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league with the leading republican candidate for president. this month alex jones hosted a lengthy live interview with donald trump, fawning mutual appreciation society interview in which alex jones told donald trump that about 90% of his listeners support trump for president. trump gushed to alex jones about his amazing reputation. especially all the stuff you've done on sandy hook about how it was all a giant hoax. that didn't come up, right? but that's where donald trump was. florida atlantic university finally today started to sever ties with the alex jones corner of the conspiracy theory right. the fringe in this case was too much for that one university in florida. it's not apparently too much, though, for the guy next in line to be the republican nominee for president. that does it for us tonight. we will see you again tomorrow. now it's time for "the last word request lawrence o'donnell." i. >> i'm sure alex jones and donald trump found complete agreement on president obama's birth. >> exactly. donald trump doesn't want to
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talk about the birth certificate anymore, but it was really his first foray into presidential politics. >> yeah, complete invention. thank you. well, why, why would vladimir putin want the most ignorant and gullible candidate running for president of the united states to win? why would he want that? and why is glenn beck saying he's not going to vote. >> donald trump seems to have a fan over in the kremlin. >> drew some praise from russian president vladimir putin. >> afraid of a guy riding around on a horse without his shirt. >> he was asked about the gop front-runner in moscow. >> he said he's a bright personality, a talented person. no doubt about it. >> we both got very good ratings the other night on "60 minutes." >> the admiration appears to be mutual. >> i think they're just very similar personalities. >> putin is a nicer person than i am.
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i think i would get along well with him. what's with the bromance? >> i will not vote for trump. i won't vote for hillary either. i will not vote. >> big deal. >> vladimir putin would like to be staring down as the next president of the united states, it should come as no surprise that putin wants his rival on the world stage to be the most ignorant president in history. >> it's an amazing statistic. the press is going to have to check it because what do i snow. >> here's what vladimir putin said about donald trump. >> translator: he is a very flamboyant man, very talented. no doubt about that. he's the absolute leader of the presidential race, as we see it today. >> donald trump once again proved his stunning ignorance of the world by saying, it was an
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honor -- that was his word -- an honor to be complimented by the imperialistic dictator of russia. he also called vladimir putin highly respected. those were trumps words, highly respected. needless to say, trump supporters in the media and elsewhere did not attack donald trump for calling vladimir putin highly respected, the way they would obviously attack any democrat or anyone else in politics for calling vladimir putin highly respected. now that putin has seen how easy it is, so easy, to trick donald trump into complimenting him, he must be all the more eager to start negotiating with such a simple mind over the removal of sanctions that president obama has imposed on russia. at the same time, trump was calling vladimir putin highly respected, he was calling glenn beck a dog.
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>> if they put donald trump in -- try to put him in office, if that's what the people want, you're going to see an end to the republican party. it will just be over. there will just be nothing left. >> after that, donald trump tweeted, glenn beck got fired like a dog by fox. the blaze is failing and he wanted to have me on his show. i said no because he was irrelevant. for the record, no one has ever fired a dog. and secondly, all business reports indicate that glenn beck's media empire e, including "the blaze" are making him way, way richer than anyone who has ever worked at fox news. today glenn beck said this. >> i won't vote for trump. if it's hillary/trump, i will not vote for trump. i will not vote for hullry either. i will not vote. i stopped putting my name on people i don't believe in. i don't understand how people could say and stand in those small government constitutional tea parties and then say, i'm
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for this guy. the only reason why they're doing it is because they're angry. what we need is somebody to articulate the american dream. have you heard donald trump articulate the american dream 1234 have you heard him teach people about the american constitution? >> i don't think he's ever mentioned the constitution. >> have you heard him articulate and be able to actually make a case for who we are as a people? >> joining us now, david corn, washington bureau chief for mother jones and an msnbc political analyst. also with is, josh bare row, correspondent for "the new york times" and msnbc contributor and matt lewis, contributor for the daily column. why would vladimir putin want donald trump to be the next president of the united states? >> you know, this would be really entertaining if it was just a netflix series, but it
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may well be one day. i'm sure trump is selling the rights. but for trump, not to quite recognize that being complimented by putin is not actually a compliment. it's pretty stunning for the guy who wrote the best business book ever called "the art of the deal." have you heard of it, lawrence? it was just a couple of nights ago he didn't know what the nuclear triad was, which must have been great news to putin. he says yeah, i want somebody in charge of the nuclear arsenal of the u.s. who doesn't really understand it. that will probably help us somehow. it is gobsmacking, both sides. but you've got to believe that putin is a little more wiley at this than donald trump. but yet, trump is the greatest, he's the smartest, the most intelligent person who has ever run for president. >> matt lewis, donald trump now has maybe 35% support or so among republican voters and voters leaning republican.
