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matters in order to win second place new hampshire. >> everybody is trying to set up a rule that only they can win. >> and nikki haley is saying i'm going to punch somebody. >> thank you all. we will be back tomorrow. with all due respect starts right now. with all due respect to the speculation only one ticket matters tonight. we're right outside the bay center arena here in pensacola, florida. donald trump is only a massive rally here tonight. barry man alow has a concert in this venue in a couple weeks.
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we talked to trump supporters as they arrived here all day for this rally. first our brand new bloomberg politics, the iowa poll is out today. shows ted cruz and donald trump leading the pack in the hawkeye state within the margin of error. cruz is at 25 and dropped six points. trump is at 22. he is up. a long way to development. trump versus cruz has occurred. the lone star state senator made a major shift. until now he held his tongue. that detante is over. here is the back and forth between the top gop rivals in the last 24 hours. >> what is he getting out there with born in the usa? >> i think he may shift in his new rallies to playing new york,
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new york. donald comes from new york and he embodies new york values. and listen, the donald seems to be a little bit rattled. >> when you are a citizen of canada and you were born in canada there is a question. a lot of people say you have to be born of the land meaning on the land. i read numerous articles. there was a big article the other day in the "washington post" from a different group of lawyers saying the same thing. >> i will note that mr. trump is relying on ultraleft wing liberal law professors at harvard to make the argument and the same ones are major supporters for hillary clinton. >> i do like ted cruz but not a lot of evangelicals come out of cuba. >> anytime someone is attacking your faith that starts to suggest they are getting nervous about what is happening in the race. >> nationwide i'm beating ted cruz by a lot with the
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evangelicals. i think i'm going to do well in iowa. i think i will do very well in iowa. i like ted cruz. he has a basic problem but i like ted cruz. >> as they say in backgammon, the gloves are off. maybe it is not backgammon. has ted cruz chosen the right moment to start hitting back? >> it might be too late. you are starting to see him hit back and it is not too late in the context of where the caucuses are. we are 2 1/2 weeks in iowa terms in caucus terms that is a long way. but i think he is hitting back now and the reason is because he has begun his slide. >> i think he timed it to the debate. i think trump escalated and didn't stop. it was important for him to get practice, practice the notion before the debate. i think tomorrow night there is speculation who is in the spot light and taking on whom. i think these guys whether moderators force it or not you
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will see action. given the standing not just in iowa poll this is the matchup everybody is watching. >> i want to go to a different point not about the timing of it which we can quibble over but over the substance of the nature of the defense. i just think that trying to win this argument on ultraliberal left wing lawyers it is weak beer. if you try to go against donald trump you have to come up with something stronger than that. >> stipulating it is not clear what is effective against trump. i think saying he is rattled is a shot maybe he thinks he can rattle trump. i think new york values is where cruz will try to go. people in iowa as nice as they are to us when we visit from gotham city new york values means something. >> ted cruz son of princeton and
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harvard law school will have a hard time making the elitest case against donald trump. just below trump and cruz in our new poll are ben carson and marco rubio battling it out for the third ticket out of iowa. everyone else in this race at or below 5%. carson is still leading on evangelical. and 12% just before marco rubio. it's not all clear sailing ahead for rubio with expecting someone to go after him for his participation in the gang of eight immigration legislation. that moment is here. supporting cruz spending 200 grand targeting early states for the new digital video. and being praised by barack obama and chuck schumer.
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>> yesterday a bipartisan group of senators announced their principles for immigration reform which are much in line for what i proposed. >> the gang of eight wrapped up months of negotiations and will present a bill that includes a pathway to citizenship. the man at the center of bringing this together republican senator from florida, marco rubio. >> his finger prints are all over that bill. >> he resisted. >> he understood it. he molded it. he made it. >> so this is just a web video. it's not a real ad. there are no real dollars behind it. it shows you the shape of the hammer, the immigration hammer that is about to come down on marco rubio's head. knowing the shape of the hammer, how much damage can the hammer do? >> my hats off to whoever did it. it tells the story in a very accessible way. the pa, it shows rubio behind the podium laughing, enjoying
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the company of chuck schumer and working on this bill. i think the rubio people believe they have a comeback. it is the case there is so much noise it is possible people waited too long. there is going to be paid media on this issue. it remains as confident as the rubio team is that they can fight this off to me the shape of the hammer suggests this is as big a problem as candidates faced. >> you took a while to wander around the truth. this is a big problem for marco rubio. i'm surprised it has taken this long to get here. the content of that ad, the substance of the argument is powerful in this party at this moment as the people here at this truck rally will attest. >> cruz may have waited too long. people could have done serious damage to rubio in november and december. the cruz campaign have a lot of money in the bank.
