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good to be with you this afternoon. i'm frances rivera in for thomas roberts. we start this hour in new hampshire, waiting to hear from hillary clinton at a rally in portsmouth and whether she will hit back at donald trump's latest attacks on her husband, former president bill clinton. the democratic front-runner in a statement last night said she wouldn't be pushed around by trump who said bill clinton's past relationships with women will be quote, fair game. listen to what he told nbc news' savannah guthrie this morning. >> there was certainly a lot of abuse of women. you look at whether it's monica lewinsky or paula jones or many of them, and that certainly will be fair game. certainly if they play the woman's card with respect to me, that will be fair game. >> let's dive in with two reports for you now on the trump versus clinton dynamic. nbc is live in council bluffs, where trump will be speaking
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tonight. joining us now, there were other gop candidates will be campaigning as well. jacob? >> reporter: it would seem that donald trump knows that this will work for him. he points in his comments to 2008 when hillary clinton brought in her husband and he points out that she lost then. he seems to believe that now, bringing in' bill clinton is not a winning strategy for hillary. he's saying it's fair game and he thinks this will work for him. we believe and we have said many times that attacking bill clinton may be helpful in the short term but in a general election, it's yet to be seen if donald trump becomes the nominee, if this will work for him. we do know it's crunch time in iowa. this is the time after the holidays -- the trump campaign has said they are aiming for 48,000 caucus goers.
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that is an enormous number. trump is speaking tonight at an event. [ inaudible ] of course we are waiting on those events today. >> certainly a lot to watch there with trump versus clinton. we have rubio versus bush and on the side as well, chris christie. jacob, thanks so much. want to bring in a former clinton white house advisor and writer for "the new yorker." appreciate you being with us.
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talking about trump's hits on bill clinton. i want to read to you on the other side what a lot of people may agree with. columnist ruth marcus writes in the "washington post" saying clinton's past is indeed fair game. trump has smeared women because of their looks. clinton has preyed on them in a workplace setting where he was by far the superior. that is uncomfortable for clinton supporters but it is unavoidably true. does she have a fair point when it comes to that comparison? >> well, i don't think so. i think that people realize that hillary clinton is on the ballot, she has a record. she is her own person. she has a lot of accomplishments and a lot she wants to do for this country. >> but we will see him at campaign events in new hampshire, solo, on his own starting next week. >> i think she is bringing her husband much like barack obama brought in bill clinton because he has a reputation and a record for being first of all one of the most respected figures in the country, if not the world, but more importantly, one of the
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best campaigners ever. i think people pretty much acknowledge that he single-handedly rescued the obama campaign with his convention speech in 2012 and perhaps is probably the person most responsible for barack obama's re-election. so he is a good person to bring in to campaign for you but i think people realize that they are not voting for bill clinton. they will decide whether or not they support hillary. >> they want to know what he has to say and if he will go on the attack against donald trump as well. but you bring up how he saved barack obama 2012. let's go four years earlier, bill clinton did a stump for hillary. do you think president clinton can be a better proxy this time around? if you think back in 2008 and some may say that kind of backfired when he was helping her there and aligning with the obama campaign. when you think of it back four years, some may say this may actually hurt them, actually. >> i think that campaigns are full of surprises.
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a lot was going on in 2008. bill clinton is pretty much acknowledged as the best campaigner there is. i think clearly what mr. trump is trying to do here is trying to inject in the republican primary race with his kind of right wing fringe supporters an element that may be attractive to them but in a general election, bill clinton is very popular, hillary clinton is very popular and these kind of tactics won't work in the general election. they may work in a republican primary. i think also that mr. trump is becoming a little unhinged, quite frankly. i think you saw some of this in his debate with jeb bush. >> the polls don't reflect that. we see him still in the polls, still popular as we have seen him. >> the republicans generally who for eight years now have stood for -- have been the party of no, have been the party of running against women, some of this may be attractive and some of this may be what the republican party has wanted and what all these republicans have done. none of them are really pro --
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are advocating pro-women policies, policies that would help the middle class. hillary clinton is the only one who is really advancing a sound group of policies like this. but i think these tactics will not work. i think that they will not be a distraction in the general election and while they may help mr. trump's poll numbers in the short term, with republicans on the right, they will not work. >> we appreciate the perspective and continue to watch, especially as we will see bill clinton there on the trail in the following week. as always, thank you for the perspective and being with us. nbc news political editor kerri dann joins us. you heard it's not going to work, and as far as bill clinton stepping up it will definitely be effective. how can he do that and dodge the issues at stake when we are hearing from ruth's article saying you know what, fair game? it's a point. >> reporter: i don't think that it's surprising that donald trump is taking this tack.
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if you look inside his poll numbers he has a big problem with women, particularly independent and moderate women. there's a big gap in general election matchups between him and hillary clinton. he's saying things about hillary clinton that have been widely interpreted as sexist. the clinton campaign is probably more than happy to counter those or to highlight those comments, trying to gain the sympathy of those moderate women. donald trump by saying this is trying to bring up the battle of the sexual allegations against bill clinton to remind voters who might be on the fence about the clinton administration of those battle times in the '90s but as it keeps being said over and over again, bill clinton is very popular with the general electorate, one of the most popular possible surrogates on either side of the aisle right now. 65% of the general public in a march poll gave bill clinton a thumbs up, only 26% gave him a thumbs down. in a general electorate he remains a very very effective surrogate. the clinton campaign will be more than happy to have him out
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there for them. >> we will see how the race will change with clinton out there. also with more money out there when it comes to donald trump and what he's sinking in, especially saying he is under budget when it comes to $35 million and fox news quoting unnamed sources as far as saying that they will soon be spending at least $2 million per week on advertising. today they have only spent $217,000 on radio ads. you give the amount that jeb bush has spent, the $40 million plus there and marco rubio, how is that going to change the dynamic of this race with this money being sunk in by donald trump? >> reporter: this is donald trump acting for a change like kind of a traditional republican candidate if he is to spend this kind of money. it is worth noting, though, that $2 million a week sounds loik a lot of money but it's really putting him on parity with what the rival campaigns are spending, jeb bush and his affiliated super pac, marco rubio and his super pac are spending more than $2 million a week.
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so donald trump is sort of just getting up to parity if he is to spend money. really what is noteworthy about these numbers with donald trump is that yeah, he has spent less than $220,000 just on radio ads and yet has remained at the very, very top of the polls over and over. this is going to be a change of tune if he actually follows through and spends money on the air waves. >> it will be interesting to watch to see what the ads are going to be like. as always, thank you very much. >> we are staying on this topic when it comes to the pulse question. it focuses on donald trump and the new wave of controversial comments against former president bill clinton. we are asking you at home to weigh in. is bill clinton's past fair game in the 2016 campaign? the pulse is live so log on to pulse.msnbc.com. let us know what you think within the next couple hours. we will share responses. we are following breaking news out of texas, where the tarrant county d.a. sheriff just addressed the future of the affluenza teen, ethan couch. couch and his mother were caught in puerto vallarta, mexico after several days on the run.
