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the first time. it's like being born again and i just really feel proud to be an american. >> amazing to hear from him and you will hear much more from amir hekmati in just a few minutes. we see his brother-in-law standing by his side there. they never gave up on getting him out of iran's clutches. i'm thomas roberts. good to have you with me today. first up on this super tuesday, the race for 2016 and iowa, iowa, iowa. all about location, right? we are now less than two weeks out of the caucuses in the hawkeye state this hour. we have senator bernie sanders who will campaign in carroll at any minute and he's looking to gain more ground in the fight for the democratic nomination. the senator making his case earlier today. >> from the bottom of my heart, above and beyond ideas, if you want somebody who is going to beat donald trump, who is going to beat the other republicans, i think bernie sanders is that candidate. >> speaking of which, donald trump, he knows a thing or two about real estate. he is canvassing iowa today.
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he will hold two rallies this afternoon seeking to surge ahead in a very tight race with gop rival ted cruz. trump's camp teasing ahead to a quote, major announcement and there's buzz not confirmed by nbc that this major announcement could be the endorsement of one-time vp candidate, former alaska governor sarah palin. here was trump earlier today in iowa. >> we have a tremendous event planned in a little while that will be a very big event that i think you will be very impressed. i am a big fan of sarah palin but i'm not saying who it is. >> stay with us. coming up i will speak with bernie sanders' campaign manager, jeff weaver. i want to start with our team of correspondents covering the 2016 race. we kick off our coverage, nbc's hallie jackson is in new hampshire. ted cruz's bus tour making a stop this hour. let me show everybody this irngs to individuiphone video of trum palin on capitol hill.
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>> sarah [ inaudible ]. bye, sweetheart. >> you have spoken to cruz's people. they are already responding to the buzz about palin. what are they saying? >> reporter: yeah. first, they are cautioning that this endorsement hasn't happened yet, right, and in the words of a campaign spokesperson, trump can be reliably unpredictable when it comes to these kind of things. that said, if in fact it's true that sarah palin will endorse donald trump tonight, as you noted not confirmed by nbc, a spokesman for the campaign tells me it would be a deep disappointment given that palin has been a champion of conservative causes and in the cruz team's view, donald trump is simply not conservative enough. so that's some of the early reaction and perhaps a preview of what we might hear from ted cruz later on today when he heads on his bus tour here in new hampshire. we should note that bristol palin got wind of some of these comments and issued this what you might call diatribe on facebook that her mother retweeted a couple minutes ago asking, bristol palin asking if
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this is the reason people didn't like ted cruz because his campaign was so quick to jump to these kind of conclusions. some drama on the campaign trail for sure. we are all looking ahead to what happens at 6:00 tonight out in iowa. meantime, we have a lot of folks here supporting ted cruz. in fact, there is one gentleman in the corner, i would bring you to him but he's pretty far away, who says he has already voted via absentee ballot for ted cruz. >> the sleeping baby making it through -- just to your left -- >> reporter: she is so cute. she had her big puffy coat on when she walked in. it's like 12 degrees out. >> a true supporter there. hallie, thanks so much. we will talk again shortly. a new nbc news/"wall street journal" poll shows the nominating contest is taking a toll on the gop. 42% of voters feeling less favorable about the party. 19% are saying less favorable. for more on the feud between trump and cruz, let's turn to
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msnbc host and political correspondent steve kornacki. how is this playing out in conservative media? >> well, this is the reason if, and this is a big if, but if sarah palin is endorsing donald trump tonight, it is coming at a particularly good and particularly important time for donald trump, because you think of sarah palin, you think of the credibility, the support, the good will she has among tea party conservatives. you look at what's happening to donald trump right now on conservative radio, another major source of information for tea party conservatives. conservative radio has been very friendly to donald trump the last six months. it's also been very friendly to ted cruz. some people would say longer term, maybe more of a natural home to ted cruz. now that donald trump is going after ted cruz conservative radio is in some circles turning on donald trump. let me give you a couple examples. here's mark levine, conservative radio host, saying to his audience that donald trump's attacks on ted cruz are an attack on us.
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>> two months ago, three months ago, six months ago, two years ago, four years ago, ted cruz was considered mr. conservative and he still is. he's one of the most prominent conservatives in america. he's one of the most prominent conservatives, period. what's different right now is that the attack on cruz in many ways is an attack on us. that's the problem. he's nasty, nasty, nasty, donald says. why, because mitch mcconnell thinks he's nasty? because bob dole thinks he's nasty? because the dug-in ruling elite republicans think he's nasty? >> then there was rush limbaugh, king of conservative radio. he responded to reports that some in the party establishment might be ready to make peace
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with donald trump. this was what he said about that. >> establishment say yeah, yeah, yeah, we can make deals with trump. we can co-exist with trump. what they mean by that is that they think they can peacefully co-exist with trump because they can moderate trump or make deals with him that are not ideological in nature but they know, they are fairly certain that cruz is not going to compromise what he believes in order to strike deals or have a peaceful relation with them -- relationship. that scares them. >> so talk radio has really given donald trump cover in this race so far. if talk radio is now turning on donald trump, it would be more important than ever they get an endorsement like sarah palin. >> a lot of people would suspect it will be an interesting endorsement if it comes through because of her political gravitas. we wonder if it's peaked.
