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hey there, everyone. it's high noon out east, 9:00 a.m. out west. with 50 days until the iowa caucuses, texas senator ted cruz is charging ahead in the polls. a new nbc/"wall street journal" poll shows cruz in a strong second place nationwide. he is just five points behind donald trump among republicans. trump said he's ready for a fight. >> i expect to get it on because i'm leading by a lot. he's been so nice to me. i could say anything and he said, i agree, i agree. but i think the time will come to an end pretty soon. >> ted cruz is gaining ground. ben carson has lost and it's heating up between them, too. here's carson taking a jab at the texas senator. >> there's no question that i haven't spent a lot of time schmoozing and asking for big money and going to cocktail
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parties. more of a politician's experience. and i have healer's experience. >> in a new iowa poll, senator cruz caused another big shake-up. just seven weeks until the first votes are cast and cruz is leading trump by a whopping ten points. kristen welker breaks it all down. good day to you. >> reporter: good day to you. donald trump is trying to discredit that poll that shows him trailing ted cruz. it could show real signs of trouble for trump in the hawkeye state. it's taken from december 7th through the 10th, largely after trump's controversial comments about banning muslims from entering the united states. donald trump may have met his match in iowa. according to a new des moines register poll, ted cruz now leads trump by a commanding ten points. 31% to 21%. this after trump said all muslims should be banned from entering the u.s., a controversial position he defended in south carolina on
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saturday. >> and now all of a sudden, everyone is coming and saying, you know, he's right. >> trump slammed the polli calling it biased. cruz said it's a testament to the fact that cruz's message is working. cruz questioning trump's judgment during a private fund-raiser. trump hit back on friday trying to undermine cruz's evangelical credentials by making a reference thos cuban theritage. >> i do like cruz but not a lot of evangelicals come out of cuba. >> other gop rivals are sharpening their attacks. marco rubio criticized trump's policy. >> it's not going to happen. it violates a lot of things we think about our country. >> reporter: the democratic race is also heating up. bernie sanders now topping secretary hillary clinton in a
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recent new hampshire poll. while he continues to draw policy distinctions with clinton, on saturday, sanders saved his sharpest jabs for the republican front-runner. >> trump and other demagogues attempting to divide this country. that is disgufsting. that sis unacceptable and as a nation we must reject it. >> reporter: the new poll shows that trump is still leading nationally with 27% of primary voters. but cruz is in striking distance. that's significant. he gets 22%. that's up 12 moipoints. dr. ben carson has dropped dramatically in the national poll and iowa poll. >> okay, kristen welker from the whour white house, thank you. with me, jeremy peters. as we look at mr. trump leading in the nationwide polls but falling behind in iowa, how
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significant is that? >> i think it's pretty significant. it's an xroord shake-up. that was the way very well respected pollster described this latest poll in iowa that shows cruz having jumped 20 points since the last survey in october. that's really incredible. while it shows how much the race has changed up until this point, it's important to keep in mind how much more could change in the month and a half until voting starts in iowa. let's remember, 2012, which isn't always a perfect analogy to 2016, newt gingrich was at something like 40% in december. so i think a lot can still shake out here. >> i don't think there's any perfect analogy to 2016. let's go with the recent "new york times"/cbs poll. viewers say they're scared of what donald trump would do in office. can the gop realistically choose him with such strong opposition?
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>> i still think if he's the nominee, you have every reason to believe that republicans will lose something like 40 states. he's just -- he's reckless with his words. he has not proven to be somebody who has a firm grasp of policy. and that kind of stuff against hillary clinton in a general election will just doom him. if you listen to republican primary voters, trump supporters about why they support him, they support him in spite of those things. they like the fact that he is vulgar, that he speaks off the cuff without a filter. and it's almost like the more that the mainstream media criticizes him, more democrats criticize him and establishment republicans criticize him, the stronger he becomes. >> your last comment dealing with nationally and what would happen were he to be pitted against hillary clinton. let's look at iowa. the numbers show 76% of those
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polled nationwide believe that trump says what he truly believes. he's not saying what he thinks is politically correct to his base. this is how he thinks. does this candor help him or hurt him in iowa? >> i think ultimately people want to see a competent leader. to the extent that trump is more of a -- projects strength, and that's what he's trying to do, then that has more of an effect. and this -- does he tell it like it is question, i think is just an added benefit for him. what's going on there is people see a stagnant political system, leaders that have been elected and promised to change things and ultimately don't change things and they see donald trump as the manifestation of somebody that can bust all that up. >> how about senator ted cruz. why is he gaining ground? >> i was just in iowa. one of the more remarkable things i observe was how people said that cruz has really been
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hustling on the ground there. it's not just cruz. something that doesn't get talked about is the way his father, who is a preacher, is going out and working the churches. that goes a long way. evangelicals are something like 60% of the iowa republican electorate? 60% of the caucus goers in the last election. that's really significant. to the extent that cruz is able to present himself as the choice. he got that big endorsement earlier this week from the family leader, a religious conservative group. this is strengthening him. >> i can't always make sense of what donald trump is saying but the fact he calls out ted cruz. you just talked about his father. he's an evangelical pastor. >> it's one of those things that trump says that really doesn't make any sense. it's not rational or true. like a lot of evangelical comes out of the upper east side where
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trump lives? come on. it's trump speaking in code and trying to undermine cruz's biggest strength. that's what ultimately donald has done to other cand daidatec. undermine them. didn't work the same way with rubio and jeb and carson. i don't see this one sticking. >> you wrote about chris christie attacking marco rubio for being hard to find in new hampshire. is that race becoming a fight for second place? >> it really is. christie has been on the up swing there. you see him virtually now tied with rubio for second place in the latest poll. it's funny because while iowa in a way is shaping up between this battle of who the anti-establishment favorite is, new hampshire is just the opposite. it's the battle for the establishment favorite and right now that race is coming down to christie and rubio. christie really needs to make rubio out.