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couch got probation for a drunk driving incident that killed four people and after extradition from mexico, the d.a. wants the case moved to adult court. >> it is an anomaly of texas law that if we reduce his juvenile sentence, he would stay in a juvenile facility until his 19th birthday which is april 11th of next year. our request of the court is going to be to transfer his probation to the adult court and deal with him in the adult system. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez is covering this story for us from ft. worth, texas. what more do we know about the circumstances leading up to the arrest? >> reporter: good afternoon. yes, as you mention, authorities here in texas describe that ethan couch and his mother are now in mexican custody. there are reports circulating citing mexican officials that he could be brought back very soon. authorities here in texas did not want to get into the exact
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details of how they tracked him down, but here's what we know. he went missing about two weeks or so and the fbi and u.s. marshal's service were brought in to find him. mexican authorities say they began their investigation over the last several days, actually on saturday, and that couch and his mother were picked up at 6:00 p.m. on monday in the resort town of puerto vallarta, and that they failed to prove their legal status. now, again, that exact timetable for when he might be extradited or deported, we are still trying to find out more details on that. now, this case drew worldwide attention back in 2013. couch was convicted of killing four people following or during a drunk driving crash near ft. worth. his blood alcohol content was three times the legal limit and he only got ten years probation. that's what a judge gave him following that conviction, and that prompted widespread outrage, especially on social media. now, couch -- authorities today
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said that couch's mother could also face additional charges for hindering apprehension and again, we are waiting to see when he and his -- couch and his mother are returned here to the united states. back to you. >> nbc's gabe gutierrez, thank you very much. want to bring in msnbc senior legal correspondent ari melber who joins me in this case. so many fascinating twists and turns, number one he got off, he was lenient because he was a kid who was too spoiled to know right from wrong. that in itself. he takes off, we find him in mexico. how does that come into play? >> he's got a violation of probation, you don't need to be a lawyer to know fleeing to mexico when you are on probation, not allowed. potentially extra charges related to fleeing. then his mom, this first on msnbc, his mom also going to be facing these charges for helping him flee. that can carry up to one to ten years in jail under texas law.
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a lot to chew on. people think sometimes between christmas and new year's is a slow news day. this is a case we have been following for over a year and it splo exploded today. >> break down the factor of his age. we have the d.a. asking in the press conference saying we are going to request that the judge move him up into adult court. how does that factor in? >> that's a big deal. gabe gutierrez has been reporting on this from us. we just heard from him. basically you have a situation because it was originally a minor, this is separate from how lenient they were which a lot of people criticized. it's not unusual to take a minor and keep them in the juvie court system. basically he was under probation in juvenile court. in texas, that means under most crimes for a juvenile, they would be out roughly at the age of 19 no matter what. that would mean the d.a. was frustrated by this, if they left things as they were, even with this new probation violation, even with them catching him at today's press conference he might get out after just serving a few months. >> four months, i think.
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>> four people died in this accident and he fled to mexico. they are saying no way do we let that stand. they want to find a way to transfer him into adult court which a judge can do. i spoke to a former lubbock, texas prosecutor on this story today who said yeah, a judge can move him into adult court where he can face ten years. >> just even the side tidbits that they found him in that video, his hair was what appeared to be dyed and the video of the beer pong right before, that good-bye party. a lot to factor in as we follow this case. june 19th is the next court -- >> that's right. the next thing i will say in fairness, with regard to the new charges, innocent until proven guilty. with regard to the old charges, the serious manslaughter, he pled guilty to that. so we know that he said he did that. the question is now will he finally go to jail. he's avoided that for a long time in a way that upset a lot of people. >> we will see when they get back to the united states and the court hearing happens later in january. thank you. ari melber, thank you. breaking news out of missouri. 13 flood-related deaths have now
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been confirmed. a record crest is expected along the mississippi river thursday. flood waters have started spilling over a levee protecting a missouri town of west alton. the mayor is ordering anyone who hasn't evacuated to get out. about 520 people live in the town 20 miles north of st. louis where the mississippi and missouri rivers converge. of course, we will stay on top of this and update you as it warrants here on msnbc. sure, tv has evolved over the years.
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having there. we understand there have now been 13 flood-related deaths out of missouri that have been confirmed. you are looking at images of what they are dealing with here as much of the midwest and the southwest dealing with these weather issues and even the northeast. specifically in this area. i want to bring in st. charles county executive steve ellman who is on the phone. i appreciate your being with us. i know you are having to attend to a lot. we are looking at these images here. tell us the situation with the crest that's expected along the mississippi river this week and the evacuations that are happening as a result. >> well, people have been leaving west alton for several days now. for those who don't know, west alton is right at the confluence of the missouri and mississippi rivers so it's usually in a position to get flooding from both rivers. right now, the main problem is the mississippi. people, while people have been evacuating, the farmers have
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been trying to move their grain. in fact, i just got off the phone a few minutes ago with the highway department to make sure that even when the roads close for automobiles that grain trucks are able to still get through, because obviously, you've got a year of work in those grain elevators down there and now people are forced to get their grain out of there and get it to market or lose everything. >> absolutely. that is their livelihood, you mentioned a year's work, everything leading up to that and getting in those vehicles, those grain trucks. but the priority is to keep people safe. it's astounding, the video we are watching with the businesses, the homes, all submerged, all under water here. what is the concern right now and how are you fanning out to make sure that number one, the evacuations are taking place but number two, the people who cannot get out, the elderly, those who are sick, are being attended to and helped? >> well, our police department
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is on the scene. it's a lot better now than it used to be in the past when people now have cell phones and ways to communicate in an emergency but i'm sure we will be sending boats out and rescuing people who didn't quite get away. the thing, the important thing here is really the good thing is unfortunately, these people, this is not their first rodeo. it's not their first flood. unfortunately, they have to go through this i would say in the last 30 years, they have been through this six times. so they know the drill. and generally, everything goes well but if it doesn't, we have emergency people available to assist them and we pray they won't be needed. >> hopefully that's the case. very quickly, are there nearby counties helping out to house people who have nowhere to go? >> we have evacuation plans. we are working with the red cross and other agencies to find places for people to stay.
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a lot of them are simply going to higher ground and staying with friends and relatives. >> all right. st. charles, missouri county executive, hopefully this is the worst it will get and you guys have a smooth evacuation as far as these things go and helping everybody get out and keeping everybody safe. appreciate your time. thank you. >> okay. still to come, breaking news in the fight against isis. the pentagon reveals a key isis leader with a direct link to the paris terror attack was killed in a christmas eve air strike. >> al mouadan was actively planning additional attacks against the west. >> also, chicago officer jason van dyke arraigned in the shooting death of laquan mcdonald. how did he plead? we will update you when we come back. ...new technology for capturing co2 emissions... ...and cars twice as efficient as the average car today. ideas exxonmobil scientists are working on to make energy go further...
