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>> that's the part they can't quite deal wjanay nelson, i'm sorry you had to listen to that today. maybe it is a historic moment in that court today. >> let's hope so. >> thank you very much for joining us. donald trump versus america let's play "hardball." ♪ good evening, i'm chris matthews back in washington, something's just happened in this country. it's not about donald trump or the wild and wooly campaign, it's about this country in what we hold dear. freedom. freedom of spirit, freedom to believe about what you do, the meaning of life, the purpose of human experience, our most basic notion of what it's all about. we do it in our instrument, which protects us in the first amendment, in you are in our democracy, which refuses all religious tests for elective office. why? well, a lot of reasons, the
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enlightenment, but mostly i guess because so many people started the country, the puritans, quakers, hue ognats, where the rest with either illegal or harshly suppressed. can you imagine america, this country built on religious freedom banning people from this country because of their religion? that's the proposition now before the country. it's not so important who did it, this is bigger than that, yes, bigger than donald trump. this isn't about him. it's about us. will we entertain the idea of electing someone as auer president who is ready to sacrifice religious freedom to get elected. i learned this in religion case, no matter how well it goes over with the base, it's still a tearing down the america's basic foundation, religious tolerance.
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look, christmas is in the air, i felt it in new york yet. it's a quiet, wonderful celebration of what so many of us believe about our coming of our savior, about you hope and joy of life that faith can bring, that the free spirit can bring. it's a lot more important where donald trump can beat ted cruz. if he doesn't know it, thank god we do. let's talk about the politics of all this stuff. today donald trump continued to defend his call to ban muslim travelers during an appian on "live with kelly and michael." >> look we have a problem in this country. the world trade center came down, lots of other things, the terrible shooting in california last week, and franklily a lot of people knew that was going to happen we're going to have tremendous problems, it's getting worse and work and those problems are coming from a certain sector. we need safety. >> wouldn't it violate the constitution's freedom of
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religion? >> no, these are people that aren't in the country. we're not talking about the people in the country. they're outside of the country, so we're not talking about the constitution, and it's not about religion. this is about safety. this has nothing to do with religion. it's about safety. a lot of problems are happening in our country. >> well, keep trying there, donald, as associated press put it, the plan to ban muslims from entering the united states is shoving the republican party to the edge of chaos abruptly pitting gop leaders against their own presidential front-runner and jeopardizing the party's longtime drive to attract minorities. there's no end in sight for the chaos. trump insists he's going nor. in an interview with "the washington post," robert kosta and steven ginsberg, published today -- i will never leave the race. they right el he raises one arm over his head as if to clear any doubt and repeats -- i will never leave this race.
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robert kosta and joy reid, and gene robinson. three things i think scare the heck out of the republican party and causing this chaos. they're scared to death he'll run third party. you can't say i'm not backing the guy if 4th wins the nomination. two, he's going to be in next tuesday's debate. once again we'll see huge ratings. chris christie will have his sunday punch, everybody will be aiming at this guy. three, this is important. people may not like this, but there's a lot of trump people out there. white, working guys -- by the way, he does just as well among college people. robert, isn't that the fear of people like hi majesty reince priebus and people like that in the party? scared to death he'll walk? >> treading very carefully right now around trump. they're not talking about deserting him should he win the
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nomination. >> doesn't that put them in a problem, if they totally disagree, gene, with the principle of denies right-handous tolerance? how do they let him deny that principle? >> well, you can't say that that's what they must say, because really if -- i think the calculation has to be for the republican establishment that if at this point you say you're not going to support trump, thain you are definitely increasing the odds that he walks, that he takes a bunch of support with him and you lose big. >> what about if you're saying if you're unfair to me, i'll leave. >> exactly. >> he could argue by saying -- >> it's definitely unfair from his point of view if they say we're not going to support you if you're the nominee of our party. i think, you know, they're basically treading water and going to have to figure it out later. >> i want your thoughts in full, joy, but robert, when you report
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around on this thing, do you hear any crumbling in the base of trump? >> not at all. the evangelical base in iowa perhaps shifting toward cruz, but the ainge ray part, the conservative flank, they're still with him. >> katy tur has more on this. joy, do you see the problem the republican party has, the party of lincoln, has? they don't like to admit they have religious prejudice, because they don't generally have it, but on this issue, it's a problem. >> yeah. for every outrageous thing that donald trump says, and really frankly antithetical idea, and they've been courting that aaronry base from the palin-its, and the tea party, it's been useful to encourage frankly that anger. notice that same party