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he's been trying hard to do that. his attacks were on rubio as not being adequately prepared or experienced enough in foreign policy and national security. now it's that marco is not in it to win it in new hampshire and christie is hoping that undermines him with new hampshire voters who take quite seriously their second in the nation status. >> from "the new york times," jeremy peterss, always good to talk to you. in other news, the los angeles county sheriff holding a press conference about a develop involved shoot chicago is sparking protests. the crowd marched through the streets of linwood last night chanting no justice, no peace. the video of the shooting may be disturbing to some. police say the 28-year-old man who is black was armed and had been firing a gun in the area. deputies continued to fire at the man after he fell to the ground and was trying to crawl away. the video does not show the events leading up to the shooting. let's bring in law enforcement
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analyst jim cavanaugh. okay, jim. first up, i want to reiterate what the sheriff said. he's urging caution. don't draw conclusions from this singular video here. what are your observations from this? >> well, when you take the totality of the circumstances, it looks like the deputies were justified to use deadly force here. a man on the street shooting a gun. multiple reports from citizens said he's shooting his gun. they confront him. they order him to drop the weapon. he refuses and points it at the deputies. he tries to walk away. you can see it clearly. they have the absolute right to use deadly force to stop him. he's in a crowded city area, on a sidewalk, in front of a market. there's citizens all over the place. they have to stop him. they shoot him. he falls. but he's still determined to get away, he keeps crawling to get away. what you have to understand when you are dealinging with a man with a gun, all he has to do is
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pull the trigger and you can shoot from a prone position. we shoot from a kneeling position, crouched position, standing position, that doesn't stop your trigger finger. and also what the officers can do is shoot to stop him from killing someone else and that is pulling the trigger. >> i was going to -- i was thinking about whether he may have been intoxicated or on drugs. all he has to do regardless of his physical or mental state is pull the trigger. also this was in a very possible place. there were a lot of calls. multiple calls to 911 saying there's a guy with a gun shooting. how much does that play into an officer's decision to take action? >> it really does affect your decision. if you are in the middle of a vacant field and you can get cover, that's one thing. when youor the city street. anyone could have walked out of that market. he's likely suicidal. he confronts the officers and
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points it at them. every day in america we have suicidal people who take others lives and kill themselves. somebody could have walked around the market, a driver, a person on a bicycle. you can shoot accurately with a handgun at 50 yards. that's 150 feet. you can shoot when you are prone. you can shoot. he was so determined not to drop the gun. it's a sad case. he's a 28-year-old man, a father. but he was in some kind of a mental episode or suicidal e episode and it looks like the deputies were justified. the sheriff wants a complete investigation. he's going to look at the video from the gas station, the witnesses and deputies statements. everybody involved. one of the sad facts is why does a man have a .45 pistol walking on a street in the crowded city shooting it. that's disturbing there. with all the active shooters we have it puts everyone in gross danger. it's completely different than the laquan mcdonald case where
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the young man is laying on the street with a knife and he's shot 13 times. that's an execution. that's first-degree murder. it's an awful case. this is not comparable. a gun changes everything. the trigger pull changes everything. >> jim cavanaugh, much appreciated for your insights. turning now to san bernardino, a three-day search at a lake is over. officials did not say if they found any evidence abandoned by syed farook and his wife tashfeen malik. malik passed three background checks by american immigration officials as she moved to the united states from pakistan. she made little effort to hide social website posts. it was not until this current investigation that they discovered the old and previously unreported postings. from there now to the weather, at least two tornadoes caused considerable damage across portions of texas. many residents say the only
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advanced warning was from the alarms. usually notices are sent to people's phones which didn't happen in this case. no injuries reported. now for a look at weather across the country let's go to reynolds wolf. good day, reynolds. >> what a story we have to share with you and our dear friends across america. thunderstorm forecast today for parts of texas into louisiana, arkansas, maybe even some tornadoes. they can't be ruled out today. could be very rough by the time we get to midday and into the afternoon. rainfall totals, depends on where you happen to be. two, maybe three inches of rainfall. some spots maybe as much as five. flash flooding could be an issue as we make our way into tomorrow and monday evening. back to the west, it's not the rain, it's the snow. we could get heavy stuff in the high sierra. better news for the skiers. anyone making that drive through truckee to sacramento could be very rough. donner pass. some few feet of snowfall.
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wasatch range that's been missing out on some of the snowfall. we're talking about great snow. skiers, snowboarders, celebrate. that's the good stuff. let's head back to you, alex. >> reynolds, wolf, thank yeou. now that the world's leaders have graagreed on a climate dea what comes next? for adults with an advanced lung cancer called "squamous non-small cell", previously treated with platinum-based chemotherapy, it's not every day something this big comes along.
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questions are now starting to grow. even president obama admits to some doubts. >> no agreement is perfect, including this one. negotiations that involve nearly 200 nations are always challenging. even if all the initial targets set in paris are met, we'll only be part of the way there when it comes to reducing carbon from the atmosphere. so we cannot be complacent because of today's agreement. the problem is not solved because of this accord. but make no mistake. the paris agreement establishes the enduring framework the world needs to solve the climate crisis. this agreement represents the best chance we've had to save the one planet that we've got. >> and msnbc's tony decopolo has been following the developments. what are the questions about? >> thanks for having me again, alex. the questions are about selling
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this to the american people and convincing republicans who don't currently support the president's global warming strategy to come on board. in the two weeks leading up to this historic voted, the house and senate passed legislation that would block obama's centerpiece move, the clean power plant. and all the republican candidates and the front-runner donald trump have said the president is wrong, wrong, wrong on global warming. listen to what donald trump had to say a week ago when president obama delivered his address to the united nations. >> i think one of the dumbest statements i've ever heard in politics in the history of politics, as i know it, was obama's statement that our number one problem is global warming. okay? when we have large groups of people that want to blow up every one of our cities and kill our people and he's worried about global warming. i think it's one of the dumbest things i've ever seen.
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>> so president obama seems to think that anyone who takes that position will not hold it once they get into the white house and have to make decisions that really hold sway with a global audience. part of the deal struck is a $100 billion per year that richer countries need to funnel to poorer countries to adapt to climate change. this was a crucial part of the deal. republicans have the ability to block that money. right now a budget fight in congress. it's running until december 16th. the first tranche of money is in that. republicans have said no way we're going to release it. >> tony, we'll check in for more next hour. thank you, from paris. it's been called the largest education event in the world. the program that could one day turn these children into future video game producers. (ray) i'd like to see more of the old lady.