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if cruz is not successful people question the decision to not use it earlier. last night after president obama's final state of the union address nikki haley, the daughter of indian immigrants. her speech was one that is hard to execute standing out there. it is often a failure. haley got good remarks and called out the angry voices in the party and acknowledged she was referring to donald trump. the reaction to the speech within the party was split to say the least. a couple of examples, paul ryan praised haley on twitter for pushing a positive message of unity. jeb bush called it a clear vision for a brighter future. however, some leading conservative voices panned what haleysaid. radio host laura ingram said she missed the opportunity to stand with people. conservative columnist tweeted
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trump should deport nikki haley. what do these reactions tell us about the current status of trump in the party and of the debate within the party? >> republican party does not welcome the message of nikki haley and a messenger like nikki haley with open arms. this is a relatively small thing compared to tectonic things going on in the republican party. it is illustrative of how deep those are. saying nikki haley should be deported is ugly rhetoric from somebody who is supposedly an ally. >> step back another piece of this. you have the prospect of the person chosen to give the official republican response acknowledging she used part of her remarks not to criticize president obama or hillary clinton but the man who is overwhelming front runner for the republican nomination and leading big in her own state. >> when i say there are deep cleavages there are deep cleave
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mgs and passion on both sides. she is as passionate about donald trump negatively as ann colter is about nikki haley. >> this foreshadows the fight we will see if donald trump wins combination iowa, new hampshire, south carolina. we will see a titanic fight within the party unlike i can recall seeing in my career. >> not just titanic in size but consequence. this is a fight for the soul of the future of the republican party. up next, latest clinton/sanders salvo. we have master pollster. we return to the site of donald trump's mega superduper rally here in pensacola, florida after this. do you love your wireless keyboard more than certain family members? is your success due to a filing system only you understand? does printing from your tablet to your wireless printer
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big political headline yesterday was hillary and chelsea clinton's attacks on
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bernie sanders' record on guns and health care. the headline today sanders strikes back. here is how the vermont senator defended himself on msnbc earlier today. >> to say i'm kind of a supporter of the nra is really a mean spirited and unfair and inaccurate statement. i am waiting to hear whether secretary clinton has changed her views from 2008 and whether or not she will support an expansion of social security benefits for millions of elderly people. now she is attacking me because i support universal health care. in 2008 she was attacking obama because obama was attacking her because she supported universal health care. i hope that secretary clinton will tell the american people does she support universal health care. >> team sanders also took to twitter to offer a cheekier and in some ways more powerful
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repost. a black and white picture featuring sanders and clinton. at the bottom is a note from hillary that says to bernie sanders. thanks for your commitment to real health care access for all americans. mark, my question for you, how well is sanders dealing with clinton going negative on him? >> in sanders appearance today and in that awesome archival photo they are playing major league response on this and they are fired up because they believe the clinton health care attack is both ineffective and disingenuous. let's not fall into the trap of thinking that just because sanders has momentum that clinton is out of this. she is in this fight. they are facing an opponent who is pushing back cleverly, confidently and smartly. >> the sanders campaign is on defense still over the gun thing. she has the upper hand on that issue. >> she left it to do health
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care. >> she moved on to the health care argument. i had back and forth with the clinton campaign yesterday. the bottom line is they are trying to argue that bernie sanders who wants single payer health care is going to strip health care coverage for millions of americans. it is just not going to fly. at first blush it is ridiculous. >> if you ask a lot of hillary clinton supporters in their heart including people who work for her they would like single payer. i don't think it is effective. they had a debate on sunday. sanders has not been as good in the debates as he has in other parts of the campaign. that debate becomes huge. as you may have noticed on the program here last night we were stunned to hear chelsea clinton go negative on bernie sanders, the first time she had done such a thing. today on good morning america hillary clinton differented her daughter and welcomed chelsea.
