i understand that it's very, very difficult to get the police department to want to prosecute or even come down on their own officers as well as getting city hall to also come down. so, the community is the one that suffers because you have the political process that is involved between the city
attorney, the city hall as well as the police department. so, it's understandable why you have this substantial mistrust that exists. >> and it is the reason why we're seeing those protests the past couple of nights culminating in today as well. i want to ask you, especially when it comes to the original video that was released after the officer, van dyke, was indicted, but there were also additional dash cam videos that were released that a lot of people say leaves more questions than answers as well. do you think that we would be at this point if that video didn't exist or any of the videos didn't exist, even though they didn't have audio? >> no, we will not be at this point here, having been involved in these kinds of cases. without a video, there would be no prosecution, because the officer would have a statement. there's no way to contradict it. clearly, there would have been a civil place that would have taken place, but it would not have taken place in the manner which it did and which was kind of secret and no civil case having taken place. dash cameras, video cameras, shoulder cameras are
extraordinarily important in modern-day policing as well as helping the community understand what really happens. it doesn't necessarily answer all the problems because we obviously have issues around the location and the directions and et cetera, but it certainly helps to minimize the cover-up that normally can exist in police cases. so, in that instance, it's a very valuable tool, and without it, many cases would not get prosecuted or get any accountability. here, it's in your face. you have to account for this, you have to -- particularly when there were a number of officers on the scene and they did not shoot. and that becomes very, very important, how why one officer would shoot 16 times and the other officers on the scene don't shoot at all. that clearly suggests -- and it was kind of covered up in a way that nobody came forward, because on that particular day, there should have been an investigation, and immediately, this officer should have been arrested or should have been fired immediately, once you saw that video camera. >> all of that coming into question, pointing at the election of rahm emanuel, also
the lawsuit there, the city settlement with the family of laquan mcdonald also adding to those questions as pell wp john burris, thank you for the perspecti perspecti perspective. >> thank you. developing now, the holiday shopping season officially under way as consumers clamor for the black friday deals and many retailers are increasing security following the terrorist attacks in paris. [ cheering ] increasing number of shoppers got a head start by hitting the stores on thanksgiving with many retailers opening late yesterday and staying open overnight. >> we're starting early this time. might as well, you know? early bird specials. >> three of one kind of laptop and one of every other kind of laptop that i thought was at the right price. >> let's go live to the atlanta station outdoor mall in atlanta. sarah dallof, it was maybe a little bit of a lull this hour, sarah. >> reporter: a little bit of a lull. that would be accurate to say,
frances. you know, those door-buster deals at the big box stores, those were early this morning or last night, and the deals go all day today so shoppers can kind of take it at their own pace, wake up, have a leisurely breakfast and then come down here to holiday shop. some stores here slashing merchandise up to 50%. black friday sales, however, across the nation expected to be down a bit this year, down about 2%, and that's due to a number of factors, including that retailers actually began offering deals much earlier this year. they've been going all month. in fact, some 60% of shoppers say they have already started to buy. they started well before this holiday weekend. another big reason, cyber monday growing in playwrighopularity. 60% of consumers say they plan to shop on monday. contrast that with 50% of shoppers here on black friday. overall, holiday shopping expected to be up. however, gathering in about $630 billion. >> all right, sarah. talk a little bit about when it
comes to shopping, there is also -- you know what, we're going to leave you for now and go to chicago, where a press conference is going on with the police superintendent, this involving the arrest in the murder of 9-year-old tyshawn lee. officials are speaking. let's listen. >> that is bringing this case to fruition. and a couple of the investigators and team, as i said, a lot of them are upstairs. they would much rather be doing their work than standing here, quite frankly. this is a crime that shook our city, and quite frankly, as i talked about it, it was an act of barbarism, the assassination of a 9-year-old child as a gang retaliation to get back at his father. tyshawn lee was failed on many, many levels, but at the end of the day, our detectives were unrelenting in their pursuit of justice. i can't tell you how hard they worked. and after conducting a thorough investigation into this
unfathomable crime, as i've described it, that was both targeted and calculated, they are bringing this case to conclusion. there's still an awful lot of work to do on this case, but we've obtained charges against cory morgan, 27-year-old from lansing. mr. morgan was charged with first-degree murder as the result of an arrest warrant based upon, really, two things -- community assistance and intelligence and incredibly hard work by our detectives to develop evidence that supports the charges that we're able to bring forward. morgan was in violation of a bail bond at the time he was taken into custody. and obviously, you're going to have a lot of questions about the investigation, but there's still a lot of work to do. i want to highlight the background of this individual. as i told you, when we solve this case, we're going to find an individual with an extensive, violent criminal history who
likely should not have been on the streets. that's the way it happens almost every single time. corey morgan is a documented gang member, a convicted felon, and as you know, we picked him up just a couple of weeks ago with yet another firearm. so, he has a pending gun arrest along with a history. of violence. and i can't tell you how hard and how involved these detectives have been in this ca case. i came down a couple times to visit with them, and quite frankly, their spirit never wavered, their confidence that they were going to solve this case. there's an awful lot of work that we still have to do, and what i will tell you is that we know that there were three individuals involved in this, at least three individuals, let's put it that way. one is in custody right now on an unrelated charge, and we're confident that he's not getting out any time soon, and there is a third person that we're going to reveal to you now, a male
named kevin edwards is the third person who is wanted in connection with this heinous crime. mr. edwards, we've been looking for him for quite some time. we have photographs that we are going to distribute to you. i'm going to turn it over to the chief of detectives, dean andrews, and then we're going to hear from the sergeant who supervised the investigation, and then i'll come back up and we'll take your questions, okay? dean? >> so, one of the things we're going to do and provide for you today is kind of a recap and a timeline of the investigation and what got us here today. before we do that, i want to thank the detectives, the supervisors involved, and everyone that worked on this case. their service, their professionalism, their integrity was just exemplary. they worked literally 24 hours, seven days a week, never wavered, and all of our cases are important, extremely important to us. this one was a little bit different.
it's truly an act of barbarism. it's a 9-year-old boy that was targeted and executed. police officers have families as well. they have feelings as well, and this one was a little bit different, and i just -- i truly want to highlight their professionalism, their integrity, their dedication, and i mean, they went days and days and days without sleep. so, with that, actually, i'm going to introduce sergeant wills velar to provide a timeline and recap of the investigation that got us here today. will? >> s-v-i-l-a-r. >> thank you, first name? >> will. william. i don't think anybody wants to be here today talking about the murder of a 9-year-old. unfortunately, we were tasked to take care of this investigation, and the people standing behind me, the people upstairs and some conscientious members of the community came forward to assist us in this investigation. there are people that understand that when you have a bad element
in your neighborhood, you don't run from your neighborhood, you get rid of that element. and because of that, we were able to clear this case. it started in the alley on the afternoon of november 2nd, and basically from that day on, we developed leads through interviews, through people coming in, both here and the suburbs. we developed leads that led to the vehicle, which eventually led to the individuals that we've identified. one of them is charged today. that's a good start. we have a warrant on kevin edwards and we have a third person that we're hoping we can develop more on and charge them as well. >> thanks, will. >> that's it. >> one of the things that i think you should know is that we got an awful lot of intelligence from the community. this was very clearly not a case of no snitching, but there was a lot of fear, which is completely understandable. if you have a monster who's willing to assassinate a 9-year-old, what is that person likely to do if they know that
somebody is cooperating with the ca case, detectives working on that particular murder? so, that's something that if there is a positive in this, maybe that's something where we're going to start to turn a corner. the community was very helpful in this. and fortunately, over time, by putting together some incredible work, our detectives have been able to make this case. questions? [ everyone talking at once ] >> can you talk a little bit about any of the retribution factor between this person's family and tyshawn's family? can you just delve into that a little bit more? >> well, actually, i think we might be able to touch on another case we haven't cleared yet, though, right? >> we're making a lot of progress. >> there's a number of events that precipitated this particular murder. a couple of them are murders, a couple of them are nonfatal shootings. and i really don't want to reveal too much on that because we're getting close to solving a number of those, and we don't want to jeopardize it right now.
i apologize, okay? >> what role did you know corey morgan played in this, and what about kevin edwards? >> well, it's a little bit -- i don't want to say unclear, but it depends on who's speaking, who did what. so, at this point, i don't think we want to reveal any of that, right? there were three people. we're pretty certain, acting in concert, let's put it that way. who drove the car, who was on the scene, who pulled the trigger is all being worked on to delineate it, but we do know, in fact, that these are the individuals who were involved in this. >> did one lead the victim into the alley and the other two were involved? >> do you want to -- what have we got? >> there was -- >> he was definitely lured from the park where he was playing basketball with some friends. i guess that's the best way to describe it. >> can you describe the
background? what was the beef between the families? >> this goes back to a number of violent episodes, including a murder, at least -- actually, two murders. two murders that we know of. this was the third murder that we know of that we're able to identify in a series of events. >> the gentleman, the second one who's in custody but not yet charged, what is he being held on and what is his name? >> he was arrested for a gun charge, surprisingly, right? there's gun charges in each one of these individuals' backgrounds, which is why you hear me speaking about this all the time. until such time as gun offenses are treated as violent crime in the state of illinois, we're not going to get sentencing that's going to keep these individuals in custody and dissuade them from carrying those guns, which will hopefully dissuade them from killing people. >> have you recovered a gun, and if so, can you tell us any -- [ inaudible ] >> we have not recovered what we
believe to be the murder weapon in this case. we recovered at least two guns in our pursuit here. >> you first questioned corey a couple weeks ago. what changed between the first questioning and now? >> well we didn't question him, and it's been reported we questioned him. no, he came in the first time with his attorney. he was not questioned, and he was released. he was never taken into custody. second time he was arrested for the gun charge. he didn't make any statements, to my knowledge, right? is that right, will? >> correct, sir. >> yeah, he did not make any statements. so, people are saying that we've repeatedly questioned him. no, we have not. >> are you saying that the guns that were retrieved from that unrelated charge are not connected to this in any way? >> it doesn't appear. there's not a ballistics match on those guns, right, will? >> that's correct. >> if i'm saying something wrong, you've got to hit me. >> you say there were three people involved. was there only one gunman or did more than one person fire? >> no, we believe it's only one person fired. all the casings came from the same weapon, we believe. >> how are you able to connect
him to the actual murder? >> a number of different ways. there's forensic evidence that we've recovered, which i'm not going to discuss, as we tell you constantly, we don't like to jeopardize cases by giving you what the evidence is, but there is forensic evidence that's being collected. there were witness i.d.s of individuals. >> you've been listening to members of the chicago police department talking about the arrest that has been made in connection to the murder of 9-year-old tyshawn lee in chicago. the man they have in custody, under arrest in that killing is corey morgan. police calling the killing of the 9-year-old an assassination. they said that he was lured from a nearby park where he was playing basketball into an alleyway near his grandmother's house where police say corey morgan was involved in shooting the fourth grader several times, multiple times at close range, targeted in what they call a gang-related retaliation killing of the suspect's brother and also the mother of the suspect. they also said that there are
two other suspects who are wanted in this killing, one who is already in custody on an unrelated charge and another who is out there, and they've issued a warrant for kevin edwards. certainly new developments here as now the suspect in the shooting death of 9-year-old tyshawn lee is in custody. i want to bring in attorney john burris. john, as you were hearing and listening to this press conference, of course, chicago really making a lot of news, especially with the protests that we're seeing there in the murder of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald, but the focus of the police department today is releasing this video in what they call an assassination, execution of this 9-year-old boy, and talking about the violence, the gang violence there on the streets of chicago. >> yeah, it's kind of -- i'm sure it's painful for everyone to understand and appreciate that that kind of violence can take place in a community, particularly a situation where you would retaliate against a 9-year-old boy who is basically
innocent and being caught up because of other family kind of issues. i think the most important thing as i heard it was the community support, the willingness to come forward and give leads. that's something that does not typically happen, but this case was so outrageous in terms of this 9-year-old that the community itself would not stand this conduct, and they came out and they supported the police in their efforts. actually, that's the kind of effort you need in communities. you need the police and the community to be on the same page, particularly if you want to fight crime on a real high level, that can happen. but on the other hand, if you have brutality-type cases out there, my experience is, is that the police, if they engage in that kind of conduct, the community does not want to support them. and that causes crime to be unsolved in situations where it could if the relationships were better. this is a situation where the community just rose up and said we're not going to take it and we're going to be helpful, even knowing that there's a possibility of retaliation that could occur. so, in that sense, it's a very
