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. can you imagine bush? he spent $59 million and he's at 3. you know what, see this woman in the front row? very attractive woman. you would been at seven and not have spent that. it's true. >> see this woman in the front row. god, it keeps getting better. good morning. it's wednesday, december 30th. welcome to morning joe. i'm nicole wallace alongside. >> unbelievable. they let us back on. >> they must not have cable where they're staying. nbc news senior white house correspondent chris jansing is also here thank goodness. also casey hunt president and ceo of the national urban league and former mayor of new orleans.
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great matt louis. we have a lot of ground to cover this morning. the on going game when it comes to fighting terrorist and inreceiver gents ft reports this morning that the taliban now hold more territory in afghanistan than any year since 2001. plus when police commissioners fight. >> those comments were outrageous. my cops work hard, very hard to reduce gun violence in the city. for him to denigrate that hard work and claim it's unfashioned we're playing with the numbers. shame on him. let him back up that allegation. he's been too busy to respond to all of you. if you're going to make it, stand up, be a big man and
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explain what you're talking about. you don't need a follow up on it. get ready to challenge. >> we'll speak with new york city police commissioner, bill bratten about why he's so angry at former new york police commissioner. we'll speak to the legal analyst about what's in store for him and his mother. let's begin with the race for president that's turned out to an all out food fat. >> i tell you, blink and you wake up and your blackberry has 500 e-mails. you know where we're going to start, right. donald trump. >> give it to us. >> back in iowa last night inviting reporters aboard his plane for a prerally press conference where he previewed plans for his spending. >> i'll be spending a minimum of
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2 million a week. i'm going to be doing big adds in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and they're going to be very substantial and i think they're very well done. i've seen the first two or three of them. we're proud of them and we're going to be talking about a lot of thing including the boarder, trade, isis, security for the country. we're going to be talking about a lot of things. you're saying i'm $35 million under budget. i thought as of january i would spent that much but i've spent nothing. >> the new york times reports trump has yet to reserve the television time according to two independent media buyers. it's not clear what trump is waiting for because the price goes up the longer he waits and he likes to save money. the leading republican also talked about his relationship with the clintons. after declaring the president's
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past and he also said his own past is inbounds and he would be an inclusive leader. >> yes, it would be. hillary brought up sexism. if she wants to do that, we'll go right after the president, the ex-president and see how it all comes out. i feel very confident it will come out well for us. >> you invited the clintons to your wedding. >> it's really important to understand that donald trump is a world class business man and i am. you have to get along with everybody. you want democrats, liberals, republicans and conservatives. i owed it to myself, my family, my accompany, my employees to
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get along with everybody and i always have gotten along with everybody. i want to get along with everybody. >> how are people suppose to take away your message? >> i tell you what, i'm somebody that's extremely inclusive. i want people to get along. we have a president that's dividing our country. terribly divided our country. i'm going to bring people together and you're going to see wonderful things happen to our country. >> it's a cross over from democrats. you have a lot of democrats. you have very fine people. they want to see our country succeed and be successful. we're going to have tremendous cross over from democrats. they don't want hillary with the
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scandals and all of the things. who wants another four years like that. believe me, women, i'm all in favor of some day, it shouldn't be hillary. shouldn't be hillary. >> one more thing we want to show you from last night. donald trump brought along his childhood bible to the rally in iowa where the resent polling shows him trailing cruz and he took a not so subtle hit at cruz. >> i want to win iowa. again, the evangelicals, the tea party, we're doing unbelievable. i love the people of iowa. they have the same values i have and i want to win. we're going to give it our best, okay. just remember this.
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just remember this. you got to remember in all fairness, to the best of my knowledge not too many evangelicals come out of cuba, okay. just remember that. just remember. in all fairness, here we are, just remember that, folks. >> nicole wallace, a lot to deal with there. is it that simple? you appeal to evangelicals bri g bringing your childhood bible and reminding them not a lot of evangelicals come from cuba. >> if we know anything about trump it's none of the old rules apply. typically, the state of iowa is an operational game with extraordinary attention to deta detail. we'll see. i have to -- >> the rule of consistency doesn't imply. i am an inclusive leader yet
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you're demonizing people of latin descent and muslims and you make mocking sort of references to the idea of a woman president. is that inclus snif. >> was he mocking women or hillary? i could see it both ways and with trump it's fair he was saying any woman, not hillary. >> you got to read the tone. here it is in talking about ted cruz, he wanted to make a point he's of cuban descent. look, there's a lot of subtleties and signals and symbolism. there's a lot of code in this language. so it's not credible to suggest on one hand i'm going to be inclusive and on the other hand have a running daily, if you will, invective insult against each and every one. >> i like to say as he was
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defending his invitation to his wedding it was the idea he does business with these people. it's the most absurd reason to invite someone to your wedding. >> and casey, you were commenting about that. >> there's media also attended donald trump's wedding. >> not me. >> i wasn't the ring bearer. >> he's become comfortable with this. trump has over many, many years spent all kinds of times cording people in the media and power brokers in new york city. >> don't you think it's ironic because that's the temperament you need if you're going to be an effective leader. you need to not care about
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ideology and work with the competiti competition. now that he's in the political arena, it's the exact. >> now talking about winnings, not about the economy and isis. not about the future. >> let me bring in matt louis who wrote a column with my family about a deal ahead of the trump supporters at the dinner table on christmas and thanksgiving family dinners. it's advice i needed. weigh in on all the topics we've been talking about. >> first of all, trump supporters happen in the best of families. >> thank you. even my own and i normally don't advocate injecting politics into christmas, new years, family time. i think we need to make an exception in this case. it's time to have an intervention with those family members. i had a reader who wrote in and said he confronted his father-in-law about things donald trump was saying like
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commenting on hillary clinton's bathroom break during the debate. saying would you do that and say to about your wife or daughter and forcing these conservative people they're supporting a guy whose not conservative and sits and does radical things. that's one of the remaining questions, once we get time to cap votes, do conservative voters get more serious and says does donald trump think it's more fun and we're going to turn to someone else and now it's an argument for ted cruz who looks like he's a responsible leader. >> it's also interesting to see this tactical shift now.
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>> he gives a good speech, marco. i want to hear his speech that's going to try to persuade people on the florida senate not to vote. he was totally opposed to it and didn't go to vote no. only in washington do you have the guts to stand up and say you're against something and not go. dude, show up to work and vote no. just show up to work and vote no. if you don't want to then quit. >> i'm running for president because i want to change the direction of the country. candidates, i think as we get down the stretch they get desperate and nasty in their attacks. but that's fine. we're going to continue to campaign. >> rubio's attendance record
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came under fire. >> marco rubio was missing fundraising in california instead. a whole day before the rest of the senate learned information i already knew it. >> attacking governors chris christie and john kasich. there's acknowledgment on the part of the republicans there's
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somebody verses trump so we got to go against somebody and figure. >> that's one thing we should look at. that add that's going after marco rubio is airing in iowa, not new hampshire that bush must win state and what that tells you is there's a sense growing among republicans. that's what new hampshire voters are seeing. i think also you heard chris christie was campaigning in iowa. making that exact same attack. >> they all believe that you've got to have a race for third in
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io iowa. >> the other thing worth noting is they said rubio's advisers ran an add that the attendance records. perhaps there's a track record for success. i was shocked. i don't know. maybe i'm wrong with how cookie cutter that add was. they took stockpile footage and threw it together this is a powerful message that one has not shown up in the senate. >> i don't think it res ignites that much. if you had, the national polls, if you add up donald trump, ben
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carson and ted cruz, you get around 70% of the vote right now and you have a combined three years of elected experience with the three candidates. i don't think it necessarily hurts him. i think there's a really interesting concerning trend out there right now if you're advocating for somebody what would be more traditional, thoughtful conservative to win, the so-called establishment lane even though i kind of differ with that wording. we just saw donald trump take this shot at ted cruz. really, i think cruz is going to coast to victory in iowa. you have christie and kasich and bush and rubio really going. it's very well could split.
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>> they ask why you don't show up for the senate votes. nothing that happens there is important. i think this is more important than people thought. the newspaper in florida calling for him to give up the defense. >> barack obama called for him to do the same thing. >> the guys watching the attack about attendance aren't showing up for their own jobs. >> all the traditionally, you're going to go after the front runner for the person that you believe is in the way of you finishing high and one of the challenges of an attack is you
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can attack somebody and take him down but that doesn't mean the vote comes to you. >> still ahead, new york city police commissioner bill bratten joins the table. plus the police officers involved in the death of a 12-year-old. and also the most combustible mixture we have. we'll talk about an eye opening report. first let's turn to meteorologist bonnie schneider with a look at the severe weather across the country. >> good morning. one of the huge threats we're watching is the mississippi river in the st. louis area. you can see the river is rising and we're expecting the crest to occur tomorrow in and around the st. louis area at record levels. elsewhere across the country, we're attacking some warm conditions and the threat for flooding along areas of the southeast. not as bad as the mississippi.
