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putin is quasi supporting him. >> and howard stern re-signed. >> this weekend is going to be a huge weekend. jonathan capehart hosting "up." i will be up and watching. stick around. >> good morning. i'm h i'm jose diaz-balart. hillary clinton faces off against bernie sanders and martin o'malley. at the same time, sanders is
dealing with a distraction. they have suspended his access to the voter base after one of his staffers accessed private information collected by the clinton campaign. donald trump is once again taking up the bulk of the political oxygen. he called in to "morning joe" earlier this morning. steve kornacki is here with more on that. steve, good morning. what did trump have to say? >> good morning, jose. it's become a new campaign tradition, i guess. donald trump has started the candidate calling into the shows, having these extended conversations. so he was on for about 20 minutes, a wide ranging conversation. he touched on among other things, those nice words that vladimir putin had to say about him the other day. he was pressed by mika of temporarily banning muslims and she challenged him for a positive message. >> is there a positive message
that you have for peaceful muslim americans? >> yeah, it's a positive message, mika, but we have a problem and the problem is a very severe problem. and they have to help us to solve this problem and they have to help themselves because they are actually helping themselves. but we do have a problem with radicalization within that community. and they have to report it, they have to let us know about it and if they don't, it's just going to be a continuation. >> now this comes with a new poll out in that crucial first in the nation state of new hampshire. this is from the "boston herald" in franklin pierce college. donald trump comfortably in the lead. look at the fourth, fifth place candidates, rubio, christie, bush, what do they have in common? generally considered candidates of the establish. rubio looking for a breakout
win, krchristie has the endorsement of the biggest newspaper in the state and bush still has some support. if those votes could all coalesce behind one of those candidates, it might be enough to give trump a run in new hampshire but because it's spread out among three rye now, it allowing trump to be in front by a very wide margin. >> let's put that poll up again. take a look at who is all the way at the bottom of that poll, down 11 points, ben carson with 5%. look at the drop. 11 points. >> yeah. and this is, you know, the latest chapter in the decline of ben carson. hard to believe a month ago we were talking about carson taking the lead in iowa. his support has been cut at least in half. he was starting to challenge trump for the lead. new hampshire was probably never
going to be the best state for ben carson. he relies so much on evangelical support in new hampshire, one of the most secular states in the nation. this has been a brutal and i mean brutal month for ben carson. not a good headline for bernie sanders heading into this crucial third debate. there is a report first broken by "the washington post" this morning that bernie sanders' campaign got access to proprietary information, voter information, collected by the hillary clinton campaign. it was not supposed to have access to this. what happens is the democratic national committee has this master list of democratic voters. all the democratic campaigns get access to it but there's supposed to to be a fire wall between those campaigns so they can add information on their own as they go out and get it from volunteers and their own research. that fire wall broke down at some point and somebody on the
sanders campaign, at least one person on the sanders come paam decided to start searching around through that information. now that one person at least from the sanders campaign has been fired over this and the democratic national committee said it is suspending access to that voter file. that is crucial. bernie sanders relies so much on grass roots mobilization, that database has all that information. it's like the holy grail for these campaigns and now at least for the short-term future, the sanders campaign will not have access to it. >> steve kornacki, thank you for being with us today. >> and now we have some opening data on donald trump. >> good morning, jose. we are tracking the interest on trump that spans the entire country. i know that pollsters want to remind us that polls don't
matter this early on. take a look at people's interest on google before the debate. the country looks fairly normal there. donald trump is the red search key temperature look at the november 1st key. it's like the entire thing went red. it's an indication that people on especially social media, on digital platforms are becoming fairly obsessed with the man, which i'm sure he would absolutely love. take a look at what people are searching for individually when they search for trump. the top search is his net worth. number two will make trump very happy, donald trump president, number three is twitter, and number four, mac miller, he's a rap artist. there's been a feud going on between them for about four years. it's a look at how popular trump has become online.
>> cal perry, thank you very much. >> we're going to get you up to speed on other news. a bail hearing is set for monday for the person accused of buying the weapons used in the san bernardino attack. enrique marquez was a friend and neighbor of syed farook. marquez is not being charged with connection in that attack but for two earlier plots in 2011 and 2012. joining me is justice correspondent pete williams. what will happen at these court appearances? >> not much. the initial appearances are very brief. there's only one mention of isis. the question has been who radicalized whom? did tashfeen malik come oaf and
radicalize farook? as early as 2010 farook was trying to talk about terrorism. the fbi's contention is that syed farook converted to islam. in 2013 enrique marquez backed away. when he bought the rifles, he bought them with the possibility of conducting terror attacks in mind as well as the components for all the pipe bombs found in the couple's possession after the shooting. but according to the fbi, there was a terrorism arrest in an unrelated case in 2012, they got cold feet and then according to the fbi, marquez was very upset when the shooting happened because he thought, well, this is my friend who did it with the
guns that i bought. >> pete williams, thank you very much. good seeing you this morning. big news from the vatican this morning, mother teresa is one step closer to sainthood after pope francis cleared the way further this week. bill neely joins us. >> we're not talking anything she did in life here. convincing the pope that the curing of a brazilian man who had multiple brain tumors, he was down to the prayers offered by his wife and others to mother teresa. now, a body called the congregation for the causes of saint was convinced she was indeed responsible and pope francis yesterday on his 79th birthday agreed and that clears the way for her to become a saint. but you know, she's always been near the top of the vatican
list. in life she received the highest honors like the nobel peace prize. she was known as the saint of the gutters for her work in the slums of calcutta. eventually their group grew to a network of thousands of nuns. it was that work that won the admiration of princess dinaann princess diana. it was a pretty controversial decision because an indian woman claimed that a locket with mother teresa's picture actually cured her of cancer.
no question this will delight tens of millions around the world who revere her. she was of course born into extreme poverty, extraordinary life story. she wasn't without her critics, though. life, who disliked her -- and her beliefs on abortion and contraception pretty hardline. she was called the most admired woman in the world. president reagan awarded her the medal of honor and this will probably happen next september. >> we're just getting started on this friday morning. what are some of the president's biggest challenges going into his final year in office?