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in the culture that we're living in, just over the weekend, a chicago police officer just killed a young man and an innocent lady. shot the lady through the door. you have to have some sense of
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comfortability within yourself to believe that you can do this without any kind of recourse from your actions. >> that was the uncle of 17-year-old laquan mcdonald earlier today in chicago. the police officer charged in his death pleaded not guilty today to first degree murder. jason van dyke has been free on $1.5 million bond since november 30th. he is shown on dash cam video shooting mcdonald 16 times in october 2014. his attorney has said van dyke feared for his life and that the video doesn't tell the whole story. msnbc's sarah dallof is in chicago with more on what happened in court today and what's next in the case. >> reporter: good afternoon. it was a quick arraignment. a judge was assigned and another hearing set for january 29th after officer van dyke pleaded not guilty to six counts of first degree murder and one count of official misconduct. afterwards, he was rushed into a
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waiting car flanked by his supporters. his attorney, however, hung back to talk about the possibility of requesting a change of venue. >> this is a case that we're certainly going to explore every possibility that we have which gives my client the best opportunity for a fair trial and if we make the decision that a change of venue is something needed in order for my client to get a fair trial, then we will absolutely explore that option. >> reporter: previously, van dyke's attorney had cited comments by chicago mayor rahm emanuel as one of the main reasons for seeking that change of venue. emanuel's comments condemned the action of van dyke in that shooting. laquan mcdonald's family was also in court. they said, an uncle said they would like to see the trial televised from gavel to gavel in the interest of fairness. van dyke's attorney says that's something he needs to think about and discuss with his client. back to you. >> talk a little bit about the tensions there. i know yesterday there weren't
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too many protests given the very cold and frigid weather in chicago but then you have the tensions from this case, laquan mcdonald, but also over the weekend, shooting, accidental shooting of bettie jones and the 19-year-old as well stirring up tensions even more so. >> reporter: yeah. you heard about that from laquan mcdonald's uncle. he kind of touched on what had happened over the weekend at the beginning of this segment, the shooting of quintonio legrier and bettie jones, his neighbor. this coming as the department is under scrutiny, under a civil rights investigation by the federal government and amidst all of this, all of these tensions, like i mentioned, two more deaths at the hands of police over the weekend. >> all right. thank you very much. the other breaking development in the war on isis, air strikes killing an isis leader with a direct link to the organizer of the paris attacks. belgium police have foiled a new year's terror plot. we are overseas with that update next.
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now to breaking news overseas in the fight against isis. a senior isis leader with direct links to mastermind of the paris attacks has been killed in an air strike. the pentagon says the syrian based militant was actively planning other western attacks. at the same time, belgian police appear to have foiled a possible new year's terror plot in brussels. prosecutors say two people are in custody after a series of police raids over the past two days. the investigation now prompting authorities to raise the threat level in belgian police and military as well. i want to bring in chapman bell from london. we understand this isis leader was one of at least ten terrorists killed in air strikes this month alone. >> reporter: that's right. this particular one killed on the 24th of december, charaffe al mouadan, is said to have direct ties to the paris attack mastermind, abdelhamid abdelhamid abaaoud. and he was actively planning attacks against the west before
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he was killed in these air strikes. abdelhamid abaaoud was killed in a gun battle with french forces in days after the attacks. colonel steve warren delivering this information. he also had this to say. >> it's important to note that all of these terrorists had eventual designs on tattacking the united states. let's be clear about that. that's what they want to do. as far as the stage of their attack planning, we are not going to go into those details yet. because we want to preserve some of our options to continue striking these terrorists. >> reporter: so it appears air strikes are targeting isis leaders in syria with links to these paris attacks and other plans to attack the u.s. >> also interesting to hear more about the raids that happened in belgium and this possible terror plot with two people now in
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custody. what do we know about that? >> reporter: that's right. according to federal prosecutors in belgium, two arrests, one for allegedly leading and recruiting for a terror group, the other for allegedly participating in a terror group's activity with the aim of committing terror offenses, this came after a series of raids over the last couple of days in regions across belgium. searches did find military style training uniforms and isis propaganda but no weapons or bomb material were discovered. authorities saying this investigation, though, is not tied to the november terror attacks in paris that killed 130 people. >> we certainly saw the terror threat level raised immediately after those attacks in belgium as that manhunt was ongoing. now we see the terror threat level raised again. thank you for that update. the successful air strikes against isis have thwarted a plot in belgium and are yet another blow to the islamic state. earlier today, iraq's prime minister toured ramadi a day after forces recaptured the city from isis militants.
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you are looking at new drone video from the u.s. joint coalition of the moment iraqi forces flew their flag monday. earlier today, the spokesman for the pentagon's operation against isis spoke about ramadi's future. >> between the damage done to it when isil seized the city initially, the damage that continued while isil held it and of course, further damage that is just the natural result of modern urban combat, there is significant damage in that city. it's going to take time to rebuild it. >> with me now is michael kay, foreign affairs analyst and retired senior british officer who completed ten combat tours including iraq and afghanistan. always good to have you with me for some perspective here. when we are talking about this, ten terrorists that were killed in air strikes specifically one that is significant. let's talk about the prominence of this isis leader and his ties to abaaoud. >> when we are targeting isis leaders, what we are seeing on
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the battlefield is quick tactical wins but the question i keep asking is the u.s. has been conducting air strikes in iraq and syria over 450 days spending $11 million a day. since that started in the summer of 2014 we have had the paris attacks, the tunisia massacre, a plethora of islamic state bombings in beirut, likewise with baghdad. what i would ask is that while there are tactical wins we are seeing not just in ramadi but in sinjar and we have seen elements within syria where they are degrading the islamic state, the question i would ask is how is that affecting the ability of the islamic state to degrade -- or degrading their ability to prosecute domestic attacks? i think this is the thing we need to work on at the moment, is yes, there are tactical wins going on in ramadi, sinjar and across syria but what does that mean in terms of long term effect? in the last year, foreign fighters coming into syria have doubled. >> are you speaking mostly of
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what is the effect maybe symbolically, psychologically, to the islamic state, to isis? because we know short after we saw this video coming out, it was essentially to kind of beef up the morale of isis fighters as well. is that what we are needing to see as far as more than just air strikes and more than just terrorist -- ten terrorists killed? >> great question. there's no doubt that the fusion between what's called the air/land interface, the ability of u.s. advisors who are some of them that went in last summer into iraq, the ability to prosecute air strikes and work with ground forces in ramadi, the sunni militia, in sinjar working with the pkk, working with the ypg and peshmerga, that is working very well. but we have to take a step back and look at governance. when we look at ramadi, where does ramadi go from here? how do you govern ramadi in a way that gives fair representation. >> and where will the militants
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go? will mosul be next? >> that's another key point. after 9/11 the united states did a great job of neutralizing camps in afghanistan but they flew across the border into pakistan. syria has porous borders. at the moment you have a governance vacuum in yemen which in part is being led by the saudi created bombing campaign and a governance vacuum in libya. what we need to be doing is looking well beyond ramadi and sinjar and raqqah and understanding where the leadership is goeg to go. it's not going to hang around in raqqah and wait to be bombed. it will go to libya. how do we parallel plan and deal with those governance problems we are seeing in yemen? let's talk about turkey and saudi's role in what is going on and get them focusing on the islamic state and not, for example, a principality across syria. we need to understand what russia's view is in terms of where we go with the geneva talks in january. hugely complex. ramadi is a tactical win. there's a long way to go.
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>> hopefully other progress we will see made there. thanks for that perspective. thank you. still to come, hillary clinton holding a town hall in the key state of new hampshire. will she fire a shot across donald trump's bow? we will have the latest on the trump versus clinton controversy. live look at portsmouth, where hillary clinton is speaking right now.