positive sign there in chicago. >> something they need with the police department under so much criticism and heat. civil rights attorney john burris, thank you for coming back with us and providing that perspective after the police department spoke. thank you. >> thank you. want to switch gears now to the campaign trail where donald trump remains under fire this morning, this time for allegedly mocking the physical condition of "the new york times" investigative reporter sergey kovaleski. >> now the poor guy, you've got to see this guy. i don't know what i said, i don't remember! he's going, like, i don't remember. maybe that's what i said! >> kovolesky has a condition that limits mobility in his arms and recently has vocally pushed back against trump after the candidate started using a 14-year-old article written by kovalesky to support his assertions that muslims celebrated in the streets after the attacks on september 11th. trump maintains that he wasn't making fun of kovolesky's condition tweeting, "i do not
know the reporter for "the new york times" or what he looks like. i was showing a person groveling to take back a statement made long ago." meantime, ben carson will arrive in jordan today to meet with syrian refugees. he strongly opposes any syrian refugees coming to the united states but has recently been criticized for his lack of foreign policy credentials. well, he told "the new york times" before his trip, "i find when you have firsthand knowledge of things as opposed to secondhand, it makes a much stronger impression." joining me to discuss is former white house aide to george h.w. bush, reverend joe watkins, and democratic strategist david goodfriend. both of you, appreciate you being with me. we start with you, reverend watkins. one iowa republican told "politico," "i remain skeptical that donald trump's organization could turn out enough supporters today to win. cruz has been building and continues to build a solid organization." well, we've seen this, especially when it comes to iowa and polling there, and donald trump's. is this the start? all of the other stuff that he
said in the past didn't seem to matter, didn't seem to hurt him. is this the start of that? >> i don't think that this is going to hurt donald trump. i think what a lot of voters are worried about right now is the issue of terrorism, given what happened in paris just a couple weeks ago, and the fact that donald trump is taking such a strong stance on this terrorism issue only galvanized his support. he's i think leading by something like 24% of the other candidates with regards to how he would handle terrorism among current republican voters in the primary. so, i don't think this hurts him in the long term. i mean, this is more free publici publicity, publicity that he doesn't have to pay for. it keeps him in the news. and at the end of the day, as long as he stays strong on the issue of terrorism, he's going to maintain his lead. >> but when it comes to the establishment here, and given the latest comments out of many, is there a worry that when it comes to primary voters that this is actually sticking? this is resonating with them. >> well, it is -- what's
sticking with them is the fact that donald trump is unscripted. and in a year when people are angry at elected officials and feel that a lot of elected officials haven't been particularly effective in getting things done, they're willing to listen to somebody who's unscripted, who's outside of the process and who has success in business and who has strong ideas and isn't afraid to share them, and that's why he's leading. that's why right now he's really resonating with these primary voters. >> all right, david, i want to bring you into this. >> yes, please. >> especially since we're looking -- i want to talk about ben carson, but when you hear about that knowing, you know what, if it hans happened before with how many comments before, is it not going to happen now? >> first of all, happy thanksgiving to my friend, joe watkins. >> happy thanksgiving, david. my man, my man. >> listen, i think we're dancing around the real suggest here, which is that donald trump is a pathological liar, and i invite anybody from donald trump's campaign to debate me on that. i think it speaks for himself,
pathological behavior. when he's caught not having the facts in order, he attacks, as if there's something wrong with the person who would dare question his recitation of what happened. donald trump is not only deliberately lying, i think he convinces himself that what he says is true, so he becomes bellicose at the mere suggestion that you would -- and listen, republican voters, don't forget, the vast majority of republican voters do not support donald trump. he has a plurality, yes, but not a majority. so, i want to be careful not to make too much out of this. >> so, who are those people? you're saying he's a pathological liar, these are lies, simply, this is what he's serving, in your words, a plate of lies, and it's being bought, it's being served? >> oh, yeah. listen, there have been great pathological liars throughout history who get great followings, adolf hitler, joseph stalin. trump fits into that category. to say a big lie and prey on people's fears, i'll get enough people to cheer for me that i'll become a player and use it.
i'm not saying he's dumb. i think he's smart. but i think he's a pathological liar who falls in that tradition of leaders who stand up and say the big lie in order to prey on people's feelings, and that's how they get power. i think it's dangerous, but listen, i'm a hillary clinton supporter. i would love nothing more than to watch hillary clinton beat donald trump in a general election. i think she will. but let's be clear about what's going on here, this is not about "the new york times," this is not about him mocking a reporter. this is the behavior of a pathological liar who when called on it attacks. that's what they do. >> it doesn't seem to hurt him, hasn't yet, and we'll see if it does. to both of you, david goodfriend and joe watkins. i wish we had more time to talk about ben carson, making a surprise trip to jordan to visit with syrian refugees. but another time. i appreciate it. >> thank you. >> thanks so much. still ahead, breaking news, a sixth suspect charged in the terror attacks that killed 130 people in paris. we'll get the latest on that in a live report after this break. want bladder leak underwear that moves like you do?
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of belgium. a federal prosecutor there confirms that police have picked up a new suspect and charged him with terrorism. claudio is following this from brussels. what can you tell us in light of the threat level being lowered? >> reporter: the office just released a statement saying they arrested a man here in brussels in the capital city yesterday, and he was charged -- and let me read it to you -- with terrorist murders and participation in the activities of a terrorist organization. very specific there, of course, alex. they do not mention whether this is in connection in any way with the terror attacks in paris, but if so, if that would be confirmed, then he will be the sixth suspect who's been charged with terrorism since the investigation began after the terror attacks here in belgium, alex. >> and claudio, give us up to date, they made this arrest, but still no progress or no word in this massive manhunt for salah
abdeslam and also abrini, who's still out there. >> reporter: yes, well, they're still hunting for both of them. well, of course, salah and solemn -- mohammed abrini was seen with abdeslam when he was in france, seen on camera with him and also believed to be on the run with him possibly. well, the fact they are arresting these people, it seems like it gives an indication that the authorities are getting close to them. well, that is what we think, simply because they have lowered the terror threat alert yesterday, anyway, even if they haven't found the two fugitives. and on the day when they have arrested yet another suspect and charged them with terrorism. well, that will have made sense, but clearly, they know something that we don't, alex. >> certainly has got to be reassuring for the people in brusse brussels, as we see behind you, claudio, with the holiday christmas markets all up and more crowds coming out during
that. claudio lavanga, thank you for the update. now to paris, where president hollande led a ceremony today to remember the 130 people killed during the terrorist attacks two weeks ago. ♪ >> that ceremony included the reading of the names of the victims as well as the singing of the french national anthem. and people across france marked the day with an unusual show of patriotism, flying the flag and displaying the nation's colors. nbc's gabe goout residenutierre paris on a raw, emotional day for french who came out, some for the first time. >> reporter: yeah, that's right, frances, it was a very emotional ceremony. french president francois hollande spoke about the victims. he says that they were targeted because they represented freedom, and he vowed that
france would do everything it could to destroy what he called the army of fanatics that was responsible for this. he said that today the entire world was in mourning. this, again, a very emotional ceremony. more than 1,000 people were there. it included the families of some of the victims as well as survivors, some of them that were seen publicly for the first time and some of them actually went to the ceremony in wheelchairs. now, the victims were for the most part very young, most of them in their 20s and 30s. the youngest victim 17 years old. now, here in france, there's been a surge in patriotism. the french president urging people throughout this country to display their flag in homes, in businesses, and indeed, we've seen many flags here throughout paris, and it really is an emotional time here as this country ramps up security as well ahead of the u.n. climate conference, which is set to begin on monday, frances. >> all right, gabe gutierrez from paris, thank you for the
update. russian president vladimir putin says he is ready and willing to coordinate syria air strikes with the united states. putin made the statement following a meeting with french president hollande. and to this point, the u.s. and russia have communicated so as to avoid confrontations in the air space over syria but have not coordinated their air campaigns. both countries say they are targeting isis, but of course, there's the disagreement on whether bashar al assad should be part of syria's future. joining me now is democratic congressman from california, brad sherman. congressman, thank you for being with us. we know that vladimir putin agreed yesterday to play a larger role in the fight against isis, but there's that coordination there that is lacking, especially when it comes to the air campaign. can vladimir putin be trusted in this fight along with us? >> you can't trust putin, you can't trust an awful lot of people in international affairs, but you've got to work with them. and if putin would want to tell us where he's going to hit, if he's going to subscribe to a
plan that keeps his planes perhaps several miles away from the turkish border, keeps his planes from bombing the free syrian army and the turkimen who he was bombing just days before this unfortunate loss of life over turkey and over syria, i think that it makes sense to coordinate the details. i do not think that we will be able to get him to subscribe to our objectives, which is a reasonable syria that, hopefully, refugees will want to move back to. >> let's talk about our objectives, especially when it comes to this administration. there have been members from our own party, dianne feinstein, also leon panetta, in light of the attacks in paris, saying that something needs to be done immediately as far as action in combating isis. what do you think president obama should be doing? is the strategy right now, as he's saying it, when it comes to putting a latch on foreign
fighters, stopping the flow of cash and more counterintelligence working, or should more be done, like ground troops? >> well, first, the president needs to be praised. he did not lose 45,000 of america's best servicemen and women in an unnecessary war like his predecessor. but second, there are some steps the president should be taking. the air campaign we've had so far against isis has been a "zero civilian casualty" approach. that would have totally failed us in world war ii. we have not bombed the oil fields, we have not bombed the tanker convoys that provide isis with its money. we should have been willing to do that. it's true that some of the drivers of those trucks are technically civilians, but so were all of the workers in the munitions factories that we hit during world war ii. if you're working as part of the isis war machine and money machine, that is a legitimate target. so, we have to broaden our
targets. in addition, i think that you mentioned senator feinstein, that her idea of providing additional scrutiny to those with european passports that have visited iraq, visited syria, and i would say even have a stamp in their passport visiting turkey. right now we have -- everybody's concerned about a few hundred refugees where we spend two years of vetting. we don't do two minutes of vetting of tourists coming here from europe. >> okay. >> those that have those stamps probably should be subject to that. >> democratic congressman from california, brad sherman. appreciate you sharing your perspective with us. thank you. >> thank you. pope francis held his final event in kenya today and he urged young people to resist the urge of corruption, saying it's like sugar. pontiff also said education and jobs are the keys to preventing young people from joining extremist groups. kenya has the largest number of fighters in the group al shabaab, which is linked to al qaeda. the pope will visit uganda today before heading to the war-torn
look at this. this is earlier this hour. the official white house christmas tree was presented to first lady michelle obama and her dogs, beau and sunny. that's an 18 1/2-foot fraser fir from buster's christmas trees in lansdale, pennsylvania. the tree was planted way back in 2001. well, the lighter moment comes this morning after a jittery night at the white house, as we are getting new information about joseph caputo. he is the man who jumped the white house fence yesterday. he is 22 years old from stanford, connecticut, and was wearing an american flag and carrying a binder in his mouth when he landed on white house grounds yesterday afternoon while the first family was celebrating thanksgiving. he was immediately apprehended and taken into custody, leaving the white house under lockdown for nearly three hours. caputo will appear in court this afternoon, where unlawful entry is expected to be the initial
charge. developing now, the post-thanksgiving travel rush is under way, and the real rush will be this weekend, but there are crowds out there today as millions of americans begin heading home after their holiday and many are noticing an increased security presence across the country. we want to check in once again with nbc's rehema ellis, live outside one of the country's busiest train stations, new york penn station. and so far, so good this morning, rehema. >> reporter: it really is. it's just what people want, that things are going nice and smoothly. the security is here, and it is expected to be here. many people we spoke to who are regulars in the new york area who pass through penn station on a regular basis say they are accustomed to seeing national guard, increased security, and it makes them feel comforted. authorities said they were going to heighten security efforts, and they have done that. not as many people traveling right now. i suspect we'll see a lot of travelers come tomorrow and most certainly on sunday. and if this holds true, they will also be saying that they
welcome the intense security measures as well, not only here at the station here but also at the shopping malls you're going to see increased security. frances? >> nbc's rehema ellis, thank you very much. and there are a lot of americans traveling abroad this holiday weekend, and they're under a warning from the state department worldwide travel alert. it will impact international travel for several months, expiring on february 24th of 2016. joining me now is raffi ran, former security direct your of the israeli authority. i appreciate your time. when you consider all the travelers here, just this year nearly 9 million americans will travel to europe, 1.3 million to the middle east. with this warning in effect, what does that change for travelers? >> well, first of all, i think that travelers are expected to pay more attention and to be more alert to their surrounding.