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we will see. steve kornacki, thank you. joining me, bernie sanders' campaign manager, jeff weaver of the sanders campaign. nice to see you. >> good to talk to you. >> your candidate is enjoying these huge crowds in alabama last night. it surprised some but you're not surprised by this because you have seen thousands of folks turning out north, south and now west. but i want to play this new line your candidate was using against the inevitability of a clinton candidacy. take a listen. >> when i began the cam ppaign people said you're running against an inevitable indiana dat candidate. when we started we were 50 points behind. today the inevitable candidate does not look quite so inevitable as she did eight and a half months ago. >> jeff, explain why you think the folks in iowa, we are less than two weeks out, why do you think folks in iowa were willing
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to give their vote to a person who calls himself a democratic socialist? >> well, they are willing to give him their vote, willing to caucus for him, because he's speaking to the reality they see in their lives. they understand that the system is rigged. that the economy is rigged against them. that it's held up by a corrupt system of campaign finance and they want change. they want to be able to afford to send their kids to college. they want to be able to afford health care. they don't want to see wall street running the congress. they want a country that belongs to everyone, not just to a few. >> we look at the new polls about the state of the race. we have the new poll from monmouth university today, has your candidate really cutting into the lead of hillary clinton, the national lead in half now. the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" polls still put hillary clinton ahead by about 25%. so we know that senator sanders is winning the hearts of a lot of people in the grassroots, but how are establishment democrats opening up to the possibility that he can win nationally? >> well, i think what you are going to see as he performs well
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in the caucuses and primaries, the early ones, as he demonstrates, as he is demonstrating in polls he is the strongest candidate against the republicans, that not only does he do well in general election matchups with democratic voters, but he is the overwhelming favorite with independent voters. we saw in a recent gallop poll that 42% of americans call themselves independents and democrats can't win the white house, they can't win the congress, they can't win all over this country if they don't bring independent voters with them. that's something that senator sanders can do. i think as we go along, the establishment democrats are going to see more and more that he is in fact the best candidate, not only to keep the white house, but to make gains in the congress and at the state level as well. >> when we talk about establishment democrats, fill me in on where the lawsuit with the dnc currently stands. is the financial portion of that still something that you are mediating? >> well, no, what we are doing is we are working with the dnc in a cooperative way to get a
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full understanding of what happened and that's where it sits right now. the lawsuit has been filed but it's all pending while we deal with this -- >> some people would say you are trying to use this as political leverage to keep them in check. are you doing that, by holding them hostage, so to speak, to the fact that -- >> well, that's a pretty unfair characterization. >> why not mediate it and close it out? >> well, we are mediating it. we are mediating with them and we are working very closely with them and that's what i'll say about it. >> okay. jeff weaver, great to have you on. we really appreciate your time. look forward to having you back. thank you, sir. >> thanks. take care. the democratic race for the white house is the topic of today's pulse question. now, it is can hillary clinton win over bernie sanders' voters? go ahead and vote. the pulse is live. we will bring you the results through the show. we are following breaking news from germany this hour. one of the americans freed from
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we have been following this breaking news from germany where moments ago we heard from former u.s. marine amir hekmati. he is one of three americans who were treated in landstuhl after being freed from iran over the
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weekend. hekmati says he's healthy and hopes to be home very soon. >> how does it feel to be back, amir? >> it feels great. i feel very lucky. like i said, i feel alive for the first time. it's like being born again and i just really feel proud to be an american. >> four americans in total were released as part of that prisoner swap. a fifth was released separately. this morning, the son of robert levinson spoke about his father still being among the missing. >> if they're okay with leaving him behind, someone who has been dedicating his life to this country, what does that say for other people who are serving our country and how are they ever going to expect to have their government support them? it's a very big problem for this country if my dad's left behind. >> nbc's keir simmons is live in landstuhl, germany and was there when hekmati spoke to reporters. so we are also going to speak to ayman mohyeldin in a second.
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let me start with you about what does hekmati say about when he's coming back? how quickly is he characterizing the stay in landstuhl before returning to the states? >> reporter: yeah, he will be able to head home whenever he is good and ready is the honest answer. we don't know when that is. he did look incredibly well when he came out here to speak. it was quite a moment of celebration and sadness on our air, actually, when he came out because of course, he came out and talked about the moment that they flew out of iranian air space, the fact that there was champagne popping, they were eating veal, they were celebrating how good it feels, he said, to be free, to be an american, while at the same time, the son of bob levinson was watching that statement from the msnbc studio and he was, as
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you can imagine, delighted for the hekmati family but at the same time, heartbroken because his father was not on that plane. bob levinson still missing. the iranians say they don't know where he is and that they are peepd prepared to help in the search for him, the family saying he has been abandoned. amir hekmati saying that for him, it was incredibly tense. he had been told many times he would be released. right until the last minute he wasn't certain it was really going to happen. >> when it comes to hekmati, we know this is amazing as he was surrounded by family, his brother-in-law with him in landstuhl, and you were asking him questions, as you pointed out, levinson's son was here watching this. it had to be terribly hard. while supportive of these people being freed.
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what is the state department saying about levinson? what do they characterize his status right now? >> reporter: well, as we understand it, bob levinson was part of the negotiation right up to the release of the u.s. prisoners, but the state department spokesman john kirby had this to say a little while ago. >> we are going to continue to work just as hard going forward to try to ascertain the whereabouts of mr. levinson and bring him home where he belongs. >> reporter: meanwhile, jason rezaian, another of the three who are here, i'm told is great, i'm told, in good spirits and physically well. last night, thomas, apparently over dinner with his brother and family he was talking about sports, about baseball and his favorite basketball team. >> it will be a slow return to normal but so many people, happy about their freedom returned. keir simmons, thank you. coming up in our next hour,
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i will speak with congressman dan kildee, democrat from michigan who was in germany yesterday meeting with amir hekmati. nbc foreign correspondent ayman mohyeldin joins me at 30 rock. there's a different story we have been following and this is about the americans that have been kidnapped, contract workers. what's the story there and their status? >> yeah, the information is sketchy, to say it politely. what we are getting confirmation from the state department and u.s. embassy in baghdad confirming that several americans are missing in iraq. they are not providing any more official information on their whereabouts, part of that because they know that right now iraqi security forces are engaged in a large manhunt, or large operation to try to recover them. what we are hearing from iraqi sources particularly the police in baghdad is that late friday night or saturday morning, at least three americans were kidnapped in a neighborhood south of baghdad. now, they are saying these three americans were contractors, working in iraq at the time. they don't know who is responsible for that kidnapping. there has been no official claim
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of responsibility for it. but right now, they are confirming that a large security operation is under way in this neighborhood and elsewhere in baghdad to try to locate these three americans. >> thank you, sir. appreciate it. ayman mohyeldin. we have breaking news from the u.s. supreme court. justices will be taking up the president's executive actions on immigration. we will unpack what the court could be deciding and the impact this case could have on millions that are facing deportation. nbc's pete williams and ari melber will join me next. check this out, bro. what's that, broheim? i switched to geico and got more. more savings on car insurance? yeah bro-fessor, and more. like renters insurance. more ways to save. nice, bro-tato chip. that's not all, bro-tein shake. geico has motorcycle and rv insurance, too. oh, that's a lot more. oh yeah, i'm all about more, teddy brosevelt. geico. expect great savings and a whole lot more.
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presidents, and clearly within the confines of his authority as president of the united states. >> there we have white house press secretary josh earnest reacting to the breaking news out of the u.s. supreme court the justices will hear the obama administration's appeal on immigration. texas and 25 other states sued the federal government challenging president obama's authority to revise immigration policy through executive action. the challenge specifically targets the programs known as doca and dopa. they allow the undocumented parents of a citizen to temporarily stay and work in the u.s. and the other allows children who were brought to the u.s. before the age of 16 to live and work without fear of deportation. the supreme court's decision could affect five million people here legally. we have team coverage on this breaking story. nbc news justice correspondent pete williams is live at the supreme court. ari melber is here at 30 rock. pete, explain how we got to this point and also what could happen if the administration wins and if it loses.
