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banned from the uk but the british parliament had a lively, healthy debate about it. and regardless of party affiliation he did all seem to feel more or less the same way about our republican presidential front-runner. >> i hope you didn't stop showing the british parliament just because my tv show was coming on because i would have been happy to listen to that stuff for the rest of the night. >> just hear that one guy pronounce the word idiot over and over and over again is satisfying. >> and speaking of donald trump, i got another personal note from him. and in the interest of full transparency on my communication with presidential candidates, i will be sharing that with the world tonight. >> i am envious of your position sort of. >> by the time you get home, rachel, you you will be able to turn it on and see what he said. >> thanks, lawrence. >> thanks, rachel. ted cruz' campaign spokesman will join us tonight to answer
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donald trump's personal attacks on ted cruz and we will take up the debate between hillary clinton and bernie sanders over health care. >> tom brady was framed. and i have it on good authority that hillary clinton did it. >> the truth is he's a nasty guy. >> it seems donald has a lot of nervous energy. >> donald trump calls you nasty, hated by everybody. is he right? >> he's a nasty guy. nobody likes him. >> look, donald seems rattled. >> my good friend cruz. >> nobody in congress likes him. >> ted cruz was born in canada. he can't be president. >> clearly i'm not canadian. canadians are well liked. i am not. >> whatever you want to say, cruz is not a nasty guy. >> it's not a good thing for the country. very nasty guy. >> i think this man is crazy. >> his words are not comical. his words are not funny. his words are poisonous. >> isis needs donald trump and
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donald trump needs isis. >> you have a socialist and you have hillary. >> president obama has led our country out of the great recession. >> 2008 i did my best to see what he was elected. in 2012, re-elected. >> he would raise taxes on the middle class also. is that correct? >> yes, some middle class families. >> clearly we need to beat expectations on caucus night. >> 14 days to go before the iowa caucuses the front-runners in iowa who for. months never said a bad word about each other now can't think of a single nice thing to say. >> they all hate him for a lot of reasons but they all hate him. and by the way, he's attacked me so when he attacks me, as you know, i'm a counter puncher. >> you are. we learned that early. all right. >> you have all seen a lot of people attack me and you see where they are right now. but he attacked me first. >> the nastiest presidential campaigner in modern history thinks the other guy is nastier
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than he is. >> the truth is he's a nasty guy. he was so nice to me. i knew it. i was watching. i kept saying, come on, ted, let's go, kid. he's a nasty guy. nobody likes him. nobody in congress likes him. nobody in congress likes him, when they get to know him. you can't make deals with people like that. it's not a good thing. it's not a good thing for the country. very nasty guy. >> the nastiest and richest radio talk show host in history jumped into the fight today. >> i think trump going after cruz is quite normal. it's understandable. but i think he's making a tactical error the way he's doing it. whatever you want to say, cruz is not a nasty guy. when you get into criticism it better be believable. trump free to criticize cruz all he wants as far as i'm concerned but going after him as a nasty guy on this birther business,
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he's got to worry that it's going to create more negatives within his own support base rather than turn people off to cruz. >> in the latest iowa poll released last week by the des moines register, ted cruz and donald trump are tied within the margin of error with ted cruz at 25% and donald trump at 22%. today in new hampshire it fell to the intrepid halle jackson to ask ted cruz if everybody really hates him. >> donald trump called you nasty, hated by everybody. is he right? >> well, look, donald seems a little bit rattled. i understand. he's losing support and going down in the polls. it seems his response is to attack and get personal. i don't intend to respond in kind. >> in new hampshire today ted cruz went after donald trump on policy. >> i would note that ronald reagan spent decades as a principled conservative, spent
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decades traveling the country sharing his conservative free market views, defending the constitution. ronald reagan did not spend the first 60 years of his life supporting democratic politicians, advocating for big government politics, supporting things like the t.a.r.p. big bank bailout, supporting things like expanding obamacare to turn it into socialized medicine. that's not what ronald reagan did. >> joining us now, rick tyler, national spokesman for the republican presidential candidate ted cruz and columnist of hrc, state secreting and the rebirth of hillary clinton, and james pendle, political reporter at the boston globe. rick tyler, i have some late-breaking news. trump versus cruz news from twitter. this is donald trump tweeting within the hour saying, i don't think ted cruz can even run for president until he can assure republican voters that being born in canada is not a problem.