but i think that they would also meet a higher level of security at european airports, again, perhaps, with longer queues and waiting time, and all in all, i think that the atmosphere today, specifically in europe, but not limited to europe, is running at the very high alert level. >> well, witness can't help but notice the timeline here, given this alert will expire in february of 2016. given that we're in this post paris terror attack world, does that mean it's going to be scaled back, that there's going to be even less of a threat then? why would they do that and impose a timeline? >> well, i think that we have to start getting used to the idea that fighting terrorism is not a short process. this struggle is going to be with us probably for many years
to go, and we will have to adjust a lot of the things that we have been used to to this new state of alert. the alert would go up and down. right now it is relatively high, and it would probably decline for a while and will go up again as we expect some future activities on the terrorist side. >> given that, we should expect the up-and-down of those alerts. is that pretty much the new normal that we can expect when it comes to americans traveling abroad? >> yes, i believe it is. i mean, i can remember the days when israelis were traveling abroad at the time when they were targeted worldwide, that was something that wherever they traveled, they carried with them. so, i believe that now that america and the west is being
targeted by isis very specifically, that is something that we will need to consider in the way we run our life, at least for the next few years. >> so, hopefully, that's one thing that american travelers will have in mind, and being patient as well during those travels. former security director of the israeli airport authority, rafi ron, good to have you with me. thank you. >> thank you. coming up, ready, set, shop! >> i'm actually running around looking for all the gifts on my list in the paper before they run out. got it, got my spider-man. now i'm off to go get my teenage mutant ninja turtles headphones. >> all right, hopefully, she gets them. the toy industry poised for a blockbuster holiday season, but we'll talk to a financial expert about how to avoid breaking the bank. ya know, viagra helps guys with erectile dysfunction get and keep an erection. talk to your doctor about viagra. ask your doctor if your heart is healthy enough for sex. do not take viagra if you take nitrates for chest pain or adempas® for pulmonary hypertension.
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scarves, that kind of stuff is really stuff you might want to wait and get a great deal on. >> right. i think coats have generally been soft. i just spoke with macy's's ceo this morning, especially in the northeast because of the weather, those aren't doing as well. but active wear is, which is a good category. but yeah, coats can often always be on sale after christmas as well. >> any time you can get a great deal. love that. hadley malcolm, thank you very much. that will do it for us here for this hour. thank you so much for being with me. my colleague alex witt picks up our coverage after this break.
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up early and out the door in force to cash in on big savings. for those hoping for a no-hassle holiday, mother nature is sure making a mess of it. a major storm system is causing hazardous conditions covering roads with ice and snow from north texas throughout the midwest. and in paris, a day of remembrance today. french president francois holland echl hollande leads his country in a somber service to remember those lost in terror attacks two weeks ago. first, we start with breaking news out of chicago, where a man has been arrested and charged in the killing of 9-year-old tyshawn lee. police announced first degree murder charges against this man, corey morgan, who had been questioned in the case last week. police believe tyshawn was lured into an alley where he was shot multiple times. what they say was retribution for the killing of morgan's brother who was gunned down three weeks before tyshawn was killed. for more, let's go to msnbc
correspondent adam reese in chicago. before we get to what's happening behind you, what is the latest on this arrest and the reasons for it? >> reporter: we just had a press conference. the superintendent said this was of course a shooting that shocked the city. it has certainly seen its share of shootings. this young man, 9-year-old tyshawn lee was targeted, assassinated. he was lured out of his apartment thinking he was going to a basketball game, walking in an alleyway and is shot in his face and back. police believe as you mentioned that this was some form of retaliation, gang-related, that morgan's brother and mother were shot and so this was retaliation and they decided to retaliate against a young 9-year-old boy. morgan had been arrested last week on gun charges. he made $1 million bail but was rearrested and as you heard in the last hour, that press conference where they used
superlatives like assassination, just shocking this city that a 9-year-old boy was taken out in some gang-related retaliation. alex? >> clearly some huge issues on that front in chicago. let's also talk about what's going on right there behind you. our viewers can see this because you are on the magnificent mile there and demonstrators are planning to disrupt the black friday shopping. they want to bring attention to their call for police reforms and this all follows as you know the release of that video showing the 2014 shooting death by a police officer of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. >> reporter: right. they are calling this economic justice. they want everybody who is out here, it's a cold, rainy day, but there will be shoppers out here on the magnificent mile. it is black friday. they want all those shoppers to feel their pain. they have got a lot of questions about that mcdonald shooting. why there's no audio when there's 16 shots fired, why did it take so long for this officer
to be charged, some 400 days, and why was the family given $5 million in a settlement before the video was even released? they are calling for the police superintendent and the state's attorney to step down. we have got about 200 people here so far. they anticipate that they will walk down from here about ten blocks to the water tower. i talked to some of the police chiefs here asking them if they will be allowed to walk in the street. they say we will just have to see how it goes. i talked to jesse jackson this morning. i said if police stop you, what will you do? he said there will be civil disobedience. we have a group coming over here. i want to show you this group coming here, joining the other group of 200 that were already here. there were a group of 200 people here peacefully protesting. now you see this group a bit more vociferous joining the other 200. we just have to see if police in
fact allow them to walk down michigan avenue. the plan was they would walk about ten blocks to water tower and it would be peaceful, then jesse jackson said they could potentially decide to walk back. alex? >> so a couple hundred people we have had some aerial shots and we can certainly confirm that, maybe even more than that at this point. it is growing. at the end of this ten-block march, has there been an area that's been cordoned off for them to gather and continue with the protest or do you know, will they be making their way back up the miracle mile if the intent is to disrupt the shopping, ten blocks will take them a few minutes, certainly, to walk that distance but beyond that, will they stick around? >> reporter: well, as you know, water tower is a shopping mall. so there is some anticipation that they would want to enter the shopping mall and i don't believe police will allow that. there has not been an area cordoned off. we just have to see how that goes, whether or not they allow them to march in the street or
if they decide to walk along the sidewalk. but more and more people are coming. we thought there might be a smaller crowd because it's cold and rainy, but sure enough, there are hundreds of people here now gathering as the march sets out towards water tower. >> okay. thank you very much for the background there and we will keep bringing you guys these live pictures. of course, protests are coming one day after officials released additional video from the scene of laquan mcdonald's shooting. the video is from the dash cams of five of at least eight police cars on the scene, in which it shows mcdonald running through a parking lot in front of two of the officers, but just like the first video, the recordings have no discernible audio, although you can hear the faint sound of police sirens. this new video includes footage of the killers or rather the teen's suspected killer, officer jason van dyke, who was charged on tuesday with first degree murder. his attorney says the video does not depict his client's
perspective on the scene and that it's not enough to determine if officer van dyke acted inappropriately. joining me from chicago is brandon smith, the journalist who successfully sued for the release of this video 400 days after the fact. brandon, let's talk about the release of the videos. i welcome you. the questions of the audio, is that one of the more significant ones for you? >> certainly it's an interesting question. i have heard that some audio experts are a little skeptical about why there would not be audio on these. people who analyze, say, black box audio from airplanes, they say hey, this should have been on the police videos. there are also a couple questions such as one of the five videos released starts halfway through or starts once the shooting has happened and also in the five minutes after the shooting, police cars were moved around. we know that based on other
videos. and the one car that would show the incident the best, we think, we didn't get video from that. so me and my attorney in our case against the city that ultimately ended up releasing these videos, we are going to demand to get answers for all these things. >> oh, yeah. again, there are three cars at least that have yet to release their video. what doesn't really make sense if you don't hear the audio or anything that's being exchanged between officers inside those cars, but yet you can hear they say just a faint sound of a siren but you don't hear gunshots. i mean, it just doesn't add up. >> right. and i may not be investigating this so hard, but for the fact that police deleted video from surveillance camera across the street at a burger king, so we're going to try to ask them for sworn testimony as to what
happened to all of this audio and the other videos, maybe. >> why do you think it took a whole year plus for your lawsuit and the videos to be released to the public as a result of that? >> well, a lawsuit went on for several months and the thing prior to that was a bunch of freedom of information requests and those were delayed and delayed. i suspect that the city really wanted an indictment of this officer before they released the video and they ultimately got that. they indicted the morning that they released the video later in the afternoon. so it does kind of look a little fishy as to why they finished up the investigation right before releasing the video. maybe they wouldn't have finished the investigation if we hadn't called for the video's release. >> okay. it looks like even with the video released, a lot of questions remain to be answered. brandon smith, thank you very much for coming and talking with us about your lawsuit. we are going to continue to
monitor the protests in the heart of chicago's shopping district known as the miracle mile. meanwhile, in other cities around the country, shoppers are certainly out in full force taking advantage of black friday deals. as usual, the stores like target and walmart and best buy all opened up last night and early this morning but amid anxiety following the recent attacks in paris, there has been a noticeable increase in security. msnbc's sarah dallof is joining me from atlanta. good day. the heightened security doesn't appear to be keeping shoppers away at all, is it? >> reporter: that's correct. the heightened security really no, sir appearing not appearing to have an effect on shoppers. we aren't really seeing the crowds here. a lot of people just coming out to kind of peruse. some of them hit the doorbusters at the big box stores last night but today they have all day to wake up and be leisurely about it.
