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there are always going to be unknowns. you just have to be ready for them. another step on the journey... will you be ready when growth presents itself? realize your buying power at today on "politics nation" our special 201 preview, what to expect in the year ahead. can donald trump become the gop nominee? what happens if he does? and could there still be a surprise in the democratic race? also, what president obama is planning for his final year in office, and why the real fight in 2016 could be voting rights. from rockefeller center in new york city, it's "politics nation" with al sharpton. >> good morning.
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i'm al sharpton. welcome to the first "politics nati nation" of the new year. special show looking ahead to 2016. we start with the gop presidential race. if there's one thing that most of the candidates agree on, it's that donald trump will not be the nominee. >> i can guarantee you donald trump is not going to be the nominee. >> i believe that donald trump will not be the nominee. >> i'm going to support the republican nominee and i'm comfortable that it's not going to be donald trump. >> i do not believe that done alleged is going to be the nominee. i don't believe he's going to be the president. >> but, of course, donald trump has a different view. >> i just tell you that i'm going to win. i am. i'm going to win. i believe i'm going to win. i really have just a great feeling about it and you know, my life has been about winning. we're going to win. we're going to win. i'm not leaving. we're going to win. we're going to win.
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i think we're going to win. >> if donald trump has his way, donald trump will win, and what's to stop him? in february, republicans have voting in four states, iowa, new hampshire, south carolina, and nevada. trump is strong in all of them. and then in march we have super tuesday, with voting in 12 states, including many in the south. what's to stop trump in these states other than trump himself? right now, it's a four-week sprint to the start of voting. joining me for our "politics nation" panel, joan walsh from "the nation" clarence page of "the chicago tribune" and "matt welch of "reason" magazine. thank you all for being here and happy new year. >> happy new year to you too, reverend. >> donald trump has been first
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in the fight for over 150 days. i mean, the gop establishment is saying that they can't seem to do anything, they're trying to do what they can to disrupt it before iowa. >> i think ted cruz has a chance of disrupting. the problem for the establishment is cruz isn't part of it, but i think we're going to see in early 2016 the narrowing of this race down to a few people i think fairly quickly and the thing i'm looking forward to as a democrat the most is seeing how trump and cruz really go at each other and whether marco rubio can become the establishment candidate without saying he's the establishment candidate because that's the kiss of death right now. >> can they hope cruz comes on, rises up, i'm not sure the gop establishment even wants that, what can stop trump? >> i want to say first of all i never thought i was going to be at this point viewing ted cruz as the moderate alternative but
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that's the way people talk about him now. maybe ted cruz will get it, what a relief. it is bizarre, but anything is possible, rev. you have to say this is a new year. now we can start to get serious. >> right. >> now voters can start to get serious because that's what we have seen in the past. it wasn't until like, well a couple of weeks out before the iowa caucuses that you found voters seriously looking and folks in iowa already are because they always are. you have a turnout at the caucuses of people who are dedicated voters and we already see ted cruz ahead of trump in iowa. i think we're going to see that kind of shuffle happening around the rest of the country, too. >> shuffle key word there, matt. because as we keep seeing this shuffle, bun minute the surge of ben carson, then the surge at least we were told it would be a surge of marco rubio that really didn't happen, then cruz. could we see a brokered
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convention in cleveland at the republican convention? >> i don't think so just because political reporters want that so bad, they're just praying for this to happen. >> always. >> the republican -- >> most reporters don't mostly don't pray but go ahead. >> they've been trying to forestall this for months, set up the debate schedule, collapsed the primary schedule to make sure the anti-establishment populist surge wouldn't happen and now it's on their hands kinds of a direct result. everyone has been wrong about donald trump. i've been wrong about donald trump. one of the things we learned through him and ben carson and carly fiorina and ted cruz is that the anti-establishment and anti-elite sentiment in the republican party right now is just dominant and if you can't tap into it, you can't win.
