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hi, everybody. i'm thomas roberts. we begin with breaking news from chicago, a major fall from grace for chicago's top cop after a deadly police shooting scandal that has rocked that city. the mayor rahm emanuel revealing just last hour he asked police superintendent gary mccarthy to resign. >> he has become an issue rather than dealing with the issue. and a distraction. i have a lot of loyalty to what he's done and him, but i have a bigger loyalty to the city of chicago, its future and the strength of that future, and no one person trumps my commitment and my responsibility to the city of chicago and its future. >> the city up in arms and in protest after the disturbing police dash-cam video of the shooting death of laquan mcdonald surfaced. here's more from mayor emanuel.
>> the use of excessive force and misuse of authority is not new in chicago or isolated only to chicago. there's a history of it. for whatever progress we have made, the killing of laquan mcdonald is a vivid reminder that we have much more work to do as a city. >> today, the cop charged with first degree murder in the death of mcdonald is out on a $150,000 bond. nbc's john yang has been following this story. he joins us now from chicago. on john, was this a surprise we would see the police superintendent being asked to resign? >> as late as about 7:40 this morning here in chicago, gary mccarthy was doing television interviews. once a month he does the round of morning shows, local television news shows here in chicago. this was his day to do it for
december. he had gave no inkling in ananyf these conversations this was coming. wmaq in chicago was reporting he was summoned to city hall at 8:00 this morning and according to sources was seen leaving not very happy. now we know why. of course, just last friday, he was asked about his position with the mayor and he said that first of all, he said he was not a quitter, he's never quit anything in his life and he also said the mayor had assured him that quote, the mayor has my back. it turns out that it was not unlimited, that backing, and it ran out today. i think that clip you heard from emanuel talking about how mccarthy had become the issue rather than handling the issue, i think you are likely to see the mayor himself become an
issue. you might have heard if you listened to the press conference a lot of questions about whether there was any political considerations into the timing of all this. let me remind you of some dates. february 24th of this year, mayor emanuel was in the first round of his re-election. he failed to reach the 50% which meant he had to go into a run-off. three days later, he told us at the press conference today, laquan mcdonald's family approached the city to talk about a possible lawsuit and the corporation council in reviewing that tape recommended that the city council pay $5 million to the family to preempt a lawsuit, and he said that videotape was crucial. on april 7, the mayor wins re-election. on april 15th, the city council votes 47-0 to approve that $5 million payment. thomas?
>> hindsight will be 20/20 for a lot of facts coming forward in this case, especially given the fact the videotape of the death of mcdonald came out a year after this all happened. let's talk about what this press conference was originally scheduled for. i was it was to announce this oversight commission for accountability by the police and this firing stole the headline. >> that's right. the mayor was appointing a five-member task force of prominent chicagoans to be advised by duval patrick, former governor of massachusetts, former head of the civil rights division of the justice department and a chicago native, i might add, to oversee, to take a look at the accountability of the police department to the people of chicago and to try to figure out how to rebuild the trust that has been so badly shattered by this incident and that really did lead to the firing or mayor emanuel's request that mccarthy resign.
he sort of -- the announcement was made last night this press conference would be held and this was going to be what the mayor was going to talk about. it was roundly criticized, sort of seen as buying time, seen as a standard politician's or mayor's city official's response to name a commission to look into this, to recommend action early next year. but apparently, he concluded by this morning before he met the press that mccarthy had to go. >> john yang in chicago, thank you. joining us now is cornell william brooks, president and ceo of the naacp. he was arrested along with some preachers in protest on monday. good to have you with me. first, your reaction to the mayor firing the police superintendent in chicago. >> well, first of all i want to
say that it is a significant step forward and may well be necessary but not sufficient. meaning a change in personalities and leadership even at that level is necessary but not sufficient. the abuses and misconduct of the chicago police department go back over a generation so when we have a police department that has racked up in excess of a half billion dollars in legal settlements, $50 million in a single year, $5 million most recently to the family of laquan mcdonald, and where we have 10,000 complaints filed, 19 of which resulted in significant disciplinary actions, we have a culture of a -- characterized by a lack of accountability, lack of transparency. the point being we have to root
out the problem, root and branch. so it's not enough to simply change personalities, not enough to simply pull together a task force which will likely bring forth recommendations that we are already aware of. the challenge before the city of chicago and the mayor is to make this police department representative of one of america's greatest cities. that is to say, a police department that respects its citizens, that does not abridge their rights under the laws of the state of illinois and the ordinances of the city of chicago, or the laws of this country. we have seen that again and again. when you have a police department that operates its own domestic guantanamo, when there's a police station in which people disappear and their rights are violated, this is a
problem. the point -- >> do you think, though, mayor emanuel is also a problem for leadership of that city? as he said, he should be held accountable as well to the people of chicago. is this the first step in what we might see in a long process of leadership changes for that city? >> i'm not going to stare into a crystal ball and predict his political future. >> what would the naacp want moving forward from the city of chicago if you are asking for cultural change within these trusted institutions? what would the naacp want? >> the naacp has called for an independent civilian review board with the authority, with the subpoena power to hold the police department accountable. number two, a thorough top-down review of the police department in terms of ensuring is integrity, transparency and responsiveness to the citizens of chicago.