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>> i adore my daughter. and i know what she was saying because if you look at senator sanders' proposals going back nine times in the congress that is exactly what he has proposed. >> so we probably won't know if this tone is the new normal for chelsea on the trail. her next campaign event is scheduled for saturday in iowa. more striking perhaps was a lack of interest that most of the news world had to her remarks. very few colleagues were as blown away by chelsea's rhetoric as we were. were we crazy to think this was a huge deal? >> i do not think we were crazy. you will be surprised to know. i think we were right. you have a lot of blowback on this yesterday. i want to be clear. chelsea clinton has every right to campaign for defend her
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mother. it is unprecedented in history on planet earth where she has attacked one of her mother's political opponents, in a presidential contest, senate contest. the reason why we thought it was important is it indicated the depth of the clinton world's concern about the momentum of bernie sanders. that is why it is meaningful. >> it is meaningful because this is chelsea clinton. she is the daughter of president, the daughter of a potential president, a historical figure in our country. we have watched her grow up. yesterday was the day when she decided to assume a different role than she had ever played in the history of us following the clintons. i believe that maybe people think you have to lay off chelsea clinton because she is now an adult and she is a campaign surrogate attacking bernie sanders. the offerems s seems ridiculous
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>> it is muscle memory with a lot of the media. people remember shielding chelsea when she was a kid. i think in some ways people have not talked about it because they are aghast and stunned. coming up, great data detective ann selser in mysteries about trump and cruz. [ cough ] no matter what nasty cold symptoms you get, alka seltzer plus liquid gels rush liquid fast relief to your tough cold symptoms. and they outsell mucinex liquid gels 2 to 1. alka seltzer plus liquid gels. was going to clean if an better than a manual? he said sure. but don't get just any one. get one inspired by dentists. with a round brush head. go pro with oral-b. oral-b's rounded brush head cups your teeth to break up plaque and rotates to sweep it away. and oral-b delivers a clinically proven superior clean
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our next guest represents the gold standard of polling. the pride of des moines joins us now from gotham city. thanks for joining us. as we said earlier the poll shows a two person race at the top of the field, cruz and trump tied within the margin of error. let's talk about trump first since he is the national leader. what are trump's strepngths? >> there are interesting groups here. people speculated that he may be bringing in first-time caucus goers. he leads with first-time caucus goers. that suggests they are there because of trump. he also does well with moderate voters. in iowa the republican caucus going public is an interesting group for trump. finally and probably most importantly he has a strong share of his supporters who say
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their minds are made up. they are locked in. and that is the most important thing you can do as a candidate is get your people to lock in when you have a big field of candidates. 64% is two out of three of his supporters say their mind is made up. >> how does that number compare to past candidates? is that a particularly large number to have? >> we are getting awfully close. you still have people who are keeping an open mind. the assignment iowa gets which is to look at largest. their neighbors will try to politic them into changing theirind moo. having two out of three say they won't budge is a good number. >> so always ask you the exact same question that mark started out with except let's apply to ted cruz. what do we know about ted cruz
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and who he is doing well with in iowa right now? >> ted cruz is doing well with groups that any candidate would wish to have. those groups most relybly show up on caucus night. people who caucused before know the drill and know where to go. seniors people aged 65 and over know the drill and have been there before. people who are very conservative. that is a group that they tend to be the hardest core of the hard core. he is doing especially well in the fourth district in iowa and that is a district where turnout is always higher than you would expect just based on population. it's a very republican district. beyond that they turn people out. that same is true of evangeli l evangelicals. you look at polling numbers and think that is the proportion going to be there. more evangelicals show up. with ted cruz having a 20 point advantage among evangelicals that is something in his corner
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that is nice to have. >> we did a deeper dive in this poll on ted cruz because of his prominence in the race now and beneath the horse race and geographics we asked a lot of questions about his background, campaign style. what did we find there interesting to you. >> interesting to me is the way that they cluster. you have people who really like him because he agitates and angers people in congress, the people he has to work with and that he has taken such a strong stance on immigration. those things kind of contrast with that he has christian values and that they expect that he will uphold those and that he has avoided criticizing trump. you kind of have the naughty and the nice. they both play well with iowa voters. >> the question of second choice matters a lot. what's the -- did you talk about