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leadership finds that it has lost control, because that anger haus turned on them. anytime institutional leadership within the republican party, if they were to turn on trump, that would unfire yacht the base more. remember, chris, part of what this base is angry at is them. they're angry at the leadership. so if the leadership tries to stand up and sort of not give up gaining the world and trying to save its soul to speak back to donald trump, they're going to infuriate that base more. but the real question for them is are these trump supporters, people so angry they're outside of the political process, or are they voting republicans? i think because the leadership isn't sure, they can't take a chance on turning them off. >> here's one reason trump might not lose much support because of hi comments about keeping muslims out of the country. many republicans great with him. a brand-new online poll from purple strategy shows that while only 37% of voters generally say
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they great with a temporary ban on muslims coming from foreign countries, more than two thirds of republicans back the idea. look at that. the poll was conducted yesterday. a separate poll released yesterday set 689% of trump supporters said they would follow him from the party if he ran on a third-party ticket. trump was asked about that possibility just today. >> the people have been phenomenal. the party i'll let you know about that. if i don't get treated fairly, i would certainly consider that. they did a poll in i think it was "usa today" 68 percent of the people who were republicans would follow trump if he went independent. i don't want to do that. number one when you're leading by 20, 21 points, you don't do that. >> that was b.s. by trump. it was 68% of his supporters. there's a number that jumps off that poll that grabs me. the biggest number on that, joy, you can't see this, but the
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biggest number is democrats who oppose this talk of banning muslim people from coming into the country. it's a bigger numb her that the gop supporting trump on this. i think that is the big phenomenon that's been awoken by this comment by him. robert? i think there's more people out there angry at bringing down something we believe in in this country, the freedom of religion. >> everyone in the republican party is gaining out the primary consequences. what about the general election consequences? this is going to cost republicans vote. everyone in the party leadership says this hurts us regardless of who wins the nomination. >> monday when he first made the comment -- he, it -- trump made the comment. it was one more thing, but over the last -- this is now wednesday. two days, 48 hours, it has grown and grown and grown as the country waking up to this and not liking it. >> well, it was a big deal when he said it, in that it was so antithetical for what this
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country has stood for and what everyone understands, freedom of religion, no religious test. that's something that people broadly understand. there was a big initial reaction, and it has mush roomed. so at the same time it was recently an attack. there's a lot of sort of misunderstanding about islam and what a muslim is in this country in general, and so as is saw from the numbers on republicans, even a percentage of democrats who say, yeah, that's not a bad idea. so there is a -- >> i know. i think that something has awoken. first of all i think we live in a country that's very segregated geographically, not always on purpose. some people may have never said hello to a muslim. and only about a fifth of them are arabs. it's just a fact.
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i think when they see a picture of a scary picture of this guy who did the attack with his wife, it looks scary, and they say that's what a muslim in. how to explain this antipathy. >> i think what you're seeing is an accumulation of trump moments. there was a retired general, where he paraphrased the post-world war ii, he came for the blacks in new york city, then for the mexican-americans, then the mexican migrants and now the muslims. for democrats, the larger contest is four days or so before the attack in san bernardino, you had an attack on a planned parenthood clinic by a krissial radical. i think for a lot of democrats, the conversation you're hearing is we've had so many horrific massacres in this country that have nothing to do with the
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islamic faith, nothing to do with muslim at all. you've heard absolute silence on the part of conservatives even when the victims were children, even victims in church, even when the victims were just going to get health care at a planned parenthood clinic, and suddenly donald trump was to shut the borders and seal off the airports and start asking people their religion after this horrific shooting in california. so i think there is for democrats finally a galvanizing pressure to say, look, we need to stop what a lot of democrats -- and there's some republicans saying this is fascism, right? saying the embrace of had kind of trumpian idea as some sort of entertaining thing has got to stop. let's look at what the republicans have been saying. let's hear what he had to say. >> i don't think donald trump is serious, and what he's we need real leadership.
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>> i will support the republican nominee and i'm working hard to make sure i'm it. >> you will support no matter what the voters decide? >> absolutely. it's not going to be donald trump, though. >> this is not conservatism. what was proposed yesterday is not what this party stands for and more importantly not what the country stands for. >> reporter: if trump is the nominee. i will support the republican nominee. >> this suggestion is completely and totally inconsistent with american values. >> would you still be supporting donald trump if you were your party's nominee for president? >> i'm certainly going to support the republican nominee for president. >> donald trump always playing on everyone's worst instincts and fears, saying we're not going to let a single muslim in this country is a dangerous overreaction. >> i'm a republican. i will support the republican nominee. i do not believe donald trump will be the republican nominee.