number three, training that reflects the norms and values of community policing. four, implementation of the very recommendations the president put forward through his 21st century policing task force. five, we have also stood for and quite strongly at the federal level support for the law enforcement trust and integrity act and the end racial profiling act. the point being here is we know the answer to police misconduct and police brutality. the challenge for us is ensuring the answers match the questions and that we address the question with sufficient urgency. that's the responsibility and the task before mayor emanuel. >> cornell william brooks, president of the naacp, thanks for taking the time. i appreciate it. msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber joins me now. what do you think about the argument that the mayor used about the police superintendent
and having to go? >> well, the argument that the mayor put forward today was essentially two-fold. one, he couldn't really look at this video or this evidence because it was an open criminal inquiry and two, his commissioner there, superintendent mccarthy, did a great job but has lost the trust of the community. argument number one is essentially misleading or essentially legally false, thomas. in the sense that there is civilian oversight of the police. that means ongoing, informed management of police which is going to involve talking to police, sometimes it will involve looking at evidence, sometimes it will involve looking at videos. will there be open criminal inquiries? of course there are. i think the mayor is referring to a good idea that yes, he has to be careful not to prejudice an open investigation, but to say that he can't look at it is really out of bounds. really misleading. one other point. i know we are short on time. you were asking an important question, what else could be done substantively. look, chicago can change its rules. it could change the confidentiality around videos
when it does these settlements, they often have a confidentiality clause. they did in mcdonald case. they don't have to do that. they can settle and not be private. there is no public interest in keeping it secret. i would note in closing they spent half a billion dollars in settlements in the last decade. these kind of police abuse allegations are expensive for the city. >> this is an example of the lack of transparency in the city of chicago. it was just before this news that the superintendent did do an interview with our nbc station in chicago. john yang spoke about that. and about what we are learning. take a listen. >> so at that point i was too involved in trying to learn the circumstances of this event and what i needed to do internally and externally and communications is part of that. no two ways about it. but in this particular case, my greatest concern was the fact that information came from elsewhere that said he had lunged at the officers which we knew not to be the case. >> it seems there's a lot of cleanup going on in chicago when it comes to the death of laquan
mcdonald. the city paid out millions of dollars before any type of criminal investigation came forward, then they kept it private and this video didn't see the light of day until a year after this teen's death. so when we talk about substantial change for chicago, is that going to mean better accountability for these cops, complete change when it comes to the next superintendent? i believe they have a person in there that has 29 years of service who is a former 14th district commander. that seems like same old, same old. >> certainly coming from within the ranks, that's an interim person, in addition to firing the chief, the mayor said he will do a big search. the sound you just played was fascinating from this morning. that's mccarthy basically having no answer, no real explanation for why he and his department let it stand for a year, this incorrect assertion they made that mcdonald was lunging at the officer with a knife. that's important.
officers do face very serious threats. if someone was lunging with a knife that might authorize the use of deadly force. but mccarthy says he saw the video, the one we were just discussing rahm didn't see, knew there was no lunge and didn't correct the information publicly. that's the kind of thing rahm would want to see the next chief avoid doing and find mechanisms to avoid doing it. >> ari melber, thank you. i appreciate it. coming up, it is a super tuesday. we are laser focused on the candidates and their ground game. the all-important february 1st iowa caucus two months ago with the clock ticking. the 2016 presidential candidates are out in full force. today we are asking you to weigh in on the republican side. will gop in sirnlsurgents ultim beat the establishment? stick around. this is the one place we're not afraid to fail. some of these experiments may not work. but a few might shape the future. like turning algae into biofuel...
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gop front-runner donald trump on the stump and once again threatening to back out of a debate. the new threat came last night during a speech just two weeks before the next republican debate in las vegas. >> how about we do this with cnn. i won't do the debate unless they pay me $5 million, all of which money goes to the wounded warriors or go to vets. seriously. i would love that. if i do it, i have a feeling i could face repercussions in the polls. should i do it? i don't know if i want to take the chance. i don't know. >> all this coming as trump continues to take heat for his comments about muslims in new jersey cheering 9/11. on monday, new jersey governor chris christie, who has been criticized for appearing to hedge on that matter came out with a very forceful statement about trump's facts.
>> it didn't happen. the fact is that, you know, people can say anything but the facts are the facts. that did not happen in new jersey that day. it hasn't happened since. >> nbc's katy tur has been following the trump campaign. great to have you here in person. let's start with the debate. this is a similar threat donald trump has made before. remind us how that played out or paid out. >> he did this before the last debate. he didn't actually go through with it. he said that cnn should actually pay or donate the money they were making off the big ratings that he was getting them and donate it to wounded warriors. that turned out to be an empty threat. this is probably going to turn out to be an empty threat as well. donald trump gets the double whammy here. he gets to bash the media and gets to support, appear to support veterans which is going to play well for him on the campaign trail, as it has. look at the big cheers. >> looking like the hero.