we see stores slashing merchandise as much as 50%. nationwide, black friday sales are expected to be a little bit down this year. while cybermonday sales are expected to be up. overall, holiday sales are expected to rise about 3.7% bringing in a total of about $630 billion. the average consumer is expected to spend right around $830. that is the most they have spent since 2007. so what are they buying? the hot items this year are electronics, gaming systems, ipads, things like that. star wars toys also expected to be huge. as far as dolls go, last year everything was about elsa from "frozen." this year, barbie is back on top expected to be one of the hottest toys. so electronics, star wars and barbies, real classics. no big surprises there. things people love year after year. back to you. >> i had the ceo of toys "r" us on and those are the toys he brought with him. thank you so much. shopping is not the only
sign that the holiday season is upon us. this was the scene at the white house just a few moments ago. the official white house christmas tree arriving after a long ride from pennsylvania for an annual presentation which spans nearly five decades. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker joins me now. good day to you. everything going as planned at the white house today? not so much yesterday, though. little different. >> reporter: very different yesterday. you're absolutely right. just to recap what happened, it was about 2:45 when according to secret service officials, 22-year-old joseph caputo jumped over the fence here at the white house. he only got a few feet before secret service agents were able to stop him in his tracks. he's currently in custody. he's going to be arraigned a little later on today, facing charges of unlawful entry, i am told that there could be more charges, though, as the day goes on. now, this is significant for a couple of reasons. first, this is the first time that someone's been able to jump
over the fence since those spikes were installed. that happened about five months ago during the summer. it's also one of the few times that someone's been able to jump over the fence while the entire first family was here. the first family inside enjoying their thanksgiving dinner. so all of this will be taken into consideration. congresswoman eleanor holmes-norton requesting a meeting with secret service leadership early next week. she wants some answers about how this could have happened given these new spikes. other agents say look, this is an indication the system is working. they clearly slowed him down and that's why agents were able to stop him so quickly. back to you. >> still pretty bold. those are some sharp spikes. thanks so much. two weeks after the deadly terrorist attacks, france is remembering the lives lost. we are live in paris. and presidential candidate ben carson travels to jordan to meet syrian refugees. will the visit have an impact on the 2016 race? ids touch during cold and flu season sticks with them.
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europe is slowing getting back to a sense of normalcy two weeks to the day since the deadly terror attacks across paris. ♪ a bit earlier, parisians gathered for a ceremony where a makeshift memorial has sprung up in the center of the city. survivors and their families were there to remember the 130 killed in the attacks. the names of those lost were read one by one. [ speaking a foreign language ] nbc's gabe gutierrez is in paris for us. gabe, we saw the french president at that ceremony. it was quite moving, these young people, their names and ages, many in their 20s and 30s.
but this all came after he had a meeting with russia's president vladimir putin. first up, what came out of that face-to-face meeting? >> reporter: well, alex, the long-term results of that meeting remain to be seen, but french president francois hollande was able to secure some cooperation from russia, but any long-term broad-based coalition that he's seeking, that still remains a long way off, it seems. putin agreed to share intelligence on isis activities and also to coordinate air strikes to prevent any dangerous incidents in the future, but the issue is that the u.s. and some of its allies want russia to focus more on fighting isis instead of propping up the regime of bashar al assad in syria. russia, however, publicly has said that it is not wedded to the assad government but in practice, it's a different story. this caps off a very busy
diplomatic week for french president hollande. he met with british prime minister david cameron earlier in the week, then headed to washington to meet with president obama before heading back here to europe to meet with german chancellor angela merkel and then meeting with the italian prime minister thursday before heading to moscow. however, he returned here today a very emotional day here in france, saying -- paying their respects to 130 victims of those deadly terrorist attacks two weeks ago to the day. >> absolutely. fighting isis clearly top of mind but we can't overlook another big thing that officials are looking at there in paris. that's preparing for next week's u.n. climate summit which is just outside of the capital there. you have 196 world leaders including president obama, who are expected to attend. how are officials getting ready for that? >> reporter: well, obviously a very huge security apparatus will have to be in place for that. since the attacks two weeks ago,
about 120,000 troops and police officers have been deployed across france to handle security, another 11,000 or so are expected for the u.n. climate summit. that begins on monday. certainly all eyes will be on paris once again, even after this intense manhunt continues throughout europe for those two suspected terrorists that are still on the run two weeks after the attack. >> good point you make. still on the run. gabe gutierrez, thank you. for more on the ongoing investigation into the paris attacks, i'm joined by nbc news law enforcement analyst and retired atf special agent jim cavanaugh. good to see you. let's talk about these raids as they are ongoing. officials are trying to hunt for the suspected paris attacker salah abdeslam, also they believe because he's been out for two weeks now, they believe he's being helped by a network of people. so as time passes, what are the chances of actually getting this guy? >> yeah, it's getting harder and
harder, absolutely. he's with abrini and they were last spotted in the countryside north of paris. it harkins back to the kouachi brothers from "charlie hebdo" who ran around the countryside, eventually trying to take some hostages in a business, barricaded until the french tactical team got them. these guys are likely getting help or have gotten to a safe house. remember that the tactical commander of this paris operation for the terrorists, abaaoud, he rented safe houses, apartments, hotel rooms. these guys have a strategy, they have a plan. they could have gotten to a safe house, another one in france or even germany, and maybe their only hope is to try to make themselves get back to syria where they can reconnect with isis or daesh as i like to call them. >> i know they don't like being called daesh. a lot of people are taking to calling them just that. what kind of intelligence if abdeslam gets captured, what kind of intelligence do we hope to get from him?
>> he's got a lot of contacts but i think we don't know if his will stop with abaaoud, the one who was killed in the police raid in saint-denis. the most important thing is has isis really now have an external operation command in raqqah or mosul that's directsing these attacks. if we look at it clearly from a law enforcement or intelligence command point of view, a bomb an acre kills 100 people. the russian airliner attack probably from sinai province, the attack in beirut of multiple suicide bombers, the attack in paris we all know the structure of that. the tempo of these attacks likely directed by an external operations command which harkins back to the style of al qaeda, that daesh seems to be taking on. that's very important. we as the west and france and america, even russia, have to
find that. it may just be in a house in raqqah but it could be more direction being given, because these are specific targets that they are fighting externally and it's probably because of the pressure they are feeling but we need to ramp that tempo up. i think the president wants to. france certainly has with the aircraft carriers, and russia, put pressure on them, find that external operating cell. we took a lot of those external commanders out from al qaeda with drone strikes. it was the most dangerous job in the world to be the number three external commander in al qaeda for awhile because you were going to get hit with a drone. you got to take that out and then squeeze them back down. >> jim cavanaugh, thanks for your assessment. want to take all of you back to chicago where we are giving you a bird's eye view of things there. that is a march on the miracle mile, a busy shopping district along michigan avenue in the heart of chicago. disruptors there want to take back i guess what they feel has been wrongly done to them. they are marching in the defense
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follows the release of most of the video that is known to be out there showing the 2014 shooting death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. we have been following this a couple hundred protesters but it definitely looks like that is growing. i was supposed to begin at 11:00 a.m. local time, so about a half hour ago. they are moving about ten blocks or so down the miracle mile, trying to disrupt shopping on this black friday. so again, we are keeping our eye on that for you. adam reese is in the crowd. we will get to him in just a moment and talk with him. meantime, that protest as a major winter storm is making quite a mess of the nation's midsection. widespread freezing rain, sleet and snow, all causing travel delays and big disruptions across the plains and midwest. some areas reportedly could get as much as three quarters of an inch of ice. let's go to msnbc meteorologist bonnie schneider with a look. >> you're right, an ice storm warning through tonight all the way to about noon on saturday. amarillo, lubbock, oklahoma city
looking at wintry weather and some icing but not in this ice storm warning. we also have winter storm warnings. let's go to the radar. if you are in dodge city, kansas, the temperature is hovering around 21 degrees. in wichita, oklahoma city, we are in the mid to low 30s. that's when you start to get icing. it's kind of fascinating to watch the temperatures play out because there is shreveport, louisiana. what a contrast. almost 70 degrees. so not that far of a distance but huge changes across much of this region. we will continue to see that as well. the cold air across much of the west is moving east so denver, high today of 17 degrees. temperatures staying into the 40s in dallas but unfortunately, we are looking at a big risk for flooding there. look how mild it is in the east. 62 degrees in new york city. can't believe it. let's talk about the flooding, because this is going to impact many over this busy weekend. we have a flood threat for texas, oklahoma and even into southern missouri. this includes dallas and little rock.
widespread areas of three to five inches of rain but some areas could see eight inches plus. this has already been the wettest month so far for dallas. wettest year, rather. in texas, we are looking at total rainfalls, they should be higher just to the north of i-20. that's right here, kind of loops to the south of dallas. we are going to see some really heavy rain saturday across much of this region. important to note for holiday travelers. let's take a look as we time it out. this is a future cast. it shows where we are going to see rain and ice. by 7:00 a.m. tomorrow morning we will be looking at ice near oklahoma city, rain for tulsa, heavy rain for little rock and dallas. the computer models are in agreement on that. as we go through the rest of the weekend, saturday into sunday, saturday night, a wet one for memphis, tennessee so all this moving across the midsouth. we are seeing it into mississippi as well and in little rock. lots of wet weather for sunday morning for those of you heading out. but starting off with saturday, the threat of flooding, mild temperatures to the east and bitter cold to the west. boise climbs to a high of only
28 degrees. for those of you traveling on sunday, you are not alone. it's one of the busiest travel days of the year. looking for wet weather not just in texas but notice this rain kind of pushes to the east so the midsouth impacted, parts of the southeast. major airports like atlanta could see delays on sunday. all of this is moving to the east. eventually this rain will work its way up the coast and we will get it in new york monday into tuesday but for now, we will focus really on this area throughout much of the holiday weekend. looks like this is maybe a big rain maker once again for texas. they just don't need it. >> they sure don't. bonnie, thank you so much. donald trump finds himself in the middle of yet another controversy. this time about comments he made about a "new york times" reporter. how the gop presidential candidate is defending his latest actions, next. before we go to break, want to show you what's happening in the miracle mile. people are trying to get to stores and go shopping this black friday. they may have a tough time getting there as a result of these protests. demonstrators are trying to call
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about several hundred people blocking michigan avenue. they have essentially shut it down. we weren't sure if they were going to walk down the sidewalk or walk down the middle of the street. they are calling for justice. this is their version of economic justice. they want chicagoans and shoppers that might be out here today on the magnificent mile for black friday to feel their pain. i have got david and michael with me. david, let's start with you. why are you out here today? what's the goal of this protest? >> justice means a lot more than simply the appropriate sentence for that man who committed that egregious murder of laquan. justice means a top-down reform of the police system to stop the racist shootings. it means rehabilitation and support of communities that have been neglected and disenfranchised for generations. it means schools, jobs, education, support. it means economic and social justice. >> reporter: michael, let me quickly hear from you why you are here today.