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>> we got here because as soon as the president announced this new policy 12 or 14 months ago, texas and 26 other states sued and asked the federal courts to put a hold on it while the case made its way through the courts. the lower courts agreed to put that hold on and now the obama administration is asking the supreme court to take it off and let the government enforce the law. now, by agreeing to take the case now, this case comes just in under the deadline so it will be heard this term. it will be heard in april with a decision in june so if the administration wins, then the president could start putting his new policy into effect before he leaves office. but if the administration loses, then it will be another couple of years before the courts finally decide what the answer to this question is. now, the states make a couple of points. they say this isn't just a matter of enforcement. this is actually affirmatively giving the people who can stay benefits like being able to apply for work permits which open the door to social security and medicare, but the government says no, it's just an allocation
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of resource question. it can't get all 11 million people here are here illegally so the government will concentrate on the most dangerous and might as well admit that the others can stay here. so that's the question. now, the supreme court has added another question which is does this policy violate the constitution, specifically the provision that says the president must take care that the laws be faithfully executed. those are the issues. a decision by june will mean that this will be once again in the presidential campaign and the candidates are already talking about it today. >> pete williams reporting for us there at the u.s. supreme court. pete, thank you. i want to bring into the conversation msnbc's chief legal correspondent ari melber. as we look at the bigger picture here, break it down. the implications of the case and the broader impact for folks in this country. >> well, think about folks in this country, four million plus affected by these executive orders that would have granted them that kind of protection or legal status as pete was explaining, but that is on hold. you think about the challenge
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here, people who oppose these moves by the president, were heartened and happy with the incremental victories they got at the lower court level to at least temporarily put this all on hold. let's take a listen for example to refresh our memories, texas governor greg abbott, a lawyer himself, talking about these issues and his opposition to the president. >> an action of utter violation of the constitution by the president trying to circumvent around congress in an effort to impose his own dictatorial mandates, i am confident that as this case works its way through the appellate process, we will continue to win. >> that being the argument of opponents there, dictatorial mandates may sound a little bit hyperbolic but the courts did agree with the basic idea that
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the president went too far in deciding himself unilaterally what laws not to essentially enforce and if you want to think about it a different way, you can just imagine laws that might be less politically controversial or more popular, if for example a president said well, he or she was just not going to enforce civil rights laws which have broad bipartisan support for the most part, you could imagine the outcry of people saying well, no, those are laws you can't just turn them off even if there are resource questions about not getting to 100% application. on the other hand, the reason why the white house is somewhat happy today, they see this as a chance to get a fresh hearing on all these issues and potentially prevail on the supreme court to give them at least some ability to enforce what the president set out to do originally. right now all of it on hold. that's the status quo. >> hot topics left and right on the campaign trail. msnbc's ari melber, thank you. appreciate it. we will keep talking about that. developing news today out of michigan. just hours from now, the governor of that state, rick
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snyder, will be giving his state of the state address. this speech is coming just one day after he admitted mistakes in his administration's handling of the water crisis in flint. straight ahead, i speak with the former flint mayor. to truly feel healthy on the outside
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well, it's a shame what's happening in flint, michigan. a thing like that shouldn't happen. but again, i don't want to comment on that. they've got a very difficult problem and i know the governor's got a very difficult time going. but i shouldn't be commenting on flint. >> there we have donald trump earlier today speaking about the flint toxic water crisis. it comes as michigan governor rick snyder will deliver his state of the state address tonight and is expected to focus the majority of it on the toxic water crisis for flint residents. meanwhile, two leading researchers tell msnbc they believe a recent spike in legionnaire's disease is related to the crisis and residents have filed class action lawsuits
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against the governor and former city officials. >> we are here fighting for them, fighting for their rights, not just their social legal rights but their constitutional rights. that is what we are here doing today. we are looking for emergency action, for emergency relief and we have filed the case in support of that. >> democratic presidential candidate hillary clinton continued to blast the state's handling of this situation when she called in to the rachel maddow show last night. it's a topic rachel and her team have been following since the very beginning. >> the state of michigan also needs to do its part in dealing with the long-term health and infrastructure issues. they created this disaster in the first place through their negligence and incompetence, and the governor and his administration apparently knew or had reason to know that the water was contaminated, and chose not to take action.
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>> msnbc has been covering this story. we are also going to hear from the former flint mayor, dayne walling, in just a moment. first to tony, who is in the field in lancing, michigan. what more are we hearing about the specific problem of this outbreak of legionnaire's? >> reporter: good afternoon. the legionnaire's outbreak is a potentially troubling new front in the water crisis here. remember last week, state health officials came out and said that they had seen a large spike in the number of cases, 87 cases corresponding with the time frame when flint was on the new source of water and about ten of those cases were fatal, that's a ten-fold increase over years past. they are investigating whether there's a connection at the state level but the two leading researchers who exposed the lead crisis here, they both told us this morning that they believe there is a connection and they believe that because legionnaire's is a type of pneumonia caused by bacteria in water and that bacteria would be expected to spike as a result of the crisis that has been a
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broader crisis related to lead. so it's potentially troubling new front. for locals who don't have clean water to drink, still to this day, legionnaire's or not, they are just looking to get through each evening. bath time itself can be a struggle. we talked to one mother yesterday who was also on air earlier today, ariana hawk. take a listen. >> he got a lot of questions to answer. as a parent of three, and one child that's in school, you know, i want to know why, why it happened and why isn't it covered up and why it took so long. >> reporter: that's what she wants to know and what many parents want to know. it's also what demonstrators want to know. moments ago we spoke to organizers of the massive protests planned for here later today. they are setting up just across the street. they have at least three busloads confirmed. they are expecting 500 to 1,000 people, very upset, looking for an explanation for why it took almost two years for this water crisis to be acknowledged and responded to. >> we know also lawsuits have been filed today on behalf of flint residents. talk about what we know in the
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lawsuits. what are they alleging? >> reporter: they are alleging that the state of michigan and governor snyder's administration was grossly negligent in exposing the population to what the lawsuit describes as extreme toxicity. that is the high levels of lead in the water. there are documents that have come to light through freedom of information act requests that show that members of the government, snyder's administration, were discussing lead in the water as early as april and even february at the epa level of 2015 and yet did not act until just early january. so only about two weeks ago. and that, they say, is a negligent case and there needs to be redress for people who have been exposed at a population-wide level to what is a very toxic chemical. >> tony, thanks so much. the white house in the press briefing, josh earnest just made comment about what's taking place, saying that the response should be led by state and local authorities. we know the current mayor of
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flint, michigan is in washington, d.c. for the conference of mayors and speaking with some folks inside the white house. but the predecessor to mayor weaver is joining me now. that is dayne walling, former mayor of flint. thanks for making time for me. >> you're welcome. good afternoon. >> so it can be argued this water crisis is one of the issues that contributed to you losing re-election last year to newly elected mayor weaver. explain the timeline. what did you know and when did you know it? about the issue with the water? >> yeah. you're right, there's a great deal of frustration in the community and a lot of good questions are still being asked. we had major problems with the water going all the way back to the summer of 2014 when the switch was made, and any time information came to me, we worked to put a solution in place. what we found out in october was that lead was leaching from the pipes, it was poisoning our
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children, and at that point, everything changed. our local county thankfully declared a public health emergency. there was a switch back to the detroit water. but it just wasn't followed through on. that's now three months behind us with the initial problems with this being more than a year ago and we are still asking for support, still asking for relief and the governor has to deliver some major support to the city and the kids who have been affected tonight in his state of the state address. >> a lot of people, though, would question the handling of this crisis given that there was a city council vote to disengage from getting water from detroit, to go ahead and try and establish your own connectivity to lake huron. this connection to you in detroit with getting your water from there dates back to the 1960s because of a profiteering
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scandal that negated the power of people in flint and the negotiating power for your folks to get water anywhere else than detroit. that expired. why wasn't there proper vetting done of the water resources for the plan you engaged in? >> that's exactly what should have happened. the city of flint was under the control of a state-appointed emergency manager. your network's done a great job of covering the injustice and the challenges that are associated with that. so it is right that myself and city council did express our public support for the city of flint joining a new lake huron water supply, but everything that was presented to us, this was in the march of 2013, showed the city staying with the detroit system through 2016 until the new pipeline came online. and it was later that state-appointed emergency
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manager made this switch in the plan and in the budget for the city to use the flint river as an interim source. so that was done by a state-appointed emergency manager and then even once that happened, i think those of us who had concerns still expected that the state department of environmental quality would have properly regulated the water, but they admitted in october of 2015 that the safe drinking water act, the lead and copper rule was not applied all the way from the beginning. that's why one of the solutions here has to be that residents receive a refund for more than $60 million they paid in the last 21 months for this terrible water. >> sir, it seems as if there's a lot of different finger pointing going on within the state and also the city about how this happened, and gennissee county, residents within the city itself stayed on the detroit water system. the folks in the city that are of a poorer demographic were exposed to this toxic water.