now we move on to the 9/11 controversy, the comments that he made. trump is saying this a "the new york post" editorial which claims there was cheering is proof he was right. here's what former new york mayor rudy giuliani said about this controversy earlier today. >> we had very, very little. we had some language, we had some yelling and screaming. i can't give you a count of the number of acts of violence. but nothing really serious. and we did have some reports of people celebrating that day while the towers were coming down. >> if there had been thousands of people -- >> i would have known that for sure. >> so giuliani, america's mayor after 9/11, saying donald trump is exaggerating. is the onus now on trump to clean up the mess? >> the onus has always been on trump to clean up the mess, to say this was not true, he did not in fact see thousands of people celebrating in new jersey when the towers came down. he might have seen thousands of people celebrating in gaza but
he certainly didn't see new jersey because that did not happen. people have come out to say it did not happen. law enforcement, mayors like rudy giuliani, news organizations who have combed through their records have said this simply did not happen. there were ornly rumors and if t did happen, it was pockets of a few people. but he won't back down from it. when you say why don't you produce that video that you saw, he says i promise you it will come out at some point. >> katy tur, good to see you. thank you very much. msnbc anchor and political correspondent steve kornacki is in the newsroom with more on this. explain how this is going to either play out for donald trump or work against donald trump? it doesn't seem like anything works against him when it comes to the polls. >> let's take a look at this statement from rudy giuliani. giuliani is basically saying trump is exaggerating here, it wasn't thousands, it was maybe dozens. that's the claim giuliani made on cnn this morning specifically
to support that claim, this is what rudy giuliani said. >> we had one situation in which a candy store owned by a muslim family was celebrating that day right near a housing development and the kids in the housing development came in and beat them up. i think both facts were corroborated to be true. they were celebrating that the towers had come down and some of the kids in the housing development got really upset about it and came in and did a pretty good job beating them up. >> here's rudy giuliani saying that after 9/11, there was a group of muslims at a candy store in new york city celebrating the fall of the twin towers and that a group of kids came over and beat them up because they were angry. that is giuliani's support for this claim. however, we went back and looked at all the news articles we could find from around 9/11 in new york city. the only incident we could find involving a candy store that
matched roughly what giuliani is describing played out very differently than what he's describing here. this is from "the new york daily news" september 13, 2011. the headline is "my first-hand view of bias's fist." it says this, yesterday i saw first-hand how anger over the world trade center attack turns on muslims who call new york home. at 4:30 p.m., five teen arnager stopped in front of the american muslim community, a closet sized candy store with makeshift mosque in the back room. the store's owner stood in the doorway. one of the boys asked him do you feel sorry for america? the kid then gave him a knockout punch in the face that sent him reeling backwards and on to the floor. blood spurted all over his plaid shirt. the floor and a pair of sneakers left by a man who was praying. his dentures cracked in two. that appears to be the incident rudy giuliani is referring to. we reached out to giuliani to
ask him if it indeed is or if there's another incident involving a candy store that wasn't reported on that he knows about. we haven't heard back. again, it's possible, maybe there's a second incident here that wasn't reported on but what giuliani was describing this morning apparently was reported very differently when it actually happened. >> we'll see if the highlights of what you found match up when we hear back from their office. steve kornacki, thank you for that. appreciate it. this hour, new jersey governor and republican presidential candidate chris christie will hold a drug recovery roundtable in new hampshire. this follows last month's viral video of christie using a personal story about a family friend to call for a more humane approach to drug addiction treatment. he marks his 50th visit to the key primary state and christie's focus appears to pay dividends. earlier he touted his bona fides for the white house and honed in on his experience over others in this race.
>> doesn't marco and barack obama share a similar biography? >> as do ted cruz and others in this race, who have no experience in governing. like i said last night, new is wonderful, it's great, shiny, untarnished and everybody loves new. it's really exciting. new is great. until you need experience. until the really tough moment comes. >> nbc's hallie jackson is live in waterville valley, new hampshire. how is christie's experience argument playing out with voters there as they all try to craft out their top three? >> reporter: and figure out who they will cast their ballot for come mid-february. at this point, it seems like people are listening, they are hearing chris christie's message but it's a little too soon to say whether it's resonating with them just yet. you talked about that politico piece that his new hampshire strategy is beginning to pay dividends. it may still be too early to see how this will pay off, this series of endorsements christie has picked up over these last few days not just from the union leader, the newspaper in new hampshire but the former speaker of the house who is endorsing today, whether christie can turn
it into real momentum. you talk with voters, this is a point christie made at a town hall just last night here in new hampshire, he says hey, i'm okay with being in your top three. i was okay with being in your top three but right now i want you to put me in that top first place position. time is sort of running out is his argument. he also points out that new hampshire voters probably won't be making decisions about who they will vote for until it gets closer to the time when they will actually cast their ballot. you are looking at after the christmas holiday, for example. i do think when you talk to folks they like that he's honest and straightforward. a couple of folks i talked to said we like that he has the experience in an executive office, running a state and making some of the tough decisions you will have to make as president. >> so he wants the granite state, he wants those votes, he has been there 50 times. new hampshire or bust it seems like for christie. does his campaign have a strategy after the new hampshire primary? >> reporter: they will talk about it, sure. but really right now, christie's laser focused on new hampshire. almost as much as any other or more so than any other candidate in this race. folks here in new hampshire that are involved in the political
scene tell me his organizational team, his sort of ground game as we call it, is one of the strongest in the state. he's sort of putting his eggs in this one basket here and hoping to make a very strong showing but right now, he's in seventh place in the standings. sure, the election is not today, not tomorrow, it's not until mid-february but christie has a lot of ground to make up if he plans to win this state. >> hallie jackson, thank you. we have a roundup of today's developing stories including an update on the owner of the disturbing photo of a dog with its mouth taped shut that went viral. we'll be right back. i absolutely love my new but the rent is outrageous. good thing geico offers affordable renters insurance. with great coverage it protects my personal belongings should they get damaged,
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here are the developing stories we are watching at this hour. police in alaska are investigating a range of possible causes in the death of mayor greg fisk. the newly elected mayor was found dead at his home by his son on monday. police have released few details but called rumors of an assault quote, speculation.