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>> you go like this, she goes i'm a republican. you shirk when you say it. jeb goes like, well, you know. they are so embarrassed to be what they are -- by the way, you told me something before we went on the air. trump's going to lay low? >> between now and the debate next weeks, he'll have an event in new hampshire, but not much else. his campaign sees this debate as the key moment in december, remain the front-runner. >> he wants to hang fire. he is the target. >> he's going to hang fire. >> he'll be the focus. >> and reason for the audience. >> the reason for the audience. >> i still think something happened this week. joy, quickly for you, i think something happened. when you go after people's religion. that's everybody's not just people of color or minority. everybody has a stake. he's messing with it. >> obviously what he said is reprehensible, but i don't think this hurts his base. there's nothing he can say to
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turn them off. numbers numbers, as tim russert used to say. hillary clinton's strategy is clear, well, she's trying to go after the entire republican field and blame them all on trump. if he loses the nomination fight, she can still run against trump. their, finally let me finish with this line trump has now crossed. think "hardball," the place for politics.
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we're following breaking news from chicago where protesters have taken to the streets to demand the resignation of mayor emanuel. kevin tibbles is live. >> rahm emanuel, the mayor of this city went on television here, spoke in front of his city council and apologized, said that the buck stopped with him. why? because of the perceived mishandling of the videotape of the shooting of a young chicago teenager who was shot 16 times. the police officer in that case subsequently was charged with murder, but they want him out as mayor, and they took to the streets today to make that point. they marched over by city hall, up michigan avenue, the famous magnificent mile, then the gold coast area, and this evening they're supposed to be meeting
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down around police headquarters to continue their demonstration. clearly, milissa, the mayor's apology has not been accepted here. thank you, kevin. "hardball" returns after this.
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welcome back to "hardball." collective outrage over donald trump's total and complete ban on muslims entering this country is reaching a crescendo. "new york daily news" today featured a provocative cartoon. the text which is based on an anti-nazi poem by pass thor martin nimor. i, when he came for the muslims, i did not speak out as i was not a muslim, and then he came for me. trump's latest plan has drawn comparison to the practices this country used in world war ii. tom brokaw last night spoke
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about how the rhetoric echos some dark chapters in american history. >> trump's statement even in the season of extremes, is a dangerous proposal that overrides history, the law and the foundation of america itself. in my lifetime alone, we have been witness to the consequences of paranoia overriding reason. during world war ii, law-abiding japanese citizens were herded into remote internment camps, losing their jobs, businesses and social standing. yesterday donald trump compared his proposal under the wartime authority of roosevelt, though he stopped short of backing internment camps. >> if you look at franklin roosevelt, a highly respected president, look at presidential proclamations back a long time ago. what he was doing with germans, i talians and japanese, we are
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at war. >> you certainly aren't proposing intern machine camps? >> no, by the way, i am not proposing that, and that's not what this -- you have to look at the presidential proclamations. it was tough stuff, but we're not talking about the japanese internment camps. >> no, we're talking about the proclamation, nose as the enemy control program, which allowed the united states government to arrest and detain suspected agents, the difference is the policies were directed against belligerent nations who had attacked or declared war, and targeted people based on the national, not that's religion. if you were german, italian or japanese trying to move around and weren't a citizen, you were subject to detention. that's different from saying everyone who has a concern religion, every catholic in the world would be rounded up. i'm joined by mike at did you havely, deputy managing editor
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did you get some trash talk from donald trump about that? >> i think he was hoping to be person of the year a few days ago, but today when he didn't get it, he dern i think he tweeted out something like i told you they weren't going to name me. so just hard to keep up. it's hat to always be about tramp. >> michael thanks for joining us. >> a pleasure. why did she keep citing historical precedent. this is where you come to, as i said, when you have an unpopular religion, whether it's jewish, hugonat, or -- >> i think you find politicians who do not use historically comparisons. you are so right.
