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they have access to assault rifles which is extraordinary. >> our coverage continues now. all right. good evening from new york. i'm chris heys. authorities have now identified one of the three suspects in the mass shooting in san bernardino. that killed 14 people and injured 17 more. deadliest mass shooting since newtown, connecticut, three years ago. it took place at the inland renalal center. social services facility for people with disabilities. official told nbc news that gunfire erupted in a conference room where the san bernardino county department of public health was holding a banquet. early reports indicate as many as three shooters and late night, police engage with two suspects in an suv not that far from where the initial shooting happened.
those suspects, man and woman are dead. a third person was detained nearby, no information yet as to whether that person is linked to the attack. nbc news is reporting that one of the suspects in today's shooting was syed farook, born june 1987, another possible suspect is believed to be syed farook's brother. fbi raid began earlier this evening, as far as we know is still under way at a residence in the city of red lantds in san bernardino county. public records show that a man called syed farook is the current resident of that home. also, a man called syed farook is listed for working for the department of public health, divisional of environmental health services. it is not confirmed whether it is the same syed farook who is considered a suspect in today's mass shooting. during a press conference this evening, authorities did not rule out a workplace dispute nor ruled out terrorism. here's how san bernardino police chief described the suspects killed in a shootout with police
earlier this evening. >> the suspects that were, that are dead at the scene, one is a male, one is a female. they were dressed in kind of assault-style clothing. i think is probably the best way to term it. they are both armed with assault rifles. they are both armed with handguns. and there's, there's also kind of some sensitive stuff around the vehicle, they're just not real sure. they're taking a cautious approach in dealing with the vehicle in case there's more explosives there. >> in the hours, we have no further indication if there was explosives found there. pete williams is with us now, and pete, obviously a tremendously chaotic situation, very fluid situation. lots of facts flying around. what do we know at this hour? >> in fact, there was a pipe bomb or a pipe thrown out of that car as the police were chasing it, but it was just a hoax device. however, they say the whole shooting started with the gunmen
throwing an explosive device at the inland regional center. the device didn't go off, but it was later recovered at the scene, and authorities say it was a working, or properly designed explosive device, and they later detonated it. they still don't know the motive. they don't know everyone involved. they're still not precisely certain what role syed farook played in this, but he was involved in the shooting. there are lots of unanswered questions here. the main one being, of course, the motive, why did they do this? authorities haven't ruled out terrorism, that's only because they don't know what it was. now they're learning more about syed farook, and that isn't telling them what the motive was either. the they haven't found any indication that he -- why he targeted this particular place. they're trying to determine that now. who else was involved with him. that whole search at the house is a very precautionary step,
not because they're certain there was anything there that was explosive, but because they want to make certain there wasn't. and because explosives were involved in the earlier scenes, that's why they're being so cautious here. but there's still lots of unanswered questions, how many people were involved, it's interesting that a man and a woman were found killed in that suv. both of them we're told were dressed in tactical gear carrying the same kinds of weapons that were seen at the inland regional center, raising the possibility that it was not three men who came into the center, but possibly two men and a woman. all those things yet to be determined, chris. >> all right. pete williams, appreciate that, thank you. >> you bet. >> all right, joining me now, nbc's blake mccoy, with a do you have? >> well, chris, pete just referenced a pipe bomb that was potentially thrown into the inland renalal center before this attack. i can confirm for you within the last ten minutes, we did hear an explosion from two blocks away at a inland regional center. it was a controlled explosion to get rid of what they thought was
an explosive device. so that just happened within the last 10 or 15 minutes. looking ahead towards the next hour. we have told that the council on american islamic relations will be making a a statement. a relative of one of the suspects will join them. that press conference expected in the next hour. pete mentioned the weapons that were found at the scene, that suv where those two suspects were found dead we know that two assault rifles were taken as well as two pistols. according to to the atf, they have serial numbers on them. if there's any history with those weapons, they should be able to trace that history. >> thank you very much. council american islamic
relations called a press conference for 11:30. there'll be a family member at that press conference. of course, c.a.r.e. an active civil rights dealing with muslim americans. we also might be getting a press conference in our hour with the latest from police giving us an update, we will obviously bring you those if we can get them. joining us now from the medical center where many of the victims with are being treated. morgan radford. what have we been hearing from hospital officials? >> reporter: hospital officials are saying that five of the wounded today are being treated right here at loma linda medical center, but of those five, two are in critical condition, chris. two are in fair condition and one person's condition is still being determined. that said, family members are still flowing into this hospital, trying to find out anything they can about their loved ones. they're especially worried because just at 2:30 p.m. this afternoon, right when i was standing here, a bomb threat was called into this hospital.