>> i just think it's time for change. this is the culture at the police department for the last 30, 40 years. we want to bring national attention to the problem here in chicago and try to get some help. >> reporter: thank you, michael. basically they have major issues with the mcdonald shooting. they are talking about 13 months. that means why did it take 13 months for this officer to be charged. they are talking about 16 shots. why did the officer fire 16 shots into laquan mcdonald. they are asking for justice from the justice department to get involved. also an independent investigation. we are hearing they want rahm to go, mayor rahm emanuel. they would like him to step down as well as the police superintendent and the state's attorney, anita alvarez. alex? >> let's talk about the timing of the incident back in 2014. you and i spoke earlier on the broadcast and you talked about there being an election around
that time. is there political motivation suspected in the withholding of releasing that police dash cam video? >> reporter: that is certainly the suggestion being made by a lot of the protesters today, that there was some sort of coverup not only by city hall, but by the police department, that they wanted to keep this video, this very graphic video, out of the public's hands prior to the election of rahm emanuel. so you hear about a coverup, you hear 16 shots, you hear 13 months. they are calling for justice and they want the justice department to get involved. they just don't trust the police department or city hall. they believe there's been a coverup in the shooting of laquan mcdonald. >> we should also talk about the officer, you can say former officer, jason van dyke. he was fired on the day that he was charged with first degree murder. that happened on the 24th so just earlier this week. he does have a history, of
course, if we are in a court of law, we cannot necessarily bring in the past but we should say that between 2008 and 2013, he was charged with 20 citizens complaints, varying levels of misconduct to use of force. what do we know about any sort of defense that he may be trying to muster at this point? >> reporter: basically his attorney has said numerous times that the defense is that he was defending himself, that he felt threatened by laquan mcdonald. there's no indication on the video why he might have felt threatened. clearly laquan mcdonald in the video we have seen was walking away from him at the time of the shooting. but his defense is that he was defending himself, that he felt threatened. alex? >> okay. adam, thank you very much. we will continue to check with you as you continue to march with the protesters in the miracle mile, downtown chicago. joining me on the phone,
pastor cory brooks of the new beginnings church of chicago. pastor, we spoke earlier. how are things going, sir? are they going according to plan at this point? >> they are going according to plan. we have about, looks like about 2,000 people or more, like three different major groups. a lot of people down here. it's very peaceful, no problems thus far. i don't believe anyone has been arrested. there's no rioting or looting. everybody is being peaceful and doing our first amendment rights. >> first amendment rights to discuss what specifically, sir? what is it that is top of mind for these protesters as they march? >> well, the main thing we would love to have an independent prosecutor, independent of our state's attorney, and to investigate the whole process of how this took 400 days to come to fruition. we need that to be investigated and we need it to be done by someone who is independent, especially since the state's attorney and u.s. attorney were familiar with the case as it is.
>> pastor brooks, have you reached out to civic leaders there or leaders within the police community as to getting an explanation why it took so long to get this video released? granted, we spoke just a short while ago with the journalist -- >> there are a number of people who tried, over 15 individuals tried to get that video released and they could not get it released. thankfully, there was a journalist and activist who went to court to get it released and we're grateful that the court decided in their favor. we are grateful that the mayor had enough fortitude not to try to appeal it. >> pastor corey brooks, thank you for phoning in. we hope things continue to go smoothly there as a lot of people are braving the elements, too, to be out there and make their voices heard on the miracle mile in chicago. thank you so much. we will take a short break on msnbc. more live coverage from chicago and politics of course. can a business have a mind?
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pattern for donald trump. he makes outrageous statements, catches himself, sort of pivots and then goes on with seemingly no retribution for it. >> he clearly has a complicated problem with the truth. it just doesn't work for him. but he doubles down on it and his supporters don't really care about things like this. although i think as we go on over time, it's a cumulative effort. it's not going to be just what happened with john mccain or with megyn kelly or this reporter. it is starting to fall into a narrative that donald trump will say whatever he wants to to get elected. he's becoming just another politician. >> do you really think it's going to -- >> i think his core support is his core support. that 25% of the primary voter, republican primary voter, is probably going to stay there. but as the field narrows, someone can get 50% and he's then in second place. i think that's what we will see
over time. there's no growth in donald trump's numbers and that he's not going to see any with statements like this. this is what prevents him from growing. >> okay. chris, both republicans and democrats in the presidential race are looking now to iowa. in fact, here's what former bush speech writer michael gersin wrote in today's "washington post." can trump translate poll numbers into caucus goers, will people who probably never participated in a caucus drudge on a cold night to a high school cafeteria to support a candidate who isn't part of any idealogical movement. think that's a legitimate concern? >> it's a legitimate concern. iowa is different than a caucus state, in particular iowa is different than a regular primary state. you really have to have a strong ground game. donald trump does not really have a campaign. it's a caricature. it's all about him. he basically feeds off outrageous remarks, offensive remarks, and gets media coverage from it and rallies his base
supporters. the problem i think, the problem i think the republicans have is a serious one because in a different -- if it was a different primary system it wouldn't be as much of a problem but they don't have a proportional system all the way through. what that means is once you get into march, it's near end of march and they have winner take all states and you have even a candidate gets 20%, 25%, if there's enough candidates still in the race, he can start winning some of these races. the question is, if he loses iowa, does his support just collapse because everyone sees it was just a house of cards. i just don't know, because to be honest, i'm amazed the man is still leading a primary race given everything he has said. who isn't surprised by that? >> you and every other strategist from both parties with whom i have spoken over months now. i do want to get in a word or two about ben carson with you, because as you know, he is heading oversees to visit a syrian refugee camp in jordan, specifically hospitals and
clinics. but is this going to do anything to dampen the criticism that he's not really up to speed, if you will, on foreign policy? >> no. it will do absolutely nothing. it will be a great tv moment. it will look good. it shows that he's willing to speak and reach out to people. he's not going to change any of his positions as a result of being out there. and he is really in the mode of spiraling down. i don't think that this or anything else is going to help him. >> okay. chris, i don't have time to ask you another question but i will get back at you again. that's for sure. thank you both. we are also following the breaking developments in chicago for you. once again, a live look at the protests taking place right now in downtown. this is the miracle mile, michigan avenue. lots of big stores all hoping for people to come in today and do some black friday shopping. however, it may not happen as much as they had hoped as a result of these demonstrations which call for police reforms following the release of video showing the 2014 shooting death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald. we will continue to monitor the
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there were new raids throughout belgium today. at least two people were detained within the last 24 hours but they have since been released. the latest raid happening about an hour or so southeast of the capital, brussels. let's get to nbc's claudio lavanga in the capital for us. i understand another suspect has just been charged with terrorism. what can you tell us about that? >> reporter: yes, alex. the federal prosecution office confirmed today, literally an hour ago, that yesterday they arrested a man here in brussels, the capital city, and they later charged him with what was written on the statement, terrorist murders and participation in activities with terrorist organization. now, they did not specify whether that is in relation to the terror attacks in paris as we believe, but if that is confirmed, that man, this will be the sixth person charged in
relation to the charge with terrorism offenses in relation to the terror attacks in paris. also the prosecution said yesterday they arrested further two people in a town about 80 miles east of the capital, believed to be the father and one of the brothers of the men charged. they were later released after they were questioned, they were later released without charges. >> thank you for that update. the activity just about an hour ago. with me now is christopher harmer, retired navy commander and senior naval analyst now with the institute for the study of war. sir, with a welcome to you, as you are well aware, brussels has lowered their threat alert to its second highest level from 4 to 3 now. this happened yesterday but officials certainly warn the risk of a paris style attack is serious. what does that tell you, the fact they lowered it? >> it tells me that a lot of these terrorist networks in europe when they saw this spectacular attack in paris a couple weeks ago, went to ground. in the immediate aftermath of that, what the terrorist networks are trying to do is
hide their tracks. ditching cell phones, ditching cars, changing their physical location, shutting down e-mail accounts. they are cutting off their ties to that terrorist network so it will be more difficult for the police to roll them up. at the same time, as they do that, as they go to ground, they become less effective as terrorists. these individual terrorists in an individual place, yes, that's a problem. they are a consequential problem when they are linked together. in the aftermath of an attack like this where the police, law enforcement, intelligence community, military, is all focused on them like never before, a lot of these guys feel the heat. they go to ground so they become a little less effective in the short term. now, arresting this terror suspect two weeks after the fact, that's great news. i wish it would have happened in the 24 hours so we could have gotten a little more intelligence out of him before his networks shut themselves off. >> may i ask you, commander, where does the bar lie, if you will? at which point do you get charged with terrorism? how serious does that have to be? >> well, it depends on the rules
of the individual state in question. my frustration, it's more of an observation than a frustration, is you have so many of these terrorist sympathizers. we don't know who they are until they act. we have no business prying into their private lives until they commit a crime. unfortunately, the way the terrorist system works now is you have got these guys that are in place in europe that are sympathizers of isis or al qaeda, that get radicalized online in jihadi forums, then conduct an attack. there's really no traction for law enforcement or the intel ye intelligence community until they go after these guys. i don't see any way around it in a free, open society. we don't want the government monitoring everybody all the time. but the reality is we have thousands of these sympathizers in europe and some are simply waiting for the right time to strike. yes, it is great new that this individual was arrested. it's great news that he's charged with terrorism. i'm a little frustrated that it took us this long to get here and i'm not sure how we prevent
this going forward other than through continued military attacks against the isis homeland but that really doesn't address the problem of the ideology of these thousands of young men who are adhering to it. >> look, we are vigilant in the wake of 9/11 here stateside but how long do you expect this overt increased security to last? >> this is multi-generational warfare. i was a force protection anti-terrorism officer on 9/11 along with being a naval aviator. i knew on that day we were looking at a multi-generational warfare. the cold war took 40 years start to finish. i think will war will take us about that long as well. i don't want americans to live in fear. i don't want america to change from an open and free and democratic society. at the same time, i want the american people to understand we have got several decades of this left. we have got to be prepared for the long haul. >> it is the new norm. retired navy commander christopher harmer, thank you so much. we are following breaking developments in chicago as we give you a live look at the protests taking place right now in pretty miserable weather along the miracle mile. it's happening in the area known
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a lot of complaints. they are calling for justice and by shutting down michigan avenue, which they did, they accomplished their goal. they hope that more chicagoans and more shoppers that might have been out here on black friday will feel their pain. they are just outraged over the shooting of laquan mcdonald. they want justice, they want accountability not only in city hall but of course at the police department. >> okay. the folks that you have been talking with along the way, they are braving some terrible weather but they are quite passionate about it and they want this to remain peaceful, right? but they are prepared to be arrested if something goes awry with that plan? >> reporter: it's generally been very peaceful, actually. there were a couple minor arrests right at the beginning of the march but they came down michigan avenue about ten blocks, it's been peaceful and actually, there's been a very small contingent of police officers. we only saw some police officers on bikes lining the route and came along with the protesters. but other than that, there have
not been -- there has not been a very large police presence. joining me now, alex, as i mentioned, charles and gloria, who came out today. charles, let's start with you. why did you come out this nasty weather but you thought it was important to be here today. >> because i'm sick and tired of being sick and tired. you know i'm sick and tired of these racist police officers killing people like me, my children and my grandchildren. it's time for us to stop this criminal act from happening. these police officers, they have been doing this far too long. we got to stop it. >> reporter: what do you think needs to be done, though? >> one of the things, you know they always talk about not all police officers are bad. i agree with that. what's happening is the so-called good officers, where are they? they can expose these bad police officers. don't stand by and look at them and not say anything about them. you know who they are.
so it needs to be exposed, these police officers need to be exposed. >> reporter: gloria, you mentioned you were particularly touched about the murder of tyshawn lee. tell me more. >> yes. because i have a 9-year-old grand-nephew. i would hate for something like that to happen to him, to have him murdered in the street. >> reporter: what do you feel needs to be done so that this city's history of violence can hopefully come to an end in the near future? >> i think i would like to see someone in gang intelligence, someone who has the know-how in gang intelligence. i think our city needs to really, really focus on that and see can we get this gang members to put down their guns and give them jobs and employment to stop the violence. >> reporter: thank you both. alex, the real big things they want here are justice for thlaqn
mcdonald. they want an independent investigator. they would like the justice department to get involved. most of all they want the police superintendent, gary mccarthy and anita alvarez, the state's attorney, they want both of them to step down immediately. >> i think gloria makes a very good point. getting people in leadership in the city to understand the inner workings of gang violence, because so often, the horrific numbers as a result of shootings in the south side of chicago and elsewhere have been as a result of gang violence. i know that folks are hoping to hear reverend jesse jackson. we are as well. he should be addressing the crowd any moment now. but with regard to what they are saying amongst themselves, keeping this peaceful, hey, know what? we do have reverend jesse jackson, actually. let's listen to what he's saying. >> this is our struggle.