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marco rubio is the ohm person with any establishment cred. jeb bush is not that close and can't tap in. >> clarence, which leads me to this question. if there's not going to be a brokered convention as some want, or if the establishment does have its way, will we see donald trump run for president on a third party ticket, even though he kind of waffles on that? >> yes. >> and the reverse question, if he wins, say the momentum doesn't stop and he wins the nominati nomination, do we see a moderate run as a third party ticket? >> that trick never works seems like. it wasn't for a long time. that reminds me of john anderson running as a third party candidate and very earnest, but didn't score that many votes. >> but perot running as a third party helped elect bill clinton. >> which was not perot's
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intention but that's the thing. >> it might be another clinton's intention to see a strong third party. >> he's talked about it. >> the huntsman block is just so -- >> i know. >> what would a trump nomination does a hupntsman or somebody ge a lot of people who say you have some elected officials saying i can't go with trucmp. >> every time trump says something horrible, they didn't used to criticize him and now they do. even lindsey graham who i don't believe will pull the lever for trch trm trump, he isn't going to do that. i truly believe there are republicans who would vote for clinton, not bernie or just not vote. >> or vote for trump and clarence what i'm asking is the big picture scenario, what would
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a third party mean in the race like this in. >> if it's trump as the third party it will hurt republicans. if it's huntsman it may hurt democrats more than republicans. the parties are polarized. huptsman is closer to the democrats than the republicans. most conservatives would say that now and the wild card is the voters in the middle, the moderate swing voters who have become the deciders in the end who, by the way, are disproportionately unmarried women. they tend to be the biggest late swing voters and they can swing it as they did in favor of george w. bush or in favor of barack obama. >> matt, let's go down the ticket. how does trump affect the republicans in congressional and senate races? isn't that a lot of the fear of the establishment? >> sure it is. it's a liability. he gets to make the republican party look like the worst description of the republican party by joan walsh basically.
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>> thank you, matt. >> they can portray the republican party as this sort of cesspool of vile racism and that's a difficult thing to win and the hard thing for the republican party is that the people who have been successfully getting into state houses and those kind of things haven't been running on trump like campaigns. there's a handful here and there but that hasn't been the case. i think there will be a ferocious effort in the new year to solve the cruz/rubio fight quickly and tell everyone to get the hell out of the race and coalesce behind probably in my view cruz which will make a lot of the establishmentarians freak out and the neoconservatives for hillary. >> in line with that, joan, the latino vote. has trump done the damage that can't be repaired? >> certainly to himself and possibly to the party. i mean if it were to be a rubio i think that is a somewhat different game even though he's kind of repudiated his immigration reform stand but i
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want to go back to something clarence said. i don't know if we know who the deciders are. the deciders are always swing voters and independent minded. i think the real question assuming the nominee is hillary just for the purposes of this argument, does she reassemble the obama coalition. does she increase latino turnout. >> can she get the turnout. >> can she get the african-american turnout. i think that's what the campaign is spending a lot of time thinking about. >> you have the new voting laws. we do not know the impact of these 15 states with these new laws. we don't know what is going to inspire people that's going to stand in line those five, six, seven hours that they did before. there's a lot of people that are looking at yesterday's playbook in today's election and that playbook may not be applicable. >> that's right. what democrats want is what happened in 2012 where fear of
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having their votes stolen inspired more blacks to turn out to vote, in fact proportionally record number of black voters. hillary clinton wants that now but she has to plug into black lives matter and a lot of other things happening on the ground in the black community. >> and get a lot of older voters who are emotional about the vote being stolen, she's got to gel them out. stay with us, everybody. lots more ahead. coming up, more of our special 206 preview. also, reaction to this week's bombshell news about bill cosby and tamir rice. stay with us. when you've got a house full of guests on the way and a cold with sinus pressure, you need fast relief. alka-seltzer plus severe sinus congestion and cough liquid gels rush relief to your tough symptoms. to put you back in control.