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i think just about everybody agrees with me on that. >> let's bring in msnbc anchor and political correspondent steve kornacki and also matt lewis, author of "too dumb to fail, how the gop betrayed the reagan revolution to win elections and how it can reclaim its conservative roots." to both of you, welcome. as we are watching hillary clinton there in new hampshirer. steve, interesting when we look at this from the past here, blast from the past, 1998, "new york times" headline, shows democrats winning big in the midterms. quote, despite months of dire di predictions that president clint''s scandal would drag down his party's candidates. that was then. then you have now. why would if at all 2016 be any different especially when you think of so many voters weren't of age at the time and you fast forward to this time, is donald trump the only difference? >> right. 1998, that was the year the lewinsky scandal broke and newt gingrich said at the start of
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that campaign he thought republicans would win a 40 seat gain in the house. they ended up losing five seats. that was sort of an historic loss because in the midterm the republicans were supposed to win no matter what. but i think look, two things are going on here. one is among republicans, among the republican primary universe which is right now what donald trump is after, that's right now what he has to worry about, i think getting into a war of words with bill clinton, taking shots at bill clinton and hillary clinton, that's only going to do trump good with that electorate. you are talking about the broader electorate there, why would it bother them now, if it didn't in 1998. i do think one potential difference is this. look, bill clinton ultimately is not the one whose name will be on the ballot this year. it's hillary clinton who is running for the democratic nomination, hillary clinton who maybe could end up running against donald trump and bill clinton is the candidate's spouse. we saw in 2008 when hillary clinton was running against barack obama, when bill clinton is in that role, he maybe comes across a little differently to voters, especially if the press or if hillary clinton's rivals
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get under his skin. that's what happened in 2008. barack obama, some in the media got under bill clinton's skin, he lashed out. it wasn't the bill clinton a lot of people remembered. maybe that's what trump is looking to do, rile him up and get one of the outbursts. >> we will see when bill clinton hits the campaign trail, if and when he engages him at all. matt, interesting when you put into play your latest piece from the daily caller here. you catalog your biggest hits and misses of the year. the biggest miss was the trump phenomenon, to be fair something a lot of people missed as well. i remember sitting in this very chair, this very anchor desk, and talking about oh, when summer's over, it's the summer of trump, oh, when the debates happen he has to show where he stands on the issue. here we are, the end of 2015 now. explain how donald trump continues to stay afloat and survive and especially how it comes into play with the party, what's good for him, good for the party? >> it's really amazing. donald trump is the story of 2015, no doubt about it. he is the big story.
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nobody thought he was going to rise the way he rose. nobody thought he could sustain the way that he has sustained. and here he is, about a month into the iowa caucuses and he's in first place in most national polls. it's really stunning. here you have a guy who is a casino magnate, married multiple times from new york who is somehow the conservative savior even though he's not that conservative on a lot of the issues, and it really goes to show you whether or not he's a political genius or just had impeccable timing, there is a huge nativist zeitgeist happening, people who are fed up and angry, the economy, isis, you name it, donald trump comes along, says i can fix it all, just elect me. >> to both of you, appreciate the time. thank you very much. we have been asking you to weigh in on the donald trump and
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the series of controversial comments he's made about former president bill clinton. we are asking you, bill clinton's past, is it fair game in the 2016 campaign? this is how you are voting so far. 72% of our viewers are saying yep, bill clinton's past, fair game in 2016. and 28% of you say no. feel free to keep voting. pulse.msnbc.com. we will continue to follow the results in the next hour. watching the aftermath from the weekend's deadly weather system that's still ravaging parts of the country. it's leading to evacuations in some counties. we will update you on this breaking story. hey brad, wanna trade the all day relief of two aleve for six tylenol? what's the catch? there's no catch. you want me to give up my two aleve for six tylenol? no. for my knee pain, nothing beats my aleve.
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it is a close encounter getting a lot of buzz. president obama's motorcade stopped momentarily monday after a drone spot flying along the route. the secret service says the pilot completely unaware that the presidential motorcade in the area and grounded the drone immediately after being confronted by law enforcement.
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no charges were filed and the motorcade proceeded without further incident. another new technology story. this hoverboard fire at a texas mall, smoke filled part of the deerbrook mall on monday. area police say it happened at a kiosk that sold them. no one was hurt but certainly a string of incidents. the mayor of cleveland addressing concerns about fairness in the wake of a grand jury's decision not to indict officers involved in the fatal shooting of tamir rice, the 12-year-old boy who was carrying a pellet gun when he was killed. >> we are not trying to support an interest of the police interest or activist interest or whatever interest. we're really trying to do this in a due process way so that we know at the end of it that we know, we believe that we have been fair and we have been just in how we have handled these
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incidents. >> joining me is reverend calvin. pastor, thank you for your time and being with us today. you heard from the mayor. believing that they were fair and just. tell me how his words resonate with you today. >> well, one of the things we know that everything legal is not just. we know that from history. i would say that while we are certainly disappointed by the findings of the county prosecutor and the grand jury, the truth is that we are not in any way surprised. this has been a long drip toward injustice. this is a case that has waited for 13 months for a resolution or at least a taking a trial and we have seen through the actions of the prosecutor there's a reluctance to take this case or any cases related to police misconduct to trial, really looking at his record really over the last four years.
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>> so what are we seeing hearing from the pastor of the tamir rice family yesterday and also in seeing what they wanted to change and seeing what they wanted that was difficult in cleveland. what is it that you want to see and what your congregants want to see, as well? >> well, people want to see that the justice system that we have put our time in electing officials and we have taken the time to put our trust in the laws that we have on the books, we want to see them used fairly and justly. the county prosecutor stated that he wanted to do this process in such a way that was both open, it was transparent and would be accountable to the public. but the truth of the matter is there is nothing in the legal system that's less trance parent than the grand jury process. the grand jury through the prosecutor he used process to try this boy's death in secret and as a result of that he allowed officers to provide
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exculpatory evidence, evidence to xan rate them in the absence of a judge and defense attorney and allowed them to plead the fifth amendment without pressing for them after they had already provided and sworn to tell the truth. so any number of ways we who are in the city of cleveland who have historically put our faith in the justice system or in the political process in 1967, we elected carl stokes to be the first african-american mayor in a major city so we believe in electoral process and clear that mr. mcginty who is an elected official in cuyahoga county lost the public trust. he does not even have the endorsement of his own party, the democratic party which has decided not to endorse him in light of much suspicion and concern about people within the community. >> with that, what have you been seeing with members of your church and community saying that that public trust is lost. have you seen especially in light of this decision of the grand jury not to charge the two
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officers, protests planned, rllys, anything of that sort? >> absolutely. we recognize that obviously that there will be members of our community who are going to take to the streets. there will be -- >> why haven't they already? given we have seen so much action in the past, that the moment that an announcement is made and we understand that charges haven't been filed in other instances and communities and right away we see protests. talk about that and what you're expecting. >> well, again, i think that the strategic manner which the county prosecutor in this case allowed for a 13-month process in which he presented information through the media at the midnight hour, he engaged in public discussion about this, over a 13-month period, it was a slow drip toward an injustice. cleveland historically believed in the power of electoral politics, particularly related
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to the african-american community and we believe that those historically and those e leblgted to coming out of the community would reflect our interests. >> okay. >> but it is clear that this has been a for us this has been clearly a disabusing of that illusion through the actions of this prosecutor. >> reverend, very much appreciate your time being with us. thank you. >> thank you. up next, we're talking the aftermath of the deluge of rain over missouri leaves parts of the state underwater. the latest on the evacuations next. also, we'll tell you what kind of legal consequences could be ahead for 18-year-old ethan couch, the so-called affluenza teen. and did he or didn't he? details on the nfl review surrounding the allegations that a nfl banned substance was shipped repeatedly to star quarterback peyton manning's home.