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doubt! and the second trump poll -- trump tweet that's come out just within the last few minutes. ted cruz is falling in the polls. he is nervous. people are worried about his place of birth and his failure to report his loans from banks. rick tyler, your response. >> well, he's kind of surprising when you said late-breaking news. i had no idea you were going to announce a tweet. >> at this hour, rick, that's where the news is made. >> yeah. look, donald trump was a really nice guy when he was winning and he was happy when he was winning but he doesn't like to lose. he's not doing as well as he would like to do and he's turning mean. it's never about substance or policy issues. it's about he's birther nonsense which he keeps going after even though it's not doing him any good. no one believes it. everybody is repudiated it. he can persist but i think he ends up looking marginalizing himself.
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>> one of the problems for the cruz campaign is that really there are virtually no legal authorities who have repudiated it and we're going to listen to ted cruz constitution allow teacher at harvard law school and what he said about it on this program. here's laurence tribe. >> without amending the constitution or definitive ruling from the u.s. supreme court it's just wrong to say as senator cruz has tried to say that it's a settled matter. it isn't settled. >> and jonathan allen, that's what really ignited the issue. donald trump just throwing it around didn't mean much until he started getting support on the doubt issue. i mean, on trump's tweet you notice the last word of it is just doubt. and laurence tribe shares that doubt. >> well, laurence tribe is a better lawyer than i am and so is ted cruz. a little classed on both of those sides. i think what laurence tribe said is not that ted cruz is ineligible to run for president but that it's not settled. it's not something that's come
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before the supreme court before. i think if ted cruz would win the electoral counts the supreme court would be hard pressed to deny him the presidency and it's hard to see a case making it forward before now and then, you know, stranger things have happened. one of the things that's really interesting going on right now though in this fight between cruz and trump is trump seems to be liking the argument that ted cruz isn't american enough and ted cruz seems to be making the argument or stories in places is that donald trump isn't christian conservative enough. i think they're both trying to fight that and i think we're going to get a slingshot effect after iowa and new hampshire that intensifies in the south. i'm curious to hear what rick has to say about how the cruz forces are going to try to keep donald trump from portraying himself as a christian conservative going forward. we saw him at liberty university earlier today. >> we worked very hard to get support of the evangelical vote. we have three full-time people dedicated to it. 250 pastors in iowa alone.
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300 national evangelical leaders have endorsed ted cruz and those continue to roll out. we announced our campaign right there at the world's largest university at jerry falwell's christian university, liberty university, lynchburg, virginia. so we're con fit dent that we've done well with those voters. by the way, before march 15, 11 states that have 50% evangelical vote and some of those more, so if you go from georgia, mississippi, alabama, tennessee, oklahoma, louisiana, arkansas, oklahoma -- and texas, all of those have 50% more, some like tennessee have 70% more. the evangelical vote is definitely front-loaded and we're poised to do very well with those voters. >> why is trump doing so well in some of those states though? there's a georgia poll relatively recently that had him up 20, 30 points. why if those states are so conducive to a christian conservative candidate such as cruz and not conducive to a
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trump candidate who seems to be emphasizing his faith a lot more in the last couple of weeks, why are we seeing polls that have trump at big leads though? >> well, trump has had a lead since july. and over that time people -- a lot of his supporters have not really known a lot of the names of the other candidates. and so they've always wanted an outsider and now they're starting to look at cruz. in the beginning when trump was up at about -- in july, about we tested that and it was really single digits of trump supporters come over to us. today that number is 50%, 60%. i credit a lot of that to the debates where you had millions of people watch and they saw ted cruz and then they've gotten more educated about the campaign and they realize that, you know, look, here's a guy who actually went to washington, did what he said he was going to do, stood up to the establishment. both in the democrats and republican party with the central question that donald trump is raising is we have to