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50 years ago, registering to vote here in selma and much of the south meant guessing the number of jelly beans in a jar, the number of bubbles on a bar of soap. it meant risking your dignity and sometimes your life. what's our excuse today for not voting? how do we so casually discard the right for which so many fought? >> president obama last year at selma talking about the need to protect the right to vote, and in 2016 is shaping up to be a critical year. it will be the first national election since the supreme court gutted the voting rights act, and in 15 states anti-voting laws will be on the books for
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the first time for presidential election. that includes key swing states like ohio, virginia, and north carolina, and state lawmakers are expected to pass even more restrictions when they come back here in this new year. many of these in states that formerly had to get their changes approved by the federal government, but not anymore. joining me now is michael waldman, president of the brennan center for justice. thank you for being here. happy new year. >> happy new year to you. >> what is your top concern for voting in 2016? >> well you're exactly right, reverend, that we know there are candidates on the ballot, the presidency is on the ballot, the congress but the integrity of our democracy is on the ballot in 2016. this is the first time in a high turnout, high stakes national election that these laws will
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have been on the books without the protection of the voting rights act, and since we began to see this wave of anti-voting laws that began to pass in 2011 all across the country, we don't really know what the impact is going to be. >> and see, i don't think, michael, a lot of people understand that many of these states, 15, have never had these laws on the books before in a presidential election, so when everybody's talking about turnout, we don't know the impediments people are going to face and many of them are critical states. we really don't know what impact this is going to have. >> when you look at those states and add up the electoral votes that they represent, that's 60% of the votes one would need to be elected president. >> wow, 60%. >> in those states and you're right, when the republicans took control of a lot of state legislatures in 2011, they began to pass these laws. 19 states passed 24 new laws to make it harder to vote for the first time since the gym crow
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era. in 2012, a lot of times courts, democrats, republicans, federal, state, stepped in and blocked those laws or blunted them or repealed them or postponed them, but a lot of them now are going into effect, and you know, look, there's plenty of voting. there's plenty of turnout with president obama on the ballot certainly voting in the african-american community has been quite high. >> long lines. >> long lines is one of the consequences of a lot of these laws, but we don't really know what kind of effect they will have on turnout. there's a government agency, the government accountability office, it's part of congress, it's very respected. it's nonpartisan. republicans and democrats both rely on it, and they did the first real study of this last year. they said, they looked at tennessee and they looked at kansas, and they found that in fact, the new voter identification laws there harsh strict new laws did actually bring turnout down but not for everybody especially in
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communities of color. >> let's look at north carolina. the north carolina voting law subject of a federal trial this past summer, reduced early voting, ended same-day registration, ended preregistration for teens. i mean, this is exactly what you're talking about. in alabama, they require photo i.d. and then they shut down the dmvs, the department of motor vehicles in predominantly black areas where you get your voter i.d. from, so they say you have to have this. oh, we're going to shut town where you have to go get it. >> enyou have to walk basically to get your i.d. at the dmv. it's a striking thing, when you look at the map of alabama where those offices have been shut down is, has traditional been known as the black belt, counties with majority african-american residents. >> my family is from there. >> and it's just, it's right -- >> the one that gets me, michael, florida. critical state, we keep hearing