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does that mean that today those 35% became converts to that world in which vladimir putin is highly respected? do they now think that vladimir putin is highly respected? >> it's weird. this is actually something that's been -- this is something that's been around for a while. there's a strain of this sort of paleo conservative movement that likes putin, that thinks that he's tough, that he's trying to restore christianity in the western world and that we should be allied with him against radical islam. pat buchanan a few years ago wrote a column pretty much to that effect. look, i'm old enough to remember the soviet union, and i know that putin was a kgb agent, and the invasion of ukraine and all of that. he's an authoritarian. he reminds a lot of donald trump actually. i would say, though, in fairness, it is nice to hear --
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it was almost diplomatic. it was nice to hear a leader of another country say something nice about an american politician. so there was something nice about that. >> oh, okay. >> donald trump? >> you know, you said there's some fans of vladimir putin out there. donald trump is one of them, and he has been a fan of vladimir putin before this. let's listen to trump. >> i would get along with putin. i've dealt with russia. i think i would get along with him fine. i think in terms of leadership, he's getten an a and our president is not doing so well. they did not look good together. >> he does not like obama at all. he didn't respect obama at all. and i'm sure that obama doesn't like him very much. but i think that i would probably get along with him very well and i don't think we would be having the kind of problems we're having right now. >> so there's front-runner for the republican presidential nomination giving vladimir putin an "a" for invading ukraine and
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an "a" for propping up the assad regime is and an "a" for all sorts of other things that vladimir putin is doing around the world. >> this is a troep that's not limited to donald trump. you hear from a lot of republicans how basically obama is weak and his weakness is perceived by foreign leaders and if we just had a strong guy in there, then we would be able to deal with putin man-to-man and he wouldn't give us so much trouble anymore. i think that's one of the things he's reflecting. but another is a really substantive policy disagreement, not just with the obama administration, but much of the republican field about our sfwress and russia's interests throughout much of the rest of the world. we hate isis, russia hates isis, why not let russia go in, meddle in syria so we don't have to do it. donald trump says that iks police sitly. there's something of that in what ted cruz is saying, too. he wouldn't put it quite that way, but cruz basically says this isn't our fight, let's let other people deal with this. so i think it reflects a real substantive thing where he thinks that something russia is
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doing in the middle east is more aligns with u.s. interest than people in the establishment on either the republican or the democratic sides believe. >> now it seems like donald trump is the biggest republican fan of vladimir putin since the last republican president. let's listen to george w. bush and see if this sounds a little bit like what we've been hearing from donald trump. >> i looked the man in the eye. i found him to be very straightforward and trustworthy. we had a very good dialogue. i was able to get a sense of his soul. he's a man deeply committed to his country and the best interests of his country. >> david corn, so this could be a little trip back to that era. >> i don't know if it's going back to the future or ahead with ignorance, but, you know, i think gosh, my pal josh here, gives trump perhaps a little too much credit. i don't know if there's a lot of policy analysis that's
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underlying his comments about putin. i get the sense it that it's like, we're all just big dogs living in one giant global green room and i like him, he likes me, we're both winners. and that's the way he sees this. because at the same moment that he can praise putin, he's out there saying the iran deal is the worst deal that ever happened. well, that was a deal that was cut with russia, you know, working with the united states and other nations, too. so i think it's very much a jumble inside, or underneath that orange glow of donald trump's. basically he's probably reacting to the personality type and seeing putin in the way that he looks in a mirror, another strong man that he thinks he is. >> let's listen to what john mccain said about this today. >> putin mentioned donald trump. he said he welcomes -- donald trump wants better relations with russia and we welcome that. >> that's a match made in heaven.