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that with respect to trump and cruz? >> second choice is a question that we always turn to because anything can happen, anything can change. kind of knowing what the backup choice is there. so many things in this poll show ted cruz and donald trump being kind of shadow images of each other. they have many of the same characteristics it is hard to separate them. there is not parody when it comes to second choice. 47% of trump supporters would vote for cruz as second choice. it is only 25% of donald trump supporters would -- of cruz supporters would vote for donald trump. >> so we are getting towards the end where there will be more polling before we get to the d day. but right now if you look at where trump is, where cruz is, is it possible to say that they both have advantages and
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disadvantages or does one of them seem to be better positioned? >> i think the biggest advantage that donald trump has is that a higher propiration of the people who support him say they cannot be moved. for ted cruz he has a higher proportion of people who say they will definitely show up on caucus night. it's kind of like the powerball, you can't win if you don't play. for ted cruz you can't win if your people don't show up. for donald trump that is his worry between now and caucus night. cruz to me has a small advantage of having more people who say they will definitely show up. for now small advantage cruz. >> we see a clear race for first? unless something extraordinary happens. is third place a two man race between ben carson and marco rubio or is there anything else who looks like they have the potential to get into the fight
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for third? >> i think it is between those two. if they are just a point apart it won't look like a clear third place winner. >> thank you so much. we will have the democratic numbers tomorrow at 6:00 a.m. up next trump talk with the washington post ace reporter after this. caring for someone with alzheimer's means i am a lot of things. i am his guardian. i am his voice. so i asked about adding once-daily namenda xr to his current treatment for moderate to severe alzheimer's. it works differently. when added to another alzheimer's treatment, it may improve overall function and cognition. and may slow the worsening of symptoms for a while. vo: namenda xr doesn't change how the disease progresses. it shouldn't be taken by anyone allergic to memantine, or who's had a bad reaction to namenda xr or its ingredients. before starting treatment, tell their doctor if they have, or ever had, a seizure disorder, difficulty passing urine,
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♪ we are back here in pensacola, florida where donald trump is holding yet another one of his famous mega rallies. here to talk about trump on the trail is the washington post jenna johnson. great to have you here. how many of these have you covered? >> dozens. i'm trying to think of a number, but dozens. >> they have become a signature
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of trump's campaign in 2016. from the beginning to now how have mega rallies changed if they have changed at all? >> in a lotf ways they are the same. he is getting big crowds especially when he is not in iowa or new hampshire or south carolina. when he is in places like pensacola he is getting thousands and thousands of people who are showing up. that has been happening since august. something that has changed is that people in the audience are having to decide if they want to vote for him or not. they are also learning his mess aglittle bit better. it's not new when he says we are going to build a wall to the point where he can say who is going to pay for it and the audience on cue responds back mexico. >> it is like the rocky horror picture show. everybody has seen the act but they love to go and repeat the lines. >> big question that you and
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everybody else grappled with, ground game. everybody says you have to give e-mail address, iowa, new hampshire, clipboards. what do you see at these events and does trump have a ground game? does he have ability to contact and get people out? >> that's the big question. what he is doing is different than what most campaigns normally do. most campaigns start with a list of people who usually go to primaries and work their way up and build from there. he is starting from scratch and collecting information of people. >> a trump voter file that they are building from scratch. again, i know you don't want to weigh in definitively. my growing suspicion is they are growing more of an operation than they are telling people because they want to surprise
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people? do you have that reporting or suspicion in. >> that is the impression that they want us to have. a big part of his strategy is if he can get 10,000 people to show up to a rally, if some percentage of them can go to a primary they think that they can win in a lot of states. of course, iowa is different with the caucuses. it is not a day long primary. people need to be in place by 7:00. so i think iowa is going to be the test. if he can win iowa that means there has been this under undgrostrundgrground strategy. if we see problems in iowa i think that will raise a lot of questions about what he is doing in other states. >> there is the ground game and then the air war. for a long time we waited. when would trump go on the air? he went on the air.
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had not done negative spots up until now. what will it take to get donald to go on air with a negative spot? >> you know, given up trying to predict anything with donald trump but he seems hesitant to spend money on television ads. last year he was saying he wanted to spend at least $2 million a week on ads. we still aren't seeing quite that level of spending. it doesn't seem to be something that he wants to invest in especially when he seems to be doing well in the polls. i think it will take a major change in the polls. he will need to feel threatened and feel like he needs to get his message out to more people much more quickly than he is. keep in mind, he is on television a lot. it might not be an ad but his face is on a lot of television sets every hour. >> you have done a very good job writing about these events and big rallies.