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all the pundits talking about florida. it disenfranchised ex-felons in florida, 1.5 million voters now can't vote off the books. >> that's a real tragedy. one out of three of the people in this country who are prohibited from voting because of a past felony conviction live in florida and in florida and actually in a lot of places this is something where democrats and republicans left and right have actually come together to say you know, we can do something about this. >> right. >> jeb bush when he was governor and charlie crist cut back on felony disenfranchisement but the current governor scott undid everything they did as soon as he got in. it's not only voter identification, it's little things, cutting back on early voting, especially cutting on sunday souls to the polls, cut back on election day registration, in north carolina
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they ended public financing for judicial candidates and it's sort of a is mosmorgasboard. >> michael brennan thank you for your time and happy new year. >> happy new year to you. next, our look ahead to president obama's final year in office. also, surprises from the hillary clinton campaign. when will we see more of bill and chelsea in
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. we're back, previewing 2016, and we turn to president obama entering his final full year in office. in 2015 he defied expectations of "lame duck" status with historic actions on cuba, climate change and more, and at this, at his year-end news
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conference, he said he's not finished. >> i said at the beginning of this year that interesting stuff happens in the fourth quarter and we are only half way through. i plan on doing everything i can with every minute of every day that i have left as president to deliver on behalf of the american people. since taking office i've never been more optimistic about the year ahead than i am now and in 2016 i'll leave it all out on the field. >> on the president's agenda, gun control, closing guantanamo bay, signing a criminal justice bill, and leading the international response to isis. we've seen two-term presidents take big swings in their final year with mixed results. in 1988, president reagan made his first trip to moscow. his supporters say it helped thaw out the cold war. in 2000, president clinton
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convened the camp david summit but failed to get a mideast peace deal. joining me now, professor allan lichtmann, presidential historian at american university. thank you for being here, professor. >> my pleasure. >> let me ask you, what can we expect from the president this year? >> president obama tends to go out with not a wimper but with a bang, and he can do this mostly by taking care of unfinished business particularly in the foreign policy realm. you mentioned the campaign against isis. he's got to show progress there. i think there are bigger issues, except for the affordable care act rkt the two biggest elements of his legacy i believe are the iran nuclear treaty and the extraordinary almost 200-nation afwreemt on climate change in paris. he has to do everything in his power to make sure those
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initiatives are implemented. the iran treaty could transform the middle east and the climate agreement could be the most important threat perhaps humanity has faced. >> won't the republicans be trying to make him a lame duck president as he strives for that? >> the republicans sight unseen decided they're going to oppose everything that obama is for. therefore, he's got to do this by skirting around congress. they're probably not going to compromise with him on either of those issues, but there's a lot he can do on climate change. he's already done some with executive orders. lot of that is pending in the court, and he doesn't need to have the iran treaty ratified by the senate. he just needs to make sure that it gets implemented, that iran follows through this spring. >> you are an historiahistorian. what lessons can he learn from
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other two-term presidents in their last year? >> you mentioned ron alleged reagan who was very successful in his last couple of years ago in foreign policy but following his own muse, by not listening either to folks within his own party or folks within the opposition party. that's what obama needs to to. this is his last shot. he needs to stye these are my priorities. i'm going to take care of this unfinished business and do what i can do on gun control, do a lot with executive orders. he should not care about the politics of it. he should take all of the pollsters, the handlers and the hucksters and send them out to a pacific island for vacation for his last year. >> said he's looser in this last year. let me show you what he said at the white house correspondents dinner. >> my advisers asked me, mr. president, do you have a bucket list? i said well, i have something that rhymes with bucket list.