but, just an hour later, it was lifted after a k-9 unit came in and were able to determine that this threat was not in fact credible. earlier today i spoke with a guard that was guarding the entrance to the family entrance of this hospital. and she spoke to three or four family members. and one of whom who was a young man just waiting to hear any word on his uncle's whereabouts. still a chaotic scene here as chomers are leaving the hospital, and balances are coming in, but hospital authorities say they are going to continue business as usual tomorrow. chris. >> all right, morgan, thank you very much. >> one of the things that has been perplexing folks all day as the details have come in is trying to make sense of this senseless act, or this horrific act, and a bunch of the facts, even as they've assembled now cut against the narratives that we are used to or expecting. the target itself did not immediately seem to people to be a likely target for organized say jihadi group or possibly some other ideological organization, it just seems so
obscure, the social service agency and the inland empire and san bernardino, california, in a conference room being rented by the department of health for its annual holiday banquet, why would someone target that? so there were folks i think who began early on thinking that couldn't be the cause. however, there were earlier reports of multiple gunmen, that seemed to be something that cut against the idea of some sort of lone shooter or workplace violence. we now are getting more information, but none of it has resolved the theory of what exactly has happened. and nbc news pete williams is back with us now with some news. >> just a little more here about the sort of changing nature of this and how the understanding of this has evolved over the hours. we've been talking to some law enforcement if i believes who are now beginning to wonder, and are operating on the assumption that, two people were involved in the shooting, not three.
the assumption all along and what we had heard from witnesses was that after this argument, three people came back in through explosive devices and started shooting. the more and more that the police get into this, the more witnesses they interview, the more information they develop, they now believe there is a possibility that it was only two. and i'm saying this carefully, they're not definitively saying it was just two, they're not believing that maybe it was just two. another thing flows from that, that is go back to the scene of the suv, remember that we heard that two people were involved in that shooting, a man and a woman, both were killed. both were wearing tactical gear. both had the same kinds of what are called assault-style weapons that were seen at the inland regional center in the morning, and a third person was seen running away from the scene. authorities have been pretty transparent all day about saying
they didn't know whether that person was involved in the shooting or just running away. there was a lot of gunfire exchanged with that suv and police that explains why somebody would run away. now they're saying they don't believe that that person that was detained was involved in the shooting, and that is suggestive that it was just two, and that there's not another person at large. we've been trying to square that arithmetic all day, and its been, you know, curious problem to resolve, now it's appears that the point that that's the, that's what they're coming around to thinking now. is just two people, not a third. and the other possibility is that one of the two people in the car was the fiance of the other. but again, that's not, not confirmed. that's the kind of operating theory, but it takes us in a slightly different direction here. a little less involved, and finally, we're told that they
haven't fully cleared that inland renalgional center yet. they were looking for victims and did a more detailed search and found an explosive device when which they then said they were going to detonate. we're told they haven't fully gone through and satisfied themselves ls that they have cleared it of other explosive devices. that's still a work in progress. >> pete, let me ask you this, i don't want to get out ahead of the facts, i just to want know what we know so far. we have more multiphysical sources of law enforcement officials i'd'd this name, syed farook. there appear to be dots next to each other page that we can't yet connect, redland's direct for syed farook and a man named syed farook that worked for the hpt. do we have confirmation the identity of the people in the suv who officials tell us were killed? >> that's a very good question. it's one we've been asking all