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good to be with you for another hour. i'm frances rivera in for thomas roberts. breaking news out of missouri, evacuations ordered due to the massive flooding along the mississippi river. astounding image that is we are getting from that community. we are expecting to hear from the state's governor in a news conference this afternoon. but to get the latest, i want to bring in mike levingood, mayor of missouri. there have been flood-related deaths confirmed and latest flooding here, are there any injuries? what can you tell us about that? >> in our community, we have had no injuries, thank god. everything went pretty smooth. we had ample time to warn everybody. it was a slow rise. so we were pretty fortunate. no injuries at this time in this area. >> i'm sure that's a priority. go ahead, sir. >> we did crest. we were glad to hear that. we crest about a foot above the old record of 1982.
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this is a record for flooding in this community. >> well, i understand the priority certainly the safety of people there with the evacuations. i understand 25 homes impacted there in your town of union with seven retailers so far. talk to me about your efforts in making sure everybody is safe, accounted for and evacuated safely. >> well, naturally, there's people wanting to get back in their homes at this time. they can't. the water hasn't receded much. we're working with everyone to make sure that it's safe before they start -- probably another day before they can get back into their residence and start cleaning up. it impacted as you said about nine retailers. we haven't seen this much flooding in -- since i said since 1982. we had flash flooding in 2000 that was pretty dramatic. so we're familiar with how to handle flood.
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thanks to our county and other local cities and our emergency management people. we got everything pretty much under control. >> tell me a little bit about communities and the stories that strike you, especially with the residents there. this happening during the holidays and families should be celebrating together and ringing in the new year but this is how they're dealing with. what are the stories you're hearing of the people there keeping them strong and getting them through it? >> well, you know, i seen my share of tears last night. about the homes and everything like that. same time, i seen people jump in and helping people and make it is midwest what it is. these people wanting to help. people calling the volunteers to help. we'll be in good shape i think so. >> i appreciate your time. i'll let you get back to it, people in the community need your help at this point. best of luck to you, mayor mike levingood of union, missouri, appreciate it very much. 3:45 eastern time.
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the governor of missouri expected to address the public in a news conference. of course, that happening at 3:45. meantime, want to bring in meteorologist alex wilson from the weather channel. talk about the flooding. the mayor talking about people getting back in the homes. >> yeah. we are not going to see that river crest yet. i mean, the river's still going to rise and take a few days before things really begin to get better even though we don't see additional rainfall. flood warnings from illinois, back into eastern oklahoma. you can see a lot of missouri, a lot of arkansas and here's the reason why. looking at the past three days, rainfall up to a foot from parts of southwest missouri, become into arkansas and oklahoma. anywhere from ohio, down into texas, that yellow, three to five inches. plenty of places seen half a foot of rain in three days and exceptional rainfall rates as we have gone forward in time and
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now looking at places like st. louis. the mississippi river, it is expected to reach major flood stage but this is what i was telling you about. notice the river continues to rise and not going to add more rainfall. the river will rise. forecast crest on thursday over 43 feet. so we're looking at major flood stage. the good news, not adding anymore rain into this area. we are going to be staying dry through the remainder of today. back to you. >> alex wilson, thank you very much and continuing to watch it with evacuation ordered to the massive flooding there in the mississippi river in missouri and keep you posted here on msnbc. thank you very much. from the midwest to the northeast having weather issues on their own. a region getting the first real blast of winter this hour. the messy mix of snow, sleet and freezing rain and nbc's ron mott from massachusetts. doesn't look too bad and safe to say more is expected? >> reporter: yeah. you know, we've got a little bit
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of mist, i'll call it a mist falling right now, frances. the bulk of the storm come and gone. it left about two inches of snow in worcester and usually tracks far more significant snow in a storm like this because of the elevation of the second largest city here in new england and dodged a bullet and obviously good news but it was dicey this morning for folks around before the crews get some of the streets treated. the big question going forward now is once the temperatures drop below freezing again tonight, frances, how much moisture is on the roadways for the morning commute wednesday and we have to keep an eye on that. we can tell you, though, further north into new england, vermont, new hampshire, maine especially, expecting far more significant snowfall amounts, upwards of a foot in parts of maine. down here in central and southern new england, people probably relieved that we only got just a dusting really of snow here and we have not heard of any major problems other than a couple of thousand flight
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delays around the country, especially here in this region. frances? >> especially with memories of last winter and the record snowfall that new england and boston got then so i'm sure they're thinking of that, as well. nbc's ron mott, thank you. appreciate it. we're following breaking news in the case of the affluenza teen. ethan couch and his mother tanya in custody in mexico. they want him extradited to texas and tried this adult court. >> it is an anomaly of texas law he would stay in a juvenile facility until his 19th birthday which is april 11th of next year. our request of the court is going to be to transfer his probation to the adult court and deal with him in the adult
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system we'll break down the case and we'll start with nbc news correspondent gabe gutierrez in ft. worth, texas, where authorities briefed on the case and led them to the mother and son team. gabe? >> reporter: according to a photo released by mention con authorities overnight he had altered his appearance it seems like, that's what the sheriff believes, by apparently dying his hair into a darker colors. authorities were sketchy on the details how they spent the last several weeks and they say they're investigating report that is they may have attended some sort of going away party before he failed to check in with his probation officer. they're checking to see exactly who and if any family members may have known that they planned to flee. now, again, they were captured on 6:00 p.m. yesterday. this case got international
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attention back in 2013 and that is when couch was convicted of killing four people in a drunk driving crash. his blood alcohol content was three times the legal limit and this got so much attention because of that unusual defense. his attorney in sentencing claiming that he didn't understand the consequences of his actions because of that affluent upbringing. we have heard from the attorneys for ethan couch this morning. they say that they have not spoken to their client. they're expecting him brought back to the u.s. until then, they would not comment further. frances? >> gabe gutierrez reporting from texas, thank you very much. diving into perspective with chief legal correspondent ari melber and julio vacaro. ari, before delving into how this is changing and the request for him to go to adult court, what's the next step in the process and interesting he's not spoken to his lawyers yet according to his laurels. >> yeah.
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lawyeri lawyers telling msnbc they haven't spoke to him. he'll be transferred and given to the authorities in texas to initial yate that juvenile to adult court process that we just heard about. >> and julio, talk about the circumstances. what led authorities to him and his mother in puerto vallarto, mexico. his family, friends, who may have tipped them off? >> well, authorities had been looking for them for the last couple of weeks and the days before christmas, frances, they asked the public in general to search for a black pickup, ford pickup, where they apparently escaped and crossed the border on that pickup. and both friends, close friends of the family, and public in general gave tips that led to the capture of these two ethan and his mother in puerto vallarto. >> all right. ari, back to you in talking about the next step here. i understand that there is going to be a court hearing on january 19th. what is it that needs to be
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considered here with the judge in determining how he's going to be punished, probation and now the step of moving him from juvenile court to adult court as requested. >> legally they have the argument to move because he is 18 now and in some states you can try people as adults in certain situations even under 18. so a judge looks at those several factors and great weight to prosecutors if he thinks it's a good faith argument. the other wrinkle that gabe and i have been reporting on and trying to figure out today is, this is a case criticized initially because the treatment was so lax and lenient. idea he was rich to get an extra break even though four people died, no jail time whatsoever. as we all know, a lot of folks in jail for a lot less than that and learning with that anomaly in texas law and you played the sound bite, he will not be up for the original ten years that he could have been sentenced to and he gets a do-over in adult court and what it looks like is
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even after all this he would only get a few months in adult court and would have to reoffend after that, re-review late the probation and then good decades of jail time. this case that captivated and angered so many still looks like a result to keep a lot of people upset with the outcome. >> even if the mother faces charges, too. >> he shuz two to ten years and that's a serious consequence. if after all this, four lives lost, flees to mexico, a total lack of respect for the whole system, comes back and only faces a few months, i think people are asking questions. >> absolutely. not to mention the fifth victim that lived and suffering brain damage and paralysis. thank you very much for both of your perspectives, thank you. >> thank you. up next, the race for 2016. donald trump not backing away from the favorite new targets, bill and hillary clinton. the new comments he made about the former president's past
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today. and then developing out of chicago, the officer charged in the death of teen laquan mcdonald in court. how he answered to the accusations against him. breaking news out of the pentagon, an isis figure linked to the ring leader of the paris attacks killed in an air strike. more on the threat military leaders say he posed.