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take executive action on immigration? bucket. climate regulations, bucket, it's the right thing to do. >> obama seems to be getting a little loose as he gets ready to wind this thing down. professor? >> the looser the better, and the less he listens to these advisers who i said he should send away, the better off that he is going to be. my big advice to him is keep your eye on the big picture. that's what you are going to be judged by historically, and there are some really big issues out there that you need to focus on. >> professor allan lichtmann, thank you so much for your time, happy new year. >> same to you. next, the year ahead in the democratic presidential race. how will the obama/clinton
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fast, powerful liquid gels from alka seltzer plus , we're back with our special 2016 preview show with a look at the questions ahead in the democratic presidential race. will hillary clinton pull away from bernie sanders, and if she does, will he give her a full endorsement? here's what senator sanders told me back in last october. >> if i get into the democratic primary process it's obligatory for me to say i'm fighting hard to win. but if i don't i will support the winner. >> will clinton be endorsed by elizabeth warren? when i spoke to senator warren last year she didn't show a
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hand. lot of progressives have questions about whether she'll be a progressive warrior. what would you say to them? >> i think that's what we got to see. i want to hear what she says she wants to do. that's what campaigns are supposed to be about. >> other questions, when and how will bill clinton be rolled out on the campaign trail? is chelsea her secret weapon? what role will president obama play? will clinton be able to energize the obama coalition and how much will she embrace his record while selling her own ideas? let's bring back our panel, joan walsh, clarence page and matt wel welch. let's start with the primary. what obstacles are left for the clbt nomination? >> sadly, very, very, very knew. i'm afraid as much as i would like to see bernie sanders to
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give more of a fight for the sake of having an actual discussion and competitive contest i think he'll be the jerry brown of '92 here, just kind of more road kill. he'll push her to the left on economic issues, he already has and that's going to be enough to satisfy democrats i think as they start to contemplate what's happening on the republican side of the aisle. >> do you agree, joan? >> i'm close to agreeing but i still think it's close in iowa and he's ahead in new hampshire. if he beat her in iowa and quickly new hampshire that might recalibrate but he'll have a tough time in south carolina. ironically because that state was so tough for her and really did brand the campaign in 2008 after president clinton -- >> she lost iowa, won new hampshire and killed in south carolina politically. that was the black vote, clarence. >> that's her firewall now, rev. >> that's the irony her firewall is the black vote that went against her in '08.
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>> that's right. >> with sanders' politics he's not been able to according to polls penetrate the black vote and not really have gotten a lot of opinion makers that have swayed among black voters at least that we can measure to really come on board with it. >> and hillary clinton also has a lot of friends in the black establishment, black democratic establishment. congressman jim clyburn in south carolina when he switched support to barack obama you remember eight years ago how dramatic that was. that was a signal to everybody. >> he did stay neutral in the primary and will stay neutral in the south carolina primary again. he's playing it down the middle but john lewis is not conflicted, people who were very conflicted last time around are completely in her camp. >> and champing at the bit now. >> and fund-raising there isn't a significant part of democratic fund-raising, hollywood, silicon
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valley whatever that is conflicted. they're all going behind hillary. bernie sanders is getting individual donations, i don't think it's enough to go against hillary. >> bernie sanders, how important and what role would he play, should he lose, how important is he toward her ultimate general election candidacy if she wins, and elizabeth warren? >> i think he's really important. i think if this race -- a lot of democrats have mixed feelings. i would like to see the race go on. i think that's good for democrats but i don't want to see the race go on and get ugly so there's bad feelings on one side or the other. i think if it's a clean race, she beats him, he concedes at some point and endorses her, i think she's very important in bringing along his constituency which is sizeable. i think elizabeth warren is hugely important. she's going to wait. she's really i think going to wait and see what she can, what she hears and what she can i don't mean get out of her of clinton in a transactional way
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exactly but can she continue to use her silence to pull her to the left. >> bill clinton, matt, how do you roll them out where he helps a lot but is not used in a way to damage her by the ultimate right wing attack on bill clinton? >> think it depends in large part how long she's going to be shadow boxing with donald trump. the more it's just her against trump and with trump's record of saying ungodly things or things that we really think were not possible in a presidential campaign about women, have a lady going up against donald trump, when it stops being about donald trump, if it ever does and becomes more of a ted cruz or marco rubio then you'll see the energy be brought in by hillary clinton. >> barack obama the president of the united states, how important and how do you handle his role, because clearly she needs to energize the obama coalition. >> right. >> how do you deal with the