a new report says the response of pilots to a computer failure that led to the air asia crashed that killed 162 people last year, indonesia's national transportation safety committee says a cracked joint in the flight control computer caused the plane to veer off course, sending the pilots a series of warning messages. the pilots pulled a circuit breaker in an attempt to reset the computer which was against what they were trained to do. there are new details on a story we brought you yesterday on a woman who sparked national outrage over this facebook post that she posted of her dog's mouth wrapped in duct tape along with a caption, this is what happens when you don't shut up. the photo started a multi-state investigation which led to her arrest. police found her in north carolina. she faces a misdemeanor charge of cruelty to animals. she is set to appear in a north carolina courtroom on december 14th. maybe more social media backlash
to come. coming up next, breaking news out of the pentagon as the u.s. expands its role in the fight against isis. plus, the former apprentice contestant turned pastor. omarosa joins me live in the next hour to talk about donald trump. she was by his side after last night's meeting of african-american pastors but is she ready to throw him her support for president? plus keep voting on our pulse question of the day. will gop insurgents ultimately beat the establishment candidates?
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these remarks the president is making in paris about isis, how key is this new advisor to the president's military policy in the fight? >> reporter: well, when you think of all the ways the president can gain insight about the fight against isis from fellow world leaders who he was meeting with here in paris or his intelligence community or those who work in the white house, lots of different streams of information. defense secretary carter would be a point man for that. but by bringing all of those sorts of resources into the responsibility of one person, rob malley has a long career in national security, it's a way for the president to have sort of a go-to person on this issue. today the president told us that clearly, isis will remain a threat for a long time to come, extending beyond the 13 months the president has left in office, and today, he also hinted at one of the issues that has been raised in this campaign, military campaign, some saying there has been kind of a scarcity of air strikes on
the part of the united states and the president said that's not a function of planes or man power. it's been about intelligence. so when you heard secretary carter today talking about the force multiplier effect of having additional special operators in the region to help identify targets, that could then provide more sort of intelligence to locate targets that the u.s. could choose to strike. so there is sort of kind of an a and b to what we saw from the defense secretary and the president today. the president didn't talk about these additional troops. it was something that certainly the defense secretary in briefing congress talked about. but now looking back at what the president said, you could see perhaps some threads of his understanding that that plan is in place. so to have one person in the white house to be a point person could be a way to streamline it. at the same time, the president gets lots of briefings on this on a day-to-day basis and we certainly saw how important it was here in paris. thomas? >> kelly o'donnell in paris, thank you. we will turn to our colleague, nbc's luke russert, who joins us
from capitol hill. luke, let's talk more about the defense secretary, ash carter's announcement that the u.s. will send combat troops to iraq in the fight against isis. it seems like there is this shift that is drawing americans closer and closer to combat danger. >> reporter: interestingly enough, thomas, ash carter, the defense secretary, he said today in that hearing we are at war with isis but then sort of corrected himself, going along the lines of well, technically congress has to declare war. i think that's what really feeds into this confusion here on capitol hill, is the white house is operating under a 2001 and 2002 authorization for the use of military force. those were intended originally to go after al qaeda and the war on terror, and for the invasion of iraq to topple saddam hussein. they are still being used here and congress is being left on the sidelines, much because they don't want to get involved. however, this question about are we at war, it came up at the hearing on capitol hill. listen to joint chiefs chairman respond to it.
>> we are technically not at war. >> so if we are effectively not at war, let me ask you this. have we currently contained isil? >> we have not contained isil. >> have they been contained at any time since 2010? >> tactically in areas they have been. strategically, they have spread since 2010. >> reporter: the joint chiefs chairman also said the campaign had not been fully resourced since 2010. a lot of times they go to these hearings to try to answer questions and i think this one raised a lot more questions than we had before. >> nbc's luke russert, thank you. we turn our attention now to hillary clinton in montgomery, alabama helping celebrate the 60th anniversary of the montgomery bus boycott. she will speak from the same church where dr. martin luther king not only presided but also organized the boycotts after rosa parks famously said she would not give up her seat.