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welcome back. today marks one month since the paris attacks. now there are new arrests. this time in switzerland. kelly cobiella has more from our london bureau. what do we know about these arrests and the investigations into the paris attacks? >> the swiss prosecutor says these two men are from syria, had syrian passports and are suspected of making and transporting explosives and possibly toxic gas. they were arrested on friday, found with traces of explosives in a car, officials said. this as a massive manhunt continues in geneva for at least four other suspects. >> heavily armed police patrolled geneva. the city on a heightened state of alert after a tip that four people with ties to the islamic state may be planning a specific
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attack. swiss prosecutor said the two syrian men under arrest are not tied to that manhunt. they spoke no french, he said, and had recently arrived in switzerland. a month after the attack on paris, which left 130 dead, suspect salah abdeslam is still on the run. belgian investigators are looking for this man, muhammad abrini seen with abdeslam two days before the attack. in paris, an impromptu vigil at the bataclan theater where 89 were killed. nerves are still raw. >> we are more attentive about our environment. we pay attention. but we feel very sad. >> france is still under a state of emergency but this weekend, protesters were given a special last-minute permit to demonstrate against the climate change talks.
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the demonstration was peaceful. at the cafes where dozens were killed, mountains of flowers and memorials still stand. but there are still signs of a city moving on. the bonn pierre has been open for over a week and customers are coming back. and back to that investigation there, unconfirmed reports in a british paper that one of the paris attackers, abdelhamid abaaoud had pictures of birmingham, england, on his phone. this has not been confirmed by nbc news. according to a british security analyst, there appear to be some links to the united kingdom with the paris attacks but how relevant they are is still unclear. police here will only say about this latest report that the terror threat is severe still in this country and an attack is highly likely. alex? >> kelly cobiella in london, thank you. a new political rivalry is
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brewing as donald trump ten points behind ted cruz in iowa polling comes out swinging against the senator from texas. >> i'm leading him by a lot. >> why should voters go for you over ted cruz? >> because i'm more capable. because i have a much better temperament. because i actually get along with people much better than he does. people don't know that about me. i have a great relationship with people. in fact, i was criticized in the beginning because i get along with democrats and liberals and conservatives. i get along with everybody. >> he doesn't? >> as a world class businessman, that's what you have to do. >> he doesn't? >> no, i don't think he does. >> dnc chairman howard dean and former bush administration senior adviser, robert tranham. i wish i could have seen your faces while playing that clip. robert, let's talk about the clip he just heard. is this a threatened trump? should he be worried about ted cruz? >> absolutely. if you look at the latest
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bloomberg des moines, iowa, poll, cruz is ten points up. number one, obviously, he's a true conservative. evangelicals in iowa and all 99 counties there are resonating to ted cruz. a really big conservative in iowa came out and endorsed cruz a few moments ago. if senator cruz wins iowa and goes on and maybe wins new hampshire or maybe comes in second, it blocks trump a little bit from a ground gaining standpoint and mental standpont and becomes really hard for trump to win the gop nomination. >> this coming from the gop. i'm just going to say from the gop representative here. >> on several key issues in this iowa poll, that's includes immigration and the economy. trump's support is more than double cruz's. even though cruz is in first place. governor dean, what do you make of that? >> first of all, i was a former vermont governor, not new
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hampshire. >> did i say that? >> i'm so sorry. not quite enough coffee. go ahead. >> is it the same media market? >> well, maybe. all right. go ahead. >> that's right, robert. so i think this is fascinating. i have said for some time that cruz has played this brilliantly. and i think -- i don't think that we can speculate about winning new hampshire. i think it's incredibly unlikely but he very well could win iowa. what i don't know is what's kind of a ground game does he have? no ground game, no win in iowa. the most shocking thing to this for me is if you take the top three, which are still in iowa, carson, cruz and trump, they put all these supposed establishment candidates into single digits where they remain pretty much in every state in the union. so it doesn't make a lot of difference for us or probably to the republican party if trump or cruz wins.
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cruz is probably hated more by republicans in washington than donald trump is. i think this is a fascinating -- more of a fascinating year here. >> can i interject. historically on the gop side, whoever wins the iowa caucus typically has a wonderful, wonderful night but does not go on to win the presidential nomination. let's put this in terms of reality check. >> that is true. >> the other poll shows that cruz has a dominating lead among evangelic evangelicals. trump is trying to burnish his religious credentials in response. let's listen to him do so in des moines on friday. here's that. >> i am an evangelical, a christian, a presbyterian. i do like ted cruz, but not a lot of evangelicals come out of cuba, in all fairness? it's true. not a lot come out. but i like him nevertheless. >> robert, i'm curious if this is all a lost cause.
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i keep making the point that ted cruz's father is an evangelical minister. it doesn't make a lot of sense. that's an evangelical who came out of cuba right there. are trump's chances with religious voters diminishing? >> you have to look at the au s authenticity. i'm going to question the positions that's they take. donald trump was a democrat, then turned republican, then back to a democrat. to my knowledge he is pro choice. he is very, very liberal and/or moderate on a lot of social issues. those are issues that quote/unquote evangelicals hold near and dear in iowa. i don't think it adds up when it comes to the rhetoric versus the reality. ted cruz is an evangelical. as relates to his voting positions in the united states senate. to your point, with respect to his family history, there is an authenticity there with iowans. they are very informed voters.