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new hampshire. however, donald trump is taking aim at both clintons. this morning trump today savannah guthrie that drudging up president clinton's past of lue we skin, jones and others is fair game in this election. trump also had this to say when asked about the former president's controversial comments back in 2008 regarding then senator obama. >> you said that he had failed badly in the 2008 campaign when he acted as a surrogate for his wife and you added he was called a racist. i know you choose your words carefully. are you yourself calling him a racist? >> no. he was called that by the obama campaign. he was called it loud and clear. he was extremely insulted. >> why did you put in it your tweet if you don't believe it? >> they said it. i didn't say it. >> we have two reports on trump-clinton and race for the presidency and starting with jacob rascon and trump will have
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a rally later today and we'll see what direction these attacks go. >> reporter: he's already on a roll with his attacks on the clinton and chris christie and the new hampshire union. this is crunch time in iowa. everybody knows it. it's only really after the holidays that the iowa electorate really wakes up. only five weeks away from the all-important caucuses. right near iowa. and trump tonight we don't know, of course, exactly what he will say but we know that the campaign has a goal of 28,000 caucus goers, enormous number, of course. largest group anyone's ever gotten is 40,000 and they have this grand goal and the big question is, can they turn these big rallies into caucus goers? we know that many of those who show up for the rallies are not likely caucus goers. many of them not registered to vote and, in fact, trump has said that he will allow some of the media to go on to his plane for a brief and rare press availability. that's in only a couple of hours.
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that's one of the questions we'll be asking him. can he turn these big rallies into caucus goers and take iowa? >> a question among many. from iowa, thank you very much. want to bring in msnbc host and political correspondent steve kornacki. of course, we are seeing trump versus clintons. also seeing more attacks within the ranks of the gop and the contenders there, especially when it comes to marco rubio and jeb bush and superpac adds there. tell us a little bit more about that. >> all the attention on donald trump, the republican front-runner, a little on ted cruz, given him certainly a run for his money in iowa but this is about the race to be the so-called establishment candidate, the main alternative who emerges against donald trump. the candidate who maybe has the potential to unite the rest of the party and you have marco rubio who people feel is the most electable potential republican candidate, a number of endorsements from republican
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leaders and he is seen right now as a threat from two particular candidates, jeb bush and chris christie. they see a potential for marco rubio to have a strong showing in iowa, to take that strong showing and do better in new hampshire. maybe win that state and knock them out of the race so they're going after marco rubio. they're trying to knock him down in iowa. first it's jeb bush. it's the superpac backing jeb bush right to rise. putting a million dollars into an attack ad going after marco rubio on the attendance record in the senate. here's a taste of that. >> days after the paris attacks, senators came together for a top secret briefing on the terrorist threat. marco rubio was missing. fund-raising in california instead. >> so that's airing in iowa. it's not just jeb bush and superpac but chris christie. he was in iowa today. he made the same attack against marco rubio. let's listen to that. >> he was totally opposed to it and didn't go there to vote no.
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what's it matter that you're opposed to it? he matters as much as i do. i don't have a vote in the senate. he has one. just didn't go. only in washington could you have the guts to stand up and say i'm against something, you have a vote to vote no on and then just not go and then a press release after it gets passed and say, this is why i was opposed to it. dude, show up to work. and vote no. right? just show up to work and vote no and if you don't want to, quit. >> so what this is all about, 339 recorded votes in the senate in the year 2015. marco rubio missed 120 of them while he was off running for president. that gave him the worst attendance record of any senator so that's the ammunition, frances. the reason jeb bush, chris tisty, doing this, they see a real threat in marco rubio and want to nip it in the bud. >> got it. steve, thank you very much. still ahead, demonstrations expected in ohio today, anger
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back now to the breaking news out of missouri. evacuations ordered due to massive floodinging as you see here along the mississippi river. the governor will have a news conference at 3:45 eastern time. earlier today, the governor confirming 13 people have died as a result of the deadly deluge of rain that swept over the weekend. want to bring in on the phone, st. louis mayor francis slay. thank you for being with us. we understand some of the points of the river crested. update us on the efforts to getting people to higher ground. >> well, in st. louis we are not experiencing near the flooding that they're experiencing in other places in missouri. we have a flood wall system that's holding really tight and very well right now. thanks to a $17 million invest
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thamt we put in within the last ten years of voter approval and we are sandbagging along what we call of a -- it's an area that really carries the storm water to the mississippi river. it is backing up and we are getting prepared for a potent l potential -- potential high water that may, you know, end up over the levees there and into some of our neighborhoods so we have a lot of volunteers out, hundreds of volunteers out working with city employees doing just that. this is the wettest december on record in st. louis. and the wettest year on record in st. louis. >> interesting as we are looking at the images of sandbagging, everybody helping out. correct to say they're not mandatory evacuations in your city of st. louis? >> we don't have any mandatory evacuations as i speak. it is not crested yet, though. we expect it to go up more over the next couple of days but at this point, there are some basin
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backups and roads that are -- that are covered with water that could be potentially dangerous. but the city proper as far as the mississippi river and the flood walls, they're holding tight at this point. >> some of the worse hit communities around 20 miles north of st. louis, where the mississippi and missouri rivers converge, specifically west alton with that video there. talk to me about the efforts. members of the red cross to help, offering community places to stay just to make sure that they're okay going through this. >> yes. there's a coordinated effort with the state of missouri, state of illinois, army corps, many displaced and have entire living areas with -- that are being evacuated because of the water. the high water. very close to st. louis just to
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the north of us, low-lying areas, particularly with the missouri river and mississippi river meet so that's certainly much dangerous situation than we are seeing right here in the city proper. >> when koit comes to the city,e are hearing from missouri governor nixon at 3:45 eastern time. what are they saying with efforts of a state level? >> we have been in contact with the governor's team and from our standpoint, again, they're concentrating on the lower lying areas outside the city of st. louis which is what they should be doing. and but we have been in touch. they're certainly we paired and ready to help if there's something we need from them but the governor's in the area and visiting those areas having much more challenges with the water than we are in the city itself. >> absolutely. wishing the best of luck going through the next couple of days.