msnbc's alex seitz-wald joins me. this comes as hillary clinton releases a new ad targeting black voters in south carolina. talk more about the event today in montgomery. >> reporter: well, it was 60 years ago today that rosa parks famously refused to give up her seat, as you mentioned. just a few days after she was arrested for that act, local people gathered to organize a boycott and appointed the church's new pastor, martin luther king, to lead that effort which lasted about a year. hillary clinton will certainly pay homage to that and bernice king is giving the benediction. she will pay homage to the role lawyers paid in that movement. she will talk about her own civil rights agenda. politically, african-americans are critical to hillary clinton's lead over bernie sanders and she is trying to solidify that support both here in alabama before the state's march 1st primary and in south carolina with the new radio ad which is one of the earlier
primaries in february. >> alex, thank you. so we check in with the dr. ben carson campaign who just returned from jordan where he met with syrian refugees. he spoke with the "today" show's matt lauer. carson opposes resettling refugees in the u.s. matt's question, would he allow some of the refugees he met to come here. >> honestly, i don't think that's the issue. the issue is if we bring in tens of thousands of refugees into this country, have we solved the problem. the answer to that is no. why do things that just make some people feel good and say that we have done something? when in fact there are adequate solutions. >> carson's visit comes after numerous interviews and speeches that demonstrated a poor handling of foreign policy. our bing pulse question of the day is focusing on the 2016 republican candidates. we want to know if you think the
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and chris christie gaining traction in new hampshire striking out at the outsiders earlier on "morning joe." >> like i said last night, willie, news is great, shiny, untarnished and everybody loves new. it's exciting, great. until you need experience. until the tough moment comes. >> joining me now is katy tur, from new hampshire hallie jackson and kasie hunt. katy, let me start with you. one of them the pastor meeting happening yesterday and then the 9/11 comments that he's not backing away from but rudy giuliani, a guy who was america's mayor today saying trump is exaggerating. >> he said there might have been celebrations but basically said there were not thousands of people cheering in new jersey. that they would have known that, covered it, would have seen it. donald trump, though, not backing away from his comments.
doubling down, tripling down, quadrupling down, you know, fiving down, i don't know. >> never surrender. >> never surrendering from what he has been saying, claiming that he knows it's true because he saw it, world's greatest memory and hundreds of people tweeting him saying they saw it, too. expecting donald trump to move away, apologize, say he could have been wrong, misremembered, don't hold your breath. >> there's the pastor endorsement issue after the meeting yesterday with african-american leaders. certain pastors with an open mind, some felt who felt comfortable saying they believe in donald trump, others not so much. >> they wanted it a big announcement for a group of pastors endorsing him. did not turn out that way whatsoever. a handful of them came out and did a news conference with reporters and said that, yes, they do endorse donald trump and bl believe he's a good leader if elected president but most left
without speaking to reporters and a said of them said they're not comfortable supporting him just yet and one that did support him, mark burns, telling nbc news that he is getting absolutely crucified by his community for coming out and support of donald trump and just shows you how fractured some elements are in terms of support for him and despite the pastors saying that we think his rhetoric isn't necessarily -- doesn't necessarily matter and we believe he is for the community and create jobs and be a leader for us and a strong portion of the community saying that the rhetoric is divisive, racial baiting and dangerous down the line. >> interesting for the christian community to see where they fall on a donald trump candidacy and coming up, katy, we'll see omarosa in the video. you saw her yesterday. >> yes. >> a former "apprentice"
contestant and she was in the meeting yesterday as she is now an ordained minister. we'll talk about what happened inside that room for two and a half hours with donald trump and whether these leaders felt their questions were answered. >> remember, she is a big supporter of donald trump. >> that is true. but we'll find out if she'll vote for him coming up. thank you. i want to turn to new hampshire. for more on governor chris christie attracting attention in the granite state. hallie? >> reporter: hey there, thomas. you, donald trump may be in new hampshire tonight but far from the only candidate out there putting boots on the ground to try to interwakt voters the last couple of months. chris christie, in fact, today on the 50th day in new hampshire he says he's coming off what could be perceived as an upswing for him or at least momentum picking up, coming off key endorsements of activists here in new hampshire, a paper "the union leader, adequacy number of candidates going after and
picking up today an endorsement of the former speaker of the house here in the state, somebody courted by people like jeb bush, carly fiorina, marco rubio. the fact that chris christie is getting the inside could be significant potentially if, and here's the if, if voters are paying attention. and they may not necessarily be right now. not even here in new hampshire. you are seeing a lot of folks at the events that chris christie is holding. a couple hundred last night and south of new hampshire and said they were undecided, looking at christie in the top three or four picks, some of them also liked donald trump or ben carson and jeb bush. christie has his work cut out for him to move in the polls, not just his position from seventh up to, obviously, first, to hope to win, but to be convincing voters to be the top pick. he is doing so taking shots at some of the other candidates in the race. you heard him talk this morning on "morning joe" about people
like ted cruz, marco rubio, people he said don't have the experience to successfully sit as commander in chief and in the white house, people like president obama, these first-term senators coming in and trying to prove that they have the chops to be president. christie says he's the one with the proven experience. thomas? >> nbc's hallie jackson there with the christie campaign, thank you. now dr. ben carson who just returned from a trip to jordan where he met with syrian refugees and spoke with "today" show's matt lauer this morning about the trip. would he allow some of the refugees he met to come here. here's carson's reply. >> honestly, i don't think that's the issue. you know? the issue is if we bring in tens of thousands of refugees into this country, have we solved the problem? the answer to that is, no. why do things that just make some people feel good and say that we've done something when in fact there are adequate solutions? >> dr. carson -- comes after
numerous interviews and speeches that demonstrated in some characterizations a poor handling of foreign policy. meanwhile, in iowa, jeb bush wrapped up a town hall meeting in waterloo working to revive the struggling campaign status and today focusing on hillary clinton instead of his republican rivals. casey hunt is in iowa. how has jeb bush's message changed with just two months to go for iowa caucus voters? >> reporter: thomas, good afternoon. bush's focused very squarely on national security issues and the basic message that he is the person who's best positioned to be commander in chief. this town hall he's held at a museum of military history with a plane hanging overhead, a new ad out with medal of honor winners saying this isn't a reality show that we're running for here. we're running for president of the united states. the campaign putting real money behind the ad, $600,000 in new