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temperatures in new orleans hit 62 degrees. we got 38 degrees in st. louis and 30 in chicago. we're going to start to see some of the cooler weather work its way into the forecast as we wrap up the new year. temperatures mild in new york for times square as the ball looks. looking for nice conditions there. much greater weather to the midwest. stay with us, morning joe will be back after this. santa has a magic snow globe for every family. and this year, look at what he put in our driveway. the lexus december to remember sales event is here. lease the 2016 es350 for $349 a month for 36 months and we'll make your first month's payment.
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former governor jeb bush changed in his resent town hall.
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>> it was the act of a deranged person. the tranl did is that unfold the aurora case where the guy was just put in prison for life. all of these cases are related to not an organized effort but derangement. severe mental illness, crazy people that have access to guns and kill people. i don't consider it the same. they're both tragic. they're both heart breaking but one is a threat to western civilization and our way of life and the other is a problem we have to deal with in a completely different way. >> the threat of prima si may not be as large as the threat now. >> hang on a minute. you're putting words in my mouth. i'm not diminishing the act of a kid going in a black church and
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killing people. is that a threat to national security? it's a threat but not to national security. >> comparison to aurora and newtown is my problem. >> such an interesting exchange. >> there's a lot of really thoughtful conversations going on but this one was unexpected. >> this one calls himself a paragraph candidate in a twitter world. this exemplifies that.
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they're willing to acknowledge. >> i think charleston was about a hate crime. some of the statements indicated he had a racial animist. you did see bush being who jeb bush is. thoughtful and listening to the question and not just bombarding the question with ret rehetoric. i looked for a missed governor and this is what he was like in the state. he would go to unexpected places for a republican and before he walked out the door he would have changed his mind and called his cabinet members and made adjustments in policy. i think it's the most appealing thing about him as a politician
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and the most difficult thing to transit late on the campaign trail and twitter. >> especially in this campaign. you're running against someone like donald trump. we rarely take the time to listen to an extended exchange. it's going to be the one clip of him saying something. >> when we have 10 candidates it creates a different debate. people struggle for focus and attention and trump's bombast has captured the attention of the public and the media in this race.
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councilman jeff johnson tweeted about his request adding it's not time to move on and the process and decision not to indict must be changed nonviolently. the police chief says the committee will start from scratch beginning with the initial calls to 911. meanwhile, more protests in cleveland last night. demonstrators met at the justice center and then marched through the city's downtown area carrying signs and chanting. >> let's pick up a new york times saying cruz's change. the police have historically
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behaved as an occupying force that shoots first and ask questions later. to grow a blackmail in such a place with forces that inspire to kill you. those forces hovered over the precedings monday when a grand jury declined to indict officer loehmann in the killing. >> this is a stunning incident when i first saw it on video and i think the decision of the grand jury defies logic and common sense. >> i disagree with you. grand juries are set up in a way to not essentially go after cops. that doesn't defy logic. the problem with this for me is it's all too logical. >> here's the common denominator. if you look at that prosecutor and the prosecutor in ferguson
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and sta ton island and compare it with the prosecutor in brooklyn, you have prosecutors who went before the grand jury and didn't recommend charges. i can tell you so much who practice criminal law and been involved that the idea that prosecutors will go into a grand jury and say do whatever you want and not recommend, not suggest and not if you will guide the grand jury to bring charges is where the process is broken. i think these prosecutors are political politically. >> do you have to take them out of the district? >> no. i think independent prosecutors and special prosecutors would be a course of action. i think modifying federal law to give, if you will federal prosecutors a first blush, first chance at it. let's look at it in comparison to political corruption cases.
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no one waits for the local d.a. to bring a charge against shelly or dean. it was given that those charges, that investigation ought to be conducted in the federal sector. i think we're at that point. >> decides the u.s. department of federal justice failed to bring charges. >> we have no reasonable changes in the law. we're using an 1870s law, if you will, to try to prosecute police misconduct in the 21st century. if we're really going to be serious, it was striking to me that in 2015, 1,000 citizens had been killed by the police. 1,000. certainly, there's a large segment of those we justify. in very few cases the protests
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and concern is about the accountability. if a police officer crosses a line, should they be given the benefit of all doubt or be just like anyone else not above all law. >> you have all this technology with the video cameras and there's more police officers being charged and very few see jail. one of the issues is that the law seems to give them the benefit of the doubt. much more to talk about today. still ahead on morning joe. >> i'll just add that margaret thatcher once said if you want something talked about, ask a man. if you want something done ask a woman. >> we'll talk about how conservatives are trying to flip the script in just a moment.
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a beautiful sight, we're happy tonight ♪ ♪ watching in a winter watchlist land, ♪ ♪ watching in a winter watchlist land! ♪ xfinity's winter watchlist. watch now with xfinity on demand- your home for the best entertainment this holiday season. joining us now is the president of the republican group and the founder of the women's national converse sags group sarah chamber lain. she was a piece on the 2016 race and a voice of women in the republican party. we were so happy to have you here. tell us about the group. tell us your personal story about how you came to find it. >> thank you for having me. i'm thrilled to be here. this was founded about two years
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ago. i realized i was one of the only women in the country that ran a republican group. we decided to let's go out and tour the country and talk to women and find out what their issues are. we have two members of congress. it started in north carolina and we have grown across the country and women have the same issues and by the way, every issue is a woman's issue. so we talk about everything from isis and national security to education reform to corporate individual tax reform to mental health issues. so we gather all the information, we talk with them and then we come back and try to really do something about these issues. >> sarah, i want to ask you about two things in the article.
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one, i love that you talk about representing the governing wing of the republican party. i hope they prevail here. i love this quote. this is my experience as well. you say quote we have never been asked a social issue question. >> it's true, right. women don't come up to you and want to tell you about their views of abortion. you talk about the disconnect in the media about social issues dominating women's political concerns. >> it's a misconception. we have now talked over 1,100 women. not one question. they submit them online plus since the new york times article came out, i heard from hundreds more women again. no social issues. we are past the social issues. we are really focussing on the economic issues and the issues are important to our families. that's what's driving the women in this country and that's what should be driving the national
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agenda. we should stop talking about social issues and talk about issues in general. nicole, as you and i said earlier, all issues are women's issues. >> let me ask you, this is chris jansing. i want to ask you about the wall street journal in the news now. quote, donald trump last week used course language to describe hillary clinton who responded by accusing mr. trump of sexism wha while announcing -- trump is now attacking hillary. mrs. clinton wants to use her gender as a political sword and shield to win the white house. she ought to stop playing the sexism card or drop bill as a
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surrogate or both. is this something that resinates with women? there's two school s of thought here. one is hillary clinton has already been litigated. when it happened her personal ratings went up. where do you think all of this is going or does it matter at all? >> well, to be honest with you, we toured the country and it doesn't seem to matter at all. we do not get questions about do we need a woman as president, you know, is the gender playing a key part? it really goes back to the issues and the person that is talking about the issues that the women care about is the person they're going to vote for. no matter if they're male or female. >> i think that's something, i don't know about you but i hear all the time the idea that they're going to vote for her because she's a woman. having said that, they love the idea of a break through candidate and want a woman. to think they're going to vote for someone.
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>> you hear from bernie sanders as well he wanted to get a question in. we're going to put him on the bench like you did, sarah. sarah, i hope you'll come back and tell us what you're seeing and hearing out there. peace out. thank you very much. up next, we'll make it up to you. the teenager who gained notoriety has been found and expected to be brought back to the united states today. he called to order a pizza in mexico to help authorities find him. nbc legal analyst lisa green joins us next for what's next in his case and his mother. whatcha doin?