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we have been hearing from them and they feel scapegoated that they were actually exposed to this and exposed for so long and people threw up their hands. do you apologize to them and their families? do you apologize for any type of life-long problems that these folks may endure because of decisions made under your office? >> well, i regret that the city made the switch. i apologize and have apologized to the families i have spoken with, but we have to be clear that the decision to switch to the flint river, it was not made by myself and the city council. state appointed emergency manager has total control to make decisions over budget, over personnel, in many cases information that myself and city council should have known was shielded from us. >> but you did vote with the city council in march of 2013 to go ahead and disengage from the
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detroit system and initiate your own. you did vote to disengage from detroit, yes or no? >> that's true. yes, we did. and that financial projection showed the city of flint paying for detroit water through 2016. it was a later change by the emergency manager in june of that same year where the budget and the public works plan was changed. myself and city council had no part of that. i know that's hard to understand and these appointed emergency managers are in a unique role that's unlike what's happened in other cities, but that's the fact of the matter. we need to see the state come forward, the governor needs to show his leadership here. it's been now three months since a public health emergency was declared, before even the emergency disaster recommendation was made, we need the support. >> we shall see how it works out tonight with the state of the state address. we know the governor will be
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focusing mainly on the crisis in flint. former flint mayor, dayne walling, thank you for your time. i appreciate it. >> you're welcome. thank you. the film maker and flint native michael moore will be on "all in with chris hayes" at 8:00 eastern right here on msnbc. tune in. we have new developments from mexico surrounding kate del castillo's possible links to drug lord joaquin el chapo guzman. the mexican newspaper reporting the attorney general told them she has opened a money laundering investigation into companies del castillo owns or is associated with. nbc news has confirmed the attorney general has called del castillo as a witness in the office's investigation of el chapo. she is not being accused of any wrongdoing. i want to go to mexico and jacob has been following the story. what more do we know about developments in this investigation and what is being alleged?
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>> reporter: in this interview with a newspaper, the mexican attorney general is confirming that the government was monitoring kate del castillo's communications with el chapo and his people for many, many months before he even escaped. what she is saying is that they found evidence or indications in these messages that there was money laundering going on between el chapo or his associates and kate del castillo regarding some companies that she owns or is associated with. so they issued a subpoena for her to appear and to give her testimony. she can do that either in los angeles at the mexican consulate, or in mexico, of course. and what is being alleged is money laundering, that el chapo's men or associates had given her some money and this of course is a crime in mexico. they are looking into it. she has not been, you know, accused of any crime outright, just that they are investigating
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that that happened. so they have all of these text messages that we reported on before and that was the basis that led them to where we are now. she also affirmed they are not investigating sean penn. thomas? >> jacob, thanks. so a question that has been floating and really blowing up on social media, you have probably seen it, oscars so white. that's the question. are the oscars this year a bit too white? second year in a row. we have director spike lee, actress jada pinkett smith saying they will boycott hollywood's biggest night. however, not everybody agrees with the academy backlash. that's next. in new york state, we believe tomorrow starts today. all across the state the economy is growing, with creative new business incentives, and the lowest taxes in decades, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in the hudson valley, with world class biotech. and on long island, where great universities are creating next generation technologies.
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the change. >> there we have a facebook posting by jada pinkett smith and it's watched nearly nine million times now since it was released yesterday. will smith's fresh prince co-star janet hubert took issue with the statement. so jada pinkett smith married to will smith and so now we have aunt viv speaking out about her decision to boycott the oscar for failing to nominate african-american films and actors. she said now you want other actors to support your cause and be blacklisted in hollywood. my suggestion is do not do this to yourself. in a statement responding to the diversity controversy, the academy president said this is a difficult but important conversation and it's time for big changes. the academy is taking dramatic steps to alter the makeup of our membership. joining me now from l.a. is nbc's morgan radford. we are seeing will smith's former co-star, aunt viv, she came out against boycotting and
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you know, even though we have jada pinkett smith and we have other people that are supportive of chris rock being the host, there are folks that are trying lines in the sand and pick a side. >> i mean, it is really all hands on deck in tinseltown. seeing the tale of two titans here. aunt viv as we knew her growing up and then, of course, jada pinkett-smith. aunt viv is saying this is suicide. those still trying to become recognized and then smith saying, no dice. it is time for the world and especially hollywood to recognize our power. i mean, path of almost half -- about 46% of movie sales all across the united states are actually purchased by non-white people of color so this is a big issue. it's about where's the money coming from? frankly, where are the reck okay in addition and then you have in the other camp director spike
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so we have this arctic blast sending temperatures plunging in the central and eastern parts of the country. that's paving the way for a major winter storm. expected to hit the mid-atlantic at the end of the week. nbc york weather anchor dave price is tracking this forecast. december was easy breezy for most folks. now winter's caught up to us. >> you bet it has, thomas. a very active weather map. let's focus in on this east coast storm.
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later this week. here's the source of the storm right now. just making it on to the continental united states. imagine it has to journey all across the country to get to us. that's why there are so many questions as to what will happen by the time it gets to the eastern seaboard. now, this we know. we are expecting a major storm for the mid-atlantic states. we know they'll be high winds, beach erosion. it's a full moon. the question is, when a system like this works the way all the way in this direction, you have several models trying to predict who will get what and when. timing, still broad. from friday to sunday morning. the question is, where will this low go? will the rain/snow line stay south enough that the snow from, let's say, new york to boston limited? what will the effect of temperatures be? but the convergence of these two models, the gfs snow forecast and what's called the reuro sno
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forecast are remarkable. we think with high confidence to produce -- we are going to see a snowmaker along the eastern seaboard. the question is, though, who gets the heaviest snow and if the storm goes out to sea, will it spare sections right along the 95 corridor? we'll continue to watch it. but still, lots of questions and it leads people to prepare. thomas? >> let's hope for a spare. dave, great to see you. thank you. with under two weeks to go to the iowa caucuses, the races are really taking shape and ted cruz took a blow with donald trump getting a big endorsement from an iowa leader. maybe. and on the other side, hillary clinton and bernie sanders battling it out over the first two voting states. we'll look at the campaigns' long game coming up. we're hearing firsthand from one of the five american prisoners released by iran. what he had to say next. i am totally blind.