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we are just hours from president obama holding his traditional year end news conference before departing the white house for the holidays in hawaii. the news conference is scheduled for 1:50 p.m. eastern time. after that he will stop in san bernardino to meet with families of the victims of the terror attack. let me bring on most of mtp daily chuck todd. how you doing, buddy? >> how you doing? >> the president is going to
have a new conference. what are you expecting? >> a little bit of a 2015 victory lap. we got a little preview of that yesterday from the white house press secretary where they are laying the claim that, hey, a lot of people thought 2015 after the republicans swept the elections in 2014, one controlled the senate, that it would expedite lame duck status for president obama. he's going to say, look, for a lame duck, i got a lot done. you look at cuba, you look at different things. i would argue for the first ten and a half months, they're right. they had a pretty good 2015 considering what we all thought it was going to be. since paris, the handling of it, that he is now admitting he could have handled it better, we see the public is souring on him a little bit.
he had the lowest rating in our job poll in over a year and it's something he's acknowledging. number one, this president is still very relevant. number two, i don't know if you can count on -- if you're hillary clinton or the republicans, if you can could t couldn't -- count on him being a lame duck in 2016. i don't think he plans on taking a back seat. >> when i spoke to him on camera, he said if they think i'm going to sit back and relax -- and he's showing it. until paris, he was accomplishing more in that time period than most presidents have done in their second term lame duck period. >> some of these things are temporary. some of these actions can easily
be rolled back but another president. he was clearly thwarting republicans to have an impact. so he was having some success. >> that's right. he found ways to go around congress, which is what they said they were going to do and they've figured that out pretty well. but the question is as appropriate goes front and center, how can he get back in front of that and sort of retake his commander in chief role. >> everything changed after paris. what are the biggest challenges you think he has in his final year in office? >> it's going to be interesting. the state of the union is much earlier than it's ever been before for a president. it's going to be january 12th. part of that has to be because if you let it go to the more traditional time, sort of the last wook eek of january, he re is butting up against the
campaign process in iowa and new hampshire. he wants to go early because i think he wants to set out a somewhat aspirational challenge to the country. that's not what this is going to be about. i think what you're going to see is more of the president doubling down and how they think 2015 went for them. and maybe even trying to go a little bit bolder, it's going to spark i think an intense reaction on the right. it's probably going to create an intense reaction in the presidential campaign, which may be exactly what the white house wants. it all about making sure they're relevant in this political debate. >> chuck, who do we have on "meet the press" on sunday? >> we're going to be talking to a man he's going to have to be his dance partner, paul ryan. i can tell you if boehner had
cut this deal, they'd be talking about going home for christmas. somehow paul ryan has been able to keep the pitch forks at bay. >> chuck todd, i can't wait to see you -- oh, that's right. i'm going to be on your show. that's a treat and an honor. >> don't forget. you better get down here or up here. >> yeah, because then we're doing telemundo. >> by mid year i'll have my spanish good enough where i can be on. >> and the richest terrorist group in history. richard engel will join me with a look at the staggering amounts of money isis pulls in and what's being done to choke off all that deniro.
asking is how can isis be stopped? the answer could be follow the money. richard engel has more. >> reporter: it's a wave of terror fueled by cash isis raises and spends billions but a rare moment of international consensus. >> the draft resolution has been adopted unanimously. >> the u.n. security council agreed to cooperate on tracking isis money and punishing those who profit from it. critically the resolution was sponsored by both the united states and russia, long at odds over syria. perhaps now getting closer to joining forces to stop isis. president putin said he's open to more cooperation. isis remains the richest terrorist group in history, pulling in an estimated $480 million a year, selling black market oil mostly to syrians who have no other source. $100 million from stolen
antiquities and $600 million in taxes imposed on those unfortunate enough to live under isis occupation. in total $1.2 billion of annual income plus about $2 billion in reserves. but money could be isis's achilles heel. >> it cannot go to war and cannot finance aboard. >> isis thinks of itself as a state with 7 million people and an army with about 80,000 fighters. if the world can put a squeeze on that flow of cash, that army might start to shrink. >> that was richard engel reporting. representatives across europe and the middle east will gather in new york to talk about syria. john kerry will discuss how to end the civil war. the refugee crisis and the fight
against isis. >> the chicago police officer indicted in the shooting death of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald will appear in court today. jason van dyke expected to plead not guilty to six counts of first degree murder and one count of official misconduct. the case caused outrage after dash cam video showed him being shot 16 times. and lebron james plowed right into the front row going after a loose ball at the cavs game. and ellie day was taken out on a stretcher. le bronx tweeted, ellie day, i hope you're doing okay. my apologies. hope you guys come back to another game soon. >> we're tracking winter weather
with storms expected to impact the west. the coldest air of the season could bring up to two feet of snow in parts. coming up, it's rubio versus cruz. both accuse the other of flip-flopping on policy. which each candidate is now saying. you're now hearing about the surge of unaccompanied minors at the borders. now double the levels. we'll break down those number for you here on msnbc. don't just eat. mangia! bertolli. trust number one doctor recommended dulcolax constipated?
punishment that could hind aer field organizing and campaigning efforts. >> on wednesday we were notified by our vendor, which administers our voter file system when they uploaded a software patch, it inadvertently allowed campaigns on the system to allow some of the data from the others. for a brief window, one of the campaigns inappropriately accessed data from another. as soon as we were notified, we instructed the vendor to, a, be able to determine exactly what happened and who accessed and what may have been done with any of the data? and then at the same time to make sure that the system's integrity is restored and when we found out that one of the campaigns had inappropriately accessed some of the information, we are going
through a process in which they're going to provide a full accounting so we can restore their access to the voter file. >> explain to regular folks like me that don't know exactly what that means technology-wise. the dnc gets information. >> this has provided a a data edge which has made it possible for us to reach out and engage with voters in an unprecedented way. for us protecting the data and securing the integrity of the system is very important. that's why we're taking the steps to make sure we know exactly what happened, that the system is functioning, that our campaigns are able to get back to engaging with voters and talking about the issues that matter. i'm sitting here in manchester, new hampshire where we're going to have the next debate on abc
news tomorrow night and the candidates are going to be talking about a lot of issues that matter from the economy to national security to personal security. we want to make sure that they're able to focus on that is correct not just on that stage but on their day-to-day engagement. we have a voter file that enables our campaign to have the best access to voter information so that they can do that. unfortunately in this case what happened is that the underlying data that everybody has access to is fine but in terms of some of the campaigns being able to access information from the others, some members of one of the campaigns, several members of one of the campaigns accessed data from another. so we have to make sure that we take the necessary steps to recognize what happened to the data, how it was used and that the information has been disposed off so the effective campaign knows that data is no longer in possession of the other. >> are you satisfied that the
campaign fired the staffer that did this? >> we're in the process of finding out what happened and we're in the process to work with our vendor to move forward. we're looking at the possibility to bring in an independent security analyst to make sure we're complying with an agreement that all of the users have in terms of the use of the system. it's an important system. it's the system that enables us to have an edge over the republicans we've had over the last couple of cycles in terms of reaching out and engaging voters. and we're going to continue to work with our vendor to ensure this doesn't happen again. it was an isolated incident. it was a glitch. it's important to know none of the data was compromised externally. it's strictly among the users of the system and we're working to make sure that happens. there's a very important contrast tomorrow night where after tuesday's debate where you saw republicans candidates
adopting and mimicking donald trump and making it impossible to have a serious conversation on national security. ted cruz, for example, he thinks isis is waiting in the desert for them to carpet bomb them. we want to reach out and engage voters face to face and as many ways as possible so we're going to fix the system. >> luis, thank you for being with me. appreciate your time. >> few issues have highlighted real contrast among republican candidates like immigration. it could be the deciding factor for a lot of voters deciding between two top contenders. specifically marco rubio and ted cruz. cruz see's rubio's path to citizenship as a vulnerability
but is seen as now flip flopping to appeal to the base. >> it not an attack, it a fact. i only raise the issue when he attacked me on immigration. and my answer was i'm puzzled by his attacks since our positions are not that much different. >> cruz tried to turn the tables on rubio by describing his gang of eight bill as amnesty and accusing the senator of misleading his constituents. >> marco rubio's campaign telling the people of florida if you elect me, i will lead the fight against amnesty. in 2013 senator rubio made the decision to stand shoulder to shoulder with chuck schumer and harry reid and barack obama and hillary clinton. and not only not to do what he promised the voters of florida, not to lead the fight against amnesty but to author a massive amnesty bill.