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they can see the smoke as opposed to the fire there. >> governor, i want to look ahead to tuesday and the final gop debate of the year. what are you expecting there? >> i'm expecting a knock-down, drag out between donltd trump and ted cruz and ted cruz and marco rubio. robert hit it on the head. chuck todd did an interesting analysis this morning talking about the different lanes these folks have. and cruz is an evangelical and knows how to talk to evangelicals. trump is not an evangelical, whatever he may say. we've seen probably a permanent shift in iowa. unless cruz says something really outrageous, i think that he has a great shot at winning iowa. i still think the odds are with trump. when you go south, i don't think that -- i think this working class group of people who are deeply resentful that trump has
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put together the winning coalition in the republican party. but we've been surprised this entire season. >> we sure have. to your point, chuck todd did a really great interview. that will air on msnbc when this show ends at 2:00 p.m. eastern. howard dean and robert traynham of vermont. one of the largest education events ever held and they learned to code. it's part of a global initiative to get children interested in computer science. olivia sterns went back to school to learn that anyone can crack the code. >> so what do i do? >> you drag. move right over here. >> reporter: jordan meyers is a student at easton area high school in easton, pennsylvania. >> how do i get it to move? >> you click the run button. >> she's on a mission to teach me how to make a very basic star wars video game. i'm a tough case and just one of
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tens of millions of people who pulled themselves up to a computer last week to participate in a global event call the hour of code. >> the hour of code! >> this is so cool. >> it started three years ago with a call to get as many kids as possible in as many countries to spend just one hour creating computer code. big name companies like google, microsoft and amazon all got on board. apple even sponsored an event at every single apple store in the world. then last year a message from the president. >> while no one is born a computer scientist, becoming a computer scientist isn't as scary as it sounds. >> a movement was born. today it's teachers at schools like easton who are trying to convince kids coding is cool. >> a lot of people picture the nerd that's in the basement and it's dark and they are solo coding. >> reporter: michael is jordan's teacher. this isn't just about trying to engage kids. it's about trying to employ them. in the past year, 38,000 people
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graduated with computer science degrees. but there were some 660,000 computer science positions available. the department of labor says that number is only going to get bigger. by 2020, some 1 million computer science jobs are expected to go unfills. that's why he is recruiting kids. that and anyone can do it. >> to be honest, computerses are cheap. don't take a lot of technology to make a computer program. so we are giving the opportunity for kids no matters what their house looks like, no matter what their gender is to do something exciting with computers and make programs. >> jordan says part of the problem getting kids to code, it can be a little intimidating. >> i was scared to start taking this class because everybody makes it sound so scary to code. >> you were a lot better at it than i was. >> i practice. and practice makes perfect with anything. >> that's true. >> i'm not sure the force was
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with me in my hour of code, but -- >> good job. >> but jordan has proved she's a true coding jed ei master. olivia sterns, easton, pennsylvania. coming up, a look at the impact attacks are having on muslims in america.
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we've seen in san bernardino. what will that have on muslims in this country? >> i think muslims are strugg struggling for identity, realizing the time for simple press releases to conduct acts of terror has gone. but certainly we hope america will stand with us reformers. there's only a solution within the house of islam. if we're going to enable that, we need to empower muslims to be part of the american fabric but to realize that all of america, if it's going to have a long-term strategy, muslims are going to lead that. we need to recognize our founding fathers fought for religious liberties. if muslims are going to do that we can't allow bigotry to dominate the conversation in america. >> in the wake of the san bernardino shootings, the leader of a local mosque in riverside call for the people at the mosque to do more to volunteer in the community to give back even more which was an extraordinary step.
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let's talk about in the wake of the attack. donald trump called for a complete shut down of muslims entering the united states until our country's representatives can figure out what is going on. how have those comments affected the muslims in america? >> i think what's happening is these types of comments, and both sides of the political spectrum have been using muslims to score points. we need tough love. one side is too much into the love about monolithic approaches to islam. it's peaceful. doesn't need reform. the other side, the trump mantra is all muslims are monolithsic, part of the problem. what that does, it's complete surrender to the narrative of islamism from isis, saudi arabia, the muslim brotherhood that they dominate what islam is. we have a muslim reform movement bipartisan. the boston globe just wrote an editorial from europe, canada, america. it's not about politics. it's about uniting behind a
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declaration that we're against the caliphate, islamic state. for the equality of men and women. we recognize these are the root causes of radicalization and we can no longer just say we're against the act of terror. we have to look at the root causes. as long as the narrative is dominated by folks without a strategy who are just about pandering like mr. trump or even the left with hillary and not approaching it from within, we're going to not get to a long-term strategy in this problem. >> as you heard coming into this segment, sir, we've been reporting on the surge in anti-muslim violence. what's been the reaction? >> i think ults matly we hope that's americans can begin to wake up to what we really are. are we going to surrender to radicalism? that's what happens if you alienate muslims and act out this way. i hope muslim groups don't fan the flames and put the siege mentality on the community.
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the best way to ebb the tide of anti-muslim bigotry is for us not to be victims but lead the fight. wave the american flag. liberty is the solution against theocracy, iran and saudi arabia and the brotherhood. the isises of the world don't come out of thin air. we can satisfy that appetite. where's the moderate voices? once they see that, bigotry will melt away. >> hillary clinton responds to trump's comments last week. muslims are peaceful and tolerant people and have nothing whatsoever to do with terrorism. you've also been somewhat critical of clinton's approach to muslims in america. what message do you think she should be sending? >> i think again, her message is monolithsic. it doesn't allow us to realize that islam is in that time of history where we have to push back. i'd rather hear her say islam is
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the brother but muslims are the ones that are part of the solution. we can thread that needle like our founding fathers did. they should project a strategy of what they're going to do in the long term. she's mentioned jihadists. why not say the jihadists are the problem. those who believe in the western experiment of human rights are the solution. instead of lumping all of islam as theocrats. when she does that, you alienate the moderates that's you need to fight this fight. >> many thanks for your time, sir. much appreciate it. >> thank you. in our next hour, how students in china are becoming a boon for american colleges that need lots of cash. what's fueling the influx coming up. (phone ringing)
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climate deal be really? that's the big question after nearly 200 countries signed on to the pact saturday in paris. here to help me answer that, the president of the environmental defense fund. and fred with a big welcome to you. i want to start with your own words on the deal. what is most promising about the deal is that it matches ambition with accountability but accountability has been the big issue with this accord so far. questions about enforcement. how do you get all these countries in line? ambition without accountability is just rhetoric. that's just the big thing here that the countries have agreed that all nations developed and developing will pledge ambitious cuts. that's the first time that's ever happened. and then there will be a transparent system of reporting and assessment set up and so that sets up a dynamic where the world will know who is living up to their commitments and who is not.