night, and the answer is no. they may have a working idden to now, but i don't think either had an id. we've heard reports that the man was syed farook. i can't confirm that. i don't know that to be the case. >> right. all right. pete, thank you very much, coming back in with all of that extremely useful information. joining me now, msnbc's jacob sobroff where it happened earlier tonight. jacob when we spoke a few hours ago, we were speaking under the assumption, and i think the feeling that was in that area, that police were engaged in an active man hunt, possibly for the quote, third suspect. given some the developments in the last few hours, have things changed on the ground there in terms of the level of activity you're say seeing? >> reporter: just until a few moments ago, there was a police presence here, in fact, a bomb squad, robot, went up to package that was left unintended that the intersection that we are at. residents were asked to stay
back. there was a perimeter set up and five or ten minutes ago, it was taken down and moved up the block, just that way. obviously out of an abundance of caution, everything is looked at here very closely. but like you said, perhaps that's because we are a quarter mile up that street, and around the corner from where the shootout with the two suspects occurred earlier this evening. i don't know if it's related to the reporting that pete's doing about perhaps it was only two suspects, but we are seeing, as i said, chris, police presence sort of roll back here this evening. >> jacob, there were, there were what appeared to be bomb squad units going through searching things. one of the through lines today has been a lot of caution from officials about the possibility of explosives, taking extra precautions, whether it's sweeping the facility itself, whether it's the battering ram on top of the tactical vehicle where you saw serving the warrant on the house in redlands, that robot that was
commissioned earlier to take care of something. clearly that's been a front of concern for law enforcement all day and evening. >> reporter: we saw it here in this intersection with the robot that went to check out first with the camera and then with it appears to be bomb squad officers backpack left unattended earlier in the neighborhood. maybe about half mile from here and as well at suspect's home in redlands. it's something that law enforcement in this area is concerned about. >> all right, jacob, thank you very much. jim cav gnaw is a law enforcement analyst, retired special agent in charge of the atf, and jim, from the start of this, we've been getting a succession of facts about this,
all we know is that it was horrific, there were multiple people, it's the worst mass shooting since newtown, but the other facts we have, they don't, they don't co. here, and they don't appear at this point to point an arrow in a blindingly obvious direction. >> well, that's right, chris. i mean, i think that one thing we have to look at though in your discussion earlier is this party, this christmas party, by this particular group of people was a targeted event. i mane, you don't show up at the christmas party with already prepared pipe bomb, masks, rifles, handguns, dressed in black, maybe some kind of a load bearing vest or bullet-proof vest. this particular gathering of people, at this particular time was targeted. and i also would add that the report which i think the l.a. times put out first that the man was in the party and left and
this may be the identified suspect that pete williams identified, you know, he could have just, it's a planned attack, and he could have went in there to see, are the people we're here to kill present? i want to see if they are. now there could have been some words with the people he planned to kill, but that very well could not have been a spontaneous dispute that was otherwise not going to happen. that could have been already a planned attack. i mean, when you have pipe bombs, you know, there's a lot of activity here, pre-planned. then you go in, are these people who may have humiliated you, fired you, done something bad to you, whatever, are they the here? okay, then you go back and of course there's a female involved. which are both deceased and like pete said, may very well have been two shooters, and you could if it's like i say, a wife, girlfriend, sister, you could get somebody to help you. also if that person is situated
in the same feelings of revenge. maybe that person was wronged or feels wronged as well. there is a light motif of revenge running through this. now exactly how that's going to play out, i think the on-scene commanders, everybody at the joint operation center, fbi, sheriffs, chiefs, everybody's trying to see how that fits together. just like we are. and they don't have the answer to that maybe in total, they're going to have it before we do. but they've got to look at these two deceased actors, chris, and say, why would they do this? and how much planning was in this, and why are they targeting these, this specific christmas party at this specific place? and it may be that that was the only place they could access people they wanted to seek revenge on. so, it's not a certainty, it's just -- it doesn't give us the exact motive, but we have to look at the behavior and the facts we know. >> jim, thank you very much. we will have much more coverage of the events still unfolding in san bernardino, don't go anywhere. i've been called a control freak...