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hi, everybody. good to have you with me. i'm thomas roberts. 13 days until the iowa caucuses and both party's front-runners feel the heat it might be ted cruz having the toughest day. donald trump is promising a major announcement later today saying it could swing votes his way in the challenge to fend off the texas senator and today both men trading barbs on the
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campaign trail. >> ted is worried about his temperament and people are talking about it. i haven't talked about it. he has to be careful because his temperament is questioned a lot. >> last couple of days he's rattled, throwing insults my way. i don't intend to respond in kind. i have no interest in engaging in an insult fight. i don't think the american people care about a bunch of politicians behaving like petulent children. >> senator bernie sanders questioning whether hillary clinton is as inevitable as once believed. take a listen. >> when i began the campaign people said, well, you're running against an inevitable candidate. when we started, we were in 3% in the polls. we are 50 points today. today, the inevitable candidate does not look quite so inevitable as 8 1/2 months ago.
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>> several reports now on both campaigns as well as that major announcement that trump is teasing for latter today. let's start on the phone. hallie jackson in new hampshire. i guess the biggest news, though, coming out of iowa because of a certain republican who came out against ted cruz. talk about that. >> reporter: yeah. thomas, talking about iowa governor brandstead and on the phone and you can probably see ted cruz is speaking to folks in new hampshire. iowa, the governor has now said that he would not like to see ted cruz win the caucuses there. he said this to a local affiliate. significant in that he's a governor who long time governor who's typically tried to stay out of these kinds of things. he originally said he may or may endorse and significant for cruz and a blow to him. not necessarily news you want to hear today if you're ted cruz an the neck and neck fight with
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donald trump in iowa. that said, you are seeing signs of how team cruz, thomas, trying to frame this. one of cruz's top surrogates in iowa, radio host steve gates saying this is the branding they're looking for. ted cruz, remember, running as a an anti-establishment guy, an outsider, as somebody who is fueled by this idea that the more people in washington and people with the establishment the better off he is. thomas? >> isn't that the charm also of donald trump? so -- >> reporter: sure. that's why -- >> they're lapping up this. donald trump tweeted, well, the highly respected governor of iowa said ted cruz must be defeated. big shocker. he missed a character there. people do not like ted. so anyway, donald trump getting on the record with this 16 minutes ago and not an endorsement as much as it is -- it's anybody's game still. iowa's governor just doesn't like cruz. >> reporter: correct. for cruz, it's kind of an
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anti-endorsement and not an endorsement of trump. by any means. the governor has ties, for example, to governor chris christie and although, again, not endorsed. for trump, this plays into the strategy he is working on over this last week or so of painting ted cruz as an unlikable guy, doesn't have friends and can't manage to make deals with folks. if he were to become president. no surprise, perhaps, trump pouncing on this, a sign that ted cruz simply should not be the person that the conservative base turns to. >> does cruz's camp know about it and given a statement in. >> reporter: we'll work on it for you. >> he's speaking live to folks. hallie jackson, thank you. steve kornacki is here with more. when's the heft of that non-endorsement and given the
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fact he said he wasn't going to get involved. >> this is an interesting question right now. a couple things to note about terry brandstead. this guy has been governor of iowa on and off again since 1982. he's the longest tenured govern nor in the country by far. i believe as governor when he was actually in office endorsed one in the iowa caucuses for bob dole that won them in 1996. the question, though, this gets to what hallie saying about the initial reaction of cruz people, people that support ted cruz at least, does this actually change the mind of anyone who is leaning toward or supporting ted cruz? when terry brandstead made a comeback bid in 2010 to be governor again after a 12-year absence, he had a republican primary. running against him was a leader of christian conservatives of bob vanderplotz.
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so if you look at iowa right now on the presidential side and say that that 41% that did not go with brandstead in the 2010 primary, that's the cruz vote, the trump out there, then not necessarily what he says right now is going to have much of an effect on them. >> okay. the other big storyline today following is that from donald trump and expect him at 2:30 in iowa. what about the buzz about who the endorsement for him is going to be? the name -- can we say it? all right to say it, right? >> the speculation is rampant now and a lot of signs pointing to it. not confirmed that sarah palin will come out and endorse donald trump later today. again, this's the speculation at this point. trump was asked about it. he said he really likes sarah palin. he will not reveal who this is. here's what really got everybody talking. it was when the speculation sort of kicked up, some people in ted cruz's campaign said to the media basically that sarah palin
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was making a would be a big mistake doing this. as a result of those comments, sarah palin's daughter posted a message i believe on facebook where she went after ted cruz. she said, basically, ted cruz had been for her mother before apparently against her and cruz turned against my mom who did nothing but support him and help her. shows he's a typical politician. sarah palin herself tweeted out a link to that post by her daughter asking, is this why people don't like ted cruz? donald trump's campaign tweeted out, sarah palin's tweet. a lot of indications there that that's where this is going and i should point out in the last five minutes ted cruz himself has gone on twitter and trying to tamp this down a little bit and loves sarah palin. there is it. without her support i wouldn't be in the senate. regardless of what she does in 2016, i will always be a big fan. maybe an effort by ted cruz if this is a sarah palin endorsement not to make it any
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worse for him. >> i feel like we're catching eighth grader's notes in gym class. if not sarah palin, a betting man, who's the endorsement coming from? >> maybe bristol palin. >> thank you, sir. democratic race, that's hot drama on its own today. a favorable new poll for senator bernie sanders came out as he was beginning to question clinton's inevitability. the poll finds the vermont senator cut clinton's lead in half and done so just by a month. msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt in washington, d.c. and we should note that bernie sanders joining rachel maddow our colleague one on one this evening. but talk about the response of the clinton campaign to the new poll numbers and any concern sanders is catching up and fast? >> caller: it's clear he is catching up and i think the clinton campaign unnerved by what's going on and also looking forward to seeing a little bit
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more scrutiny aimed at bernie sanders. as we go forward. i think that's been a certain level of frustration that, you know, people haven't been really focused on what sanders is out there saying on the campaign trail an tough to get into the conversation, things that they feel he's being disingenuous about and starting to see that happen a little bit, a flip side of that for sanders. acknowledged to our lester holt after the state of the union that he was at the point maybe picturing himself as president of the united states giving that address. that, of course, is something that's new for a campaign otherwise been viewed as an insurgent one but, you know, sanders under scrutiny from some liberal columnists over his health care plan, for example. so suddenly starting to see the details of what sanders is running on, more chewed over in the national sphere and i think that's the question is how does he handle that over the course of the next two weeks. >> we keep hearing that word, insurgent, used for bernie sanders.