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when he says he would like to do what roosevelt did with the presidential proclamation, those were countries we were fighting, we americans in a war that had been declared by congress. these were people in this country who head passports from nazi germany. >> that is sort of normal. if you're at war with company, you're sore of rounded up. >> absolutely. the cochair of the veterans -- drew a favorable parallel between trump's plans and japanese intern muppet. what he's saying is no different than when we put the japanese in camps. when asked in an interview with "time" whether he would have supported japanese internment camps trump himself says, i hate the concept, but i would have had to be there at the time to -- that's a cute answer. >> yes --
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>> i'm sure we all look back and say if there was any real justification, were there really a significant or any semblance of an agent in that crowd helping the japanese empire, but i don't think so. mainly these are all loyal americans who were very much settled here. >> and michael would know better than i whether he would like that one back to do it over again. certainly a dark spot on his legacy. but don't forget trump is aiming this at a segment of the electorate that has teed up pretty early in the primaries, to come up early next week. short term it's working for him, though you pointed out there's a backlash that probably puts a ceiling on him, we presume. we may be wrong. others candidates who have tried this rhetoric have sometimes surprised pollsters with that support that is not measurable.
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so while we can make some guesses about what this does to his support, we really won't know until they start voting. >> here's dana milbank, he called trump america's modern muss olini. portraying his backers as backers, to and suggesting only his powerful personality can transcend -- i thought it was well written. i may not like the word fascist, but dana milbank knows how to put words together. >> horrible 9/11, horrible pearl harbor when we're observing the anniversary of this week, but thank god those things did not happen during a presidential campaign with people who are eager to exploit them. that's happening right now. >> i wonder if head stopped a
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guy named eisenhower from leading the invasion. do you think that would have been a smart move? he received the nazi surrender. i'm sure the germans noticed that. >> absolutely. >> thank you. you cannot judge people by where their parents or grandparents came from, and you certainly shouldn't judge somebody by their religions you hear me, donald trump? stop it. but you won't. and still ahead, the republican establishment is aghast at trump's muslim plan, but the core supporters have no problem with it, apparently. we'll look at who's backing the gop front-runner and why. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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that's like ship them all back. seriously. >> he's saying don't let any more come in. >> don't let any more come in.
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ship them all back. >> i think it's a good idea with everything going on in the world right now. is sounds harsh, but reality is reality. there's so much hatred toward us, in that culture especially, not to make a blanket statement myself, but i'm okay with it. >> who is cutting off people's heads? who is bombing buildings? who is bombing airplanes? it's not the christian, not the jewish, not the buddhists. you got that on camera, sport? >> you got it, sport? those are some of donald trump's enthusiastic supporters, no matter how you try to adjust, one thing is clear, he's on top. the gop establishment may be outraged, but the trump supporters in particular are standing solid behind him.
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john braybender, thank you and gregory angulo. will it go through this storm which i think is of a different quality? >> i think there's two answers. first, you have to start with the understanding that trump supporters are unlike anything we've seen before, generally blue collar, very much more on the high school educated, not having any real affinity for the party itself or washington. so they're different. they're not a quintessential republican voter. number two is, i do believe this is a bit different. i do believe that for the first time, it is possible that he's gone too far where even his own supporters will saying this outrageous, this isn't what america is about, and hopefully find is very troubling. >> greg? this is a rubicon, a crossing over from poppy ulitch to pop
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you lism. >> donald trump is actually the most pro- -- >> i said if he wouldn't. >> he has a record of not doing that. he supports amendmenting the has been to a gay wedding, friends with george takai. that report doesn't bear out. >> how do you explain the tolerance on orientation, but not ethnicity. >> he's playing on people's fears. keep in mind, this would never happen, but to ban all muslims. they're not supporting trump's plans, as they are the lack of plan and vision.
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>> suppose you are muslim, what would you think? what would you think if you were a muslim and you heard that muslims can't come in. >> this was an un-american plan and unrepublican plan. that's essentially what we said. i'm not being an apologist in that regard, but if we as log cabin republicans are asking for a more inclusive party, it doesn't begin and end with gay community. >> well said, thank you for saying it. following the attacks in san bernardino and paris, many americans have security as a top priority. here's a woman this week in south carolina. >> there's too much going on in the world. i think we need to protect america first. >> reporter: do you feel that this is the main issue that you're focus odd when you're considering who to vote for president? >> yes, definitely. >> john, let's get to this thing. i'm not going to put down the
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trump voters. it sets a fact. number two, i've noticed even though a lot of people, a bulk of people who didn't get to go to college, which is an economic privilege, but he's in the running with people with college degrees. it's only in the larger group where he benefits from people who didn't get the breaks. does that mean they're less willing to support american values? >> what this comes down to is it's not about donald trump. it's having a better understanding of who these people are. they very much feel disenfranchised where from the american political process. >> i agree, they are. >> and they're angry. >> they are. >> the network news movie from 1976, where they're mad at hell. the irony is they're picking a billionaire to be their void. that's the irony in all of this. the question is, is donald trump taking them down a path which there's no return and then it's a paradox for the republican party, these are voters that we
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certainly want, but we don't want the anger and the policies of donald trump. >> you know, i posited something the other night. i think there's a great vacuum this guy has filled. i don't like what he said, but another economic front, they don't see anybody serious about illegal immigration. people change their word to undocumented workers. that's nice to call people that. that's a better phrase than illegal aliens or illeap immigrants, but it doesn't solve the problem. nor does these trade issues, every small town, there's nothing left. the industry is gone. the jobs people used to have coming out of hiss don't exist, and nobody has ever explained that. no leader has come forward and said we have something better for you, because they don't. john brabender, thank you for joining us. i think there's a reality socially that has to be filled, but let's still keep our american values. thank you gary angulo, and keep coming on.