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thank you for your time and best of luck to you and the community and your residents there. >> thank you so much. >> absolutely. want to bring you breaking news from the pentagon. isis figure linked to this paris ring leader dead, killed in a coalition airstrike. the threat the pentagon says he posed, next. also, terrorists in europe, two in kousdy linked to a suspected new year's plot in belgium. what authorities say they found in their possession, coming up. ♪ (cell phone rings) where are you? well the squirrels are back in the attic. mom? your dad won't call an exterminator... can i call you back, mom? he says it's personal this time... if you're a mom, you call at the worst time. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. it's what you do. where are you? it's very loud there. are you taking a zumba class? want bladder leak underwear that try always discreet underwear and move, groove, wiggle, giggle, swerve, curve.
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the lexus december to remember sales event is here. lease the 2016 es350 for $349 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment. see your lexus dealer. now to developing news in chicago. the police officer charged with killing 17-year-old laquan mcdonald pleaded not guilty. jason vandyke is freed on $1.5 million bond since november 30th. he is shown on video shooting mcdonald 16 times in october of 2014. his attorney says vandyke feared for his life and the video doesn't tell the whole story and mcdonald's family is worried about getting a fair trial. >> in the culture that we're
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living in, just over the weekend chicago police officer just killed a young man and an innocent lady. shot the lady through the door. you have to have some sense of comfortability to believe that you can do this without any kind of recourse from your actions. >> meanwhile, in cleveland, reaction's pouring in after a grand jury decided not indict two police officers involved in the shooting death of a 12-year-old boy. joining me here in stud owe is alan vinegrad, former federal prosecutor. as we delve into this and heard from the prosecutor yesterday, you know, giving their words and the grand jury's decision not to charge these two officers, you also considered a perfect storm of human error. put the two guns together, the real gun, pellet gun and look very, very similar. when's the challenges of prosecuting a police officer in the home district? >> it's very difficult to
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criminally prosecute police officers for their split second decisions in the line of duty. including the use of deadly force. most people presume that officers carry out their responsibilities lawfully so i think it takes a lot for prosecutors to move the opposite. and when the evidence is uncertain, typically officers get the benefit of the doubt. >> interesting we live in a day and age and hear about officer involved shootings, a subsequent video coming out after and many, many cases we have seen, in this case, the prosecutor said, you know what? he even recommended that the charges not filed. this is what the cuyahoga county prosecutors had to say yesterday in that press conference. let's listen. >> based on the evidence they heard and the law as it applies to police use of deadly force, the grand jury declined to bring criminal charges against cleveland police officers timothy loehmann and frank
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garmback that was also my recommendation and the recommendation of my office after reviewed the evidence and the law. >> the police saying this is how we looked into it. given that, when do you start to consider, hey, maybe a special prosecutor, the best interest of this case and fairness and the justice of it, the special prosecutor should be appointed? >> look. people would probably get more confidence in the system if they thought that somebody truly independent from the process looking into these cases but at the end of the day they're going to be decided based on the law and the evidence. and certainly sounds like this prosecutor put forth a great deal of evidence before this grand jury. some of that can be criticized. for example, the officer's version of events was evidently put to the grand jury but not tested by cross-examination because they invoked the fifth amendment rights and didn't testify. one can question that was the appropriate way to proceed. in addition, this prosecutor evidently got expert evidence to
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support the reasonableness of the officers' actions. unclear how much evidence on the other side of that equation was put to the grand jury, as well. you know? that plus the fact it took over a year i think created more questions than perhaps was necessary given the evidence in the case because the evidence in the case when you examine it was pretty much what you said before. everything that could have gone wrong in this situation did in terms of the information that the officers had at the time which did not include that it was a 12-year-old boy. did not include that it was a toy gun. had they known that, this whole situation could have been avoided. >> former u.s. attorney, thank you very much for being with me. thank you. breaking news overseas in the fight of isis, senior isis leader with direct links to the master mind of the paris attacks is killed in an airstrike. the pentagon says the syrian-based militant actively planning other western attacks. he is just one of ten isis-linked terrorists killed this month alone in airstrikes according to pentagon.
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earlier today the spokesman for the pentagon's operation against isis spoke about them. >> it's important to know that all of these terrorists had eventual designs on attacking the united states. let's be clear about that. that's what they want to do. as far as the stage of their attack planning, we're not going to go into those details yet. because, you know, we want to preserve some of our options to continue striking these terrorists. >> we're covering this breaking stories on all fronts in london and also in washington. want to start with chapman bell monitoring developments from the london bureau. talk to me about this isis leader, the connection to the ringleader of the paris attacks and the others killed, as well. >> well, frances, we know this one in particular isis leader killed in syria on the 24th of december named charaffe al mouadan said to have direct ties with the paris attacks
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abdelhamid abaaoud and he was actively planning attacks against the west. abdelhamid abaaoud was, of course, killed in a gun battle with french security authorities days after the paris attack that is killed 130 people. colonel warren today delivering this information about these ten successful strikes saying that these people had plans to attack the west and has you heard him say the terrorists had eventual plans of attacking the united states and colonel warren also said about isis the organization is losing its leadership. as he put it, the military are striking at the head of the snake and they haven't severed the head of the snake yet. it's till got fangs. and there's much more fighting to do. but news of these ten successful airstrikes against this leadership this month alone along with the news just one day after the iraqi military success in ramadi clearing that isis
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from that government complex with u.s. airstrikes is a positive couple of days for u.s. air power in the fight against syria, both in iraq and syria. frances? >> all right. chapman bell from london, thank you very much. want to bring in now msnbc national security analysis kevin barren and edder of the defense one. appreciate your time here and getting new information from the pentagon this afternoon. let's talk about the significance of this list, the ten who were killed and also the lack of captures and how are we losing something there in not capturing them as far as intelligence goes and what we can gain from getting some of these guys alive? >> well, that's right. there's a lot happening today. this is the weekly tuesday briefing that colonel warren gives from baghdad. they're waiting for this day and the pentagon has something to announce. a public relations moment. over the weekend, if you remember, new polling out from americans saying they think isis is winning the war, at least the
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messaging behind the war and we hear about the victories going on and we heard of the ramadi offensive, as well. so, go back a couple weeks to the president making the speeches, went to the pentagon and even the month before with ash carter saying that the u.s. was going to step up its special ops raids for capture and kill missions and airstrikes targeting isis leadership. here's the end of december and the pentagon, frankly, waited until the end of the month to announce the ten and they announced in one big trench, ten guys and pretty significant, some of them. there's a deputy finance minister, someone in charge of ieds, several that had designs on the west according to the pentagon. all coming out at once to show the american public that the administration is, you know, doing good by its word, trying to make some progress here with the goals. >> you have the administration doing that on the domestic front and the global front and the
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terror threat there, you have belgium police who appear to have that warted an attack. living in this world srks that a sign that this is how they have been stepping up, how intelligence globally is stepping up in combatting the threat of terrorism and finding those guys out there planning these attacks? >> absolutely. so you saw after paris declaration that the u.s. was going to be sharing intelligence a lot more, higher level, with the french and other governments. and the pursuit of anyone involved in the paris attacks been a big part of that. and go back to what you mentioned at the top of captures. so we have authorities, law enforcement authorities, in western countries going after guys like these trying to capture them, some cases killing them in the ops missions moving in. compare it against the president's announcement of more kill, capture missions on the battlefield and an announcement of ten kills and not captures
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and that's what i asked steve warren afterward. he said no captures yet by the u.s. military. >> all right. thank you very much. >> you bet. in the race for 2016, hillary clinton just wrapped up a town hall in new hampshire. she spent about an hour answering questions from people in portsmouth. we'll head there for a look at where the fight for voters stands.