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there are new details on the teenager known for using the
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fatal teenager. the teen failed to appear for a meeting with his probation officer earlier this month and expected to appear in juvenile court when the two touchdown on american soil. his mother going to be charged with lend wering apprehension. let's bring in msnbc legal analyst. author of the book on your case and think the mom is going to need your book. in the meantime, she actually at least on the surface could face more jail time, prison time than her son does for people killed in the accident. tell us where the legal case stands now. >> currently, authorities are going to spend their new year's
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holiday pouring through the criminal code looking for any other charge they can bring against the teenager. it stands now he'll serve the same amount of time, about four months for violating probation he would have served if they caught him at a bar down the street. it doesn't matter they fled to mexico. his authorities are stuck with this violation so they want to throw the book at this kid and at his mom. the most important event happens on or around his 19th birthday. in april, authorities want to transfer him to adult court where finally he would face the double consequences. >> it's an outrageous and totally incredible story. his kid was drunk. he plowed into a group of people who stopped to help someone on
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the road side. teens do get into dwi accidents. more often than not dwi defend nts would face charges in this course. it's rarely invoked and after this case it will probably never be invoked again. they were successful, he got probation. >> his defense is some might not be familiar with what it is. >> it's a sort of new income and equality take on the classic offense. here's a teenager improperly parented and didn't know right from wrong and doesn't deserve to suffer punishment. >> mental intent, that's the fun part. >> that's right. these are defense lawyers.
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it's their job to try to defend their clients. here a particular judge decided i'm in the juvenile system. the point is to rehabilitate and not to punish. in many cases not this guy. that's appropriate. this wasn't a kid who could be rehabilitated and he has a mother who doesn't seem to want to back. >> what is the legal punishment he faces for ordering pizza in new mexico? because that's a crime. >> the other thing is they think they can get away with it. she said fugitives means all the difference. which by the way is filled with american tourist who may have seen these pictures. >> he's not going to win an
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award for the genius thinking. the christmas part is clever. >> why didn't they three south of france? your taxpayer dollars paying for this kid and their mom to be op relended and moved back to texas. i don't know about you but i want to take a gavel and slam it against the dust a few times. >> lisa green, thank you so much. bill bratten joins the table and also mike tyson goes down for the count. he wasn't boxing ch. the former heavy weight champion of the world and the former victim of a hover board. ♪ hi mom! hi! every mom is a coach...
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heavily weight champion of the world mike tyson knocked to the ground in seconds by his daughter's pink hover board. >> daddy, don't fall. >>. [ laughter ] >> oh. >> oh. wow. >> tyson tweeted it seemed like the end. words of the wise. >> i've ridden one of those things. >> have you? how hard is it? >> it's difficult. i didn't fall like that. >> but you fell a little bit. >> parents of america, stay away. >> like 50% of people end up with very serious injuries. >> isn't they're a congressman. >> that looks cool until you fall. >> it's like a free ride.
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the bush campaign is ringing in 2016 with a new web add. both donald trump and jeb bush are campaigning in south carolina with bush holding a meet and greet in lexington while trump holds a morning rally on hilton head island. welcome back to morning joe. joe, mika, and willie have the morning off. i'm nicole wallace. we've decided they don't have cable wherefore they are. from the huffington post nbc
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white house correspondent chris jansing. >> can i tell you you're a powerful woman. louis told me this morning keeping it all to go. keep repeating that. >> i think the power is in your hands. but the ceo of the national urban league mark and msnbc political correspond nt casey hunt. still with us columnist at the week, sorry, matt. matt lose is joining the conversation and political reporter for the washington post and msnbc political analyst. hope that one sticks too. it's deserved. >> let's start with donald trump. >> let's do it. >> he was back in iowa last night inviting reporters aboard his plane. >> i'll be spending a minimum of $2 million a week and perhaps substantially more than that.
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>> where? >> i'm going to be doing big adds in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina and they're going to be very substantial and i think they're very well done. i've seen the first two or three of them. we're very proud of them. we're going to be talking about a lot of things. including the boarder, trade, isis, security for the country. we're going to be talking about a lot of things. i'm $35 million under budget. i thought as of january 1st, would have spent $35 million on adds. i've spent nothing. >> spent nothing. while trump is talking about a budget and adds ready to go, the new york times reports he hasn't reserved any television time and it's actually not clear what he's waiting for because the price goes up the longer he waits. trump also brought along his bible to last night's rally in iowa where resent polling shows him trailing ted cruz and he
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took this jab at senator cruz. >> i want to win iowa. again, the evangelicals, the tea party, we're doing unbelievable. i love the people of iowa. they have the same values i have and i want to win. so we're going to give it our best, okay. just remember this. just remember this. you got to remember in all fairness to the best of my knowledge not too many evangelicals come out of cuba, okay. just remember that. okay. just remember. in all fairness, here we are. just remember that, folks. >> let me bridge in robert. we're going to ask you, the trump whisperer here. i thought it was interesting last night he was doing kind of the expectations game suggesting that maybe he wasn't going to win and people would say he lost no matter what even if he came in at close second. i wonder what you make of the
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trumpisms over the last 24 hours or so. >> i was at trump tower for a couple of hours. trump flew to iowa reporting on the campaign trying to find out what the strategy is. my sense is talking to corapoey the campaign manager and he has to take on cruz. he doesn't want to take on cruz too forcefully. trump knows how important iowa is for setting up the dynamic of a campaign going into new hampshire and super tuesday. >> i love the waving around of the bible like that. dond trump bulking up his campaign in iowa. casey, you've been following the ground game and you have new reporting on that. >> first of all, to your previous point. i have a childhood bible. i do not have it with me. i think it takes more than waving it around if you're going to appeal to evangelicals in iowa. i think you heard from donald trump there talking about how it
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is very important for him to win in iowa. i think there's a growing sense as robert touched on that it's a place where he needs to perform at the expectations for him. as you know, the caucus process can be kind of intimidating and the question is whether or not these thousands of people can show up. we went to rapids to try to find out. >> we have an incredible ground gain. >> if trump is going to win iowa he has to turn his thousands of fans into something less glamorous. caucus goers. >> we want you to be what we call a caucus captain. >> in iowa, big crowds don't always transit late to a big win on caucus night. in 2012 rick san or the up won iowa with fewer than 20,000
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votes. trump's challenge, his thousands of supporters aren't traditional supporters who can be counted into caucus on a cold february night. >> trump's go big strategy is too. they spent months visiting iowa's every one of their 99 counties. >> that's just not donald trump's style. >> with a dash of celebrity, she's trump's iowa co-chair and a runner up on the apprentice. >> donald trump can't go to a pizza ranch. he can't just walk in. >> take ron and sally who told
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her they needed to meet trump to close the deal. >> they moved us through quickly for the pictures. >> will it be enough? maybe not. that makes the unglamorous work of organizing that much more important. >> but you are going to show up on february 1st to caucus. >> possibly. some of my business takes me elsewhere. >> so trump's campaign is looking at potentially unprecedented numbers of voters to try to get out. they've set a bar of 48,000 votes. >> how many people caucus total in iowa? >> well, about 148 out of 138,000 or so depending on the year. we had a record town out in 2012. that's when rick san or the up and mitt romney came within the votes. sanatorium won with 30,000 votes. in 2008 huckabee won with 40,000 votes. that's the x-factor here. all these other conservative campaigns, ted cruz building the
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aggressive ground organization, they'll tell you privately they know trump has some sort of ground game and going to be engaging these new voters. what they don't know is how many. >> let me jump in and bring in, sort of reminds me of howard dean in 2004 where all these massive crowds were happening in iowa and you expected something big to happen. he couldn't convert them into hard voters. do you see those similarities and analogy there? >> absolutely. in this point in 2003 you thought he was going to win. it's not just iowa with the caucuses. we thought in 2008, i think everybody thought barack obama was going to win new hampshire and obvious, that didn't turn out that way. we really don't know what's going to happen. i will say this. if i were betting, i'm going to
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bet on ted cruz. he's got the ground game and his evangelical flavor matches up much better with iowa than donald trump. the political grave wards are littered with the corpus's of candidates who tell us they're going to bring out new people that have never been brought out before. sometimes that happens. most of the time people with a history of voting and caucuses, show up on voting day. >> ted cruz has been working on his iowa infrastructure for how long? >> i would say at least six months. >> years, right. i've read some reporting. >> this is not something you can cram for. you cannot do this overnight. >> he has been doing this for years. i went pheasant hunting with cruz and steve king in 2013. even back then especially evangelical voters. >> just wait. i'm sorry but you went, say that
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sentence again. >> i went pheasant hunting with ted cruz and steven king. not as a social engagement. >> explain. we got our headline. >> i did not pick up a gun. i do not have a hunting license in the state of iowa. i do not. >> i got a question. what effect and this is a heavy add ver tieszing in iowa, television advertising spend in iowa. can it change the game? >> it can change the game. that said, it's unpredictable. i think it depends on where trump's strategy goes with the adds. >> you need to know who you're targeting and you need to
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recognize a dollar spent by a campaign is more valuable. >> it's going to be knowing whatever he spends on adds will get play on the media. that's his strategy to try to dominate the conversation. >> manipulating us is what you're saying. >> it's going to be the subject of next week's conversation. >> former new york governor has ended his bid for president. >> if we're truly going to make
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america great again, we need to elect the president who will do three things. confront and defeat radical islam. unite us again in our belief in this great country. while tonight is the end of my journey for the white house as i suspend my campaign for president, i'm confident we can elect the right person, someone who will bring us together and understands that politicians including the president must be the people's servant and not their master. i know the best of america is still ahead of this. >> spoke on nbc affiliates in new hampshire, south carolina and iowa using equal time he requested. the writing had long been on the wall for the governor struggling to save money. he had 30,000 cash on hand in his resent campaign filing and moved the needle in polls failing to get 50%. he missed the filing dead lines for key early states.