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>> thank you, chris. we turn to the democratic race, yes, it's still going on, hillary clinton tries to buy donald trump's rhetoric to all republicans. she wants trump around the beat up around she wants to keep the face and the words and the positions of trump as something she can run against next november. you're watching "hardball," the place for politics.
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this election is not only about choosing a president, but choosing a commander in chief. donald trump, he does traffic, paranoia. it's not only shameful. it's dangerous. some of the other republican candidates have finally said these latest comments have gone too far, but the truth is a lot of them have said some pretty extreme things, too. welcome back to "hardball" form. clinton has also been trying
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to paint the entire republican field with the same broad brush, forcing them into a corner and making them own all of trump's extreme receipt ring. her campaign released this web ad just today. >> ted cruz is now proposing a bill that would ban any syrian refugees or muslims. >> jeb bush saying we should let in christian refugees. >> if you can prove you're a christian. >> what this if i were orphans under the age of 5. >> i don't think orphans under 5 should be admitted into the united states. >> do you believe that islam is consistent with the constitution? >> i do not. i would not advocate that we put a muslim in charge of this nation. >> i want surveillance of certain mosques, okay? >> it's about closing down any place, whether it's a cavee, a diner, an internet site. >> it's time to wake up and smell the falafel. so whether trump wins the nomination or not,
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hillary clinton has made it clear she plans to run against him, regardless of who she faces. jonathan capeheart, sabrina is a reporter with "the guardian" and jonathan is co-author of is the book "hrc." it looks like a good ad. i like it. can she plaster them with the sail sort of what were you call it, abusive -- >> i don't think she is. she tried it on immigration. i think it works better on that, because there's less of a distinction, but i think what we saw yesterday, the reaction from the republican party to donald trump was a pretty strong rebuke. you saw presidential candidates distancing themselves from him on his particular issue. i think when voters are hearing something else from so many republican leaders, it strains her credibility a bit. >> here's where i disagree to an extent. >> with him? >> let me make clear, you go
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through the statements where they condemn donald trump. all they said is his proposal they they didn't condemn the substance it was. they don't want to stand up for and defend. >> what do you want them to say? >> what the president said the other night, paul ryan, the majority of muslim contribute to our society. >> how about that its immoral? >> nobody is willing to say that because 30% of their supporters agree with trump. >> unfortunately tom ridge was on with chuck todd yesterday, who said i will not support trump if he's the nominees. >> where is the ridge portion of the republican party? i like that portion. >> i know. they're not anywhere to be found. here's where i disagree with jonathan as well. >> you're in a barrel here tonight.