hampshire, not necessarily here in iowa. thomas, i have to tell you, i spent yesterday on the trail with ted cruz in iowa. today i'm with jeb bush. and the contrast between the two and between the insurgent set of candidates and the establishment set is just so striking. the audiences here with bush much smaller, the questions much more focused on the issues bush wants to talk about, about isis, about china, cruz's events, on the other hand, packed to the gills. cruz very engaged with a large crowd. people, you know, surrounding him afterward and cruz himself handling the questions with quite a bit of humor. >> pretty amazing looking at the expected candidates opposed to the non-traditional candidates and what is working. nbc's kasie hunt in iowa, thanks. you set me up nicely for the bing question today because it is about the insurgents versus the establishment candidate. what do you think, who's ultimately going to be the gop
front-runn front-runner? all right. so could bit the insurgents? 43% say, yes. 57% say, no. check it out. so the other big story that we're following for you this hour, breaking news this chicago after a fall from grace for the city's top cop. firing the police superintendent gary mccarthy announcing it earlier today. that city up in arms and protest after a deadly police shooting scandal happened under his watch. >> has become an issue rather than dealing with the issue. and a distraction. i have a lot of loyalty to what he's done and him but i have a bigger loyalty to the city of chicago, the future and strength of that future and no one person trumps my commitment and responsibility to the city of chicago and its future. >> today the cop charged with first-degree murder in the shooting death of laquan mcdonald is out on $150,000
bond. john yang is in chicago and chris hays with me here in studio and following the story since it broke last year and did reports on the chicago police department and allegations of misconduct and corruption there. john yang on the story, too, from the very beginning. let's talk about the breaking news with the emanuel press conference that the superintendent was going to be out, seemed like pulling the rug out from underneath this guy who as you reported earlier giving media availability up until about 8:00 a.m. >> that's right. he was doing his monthly round of the local television stations talking to the morning shoes. as recently as friday he told -- he had a press conference announcining a race in another notorious murder case in chicago and said the mayor had his back. not a quitter. 56 years old, he had never quit anything in his life and didn't intend to start now. but as you heard the mayor say,
he has become -- he became the issue, the superintendent became the issue. he became a distraction and he clearly decided it was time for him to go. his last interview this morning was about 7:40. wmaq reports that 20 minutes later he was summoned to city hall and presumably when he got the word because sources told wmaq when he left he was very unhappy. so this is now the big change trying to do what he can to try to move forward on this. the other name being called for in terms of resignations is anita alvarez of the state's attorney, the prosecutor here. of course, the mayor -- she is an elected official. the mayor can't do anything about her but she is up for re-election next spring. the voters could be the ones to say you're fired. thomas? >> john, from a judicial
standpoint, when's the next step in the case moving forward with the officer who's now out on bond? >> he's out on bond. the bond was set -- bail set at $1.5 million. his father posted the $150,000 cash bond. his next court appearance is december 18th. and until then, he is free but, of course, he is expressed concerns about his safety during this time that he is free on bail. thomas? >> nbc's john yang reporting in chicago, i turn to my colleague now, nbc's chris hayes here in studio. ram emanuel talked about accountability of the issue and a cultural change that's needed. from being there, what did you witness? >> one of the things that kept coming up in the press conference today was emanuel pointing to the process, saying they didn't want to taint that process. it's ran by the independent police review accountability
board, investigate the allegations of misconduct. the numbers that have been compiled by a law clinic and the university of chicago show less than 3% of those complaints are found to be with merit. you have an example of one cop with 68 complaints, no findings of merit until robbing essentially the drug dealers he was arresting. there are lots of reasons to suppose that the accountability system that's in place, the process the mayor was talking today isn't necessarily doing the job that it is set up to do and that's i think part of what you saw in the press conference. people asking about this officer, 18 complaints, fined against him for injuring the n shoulders s os of a man he handcuffed. >> i know you did a report on this. took us into the streets about the divide between the community and the cops. let's take a look at that.
>> chicago didn't become one of america's most segregated cities by accident. it was designed that way. >> people in power decided chicago would be segregated. basically era of red lining with maps produced by the federal government. housing loans were, you know, given on the basis of these maps. >> reporter: the red lining, chicago neighborhoods in the 21st century, segregated. the effects of these policies were devastating to african-american communities and can be seen even today the relationship between those communities and the people charged with keeping them safe. >> the truth is in some of the neighborhoods you're talking about, the people in the community know who committed the crimes, who has the guns f. you want the safety you desire, live by a moral code, not code of silence. >> things started to turn around. >> good first and second quarter and everybody said in the third quarter to measure how we're
doing. in june, we were down. july the same thing. in august the same thing. >> and what chicago magazine found, according to their nearly 40 police sources, is that a department were some appear to be engaged in a widespread practice of misclassifying other crimes, too, and some cases according to the reporting making them go away altogether. >> so we did that report looking at allegations that essentially numbers were being fudged. commissioner mccarthy brought in, crime was very high in chicago. it has seen on the records i think about a 34% drop from when he started to now. but there are allegations a lot of police officers will say that essentially those stats are being massaged and see generally police officers themselves, it's people in communities, folks who have interaction with the police, a swirl of distrust around this department. it's what the mayor pointed to today and the question to answer is why does that distrust end at the man that he fired today in mccarthy and not go up to the
mayor's office itself? >> reap what you sow. also, there is a high crime rate of chicago violence. >> yep. >> citizen on citizen violence and we hold our law enforcement, our police to a different standard. and today, we saw mccarthy still talking about the fact that they believed that laquan mcdonald lunged toward the police officer. they still were trying to report that as fact in the narrative. >> that's a part of a huge problem. mccarthy saying today, the information of my department was not accurate in the wake of the shooting. there is a way for the mayor's office and the administration of the city of chicago and the chicago police to basically lay out their record that would back up what they're saying but as of now, all people have is their word and the light of the fact there is's a tremendous amount of skepticism in chicago around their word. >> see you tonight. thank you very much. chris will have more on this story tonight on "all in" at 8:00 p.m. here on msnbc. chris, thank you again. we told you among the
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we know her best from the donald trump board room but omarosa would rather have you know she worked in the clinton white house, as a d.c. fund-raiser and teaches marketing at howard university but did you know she is an ordained minister and appeared shoulder to shoulder with donald trump yesterday after his meeting with black pastors to gain their endorsements?