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we'll see how it plays out. racing down to iowa. great to see you. thank you. >> nice to see you, thomas. that brings us to the microsoft question for you and asking everybody to weigh in. can hillary clinton win over bernie sanders's voters? take a look. 18% say, yes. 82% of you are saying, no. all right. so the pulse remains live. check it out. we will evaluate the scoring later in the show. next, what could be a major blow to president obama's executive action on immigration. will be heard by the supreme court. and what's going to happen to so many million affected by that? and the potential for deportation. also still ahead, watching the weather as a brutal blast of winter air is gripping a large portion of the country. we'll talk about that. this threat of a massive storm looming over the eastern seaboard for the end of the week. which cities could get hit the
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so we turn to the supreme court's decision to take up the obama administration's immigration appeal. the justices will review the legality of the president's executive orders that would protect nearly 5 million undocumented immigrants from deportation and allow them to work legally in the u.s. those orders issued 14 months ago put on hold by lower courts when texas and others sued to block them. nbc's pete williams is following the developments and nbc's ron allen with fresh reaction from the white house. first, let's go to pete outside the steps of the supreme court. let's talk about the time line, pete, and factors that this court will take into consideration. >> reporter: okay. in terms of the timeline, it's argued in april with the
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decision in june so that means if the administration wins it could start putting this in effect in the closing months of the obama administration. if it stays it is going to bounce around for a couple of years and finally decided one way or the other. the issues are these. first of all, does the government have the power to do this? texas and 26 states say the answer to that is no. two reasons. one they say the administration failed to do what it should have done which is put out a notice to do this and seek public comment so the failure to do that they say is illegal. secondly, in the lower courts, this is an interesting point here, the lower courted argued it was unconstitutional and a phrase that the president must take care to see that the laws are faithfully executed. now, that question fell away as this worked its way through the lower courts but today the supreme court revived that question and directed the lawyers for both sides to address it. you would think that that is not a good sign for the
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administration. that the supreme court brought that up again. because as far as the obama administration is concerned, the main issue is whether the states have the right to bring the case at all. the government argues here immigration is a federal issue and the states should butt out. the states say they're aharmed y the rule, they have to pay for the new benefits that the people get to stay here would have. so those are the main questions teed up here now for the april argument, thomas. >> pete williams rart reporting outside the supreme court, thank you. >> you bet. >> ron allen is outside of the white house. explain to us the reaction of the white house and how confident it is that the court's going to rule in its favor. >> reporter: well, they're very glad that the court ruled in its favor, this is the last chance after losing in the lower courts to have this policy put in effect before the president leaves office. and from an even broader perspective, immigration reform is a president priority first e leblgted almost eight years ago
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and this is the big issue in the latino community, a community that arguably has helped keep him in office giving him huge majorities in the past two election cycles. so they're hoping that the court will essentially bail them out and as pete pointed out they're hoping that there's still time to put this policy into effect in the final months or what would be the final months of the obama administration if in fact the court rules in their favor. this was a big issue at the briefing that's still going on by the president's spokesman. here's some of what josh earnest had to say about the court's ruling. >> the administration believes strongly that the prompt implementation of these executive actions would have positive benefits for our economy, for the security of communities across the country. we're going to make a presentation to the supreme court about why we should be allowed to do that. >> reporter: now, obviously, there are legal issues but the administration is 'em that
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sizing that the practical benefits of this. a number of times josh earnest and others have called this a common sense solution, this executive order that the president has issued. again, immigration reform and hasn't been done and this is the obama administration's perhaps last chance to do it. thomas? >> ron allen reporting at the white house for us, thank you, sir. want to move on to the other story, breaking news following out of germany where we had just rough about two hours ago the first words spoken publicly amir hekma hekmati, he's been released as a hostage in iran. one of three americans being treated in germany following that imprisonment. hekmati described the feeling of waiting to learn that he would be safely released. >> it was very nerve wracking. i was worried that maybe the iranian side was going to make new demands in the last minute or that the deal wasn't going to work out. up until the last second, we were all worried and concerned. >> four americans in total
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released as part of this prisoner swap. we have a fifth matthew trevithick released separately. i'm joined by congressman dan kildee of michigan working to get hekmati's release. good to have you with me. that is project you've been passionately working on for sometime now. talk about how amir feels, what his reaction was to see his family and if you've heard about when he could be coming back to the states. >> reporter: well, you know, amir is a remarkable young man. i never met him before just yesterday and i've spent a good deal of time with him. he's relieved. he is mononorred by all the support that he's received. he was surprised the extoent which the american people became engaged in the effort to bring him home. he knew i was working on it and his family and few others and didn't know quite literally tens
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of thousands of people raised their hands for him and the country was watching. he was a really gratified young man. in terms of when he'll come home, the next few days. he'll take the time to get it right and ready to go home. i know his parents are really looking forward to seeing him. >> his family has been relentless in trying to get his freedom and tell his story because he was imprisoned four and a half years ago, convicted of espionage, falsely. but this is a really long process. as you just pointed out, you just met him and working on this since 2013 when you were elected but the process, how confident were you that this was going to happen and in a timeline like we're witnessing now? >> well, we got close a few times before this and things just sort of failed to come together. after the success of the p-5 plus 1 agreement, obviously, we had been able to open up a
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direct channel of negotiation, a formal channel of negotiation with iran on the status of the americans. and so, while the two were not connected really, the fact that we had direct discussion with them gave me some hope that it was going to happen sometime, you know, in this period of time. but until it happened, you know, we were always quite uncertain. we were working on this very publicly. but also, i have been engaged in as much private negotiation and direct outreach to iran and to other countries to help. it all came to fruition and i got to tell you one of the most gratifying moments of my life yesterday walking into a room and putting my arms around amir hekmati and telling him how proud i am of him. >> these are folks in your home disfrom ikt in michigan and also happens to include the situation that's going on in flint for all the people exposed to the toxic water issue. for that city. we have the white house confirming that the president is
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going to meet with mayor weaver in flint. she is there for the conference of mayors in washington. we have got your governor addressing the state of the state tonight. lawsuits are being filed. what is your position about the calls for snyder's rez ignition? should he helm the crisis or leave? >> well, obviously, this's a decision he and he will have to make. i just wish he would step up. you know? there's a lot of people calling for him to step down. he can help make it right in flint if he supplies the support for the people of flint that is somewhat equal to the gravity of the situation. frankly, hi response so hfar is nothing short of pathetic. actually. when you give -- many when you take stock of how great a problem this is, tens of thousands of people affected, thousands of children whose lives could be affected for the
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rest of their development, i just don't think that he understands exactly how big a problem it is and how much of it is his responsibility to fix. he needs to step up. >> congressman, a lot of people are trying to evaluate what it means to actually give good money after bad money, paying for poisonous water that you're pumping in to your home and thinking somehow that your elected representatives are come police it in allowing this to happen. so, structurally, what needs to happen other than the governor stepping up to make sure that these residents can trust their local elected officials? >> well, it was not their local elected officials that made the decision. it was an unelected emergency financial manager appointed by the governor that took away complete control of city government. the city council had no authority to act on any matter. the mayor had no authority to
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act on any matter. the manager made the decision to switch just to save a few dollars. so what this says is when local official who is are accountable to the public are in charge they make decisions that don't just measure dollars and cents. think think about the life of the people they represent. this is a failure of government but it's largely a failure of a philosophy that says you can measure on a dashboard every decision. sometimes you actually have to think about the life and health of children. not all those things can be measured in dollars and cents or a dash board approach to government. >> michigan congressman dan kildee joining us from germany, thank you very much. a programming note for everybody, the filmmaker michael moore will be on tonight to talk about the water crisis in flint and other topics right here 8:00 p.m. msnbc. so she takes the time to prepare a perfectly flaky crust made from scratch, and mixes crisp vegetables with
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expected to deliver remarks at the 10th annual renewable fuel summit. we'll listen and bring you remarks as they happen. and as we wait for that to happen in iowa, take a look at the latest polls and indicates that 2016 might be the year for the outsider candidate. we have been watching this fluctuation for a while now and the latest poll shows the businessman donald trump dominating the polls at 38%. with anti-establishment ted cruz coming in there at 21%. and cruz took a hit earlier today. listen to this. iowa governor terry brandstead claimed the cruz nomination would be damaging saying voting for the senator would be a mistake and while the latest nbc news/"wall street journal" polling shows hillary clinton maintaining a significant lead over bernie sanders the socialist is neck and neck in clinton two weeks ahead of the
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iowa caucuses. and governor ed rendell, former governor of pennsylvania, hillary clinton supporter and a nbc news political analyst. guys, it is great the see you. robert, let's start with you because we had this anti-endorsement earlier today from iowa governor branstad saying he doesn't want folks to support cruz. donald trump tweeted out, wow, what a shocker. this is not a guy that typically throws the hat into the ring with an endorsement. what do you make of this anti-endorsement? >> i think he is trying to influence the process. he's been around the block. a former member of congress. a sitting governor. he knows what he is doing and the state fairly well. iowa with 99 counties. evangelicals and the caucuses are not like any other voting process, if you will. they're intimate. oftentimes in people's homes. caucuses -- i was there four years ago and it was fascinating.