>> right now i'm joined by susan page, washington bureau chief. good to see you. >> hey, jose. >> putting aside amnesty and what was in that gang of eight bill, he says now they were poison pills although other lawmakers and others say cruz wanted the bill to pass. how do we know which is the true cruz? >> and does it matter? because it has the effect of muddying the waters with senator cruz's position on immigration. it raises some questions about his authenticity. this is what the rubio campaign is hoping to do. even though it was a poison pill then and he spoke up in favor of it during the debate in that immigration bill or it want a poison pill and he's not being straight with voters now, this is the point he's trying to make.
for the rubio campaign, his past position on immigration is in support of that compromise bill two years ago has emerged as a big vulnerability for them in the republican primaries this year. >> let's also talk a little bit about rubio. the fact is that whereas he was part of that gang of eight, that did not have amnesty but it did have a series of -- it was comprehensive so it was dealing with the increased border patrol and the possibility for the undocumented to come out from under the shadows, register, become legal yet not have a pathway to residency automatically given to them. but putting that aside, rubio has since then kind of backed away from that bill and now he's kind of, what, saying that well, he really didn't back away from it. >> it was very important.
rubio's support was critical when that bill got through the senate. he was a republican -- a cuban american. he has a lot of credibility on this issue. now we heard him explain in our debate the other night that there's not going to be a comprehensive bill, it irrelevant that you've got to start doing things on security of the border before you can talk about providing a path to legal status for people who are here without documents now. now, that is a good position to have in a general election, but it is a tricky position to have i hi whur wh you're talking to primary voters. what was the first issue that launched donald trump on his amazing path this year. it was an issue of immigration. this issue resonates like no others with primary voters. >> that gang of eight bill did have point metrics that needed to be followed in order for the second, third and fourth phase of that bill, which included in
those third and fourth phases the undocumented being able to live outside of the shadows, but there had to be metrics on the border. susan, it's always great to see you. thank you very much for being with us. >> we're following new developments in the virginia case where a man was tased by police multiple times and died in custody. ari melber joins me with with his exclusive reporting on that. good to see you. >> nice to see you. we obtained a video that showed a man in virginia being taken into police custody, not as a criminal suspect but for medical care. he was brought to a hospital but then tased repeatedly and then ultimately died in custody. brand new in our newsroom, we have explained exclusively the criminal investigative files to this incident. the criminal case is still open but we've obtained the file from the state police investigation and here is our report.
>> reporter: when video first surfaced last month of police repeatedly tasing a man in the entrance of a virginia hospital, little was none about the incident. police said they planned to take him inside for mental care but after he broke their squad car window, they tased him repeatedly while he was cuffed and took him to jail where he died in custody. prosecutors are reviewing an investigation to decide whether to charge the officers. but new records from that inquiry and handwritten police statements obtained exclusively by msnbc show police made claims contradicted by the video. one of the three officers,co corporal tiffany bradford said the taser was necessary because lambert grabbed the end of the taser, pulling it several times but the video does not show that
happening. lambert's hands were cuffed behind his back the whole time. bratton also told investigators got up four times after four separate tasings, but the video shows he never got himself up. that police statement is potentially critical, says a former federal prosecutor. but since that activity is not shown on the video, prosecutors could also focus on whether the officer was deliberately misleading. >> in virginia it's a class one misdemeanor, it carries up to 12 months in jail for any person to knowingly or willfully to make a materially false statement to any officer investigating a crime. >> two and a half years after the incident, the case is still open.
now, i spoke to prosecutors about this brand new reporting based on these previously secretive investigative files, an investigator added to this case told me basically when they look at false statements, he said his role was not to be locking at that for that reason. he wasn't brought to on the case to decide whether south boston folks lied to state police. and the prosecutor told me that the virginia state police investigation left questions unanswered that must be answered, questions that would not have been contemplated by the state police investigators and that i didn't fully develop until i had consulted exence tifl. and to translate some of that, jose, legally what she's saying is state investigators game her
something im -- police statements about this deadly tasing were contradicted by the very video that investigators had. jose? >> ari melber, thank you very much. i'm going to take you now to the border where the number of unaccompanied minors has doubled in the last two months, compared to last year. the children are coming once again mostly from honduras, el salvador. mark potter recently traveled to the border. you are reporting on this like few others do and can. numbers doubling in the last months? >> absolutely. there's a sizable increase. they're coming in day and night. the border patrol is dealing
with this all the time. these are people from guatemala, el salvador and honduras. the numbers are impressive. more than 10,000 unaccompanied kids in the last two months and the numbers for families are even higher, more than 12,000 family members crossing the border. that's nearly triple the same amount this time last year. so they're climbing up the u.s. customs commissioner, he said this may very well be the new normal. he's concerned about this. he had homeland security people, not saying this was a crisis. they're saying this is not a border security issue, a humanitarian issue. officials disagree. they say it is a security issue. so this is just ripe for the political argument that we heard earlier on the show. in the meantime the families and kid are pouring in. >> when these families and kids that are coming through in high
numbers, these are people who are actually looking for border patrol and handing themselves in. these aren't the ones we're seeing -- the cases we've seen where they're trying to avoid authorities. >> no. they come across the river, typically if you're in the rio grande area, this is organized from central america, through mexico up to the river to the u.s. side. that's where the struglers are and basically stand and wait for an agent to come pick them up s us -- deportation can take a long time. they will likely be released into the community. and then they look bedragled when they get here. this is a tough trip. eight do you think rouse, tough, harrowing trip. >> but more and more people are making it.