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>> a match made in heaven, putin and trump, you mean? >> absolutely. i can hardly wait. >> josh, no one can keep a straight face when this subject comes up. >> yeah. as you pointed out, it's something that no other politician in this country could get away with. and i think people are at a loss. john mccain could get all outraged and express his outrage, but that doesn't work. people are left with nothing to do but shake their heads and laugh. but i think, you know, john mccain, like a lot of people in the republican establishment, they've been toying with the idea if they just watch this happen for a while, donald trump has to implode sooner or later. ted cruz is just waiting, waiting to pick up donald trump's supporter whence they finally grow tired of him. i think we've walked past the point where it becomes clear that something should be fatal, talking about how wonderful vladimir putin is will ever actually do donald trump in. >> matt lewis, glenn beck seems to be doing what a lot of trump supporters are not doing, and that is listening carefully to
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the things that sound like policy. coming out of donald trump. and glenn beck is hearing way too many, what he calls progressive policies coming out of the donald trump. and so he doesn't think he's a conservative. he doesn't think he's a legitimate republican. he will not vote if that's who's on the top of the republican ticket. is that -- is there a time in this calendar where what donald trump has actually said about policy, and sometimes continues to say about policy will actually start to separate him from his supporters? >> i don't know about that, but look, i will say it's fascinating that glenn beck is now the voice of reason. a couple of years ago, you might not have anticipated this. but i think glenn beck is actually exactly right. i have to say, i could not in good conscious support either donald trump or hillary clinton. and i suspect that i'm not alone. and i would urge that if donald trump is the nominee of the
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republican party, it could be the end of the republican party as we know it. it would be an existential crisis for the conservative movement. i would hope somebody like a marco rubio or somebody else would run as a third party candidate if that is feasible stood to provide an alternative. because again, if glenn beck is seeing through this guy, that he's not a conservative, and that he's gone too far for glenn beck, i think that says something about how far donald trump and we have all gone. >> well, matt, you might just have to spend election day with glenn beck not voting somewhere. >> i might sleep in. i might sleep in that day. >> but matt, but matt, would you really -- if the choice is who's going to control the government, i know how much you hate democrats and liberals and hillary clinton. but you have to admit she's at least sane. if the choice is a sane person and a not sane person, don't you
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have an obligation to participate in that decision? >> to be honest with you, i could not in good conscious do it because the supreme court picks because -- let's just take the issue of abortion. i am strongly pro life. i could not in good conscious vote for somebody who is pro choice and support them. but i also can't see myself voting for donald trump either. >> matt, the good news for you, in all the states that i've voted in, really when you look at the presidential ballot, there's always like 15, 17 names on it. it's not just third parties. it's 15th parties. >> isn't there's a dees nuts running? >> there's a lot of other choices you could make if you need to. thank you both very much for joining me tonight. coming up, paul ryan, facing his first big test. and i mean a big test as speaker of the house tomorrow. and we have an msnbc exclusive report, an update on the state investigation about the death of a man in virginia who was tased
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the house and harry reid is still running the senate. what is .haing here is worse than betrayal. betrayal is pretty bad, but it's worse than that. elect democrats, disbaned the republican party, let the democrats run it because that's what's happening anyway. >> he's telling the republicans in the house to paz the budget bill which would fund the bill through september 2016, but neither side is expressing confidence about votes. >> are you confident that you can provide the votes necessary to get this over the finish line? >> no. it's up to them. they had the majority. they had the majority. they had the legislation. we have some serious objections which we have made known so we'll see. >> joining us now, former congressman tom davis, republican from virginia. tom davis, can you explain to
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rush limbaugh what's going on in this budget deal and why paul ryan had to reach a deal with nancy pelosi? >> sure, they've got to keep the government open at this point. they've lifted the ban on exporting oil, which nab effect for 35 years. this is very important to oil-producing states and a lot of republicans. epa funding is at the lowest since 1989. nay changed the visa program. this is a compromise across the way. a lot of democrats are unhappy with this. but i think paul is going to deliver the votes tomorrow. >> why couldn't paul ryan do this with republican votes? >> because i think of people like rush limbaugh that are stirring up the party base, the stuff that goes around on the internet. the misinformation that goes on this.