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still running a stripped down campaign he managed to stay in longer than scott walker by 100 days and i think he served an example of how different this campaign is. he's a really moderate guy who thought he could pick up traction for somebody to bring in the independent voters. >> exactly. he said in a show last night his failures in this cycle are as much an indication and symbol of how dramatically the republican party has changed. >> also, his timing has been off. he's been out of office eight years. his chance was as he was leaving the governor's office in new york, when you're out eight years and you try to. >> he ran that. this isn't his first offense. his campaign wasn't in many ways, i remember flying in airplanes with him. there was a press conference where literally not a single reporter asked a question. no questions, okay.
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i guess i'm going to exit. >> let's look at the wall street journal article likely to complicate already fragile relations. the paper reporting the white house eves dropped. sources tell the journal president obama allowed it to continue because it served a compelling national security purpose. this despite the president's announcement two years ago. the u.s. would no longer monitor friendly heads of state. >> i made clear to the intelligence community unless there's a compelling national security purpose. we will not monitor the communications of heads of state and government of our close friends and allies. i've instructed my national security team as well as the
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intelligence community to work with foreign counter parts and deepen our cooperation in ways we built trust going forward. we'll continue to gather information about contention of governments around the world. in the same way every other nation does. we will not apologize simply because our services may be more effective. >> leaders like turkey, french president were all excluded from monitoring. they knew their top aids were still seen as top gain. one other thing to note while eves dropping they reported they
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were coordinating with undecided members of congress about what it would take to get them to oppose the deal. the journal reports quote that raised fears and expletive moment one senior official said worrying that the executive branch would be accused of spying on congress. they coached u.s. american groups to get congress to oppose it. in our 8:00 a.m. hour we'll ask john kerby about this report. >> first things first. just a correction. the washington journal says air one was excluded from the protected list. >> what we said was aid. >> this was such a fascinating story. so many complexities to this. at least for me it's very difficult to figure out what to make of all this. on the one hand, the journal reports democrats and republican members of congress actually signed off on the spying of
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netanyahu when it pertained to the idea israel would launch a unilateral strike. in the end i'm coming away with the culture of spying in the country. there's benefits and serious dark sides to it. we haven't rap led in a row bust way in a country yet. i know the president had the speech and we had on the met data collection. >> what's interesting to me is we play this diplomatic game when we talk about whose fault it is. not only did we not stop spying on them like we stopped spying on the other leaders we mentioned. we ramped it up. we wanted to know exactly what the pr effort was going to be. the notion that diplomacy
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suffered because of the actions of either state frankly. >> they spied on us too. >> but relations deteriorated because we were listening to everything they were doing and the white house was engaging in an effort. >> also, they did actually run an aggressive pr campaign. >> this has been going on for a long time and now just coming to public life. the idea of spying on foreign leaders and us being spied on by other countries may be standard operating procedure. >> it has been for a very long time. >> by the way, it's a juicy, juicy story. none of the presidential and da candidates have weighed in on this. >> they were in an angry way. normally we would see them
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completely -- over this. it was the idea who was insnared was lawmakers course responding directly with israeli officials pushing them one way or the other. you'll remember what john boehner brought netanyahu up to the hill and there was a huge outcry standing up against the president of the united states from the floor of the house of representatives. there was a lot of discomfort. >> that's where the controversy is going to come up. they are routinely listened to when they talk to foreign leaders or staff of foreign leaders. >> mark, thank you so much for being here. matt lose, thank you, matt. up next, nbc's halley jackson joins us from the campaign
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today we face ever youing threats. radical islamic terror. a lunatic in north korea. a gangster in moscow and a president more respectful to iran than the prime minister of israel. our allies don't trust this. the world doesn't know where america stands. on day one of my presidency, that will change. >> that was the new adjust released this morning from the marco rubio campaign going on the air in new hampshire and the other early states on the theme of national security. joining us for our political round table here on set columnist for bloomberg view, margaret and mike allen. and in hilton head carolina, nbc
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correspondent halley jackson. good morning. we just heard from marco rubio on the threat of lunatics. are you dealing with that or another basket of goods altogether? >> reporter: we're out with trump today, nicole. donald trump is in hilton head. i will say national security comes up all the time. people are talking to us and candidat candidates. people want to hear what they have to say. he'll come out and be strong. >> you were out with trump on monday. what can you report from the trail? from the ice storm. >> the ice storm and snowstorm. he made it out before the rest
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of us did. he spends the first 20 minutes of any event going through poll numbers and he was a. >> only if they're good. >> he cheers up the crowd. >> that's such a good point. then he comes back and says isis, i want to defeat them. then he gets into the boarder and that cheers up the crowd
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tremendously. they came along with their husbands to the event. it's not that they were all great trump supporters. >> the thing that's happened recently outside of the trump universe is that basically, everyone's turned their fire on marco rubio. i'm curious, mike allen, let's bring you in. what's the deal? he's not running in first place in any state. he's in third place in many of them. why would jeb bush, krichris christie, all the others deciding this is the time to go against marco. >> on the trail we've seen in iowa and new hampshire they're really using marco as a punching bag. you're right. his numbers don't reflect the great coverage he gets. both christie and jeb bush and cruz to some degree too.
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we're going to see in the eight days between iowa and new hampshire because all the establishment candidates are all going to be competing in new hampshire. sam, what we're seeing now is setting the table for that week. >> hally jackson, the line of attack against rubio, so far seems to be his attendance record in the senate. is that anything you hear voters express concern about? >> here and there, it's funny. i was having a conversation with somebody in this location last night. you ask people about this and they heard about it and at this point it's not a concern necessarily folks bring up. when you say what's your worries
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about marco rubio, the answer is his experience and youth. when you ask about the mised votes they say not really, not yet. i think they get a chance to be on the campaign trail. this is yet again rubio on defense on his missed votes. it will continue to do so likely throughout the rest of the primary contest. you see guys like chris christie on this. christie reporting from matt who follows him. christie missed 60% his last year in office. >> it's the attack from chris christ christie. >> here's chris christie focussing on marco rubio's voting record while in iowa. >> he gives a good speech, marco. i want to hear his speech that's going to try to persuade people on the floor of the senate not to vote for this awful spending bill except he never showed up. he was totally opposed to it and
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didn't go there to vote no. only in washington could you have the guts to stand up and say i'm against something. dude, show up to work and vote no. >> i have a great percentage record and chris has been missing in new jersey for quiet sometime. candidates get a little desperate and nasty in their attacks. that's fine. we're going to continue to campaign on what i'm going to do when i'm president. >> the thing with inexperience comment and child reference he's going hard on his foreign policy
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defense. >> i think nicole is right. rubio has worked very hard to cultivate this. he's given a series of policy speeches extensively in the senate. his intelligence community. he's definitely somebody whose been very engaged. especially on that mccain-graham wing and he's starting to draw distinctions between himself and rand paul. >> so, mike, do you think in the rubio roll they perceive -- what do they see as the perceived weaknesses for the candidate? if they look at the field and say we need to patch up this
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part, what is that part? >> one of their worries is that he's another freshman senator which we just had eight years of. senator cruz is in the same boat. that's one of the reasons for emphasizing his intelligence, foreign policy, national security. it helps with the match up of secretary clinton. why would the rubio match up with secretary clinton is very favorable for him, the candidate of tomorrow. but in times when national security's front burner, he wants to show he can handle the job and sam and nicole, you were talking about whether or not the senator ideal resinates. as we talk to the campaigns, a very fascinating subliminal message for that. they think that's going to really sink in in new hampshire where they're also arguing that marco rubio isn't spending enough time.