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>> in the clip you saw. >> jonathan upon jonathan violence. >> the ad where you showed that hillary clinton is trying to make it clear that donald trump is not the only one, none of the people she showed said that muslims should be barred. but all those clips were almost as extreme. so whether, you know -- while you're saying it's going to ininjure to her -- >> the two best bets -- they're all tarred with this brush. >> i think we agree, the two best bets are probably cruz and rubio. cruz is very close to trump on a lot of these things emotional politically and ethnically and all that stuff. i don't think rubio will be accused of being a racist. >> he calm out against what donald trump said. he said it was offensive and unconstitutional. and he's actually said i don't support allowing syrian refugees in because we can't vet them. jeb did say that, but what rubio
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has he still plays this up. >> there is such a thing as radical islam. >> he may tone that down in a general election, but trying to walk a finer line. >> there is a difference between talking about fighting terrorists and saying we're going to ban anyone who is muslim, as if you could tell who was muslim by like asking questions. not to mention the -- >> what or somebody over in europe becomes a muslim, are they banned. what if somebody was born a muslim, are they banned? we don't have it on the passports. some guy tess door in new york, and you've got to decide who gets in off the plane, how would you possibly decide it? >> our country is founded on the idea you can escape religious persecution by coming here. right? >> i don't know -- that was in
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my opening if you got here earlier. [ laughter ] the clinton world wants to knock bernie sanders outs with a resounding win in the iowa caucuses. the hurdle is new hampshire. they've been locked in a tight race for month. clinton could effectively slam the door on sander with a win, but it might be easier said than done, a brand-new poll from new hampshire out today a few hours ago shows sanders leading clinton by ten points up there. it's sanders 50, clinton 40, guys. hard to knock the guy out when he's beating you. >>, butti the one place where you see him ahead in the polls. >> if he loses there, is he dead? >> absolutely. >> you agree? >> i do agree. >> if he wins iowa. >> ooh. >> is she dead? she's down 20 there. >> the question for bernie sander is how do you keep democrats voting when you've got all of this going on in the republican primary.
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>> you can pick your battle there. >> you can pick it on the day of the election. >> that's pretty frisky. the roundtable is staying with us. up next, tell me something i don't know, which is always my favorite part. this is "hardball," the place for politics.
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. well, israeli prime minister benjamin netanyahu has come out against donald trump's muslim ban. his official twitter account noted he rejected trump's comments and the state of israel
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respects all religions. in the uk, british prime minister david cameron condemned trump as well calling the plan divisive, unhelpful and quite simply wrong. an online petition hoping to bar trump from the uk personally has racked up a quarter million signatures passing the 100,000 threshold that requires british parliament to consider the matter. so they're going to look at it. we'll be right back.
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we're back with the "hardball" roundtable. >> we're talking about muslims and republicans. i kind of want to draw attention to something that didn't get a lot of attention, which is rand paul successful secured a vote to put a pause on immigration from 30 muslim countries.
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that would have recruited tourists and students. it extended to travelers from germany and visitors from europe. not because they were supportive of the principle of pausing immigration from middle eastern countries. marco rubio said if it had done just that he would have supported it, too. >> why don't we really dump on the countries that have been with us for years like algeria, morocco, jordan, let's really dump on them. jonathan? that would be a great way to build friendship. who are these people ground fighters supposedly we're using to fight isis? they're islamic. >> speaking of fighting isis, one of the things people say, republicans say is that we should cut off the financing. all the money that isis is using to fund itself. in the united states government treasury there is a job called the under secretary of the treasury for terrorism and
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financial crimes. the person in the job right now is acting. his name is adam sizbin. he's been acting for 233 days. today one of the -- >> who's holding this up? >> i'm about to tell you. senator brown put in a request for unanimous consent and it was blocked by senator shelby. so now the person whose job it is to figure out ways -- all sorts of ways to cut off money from isis -- >> what's shelby want? >> i don't know. >> find out. >> all right. >> somebody called senator shelby's office. speaker of the house paul ryan today -- >> what's with the beard, is he playing baseball now? what is that beard about? >> what's with the beard? >> it is a strong rebum of donald trump's policy. talked about the muslim members of the house of representatives. but he's being criticized for not going so far as to say he wouldn't support trump if trump
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was the nominee. he's got a pretty strong prohibition on that as a member of the official republican convention. he's the head of the presidential trust for republicans. if you remember speaker of the house then nancy pelosi refused to endorse in the democratic primary 2008, even though she was helping barack obama for pretty much the same reason. if you're running the convention and part of the running convention you got to stay neutral. >> that's why tipton had endorsement between carter and ted kennedy. thank you to the roundtable. there's nothing wrong with designer stubble. thank you. when we return, let me finish with this line, this line that trump has clearly crossed now about banning people because of their religion. you're watching "hardball, the place for politics.
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that's "hardball" for now. "all in" with chris hayes starts rights now. tonight on "all in," roundly rejected by everyone from president obama to dick cheney. we'll look at just who is lining up with donald trump. plus, republican congressman steve king and democratic congressman keith ellison with their reaction to donald trump's plan to ban muslims from coming to america. and amazing new polling on where rank and file republicans stand on donald trump's bigotry. plus, outrage over supreme court justice antonin scalia's remarks about affirmative action. a stunning courtroom admission from the planned parenthood shooter. >> kill the babies. that's what planned parenthood does. and why chicago mayor rahm emanuel almost lost it. good evening from new york.

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