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president, where you need him to energize the coalition that made him victorious twice, but you need to also have a distance for your independent voters that may not be as appreciative of the president as some of the rest of us? >> it's a role reversal now that we're in store for as he tries to help her election because his legacy is at stake here. he wants to be able to leave office and be able to turn the baton over and in this case it's going to be, there are so many places where barack obama is extraordinarily popular and needs to energize a hillary clinton vote especially young voters, minority voters, urban voters, et cetera. she needs his help in those areas. and if trrp trmp stays in the race and gets the nomination,
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that's just going to be an immense help to her. she can't rely on it. >> what we talked about a little bit was these long lines and i remember very well in 2012 many of news the civil rights community not for a candidate, went out there saying they're trying to rob the vote and people stood in lines as much for making sure they didn't get away with turning back the clock on voting as they did in supporting the re-election of the president. are we going to see long lines for hillary clinton? how does she inspire that? because that really made a difference in some states >> i don't know if she is going to inspire it but the grassroots people fighting against these laws will be inspired by that and depending on the candidate again if it's trump the republican problem already has a blem every single hyphenated american. they lost among everyone, so if it's trump if you are not part of the trump coalition, then you
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are going to be waiting in a line to make sure that doesn't happen >> so joan, you think that if it's trump it helps to energize and make the lines longer? >> oh, i think so. >> suppose if it's cruz, suppose if it's an establishment republican? >> trump definitely. cruz probably. because he's said so many things. he recently said women, we have rubbers so we don't have to worry about contraception in terms of women with their own bodies. he galvanizes portions of the community but not like trump. rubio is unknown. >> stay with us. it's crystal ball time with all of your predictions. we will be right back. we'll be back with more from the "politics nation" preview of 2016. [ scanner beeping ] sir, could you step aside? "sir"? come on. you know who i am.
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welcome back. it's the part of the show that my panelists have been dreading, predictions. what's going to happen in 2016? we'll get them on the record, and then hopefully embarrass them on national tv at this time next year. >> thanks, rev. >> will they be able to match donald trump's crystal ball? he claims to have predicted osama bin laden but his real track record is not so great. >> our president will start a war with iran, i believe that he will attack iran sometime prior to the election, because he thinks that's the only way he can get elected. if he wins, oil and gasoline through the roof, like never before. the candidates should be, in my opinion, mitt romney. now he'll go out. he's going to do very well against obama. i think he's going to beat obama.
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>> all right. who's the first victim? matt, what is your prediction? >> cruz wins the nomination by a nose over trump. the gop convention is a literally bloody affair, there will be at least one reporter walking around with a bloody nose. >> literally? >> yes, literally, and hillary wins in a landslide and the libertarian votes will get the most it's ever had. >> the republican party has to reckon whether it's a nativist party, a party for white people particularly white men but white people and the trump campaign has brought out these kind of implicit and these undercurrents of race and made it more explicit that he is defending the white, what used to be the white majority, it's the minority now against incursions of other people. i think this is the year the republican party especially if he gets the nomination which matt says he won't so i feel better, especially if he gets
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the nomination the republican party has to grapple with that. >> all of the pundits are so bad on predictions, i'm going to take a vacation to antarctica a year from now so you won't be able to humiliate me with my predictions on the show. lot of the folks saying they're voting for donald trump are saying it because he has high name recognition, a lot of that vote is going to fade and he will not get the nomination as a result of that. it will be someone, i'm going to say ted cruz because right now ted cruz looks like a moderate, although in '64 he would have been viewed as a far right looney, but i think he's going to be a little bit tougher for hillary to deal with because he doesn't generate as much of a negative bash back lash as trump does. >> thank you for being here and i hope you all have a great 2016. >> you, too. >> thanks, rev. still ahead, we'll shift gears to talk about bill cosby
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. this morning, we've been looking ahead to 2016, but there two are big stories this past week that we need to talk about. bill cosby, criminally charged for an alleged sexual assault in 2004 in pennsylvania. cosby has repeatedly denied the accusation, saying under oath he had consensual sexual contact with the woman. over 50 women have come forward to accuse cosby of sexual misconduct, but this is the first criminal charge filed against him. this week, we also got news out of ohio, a grand jury declined to indict any officers in the death of 12-year-old tamir rice.