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they are still as big. at these mega events what are things that happen that you have written about or not, what is stuff that happens a little bit of color, what are they like? >> they are much louder. it does have the feeling of a circumstan circus or rock concert. people are waiting outside for hours to get in. you know, they are buying the hats and the flags and the signs and things like that. and the big difference between smaller events that trump does in iowa and new hampshire and big events like this is you can see him just feeding off the crowd. he gets so much energy off these crowds and they almost are egging him on. a lot of times when he will go a little bit further in a stance it's because he is just getting this very positive feedback from
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the crowd and he will just keep laying it on them to keep them cheering. >> let's talk about the current conflict in trump world. he has been working this birther angle on cruz's canadian past for a little while. cruz is finally hitting back. before trump went in this direction he seemed to be kind of struggling for a toe hole. how will i attack ted cruz if i have to. is this the line he is settled on, the canadian thing or do you think he will shift off that and go on to other anti-cruz topics. >> for now it seems to be working. we were bracing waiting for him to go there. one of my colleagues actually overheard ted cruz's wife at an event telling a supporter that they were expecting trump to go after ted cruz on this. everyone was waiting on this to happen. no one was sure how it was going to go over. you know, he kind of started off
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just throwing the idea out there and then the last couple of days we have seen him really ramp it up, really hit it hard. when i talk to people in the audiences afterwards they kind of agree with him that this is a question, that there are things about ted cruz that they didn't know. i think for as long as this is resonating he is going to keep with it. when he finds something that seems to resonate he keeps hammering. >> like a dog on a bone. so trump has tagged some opponents low energy. he has extraordinary stamina for a man his age or for anybody. i wonder as you observe him do you see him look or act tired or does he seem at the same level? >> i agree, he does have a lot of energy. i'm a little younger than he is and i'm exhausted. >> you have to keep up with him by commercial flight. >> you do see signs of it. usually his events go for at
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least an hour, hour and ten minutes. he's been going really hard and getting tired you will see him cut it off at 50 minutes. you will see him get up there and just not have as much energy as he normally does. back in december we were in iowa and he started losing his voice. he had done so many rallies in a row. so for a guy who really prides himself on being youthful, having a younger wife, having a 9-year-old son, not sleeping much, working all the time we do see those signs. >> stunning when he lost his voice because he is a candidate and deals with the rigors of the st trail the way a normal candidate does. it is striking. >> you are fantastic. i loved having you on. when we come back trump supporters in their own words, what they think about ted cruz
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line of trump supporters and other interested people here in pensacola, florida. they are waiting to see a big donald trump rally here that john and i will be covering in pensaco pensacola. the war of words is well represented here in line with trump supporters. we thought we would test the limits of the theory of whether trump supporters echo what he says. we tested it here. we asked the folks in line waiting to see donald trump what they thought of ted cruz and why trump over cruz. >> why do you prefer donald trump over ted cruz? >> because i think donald trump speaks to the population of america. he is addressing the fears and concerns that we have and that's why we are here. >> donald trump is more forward. he speaks up and he is speaking about everything that american people are sitting around the breakfast table saying. >> ted cruz is a smart guy, very
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constitutionally sound. >> ted cruz has the record to prove it. >> doesn't have the stamina that trump has. >> problem is he is a politician. politicians, they are all talk with no action because they are controlled by lobbiests so they can only get so much done. >> he is a politician. i wish he would talk to me and be real. when i hear him talk and see him talk i just see another mitt romney, somebody who will play by the rules and do the right thing and be nice and not be straightforward. >> with ted cruz he has a little bit of politician side. donald trump is more open. >> i do like ted cruz but i think he is going to be a little wishy-washy on some things trying to get favors here and favors there. >> particularly on his citizenship thing. >> i see ted as more appealing
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to republicans in general. i see donald trump appealing to not only republicans but independents and democrats. >> i just don't think he is the man. the man is donald trump. the donald. >> now we have donald trump who is an outsider, he is a businessman. he knows how to get things done. he has a record of getting things done. i'm past the point of having to have a true conservative. as long as we have somebody in there willing to fight for the american people. >> i think he would make a great vp. i would like to see that ticket. trump/cruz ticket. to me that would be great. >> i have been with trump supporters and cruz people and sanders folks. i am so impressed with the level of sophistication of the voters. they are following it so closely. they know what is going on not just in the trump campaign.
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>> this is what is going to be an election with a high degree of interest. and then you have these candidates who because they are outsiders, because they are insurgents and challenging the establishment are drawing up particular kiepd of voter. those voters are riveted. they are not low information voters. they may not be super sophisticated about a lot of things. they are observing the mechanics of this especially through cable television at a high level of intensity. they are picking up the campaign cues and talk the talk of politics in a way that is kind of novel. >> sunday night 8:00 on show time we debut the circus. we will look at the outsiders in this race. again, talking to people here today, their supporters have energy. they are passionate about the country and change. same with the cruz supporters and the sanders supporters.