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sentiments, hillary clinton tweeted quote, i refuse to accept this. as normal. we must take action now. martin o'malley tweeted, enough is enough, it's time to stand up to the nra and enact meaningful gun safety laws. senator bernie sanders stressed a need to do something about the prevalence of mass shootings. they are welcome becoming every day or car insurances in the country. it's a sickening and senseless gun violence must stop. i asked him, how do you stop it? >> chris, if i knew the simple answer to that, i would tell you. i don't think anybody has a magical answer. but i do believe, i do believe, chris, that there are a number of areas expanding and improving instant background check, doing away with the gun show loophole, i would hope banning assault weapons, doing with the strong man provision, those are areas, in fact, despite the nra that the vast majority of the american people would like us to move. whether my republican colleagues
here have the courage to do that remains to be seen. >> republican candidates also react to the shooting, dr. ben carson wrote my thoughts and prayers are with the shooting victims and their families in san bernardino. senator ted cruz, prayers with the victims. jeb bush, praying for the victims, families in the san bernardino first responders. governor clrz, praying for all those victimized by those shootings in san bernardino, california today. new york daily news reported the emphasis on prayer. here's an early look at their front page, 14 dead in california mass shooting, god isn't fixing this. think progress contributing editor also throughout the day noted republicans were tweeting their thoughts and prayers and why their party wouldn't help prevent another mass shooting. he tweeted out a laundry list of gop connections to the nra like this aimed at senator mitch mcconnell, dumped 922,000 into the reelection bid, when it comes to preventing gun violence, you get this tweet. he is joining me now, now, i've
seen a tremendous amount of attention paid to these tweets today. how did this start? >> well, it just started in the sense that it's so predictable. the responses are so predictable. i mean, they've been thinking and praying about this since newtown where almost as you point out at the anniversary, december 14th, we had such an opportunity then as a country to pass some actual gun reforms, we didn't, here we are almost a year after, having the same conversation and these lawmakers are having the same, same exact reaction they had then and to all of the shootings, we've seen since then. >> aye seen people, what's wrong with thoughts and prayers? we don't know what happened. and this is obviously all we know is that something horrific happened. particularly early on when folks are tweeting this. why is that a sentiment expressed worthy of criticism in your mind? >> well, because it's okay, think and pray, but these folks only want to think and pray and the nra pays them to only think and pray about gun violence and
not to do anything else about it. they spend $20 million making sure that all certain lawmakers do is think and pray nothing else. i'm all for thinking and for praying and for having these very serious moments when we reflect on what happened. we remember the victims, but i think the country is really ready for action, for actually something to be done, not just the thinking and the praying. >> do you think it's the money? you know, i noticed today. >> reporter: that's part of it. >> as i was looking at your twitter feed, it was a sort of juxtaposition, and we can see it there, 1,000 for the nra, as you're tweeting out these thoughts and prayers, tweets from various politicians, but there's, there's another reason i suppose. >> the nra is powerful not just because of money, but because there's a significant portion of americans committed to their
world view. not a majority necessarily, but a committed one. >> well, that's true, but even if you look at the majority of americans, the majority of republicans and nra members, they support expanding background checks, making sure ammunition clips are a certain size, assault weapons are off the streets. i mean these are kind of common place, mainstream positions, and so, certainly the money has to play a factor because the american public, their constituents, you look at the poll numbers, they're on board. >> are you struck today as you think about thoughts and prayers as i am as we watch the development of the story and we watch the political position in the midst of a campaign essentially digest this horrible tragedy, the ways in which you can see pieces fall into place depending on what set of facts. in the beginning, it's guns, so we see republican politicians react in another way. democrats react in another, as we go on, we may learn there is a motive, we may learn the
organization passed these people, was attached to this act of violence, and we'll also see the response play out in that way? >> well, chris, it would be ridiculous, if it was clear this was a terror attack, like god forbid the one we isn't that true paris, it would be ridiculous to think that certain lawmakers would go on twitter and say thoughts and prayers, thoughts and prayers, there's an understanding that those kinds of issues with, you can't solve with thoughts and prayers, you need actual action. it's shocking when it comes to gun violence, time and time again, all we hear from these people is thoughts and prayers. and people keep on dying and dying and dying, and all they can say is, thoughts and prayers, let's not talk about this now. let's wait. respectful amount of time, and then in certain amount of weeks or months we can address it. but we can't because there is a mass shooting almost every single week in this country at this point. >> all right. thank you very much for joining us. >> thank you, chris. we'll be back with more coverage, san bernardino just after the break. oh i got a job too, at zazzies.