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this is a compromise. the republicans don't run the all of government. but there's irresistible parts of this, the crude oil export ban will be lifted, that are just death if republicans were to vote against this. so they've loaded this up with some things that republicans can't resist. here's donald trump's statement about this bill. he's finally getting involved in congressional action now. he issued a written statement. someone obviously wrote this for him. anyone needed more evidence of why the american people are suffering at the hands of their own government, look no further than the budget announced by paul ryan. the elected republicans of congress threw in the towel and showed absolutely no budget discipline. david corn, i think tom davis will back me up'm reading this,
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trump limbaugh side of the party believes that president obama would not veto a budget coming from a republican congress that he disagreed with. >> it also has to get through the senate where you can hold up some of this, too. so they need something that can pass the senate and get signed. what you're seeing now, america, is what used to happen. government working. and everybody being upset and disappointed at the end result. because you don't get exactly what you want. the tea party position the last few years has been if we can't blow it up, we don't want it. we don't want to cut a deal with the president. so they had to give up going after planned parenthood and stopping syrian refugees. the tax bill has some great progressive stuff in it from middle and low income americans. but also has some things that actually do -- that the republicans wanted that will blow up deficits. so the republicans like to bash democrats in deficits but they're not abiding by their own discipline on a lot of this,
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because they would rather have the tax cuts than the deficit savings. so it's kind of a jumble, it's a mess. this is a compromise. this decision was made a couple of months ago under boehner to not have another government shutdown. and he said the overarching numbers and now they'll filling in the details beneath it and this is how we want things to happen if we have divided government. >> and tom davis, rush limbaugh wouldn't mind a government shut dounl. he would be happy to see the republicans force that. and it seems like -- you told me, you know how it works inside that caucus. but it seems like there are people who still believe that if somehow they got a fully republican endorsed budget through the house and through the senate, it went to the white house and the president vetoed it, i assume there are republican members who firmly believe if that happened, the president would be entirely blamed by the public for the resulting government shutdown. >> well, i mean, that may be the narrative, but as david pointed out, you need 60 votes in the senate to get this through the senate. and these numbers are set two
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months ago before speaker boehner was elected. the numbers are determined. this is just filling in the blanks. you may not like the number at the end of the day, but you're not going to change that. what you have are business models other there on the right to stir this up. and some members react to that. but i think you're going to find that paul ryan has a lot of cache with members at this point and they're going to be able to pass it tomorrow over some of the objections of the commentators. >> it will be interesting to see just how many votes ryan can corral for this. it will be a real measure of his standing as a republican leader at this point. nancy pelosi will get as many votes as she thinks she needs to do what she wants. that's always been the case for the last few years. >> thank you both. really appreciate it. up next, president obama will go to san bernadino tomorrow. that's the day after the former neighbor of the san bernadino
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i want to repeat what my team just told me. at this moment, our intelligence and counterterrorism professionals do not have any specific and credible information about an attack on the homeland. >> that's the president giving his second speech on terrorism this week after a briefing at the national counterterrorism center today. president obama said this about the threat posed to the united
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states about so-called lone actors. >> we are in a new phase of terrorism. including lone actors and small groups of terrorists. like those in san bernadino. because they are smaller, often self-initiating, self-motivating, they're harder to detect. and that makes it harder to prevent. but just as the threat evolves, so do we. we're constantly adapting, constantly approving, upping our game, getting better. >> joining us now is errol suters, a professor at usc where he teaches about home grown violent extremism. professors to what the president just said, upping our game, as he put it, against these home grown lone actor terrorist, what more tools do we have to up our game? >> well, lawrence, what we have now is a national terrorism advisory system that's going to