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so that is the accountability built into the agreement. >> a number of the deal's supporters have said it's a great framework but is that aggressive enough or just the reality of it? >> it really does begin the -- a new more ambitious era in the history of climate action. the delays are now over. countries, instead of blaming each other coming up with the old excuses why they couldn't do this or that. they are now mutually cooperating and setting examples for each other about what can be done. this is the first time we've ever had an agreement where china and india, the united states, all the countries are pledging. so, no, it's not enough to solve global warming, and i don't think anyone going to paris ever thought it would be. but it does set up a ladder of ambition, a way to ratchet up
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these commitments. >> you recently wrote 2015 has been a breakthrough year for the environment. you've explained why for 2015. what's next for 2016? >> in 2016, china will be writing the rules for national carbon market. this is a huge thing. i believe that president obama and president xi of china's cooperative spirit and both pledging actions in both our country was what really ended up creating the momentum to have a good agreement in paris. in 2016, china will be developing its rules. other countries now need to act to make their commitments real and a lot of the rules under the agreement need to be worked out on transparency and cooperating. >> thank you. 50 days until the iowa
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new polls raise hopes for ted cruz just 50 days before the iowa caucuses. >> i'm not looking to be politically correct. i'm doing this to do the right thing. this and other things. >> he's not backing down. donald trump reaffirms his proposed muslim ban. how is that affecting him in today's polls? >> a new report questions how tashfeen malik got a visa even though she expressed support for violent jihad on social media. welcome to "weekends with alex witt." the 2016 race is heating up with just 50 days until the iowa caucuses. in a new iowa poll, senator ted
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cruz has trumped the donald. cruz leads donald trump by ten points. trump said this morning he's ready for a fight. >> i expect to get it on because i'm leading by a lot. >> nbc news white house correspondent kristen welker is joining us with more on this. another good day to you. we see cruz leading in iowa now. how much is he gaining nationally? >> nationally he is catching up to donald trump as well. another headline today. according to our latest nbc news/"wall street journal" poll, just out today, take a look at the numbers donald trump gets 27% of primary voters. ted cruz gets 22%. significant because that's up 12 points from our last survey. now these two one-time allies have really been resistant to take aim at each other but that has changed in recent days. we've seen them both ramp up their attack lines against each other. take a listen to what donald trump had to say earlier today about ted cruz.
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>> i have good judgment. i have great judgment. i would say i have far better judgment than ted. i expect to get it on because i'm leading by a lot. he's been so nice to me. i mean, i could say anything, and he says, i agree, i agree. but i think the time will come to an end pretty soon. >> earlier this week, during a private event, ted cruz questioned donald trump's judgment. so i think we'll see some of that rhetoric start to heat up. this is also significant, though, because both of these polls, the iowa poll that you mentioned and our nbc news/"wall street journal" poll were largely conducted while trump was in the throws of dieealing with the fall out of those controversial comments where he call for banning all muslims from entering the united states. donald trump has weathered a number of storms. this could be the one controversy that may be catching up with him. we'll have to see. >> kristen, can you put your finger on what is giving senator
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cruz a boost? >> one, you're seeing dr. ben carson drop in both of these polls. nationally and in iowa by double digits. secondly, i think that voters see ted cruz as a credible candidate who is also anti-establishment. he's someone who is not afraid to take on his party. we've seen him do it a number much times in d.c., particularly during the budget battles. when you look at iowa, he is clearly resonating with evangelicals. a number of factors working in his favor. that's why we're seeing donald trump really ramp up his attack lines. he sees them as a real result. >> kristen welker, thanks. here with us you, fred yang. i know you worked on the nbc/"wall street journal" poll we've been discussing. first question, look. we've senatored senator ted cruz up in iowa. is this a fluke or a trend? >> what we're seeing is there was going to be someone who was
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going to be the anti-trump for the summer and early part of the fall it was ben carson. as kristen said, as he's faded, ted cruz has jumped to take the mantel as the anti-cruz. here's one thing ted cruz has that other candidates don't. a credible, conservative candidate for president right now for republicans. and conservatives, values voters, tea party voters, they are a healthy segment of the primary electorate especially in caucus states like iowa. >> you mentioned ben carson. he dropped 15 points in iowa since the last "des moines register" poll. why the dramatic slide, and what can he do to gain support in that critical state, or is it lost? >> i think this election has been so interesting on the republican side. it's hard to say anyone is winning or losing. i think the terrorist attacks in paris, i think the focus on strength and leadership probably
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hurt him more than other cand daits. but, look. these still on our nbc/"wall street journal" poll the most popular republican candidate in terms of feeling thermometer. for someone to dismiss him, is premature. but donald trump is jgenerating heat with his rhetoric. ted cruz is generating heat with his ideology. there's room for maybe one more person. it's either marco rubio or ben carson fighting for that third spot. >> we've got 50 days to go. a lot can change. >> you mentioned the national security issues which have grabbed the headlines since the attacks in paris and san bernardino. this poll asked voters if they favored or opposed trump's ban on immigrants. among all voters, 25% favor the ban. 57% oppose it. among republicans, 42% favor it. 36% oppose it. so do you think this is going to hurt trump moving forward?
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>> well, i think, look, i hate to give a pollster answer. it remains to be seen. number one, as our republican colleagues that's do the poll with us have said, this is a new issue for the american public. the otheri interesting number i the 17% who said they have no opinion because this is such a new reality people are dealing with. it's an extreme proposal. look. the arc of donald trump in 2015 is no matter what he says or who he offends, it seems to help him. our polling showed at the very least he's remained static. but that has given a chance for someone like a ted cruz and even a marco rubio to sort of come up the rear and draft off of trump's persona. so, look, as we get closer to iowa, 50 days, 49 days, 48 days, as americans look to see who really will be their next leader, i think that's when we'll really see if trump has
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staying power or not. >> don't want to let you go without news on the democratic side. bernie sanders leading hillary clinton in new hampshire. how significant is that? >> it's significant if she can't win iowa and all the polls show she has a comfortable lead in iowa. but, look, in some respects, alex, bernie sanders is new hampshire's favorite son. new england state like vermont. i think if mrs. clinton wins iowa, if sanders wins new hampshire, the rubber match will be south carolina. >> fred yang, always good to see you. thanks so s so much. the fbi has ended its search of a san bernardino lake. officials had no further comment on whether anything of value was discovered during that three-day search. meanwhile, police arrested a 23-year-old man in connection with a fire bombing of a mosque in california. authorities have charged the suspect with a hate crime. nbc's morgan radford is in
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san bernardino with details on both stories. what have you learned from investigators, first up in san bernardino? >> good morning. the fbi has conclude their search of that lake. it does appear they were able to pull out two small items, although they are being mum on what those items contain. they are hoping they contain evidence not only about what the killers knew but also what other people knew. other people like enrique marquez. he's the young man who investigators say they were told planned a 2012 attack with syed farook. if he knew about that attack, what did he know about this one? this is a young man who neighbors and even people who frequented the same bars as him say they didn't realize he was married to a member of syed farook's family. they didn't realize he was married at all or that he converted to islam. lots of questions as tensions continue to rise here in san bernardino. you can see a memorial where people have left flags and prayers and posters for the victims.