>> actually, with all of you, we are listening, we thought we heard reverend jackson speaking. we know he is addressing the crowd right now. it's a very large group and kind of in a compact environment there. they expected a couple hundred people. that's what we saw just as that march got under way. clearly that crowd has swelled, i believe there was one estimate by pastor corey brooks who said there were at least 1,000 people. that looks to be probably about right. again, reverend jesse jackson, we have been trying to listen to him as he addresses the crowd. he did tell adam reese earlier today that he would hope to have the protests be peaceful but people would be willing to be arrested to show a peaceful sense of protest as to what's happening there. we can see reverend jackson, his
fist is up in the air. let's see if we can listen in. >> gracious god, we say to you, lord, we hear the cries -- >> again, we are hearing some leaders calling for a sense of prayer there and unity. we had hoped it was reverend jesse jackson. that was not the reverend. you did see him there. adam, back to you very quickly, if you can hear me, how much more -- how many more blocks do the protesters have to go or have they all congregated in the final stopping area there? >> reporter: well, their goal was to come here. this is water tower. they started at wacker, which was about ten blocks up. they are here really to seek justice in the shooting of laquan mcdonald but also by coincidence, there was a police presser today in the shooting of tyshawn lee and when they heard
the announcement about that and the words that were used in the shooting of tyshawn lee, words like assassination and execution, that just really got the crowd even more outraged. that this young boy, a 9-year-old boy, was actually targeted, he came out of his home, he was lured out of his apartment thinking he was going to a basketball game and he was shot and killed, shot in the face and the back in some sort of gang retaliation between two gangs was just outrageous. the police superintendent talked about how this kind of -- these kinds of shootings have just got to end here in chicago. >> it is an absolute nightmare. that's for sure. thinking about that poor 9-year-old boy. adam, we know you are keeping an eye on things. we do appreciate that. very fluid right now. we should tell you that march has been under way for a bit over an hour now and we will have adam keep an eye on things in the middle of the crowd. >> to more developing news out of washington as the man taken
you don't by the secret service after hopping the white house fence on thanksgiving, 22-year-old joseph caputo, is facing an initial charge of unlawful entry. that charge could change over the course of the investigation. nbc white house correspondent kristen welker joins me now. things back to normal today at the white house but a big change from this time yesterday on thanksgiving. >> reporter: that's right. we were in lockdown for more than three hours yesterday after this incident happened. let me take you back there. this all started at about 2:45. that is when secret service officials say 22-year-old joseph caputo hopped fence. he didn't get very far. he only took a few steps. the secret service was able to stop him in his tracks, take him into custody. this is significant, because he's the first person to jump over the fence after those spikes were added to the top of it. also one of the few people to jump over the fence while the entire first family was at home so there's a lot of concern. congresswoman eleanor holmes-norton, for example,
requested a meeting with secret service leadership at the start of next week. she wants to know why he was able to get over the fence, if it is possible to improve security even more, to prevent these types of things from happening. secret service points out look, the fence essentially did what it is supposed to do. it slowed him down, they were able to apprehend him within just moments. but again, we were in lockdown here for more than three hours. some of the streets around this area closed off while the secret service investigated. that was a longer period of time than normal in part because he dropped a few papers so that caused a lot of concern, alarm bells went off. eventually we were given the all-clear here. but it's of course raising new questions about the security here at the white house. a lot of questions that are going to be asked over the next several days undoubtedly by congress as they look into this. >> among them, what was on those papers? sort of weird he had that binder as he was climbing over the fence. okay. we will get more later from the white house. thank you. changing gears now, right
this moment, in cities across the country, millions of shoppers are out taking advantage of the big black friday deals. the national retail federation predicts shoppers will spend about $2 million more this weekend than last year. though unlike previous years, there's a noticeable increase in security amid all the anxiety following the terror attacks in paris. so far, it doesn't appear to be keeping shoppers away. msnbc's sarah dalloff is joining me from atlanta where things appear to be picking up. how about security? what kind of presence are you seeing that? >> reporter: we are seeing increased security, specifically police officers and mall security guards but officials stress there's a lot going on behind the scenes to keep shoppers safe as well, keeping in mind the events of the last few weeks. everybody is vigilant. shoppers being asked if they see something, to say something. and to help be part of the solution here. as you can see behind me, people are taking advantage of the bargains as well as this beautiful weather we are having in atlanta right now. you mentioned that sales for the
weekend are going to be up. that includes cybermonday. but for black friday, specifically, we are actually expecting sales to drop a little bit due to the convenience of online shopping and the fact that retailers have offered holiday discounts starting weeks earlier. cybermonday, however, expected to increase. that's why you will see that overall increase in sales for the weekend. obviously the ability to shop from the comfort of your home is very appealing to a lot of us but for a lot of people, black friday has really become this tradition, as has the hunt for the best deal. >> up at 6:30 to actually go to work. i haven't got to work yet but i had to stop and do a little shopping. >> surprisingly, old navy so far has been the best deals that i found so far. 50% off the entire store. you can't really beat that. >> i don't like shopping online because like i like to try things on because lots of times, the size isn't right. and i kind of like shopping in the store even if it's hectic. i don't really have a problem with it. i think it's fun.
>> reporter: so what are the hot items? electronics, gaming systems, ipads, "star wars" toys and elsa from "frozen" was the doll to have last year. this year, barbie is back on top. >> oh, rivaling elsa. thank you for that. appreciate it. not everyone having as nice weather as sarah has in atlanta. a huge storm system threatening to make travel after thanksgiving day dangerous in parts of this country. millions in the midwest and central plains are bracing for the impact and the storms could last well into the weekend. msnbc meteorologist bonnie schneider joins me with the latest. >> the big threat will be rain and even ice across parts of oklahoma, kansas into texas. we are looking at a nasty system developing. there actually is an ice storm warning as well for parts of oklahoma and texas. this will go through noon on saturday. notice to the east temperatures are so mild. we have beautiful weather for the macy's thanksgiving day parade, another great one in new york today, 62 degrees.
temperatures much colder in denver, if you are out shopping on this black friday, 17 degrees. that's the high temperature. heads up for this weekend, we are watching the threat for flooding. this is all the way across texas, arkansas, oklahoma and missouri. some amounts could see up to eight inches in localized areas. a lot of the flooding will occur in this region north of dallas. we will be watching this very closely through the weekend because this area has already been quite saturated so all this rain coming in is not helping things. you are going to see unfortunately the highest rainfall north of i-20 and that's just to the north of dallas, texas. back to you. >> thanks for that. holiday travelers this weekend are contending not only with stormy weather conditions but also with tightened security measures against the threat of terror. i'm joined by our reporter in the heart of manhattan at penn state. how about security preparedness, how is that affecting the travel, lines and extra security for people to go through there?
>> reporter: here at penn state it's not affecting the lines in terms of slowing anything down. it is affecting the lines in terms of enhancing the comfort level of the passengers who are coming back and forth in through the station. i think we have some b-roll we can show you of the national guard is on guard here at penn state, and this is pretty common. people will tell you that they are accustomed to seeing them. in fact, folks said to me that once upon a time it used to make them uncomfortable to see national guard, people in military gear. now it enhances their comfort level considering all the things that are happening in the world. at the airports, the story is the same. people see the military, they see the police, they see bomb-sniffing dogs. it has become part of the new normal. authorities say it is an enhanced security presence during this holiday time. they are keeping their guard up. they are asking the public to stay vigilant as well. >> thank you so much from penn state.
turning to the fight against isis. france and russia agreed to closer coordination but the countries remain at odds over one thing that could impact their campaign. also ahead, donald trump denies mocking a reporter's disability. demands the "new york times" apologize to him. what the reporter is saying. can a business have a mind?
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a major world power is coming on board to the coalition against isis but with conditions. russia says it is ready to cooperate with the u.s. in its effort to eradicate the terror group but president putin cautions that a repeat of turkey's downing of a russian military jet this week would put that partnership in jeopardy. nbc's gabe gutierrez is joining
me from paris. gabe, with another welcome to you, what more can you tell us about this meeting between france and russia earlier today? >> reporter: hi, there, alex. good evening from paris. the meeting between vladimir putin and french president francois hollande happened yesterday, actually. there is a difference here between cooperation which france says it has won from russia and that broad-based coalition that president hollande is seeking. that seems to be far off and it shows how not so clear-cut the diplomacy can be. still vladimir putin did agree to share intelligence on isis activities and to coordinate air strikes to avoid dangerous incidents. now, complicating these talks was that downing of a russian warplane by turkey earlier this week. it overshadowed the talks between president hollande and president obama in washington on tuesday and threatened to derail
the talks yesterday in moscow. but the question right now is that the u.s. wants russia to focus more on fighting isis rather than propping up the government of bashar al assad. putin, however, says that he wants to cooperate in this fight against isis and that assad's future should be left in the hands of the syrian people. so certainly there are a lot of questions on what this will all mean going forward, as europe really tries to double down on this threat of isis. everyone agrees that it's a massive threat. the question is exactly what to do about it and who will join in that fight and as part of what coalition. >> okay. i stand corrected. thank you for that. obviously president hollande was 9:30 a.m. local time at that poignant ceremony memorializing those that were killed in attacks two weeks ago. for more on the fight against isis i'm joined by congressman charlie dent of pennsylvania. congressman, good day to you. thank you for joining me. >> thank you, alex. thanks for having me. >> so you have heard vladimir
putin say that russia will keep cooperating with the u.s. coalition to fight isis. good sign? >> well, not necessarily. look, we have to understand that our friends and allies and partners in that region, many of them have different goals and objectives than we do when it comes to isis. i'm not calling vladimir putin a partner and ally. he certainly has different objectives in the middle east than we do. let's face it. turkey has three objectives. one, to keep down the kurds, two, to take down assad and three, to go after isis. in that order. russia, on the other hand, their goal is to protect assad and their naval base and to undermine american power and influence in the region. we in the west, on the other hand, are most focused on isis. what we need right now is strong american leadership to help develop a political and military strategy to defeat isis. and the political side of this is very important. you just in your clip just before i came on, it was very
clear to me that getting that political consensus is very hard given the lack of shared goals for the region by many of the folks who are players there right now like the russians, americans and turks, et cetera. >> but what is it, sir, about isis that brings the u.s. and russia together when other past international crises just like the syrian civil war, that's not been able to bridge the gap? >> well, what's interesting about the isis threat is this. there are many people like the turks and i will say the gulf arab states who believe that as long as bashar al assad remains in power, and continues to drop barrel bombs and commit atrocities against his people, that will create more isis fighters. that is their view. vladimir putin of course wants to protect assad so there's this debate among western officials about how do we engage russia in
a coherent manner. look, we just had that situation where the turks shot down the russian jet. again, because of different goals and objectives. the russians so far have been gearing their firepower on a lot of folks other than isis. many of the opponents of the assad regime but not necessarily isis. that's been part of the problem. also targeting apparently the turkmen who are obviously aligned with the turks. so again, we are back to this whole problem of getting our political goals aligned in a more coherent manner with not only the turks but also the russians. >> yeah. all right, congressman charlie dent. it's clearly a very complicated situation. thank you for giving us some of the back story as well. we'll see you again. meantime, let's get right back to our top story, the protests over the police killing of laquan mcdonald which are happening right now. the protesters are bringing their call for justice and police accountability to chicago's magnificent mile. that is one of the busiest shopping districts in the i stf chicago.