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now to crunch time in new hampshire. just six weeks to the day until the all-important presidential primaries there. hillary clinton appeared in portsmouth moments ago six days before her husband hits the campaign trail in the gra nis state. she avoided drump's attacks on her and former president clinton and focused on women's pay and gun control. paul steinhauser joins me now and now the landscape of this race, especially there in the
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granite state. now when you have the new attacks, donald trump versus the clintons and bill clinton stepping up and hitting the campaign trail that we'll see next week. how's the landscape changing in this week? >> it's been, you know, if we thought it was a quiet holiday week, anything but that with donald trump making news at the rally and now going after the clintons at a week from yesterday you're going to have as you said bill clinton and donald trump just about 20 miles away from each other and you could call it duelling rallies and looks like the general election is under way and donald trump gets to attack new tar gets and attacking hillary clinton sometime and now bill clinton and making the news right on your network on the "today" show this morning. >> it is interesting you bring it up and something i read earlier said it's the lull between the holidays, before the new year that this may be donald trump being strategic saying
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let's stay in the hold lines and maybe let me ramp up those attacks now. your take on that strategy on his camp knowing that there's some saying this may do it and for donald trump and knowing the popularity of bill clinton, especially. >> yeah, but you know, donald trump is running in the republican primary and they're not fans of bill or hillary clinton even in new hampshire. attacking hillary clinton and now bill clinton in the mix, this's going to only energize his supporters. may turn off moderate republicans an he doesn't need them right now to win in this state. i mean, with a 14 candidate or down to 13 candidate republican field, 20% or 25% is enough abe i think donald trump knows what he is doing and he talked last night saying i've been going stir crazy and didn't have the events and i think he was map pi to get back on the trail and start speaking his mind. >> interesting on the other side. so you have that attack trump of
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clintons and marco rubio versus jeb bush there. and especially with the whole, you know, mentor-protege relationship and they have new hampshire and the fight there. talk to me a little bit about how that is resonating, especially with new hampshire voters. >> yeah. we have seen a lot of jeb bush up here. he's been really making new hampshire a main focus lately. the superpac right to rise is advertising up here nonstop spending tens of millions of dollars in this state and seen jeb bush on the trail and tv. but his campaign, not languishing and not really taking off and kind of right around 9%, 10%. marco rubio, eastbound though he's not spent a lot of time here, picking up the pace now and the numbers rising. there's excitement about marco rubio among that side of the republican electorate, side of the electorate here in new hampshire that doesn't want donald trump. frances? >> we'll see how that changes with donald trump saying $35 million under budget saying he'll spend big with iowa and new hampshire and south
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carolina. we'll see there. paul, thank you very much. donald trump is targeting former president bill clinton with the new comments and tweets about his history with women and this is what we're asking you. is bill clinton's past fair game in the 2016 campaign? previous update showed that 72% voted, yes. 28% voted, no. how are we voting now? how are you voting, i should say? the yeses dropped to 68%. no, 32%. you can cast your vote at pulse.msnbc.com. speculation still swirling around peyton manning. the nfl star continuing to deny doping allegations. comments of a journalist of the report raising ques of the broncos q kb and his wife. (vo) some call it giving back. we call it share the love.
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new developments today on an al jazeera documentary that describes peyton manning's wife
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getting human growth hormone. this morning on "today" the reporter on the documentary emphasized it never alleged manning used hgh. >> let's assume that hgh sent to mrs. manning. aside from the recanted statement of charlie, do you have specific evidence that peyton manning has ever taken hgh. >> we have not said that in the program. >> you are not alleging he took the substances? >> the only allegation is that growth hormone was sent repeatedly from to ashley manning in florida. >> so it sounds like your documentary doesn't have any evidence against peyton manning. >> we are not making the allegation against peyton manning. >> joining me now is travis waldren for "huffington post." appreciate your time with me. i want clarification with the article you co-authored saying that the clinic supplied manning with hgh but you have the
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reporters of al jazeera there saying the documentary never states that. so what exactly is the allegation as it relates directly to peyton manning? >> well, i think it's always been clear from the documentary's perspective that it was going to manning's wife. charlie sly the physician in the documentary who sort of makes the allegation is the one who insinuates that it was going through ashley manning to peyton. he says we shipped it to florida, always in ashley's name, never in peyton's. so the insinuation was there. it was never really clear cut. that's never been a smoking gun there. in the documentary that it was going to peyton manning. >> all right. so, when it comes to this, and as far as putting this to bed, some say, you know what? if ashley manning came out right after these allegations are made public saying we never received anything, peyton or ashley, do you think that would have put a rest to it? >> i think that would probably go a long way because the al
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jazeera reporters if you listen to the other interviews said that peyton manning's not denied that specific allegation going to ashley. they have said it's a violation of her privacy or that her matters are not for public consumption or connected to peyton manning. i think it would probably go a long way to put it to bed but it is out there and waiting for answers or the next step. >> we are hearing from peyton manning's spokesman ari fleischmann and denied the allegations with a connection of hgh and this is the statement saying this, after the appearance on "today" show saying al jazeera is backtracking and retreating. within hours of the broadcast, davies is contradicting her own reporting. truth to that? >> i don't think so. i think there's one way to look at it as backtracking if you don't watch what they say in the
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documentary. largely charlie sly who was the one that makes the allegation and i talked to them today in an interview for another story and kind of what they reiterated to me was that they reported what charlie sly said and didn't make the allegation themselves. >> all right. we'll see where the allegations go from there or hearing address of the mannings. thank you. appreciate it. >> thank you. before we go, little preview of thursday night's new year's eve celebration. today the confetti test at the hard rock cafe and they throw out the confetti. released then and midnight on new year's and contain handwritten wishes submitted in times squareality the new year's eve wishing wall. the celebration's famed waterford crystal ball installed sunday and much awaited descent tested tomorrow at noon but if you're anywhere around times square see the security and all the preparations leading up to the big event.
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hello, everyone. i'm ayman mohyeldin in for kate snow. we begin this hour with breaking news out of missouri and an evacuation order under way for residents in west alton north of st. louis due to the dangerous rising waters of the mississippi river, flooding as much as a foot of rain fall over the past three days. officials say so far 13 people died as a result of the severe weather there and just in the last few minutes, nixon activated the national guard. the director of the missouri office of emergency joins me. we may have lost him. his connection. we'll get back in touch with him
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shortly n. a moment. let's move on. continuing with the deadly winter storm that ripped through much of the country's plains and mid section over the past week is now making its way into the northeast. and it's promising a dangerous mix of snow, sleet and floods. more rain is in the forecast in places like alabama and georgia where rain has already caused mud slides and we could also see record crests of stretches of the mississippi river, very rare for this time of year. meanwhile, in northern texas, cleanup under way. three days after those deadly tornadoes swept through the area killing 11 people and leaving behind complete devastation. we'll get the very latest on that in a bit. but first, let's check in with nbc's ron mott in massachusetts getting the first real taste of winter. ron, how bad is it looking up there? >> reporter: good afternoon to you. the worst has come and gone with this storm. we still have a few little flurries around in the air and the real concern going forward

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