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they happen in living rooms or kitchens and they share the ideas and when's more interesting about iowans is they're highly sophisticated of being informed and engaged on the issues and i think what the governor is saying, look, you are pretty smart. you know what you're doing but a reminder if you go down the cruz route and paraphrasing here, probably doesn't bode well in the general election. that's the suspicion. >> we know iowa and the folks in new hampshire take this governor very seriously and notorious to change their minds up until the very end. governor, let's look at this. hillary clinton losing a touch of steam within the democratic race and bernie sanders is catching up. as we look at the iowa polling, it is especially tight there. do you think a democratic socialist really has the motion, the momentum rather to win the day in way?
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>> sure. likely voters in the caucuses identify themselves as socialist. that's an aberration. that is probably unlike anything in virtually any other state in the union so i think iowa given the progressive democrats, left-leaning democrats, its far left leaning democrats is fertile ground for bernie sanders. i wouldn't be surprised if he won the iowa caucuses. >> that would be telling. as that does give a lift to whoever is following into new hampshire. robert, as we stay in iowa, let's talk about trump and the big announcement, the possibility of an endorsement from sarah palin. in your political lens, does that help or hurt trump? >> i think it's a net neutral. i think at the end of the day i have always said this, doan ericss -- endorsements do not move the
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needle. you have to be a large name and a movement conservative on the right to be able to move the needle one way or the other and sarah palin as we know has been introduced over and over and over again to the american people and back to the earlier point, iowans are sophisticated and smart and make up their mind -- >> let me interrupt. trump is speaking about the governor of iowa. >> the news his feelings about one of the other candidates. that's a strong feelings. so that will be very interest -- i guess you agree, too. i agree. i agree. and, you know, he's been mixed on the subject. he went over here and then all of a sudden slapped so it's very interesting to see. you know, i said back -- i actually wrote a few things down concerning ethanol, bio fuel and i wanted to just read what i wrote because i think it's very important from the standpoint certainly of this room, there's a little bit different and going
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in a little while to do an introduction of a person when's so highly regarded and a tremendous person but we are oo getting an endorsement and been a -- i left the john wayne museum where we endorsed by the family and the daughter who's such an amazing woman and so john wayne has endorsed trump. i like that. that's what we need. we need a little more john wayne around here in this world, in our country. maybe the rest of the world has a lot of john wayne. we don't have it. it's very important. i wrote this out. i thought i'd read a little bit of it to you. i think you will agree with me. if you don't, i know you'll let me know. that's what i know about you people. you will let me. the rfs, renewable fuel standard is a tool in the mission to achieve energy independence for the united states. i will do all that is in my power as president to achieve that goal. so far you agree with me, right?
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as president, i will encourage congress to be cautious in attempting to charge and change any part of the rfs, we have to do that. any part of the rfs. energy independence is a requirement of america to become great again. my theme is make america great again. an important part of it. >> all right. listening to donald trump as he's talking to the iowa renewable fuels association. he highlighted coming up that he has a big endorsement. he wouldn't say from whom but we'll all be waiting to see who it is. governor ed rendell with me and robert traynem. governor, i want your first reaction. i know there have been many trump events, i have covered in this show and witnessed as just a viewer. i haven't seen him read any statement before. >> well, first of all, i agree
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with robert about endorsements. not just sarah palin but i don't think when it ee's presidential election, i don't think endorsements matter much. i don't think donald trump wants too many endorsements. sort of compromises his status as the outsider. in terms of him reading, i think it's very interesting. if i were to offer an opinion, he's probably reading it because he doesn't have a clue about the renewable fuel standard or anything that's going on with renewable fuels in washington and reading it to make sure he doesn't make a mistake and somebody else wrote it out for him. i would bet a bottom dollar on that. it's a very complex issue about whether ethanol should remain as a renewable fuel standard. there's arguments for it, against it. but my guess is donald doesn't have a clue and reading somebody else's words. >> robert, what do you make, though, of what a quick learner
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donald trump is as a political candidate? because we're used to seeing him kind of come out and deliver off the cuff. not so much a buttoned up statesman with a cue card. >> i have a different -- slightly different take than governor rendell. as the governor knows, ethanol and corn subsidies, number one issue in iowa besides religion on the right and even a democrat or an independent, ethanol is a really big deal and donald trump can't mess this up in iowa. the reason he can't, number one, it's the number one issue in iowa. and when he's so close and the earlier point of iowans sophisticated, if he stays on message with this, there's a possibility that he may be able to get some votes here but if, in fact, he messes it up it will be the front page headline in the iowa newspapers. this is a number one dominant issue. and to the earlier point, thomas, donald trump is not a politician. he's a very quick study. many people think he's not
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bright. i beg to differ. i think he's a very, very smart individual, cunning and knows what he is doing and why he's placating to the audience and not speaking extemporaneously. he needs to get this right. >> i don't think he would have gotten where he is if he wasn't pretty smart guy. also knows the audience. now shifted from those notes and talking about his world view. let's take a listen. >> two corinthians, right? that's the whole ball game. >> think of what happened and then on top of it right before the deal they take our seven sailors, they make them drop to the begging position, hands up, guns to their heads. and embarrass us and humiliate us as a country and it's a disgrace. it's a disgrace. and frankly, if we weren't giving them -- these are great negotiators. the persians are great negotiators. if we weren't giving them that money, the following day, or two
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days, they would have never given us those sailors back because they have no respect for our country, they have no respect for our leadership, for us. they have no respect for anything having to do with the united states. they will respect us again. believe me. believe me. so i saw what happened and i watched and i've been watching when's been going on with the country and how sad it is, actually. if you look at so many different things. losing with the military's being decimated with cuts and problems and not having proper leadership. we can't beat isis. you know, there was a time we could beat germany, we could beat japan. we could beat whoever was in front of us. now we can't beat isis, probably a group of 30,000 people and dispersed. i think general patton would have figured it out. i think general macarthur would have figured it out very rapidly, very quickly.