the reverend jesse jackson leading the rally spoke moments ago. all right. we will hope to hear from him once again. let's go straight to msnbc's adam reese along the protest route. the latest you are hearing from the demonstrators and how much longer this may go on as well because most of them have made that ten-block trek from start to finish. >> reporter: right. we made our way all the way down to water tower. that was the original plan by the protesters to make their way down, and now they are actually headed back up about another ten blocks. the police have really stayed on the sidelines. we have seen some bicycle officers stay along the sidelines but right now, seems to be pretty calm. they are keeping a close eye on some of the stores. if you take a look over here, neiman marcus right behind me, the police officers are keeping a close eye on that.
victoria's secret, banana republic, there is some concern there could be some damage. so far it's stayed pretty calm. paul joins me now. paul, you came out here today. tell me how's it going? are you satisfied that the protest is going well and what is really the number one, two and three goals you have out here today? >> sure. sure. very satisfied that the protest is going well. earlier there was a very large crowd. i think we showed the city that what's happening regarding our police is very important to average citizens and in terms of what we hope to accomplish by coming out here, what we hope is to make the future a little better for our children. i'm a father of a 10-year-old boy, african-american boy, and the notion that he might not be able to walk down the street without fearing that a chicago police officer or anyone would just take the action of shooting him without really good cause,
and nothing being done about it, is something i didn't want to see happen. i felt like it was really important to communicate that by just showing how upset we are about the actions the city has taken up until this time. >> reporter: thank you, paul. the marchers are continuing, alex, up michigan avenue going south and pretty much they have been allowed to freely walk. again, the officers are staying on the sidelines. in terms of black friday, the magnificent mile here, there has not been a lot of shopping. alex? >> i was going to ask you, it looks like the crowd is dispersed largely from the street itself and people are much more along the sidewalks. are they blocking the entrances to stores? are you seeing that? or is it just that's where people are walking along and moving? >> reporter: it does appear that the protesters are at the front door. there, for example, neiman marcus, it looks as though they are blocking the doors.
it's hard to tell from here. i can tell you, michigan avenue has essentially been shut down for the last couple hours as these hundreds of protesters march south back up michigan avenue and as you mentioned, it has essentially shut this area down. they are protesting the shooting of laquan mcdonald. a number of shootings recently here in chicago. they want justice. they want accountability. >> we will let you get in off the street for a little bit and certainly get back to you. he mentions a couple of shootings. the other, 9-year-old tyshawn lee, part of a gangland style shooting, a child that was executed, shot in the back as well as in the face. it's a pretty horrible time there in chicago. but we will take a short break on msnbc. i am totally blind.
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bunch of happy people there. the scene at a target in new jersey, one of the first stores to open their doors for the black friday rush. right now, millions are still out looking to take advantage of all those deep discounts. this year, retail experts are predicting shoppers will spend more this weekend than over the same period last year. for more on all this, i'm joined by msnbc's olivia sterns in times square for us. take it away. looks kind of busy where you are. >> reporter: it is very merry here already. nearly 100 million americans, nearly one in three of us, will go shopping today on black friday. while we have been talking for the past couple days about how it feels, like it's no longer about just one day, it feels more like black november because retailers have been rolling out sales earlier, plus now we can shop online, take some of the momentum perhaps out of friday, this is still actually the super bowl of retail and according to
shopper track, this year, black friday is actually going to beat out the saturday before christmas, making today the busiest shopping day of the year. another year, another black friday frenzy. this morning, stores across the country just survived the most chaotic hours of the year for consumers. that now even carve into thanksgiving. doors opening at 5:00 and 6:00 p.m. thursday evening and lines forming long before that. >> tonight we will have some fun. >> reporter: the ceo of target giving a pep talk to workers ahead of the opening blitz. this year, retailers say the deepest discounts and hottest items are coming in the form of tvs, teddy bears and toys. with plenty of stores getting a boost from a certain force awakening within "star wars" fans for this year's most anticipated film. with nearly 136 million american expected to shop this weekend,
the buying power goes beyond brick and mortar billions of dollars being spent online, up 22% over last year. how about online shopping? >> yes. that's my favorite. >> reporter: why? >> because there's no lines. >> and i think you get better deals. >> reporter: more than a quarter of those sales coming on mobile devices. tablets and smartphones now a key part of shopping savvy. >> we want them to shop in our stores but we know most of their shopping experiences start online. with that mobile device. so that's a critically important way for us to connect with that guest. >> reporter: keeping black friday a holiday tradition no matter where you check out. >> black friday is actually still a very significant event. honestly, it's grown i think in popularity. >> reporter: if you do decide to brave the crowds and actually come to a brick and mortar store, don't forget your smartphone. many retailers are actually
trying out new technology that will push special deals and discounts to your phone if you download the app. >> i was just hearing about that which is pretty cool for all the online shoppers. okay. right in the heart of things in times square. certainly a very different scene playing out in another very busy shopping area, that being chicago's magnificent mile along michigan avenue. that is where protesters are bringing their call for justice over the death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald and police accountability, they are taking it to the streets. joining me by phone is vic mensa, a chicago rapper who has been involved in the protests these past few days. with a welcome to you, where are you right now? are you on the ground? are you part of this march? >> yeah, i'm on michigan avenue right now. >> okay. >> by the water tower. >> it looks like dreary weather out there which means folks have come out for good intention. it's not like a stroll there. it's cold and it's wet so why did you go out there? what do you want to see change?
>> what we want is we want resignation from police superintendent gary mccarthy, anita alvarez and rahm emanuel, also obstruction of justice for covering up events that transpired to laquan mcdonald's death and a general lack of concern and respect for the people's right and for black people of chicago. >> so that's a tall order, asking for the resignation of three very prominent figures there in the city of chicago. >> yes, it is. >> if you don't get that, is there something that you feel will make this particular march all worthwhile? >> this is a largely rotten system. it's not one bad incident that people are out here protesting against. it's not small changes that we really want.
we want an overall upheaval of the way that the police force is ran. there are officers in the police force, even van dyke before shooting laquan mcdonald, had 20 unsustained complaints from the people of chicago. there are officers on the police force right now with 68 unsustained complaints. it just hasn't caught a high profile murder on a dash cam camera yet. but are terrorizing the citizens of this city. i think the people in charge of that system and also the police review authority that's letting cops go for so many of these different offenses, all those people need to go. >> all right. well, you are correct in the 20 citizens complaints there against the officer. that was between the years of 2008 and 2013. we are monitoring this as well as the march. thank you so much for weighing in and sharing your opinions with us. straight ahead, we have belgium charging a new suspect with terrorism.
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approaching 40 past the hour. let's head back overseas now. a federal prosecutor in belgium confirming that police have charged another suspect with terrorism. nbc's claudio lavanga is joining us from brussels. what do we know about this arrest? >> reporter: well, what we know is that yesterday, the police arrested another man who was later charged with terrorist murders and participation in activities with a terrorist organization. now, we do not know who this person is but it's a lot of speculation around here, let me tell you, that this person may well be salah abdeslam. now, the eighth attacker, the one who did not activate his explosive belt, the one who has been on the run, the lead suspect linked to the terrorist attacks in paris, still at large apart from the other one,
mohammad abrini. well, now why the speculation? because first of all, it's the first time the prosecution has charged someone with -- directly with terrorist murders and not only with participation in a terrorist organization. secondly, that they not name him and thirdly, yesterday after he was arrested, they lowered the threat level from the highest to level 3. now, of course, that only is fueling that speculation. >> okay. so this is the first we have heard of that. if this is salah abdeslam, do we know the area where he was captured, whoever this terror suspect is? was it the area that was home for him? >> we do not know where he was arrested. the statement was very thin. they gave very little information and made it clear they are not going to comment on it. they do hope tomorrow or the next few days, we will hear a
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turning to politics now. the top tier candidates in the republican presidential race are already turning their attention back to the task at hand. donald trump is back on the trail in florida tomorrow with a rally in sarasota. ben carson is trying to quiet critics of his recent statement on foreign policy with a surprise trip overseas to meet with syrian refugees. we are joined now from washington. let's talk specifically about ben carson's trip. this is a man who said he didn't want to welcome any syrian refugees into the united states
and yet he is going on the heels of saying it's always better to get information first-hand. how is this going to play out? >> well, i think for mr. carson and everyone else who is in the republican field, the interesting thing will be if anything changes in their positions regarding the syrian refugee admission process after carson meets with the refugees, or as other people learn more about what exactly is in be the current syrian refugee admission program and the 18 to 24 months of vetting that the administration says they are currently doing. if nothing else, this sort of holiday came at a time where it gave people who are looking at what to do about this program a bit of a pause in their own right and i think that after carson gets back, we might see if anything has changed with him or anyone else in regards to what they're thinking. >> how much was he put on the
ropes, if you will, by his statements and the criticism? did he have to do something, at least the optics of something? >> well, when you are an outsider candidate, i think you certainly have to do something more than necessarily someone who might be, say, if you are marco rubio or someone who is a lawmaker. you certainly have to do more when it comes to foreign policy questions to sort of prove your bona fides, i would think. this trip seems like the kind of thing that would be one of those efforts. >> okay. it's a brief discussion but thank you for joining us from washington. let's turn to the business of the trump campaign and the accessory which is synonymous with his candidacy. jacob soboroff is joining us. you have a first-hand look at those hats. >> turns out these hats are made right here, the make america great again hats in the los angeles area. i went to the factory in carson to check them out and given that 67% of latino voters told nbc news recently that they strongly
dislike donald trump, you will be surprised who is making these hats and what they have to say about the candidates. >> reporter: i see them all over the place. has it been constant order? >> it has been constant. like i said, it's a small portion of our business. >> reporter: how did you get the trump gig? >> he's been a customer for ten years. and when they came to us earlier this year, they gave us the slogan, we created his personal hat and once he wore it, things picked up. >> reporter: at a place where you have 80% latino work force, you have a guy kind of controversial in the latino community. how did you approach that with your workers? >> i basically told them up front that we are going to be doing this order, we are going to be working a lot of overtime and we know that it is controversial but it's an order. and we would take any basic order to keep the work flow
going. >> reporter: what is your family lineage? >> mexican. >> reporter: how about you? >> hispanics. all born here in the united states. >> reporter: when you heard you will make the hats for trump, what was your first thought? >> more work for us. >> reporter: some of the stuff he said has not been particularly nice to the latino community. when you guys hear that, what do you think? >> i just try to ignore it. just work. >> reporter: trump says hispanics love me. is that true? >> no comment. >> reporter: no comment. how about you? >> no comment on that also. >> reporter: no comment on that one. you got any comments? >> no. i got no comment. >> reporter: would you say you live the american dream? >> yes. why not? >> reporter: yes and no? >> yes, yes and no. >> reporter: one of donald trump's messages is he wants to bring business back to the united states. how difficult is it to be in the garment business in america, southern california? >> it is extremely difficult. our jobs have gone obviously
overseas to asia. in the '90s when everybody left to china, we joined them but at the same time, we kept our factory. a lot of our employees have worked for us since the beginning or for the last 20 years. skrirks products. if donald trump came here and wanted to see you making the hats, what would you say to the guy? >> we would take a picture with you. >> take a picture with you? do i look like trump? >> no. >> you look -- i look better than trump. >> so alex, you know, whatever their politics are, the workers and the owner at this thriving small american business are very, very respectful of trump and very grateful to the order. i reached out to the trump campaign. no word back. >> i wonder if they have any comment by the fact we are going to say it, you are better looking than donald trump. >> i'll take it. i'll tell my wife. >> please do. thank you so much. >> thanks, alex.