thousands a month are making it. >> and who's making a financial killing out of it? the drug cartels in this business as well. >> do you not go through mexico, do not cross the border without permission of the cartels and plaza bosses. and also there's that push factor in central america. huge problems down there still unanswered and today congress is going to deal with that aid package. >> $750 million from central america. >> mark potter, thank you very much. appreciate that reporting from you. up next, the young businessman who became the new face of greed after hiking prices of a life-saving drug. he's now under arrest. we have the details next. >> chris doyle of e.c. plumbing in lakewood, colorado has used
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apartment overnight, released on bond, swarmed by the media and wearing sunglasses, one again the object of public scorn. in september, the baby-faced pharmaceutical exec became an overnight sensation and not in a good way, when he took a life-saving drug that cost just $13.50 and priced it at $750. >> to exist and maintain a profit i think is pretty reasonable. >> on thursday, he was accused of creating an elaborate ponzi scheme, stealing from his own company and lying to investors. he pled not guilty to the charges. >> he lied to them. he lied to the investors about how the investments were doing. >> reporter: he seemingly enjoys the attention, posting hours and hours of live web cam sessions on youtube, including this one from five days ago, nearly seven hours long. schacrelli alone in a hotel room the entire time. >> christmas shopping. i don't christmas shop. >> reporter: here he is early morning on thursday, not long
before he would be arrested by the fbi, admitted to being drunk, scrolling dating sites and playing chess. the 32-year-old who became the poster child for high drug prices sparked more outrage weeks ago after spending millions of dollars for wu-tang clan's latest album, taunting fans around the country when he said he wouldn't even listen to it. >> the way that he's created his wealth really did not engender a lot of him in any community, let alone the hip cop community. >> reporter: following his arrest on thursday, the fbi said it hadn't seized anything from his home, including the album, triggering tweets loike these - "did you listen at least?" "can you go back and get it?" well, cal perry, senior editor for digital content, is back with us this morning with the social media response to this guy. people didn't really hold back much, did they?
>> no, and this is someone who has been playing with fire on social media, frankly, the past few months, so people taking enjoyment out of this. take a look at the day that was for shreli on twitter. it peaked at 4:00 p.m. at 320 tweets a minute, almost 200,000 tweets so far. he didn't make life any easier for himself. as soon as he got home, he tweeted that he was home, which, excuse me, set off a bit of a firestorm. we had a young ceo, michael martins of smart in content studio, say oeg "set his bail 4,000% higher than it should be." also, the ceo of "golf digest" basically saying you're not going to get any support. and "the new yorker" even weighing in, saying the lawyer should raise his fees about 5,000%. and we even have politicians. keep in mind, shkreli actually did take a shot.
at sanders a few months ago. here we have hillary clinton weighing in. so, not at all popular on social media. the other thing people are saying is this is karma. karma may not exist in life, but it exists on social media, jose. >> cal perry, thank you very much. up next, a staggering 90% of the united states still has some holiday shopping to do during this final week before christmas. can you believe that? i'm still looking for a space monkey outfit. haven't been able to find one. and we'll have tips avoiding going over the top 3 and he would have wanted you to have it. it meant a lot to him... yes, ge makes powerful machines. but i'll be writing the code that will allow those machines to share information with each other. i'll be changing the way the world works. (interrupting) you can't pick it up, can you? go ahead. he can't lift the hammer. it's okay though! you're going to change the world.
don't look now, but there's just one week left until christmas, and if you're like most people, you're not done shopping yet. in fact, 90% say they're still working on crossing off their christmas lists. msnbc business correspondent olivia stearns is here with the last-minute christmas crunch. olivia, is it true, 90%? >> it's true. only 10% of us are actually
finished. >> wow! >> you know, jose, we talked a lot about how the sales started earlier, so people got started shopping earlier. that is true, but of course, there is a long way between starting and finishing up your shopping. according to the national retail federation, where these numbers are from, the biggest reason shoppers haven't finished up is because they're just not sure what to buy. 22% are holding out for the best deals, and another 20% admit they are just procrastinating. on average, shoppers have completed 53.5% of their shopping at this point. but i have good news, jose, for you and the 90% of us who have not actually finished up. today is something called free shipping day. it is another one of these kind of manufactured consumer holidays. about 1,000 retailers, including big box stores like walmart are offering free shipping on everything today. so, no minimum purchase. it's best, of course, for small orders, because at this point, most major retailers do offer free shipping -- >> olivia? >> yes? >> let me ask you a question, if you're getting the free shipping thing today, does that guarantee you'll get the stuff before the 24th? >> most retailers, if you do
order today, will guarantee it will be on your doorstep by christmas. after today, you are going to have to start making your peace with paying for premium shipping. but speaking of walmart quickly, one really fun story in the news. some anonymous secret santas have been paying off the layaway balances on holiday accounts of shoppers in three states, ohio, florida and pennsylvania. one person donated $106,000 to pay off accounts at two stores in northeast ohio. another gave $200,000 for layaway tabs in florida. and at a local pennsylvania businessman who calls himself santa b, he paid off $158,000. it's incredible. customers get notified by phone. and walmart says that a lot of people, actually, who get notified that their layaway account's been paid off go ahead and pay off their friends'. >> aww, that's so sweet. olivia, great seeing you. >> thank you. breaking news before we go to the break. the house just approved a massive government spending bill, setting up senate votes for later today before sending
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foolishly run, so stupidly run on so many levels, and these are people who have great spirit. >> nbc's katy tur has been following the trump campaign. she joins me this morning. katy, great seeing you. >> you, too. >> so, what's trump's strategy to keep those numbers going all the way through, you know, primary season? >> i think he wants to get out there as much as he can, have very big rallies, get the press attention, say probably outrageous things to continue to get in the headlines. but right now, he's doing so well in all of the national polls, leading by double digits, also doing well in this new hampshire poll. but the polls that really matter right now are the early state polls, like the new hampshire poll, but also iowa and south carolina. and in iowa, he faces a lot of competition from ted cruz. ted cruz is beating him in some of the more notable iowa polls, so he really needs to focus more on iowa and get his message out there. new hampshire, he's doing well, but south carolina could pose a problem with someone like ted cruz. his evangelical base and roots
could do well there as well. so, ted cruz has multiple paths to overtake donald trump, the current front-runner and the one to watch right now. we have heard that roger stone, donald trump's former adviser, is now forming his own super pac for the front-runner, one that the campaign doesn't condone but one that will not necessarily do positive ads for the front-runner himself but will go after his opponents, people like marco rubio, chris christie, ted cruz, try to, in their words, enlighten the voters about their records on immigration and how they might contrast to donald trump's. so, right now, even though he doesn't condone having a super pac, one is being formed in his name, and it does say that it will not take donations from big donors, but rather, from small donors who have been donating to the campaign itself anyway. >> katy tur, or katy tur, as i like to call you. >> i like that better. we should use that. >> thank you. donald trump covered a morning of issues on "morning joe," from
ted cruz to vladimir putin. here's the first part of that interview. >> donald, good morning. >> good morning. >> how's it going? >> it's going well. >> yeah? do you like vladimir putin's comments about you? >> sure. when people call you brilliant, it's always good, especially when the person heads up russia. >> yeah. >> well, i mean, also, it's a person that kills journalists, political opponents and invades countries. obviously, that would be a concern, would it not? >> he's running his country, and at least he's a leader, unlike what we have in this country. >> but again, he kills journalists that don't agree with him. >> well, i think our country does plenty of killing also, joe, so you know. >> what do you mean by that? >> there are a lot of things going on in the world right now, joe, a lot of killing going on, a lot of stupidity, and that's the way it is, but you didn't ask me the question. you asked me a different question, so that's fine.