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give us information based on intel that we get from our centers around the country that can help us connect the dots better, inform the public faster and hopefully thwart these plots. we can connect further with the community in terms of gathering information and preventing things from happening. >> there's a new gallup poll on this, fear of being killed in mas shooting or isis terrorism. 47% fear a isis inspired terrorism. the statistics on this are just stunningingly different. it's so much more likely for an american to be shot in a movie theet the theatre by one of these classic american wild shootings that
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predate any form of isis or al qaeda terrorism in the united states that have been going on forever, apparently will continue to go on. the fears of those two things are wild ly dis proportiopropor what the actual likelihood is. >> they are disproportionate because the public tends to have an outweighed understanding of risk. and so as we have continued focus on events like isis-inspired attacks. and ongoing conversations that are almost endless about isis-inspired attacks, they tend to trend upward when people think about the risk that's happening. that's why you see the numbers skewed this way in the polls that are taken. you're right, after 9/11, many people chose not to fly. they chose to drive. when flying is safer than driving. and so it's the focus by the media and it's the focused on the continued conversations that tend to have these polls result
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the way they do. >> 457 killed in mass shootings. 19 killed in violent jihadist attacks. and that 19 is the single biggest number since 9/1 1. 14 of those in that one event in san bernadino. a typical year is single digits or low single digits, which i don't mean to suggest in any way should give people reason to take thisless seriously. the three deaths of the tsarnaev brothers, the marathon in boston that they achieved in one explosion are something we should be fighting to stop. but is there a way, professor, that you think the public rhetoric on this can actually of bring in a perspective on how statistically small the risk is? >> there is a way to do this. and i think we have to have a more mature perspective of terrorism in america. you cited some statistics here
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with regard to other incidents that may occur. the uk does this quite well, and i hope we're getting to that with regards to letting people know, we will not thwart every plot, we will not stop every a i tack, but we can prevent certain things with your participation. and so we're getting better at what we're doing. >> professor, thank you very much for joining us tonight. up next, a friend of the san bernadino attackers is arrested on terrorism charges. here at the td ameritrade trader group, they work all the time.
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>> today, federal prosecutors filed criminal charge against a friend and former neighbor of sam bernadino shooter syed farook. pete williams has the latest. >> lawrence, these are the first charges to step from the san bernadino shootings. but the man charged today, enrique marquez is not accused of knowing anything about that shooting in advance, even though the prosecutors say he knew that syed farook, one of the people who fired the shots in san bernadino, had been talking about terrorism for years. two weeks ago after the shooting attack that left 14 people dead and injured 22, federal prosecutors file charge against 24-year-old enrique marquez, the
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friend and former next door neighbor of one of the attackers, syed farook. prosecutors say in late 2011, the two men plotted to attack riverside community college where both had been students with pipe bombs and guns. the fbi said they also talked about throwing pipe bombs to stop trsk on a crowded section of a state during rush hour, then to shoot at people stuck in their cars. marquez is also charged with violating firearm laws when he bought the two assault rifles in 2011 and 2012 that ended up being used in the san bernadino shooting. under federal law it's illegal to buy a gun knowing the purchase is being made for someone else. the form warns you can not buy a firearm for another person. marquez and farook continued to plan for terror attacks by going to firing range, but that the two stopped plotting together in late 2012 after some unrelated terror arrests in southern california. and there's nothing in today's charges to indicate that marquez
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knew about the plan of the shooting in san bernadino earlier this month. he's also accused of defrauding the government with a sham married. he's married to a ukrainian woman whose sister is married to marquez. fbi agents questioned marquez for at least a week. they say he answered questions voluntarily and did not request a lawyer. president obama was briefed on the national threat picture today at the counterterrorism center and said there are no known threats of attacks. he urged people to get on with the holidays. >> we cannot give in to fear or change how we live our lives. because that's what terrorists want. that's the only leverage that they have. >> earlier this week, the bodies of syed farook and his wife tafsen malik were buried at an undisclosed cemetery miles from san bernadino. it's clear from these charges that the fbi believes farook was originally influenced by al qaeda. there's very little reference in