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creed. he's a kid, whats a job and boxing is in his blood and seeks out rocky to train him to become a star boxer. a lot of heart. really great feel-good movie and audience pleaser for sure. >> family fair, "good dinosaur." >> this is not the best and maybe not as much heart as some of the other stories inside out was a huge. >> fantastic. >> fantastic. it's not going to make as much money as "inside out" did but they had changes with the cast and production irkss and it's pixar. you can depend on it. >> the thing about "inside out" also for adults. great humor and enjoyed it as parents, as well. what about "mockingjay part 2"? the end of the big series. >> i'm a fan. i started -- i read the books and so excited to see these movies and jennifer lawrence is always fantastic.
this movie didn't the perform as well, made about 100 last weekend opening which is $100 million. >> only. >> which is funny people said only 100 million and so significantly less than the other movies but it's the finale. you followed the series, you have to go see it. jennifer lawrence is incredible in it. it's a sadder kind of movie. it is not the most happy and it is incredible and jennifer lawrence is fantastic. >> talking about money, "star wars," i mean, that is the big bluster one we think of the yore. >> yeah, yeah. already has the record advance ticket sales and a new trailer released yesterday and it makes you want to see even more. more of the villains and driver and we have seen harrison ford. no luke kiwalker still. this is the big question, where is he? >> till to come. i guess you have to see go see it. >> yes. >> good to see you. >> thank you so much. we're continuing the follow
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on michigan avenue. i want to show you what's going on here right now. saks fifth avenue here, tiffany, victor victoria's secret, banana republic, polo. each and every store is blocked, not allowing shoppers in. a minute ago, a family came by here and tried to get in here and they were blocked. a lot of shoppers here look really bewildered about what's going on. eugene is joining me now. tell me, you just blocked a shopper, a family trying to get in. what's the purpose of blocking off all the stores? >> the purpose of blocking off the stores to send a message economic economy. we want to send a message. these 16 shots impacted all of us. and so, this is just one part of a movement to send our voice economically as well as politically getting in that voting booth. every election, every politician needs to be on alert we are
serious about this t incident that took place and sending a message today, tomorrow, every week all the way up until every election in the city. >> what specifically needs to be done? >> what needs to happen is that our elected officials need to be more trance parent than they are, than they have been and to understand that we will not tolerate for a systems, multiple systems, to fail us and to lie to us and deceive us and cover up what we know to be true. that young man suffered 16 shots. he was murdered. we want understand everyone to >> reporter: scant police presence here. when the protest was happening, there was a line of police officers on bikes but now look here. there's only a handful of officers as this goes on as each and every store along this busy shopping district, the magnificent mile, michigan avenue, very little police
presence here. really wondering where they are. >> interesting. adam, thank you. joining me now on the phone is susan burkes for wgn. good afternoon. >> good afternoon. >> what are you making 0 of all of this? are you hearing the same thing that adam was talking about? there are not many police out there. has that been your experience? >> there definitely was an increased police presence at the onset of the protest today on bikes and via foot. i still see them at erie in the middle of the magnificent mile and still seeing a lot of police but what we're seeing as folks that already spoken to, lots of major store fronts are blocked by protesters, with linked arms telling folks not to come in and do business. and police definitely police presence and a lot of unmarked vehicles starting to notice, as well. but not as many as at the
beginning of the protest most certainly. >> adam was saying that they're being very successful so far in blocking entry to stores. they chose black friday which is the busiest shopping day of the year. a day that a lot of these stores count on to kick off their holiday season. is there any response from the stores upon seeing their shoppers being rejected by protesters? >> yes. it was kind of -- it was almost like looking in at animals at the zoo, when the apple store was blocked off here on michigan avenue, pokes just felt kind of trapped inside and the workers looking outside. a little, you know, there's a little bit of fear and seem to be targeting the major stores. at&t, crate & barrel, apple. the stores you would think would stand to benefit the most from black friday. as far as the storekeepers, unrest and fear and water tower
itself was shut down for a while and people seem to be going on but with an increased level of fear. >> susan, thank you very much. all of this is happening on the biggest shopping day of the year, black friday, as millions hit shopping centers taking advantage of the deep discounts. security is much tighter due to anxiety following the paris attacks but so far that doesn't appear to be slowing shoppers down much. the national retail federation estimates about 135.8 million consumers will be shopping in the four-day weekend compared to 133.7 million last year. sarah dallof joins me now. sarah? >> reporter: good afternoon. officials are on the hunt for any potential threats or problems given the events worldwide over the last few weeks. there are more security guards
and police on the street and say a lot of work done behind the scenes to keep people safe. meanwhile, the crowds here beginning to really fill in. there was a lull this morning in between when the big box stores had the door buster deals and whether the malls here opened today and it has been picking up here in atlanta as well as across the nation. black friday sales expected to be down a little bit this year, about 2%, and cyber monday deals expected to rise about 5%. overall, expecting a profit or money around $630 billion for retailers. the average american spending about $830 on their holiday shopping. the hot toys this year, anything electronic. gaming systems, i pads. "star wars" toys expected to be very big and with dolls it was elsa and "frozen" the movie. this year it's in the past and
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paris is preparing the host a massive summit on climate change beginning on monday. world leaders including president obama will be in the french capital for the event. it comes just two weeks after that deadly terrorist attack. today, in paris, french president hollande led his country in a somber service to pay tribute to the 130 lives lost. nbc's gabe gutierrez is in paris for us. hollande is back after his meeting with russian president vladimir putin in moscow on thursday. what was the big headline to come out of that meeting? >> reporter: hi, melissa. good evening from paris. headline from that meeting was cooperation but no official coalition. and at least not yet. russian president vladimir putin agreed to share intelligence of isis activities and coordinate air strikes to avoid dangerous incidents. but still, there is no
broad-based coalition of the type that french president hollande is seeking to battle isis. complicating matters is the downing of russian wearplane by turkey. it overshadowed hollande's meeting with president obama in washington on tuesday. and u.s. wants russia to focus more on fighting isis rather than propping up the assad government in syria. but assad, meanwhile, says that the fate of -- excuse me, putin said that the fate of the assad government should be in the hands of the syrian people. the efforts earlier in the week that hollande had been trying very hard to build this coalition, today he was back in paris this morning in a very emotional ceremony. as you mentioned, remembering the lives lost, 130 victims. some of the survivors were there, as well. even came in wheelchairs to pay their respects and to remember those lives lost.
throughout paris today, we have also seen flags draped across homes and businesses, unusual show of patriotism here from the trench people who often don't show their flags in that sense. so france still trying, still reeling from the attacks two weeks ago. melissa? >> gabe, in paris for us, thank you. for more let's bring in contributor and former special agent of the fbi, nypd joint terror task force, don barelli. thank you for being here today. yesterday, the big thanksgiving day parade, the holidays. normally we do see a lot of beefed up security. i have seen it on the subways. we just had a report from penn station. some of this is normal for the holidays. is this the new reality? >> well, i think to a certain degree it is. and as you mentioned, it is always normal for beefed up security, heavy travel days where we have, you know events like the parade and so forth. it is normal to see that extra
security. but, of course, in light of what happened in paris, the police and the fbi aren't going to take chances and want to have that show of force out there and if anybody is thinking about it. we hear the term soft targets. makes the soft targets a lot harder. >> show of force is definitely helpful i think making people feel more safe and comfortable but are we not seeing? how much are we not seeing as far as the efforts keeping everyone safe? >> a lot. the real focus of what the fbi and the police are trying to do is prevent attacks and that starts with good intelligence, building those intelligence networks, mentioned intelligence sharing with the foreign partners, human sources, human surveillance where it's warranted and all of these things and following up on the leads to identify potential threats ahead of time. >> so often when something terrible happens, feels like the
reactions are very defensive. chases people. trying to find them and figure out what happened. how much of of our actions are offensive? especially here in the u.s. as compared to defensive. >> well, we have seen those cases in the past where people have been arrested and brought to trial and we have had undercover operations, for example, inserted in to try to identify you know, lone wolves and people conspireing, maybe looking to travel to syria to join the isis fight. so you do have an offensive mentali mentality, especially on the intelligence gathering side, but it's important to note that the situation here is a bit different than what they have in paris. >> how so? >> well, it's possible but it's not likely that we would have these sleeper cells. what i mean is in paris groups of terrorists heavily trained and armed and we saw likely a level of coordination between
what happened in paris and in syria. it's not likely that that's the same scenario here. a more likely scenario is a lone wolf-type person looking to steal the headlines from paris. >> thank you so much. >> thank you. we are following some breaking news in colorado. reports of an active shooter in colorado springs. the local police department using social immediate i don't to advise the public to stay away from the area. a local business said officers told them to lock their doors and not let anyone in or out. we'll continue the follow this story and bring you more information as it becomes available. we'll be right back. believe it.
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use clorox disinfecting products. because no one kills germs better than clorox. we are following breaking news in colorado. reports of an active shooter in colorado springs. local police department is using social media to advise the public to stay away from the area. a local business tells msnbc that officers told them to lock their doors and not let anybody
in or out. let's bring back don barelli. what do you think is going on, as far as law enforcement is concerned right now? we just heard that people are being told to lock their doors, don't let anybody inside or out. >> trying to eliminate the threat. simply put. you know, if identify where the shooter is. if it's a single person, more than one person. and contain the situation. keep the public safe and eliminate the threat. however they can. >> what is the first concern here? >> public safety, of course. you know, if somebody in a crowded area, black friday, shopping area, out and about. you know? so an active shooter situation obviously can be very doing rus and do a lot of damage quickly depending on the level of weapons they have, training, so on and so forth and want to eliminate that threat as soon as possible and kind of a new training. every police department now trains for these situations
which i guess is a good thing. sad we're at this point and they do train for these and officers are taught now to go and address the threat quickly. not just sit and wait and try to negotiate but in these cases negotiations don't work well most of the time and e almost nate the threat quickly. >> let's bring law enforcement analyst special agent jim cavanaugh by telephone. what do you know so far? what are you hearing? >> just reports that you have seen that colorado springs police asked everybody kind of to stay in place and shots near planned parenthood. planned parenthood facilities are usually very fall facilities. they have been under attack over the years and don knows this because being atf and fbi we work together. many of the bombings on clinics.
eric rudolph put a bomb at the facility in alabama. sometimes they have been subject of attacks. so that's why it's a -- you know, particularly discerning report hearing it could be an attack on planned parenthood. now, it also could be a threat and not necessarily a -- you know, a huge attack. it could be somebody called in a threat or somebody could have heard a noise. we don't quite know what's going on. normally those are smaller facilities and uniformed patrol officers will do what don said. the first thing to do when they get there is to locate the shooter. and that's not so simple. you know, witness may know but they have to convey to police and if you're a witness and convey location of a shooter is critical. description, as well. whether you text it, call it in to 911, get that location.