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joining me now from loma linda medical center where some of the victims are being treated, investigative reporter, and jason, my understanding is you got a chance to talk to some people who saw the shootout with that suv. >> reporter: yes indeed, chris. and you know, what i was struck by is the fact that many of the people that live in the community, who came out this evening, and earlier in the day to sort of discuss what they saw, they were somewhat desensitized to what took place. many of these people, they're residents, they live just a few blocks away from the, from the regional center. they said, gun violence and shootings are a regular occurrence here. in san bernardino. it happens every day. there was a woman who came out who she wanted to make sure that we in the media did not forget the fact that her son was killed in a shooting, gang-related
shooting several years ago. and there was a sense that people felt a bit angry that, you know, there's this massive law enforcement presence, and suddenly san bernardino is on the map. and they were more or less discussing how, you know, gun violence shootings are just a regular occurrence. every day, part of life here. in this community. and it was, it was fascinating in a somewhat tragic way. because many of them were, were victims, you know, themselves. they certainly said that they've never seen anything on this level but it's something they felt used to. >> it's true that mass shootings like this, the data suggests are becoming more common unfortunately, but comprise a very small slice of gun violence in america, of course. three homicides today in baltimore, if i'm not mistaken. shooting of four people in savannah, georgia, today, three
shot, one killed. that is the background context against which something like this happens. we should also note, jason, that i was reading an act of how -- account of how they conduct monthly active shooter drills. some of the folks inside that center when they saw the law enforcement coming into deal with the active shooter situation, assumed, the way one does sometimes during a fire drill that it maub drill and not the real -- must be a drill and not the real thing. >> reporter: in fact that's interesting. there's a woman we spoke with who is a teacher just at an elementary school, just about a mile away. and when the news came in that they started hearing that there was a shooting, everyone assumed, at least this is what she said that everyone assumed that it was a drill. i asked her, do you mean fire drill? she said no, this is an active or a shooter sort of scenario. and that's what people originally assumed until they started receiving phone calls from friends and loved ones.
telling them that, you know, that this was actually taking place in realtime. >> all right, jason leopold, thank you very much. >> thank you, chris. all right. the latest at moment, we have 14 fatalities, the worst since newtown, sandy hook, almost exactly three years ago. 17 injured, there's one police officer who appears to be injured. those injuries non-life threatening. we are monitoring that. there are folks staking out those hospitals, everyone right now thinking and hoping that everyone makes it out of those hospitals in tact, safe and sound. we'll have much more after the break. ♪
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telling nbc news that one of the attackers is syed farook. now someone by that snam listed in public records as an employee of the department of public health until san bernardino county. the same organization that was reportedly holding a banquet this morning in the conference center where the shooting took place. in the inland regional center. tonight law enforcement have deploying specialized equipment to search a home in nearby redlands, california, where someone named syed farook is listed as a resident. that the hour, there is still so much we don't know about farook or other individuals who opened fire this morning at the inland regional center around 11:00 a.m. pacific time killing 14 people and injuring 17. worst mass shooting since the sandy hook massacre three years ago. according to police, the gunman came equipped to wreak havoc, quote, as if they were on a mission. >> preliminary information indicates that these are people that came prepared. that they were dressed in and
equipped in a way that they were prepared and they were armed with long guns, not handguns. >> after fleeing in what was described as dark-colored suv. they left a scene of utter chaos in their wake. first responders forced to tree i can't imagine the wounded out on the sidewalk. witnesses evacuated with their hands up, searched, and then sheltered on a neighboring golf course. family and friends of people were inside the building which houses 600 employees. descending on the scene to try and find out what had happened to their loved ones and a massive law enforcement response by just about every local agency, plus the fbi and the atf. and then, hours after the shooting first began, police, they say following a tip zeroed in on what appeared to be the getaway car on a suburban street outside an elementary school. the suspects engaged. >> they are shooting out of, they are shooting at us, from the suv eastbound on richardson. watch your cross fire. >> copy, they are shooting at you from the suv east on richardson. >> one's in the trunk, one's in
the trunk shooting at us. >> at a press conference not long ago, law enforcement haven't determined a motive for the attack today. they're not ready to rule out terrorism. >> i know one of the big questions that will come up repeatedly is is this terrorism? i am not willing to they we know that for sure. we are definitely making some movements that it is a possibility, we are making some adjustments to our investigation. it is a possibility, but we don't know that yet. and we're not willing to go down that road, yet. >> i'm joined now by "today" producer curtis voguele who was on the scene of the shoot you between the police and the shootout. curtis, they had a way of linking to an address in redlands, and it was as they moved toward that address that they encountered the suv and what ensued then? >> reporter: yeah, chris, good evening. we were at the community center where all the families were waiting to reunite with loved ones where we met a lot of different families and we have