>> i'm confused. you obviously condemn vladimir putin killing journalists and political opponents, right? >> oh, sure, absolutely. >> all right, so, how would america's relationship with russia change if you were president? >> well, i think it would be good. i've always felt, you know, fine about putin. i think that he's a strong leader, he's a powerful leader, he's represented his country, if that's the way the country's being represented. he's actually got popularity within his country. they respect him as a leader, certainly over the last couple of years they've respected him as a leader. i think he's up in the 80s, which is, you know, you see where obama's in the 30s and low 40s, and you know, he's up in the 80s, so i guess -- and i don't know who does the polls. maybe he does the polls -- >> probably. >> but i think they're done by american companies, actually, so. >> what would you do as president, as commander in chief, to drive vladimir putin's forces out of the crimea and out
of ukraine and make sure that he doesn't move further west and move those troops towards kiev? >> sure, but you know what, i have pretty strong views on the ukraine. i have friends from the ukraine, fantastic people. but i look at the ukraine and see germany doing nothing and so many countries over there not really engaged and we're totally engaged, and i ask myself, you know, here's this big, monstrous country, germany, and they hardly speak up. they accept his oil and gas and lots of other things, and here we are fighting like hell, and we owe $19 trillion in debt and we have nothing but problems in this country, and we're sitting on a big, fat, beautiful bubble that's ready to explode, financial bubble i'm talking about, and you know, we're always at the forefront of leading the charge. i think that other countries have to get involved with that, joe. you have the ukraine, and it
affects other countries a hell of a lot more than it affects us. >> but if there's strong american leadership, other countries will follow. it seems to me -- >> no, i think that's fine, but -- >> -- the united states was strong. >> yeah, yeah. >> and let's say, would you consider, for instance, giving poland the antimissile defense system that they want? >> i would consider that, absolutely. you know, when you say follow, i think that's great, but maybe we should do a little bit of following and let the neighbors sort of tell us, you know, like, let the neighbors take more of an active role in the ukraine, because i don't see a lot of active role from neighbors around the ukraine. i see us always saying get out of the ukraine. >> right. >> and frankly, i'd like to see a little enthusiasm from the people that are most directly affected, joe. >> i think a lot of americans would agree with you -- >> i think we have lots of problems. joe -- >> i think a lot of americans would agree with you, but wouldn't some obama critics say that sounds a lot like leading from behind? >> oh, i don't think it's leading from behind.
i think i want to see our country get rebuilt again. our country's falling apart, frankly. our infrastructure's a disaster, our bridges are falling down. 61% of our bridges are in danger. our whole country's a mess, and you know, you're asking me a question. i mean, there are lots of things we can do. >> right. >> but one of the things i want to do is make america great again, and i'm tired of -- >> so, you're talking about limiting america's reach, and i've got to say, in much the same way that george w. bush in 2000 before 9/11 talked about how we needed to have a more humble foreign policy. if that's the case, do you also think that we've spent too much on defense spending and that sequestration is actually a good idea and we should use that money that we're not spending on the pentagon to rebuild our infrastructure? >> well, i think we have to really rebuild our military. that doesn't mean we have to use it. i think we've used our military far too much on certain things,
and certainly, we haven't used it very well. but i think we have to rebuild our military, frankly. i think our military is in shambles. i look at general odierno saying we're least prepared as we've ever been as a country, and probably today we have to be the most prepared. you know, the world hates us. they truly hate us. so, i'm very, very pro and very strong on the military, but i'm also strong on rebuilding our infrastructure in our country and rebuilding our schools and taking care of our educational systems. >> how do we pay for that? >> we've spent $5 trillion in the middle east, okay? >> right. >> if you add it all up, $5 trillion. probably close to $3 trillion in iraq. we have nothing. who's going to get iraq, they should be thanking us every day, because nobody has done to a country what iran has done to us. between this nuclear deal, which is one of the worst negotiations
i've ever seen of any kind. but bigger than that, the only deal they're going to make that's even better is we have hand and gift-wrapped iraq, and we're handing it to iran. i've been saying this for years, iran is taking over iraq. how simple can anything be? iran -- we have totally decapitated iraq. they used to be of equal status militarily, and now we have gift-wrapped it and we have given iraq to iran, which, by the way, has the second largest oil reserves in the world. so, iran made one deal better than the nuclear deal by a factor of hundreds, we have given them iraq. >> yeah. >> so, donald, i want to ask you about a topic that's really been in the headlines now for weeks, and that's your temporary ban on muslims coming into this country. polls are showing that you are really striking a chord, whether or not you agree with it or not. i'm asking you if you could right now speak to the muslim american population and tell them what you would do or say as president to make sure they feel
that they are as much a part of this country as everyone else is. >> sure. i have many friends who are muslim. they are great people. they're tremendous people. but there's something going on. i mean, whether you like it or not. and i've seen various polls where 25% of the people, you know, would support and really -- i mean, you look at some of the numbers, 25% of the people would support very, very substantial violence from within. i mean, that's -- and that's not acceptable. then somebody said, oh, it's not really 25%, it's only 10% or it's only 7%. well, 1% is un -- because the kind of violence we're talking about is extraordinary violence. it's not acceptable. >> i'm asking you what you would do or say to the muslim american population to make sure they still feel welcome in this country just as much as any other american. i'm not asking you about what it is that's going on or that's something that's going on or whatever.