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as this happened, members of the local muslim community are continuing to raise money for the san bernardino victims. just as they are doing that, a local mosque here was fire bombed on friday. that's just 90 miles up the road in coachella, california. and the 23-year-old man taken into custody has been accused of a hate crime. when nbc news went to speak to his parents they said he's an adult. we had no idea what he planned and we believe he was influenced by social media and we have no plans to bail him out. >> morgan radford in san bernardino, thank you. a deputy involved shooting near los angeles is sparking protests. the crowd marched through the streets of lynnwood last night chanting no justice, no peace. the video of the shooting, and it may be disturbing to some of you. here it is. police say the 28-year-old man who is blacked was armed and had been firing a gun in the area. deputies continued to fire at
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the man after he fell to the ground and was trying to crawl away. the video does not show the events leading up to the shooting. the l.a. sheriff's department is holding a news conference in about an hour or so. today marks one month since the horrific attacks in paris. mourners laid flowers and placed candles in front of the bataclan theater. we'll bring you a live report from there in a few minutes. president obama goes to the pentagon tomorrow to huddle with his national security council to talk about isis. the white house says the president will make an announcement following that meeting. what can we expect our commander in chief to stay? bill richardson joins me next. at planters know how to throw a remarkable holiday party. just serve classy snacks and be a gracious host, no matter who shows up. [cricket sound] richard. didn't think you were going to make it. hey sorry about last weekend, i don't know what got into me.
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fight against isis. do you think he's succeeding? >> i think the president's policy is in the right direction. i'd like to see a little more aggressiveness. my hope is he sets up counterterrorism military bases around the world. maybe that's why he's going to that center. i think we need a no-fly zone. i agree with secretary clinton. we also need to increase our military pressure on sunni countries, the saudis, iraqis to put troops on the ground. we've got to start telling turkey, you've got to start helping us. those oil flows isis seems to be getting along with assad. enemies working with enemies to finance isis. there are a lot of aggressive steps that's need to happen. i'd also tighten the visa process, the k-1. this woman, the san bernardino apparently got through after attacking us, the country in
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social media. but i think barring muslims, that's unconstitutional. that's hurting us. that is giving isis recruitment tools. what trump is saying. stop that. but, obviously, he's not going to do that. >> i'm going to say you're consistent. you've echoed those sentiments here again and earlier on this broadcast. i'm curious about your interpretation of sunday night's speech from the oval office. how do you think the president did? >> i think he did well, but i think the country wants to be reassured more. i travel a lot overseas, within the country, i've been at airports. people are very uneasy. i think we have to protect our constitutional rights. we've got to protect our immigration system. but a tightening of the visa process is needed. that is obvious. because of the heightened terror alerts, we have to, at our airports, tsa, i'm going to be very unpopular. but i think they're doing a good
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job. but i think militarily, we need to get countries like france more aggressive in the aerial bombardments. germany, more than they said they have done. get nato involved, too. get an increase in our special forces. we have 50 there. i'd increase it a little more. get nato special forces, too. the president is heading in that direction. >> how about republican candidate marco rubio who has been critical of the president's plan on isis. the senator outlined what he'd do if he occupied the oval office. >> we need more air strikes. you can't just defeat them from the air. number one, put together a global coalition on the ground, made up primarily of arab sunnis. we need to countermessage them. propaganda has always played a role. this is critical here. >> how dchifferent is what the senator is proposing different
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from the president's agenda? >> there's very little difference. senator rubio did not call for ground forces. that is very unpopular not just in this country. in europe. nobody wants to do this. what we need to get is ground forces from the sunni countries arab countries. that's what president obama is trying to do and rubio is for that also. so he's trying to have it both ways, being critical but at the same time basically agreeing with the president. >> speaking of the presidential contest and mention of donald trump and his comments about barring muslims from entering the u.s., you said that gives isis propaganda. what impact could mr. trump's remarks have to put forward some kind of international coalition to fitd isis? >> doesn't help because it inflames muslim countries around the world. we need the saudis. we need the iraqis. we need egypt. and it's going to inflame them. these are muslim countries.
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and when one major presidential candidate, i don't think he's going to make it, but he is leading in the polls, says he wants to bar muslims from coming into america, that sends a terrible message and becomes a recruiting tool. it hurts our national security. maybe it helps him with the 25% he has in the republican primary. and maybe it helps in this fight with ted cruz but it hurts our country. it hurts us as a nation constitutionally, morally, for him to say that. and i'm distressed. i travel a lot and i hear it. i get asked this. and i don't have an answer. well, he's not going to make it. by the way, i've been wrong. i thought he would have flamed out by now. obviously, he keeps going. >> there are a lot of people who said the same thing and they are still scratching their heads. >> i want to get back to what you said about the visa system and how it needs to be fixed, improved. do you have any ideas what can be done to fix it? >> well, i think
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technologically, we have to be able to detect that in a visa application, if that individual attacks the united states in social media. and social media is huge. we have to expand the technological funding we give to these agencies. in addition to that, we do have a broken immigration system. it's not just those that are trying to enter the 12th million undocumented workers. it's across the board. the h1b visas. those that come in that can help us as a country technologically that have higher education. it's an entire visa process, but most importantly, the vetting, any connection to terrorism. i think we should look at some of these countries, individuals that have traveled in sudan, in some of the countries that are state sponsors of terrorism. tighten some of those requirements. >> former ambassador to the u.n., former secretary of
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second place. on the democratic front, bernie sanders is in iowa looking to gain supporters with just 50 days left for the caucuses. danny freeman has the latest from des moines. with a good morning to you, your time, how are people there responding to sanders? >> good morning to you, alex. absolutely, the supporters of senator sanders are spupporting him very much. very enthusiastic to see him. will he translate that into caucus support? he marked his first trip back to iowa since before thanksgiving. this is a two-day swing. his supporters in clinton iowa and waterloo were eating up what he had to say. we saw senator sanders who was fired up like he was in the summer, really passionate about his message and giving a direct message, especially to gop front-runner donald trump.
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take a listen to that. >> what i am seeing is trump and other demagogues attempting to divide this country, to force or try to get the american people to hate somebody because of their religion or because of their country of birth. that is disgusting. that is unacceptable, and as a nation, we must reject it. >> now that event took place in clinton, iowa, yesterday. just a few weeks ago, hillary clinton herself had an event in clinton, iowa at that same elementary school in that same room. and bernie sanders was able to turn out a comparable size of people. we'll have to wait and see if that translates into caucus support. sanders held a racial and prison reform forum during which he brought out two gentlemen who had been incarcerated before.