not been able to get in touch with family members. of course distraught, worried, and a big police presence at the community center which is unusual. i've been to too many of the mass shootings, usually the community center, you'll see the red cross, salvation army, you'll see grief counselors, but not a huge police presence. there was a lot of police presence there. and you just got the sense that there was this thing wasn't over yet, ian though it was four hours after the initial shooting had happened. sure enough, tle deputies cars sped by, racing by with sirens blasting and officers there at the community center yelled at all the families and media to shelter in place and get inside the community center. you could tell something was going on. i jumped in my car and followed the deputies to the scene, and got there just as the suv had been stopped. we were too far away to see any of the actual shootout, but we knew it was happening. and it's at that point that they've started barricading the entire area off. and we hear the shots and you could see the police presence. i counted at least 50 cars in my
line of vision. and the neighborhood was on lockdownen from there on out. to some extent, it is that the hour. >> about how long did that, did that standoff go for? >> reporter: oh, i mean the exchange of gunfire was quick. it couldn't have been, it couldn't have been more than a couple minutes, and it probably wasn't as long as that, but it felt like it. we talked to witnesses in the neighborhood who weren't able to get out of their houses, but they talked about one man was on his lawn, watering his lawn and heard a 100 shots going off. and he hit the ground, crawled into his house, locked his doors. when he thought it was safe to get up, it was a dozen police officers around his house looking inside his house, asking if they could come in and search his house. and they went through his house. we talked to another resident a block away who heard the shots, skam outside, heard more shots, went inside, and then looking through the blinds, they could see that third person that the authorities ended up detaining tackled in the street and brought away through their
blinds. so they witnessed all of that going down. and it was, it was curious, the location of that final shootout. you've shown the map of all the different locations of what's happened today. and the fact that they didn't use those four hours to get further away from the scene to begin with was odd. and i think jim touched on this earlier in your earlier show today, that then once the chase ensued, they went back towards the shooting knowing that there's a huge law enforcement presence in that area. so it's kind of going from the front and into the fire. i don't know thousand explain that. once we got to the final location, i was surprised at where it all ended up because that was kind of the last place i would have imagined they would have gone to if they were being chased. >> curtis voguele, thank you, that was a great report. i appreciate that. all right. today's mass shooting brings us to a staggering statistic, more mass shootings this year than there have been days. more on than ahead.
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two gunmen came in and opened fire on everybody. just started shooting everybody and just taking lives of innocent people in that building and nobody knows why. >> they didn't say anything to you? >> they didn't say anything. >> they didn't say anything. nobody knows why. that's the haunting thoughtings today as we sift through the horrifying wreckage of the worst mass shooting in this country in three years since newtown, sandy hook. we've learned a little bit more about one of the people, the police say was involved. and we're learning more at every minute. we are also anticipating a press conference in our hour here from the council on american islamic relations with the brother-in-law, that's what they say they have, syed farook is the man identified by authorities, police officials as one of the people involved in this shooting. so we are going to be looking for that. looking for that police press conference, all that still to come. don't go anywhere. i know.
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all right. we are back with our kovrng of the mass shooting at a social services office in san bernardino, california. that left 14 people dead and 17 wounded. police say two suspects in the attacks, man and woman in an suv were killed in an exchange of gunfire at confrontation with police. a third suspect was detained or a third person we should say was detained. though his or her connection to the shooting is unclear. one of the suspects has been identified as syed farook. and a motive is not yet known. one of the suspects, it's still unclear whether one of the two individuals, man and woman is in fact syed farook. we have not hard confirmed that. what we have confirmed that syed farook is an individual involved in the attack, and we do know that a man and woman were found dead in that suv. now, the attack in san bernardino will have marked the worst mass shooting in america since the sandy hook elementary
shooting three years ago. it has made such gun violence feel distressingly common place. there have been 355 mass shootings this year, four or more killed by gunfire. that's more mass shootings than days so far this year. many politicians have been offering thoughts and prayers for the victims in the wake of this latest shooting. one democratic senator, chris murphy tweeted that your thoughts should be about steps to take to stop the carnage, prayers should be for forgiveness that you do nothing again. when we come back, the legacy of doing nothing. how we might finally turn the tide, that's next.