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change washington. the next question would be, well, who has already tried to change washington, who stood up to the cartels in washington and that's ted cruz. and i think that's why a lot of donald trump supporters in iowa have come over to our side. >> james pendle, it seems that donald trump and an assortment of law professor have written law review articles about this have raised enough doubt address ted cruz to impact voters. there's a reuters poll that indicate 25% of republicans say that ted cruz, they believe ted cruz is disqualified to serve as president because of his -- the circumstances of his birth in canada. it's actually a bit worse among all voters, 27% of all voters, 28% of independents. that's going to be a difficult thing to counter. i'm not sure how you do the 32 ad about that. >> look, this race is increasingly becoming a two-person contest between trump
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and cruz on the ground. and while we're talking about this fact that he was born in canada and we're talking about other issues about donald trump being ronald reagan, i think what's important to recognize is they're only talking about these two candidates. we're not talking about jeb bush, we're not talking about marco rubio and chris christie. i guess the question i have for rick is, look, we saw two candidates go head to head in iowa in 2004. howard dean and richard gephardt. they got so nasty they took each other out. how will you know -- this is getting to the point where this is actually being detrimental to both campaigns. >> well, first of all, let me go back and since we're going to talk about the circumstances of ted cruz' birth, the circumstances are this. that, is ted cruz' mother who is born in delaware, who has been an american citizen her entire life, went to canada for a job. ted cruz was born in canada. and he returned at 4 years old. in the law there's only two ways to become a u.s. citizen.
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one is you are naturally born citizen and that is you are born to an american parent which ted cruz was or you were naturalized. ted cruz was not naturalized so he is a natural born citizen. that's the definition of a natural born citizen. that's off the table. laurence tribe also agrees that ted cruz is a natural born citizen even though he pretends to -- >> no, just to be clear, laurence tribe believes, just to give you credit, laurence tribe believes that the argument you're making right now is the better of the possible arguments. what he says is -- what he says is the supreme court has never decided it and he agrees that to have absolute clarity on it we would need a constitutional amendment. >> he has raised the doubt and he has said that but he has also said personally he believes that ted cruz is eligible. he's said that. he told "the new york times" reporter that. so, look, there really isn't any doubt. and i want to be fair to james because i forgotten his question, the originally asked
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me. >> it was a great one. is it possible that cruz versus trump will destroy both of them and maybe emerge -- allow rubio or somebody else to emerge? >> yeah, that's a great question. one thing is you notice who is doing the name calling and the invective and we are sticking to the policies and the differences. also policy differences between candidates and how they would govern are helpful to people. they don't view it as negative at all. they view it positive. calling people nasty and calling them names and raising up silly birther issues i don't think is helpful to donald trump. he can keep doing it but it's not helpful. >> rick, if trump stops talking about it. right now you have 28% of all voters thinking -- 27% i guess of all voters thinking that ted cruz is ineligible. how would you counter that in a campaign? >> well, just like i said, most people don't know that he was born to an american mother who was in canada on a job. so that would be -- the way to
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say it is, look, every service man, everybody is on a mission, you know, like a christian mission over seas who has children overseas. and even the founding fathers, a lot of them, they were ambassadors. john kinsey adams was an ambassador, john adams was an ambassador. the idea that john quincy adams' children born over sea, they weren't, but -- >> i guess you have no answer. that's not a campaign answer if if you don't have a 30-second answer, you don't have a campaign answer. if you're making up hypotheticals about presidents' kids who were not, in fact, born overseas -- >> well, john mccain was not born in the united states. george romney was not born in the united states. larry goldwater was not born in the united states and they were all nominees -- george wasn't but the other two were. so there's precedent for this already. >> look, my job is to cover the campaign on the ground, particularly in iowa and in new hampshire.
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the only people bringing up this birth -- this citizenship issue for ted cruz are people who already don't support him. if ted cruz were to become the nominee there's no reason to believe they wouldn't finally back him with the republicans. >> i'm going to leave it there for tonight. rick tyler, james allen, rick pendell, thank you. coming up, bill o'reilly is going to tell you exactly what you can do to get him to give up on america and move to his ancestral home country of ireland. and we will be joined by a bernie sanders supporter and a hillary clinton supporter to debate health care. and tonight's "last word" will be a personal word from donald trump to me. i got to reply to my letter to donald trump which i read to you on this program last week. from mercedes-benz. it's got small-ability and big-ability.