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they're going to save these absentees from the campaign trail because he's spreading his time among iowa and new hampshire they're focussing . clinton devoted all his time to endorsing christie and then went after christie in new jersey and brought up bridge gate. obviously, now trump is worried about christie in new hampshire. he didn't mention rubio. >> i think trump is worried about whose ever most recently attacking him. >> way warmer than new hampshire. monday night when trump was there he laid into chris christ
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christie. he laid into jeb bush. it seems like donald trump will go after. you talk about donald trump and marco rubio heading to texas next week. he's been on the iowa swing. he's talked about the absentee. there is a sense that perhaps this will end up helping him. of course, he's not in washington. he wants to be an outsider and force change. this might actually play in his hand. >> hally jackson with a hard earned decree. thanks for coming in. mike allen, thanks to you as well. happy 16. >> new york police commissioner and states person john kerby are still ahead. plus bad turns to worse. death tolls and flood waters rise. the ones who labor for what they love. ♪
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the governor of missouri has the national guard to assist first responders and secure areas evacuated. >> you think did i, was i that uncaring that i didn't know people had to go through this. but it's devastating. >> they found the body of a fifth international soldier that went missing saturday evening. those soldiers are on assignment. in texas clean up continues following the nine devastating tornados in the dallas area over the weekend. according to the dallas morning news insurance claims reach $1 billion. damage assessment teams will be in the area today. republican presidential candidate ted cruz is also heading to texas this morning where he'll tour some of the damaged areas. meanwhile, the northeast is dealing with the winter storm.
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parts of new england saw inches of snow yesterday making for slick roads and slow commutes. look who joined the panel now. >> you've had some of the most eye popping reports on the political season. wh what are you looking at for the last 48 hours and looking ahead to 2016? >> the key question right now is trump's organization in iowa. i think he has a lot going on going to places without traditional voters and conservatives. also paying attention to the main stream in iowa. romney got a strong group of voters. >> and bush won in 2000. >> and people aren't following the mccain model. if someone can get a bounce out of iowa, maybe that helps with new hampshire. it's all about winning states. when i talked to steven, if you
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dontd win, you don't get momentum. >> so much to pay attention to. thank you. up next, was 2015 safer than the year before? well, it depends which new york city police commissioner you ask. up next, the current commissioner bill bratten joins us live after his predecessor accuses the city of playing with the numbers. we're back in a moment. it takes a lot of work... to run this business. but i really love it. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon. look for savings on boost® in your sunday paper.
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machine gun kelly, this is serious stuff. how safe is the city? you have hundreds of thousands of people who come here obviously for new year's eve but millions and millions of tourist. it's vital to not just the people who live here but the people who visit here. what's going on. >> it's been that way over the last 25 years. next year we'll report new york city had the safest crime year since the 1960s. >> but he said this because your cooking the books. >> basically, he is engaging in politics. as you know the first casualty of politics is usually the truth. mr. kelly is selling a book. new york post is reporting he's thinking of running for mayor.
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i stand by my current statistics because they are factual, they are the truth. everything he said yesterday in a statement we had refeuded and rebutted. the medical examiner of the city of new york he's happy to take them on relative to the allegation she's cooking the books relative to murders. everything that mr. kelly alleged we have changed nothing since the time he was police commissioner. so it's going to be up to him to prove his allegations. we stand by our current statistics and rise and fall on them. this is the safest scene in america. we will be reporting this year overall crime in down. >> then you would be comfortable if an investigation happened. >> even if daily news asserting maybe the inspector general should look at it. we can't trust the inspector general because he reports to the mayor. now we need an outside
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independent. what are we going to base these allegations on. the police commissioner we're refeuding categorically line by line. what are we going to investigate? any tom, dick and harry? he talks about he has a source within the police department to man up and divide the source. this is a former police commissioner basically dealing with tabloid politics. >> i suppose because mr. kelly did run the police force, it's presumed. >> that's right. this is more agree jous. >> it's presumed. >> it's presumed. it's an assumption. >> he was there and knows what's going on. >> he was there. he is no longer there. he was the police commissioner. i am the police commissioner. i know what we are doing. >> i guess to chris's point. if everything is so great and grand and the statistics are the statistics then what's the harm of having an independent party looking into this? >> come on down.
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every month i stand before the media in new york, the toughest media in the world and we talk about our current statistics every month. in his 12 years that never happened. every month we take our crime statistics we talk about. he's making a statement about homicides by guns are up this year. no surprise. however, homicide by stabbings are down this year. we have overall an increase of about 67 homicide against last year's record low number. last year was the lowest in the history of the city. >> commissioner, i'm a resident of new york city and grateful for the police department for keeping us safe and making us feel safe. do you deny that people feel a sense of unease and among the n.y.p.d. there's a sense they may not feel the backing they've had with previous mayors?
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>> the amount of crime committed by the street people is minimal but attracts a lot of attention because often times it involves a mentally unstable people. that is contributing significantly to this concern. however, this city is not invol now involved with the city over 25 years and we have 6 million a day ride the subways. i have six reported crimes a day on the subway. 8.5 million people live in the city. 60 million tourist. broadway attendance up. people might have a sense of unease but it's not stopping them from coming. >> you'll have 6,000 cops in the streets for new year's eve. >> just in times square. >> concentrating all on times square. >> people are nervous about coming in and they will be given what's happened in san bernardino and paris. what do you say?
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>> come on down. we're going to have the best party in the world. the new york times square new year's eve event is the iconic new year's eve event. we are the world's celebration of the new year. we'll have over a million people there and it will be very safe. let us worry about the security issue. come on down. have fun. >> what's happening in chicago, people are watching and wondering, you know, is there enough accountability and police forces. they look at what happened with rice and the prosecutor who didn't bring charges against the cops. you run a police force. how do you bring or accommodate the concerns there is no independent oversite or no apparent oversite? >> this is part of commissioner kel kelly's legacy. they have an inspector general and a federal monitor. we have a commission to combat police corruption. we have two u.s. attorneys, two
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of the most aggressive in america. we have five district attorneys. we have a lot of oversite in the n.y.p.d. >> looking at the eric garner situation, for instance, they wonder how was an officer like that allowed to go? the video was so repulsive to a lot of people. this guy joking saying he can't breathe. >> as you may call a grand jury looked at that and did not incite. >> that's the point. >> we have a process of laws. there are things that are going to happen. people might not like it but that's why we have laws and policies and process. there's no police department in america at this time that has manufacture ov more oversite. >> new york police commissioner bill bratten, happy new year. >> good luck on new year's eve. >> still ahead, he used his privileged up bringing to escape j jail time in a deadly drunk
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. there are new developments this morning in the controversial case of ethan couch who was captured along
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with his mother in mexico. the two were expected to touchdown on u.s. soil today. investigators are looking to see who may have -- where they were on the run. the local sheriff says they may have even thrown a goeing away party before the international man hunt began just weeks ago. we have the latest from ft. worth, texas. >> reporter: this morning, the so-called affluenza teen is in custody. the tarrant county district attorney says he may go free this coming april due to texas law. the case could be transferred from juvenile to adult court. but even then, a judge could only sentence him to 12 days in jail. >> based on what he allegedly did, should he face more time in jail? >> you know, he should face more time in jail because he killed
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four people. >> reporter: as for his mother, she faces a charge of aiding and abetting a felon. she could spend up to ten years behind bars. >> her entire focus has been on protecting ethan. her entire focus has been on making sure he didn't see any justice done, making sure he was notabilitible. >> reporter: the two-week international man hunt for the pair ended here at this apartment complex in puerto vallarta. this butcher told nbc that ethan couch had come into a shop. he noticed couch's hair dyed black and said the teen looked nervous and suspicious. couch's case drew worldwide attention after he killed four people near ft. worth while driving drunk in 2013. couch's attorney argued the then 16-year-old did not fully understand the difference between right and wrong due to his affluent upbringing. families of the crash victim rts
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now relieved the search is over. >> my clients are glad because it moves it to the next chapter of what's going to happy to him as opposed to hanging over their head, where is ethan. >> what do you say that offsets -- >> be very careful. >> up next, all's fair in love and politics. donald trump says what's good for the clintons is good for him when it comes to questions about past indiscretions. plus, hillary clinton uses a word she never would before when it comes to the islamic state. those stories in our next hour.