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he almost moderated that forum and let them share their stories of being in prison and re-entering into society. very many of the iowans there were very taken with the two men's story and how it connected with sanders' message. caucus support is what we're talking about. in past polls, clinton has been leading sanders often by double digits. tomorrow morning there will be a "des moines register" poll and that will be the key to seeing how senator sanders is able to chip away at some of thehillary the state. tomorrow morning look out for that poll. >> i also appreciate your categorization of bernie sanders being more fired up. i'd agree with that. so good call. here with more on 2016, eleanor clift and katie. with a good morning to you both, katie, i'm going to begin with you. you've been following cruz and
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his rise in iowa. cruz is ahead ten points in the latest des moines register poll. how did he do it? >> great to be with you. it's been a great weekend for ted cruz, as you all noted. he is rising in the polls nationally and also in iowa, a des moines register poll out yesterday showed him for now at least the clear front-runner in -- going into the iowa caucuses. about a month and a half out from that. ted cruz has for a while been sort of quietly trying to consolidate the conservative base. he's been making a lot of efforts to engage evangelicals. making a big push with tea party type conservatives. in the last couple of weeks we've seen that approach start to pay dividends. he's pulled in a number of high-profile endorsements in iowa. at the same time that effort to coalesce the conservative vote comes as cruz is also cutting into ben carson's base.
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as foreign policy has moved to the forefront in the republican presidential contest. ted cruz has been trying to play the commander in chief card. polls show it comes at the expense of some of ben carson's support. carson obviously his background is not in politics. and as terrorism has moved to that forefront we're seeing cruz gain a little bit of an edge there. >> what do you think it means for democratic candidates if cruz starts leading the pack of gop contenders? >> i don't know that it really alters any of the scenarios for the democratic candcandidates. it's been anticipated for some time that ted cruz was there to pick up the pieces should trump falte falter. it's been the center of his campaign strategy. with ben carson dropping in the polls, those voters appear to be going to ted cruz. the cruz campaign is benefitting from the fact that raphael cruz
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is an evangelical preacher. cruz is well positioned to do well in iowa. i think from the clinton campaign's perspective, they'll be eyeing what comes out of new hampshire and whether cruz can adamt himself to the mind-set of new hampshire voters that's he's not just a one-state wonder. he can show he has some broader appeal that can sell in places like new hampshire and states beyond. >> katie, relative to this recent "new york times"/cbs poll, 40% of all the voters say they are actually scared of what donald trump would do in office? how does this play out for other republican candidates? >> we've been talking about the rise of national security and terrorism as the forefront of voter's minds in the wake of the attacks in paris and san bernardino. we are starting to see more republican voters tune in to those questions of who is most prepared to be commander in
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chief? who has the most experience to handle the rigors of the white house? and so that is where you're seeing ted cruz make that argument. when we're looking at that head-to-head matchup with ben carson. more quietly and more broadly he's been raising those questions about experience, that judgment. and so should we start to see the trump numbers take a hit anywhere else, especially nationally, it may be coming in the wake of those terrorist attacks. and as voters turn to those questions. >> i'm curious about the story you wrote this week where you compared marco rubio to bill clinton. what do these two men have in common? >> i covered the clinton campaign in '93, and watched how he really transformed the democratic party from being losers to being competitive nationally by standing up to the most liberal wing of the party.
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and then in the white house after the democrats lost the congress, president clinton adapted to the new ruling hierarchy with something called triangulation which was appealing to everybody and kind of splitting the difference. i look at marco rubio and think he's got a more complicated dance to do because he's trying to appeal to many different wings in a splintered republican party. he's doing it by being on not all sides of every issue but showing some flexibility on immigration. now on abortion. he initially said he didn't favor any exceptions. now he said i'd sign a bill with some exceptions because i just want to save lives. he's trying to keep himself electable in a general election, and it reminds me of clinton. and like clinton, rubio is fast on his feet. and very fluent in his comments.
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now i think he's not as substantive as bill clinton was. so i don't know that i'm going to go on and find marco rubio to be one of the defining politicians of his generation the way bill clinton did. but certainly i can understand his strategy and i think he's still positioned to do well in this election cycle. >> it was an interesting article. eleanor clift and katie black, thank you. people from across france gathered in the nation's capital to mark the one-month anniversary of the attacks in paris. meanwhile in geneva, the swiss capital re mains on high alert amid new arrests on basis of terror. kelly cobiella is in london with more on this. these arrests are separate from the search for suspects with possible links to terror. is that right? >> yeah, that's right, alex. according to the swiss prosecutor handling the case, these two men were stopped by geneva police on friday because of this heightened alert level
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which was introduced on friday. they had syrian passports. the prosecutor said. he also said they did not speak french. had not been in the country very long and the car they were driving had traces of explosives. now the arrest papers state they are under investigation for making and transporting explosives and toxic gas. but when asked about this, the prosecutor today -- yesterday said there was no evidence of toxic gas in their car. they have denied wrongdoing. by the way, they are also accused of having links to a banned terrorist group in sweden. >> quickly as we mentioned, it's the one-month anniversary of the attacks in paris which also has its own manhunt still ongoing. what's the latest on that? >> well, still no sign of paris suspect salah abdeslam or muhammad abrini being sought by belgian authorities.