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these charges to isis. the fbi believes that he in turn radicalized his friend and neighbor enrique marquez. marquez was arrested this afternoon and made his first appearance in federal court late today. it was a brief hearing. there was no plea at this stage. but the prosecutors are asking he be held in jail pending a trial and the judge set a hearing on that issue for monday. lawrence? >> pete williams, thank you. president obama is scheduled to go to san bernadino tomorrow. up next, an nbc exclusive report about video of police tasing a suspect who then died. is getting relief. only nicorette mini has a patented fast-dissolving formula. it starts to relieve sudden cravings fast. i never know when i'll need relief. that's why i only choose nicorette mini. come on, wake up!!! come on,why ya sleepin'? come on! what time is it? it's go time. come on. let's go, let's go, let's go. woooo hoooo!! yeah!! i feel like i went to bed an hour ago. yeah!!
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exclusive report. >> reporter: when video first surfaced last month of police repeatedly tazing a man at the entry of virginia hospital, little was known about the 2013 incident. police said they planned to take linwood lambert inside for mental care, but after he broke their squad car window, they tased him repeatedly while he was cuffed and took him to jail where he died in custody. prosecutors are reviewing an investigation to decide whether to charge the officers. but new records from that inquiry and handwritten police statements obtained exclusively by msnbc show police made claims contradicted by the video. one of the three officers, corporal tiffany bratton seen here outside of her car told investigators her 15 taser discharges were necessary because lambert grabbed the end of the taser pulling it several times. but the video does not show that ever happening.
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lambert's hands were cuffed behind his back the whole time. bratton also told investigators lambert got back up four times after four separate tasings. but the video shows he never got himself up. that police statement is potentially critical, says former federal prosecutor kendall coffey. >> an officer credibly stated that a suspect was trying to get the taser several time, then that would certainly justify elevating the force used by the officer. >> reporter: but since that activity is not shown on the video, prosecutors could also focus on whether the officer was deliberately misleading? >> in virginia it's a class 1 misdemeanor. it carries up to 12 months in jail for any person to knowingly and willfully make a materially false statement to any law enforcement officer investigating the commission of a crime. >> whether prosecutors charge police for false statements or use of force remains to be seen. 2 1/2 years after the incident,
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the case is still open. >> joining us now, ari melbur. did they go by written reports or interviews? what was the most important evidence they've used in the investigations? >> we obtained the entire state investigation file and we found they almost completely ignore the video and take those statements which are contributed by them and leave them and that's what they presented to prosecutors. and lawrence, having gotten this information, i called these prosecutors involved here. i have new statements from them as well. they usually do not comment on these cases, as you and many of your viewers know, but given that we obtained the entire file, mark herring said they're going to be looking at that for a reason to destied whether
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south boston folks lied to state police. the state police investigation left questions unanswered, questions that would not have been contemplated by the state police investigator and she didn't fully develop until she talked to colleagues. these are prosecutors who are suggesting the state investigation was essentially lacking. >> and they seem to be saying -- i mean, if you read between the lines of this thing, if this video never became, this case would be over as a possible criminal investigative matter. that is the complete supposition and implication of the investigative file which we obtained. we're going to focus it. this race remains open. it's not a who done it. if you want to charge or clear the people involved in the incident 2 1/2 years is a long time to remain open. in that investigative file, the
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summary from the state investigators basically repeat a lot of those statements and reiterates things that we know to be untrue based on the video. it would be a big deal if this individual, linwood lambert, if he did grab an officer's weapon. we all know that that is something that could justify force. but as we report, that is not on the video. indeed his hands were shackled behind his back the entire time. and later, his feet were shackled when he was put back in the car. so we're seeing that something sometimes people are concerned may be a pattern. not only the police statements, but the next layer of investigative restrew doesnview actually cross-examination what happened and doesn't use the video. >> this is all about the power of video. there are no eyewitnesses to what we're seeing there, other than the police officers who have a story that coordinates and is not what the video shows. >> that's right.