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can you imagine bush? he spent -- think of this -- $59 million -- and he's at three. you know what? see this woman in the front row. very attractive woman. you would be at seven and you wouldn't have spent anything, okay? it's true. >> see this woman in the front row. god, it keeps getting better. good morning, it's wednesday december 30th. welcome to "morning joe." i'm nicole wallace. >> they let us back on. >> they must not have cable where they're staying. alongside sam stien. >> hello. >> nbc news senior white house correspondent is also here. also msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt, president and ceo of the urban league, and in washington, senior contributor for the daily
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caller and columnist at the week, the great matt lewis. he's the author of "too dumb to fail," how the gop betrayed the reagan revolution to win elections. let's begin with the race for president that has turned into an all out food fight. >> you wake up in the morning and your blackberry has 500 e-mai e-mails. >> give it to us. >> back in iowa last night inviting reporters aboard his plane for a pre-rally press conference where he previewed plans for his campaign spending. >> i'll be spending a minimum of $2 million a week and perhaps substantially more than that. i'm going to be doing big ads in iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, and they're going to be very substantial. and i think they're very well
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done. i've seen the first two or three of them. we're very proud of them. we're going to be talking about a lot of things including the border, trade, isis and security for the country. we're going to be talking about a lot of things in these commercials. $35 million under budget. i thought as of january 1st, i would have spent $35 million on ads. i spent nothing. >> so he's talking about a budget now and these ads. the "new york times" reports trump has yet to reserve the television time. it's not clear what trump is waiting for because the price goes up the longer he waits. well, the leading republican candidate also talked about his relationship with the clintons. after recently declaring the former president's scandals with women fair game, trump also said his own past is inbounds. he said he would be an inclusive leader, a theme he repeated at his rally.
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>> going after former president bill clinton for his infidelity. >> yes, they would be. frankly, hillary brought up the whole thing with sexist and all i did is reserve it on her because she's got a major problem, happens to be right in her house. if she wants to do that, we're going to go right after the ex-president and we'll see how it all comes out. i feel very confident it will come out very well for us. >> you invited the clintons to your wedding in 2005, was it not -- >> it's very important to understand that one of the magazines recently said donald trump's a world class businessman. and i am. you have to get along with everybody. you wantliberals, i owed it to myself, to my family, to my company, to my employees to get along with everybody. >> were you concerned about having a guy that was -- what you call abusive -- >> i want to get along with
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everybody. >> you've pushed muslims away. david duke is now saying you are more radical than him. how are people supposed to take away your message -- >> i tell you what, i'm somebody that's extremely inclusive. i want people to get along. we have a president that's terribly dividing our country, and i'm going to bring people together. >> so is david duke wrong? >> david duke certainly would be wrong about that, yes. >> we're going to do great with crossover from democrats. because you have a lot of democrats. you have some very good, fine people. they want to see us be successful. we're going to have tremendous crossover from democrats. they don't want hillary with the scandals and all of the things. who wants -- who wants another four years like that? madam president, can you imagine? oh, oh. believe me, women, if it's got
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to be a woman, which i'm all in favor of some day, it shouldn't be hillary. it shouldn't be hillary. it shouldn't be hillary. [ applause ] >> one more thing we want to show you from last night. donald trump brought along his childhood bible to the rally in iowa where some recent polling shows him trailing senator ted cruz with the strong evangelical base. he took a not so subtle hit at senator cruz. >> i want to win iowa. i really want to win iowa. [ cheers and applause ] and again, evangelicals, the tea party, we're doing unbelievable. i love the people of iowa. they have the same values i have, and i want to win it. so we're going to give it our best, okay? and just remember this -- just remember this. you got to remember, in all fairness, to the best of my knowledge, not too many evangelicals come out of cuba.
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okay. just remember that. okay? just remember. in all fairness, here we are. just remember that folks. >> nicole wallace, a lot to deal with there. is it that simple? you appeal to evangelicals by bringing out what you say is your childhood bible and reminding them, i guess, that not a lot of evangelicals come from cuba? >> happens to be a -- >> if we know anything about trump, it's that none of the old rules a i apply. typically the state of iowa is an operational game. the person who mastered that is ted cruz. we'll see. your face during -- >> the rule of consistency doesn't apply. i am an inclusive leader, yet you demonize muslims -- >> which is a message to the faith-based audience, right? >> you're mocking references to
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the idea of a woman president. is that inclusive? >> was he mocking women, though, or mocking hillary? i could see it both ways. he was saying any woman, not hillary. >> when you suggest, quote, madam president. you got to read the tone. >> sure. >> the tone, now here it is in talking about ted cruz, he wanted to make a point that he's of cuban decent. there's a lot of subtleties. there's a lot of signals, there's a lot of symbolism, there's a lot of code in this language. it's not credible to suggest on one hand i'm going to be inclusive and on the other hand have a running daily, if you will, invective and insult against each and every -- >> i like this idea of inclusivity too. he was defending this invitation to his wedding, it was the idea that he does business with these people. it's like the most absurd
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reason -- as a married man -- >> exactly. and you were commenting at the table about just that. >> in fairness to many figures in the media also attends donald trump's wedding in 2005. >> not me. >> i was the ring bearer. >> he's clearly come to be comfortable with this as his explanation for why he associated with the clintons in the past. he has spent all kinds of time courting people in the immediate yarks power brokers in new york city. >> don't you think it's ironic? that's like the temperament you need if you're going to be an effective political leader. you need to actually work with the competition. now that he's in the political arena, it's the exact opposite. >> we're talking about weddings, not about the economy, not about isis, not about the future --
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we're talking about weddings. >> let me bring in matt lewis who wrote a column, had a deal with the trump supporters at the dinner table on christmas and thanksgiving family dinners, which was advice i needed. weigh in on the topics we've been talking about. >> trump supporters happen in the best of families. >> thank you. this feels like therapy. thank you. >> even my own. and i normally don't advocate injecting politics into, you know, christmas, knnew year's family time. it is time to have an intervention with those family members. i had a reader that said he essentially confronted his father-in-law about some of the things donald trump was saying, commenting on hillary clinton's bathroom break during the debate. and saying, would you do that, say that about your wife or daughter. and really confronting, forcing these conservative people to
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confront the fact that they're supporting a guy who's not conservative and says and does radical things. once we actually get time to cast votes, do conservative voters all of a sudden get a little more serious and say it was fun, the donald trump thing has been fun, but now we're going to turn to somebody else. maybe that's an argument for ted cruz who now looks like this responsible, experienced leader. >> my last fight with my dad over trump related comments was about the use of the word schlong. >> thank you very much. it's also interesting to see this tactical shift now. battles brewing between a lot of the other candidates. chris christie focused on marco rubio's voting record while campaigning also in iowa. >> he gives a good speech, marco. and i want to hear his stirring speech that's going to try to persuade people on the floor of the senate not to vote for this
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awful spending bill. except he never showed up. he was totally opposed it and didn't go there to vote no. only in washington, i'm against something and then just not go. dude, show up to work and vote no. right? just show up to work and vote no. if you don't want to, then quit. >> look, i'm running for president because i want to change the direction of this country, and that will require for me for the time being to miss some votes in the u.s. senate because i want those votes to matter again. i have a close to 90% attendance record. chris has been missing in new jersey for half the time. that's fine. we're going to continue to campaign on what i'm going to do when i'm president. >> and rubio's attendance record came under fire with new ads in iowa from jeb bush's $100 million super pac, right to rise. >> senators came together for a top secret briefing on the terrorist threat. marco rubio was missing,
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fundraising in california instead. two weeks later, terrorists struck again in san bernardino. where was marco? fundraising again in new orleans. >> his attack isn't accurate. i'm a member of the intelligence committee. a whole day before the rest of the senate learned information, i already knew it. canceled an event to go back to d.c. in fact on that tuesday to be fully briefed. i have access to intelligence information that isn't shared with others not on the committee. >> a rubio spokesman also said, it's sad to see jeb's joyful campaign reduced to such intellectual dishonesty. so is what we're seeing here, do you think, there's an acknowledgement on the part of the other republicans, it's somebody versus trump. so we got to go against each other and figure out who that someone else is. >> i think that's part of it. one thing you should look at with these ads is where they're
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airing. that ad that's going after marco rubio is airing in iowa. it's not airing in new hampshire, the bush must win state. that tells you there's a sense growing among republicans, if they're ultimately running against rubio, they're going to have to kill him in iowa in the cradle before he's able to get out of there to potentially successfully challenge them in new hampshire. that ad's contrasting bush's record with kasich and christie, that's what new hampshire voters are seeing. making that exact same attack -- >> they all believe that you've got to have a race for third in iowa. >> right. historically three tickets, right? >> maybe they can make it in new hampshire. the other thing worth noting, they also note that two of rubio's top advisors ran ads against a senate candidate in iowa attacking him for his
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committee attendance record. >> karma. >> i was shocked. i don't know. maybe i'm wrong about this. how cookie cutter that ad was. it seemed like they took stockpile footage and threw it together -- >> 34, $36 million so far. >> you would think they would have -- >> i want to bring matt lewis -- >> speed, speed is sometimes why you have those cookie cutter ads. >> matt lewis, is this is a powerful message with republican primary voters that one has not shown up for his job in the u.s. senate? >> i don't think it resonates that much. partially because we're in this moment now where being an elected official actually hurts you. >> yes. >> the national polls, if you add up donald trump, ben carson, and ted cruz, you get around 70% of the vote right now. and you have a combined three years of elected experience with those three candidates.