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he was seen with abdeslam two days before the attacks. in the meantime, searches continue in belgium and france. no recent arrests or significant developments that we're aware of there that authorities have talked about. and alex, in paris, it's now the one-month anniversary today. all but one of the places where people died, where those attacks happened, are still closed. covered in flowers. still memorial sites. there was an impromptu service at the bataclan theater today to mark that one-month anniversary, alex. customers are coming back to the one cafe which has reopened. the bonn pierre. the other cafes and managers promising to reopen but it's taking some time. >> can imagine for sure. thank you from london. kelly cobiella. one of the other top stories is the latest on the san bernardino terror investigation. the search of the lake has wrapped up but authorities are not saying what they were looking for, nor what they found. they are believed to be looking for electronics that may have
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an incident that's caused an uproar. the north carolina woman that posted a picture of her dog with its mouth taped shut will appear in court to face animal cruelty charges. animal lovers hope that woman will be forced to learn a lesson. kathryn has been in hot water ever since she posted this picture last month of her chocolate lab mix with its mouth muzzled with duct tape simply for barking. this is what happens when you don't shut up. >> the fact that anybody can do
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something like that and not -- i mean, obviously, not have any feelings or care anything about it is unconscionable. >> she also posted pictures of smile with her dog. don't panic, everyone. it was only for a minute but hasn't barked since. point made. dog lovers from every state in nearly a dozen countries were quick to express their anger on social media. she was charged with one count of misdemeanor of cruelty to animals and will appear before a judge on monday. and as disturbing as the case may be, legal experts say lemansky is unlikely to go to jail. >> unless she has other offenses that are going to add up that would make the judge want to give jailtime, she's probably just going to pay a fine. >> animal rights activists say the penalty should be more severe. >> if somebody doesn't have the self-control to be be able to be patient and understanding and to
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know that dogs bark, then you think, what on earth else is she going to do to punish that dog? >> that was nbc's sheinelle jones who also says the dog was never taken from the home. about tomorrow's court date it's an administrative court appearance so she'll not enter a plea. saturday's historic climate deal isn't even sign eed but so are slamming it as unattainable and illegal. the climate pact was approved about 24 hours ago right now. so tony, what are the critics taking issue with? >> so, yeah, the deal is in place, but now the political selling continues. it didn't take long for republicans to step forward and say this is based on president obama's clean power plan. 26 states have sued to block that plan. likely to go to the supreme court. republicans are saying it's illegal. it's an expansion of the
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environmental protection agency's power that goes outside the constitution. and they're not going to stop this fight. john kerry who spent three sleepless nights trying to get this climate pact into shape has already begun to bring the political fight back to america. let's listen to what he had to say on one of the sunday shows this morning. >> what members of congress think when leaders of major countries around the world are actually stepping up to do these things? these are not -- >> mr. secretary -- >> these guys aren't making up the science or the plans to do it. and i think -- i think, frankly, a lot of members of congress on the wrong side of history, and i don't believe you can be elected president of the united states if you don't understand climate change or aren't committed to this kind of a plan. >> so there it is. john kerry saying that these people cannot be president of the united states if they hold these views. they are on the wrong side of history when it comes to climate change. one of the most interesting
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elements of this global pact is there's a name and shame component. every five years, the countries of the world have to come forward and say here's all we've done when it comes to global warming. here are emission numbers, what's we promised and where we purpose if a republican administration comes in and pulls back or dials back president obama's pledges, they'll have to answer for that decision globally. the hope among advocates is that will be a naming and shaming pressure that will put the republicans in line with what scientists say is necessary. >> so can you walk me through what happens when the agreement hits capitol hill? >> nothing. that's part of the controversy here. there are several -- many republicans would like president obama to have to have this treaty ratified by congress. because of the wording in the document, it doesn't have to be. it became international law last night without the approval of congress, which is different from past agreements, the kyoto protocol in 1997.
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had to be ratified by congress. congress did not ratify it. and the debate last night which ran long here in paris, it revolved around a single word. they don't want it to say shall. we want it to say should. if it said shall then they would have had to put it up for a vote in congress and the delegation from america, they were certain that with republican control of both houses they wouldn't get it through. they went with should and it became international law. >> that is interesting little detail there. thank you, tony dodkoupal. today's nbc news/"wall street journal" poll removes all doubt that ted cruz is rising to second place trailing donald trump by five points. mr. trump himself is still gaining picking up four points to retake the lead from ben carson who plunged 18 percentage points since october's poll. corridors
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it certainly got a lot of hype but that mask mock shooting in austin, texas, attracted about 15 people. in fact, more people showed up in a counter protest and stuck around longer. the point of the event was to raise concerns about zones where guns are not permitted but the publicity raised alarm for those who felt it would be disrespectful to those who lost loved ones to mass shootings. chinese students are becoming a boon for cash-strapped colleges in the u.s. more than 300,000 chinese citizens studied in the united states last year, and almost all of them paid full tuition. by doing that those students pumped almost $10 billion into the u.s. economy through tuition and fees, and joining me now is peter o'dowd with npr's "here and now." welcome to you. this is absolutely fascinating. first question is why do these students want to come here? >> well, number one, it's good for their careers in the future. many of the students i spoke to said that with an american
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degree they will be better off when they have the chance to go back to their own country, back to china, and also it has a big -- a lot to do with the growing middle class in china. huge amount of wealth happening in china over the last couple years, double digit growth. we've seen that slow recently, but that doesn't seem to have slowed the appetite for chinese students coming to the united states. >> can you give me a sense of the details as to why u.s. colleges are turning to chinese students for revenue? in my intro i said they're paying full tuition but what's brought it to this point? >> i talked to the university of california-berkeley. if you look at what's happened at the uc system over the last couple of years, if you adjust for inflation, uc schools have lost more than $1 billion in state funding since 1999, and so schools like berkeley, for instance, see a huge opportunity to get these kids to come to the united states. the vast majority of them are not getting any scholarships whatsoever.
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some might get a merit-based scholarship, but there's no need to satisfy a need-based scholarship in these cases. so the colleges really see this opportunity to not only bring in more revenue, but they also say to change the global perspective and the diversity on campus. these kids from china are bringing different perspectives to the school that they might not otherwise have had. >> in terms of stats, as you know, ten years ago boston university received only 205 applications from chinese students. this year bu got nearly 6,200. anything behind a specific increase here at bu? >> i mean, the rise of these numbers are absolutely amazing, and it's because the universities are absolutely targeting china. they're going to china. boston university's case, i talked to an admissions president who said that she's going to china three times a year, and in many cases with large groups of american universities to go recruit these students. now, they'll go to american high schools -- chinese high schools, talk to the head masters of
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these international schools that are recruiting kids to come to the united states. they're making concerted efforts by traveling abroad and seeking these students out. >> okay. that's undergraduate but for the past few years, fewer chinese students have applied to u.s. graduate schools. so what's the difference here? >> graduate students from china really led the way several years ago. that was the first wave of chinese students coming to the united states, and this could be the first wave of the bubble bursting to an ex sent. now, it could be the fact that the chinese economy is starting to slow down, but it could also be the fact that the chinese government sees that it's losing a lot of its talent to the united states, and they have started investing billions and billions of dollars every year into higher education, research, building state of the art labs, and building lapse thbs that th united states may not be able to compete with. there is some thought chinese
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