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and they believe in their candidate as a person and believe in their candidate's ideas. true of other candidates, too. 15,000 people is powerful. >> just a slight tweak on it. they are pissed off. there is a pissed off quality. they are ready to rip something down and put something in that doesn't look like what is there before. >> they are outsiders who say washington has to change. they don't need to convince the people that this event has to change. >> wall street has to change. a lot of things have to change. >> the other thing is in the past when reporters including for television you try to talk to people in line. trump supporters, cruz supporters, sanders supporters talk, talk, talk. the success rate is like 90%. it is re that i ask to talk to a trump supporter. it is rare where they are like put me on tv. >> and there used to be a lot of times when we covered campaigns in the past when there was a
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rallies which got us thinking about candidates and their favorite tunes on the campaign trail. >> reporter: one of my favorite traditions is whenelebrity musicians get angry because politicians use their songs without permission in primary events. all politicians are looking for musical cues to strike emotional cords in the audience even if the meanings of the songs are exact opposite of what a politician may believe. no one listens to lyrics of born in the usa. it is now a law of the political universe happening over and over again. politicians not realizing the message of the songs they are adopting and it is no different this year. ♪ it's the end of the world as we know it ♪ >> donald trump drew the eye when he played it's the end of the world as we know it and i
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feel fine. quote go blank yourselves you sad attention grabbing power hungry little men. do not use our music or my voice for your charade of a campaign. more interesting are the artist whose do align themselves with a particular candidate. trump enters rallies with "we are not going to take it" by twisted sister. the choice which frontman endorsed. >> i support his spirit and attitude. people are not going to take it anymore. >> bernie sanders has a wide spection of supporters from killer mike to anthony ketus. he has the endorsement of one of the presidents of the united states of america. not that guy. that guy, the guy with the
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peaches song. hillary is big with musicians. katy perry sang firework at a hillary campaign rally in iowa. ♪ baby you're a firework >> let's not leave out poor martin o'malley the murphy's love him. are you curious who kid rock is supporting? the answer, ben carson. >> the guy makes a lot of sense to me. >> reporter: rand paul has the loudest supporter, the lead singer of korn is into rand paul. how about mike huckabee's support from tony orlando? no word yet on don. personal favorite of carly fiorina and the tones of -- there is one of the most
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prominent well known musicians in the world right now, jesse hues, the lead singer of eagles of death metal, the band playing the show when terrorists attacked. the band escaped and played a benefit concert in paris. with bono handing the microphone. he is a donald trump supporter. jesse, donald, i feel like you two should meet. >> interesting piece. a trump supporter. kind of incredible. a piece of music for a campaign rally matched up better than lights for barack obama 2008. >> that is pretty -- bill clinton doesn't stop thinking about tomorrow. our thanks to will leech for
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we are live 24/7 on balookbubaloo the poll coming out tomorrow morning at 6:00 a.m. eastern. >> hit refresh starting at about 5:55. tomorrow we have a preview show. we will also have our sit down interview with mr. donald trump. ooeng it is one of the last interviews before the debate. lot to discuss including the current face-off with ted cruz as the two of them claimed to say it is a two person race. >> every republican debate has seemed to be a big debate. they have all mattered. something about as we get closer to not just closer to voting in iowa and new hampshire but because of the sorting happening in the field and the way in which cruz and trump are squared
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off with each other. every time we predicted big fist to cuffs it is happening tomorrow night. >> south carolina debates both parties tend to be raucous. i don't know if there is liquor served at this one. >> usually the crowd is drunk. >> they are fired up and i think there is something about these debates in south carolina and in both parties you are seeing hillary clinton john edwards, barack obama, jane mccain, george bush. >> newt gingrich in 2012. every cycle seems to have a drunk debate. >> with a little luck tomorrow will be the drunk debate. >> i will do my part. >> ted cruz will be more in the spot light than he has been in any of the debates. for all of us here in pensacola, big trump rally here we will be covering, our poll, iowa poll on
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the democrats. you want to see that at 6:00 a.m. eastern. for our whole crew here in pensacola, thanks for watching. we'll see you tomorrow from south carolina. "hard ball" starts right now. is ted cruz a canadian anchor baby? let's play hardball. good evening i'm chris matthews back in washington. the republicans hooted and hollered that president obama was born in kenya. they forced him to show his birth certificate showing he was fwo born in hawaii. now trump is going after ted cruz saying he was born in canada. what will cruz do about it? isn't this a problem forict center


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