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the executive director of c.a.r.e., the council on american islamic relations. for the greater los angeles area. on behalf of the american muslim community and especially the southern california muslim community, on behalf of c.a.r.e., the council of american islamic relations, we unequivocally condemn the horrific act that happened today. and we stand in solidarity with fellow americans as we offer our condolences, our heartfelt prayers and condolences to the injured, to the families of those who have been killed, we stand in solidarity with any possible ideology or mindset that could have led to such horrific acts. there is absolutely nothing that could justify, and we stand in mourning, in sadness for what happened, and we pray for the
quick recovery of those who are injured. thank you very much. >> thank you, next i would like to invite the religious director of the islamic society of orange county. >> good evening. i'm the religious director of the council of southern california. represents most of the mosques of southern california from santa barbara to san diego. on behalf of our communities, i want to express our sadness and sorrow on this tragedy that happened in san bernardino. our hearts goes to the victims and their families, and the people who are injured. we fry god to bless them and to give comfort to the people who are in difficulty at this time. we are with them. we are in solidarity with them, and also i want to condemn this
action. this action of violence. it is a horrible violence. we have condemned all violence everywhere because human life is precious, and we respect and honor the human life. we would like to see that our law enforcement will take full investigation and find out the motives and the people behind that and they should be brought to justice. that is what we will expect, and we hope it will happen and at the same time i would ask everyone to please do not implicate islam or muslims, because whoever has done that, our faith is nothing to do with that. our faith is against this kind of behavior. thank you. >> thank you, doctor, next i would like to bring up the -- oh, can you spell your name, please? yes.
muzammil. siddiqi. >> thank you. um, next we would like to bring up the brother-in-law of the suspect to give a few remarks. >> my name is farhan. my last name is kahn. and i just cannot express how sad i am for, you know, what happened today. i mean, my condolences to the people who lost their life. i am very sad that the people lost their life and victims out there -- i wish speedy recovery to them and again, i am in shock that something like this could happen. that's all i have. i hope everybody understand and
everybody get recover much faster. all of the victims out there. thanks. >> when was the last time you spoke to syed? >> i mean -- i spoke to about like a week ago. with him. yeah. you know, there's no comment. i mean, investigation is going on, you would know what it is. i have no idea. i have no idea why would he do that. why would he do something like this? i have absolutely no idea. i am in shock myself. i had a chance to speak with mr. kahn before, and he truly doesn't feel he's informed enough, or anyone is informed enough to comment. because we don't know the motives. it's work, rage related, mental illness, is it extreme ideology, at this point had, it's really unknown to us and it's too soon
for us to speculate, and he feels comfortable sticking to his -- he chose to be here to share his family's feelings. sadness and sorrow. as all americans are tonight and today. so let's keep it that way for the time being until more information is available, and he promise to be as available as necessary as more information is available. so thank you for respecting his choice at this point. i ask, and truly he feels at thoint, he'd rather stoic that comment. just for the interest of the investigation. to be fair, we really want to get to the bottom of it. we don't want to undermine efforts of law enforcement at this point. by making any comment that could mislead the investigators or law enforcement that will be a great disservice done to the victims and their families. let's respect that for the time being and we appreciate that from your end.
[ inaudible question ] >> he hasn't been informed. he doesn't know who has been shot. >> the reason i'm here is, you know, to talk to the victims and to express my family, how sad they are for what happened. that's why i'm here. i mean, don't ask me what he is, what he was doing, how he is, i mean, i don't want to get into all of that. >> did the rest of the family ask you to come? >> sorry? >> did the rest of the family ask you to come? >> do they have children -- >> if it's okay, i will request if we can hold off on those
questions after the conference. i really appreciate it. next we will have reverend sa sara -- [ inaudible ] >> the suspect's sister is his wife. >> what is the name of your wife? >> he doesn't wish to reveal that at this time. if i can invite -- >> it is midnight on the east coast now, 9:00 p.m. in san bernardino, california, that was a press conference you were just watching. coming from southern california, and appears at that press conference was