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and the other person involved, linwood lambert there, died that night. the cause of death listed on his official autopsy was acute cocaine intoxication. but our reporting shows the coroner didn't know about the frequency of tasings, only knew that some occur pd it's an open question for the criminal inquiry over what may have caused the death, if it was not only cocaine. was the 20 discharges, not all of which reached him, but many did, were those the kind of things that could have been precipitating factors? but again, what we have learned now, and tonight is the first time we're releasing this, is that the state investigation that took five months and turned it over to the prosecutor doesn't deal with the video at all. it doesn't do that investigation. it basically says here's the police officers' defense, which they have every right to offer. it says here's their defense, don't look at the video, end of story, as far as the state police investigation was concerned. >> this is the classive old fashioned contours of cover-up before video came into these kinds of cases. ari melbur, really appreciate it.
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the wealth in the places i go to in malawi. shoes. k in most of the village is visit, most of the kids don't have shoe pchs shoes are the big indicator there, not iphones. none of the kids have phones. and many of them have never seen phones. rich is relative, right? there are a lot of people who are a lot richer than donald trump, like big gates and warren buffett. we're all a bit richer than someone. if you want to see how much richer you are than people in malawi, just look down at your shoes. or your kids' shoes or anything else that you take for granted. including food. >> i didn't mention why i was in malawi, which was to deliver testings like this one for kich k.i.n.d., kids in need for desks to provide desks if for kids who
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never had desks. i didn't say how you could contribute by going to lastword.msnbc.com. did you get that? but i got a handwritten letter at home saying lawrence, your comments on africa and shoes just killed me. and enclosed in this envelope was a check. it's signed, but it wasn't made out to anyone. it was from my friend the legendary new york columnist liz smith. she said, i should make out the check in some way that i thought would help those kids. the envelope that liz sent me had a paul newman stamp on it. now, you have to be of a certain age to know people on postage stamps. and liz smith is going smotrongt 92 and she knew paul newman who
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devoted most of his nonacting time to raising money to worthy causes. liz smith has also been a great supporter of worthy causes throughout her life. and she's been contributing to the k.i.n.d. fund since we started five years ago. and what i love about this check, what i love about it is that i didn't ask for it. i was just telling a story about where i had been the week before and why i was having a little bit of trouble feeling completely present in the show that night. and liz saw a need in that story i was telling and wanted to help. the kids in that story reached through the screen and grabbed her heart. and so the first official contribution to the k.i.n.d. fund this season came from liz smith without me even asking for it. and in return, i am sending a christmas gift to list. i'm contributing a full classroom of desks in liz
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smith's name and unicef will send her an acknowledgment of that gift. you can do that with anyone on your christmas list. you can give a desk in their name. i'm also giving a full scholarship for a girl to finish high school in malawi, which is one of the giving options you will see when you go to last word desks.msnbc.com. i'm giving that in liz's name. the girl's graduation rate in malawi is much lower than the boys and girls education needs special support there. there are girls who are in high school now in malawi who know that they wouldn't be there without your help. we have a long way to go to keep all girls in high school in malawi, and a very long way to go to get desks in every school. but in the coming school year, there will be many more desks in those classrooms and more girls in those classrooms, thanks
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entirely to you, the shoers of this program who see a need and want to help. and tonight on "all in" -- >> i oppose legalization for illegal aliens. i always have, and i always will. >> ted cruz under fire. accused of flip-flopping on immigration. then the ceo who jacked up the price of an aids drug by 5,000%. >> for us to try to exist and make any profit i think is pretty reasonable.

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