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so i don't think it necessarily hurts him. but i do think there's this interesting concerning trend out there right now. if you're advocating for somebody who would be more -- i would say a more traditional, thoughtful conservative to win, the so-called establishment lane, even though i kind of differ with that learning. we just saw donald trump take this veiled shot at ted cruz. i think cruz is going to coast to victory in iowa. you have, you know, christie and kasich and bush and rubio, mostly even is going after rubio. that's a really weird dynamic. he's not in first place. >> anywhere. anywhere -- yeah. >> very well could split the vote and help donald trump win new hampshire. >> we've actually seen that question that you just asked of rubio at a town hall, why do you not show up for your senate votes. he says, look, you know how
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broken congress is. nothing that happens there is important. nothing matters. i think this is more important and people applaud. so he has an answer for it that people seem to like. >> this to me is at example of sort of the traditional fouls in politics. even the miami task corps -- >> president obama did the same exact thing in 2008, even worse. >> and chris christie -- the guy's launching the attack about attendance aren't showing up for their own jobs. >> all the guys who are low in the polls are looking for something that works. traditionally, you're going to either two after the frontrunner or the person that you believe is in the way of you finishing high. one of the challenges with an attack is you can attack somebody and take them down, but that doesn't mean the votes come to you. still ahead, iran conducts weapons drills near american warships and the u.s. is caught
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spying on b.b. netanyahu or as the state department likes to call it wednesday. john kirby joins us live. jeb bush does something incredible on the trail. we'll play that for you. first, let's turn to bonnie schneider for the severe thunderstorms across the country. >> we are still looking at that threat in missouri because we have widespread flooding anticipated. including the three you see here, st. louis, chester and cape girardeau. we're likely to see record numbers we haven't seen since some of the big floods years ago. we've had record rainfall in st. louis and dallas as well. snow right now just lightly falling. we had some snow in omaha. again, not really a problem. these storms are. you can see them along i-10 in
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>> here's an interesting moment from the trail. former governor jeb bush challenged on his definition of terrorism. a young man asked whether he would characterize the charleston massacre as quote, christian terrorism, given his use of the term radical islamic
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terrorism to describe the san bernardino attacks. >> you consider the summertime charleston attack to be an example of christian terrorism? >> no, the case of charleston was the act of a deranged person. these tragedies that unfold, the aurora case where the guy was just put in prison for life, all of these cases, i think, are related to an organized effort, but severe mental illness, crazy people that have access to guns and then kill people. i don't consider it the same. they're both tragic. they're both heartbreaking. but one is a threat to western civilization and our way of life, and the other is a problem that we have to deal with in a completely different way. >> the threat of white supremacy may not be as large as the threat now of radical islam -- >> that's my point.
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you're putting words in my mouth. i'm not diminishing the horrific act of a kid going into a black church and killing people because of their race. i'm not diminishing that at all. but is that the threat to our national security? it's a threat, but it is not a threat to our national security. >> the comparison to aurora and newtown is my problem. there's a difference between crazy people and crazy people motivated by an ideology that's killed millions and millions of people. >> i'll grant you that. white supremacy was motivated differently than someone mentally deranged. i respect your point of view for that, so i'm adjusting mine to acknowledge it. something not done in politics often. >> such an interesting exchange. you don't -- i mean, it is always i think compelling if people saw more of what people are asking out on the campaign trail. there's a lot of really
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thoughtful conversation that's going on. but this one was unexpected. >> bush calls himself, i think the quote is a paragraph candidate in a twitter world. i think this kind of exemplifies that. he's been called that. you can quibble with where he started and ends. i did find it interesting that he had an evolution in the moment and willing to acknowledge that his thought progressed. >> look, charleston was about a hate crime. because the predisposition of this person with confederate flags and statements he made indicated that he had a racial animus. you did see bush being who jeb bush is, thoughtful and listening to the question and not just trying to bombard the questioner with rhetoric. >> yeah. i worked for a governor and this is exactly what he was like in the state. he would go to unexpected places for a republican. before he walked out the door,
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he would have changed his mind, called his cabinet members and made adjustments in policy. and the most difficult thing to translate on the campaign trail and on twitter. >> it doesn't work at all. >> when you are running against someone like trump who can send off something under 140 characters, send the media spinning. >> i think what also makes it different, you have multiple candidates. when you have ten candidates, it creates a very different dynamic on the campaign trail, in a debate. people struggle for focus. struggle for attention and trump's bombast has captured attention. coming up, new reports the taliban controls the most territory in afghanistan since
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in front of this group tonight, will you join those leaders both faith leaders and secular leaders and political leaders from both the right and the left in calling what is happening by its proper game,
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genocide? >> yes, i will now. and i will because we now have enough evidence. i'm sure now we have enough evidence what is happening in genocide deliberately aimed at destroying not only the lives but wiping out the existence of christians and other religious minorities in the middle east in territory controlled by isis. >> that was hillary clinton last night on the campaign trail after pressed on her position of targeting christians, yazidis and other religious minorities by the islamic state. one of the leaders was a syrian man said to have direct ties to the master mind of the paris terror attacks. a spokesman for the u.s.-led coalition in iraq said yesterday that forces will continue to hunt isis leaders working to inspire attacks against the u.s. >> so we are striking at the head of this snake.
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we haven't severed the head of the snake yet, and it's still got fangs. we have to be clear about that. there's much more fighting to do. >> meanwhile, a top u.s. general is saying more troops may be needed in afghanistan. in an interview, john campbell said maintaining the current force of 9,800 u.s. troops to train afghan forces and conduct counterterrorism raids is vital. he said the reduction should be put off as long as possible. the taliban now controls about 30% of the districts across afghanistan. that's the most territory the group has held since 2001. the "new york times" points out that while military officials have been focusing on isis, al qaeda also seems to be reappearing in afghanistan. general campbell said al qaeda has been attempting to rebuild support networks and planning
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capabilities. johning us, john kirby and brian sullivan and lee gallagher. let me start with you and talk about the troop levels, john kirby. there has been a growing consensus it seems among the military that what we have there and what the plan has been in terms of scaling back is not going to work. there's been a lot of talk about this particularly for people very much involved in this in congress. we've seen polls that show this growing unease among the american people, that they are more in favor of boots on the ground than they have been in a very long time. is there an active reconsideration going on right now about leaving those force levels where they are longer than we had previously anticipated? >> the president already made a decision to allow the 9,800
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troops to stay longer at the rek addition of general campbell. what goes on over the next year, that's going to have to be between the commanders and the commander in chief. this commander in chief has made it clear he's willing to listen and take their advice. i don't think we're at a stage right now where we're going to make that particular decision going forward. he's already allowed for the 9,800 to stay longer than previously planned to be there. the mission there is scoped appropriately to the threat, which is to really try to get the afghan national security forces in improved conditions and better conditions to defend their own people and borders. and they're doing that. this is a mission that's really about training, advising, assisting, providing enabling capabilities that they may not have quite to the degree that they need. that's what our focus is going to be on. >> we're 14 years into this war in afghanistan at this point.
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with the reemergence of the taliban, new reports about al qaeda coming back into the country, can we step back and say this is going well at this point? >> i think you k. it's not a surprise that al qaeda would be trying to get a toe hold back in afghanistan. not surprising that the taliban would try to take advantage of lower international troops on the ground. frankly, it's not a surprise to us that even isil has been trying to gain a toe hold in afghanistan. but the focus over the last two to three years has really been improving the capabilities of the afghan national security forces. they are, by leaps and bounds, a much better force than they were even a couple years ago. they have responded well to terrorist attacks. it doesn't mean that afghanistan is a safe place. we obviously know that, that it's still dangerous. which makes the mission -- and
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it's not just the united states' mission. it's a nato mission. it makes this mission all the more critical to stay there and keep improving their cape b89s. where we can and where we should, such as surveillance and intelligence, supplement their capabilities that they're not quite as good at. it's an important mission. i think it's important that we stay at it. >> this is nicole wallace. i want to ask you about u.s.-israeli relations in the contest of the "wall street journal" reporting on our spying on them and whether or not that made the relationship between john kerry and his counterparts more or less complicated during the iran negotiations. it certainly suggests that one of our motives for the spying was to have a sense how they were going to spin members of congress about the iran deal. i wonder if your job and especially the secretary's was made more difficult because of
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it. >> without getting into intelligence matters, the president made it clear we're not going to collect intelligence on national leaders unless there's some strong, compelling national security case. >> to your specific exemption, the reporting certainly doesn't refuted at this point. >> i'm not going to address the intelligence aspects here. your question was broader than that, and that was about the relationship. the secretary enjoys a very strong relationship with prime minister netanyahu. they speak frequently. we don't always agree with the israeli leaders about everything that's going on there or in the region. but he has a very, very healthy relationship with the prime minister and works at that relationship very hard. and we have made it very clear -- and the secretary was just there not long ago, that our commitments to this relationship with israel and to israel's security is just absolutely unshakable. nothing's going to change that.