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drifting into iranian waters. that was just the beginning of extraordinary news from iran. this weekend the international atomic energy agency certified that iran has comply with the terms of the nuclear deal. iran released five americans. they had been holding including "washington post" reporter jason rezaian in exchange the united states released seven iranians who were accused of crimes and 14 iranians were removed from a list of people wanted by interpol. joining us now hillary man leavitt, and the author of "going to tehran, why america must accept the islamic republic of iran." i want to listen to what rand paul had to say about what's happened here with the iran deal. >> you know i think when something good happens we ought to celebrate it. i think sometimes for partisan reasons politicians on both
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sides become sort of like wind up dolls and if the other side does something good they have to complain no matter how good it is. and i think we should celebrate. >> that may explain why rand paul is running at the bottom of the republican pact for president. but phyllis benace, the rest were much more predictable even with the success of iran attacking everything the president is trying to do. >> well, of course, because this has everything to do with president obama and nothing to do with diplomacy versus war. this was one more example and it was a great one of why diplomacy works better than war or threats of war. we have the prisoner exchange. we had the agreement by the u.n.'s watch -- nuclear watchdog agency iaea that iran has indeed complied with the requirements and therefore the sanctions could be lifted. this was a great victory. we're 2 for 2 here for diplomacy and 0 for war. that's a good thing. we should be celebrating that. rand paul for whatever reason is right on this and the fact that
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people are condemning it, the notion that a serious presidential campaign from any party would make the kinds of threats that we've been hearing about lighting up the sands, threats of using nuclear weapons, this notion that we will go after any country that takes any of our soldiers into custody, despite the fact that our own secretary of defense acknowledged that they had mistakenly, maybe it was a mistake, maybe not, but it was clearly their responsibility, not the iranians, that they strayed or went into iranianer istoryial waters. this was unbelievable. it was diplomacy that made it possible to get them released, to get the two war boats released, to do the prisoner exchange. this is all good news. >> let's listen to what -- >> it really is. i would -- >> hillary, let me get it on the table here. let's listen to what the front-runner of the republican nomination said about this. >> and we're getting four back,
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they're getting seven. they're getting 14 off of the interpol watch list. these are real bad customers. they're getting all sorts of advantages including free market oil. they're getting unbelievable advantages. they're going to be an immensely wealthy country and a wealthy terror country. >> hillary, what should voters who haven't followed this very closely know when they hear donald trump saying things like that? >> well, there are two things. one is there's this narrative coming out from republican candidates across the board, perhaps without -- accept for rand paul, that what obama has done with iran is profoundly important, strategically grounded diplomacy that he has done with iran. similar to what president nixon did with china. it's just as profound, just as important for the united states. this is narrative on the republican side that it somehow shows weakness about president obama.
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you know i spent a lot of time in the mid east and in china. and what shows weakness there from their perspective about us, what showed real weakness was that the united states deployed hundreds of thousands of troops to iraq and afghanistan, spent over a trillion dollars and failed. that showed weakness. what obama has done with iran has actually shown real strength. and we have the chinese president in fact is going to go to iran in about a week or so to follow in president obama's footsteps to try to solidify this deal with iran and the world is actually taking -- following america's lead in pursuing this kind of diplomacy. this is strength through leadership. what we had before with trillions of dollars wasted, hundreds of thousands of troops
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tonight. really appreciate it. >> thank you.
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and what would he say about a nation in which 29 million americans had no health insurance? and in a state where the governor refused to allow the people of this state to take advantage of medicaid expansion. >> health care access in america was the focus of last night's democratic debate on nbc. >> we have the affordable care act. that is one of the greatest accomplishments of president obama, of the democratic party, and of our country. and we have already seen 19 million americans get insurance. we have seen the end of pre-existing conditions keeping people from getting insurance. we have seen women no longer paying more for our insurance than men. and we have seen young people up to the age of 26 being able to stay on their parents' policy.