>> i met some fantastic people, some of whom i have known. i thought it was an absolutely amazing -- you know, it lasted two and a half hours. we came up with lots of good ideas and lots of future ideas but i thought it was an amazing meeting. >> joining me now, omarosa, great to have you with me. >> hi there. how are you? >> i'm good. we saw you in the video right-hand side of donald trump an we know his presidential language perceived by some as racist, mocking, anti-muslim, lacking facts. how's addressed in yesterday's meeting? did you personally bring any of that up? >> we were in a room full of about 125 religious leaders of all faith and every one of them had their own issues that they wanted to bring up and certainly i got my issues -- i come to represent my congregation and not far from skid row and we have homeless veterans, we have mental health issues.
we have housing issues. those are things important to the people that i represent and the issues that i brought up in the meeting with donald trump. >> so from a perspective of donald trump having a press avail and didn't think a change of tone was necessary after meeting with the folks in that meeting, do you think any progress was made from this meeting between donald trump and prominent black christian leaders? >> well i hate it was summarized as you know, no progress. there was tremendous progress. there was talk of policy issues, jobs, crimes, women's reproductive issues. we covered did gamut. almost two and a half hours long and took on each of the questions and concerns head on and didn't back down. he stood his position. he explained what happened with the black lives matter protesters. he talked about retweeting some statistics that may not have been correct. and i felt that there was some contrition there. in terms of tone, there needs to
be some modification in tone and many of the pastors that expressed that and he seemed open and willing to hear of how and why people were feeling the way they feel about donald trump and his candidacy. >> so there have been some prominent african-american religious leaders coming out of this or even looked at this, folks in attendance and said they were props or prostitutes to be there. this is their words, not mine. so how would you respond to any pastors who are using that language to describe those who would be in attendance? >> first of all, i'm a child of god. i would never use those terms to describe myself. christ said that i have come for the sinner, not saved. so when you have a disagreement, the bible says go to that person. take your brothers with you. that's what the word says and that's what you have to do. i would never be used because i knew i was there to get information, take it back to the
mission tear baptist church in los angeles where i serve and that was what was important to me. >> but so it was three months ago that you appeared on msnbc and had to say this about donald trump getting your vote. i want to show everybody. >> huh oh. here we go. >> would you vote for donald trump? >> come on, i'm a die hard democrat. i have hillary clinton tattooed on my left arm. >> you're baring arms. >> i am. do you see that? >> you got guns. >> i do. >> trump is selling the sizzle, not steak. your words. >> no, no, no. >> did donald trump do anything yesterday to earn your vote? is he hired in your mind? >> let's go back to those three months when he first announced and the candidacy so new and raw. for the record, i am a dem. i worked in the clinton white house. i grew up in a democratic state of ohio and divide presidents. that's the battleground and a context i was speaking in.
certainly, at the time that he announced, no one knew that this candidacy would last this long or be as strong and so, yes, i said there was sizzle and now you see more substance from him and i want each of the candidates, whether hillary clinton, carson, to sit down with religious leaders and address the issues and concern that is they have and i would like to see hillary clinton specifically sit down with religious leaders, tell me where she stands and i can take that information back to my congregation. >> so you have altered your position on who you are voting for? you are undecided? >> we are like 348 days from the election. >> but in august you were pretty decided with a tattoo on your left arm. >> let's be clear. hillary -- i have a long relationship with the clintons. i said that out of full disclosure and no way waivering. my relationship with donald trump goes back to 2003 when we shot the most successful reality show of ever, "the apprentice."