i'm asking about the positive message that you have for muslim americans who live in this country. >> well, you can't ask that question without saying there's something going on, and everybody knows it. and you know, when i first brought that up -- and i didn't do anything for polls. i didn't even know -- i assumed it would be bad for polls. i don't care about the polls from that standpoint. i'm doing what i think is right. it's a dialogue, and it has to be discussed. and frankly, my muslim friends have said, you're right, we have to discuss it. look, when you had those two horrible people blow away in california 14 people, and others are going to follow because they're very, very severely injured and sitting in hospitals and in big, big trouble -- when you had that, there were numerous people that knew what was going on, mika. there were numerous. why weren't they reported? why weren't these people reported? but there were numerous people. one thing i think that the muslim population of this country has to do is surveil their own people. >> i don't understand why you keep going to the part of the
story that you know has already touched and struck a chord with the primary voters. i'm asking about the muslim american population, the peaceful citizens of this country. >> i'm all for them. i'm all for them, but when they see something going on, and that includes in the mosques -- >> because they are getting harassed and pigeon-holed, because a lot of the comments that are being said, some of them from you. and i'm just wondering, is there a positive message that you have for peaceful muslim americans? >> yeah, it's a positive message, mika, but we have a problem, and the problem is a very severe problem, and they have to help us to solve this problem and they have to help themselves because they are actually helping themselves. but we do have a problem with radicalization within that community, and they have to report it, they have to let us know about it. and if they don't, it's just going to be a continuation. they say there are many, many cells like you have with the two people, these two people.
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specifically ted cruz. >> the moderator asked you the other night, said you had called cruz a maniac over the weekend and suggested he didn't have the temperament to be president. when you were asked that on stage in the debate, you responded by saying, let me just say that i've gotten to know him over the last three or four days, he has a wonderful temperament. i'm just curious if you could explain what you meant you've gotten to know him over the last three or four days. in what way and what did you learn? >> honestly, in all fairness, i was being cute, i was having fun, i did it with a big smile, and frankly, you know, i mean, he's -- of all of the people running, i will say -- and i get along with most of them, hard to believe. most people would say, that's not true, but it is true. i actually get along with most of them. one of the things that's amazing to me is off the stage, it's like a love fest. of course, that's politicians. that's the way politicians behave. you know, you don't really see the real person and that's one of the reasons why people don't like politicians right now.
but with ted cruz, you know, he is -- i've gotten along with him very nicely and i very cutely said it -- it was very well accepted, because he said nice things about me. when people say nice things about me, i think i generally reciprocate, and i was being little bit cute and it got a big laugh and that was the end of that, yeah. >> okay. look, let me ask you about something joe said here the other day after the debate, when he saw your behavior with senator cruz on stage. joe said there's an inside deal between these guys, whether it's a direct deal or an indirect deal, donald and senator cruz have decided not to go after each other because that's in their political interests. is that true? >> well, it's not true, but we got along very well prior to the debate. we're standing up. we didn't talk about this, we didn't do that, but i mean, we did speak, not about this, not about let's get along. it wasn't like that but we got along very nicely. and i really didn't know what to expect. look, i went out on that stage, and if i would have believed all of the pundits, most of whom
have been wrong about me for years, but they certainly have been wrong about me for the last six months, started with the fact that i won't run, as you know. but if i would have believed it, i was going to be attacked by 14 people viciously. and i was was ready for that, said this was going to be a tough evening. >> why do you think marco and everybody else stayed away from you? >> i don't knew. i mean, i don't know. i think they did a very smart thing, but i don't know. and you know, it's just -- i assumed that i was going to be attacked by almost everybody up there. >> but donald, if you were in second or third or fourth place and 20 points behind, it's confounding to me as a political analyst -- that would be like kneeling, if you're down 30 points at halftime, and just trying to run up the clock. why aren't they attacking you when they're down 20 points? >> well, i think because most of them have numerous other people to go through before they get to me, to be honest. i mean, you look at them -- like, i think jeb, jeb, you know, copied his pollster and
memorized a couple of lines given to his pollster. his pollster handed him a couple of lines. but i think jeb makes a mistake, because first of all, his poll numbers haven't gone up at all since the debate. now, maybe i haven't seen all the polls. but jeb has a lot of people to go through before he gets to me. i think that's true with most of them. so, i probably would agree that you have to go after the couple of people that are right in front of you, frankly. >> harold. >> mr. trump, harold ford, good morning. >> hi, harold. >> four years ago, mitt romney said that russia was our biggest strategic enemy, several years before president obama said that he would reach out to adversaries by phone. he received criticism from democrats and republicans for saying that. now you have putin saying that he would have this great relationship with you. can you understand why some would wonder, for years, russia's been our biggest adversary, perhaps biggest frustration, the u.n. security council dealing with iran, dealing with syria, obviously, the actions in crimea. i want greater clarification of
the point. to me, it would be troubling to have putin praise you as he has. and i understand your comments -- >> it's not troubling at all. >> tell me how you would work with him better to make us safer and perhaps make surp aeurope a rest of the world safer from russia's aggression. >> i'm a deal-maker. i make deals, really good deals. i mean, if you study what i've done. and when i filed my financials, people get it. and i'm a deal person. sure, i could see if you want to be tough guys and you want to be, you know, everything, i could see russia being a big problem and i can see mitt romney making that statement, frankly. i can also see russia being a big asset to our country, and i really think that's the way it's going to be. i mean, they're a powerful nation. they've got a big military base. they've got a big military, you know, force. and i think they could be a lot of good things can happen with russia if we get along well with russia and if they respect us. he does not respect our president. putin does not respect our president. a lot of people don't respect our president.