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there are things we can do to improve it, but to tear it up and start over again, pushing our country back into that kind of a contentious debate, i think is the wrong direction. >> to one is tearing this up. we're going to go forward. but with the secretary neglected to mention, not just the 29 million still have no health insurance, that even more are underinsured with huge co-payments and deductibles. tell me why we are spending almost three times more than the british who guarantee health care to all of their people? 50% more than the french, more than the canadians. the vision from fdr and harry truman was health care for all people as a right, in a cost effective way. we're not going to tear up the affordable care act. i helped write it. but we are going to move on top of that to a medicare for all system. >> andrea, andrea -- >> joining is austan goolsbee, former chair for president
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obama, currently a professor of economics at the university of chicago and hillary clinton supporter. also with us, karen higgins, registered nurse and co-president of national nurses union who endorsed bernie sanders for president. karen higgins, on the matter of health care why do you favor bernie sanders over hillary clinton? >> really the reason why is we do believe that health care is a right in this country. and we're watching the fallout as nurses, when we see people coming in that supposedly have health insurance and still can't afford the deductibles and the co-pays and we're seeing people that are in major debt because of health care costs. and this is the wrong -- this is the wrong direction. and so we're very excited. we believe in what senator sanders is saying and it is a program that we have been fighting for along with a lot of others like the afl-cio to have happen. we need to have health care for all, not health insurance but actual health care for everyone
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in this country. >> austan goolsbee, as bernie sanders keeps saying, there's 29 million people left out of the affordable care act. it's not just the affordable care act but of our entire health system now, medicare, medicaid, private insurance, affordable care, all of that. he's aiming as the obama reformers and the clinton reformers before them, he's aiming at that gap, he's aiming at all the people that are left out now. >> it's not just a gap. >> i agree. and we should. we should aim at trying to get a universal coverage to everyone that we can. and the affordable care act was a massive triumph in that direction. we added so many millions of people to the rolls as hillary clinton said. we got rid of pre-existing conditions. we had a whole bunch of triumphs and for all of us progressives. we fought, look at the congress. the affordable care act is under siege by republicans throughout congress, throughout the country. the thought of just saying,
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yeah, well, okay, that seemed like a triumph. but let's move on to something else. i just think that's the wrong approach. >> karen higgins, how do you see the affordable care act working in the marketplace now that you work in? >> i am a nurse. i am a working nurse. i would tell you that as far as it was maybe a little bit better than what we were seeing before, but we are still got a big problem here. and you know, kudos to those who have moved health care along. but we can't stop here. this is not good enough, what they're doing. we need to have health care that actually allows people to get care no matter what age they are. it is not, if you're on medicare you have better care than if you a 20-year-old, 30-year-old, 40-year-old. that is not acceptable. and you know, we're not going to stop here. s a nurses, we are going to determine that we are going to do a program that delivers health care to everybody in this country. so as much as they think they have made progress, the answer is not good enough and, no, we
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do need to take it on. we need to expand it out so that everybody gets medicare of some form which is basically what we're talking about at this point. >> you know, the only thing i would say to that is, bernie sanders released a plan that really isn't a plan. you got progressive experts like from paul krugman to ezra klein. as ezra klein said it wasn't a plan, it was, quote, puppies and rainbows. it's a humongous heavy lift to propose a single payer program like the one that sanders proposed which would require something like $15 trillion of new tax revenue to pay for it. if you're going to pros something as large as that, which exceeds the entire revenue that would be collected by the entire federal income tax combined, it is -- the onus is on you the proposer to have the details worked out. his plan has not worked out. >> no, the plans are worked out.