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we'll figure it out and knock the hell out of them. i didn't want to go in. the way we got was wrong. we got and announced a date and the enemy sat back and waited. we announced a date and after that date was announced the enemy pulls back. waited. we got out and look what happened now. look what happened now. then you have the migration where we want to take in thousands and thousands and thousands of people. i think far greater than any numbers that you are hearing, frankly. we have no idea who these people are. so we want to have strong borders. we want to have strong -- this started. one of the reason i'm doing so well in the polls and i think i'm doing really well in iowa. i think it's really, really been strong in iowa, stronger than the polls say and they have us pretty much in first place, cnn with a poll recently. 33-20 with me being the 33 which is nice. but -- but i think we're doing
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really well here. i hope to do really well here. we're doing great with evangelicals and tea party. i have been in iowa so much and going to be spending a lot of time here over the next week and a half and who would think? it's coming up so foon. soon. february 1st. exciting time politically. and then new hampshire, south carolina and nevada and the -- whole thing is very exciting. although i'll tell you only exciting if i win. if i don't win i just wasted one hell of a lot of time. but if i don't win i won't be so excited. i guess you're right. one of the things i'm doing -- i think it's an advantage in terms of people and popularity. i'm not asking of you bio fuel people and you ethanol people, i'm not saying, please, can i have money? i don't want anything. i do what's right. 0 when i want to go with ethanol, i can go with ethanol. [ applause ] it's a big difference.
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>> all right. listening to donald trump here speaking to the folks of the iowa renewable fuels association. robert, do you think that he has -- oh, you let robert go. excuse me. governor rendell, you are still with me. correct? no. okay. so we lost our two guests but i want to thank them for their time. the issue of donald trump, though, on the campaign trail and the one thing he was teasing is a big endorsement coming up. we've been watching him following him around the country as he has been talking kind of amping up the rhetoric and watched him direct a lot of words at the political rivals but one person or one group that's taken aim out now is apple warning if he's elected president all products manufactured in the u.s. speaking to supporters at liberty university on monday, trump had this to say. >> we're going to get apple to start building their damn
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computers and things in this country instead of in other countries. >> all right. so get them building back here at home. joining me is executive director at the deiter, they're bold words by donald trump and come to anticipate bold language from a candidate like donald trump. is that even possible to legally get them to do their manufacturing all of it in the u.s.? >> i don't know about legally but i will say from a labor perspective and especially from a technical perspective of being able to get the parts and get the people that you need to build it here in the u.s., the answer's basically no. steve jobs said a while ago the jobs are not coming back here. >> is it bottom line basic, the labor costs that much better, more affordable overseas and that's what they're more concerned about, bottom line? >> what apple will tell you while, yes, labor is cheaper, that's not the primary problem with manufacturing here in the
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u.s. tim cook said this on an interview in december that the main issue for them is there's a lot of like mid-level engineers, vocational job that is lets you do tool and dye casting and aren't enough of them here in the u.s. for them to be able to make the phones at the scale that they need to make them. >> enough people to actually get the products that they need in the time scope that they need. >> yeah. >> didn't tim cook make reference they would manufacture a specific product here to find that balance and promote it that way of u.s. made? >> yeah. there's a lot of parts made for apple products in the u.s. i think apple says that they have 31 states with different parts made in the u.s. and they also do some assembly here in texas making the mac pro. the trash can looking mac. they make some tough here and also support lots of industry and so with the iphone and the app ecosystem with job that is way and then parts come from the
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u.s. and the screens for the iphone, for example, made in the u.s. and a few other pieces for different computers saying somewhere in the neighborhood i think 360,000 jobs support making stuff that go in apple products. >> getting the tech issue and we take for granted the amount that goes into manufacturing, comes down to just the shirt on your back to the iphone in the pocket thinking about the clothes, the thread, the buttons and the iphone and all the work goes into that. thank you, sir. appreciate your time. >> thank you. next, we have breaking developments out of flint, michigan, about the deadly cases of legionnaires disease and what two professionals say is a direct link to the toxic water situation. live to michigan ahead. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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dealing with the growing toxic water crisis. the mayor karen weaver in washington to attend the u.s. conference of mayors and press secretary earnest was asked about the president's feeling on the flint issue. >> i think the president is quite concerned about the impact that this situation is having on the tens of thousands of citizens of that city of flint. one thing it underscores is the importance of having good environmental laws on the books. >> so meanwhile, as the governor of michigan gets set to address the crisis in tonight's state of the state address, we have flint residents filing two class action lawsuits against him and former city officials. i want to bring in national correspondent tony dokoupil joining me from lansing. what more do we know the steps the white house will take if any? >> reporter: a few moments ago, the white house announced that nicole lori dispatched to flint
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tomorrow from the department of health and human services and in charge of preparedness and response and mitigating the effects of the kri sis in flint and the creation of a long-term plan for the long-term effects and looking at $5 million in federal funding made available on saturday when president obama signed that declaration of emergency and she'll also no doubt be looking into the possible connections between the flint water crisis and an uptick in legionnaires cases in the flint area, a type of pneumonia traveling in warm water and last week health officials here in the state said that there had been a tenfold increase in ten fatalities corresponding with the time that the other water crisis developing and earlier today we talked to a researcher of virginia tech university who has led the charge and identifying lead in the water here in michigan and he told us that he think it is legionnaire case is connected. he said our laboratory research
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predicted that this sort of thing would occur. we measured high legionella in flint and the time period of the flint river water was used and very strong and troubling late development. >> i was watching the virginia tech folks speak about this and one made a comment stlearned th most studying the worst. tony in lansing, thank you. i appreciate it. that's going to wrap things up for this today's show. see you tomorrow. stay tuned. kate snow picks up the coverage next. ♪ (cell phone rings) where are you? well the squirrels are back in the attic. mom? your dad won't call an exterminator... can i call you back, mom? he says it's personal this time... if you're a mom, you call at the worst time. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico.
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could it be as big as sarah palin? bad news for ted cruz in new hampshire. iowa's governor in iowa saying it would be a big mistake for iowans to support cruz. and on the democratic side, the clinton campaign prepares for the long haul against bernie sanders. let's start this super tuesday on msnbc with the republicans. donald trump today campaigning in iowa picking up the endorsement of john wayne's family earlier but he stayed mum about the mystery guest who will join him at the iowa rally three hours from now. political insiders expect it to be former alaska governor and 2008 republican vice presidential nominee sarah palin. >> we have a tremendous event planned in a little while. that will be a very big event. i think you will be very impressed. i'm a big fan of sarah palin, yes. that i won't say. i'm a big fan of sarah palin. not saying who it is. >> after a spokesman for ted


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