our president does not like putin. there's tremendous -- i see it. look, you know, as a person that does deals all the time, it's all about people. everything's about people. i watched those two sitting in chairs, sitting in two chairs looking at each other prior to having -- and i say, wow, that's really bad chemistry. i just look at it. obama and putin. i look at it, i say that is really, seriously bad chemistry. nothing good is going to come out of that. there's a lot of bad chemistry there, and it's been that way for years. and it just doesn't work. i think russia can be a positive force with respect to -- they can help us. look, we have a problem with is isis. when russia started with we want to get isis -- now, probably they knocked down this plane, but putin doesn't want to have anything to do with isis. he doesn't want isis coming into russia. that's the bottom line. i think that's a real positive. so, when he starts bombing --
and he has been bombing the hell out of them. when he first started, he really wasn't bombing isis, he was bombing some other folks who were not isis-involved in theory, but now he is, and i think that's a positive force. having russia bombing isis -- anybody that wants to bomb isis, congratulations, join the line, i'm all for you. >> jonathan capehart's with us. >> mr. trump, on the front page of my paper, the "washington post," we have a story about your rally in arizona, saying aparents cheers, jeers, a slur and a punch. i don't know if you can see it. it makes me come back to your talk about leadership. you talked about leadership a lot. and i'm wondering if you feel any responsibility for your crowds, for keeping them and the passion that they clearly have and that you've tapped into, keeping them in check, whether it's black lives matter protesters being punched and assaulted, or as in this story about latinos being yelled at
"mother f'ing taco." do you feel any responsibility for tamping down and being a leader and telling your followers that there are certain ways to talk about these issues in this country? >> well, you know, jonathan, i haven't seen your story, so i don't know exactly, but i can tell you that all of my rallies, not just the one that you're talking about -- the one that you're talking about was a tremendous success, it was great. but there's a lot of love at those rallies. there's tremendous love there. and you know, the person that you're referring to from black lives matter was really, really out of line. i mean, the screaming was unbelievable. in fact, i think luciano pavarotti could have taken vocal lessons from this guy. the screaming -- and i think it was one person. it was a while ago, by the way, it was a different rally. i think it was one person. but i mean, it was out of line. we had 15,000 people, and you were unable to speak because of this -- as a matter of fact, i think i'm going to see if i can, you know, do some kind of an
entertainment deal with him, because his voice was unbelievable! and honestly, wouldn't stop. then the police went, and it was the police -- and they weren't my police, jonathan, these were the police that worked for the convention center or whatever. he was really not behaving well, really, really terrible. and nobody talks about that side of the story. i mean, nobody talks. and again, jonathan, these weren't my people, these were people that worked for the city or the state. now, with all that being said, my rallies have tremendous -- there's tremendous spirit and tremendous love. these are people that love our country. these are people that have watched -- and these are smart people, by the way, very smart people. these are people that have watched our country be so foolishly run, so stupidly run on so many levels, and these are people that have great spirit. i mean, unbelievable spirit. you know, joe, the biggest problem is, i can have 15,000 or 20,000 people.
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and what you see in that poll is the three so-called establishment candidates. you look at rubio, you look at christie, you look at bush, they're bunched together there, 12%, 11%, 10%. add that together, you've got 33%. together, that would be enough to dethrone donald trump in new hampshire. the problem for the establishment in new hampshire right now, because if the establishment's going to rise up and stop trump, it really has to be in new hampshire. those votes are spread out so much right now. you've got rubio, who's made a solid impression on people, is looking to grow. you've got christie, who's doing the town hall circuit in new hampshire. that's where he's at his best. he's getting rave reviews and has "the union" newspaper, an aggressive newspaper that's aggressively backing him up there. and jeb bush is sitting on 10% and spending millions of dollars in ads in new hampshire. so, right now, that more than anything else is what donald trump is benefiting from in new hampshire. he's got that core of support behind him and he's got the establishment divided. and unless the establishment can get its act together, can coalesce behind one of those
candidates, trump stands right now to win new hampshire. >> and now to msnbc's senior editor for digital and video, cal perry. cal, people are going to go to the internet to search just about all they can on trump. talk to me about what they're searching for. >> well, they're searching for four things. let's bring up the top four things people are searching for for trump first and then the map. they really want to know his net worth. the second thing is donald trump president, which i'm sure he'd be thrilled with. and donald trump twitter is third. and there is something with the mogul mack miller that's very popular. this map is before the november 10th debate, then after the november 10th debate. all you have to know is the red is donald trump. this has become an obsession online. people are searching for donald trump more than any other candida candidate, and by a wide margin. so, you can tell, obviously, this is starting to relate with the polls, certainly something donald trump wants to capitalize
on. he is very aggressive in social media. it's something he talks about a lot, not only in his rally, but of course, during the debates, jose. >> and msnbc business correspondent olivia sterns joins us now. donald trump has been dealing with business backlash, right? >> of course, jose, and there have been anecdotes in the news cycle about people trying to cut ties with trump after some offensive comments, of course, when he made remarks about mexicans a couple months ago, saying mexico is sending us people with big problems, saying they're bringing us drugs, bringing crime, they're rapists. in the wake of that, we saw nbc, our parent company, and univision both cut ties to air his pageants. we also saw nbc cut ties with "celebrity apprentice," his reality tv show. meanwhile, macy's, they've retailed or discontinued its donald trump line of mens wear. more recently, in the wake of his call to ban muslims from entering the u.s. temporarily, we saw some of his business interests in the middle east
take a little bit of a hit. so, there's a retailer over there called lifestyle. they banned all trump-branded home decor products in their 195 stores. i personally spoke with the ceo of qatar airways. he said this would do damage to the trump brand in the middle east and says he doesn't think donald trump will be welcome over there anymore. and probably somewhere where it hits his pride. he spent a lot of money to buy a golf course in scotland, called trump turnbury. he was hoping to host the british open, the famed golf tournament there in 2020. and according to one source in "the independent" on sunday, the british newspaper, he had been in pole position to host the tournament, but in regards to the muslim comments, the committee has decided enough is enough and they're not going to host the turnment at trump turn libra turnbury. so, that could hurt his pride. however, he has a leisure trump
band. but there is a counterweight to this saying there is no evidence that his remarks have had impacts on sales of condominiums, and of course, his book sales are surging. >> and olivia, he has business pretty much, you know, everywhere. >> certainly, all across the world. he is a global real estate tycoon. but most of his assets, actually, are here in the u.s., and in particular, his real estate assets that are longer-term investments. so, the question is really to what extent what he's saying is actually going to hit his bottom line. >> olivia, thank you. now to chief legal correspondent ari melber. ari, trump is still pushing this temporary muslim ban, but is it constitutional? is it something that could actually be implemented if he were to become president? >> no, it's not constitutional and it'd be hard to implement. and you know, after looking at that interesting "morning joe" interview, jose, we've been hitting the donald trump story from every angle. i've got to tell you, it's fitting that i am going last, because law is the thing that
donald trump seems to care the least about. the attention that we talked about, his business interests we know he cares about, politics he seems to care about and says he's doing well. law, not so much. and as evidence of that to the question you asked, donald trump says flat out, he doesn't care that everyone says his discriminatory proposed ban on muslims would be unconstitutional and illegal. he doesn't care. it's the job of members of congress and the executive branch, and definitely the president, to care. indeed, they take an oath, jose, an oath that we watch on the swearing-in, to uphold the constitution. what is the constitution of the united states? well, it's not just a document that we all can interpret however we want. it's a document that under the rule of law is bound by supreme court precedent. they basically tell us what that law is sometimes. so, people are going to have to evaluate whether they care that someone running for that type of role in the highest office says when told repeatedly his proposals, like the muslim discriminatory ban are unconstitutional, he doesn't care, they have to factor that in, and is that just rhetoric --
and we see that in politics -- or would he be the kind of president who would potentially ignore what the law says or what the supreme court says it says, because that's how he's campaigning, jose. >> yeah. ari, and i just want to be clear on something, you may be last in this segment, but you're first in our hearts. >> thank you. well, at least your heart, sir. >> that makes one of us. ari, thanks. >> thank you. up next, we shift to the democrats and a headache for bernie sanders. real madrid have about 450 million fans. we're trying to give them all the feeling of being at the stadium. the microsoft cloud gives us the scalability to communicate exactly the content that people want to see. it will help people connect to their passion of living real madrid.