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>> what's a little spying among friends, right? >> was the secretary in favor, though, of having all the intelligence capability he could have about israel? the white house has acknowledged that aides were a part of this operation? >> i'm simply not going to talk about intelligence matters. israel is a strong partner and friend in the region. again, we don't agree on everything, but we have really important priorities there in the middle east and israel specifically. i won't talk about intelligence matters. >> listen, most people in the world are probably the same, they want to get up, go to a john, put food on the table and cover and protection for their family. what are we doing to solve the problem in the middle east long-term? seems like things are as bad or worse than they were ten years ago. any economy besides oil and guns. how do we solve this problem long term by helping them create
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an infrastructure where they can lead relatively normal lives rather than being forced into extremist schools and camps because they have no other way to put food on the table. is there any long-term planning? >> no, i think there is a long-term strategy. the secretary has been working on this very, very hard through personal diplomacy and engagement. he has been to the region probably more than any other part of the world he's traveled. we're going to keep doing that. take syria for example. there's a problem in -- problems in syria are really twofold. you have isil, which still has sanctuary there in syria, still killing people. and then you have bashar al assad in damascus also killing syrian people and rendering his country even in worse condition. what we're doing is, on two fronts, we have a coalition going after isil on nine different lines of effort. one is military. and then the secretary has been
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personally shepherding through a diplomatic process to try to get a political transition in syria to a government away from assad. syria right now is very much the center of the focus on the middle east. it doesn't mean it's the only place where there are problems. obviously, we know there are elsewhere. he blooe believes through a combination of military pressure and diplomatic pressure with the international community to get a political transition in that country to a government that can be responsive to people, the sear i can't syrian refugees can go back home and there will be no breathing space for isil. >> good so see you, thanks so much. still ahead, from oil prices to interest rates, a look at the big economic questions for 2016. constipated?
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with a look at the economic stories we should be looking out for in the next year. >> all right. economics can be boring, right? >> never. >> here's what i've done. the three big economic stories for next year all set to led zeppelin song titles. number one, is the economy going to ramble on? we are going to grow at 1.5 %, 2%, the economy has been okay. will reramble on or finally really take off next year. how many more times is number two. how many more times with the fed raise rates? some say two more, some say four more, will they raise too fast and slow the recovery. and number three, good times, bad times. because we've all had our share. >> how long did it take you -- >> basically on the drive home last night. >> also, questions and no
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answers? >> i take issue with your choice of led zeppelin songs. there's many you left out. >> there are, but it's a short segment. low oil, we love them. believe me, hundreds of thousands of jobs lost. >> this is the thing with low oil prices, the silver lining is not bearing fruit. usually consumers spend more. we're not seeing that right now. nobody knows. it's a bigami mystery. it may be a new normal. supply is declining, but production is staying. >> should have matched it to a rolling stone song title. >> i could do that. >> or my silver lining, best song of the year. >> good song, yes. >> another important story to watch this year is what's happening with all these unicorns. all these billion-dollar startups out in silicon valley. already starting to see cracks
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in some of their armor. a lot of companies -- a few companies have raised money at what are called down rounds, lower than their valuation. i just think there's a lot of money feeding these high burn rates. these companies are spending on everything. it's fueling a lot of ideas that are nice to have but aren't like, i have this amazing idea i need to find money for it. >> are you surprised that the economic conversation on the campaign trail is so unsophisticated? >> yes. when it's around. it's not even there. >> is there one? >> no. >> doesn't seem to be one. >> on the republican side, it's been largely overtaken by terrorism. >> i think -- how stagnant wage growth has basically fed a lot of this unrest. going into 2016, are there any silver linings about that becoming less than an issue? >> i think so. i think there is a populist
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uprising on both sides. this has -- >> what do you think -- >> i think a lot of it is inequality. it's the things you just said. it's people having suffered -- >> let's leave on a high -- global inequality is going down. the problem is capital is moving around the world. it's not just that we can build stuff here because capital competes around the world. i'd love to hear a politician on any side say, we're going to bring jobs back from china. that's too sim polil simplistic. >> thank you for the stairway to heavy. >> go to break. >> fortunate magazine title business gets schooled. how exxonmobil, ge. and we'll be right back.
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i understand here brave, strong, fearless and honor the veteran women that feel scared, weak, and fearful. today, i step into my purpose. >> that was nicole baldwin, winner of the orlando know your value event, overcoming personal challenges and how she is going
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to empower other women to know her value. joining us now, performance coach at the johnson & johnson human performance institute, jennifer lee. they were one of the sponsors of the know your value event. >> she just won, all of her teams won this year. >> three how much five were your mentees. they all went down to the human performance institute down in orlando, which i had never heard of. the synergy was unbelievable. women wanting to know their value and communicate it effectively. the process, the hbi process actually helps them nail that. >> yes. with the johnson & johnson human performance institute, we help people really maximize their energy so they can show up as their very best both at work and at home. what was so great, they came
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down really excited about taking some time to do a little self-reflection, to slow down, to really recognize what value they brought to the world, and the tools and strategies that we provided them help them do that. >> a lot of it has to do with stress management. we live in a world where people are expected to perform 24/7. talk about how the pressure can be daunting, but it can be debilitatin debilitating. >> we have 24/7 demands yet not enough energy to actually meet those demands. when we don't take care of ourselves, we're left feeling fatigued, demote vated and the stress overtakes us. stress can be a good thing if you use it appropriately. >> it can be used appropriately if you share and you're able to sort of channel it. >> one of the complaints that people have is a low tolerance for stress. so people workout in the weight
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room. when they come to you, how do you teach them to be more tolerant to stress and actually thrive under stressful circumstances? >> we look at stress from a very different view. from an energy management perspective, stress is about creating an opportunity for growth. so we don't look at it just physically. it's how do you put yourself in a situation where you can emotionally grow and become resilie resilient. really, the pen call is helping people recognize how they invest their energy in the people and things that matter most. with our demands and the stress we face, we don't slow down. so the constantestants experien an opportunity to gain clarity around who they are when their at their best, which i believe is really important for knowing your value. and then we gave them hard
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truths from a nutrition perspective, but then even perspective from those around them. how are they currently showing up. that truth and the misalignment to what matters most is where that transformation occurs. >> jen, thank you so much for what you've done for all of the contestants and being a part of "know your value." hopefully more to come. >> it's been a great ride. we'll be right back with much more moej.
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. i went to an ivy league school. i can be more politically correct than any guy in washington. believe me, i'm smarter than they are. they always try and belittle. my crowds are the smartest people. i know it. i know it. look at the people. they like to say, well, you know, they're lower this, lower that. oh, they're so disgusting. what they're doing is trying to marginalize. it's against my fwrigraiy grain down money. now i'm going to be greedy for the united states. >> this is definitely not a normal situation, but it is time to talk about what if anything we have learned today. >> i learned that i have a whole
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lot of love for brian sullivan because he's such a led zeppelin fan. i also will rise to sam's challenge. or was it you nicole? >> me. >> you can't always get what you want. there we go. >> i learned that chris thinks the thomas crown affair is a new movie, quote unquote. brian's got a great feature coming up. i'm setting him up. >> brian, what did you learn? >> i learned that you guys are pretty awesome, and happy new year. >> happy new year. >> i'm not tall enough to be a business reporter. >> that's true. >> and you're definitely not. >> i'm not tall enough for a lot of things. i learn that wherever joe and mika are, they don't have cable. happy new year. >> happy new year. >> msnbc live picks up right now.
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and good morning. i'm in for jose diaz-balart on this day. historic and dangerous flooding in missouri as rivers swell to levels not seen in decades and the worst is not over. at least 13 people have died in the floods in the plains and midwest caused by recent rainfall from that severe winter storm that swept through the nation's midsection earlier this week. several rivers continue to rise and will not crest for days. causing missouri's governor to declare a state of emergency. many setting up sandbags hoping to avoid the fate of their neighborhoods. let's go live to eureka, missouri. what's the scene like this morning. >> reporter: this water is continuing to rise. a state of emergency here in missouri after 13 people died this weekend. the governor has already called in the natl

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