i'm in a unique position and can't just think of omarosa. i have to think about the people i serve. this isn't about me. this is about doing what god called me to do and that's making sure that i do not do a disservice to my congregation not getting the facts, not getting the information and bringing it back to people very concerned about when's happening in the black community. >> so would you encourage your congregation to vote for donald trump? >> you know we are not allowed to do that from the pulpit. you're asking me question that is are down right illegal. >> that's why he invited you. >> you know churches can't -- you're asking me a ridiculous question. you know religious leaders can't endorse. >> getting the endorsement to go back to the pulpit and -- >> no. >> and tell them who to vote for. >> let's be very careful. at our church, we do not endorse nor can we. you will lose your tax status and integrity. this is so way out of line as a religious leader but i'm
interested in with all the candidates have to say and things happening in the african-american community that has to be addressed and we'll hold them to be accountable. >> to be fair, donald trump put out a campaign announcement to be surrounded by black leaders and would be announcing he received their endorsements. >> my personal invitation from the campaign never said omarosa, come and endorse me. >> no. religious leaders -- you sat next to him shoulder to shoulder -- >> talk about the issues. >> i know. i'm just saying it's fair question -- >> you said a press con r elise went to you saying he would get endorsements. my invitation said for clergy to come down, learn where he stood on issues and that's what we did. >> that's great. you but i think it's a fair question for an endorsement since you did endorse hillary clinton back in august. >> the church is not endorsing
any candidate. >> that's all right. >> at this point. >> reality tv. and minister can held together and you do it well. >> god bless you. good luck to you. >> thank you, thank you. still ahead, the high stakes for this week's u.n. climate change summit. bill nye will join me to talk about the reality of global warming.
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hillary clinton speaking from the same church podium where then pastor martin luther king jr. organized the boycotts. we'll monitor the remarks, bring you news as soon as we get it from that. also capitol hill, the fight of isis, defense secretary ash carter said the u.s. will send special operation forces to iraq. >> special operators bring a unique suite of capabilities that make them force multipliers. they'll help us garner in ground intelligence, further enhance the air campaign and enable local forces to regain and then hold territory occupied by isil. >> meanwhile, senator john mccain reacted to this latest development in an interview with my colleague andrea mitchell in the 12:00 hour. >> by an increase in our capabilities and presence there, but it's a reaction, andrea, rather than an action. it is a reaction to paris.
there is no strategy. >> so i want to go to nbc's chief pentagon correspondent jim miklaszewski. what's the significance of today's announcement and the policy of the white house against isis? >> reporter: well, what secretary carter didn't say is that the special operations forces headquartered in iraq could be drawn into combat operations. in fact, that is one of their missions when they get there, to conduct combat operations, to kill or capture isis leaders when that's possible. and we are getting a few more details about exactly what that will entail. we are told that it will be about 100 to 150 special operations forces who would be headquartered in iraq, the exact location is not yet known. and not only will they conduct operations in iraq, but they would also conduct operations, raids to take down or take out some of those isis leaders, also in syria.
and this is in addition to the 50 special operations forces that president obama already announced who will be semipermanently located in northeast syria to aid the kurds and the free syrian forces in their fight against isis there in syria. so as one u.s. senior defense official told us, this cracks open the door to possible u.s. combat operations on the ground. but for the time being, in relatively small numbers, thomas. >> mick, what else are you hearing about this claim that isis shot down a u.s. drone over mosul? >> reporter: well, it could be. nobody's identified that as ast drone but if you look at it, it's almost a mini drone that could be used for surveillance purposes only. there are some u.s. drones that are somewhat similar but if you compare them, not exactly so, so far, we have no confirmation
that any drone was shot down and if it was, it was most likely inconsequential. >> jim miklaszewski, new. >> you bet. a wide ranging news conference earlier today from paris where president obama discussed isis saying that the u.s. is on the winning side but he was also asked about the pace of the airstrikes against the militant group. >> the pace of airstrikes is not constrained by the amount of planes or missiles that we have. the pace has been dictated by how many effective targets do we have? and the intelligence is improving and the better we are at that, the better we'll be at going after them. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell in paris with the president. we know the symbolism of the remarks from that very place within paris who's still reeling after the attacks of friday the 13th in november, but how did the president say that the
policy against isis continues to align with france or even russia? >> reporter: well, it was interesting, thomas, because covering the president here, we do not know that the defense secretary being explicit about the u.s. forces having a role to play and matches up with ash carter in terms of gaining more intelligence and ability to have a better assessment on the ground of potential targets the u.s. might hit against isis. and yet, the president did not take the opportunity when addressing a number of questions related to the fight against isis to talk about the troop levels himself. he referenced adding resources. he talked about the conversations with other world leaders here and interestingly he set out to kind of make the distinction about when's happening with russia. of course, they're playing a role in sir why and not necessarily a constructive role from the u.s. point of view and the president said don't expect vladimir putin to do a 180 and
change course. meaning, focused most on isis targets when we know that the russians have been really going after some of the moderate opposition forces in syria who would like to see assad stay in power. that is not the u.s. objective. thomas? >> kelly o'donnell from paris, thank you. next, what the president had to say about the fight against climate change. talking with bill nye after this break. fight it! with jublia. jublia is a prescription medicine used to treat toenail fungus. use jublia as instructed by your doctor. are you getting this?! most common side effects include ingrown toenail, application site redness, itching, swelling, burning or stinging, blisters, and pain. oh, epic moves, big j! fight it! getting ready for your close-up? ask your doctor if jublia is right for you. visit our website for savings on larger size.
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opinion about whether or not ram emanuel should stay the mayor? >> well, you know, to get to that point, i think that we have to really look at the fact that it's really not editorial boards that make that decision or push for resignation. we can say it but it's actually the people protesting in the street as they have done dauly since the video made public and calling for a resignation that really will determine whether or not people are serious about ram emanuel. before you get to him, you have to think about cook county state's attorney anita alvarez who had the responsibility of prosecuting this case and did nothing for 13 months. >> we had an african-american family say a man killed by police, demanding that the police now release the dash cam video of the incident. take a listen. >> my son had a life. he had five kids. ages ranging from now from 8 to
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