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he was killed by a cleveland police officer last year. >> based on the evidence they heard and the law as it applies to police use of deadly force, the grand jury declined to bring criminal charges against police officers timothy lawman and frank garnback. that was also my recommendation and that of our office after reviewing the investigation and the law. >> the family of tamir rice says the prosecutor deliberately sabotaged the case and called on the federal government to investigate. joining me is msnbc national correspondent joy reed, who has covered both of these stories extensi extensively. thank you for being here, joy. >> thanks, rev. >> let's start with tamir rice, 12-year-old on film, police pull up on film, on the video, and in
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seconds, shoot. how do you see this outrage in the community? i've been out there several times throughout the process with the family. your reaction? >> well, rev, i think as you know there was definitely outrage, not a lot of surprise. tim mcginty the prosecutor telegraphed really for a year that he did not intend to prosecute the two police officers. he put out expert reports the family said were biased from outside experts justifying the shooting and i think the only surprise here is that tim mcginty went through a grand jury process rather than make the decision himself, which he certainly had the right to do. he bypassed the judges recommendation there be charges and bypassed the family's request for a special prosecutor and recused himself in the case and he got the outcome that he clearly intended. >> isn't this another indication with many of us in the civil rights community talk about why you need outside prosecute ares, special prosecutors like we've done in new york or the federal government because prosecutors
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and police with their relationship that is so intertwined very rarely, "the washington post" did a big story this week, very rarely come with indictments and even when they do, they usually do not succeed at trial. >> exactly, and in this case tim mcginty did not succeed in the michael breilo police officer involved in the 137 shot death of two unarmed civilians, and severing that close relationship between the prosecutor and police is really impossible. prosecutors rely on the same police officers to be their key witnesses when they are bringing cases to trial. there's a symbiotic relationship and so without a special prosecutor being involved the only other remedy and you'd know this as well as i, rev, really is the ballot box because the only other disincentive for prosecutors is losing election. >> this prosecutor is up in march in chicago, let me go to
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bill cosby. bill cosby accusations over 50, but this is the first criminal charge and clearly this is the first time we've seen someone of his stature, a tv mainstream american tv america's dad criminally charged. what does this mean? >> well here again, we see the intervention or excuse me the cross-section of politics and law because when this current prosecutor was running for election, part of what he did was run against the previous prosecutor's failure to bring charges in 2004. >> he had it in his tv commercial. >> had tv commercials accusing the republican incouple bet of failing to prosecute cosby and vowing to do it. he came right up at the dead line where the statute of limitations would run out. it fulfills a campaign promise. what we've seen here is these kinds of cases really can gain an import in the political
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process and prosecutors can be incentivized as this one was to get justice for the victims. >> and you see the trial will be in the county. it is not in philadelphia and it's a mostly affluent kind of community. >> that's right. >> so the jury pool will not be considered the urban community that has a lot of respect and administration for cosby, even after the allegations. >> exactly and you cannot separate or obviously because we are in the united states of america you can't separate race ever but bill cosby has the trump card of celebrity of course, irrespective of race but this is a case of mainly white victim in this particular case the victim is a white woman. bill cosby, african-american his support base such that he has. i have to tell you moat african-americans i talked to feel the same way, the majority of the community does, outraged about the allegations but yes indeed and it's highly unlikely according to attorneys i talked to that it would be moved.
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this will take place in this pennsylvania county. >> joy reid, thank you for your time this morning. >> thanks, rev. that does it for me. thanks for watching. i'll see you back here next week. ♪ and then santa's workers zapped it right to our house. and that's how they got it here. cool. the magic of the season is here at the lexus december to remember sales event. this is the pursuit of perfection. it takes a lot of work... but i really love it.s. i'm on the move all day long... and sometimes, i just don't eat the way i should. so i drink boost® to get the nutrition that i'm missing. boost complete nutritional drink has 26 essential vitamins and minerals, including calcium and vitamin d to support strong bones and 10 grams of protein to help maintain muscle. all with a great taste. i don't plan on slowing down any time soon. look for savings on boost® in your sunday paper.
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