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i think if professor friedman as of umass amherst looked at this plan and he would, in fact, say $6 trillion over ten years in this country, it would cut back on people's that are paying now astronomical amounts to have insurance. that includes companies that are paying astronomical amounts to insure their people. it would cut that cost back. it would allow people to not only have jobs but to actually get raises in their jobs because they wouldn't have to worry about their health care. to say what injure saying is totally wrong. obviously i don't believe you've looked at the plan. i believe the economists have. this isn't the first one we've had look at this plan. it is a plan that will work. it will save money. it will -- again, provide more jobs. it will give people increase in their pay which is desperately needed. so, no, i don't think this is a problem. i think this is a solution to a problem. and we need to take this seriously as we move forward in this campaign. >> austan, on the question of --
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what the sanders plan does in effect is it replaces taxes for health insurance premiums. >> right. >> as economist, austan, are you emotionally neutral as to the word tax or premium, it's coming out of the same pocket? >> i could have emotionally neutral, i like that phrase for it. is question is, and i have looked at what the sanders campaign released and the note that came from the professor that she's indicating, but there's a very serious question as to whether it actually pays for what he's proposing. and by his own admission, they've got to raise something like $15 trillion of additional tax revenue. so i just think it needs to be worked out better. >> all right. >> i think -- >> karen, i'm sorry. we're going to have to leave it there for tonight. we're going to come back and continue this debate.
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there's so much to talk about in it including tax provisions and the affordable care act and in the sanders plan. a lot to talk about. thank you both for starting this debate for us. >> thank you. >> appreciate it. >> thank you very much. up next, idris elba not nominated for an academy award in "beast of no nation" which he should have been nominated for as should the movie have been nominated, explained the importance of diversity to the british parliament. i've been on my feel all day. i'm bushed! yea me too. excuse me...coming through! ride the gel wave of comfort with dr. scholls massaging gel insoles.
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and now for tonight's "last word" and this time it's a personal word from donald trump to me. last week i told you about my surprise at discovering in my office mail pile an envelope from donald trump that contained a check for $10,000 for the k.i.n.d. fund with a handwritten note on the check stub saying, lawrence, very good work on this. best wishes. donald. the check was written the day after we had victor on the show talking about how he helped me deliver that first classroom of desks in malawi five years ago and how victor helped create our partner ship with unicef for kids in need of desks that have now delivered desks to malawi schools and provided hundreds of scholarships for girls in malawi. donald trump wasn't the only person who contributed to the k.i.n.d. fund after seeing that segment but everyone else who contributed went to or
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called 1-800 forunicef. but donald trump was the only person who sent me a check and, as i said when told you about it it's completely understandable that he sent that check to me because we had never bothered to explain how to send a check to the k.i.n.d. fund and how to make that check out. and so i couldn't accept the check that donald trump sent me for two reasons. first, through no fault of donald trump's it was made out incorrectly. instead of being made out to u.s. fund nor unicef k.i.n.t.d. in the memo lined it was made out to kind. we had no way of process that check. it made it invalid. unicef could not have deposited that check if i passed it on to him. there was another reason why i couldn't accept donald trump's check which i explained to him in a letter which i read to you just before sending it to him.
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dear donald, thank you very much for your generosity, unfortunately in our current positions, i cannot accept or pass along a check from you for any purpose. i hope you will understand this predicament and i hope that when your campaign is over or when your presidency is over you will resend this check because the need will still be there. classrooms in malawi will still need desks. girls will still need football help to go to high school. in the meantime, to assure the immediate fulfillment of your generous intent, i have written my own personal check for $10,000 to the u.s. fund for unicef that i am sending to unicef in place of yours. yours sincerely, lawrence.
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needless to say i wasn't exactly sure how donald trump would react to that letter. i meant it sincerely and i wanted him to take it sincerely. well, now i know. i believe that all of my dealings with the presidential candidate on a matter like this should be completely transparent. and so donald trump and i have had no communication about this other than his original note to me and my letter of reply to him, both of which i've read to you. and now his note replying to my letter which i received at my msnbc e-mail address with the subject line "a note from donald j. trump." and here it is. lawrence, just got your note. very nice. your sending a check is class. you'll have mine in eight years!
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best wishes, donald j. trump. and so, donald j. trump gets tonight's "last word." >> two weeks out, we're in the red zone. let's play "hardball." good evening, i'm chris matthews in washington with just two weeks to go to iowa. donald trump and ted cruz have gone to total war. today, cruz is calling trump rattled. he already called him unstable. trump accuses cruz of being illegal as a presidential candidate. a fraud for mocking new york while grabbing a huge loan from goldman sachs. he also says he has a nasty personality and can't get deals


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