donald trump is making his lead in the republican side, but hillary clinton is doing the same on the democratic side, and as democrats prepare to clash with a third debate tomorrow, sanders has a new headache, the decision by the dnc to spend his campaign's access to data after a staffer reportedly got into clinton's files. steve kornacki along with ari melber and jeremy peters.
trump is on top of new hampshire and nationally as well. what do you make of all this? >> well, obviously, no surprise. it's a continuation of what we've been talking about for a few months. today the new wrinkle i guess is vladimir putin. you're playing that clip from "morning joe," where donald trump seems very pleased that vladimir putin is saying nice things about him, saying nice things about vladimir putin in return, even in the face of being told, hey, he kills journalis journalists, suppresses democracy, all these things. that's something that's obviously going to open up donald trump to plenty of attack from fellow republicans. a lot of them have made putin-bashing a staple of their campaign. i think what's interesting in this is donald trump, in taking this posture on vladimir putin, he's sort of calling back to a different era of republicanism, a different era of conservatism. ironically, it involved russia and the soviet union, but you'll remember, the cold war, the united states, in particular, conservatives in this country were very eager to make common cause to make allies with dictators, with dictators who
had horrible records on human rights, on killing reporters, all these sorts of things that putin's accused of. and the idea was, we make common cause with these dictators because they have a common enemy with us. and in the case of the cold war, it was soviet communism. and what trump is trying to do is revive that idea in the age of isis. and you hear him making that argument. he's saying, look, we may not like everything that putin is doing in russia, but putin has a strong military and he's willing to use that military to bomb isis. and so, we should be welcoming that. we should be welcoming that support. i'm curious to see how that debate, how that argument plays out in the republican party. before isis, i don't think any republican really could have gotten away with saying nice things about vladimir putin. in the age of isis, we'll see if trump wican make that work. >> and jeremy, your article had an interesting story about rubio, saying supporters are worrying about the early state strategy. what can you tell us about that? >> well, having written that article, i can tell you that there is some nervousness in the
early states among a lot of rubio supporters that he has not sufficiently committed. now, the rubio campaign will say, look, relax, guys, everything's under control, but the problem there is they're not very forthcoming about the details of their plan. they're keeping it very tightly under wraps. so, regardless of what they're actually doing, there is a perception that exists, no matter how true, that he isn't in it to win it, and that can be very harmful, especially if voters think that he is just playing for third or second place. >> i mean, yeah, jeremy, i'm just wondering where he thinks he needs to be winning. where is the strategy of a place that he thinks he can win? >> they haven't decided yet, and it's not like tlaly that they w decide until january. i think the way things stand right now, i think it's almost impossible to see any type of victory in iowa, given that cruz and trump are so far ahead there. you just don't know what's going to happen in new hampshire. he will be visiting new hampshire next week, making, you
know, a pretty extended trip. i think beyond that, you look at south carolina, where his campaign staffers have a lot of experience, where he has a lot of roots, but this race has been so unpredictable. and i think trying to apply lessons of history and the rules of political physics to a campaign that has so far been driven by emotion is really hard, and that's unsettled a lot of rubio's plans. >> yeah, and ari, on the democratic side, talk to us -- exactly que paso, with the bernie sanders campaign on the database. [ speaking spanish ] >> that's because this is a developing story, but what we do know, because this is interesting. if you're sitting at home going, god, do i ever get those phone calls, telemarketers or campaign, a lot of that comes from the databases that are under private control, so it's not a government issue, but
cording to democratic officials, somebody associated with the sanders campaign got access to data they should have not had access to, and they've now been terminated. dnc spokesperson elise miranda was on earlier with you on an interview on this, so we're still learning to it. he was stressing to you that, basically, the argument is, look, this happened, but this was all internal, internal to the system and had to do with an update like when you get an update on your apple iphone and there's some patch or hole, and somebody basically circumvented that, used the hole to get stuff they shouldn't have had, but it was all internal. so, it's not like some giant leak or something they say people should be concerned about, but it goes to a bigger, sort of legal thing, which is that the campaigns and the parties have a tremendous amount of information about people. they are in the business of collecting it, and their security around it is important because regular citizens, including plenty of people who don't want to be bothered by campaigns or want their information out there, of course, are seeing it get vacuumed up for the business of trying to microtarget and win elections. >> ari melber, jeremy peters and
steve kornacki, thank you so much for being with me this morning. appreciate it. well, the house passed the nearly $1 trillion spending bill. now it's on to the senate.
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these are the types of bills that gave the previous speaker, john boehner, a lot of problems. ryan able to sell the bill himself against the majority of his conference. now, we spoke yesterday about democrats being apprehensive about this because there was not enough aid for puerto rico inside the bill. well, nancy pelosi able to move her caucus to yes because she gave an assurance that she had gotten from speaker ryan that puerto rico will be dealt with by the end of march when they come back next year. this is the last business of the house of representatives. to give you an idea how quickly this is going, jose, this $1.1 trillion spending bill, i actually saw the clerk take the bill off the house floor, get in the elevator and go right over to the u.s. senate, and the senate is voting on it now. they just broke the 60 votes they needed to get through filibuster, and they'll probably pass this by noon today. the fumes are running, they want to get home after all of the posturing back and forth. the bill still to be signed,
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the bernie sanders campaign is punished after a staffer improperly accesses details on supporters collected by the clinton campaign. this all unfolding just one day before the democratic debate. and developing now, president obama set to hold his last news conference of the year. he'll then travel to san bernardino to meet victims' families of the mass shooting in that state as chilling, new details emerge in the investigation. and now someone's been charged. and breaking right now, a $1.1 trillion spending bill easily passes the house this morning, and it's headed to the senate today. will a government shutdown be avoided? and good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. we want to begin with the new developments in the 2016 race. bernie sanders is being punished by the democratic national committee this morning after allegations that at least one of his staffers improperly searched confidential data from the hillary clinton campaign. now, in response to the breach, the dnc is now barring the