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there's music in dance group called the u.s.a. freedom kids and this is how they spread freedom by singing and dancing in tribute to donald trump. kids say the darnedest things. it would be nice to shine a
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light on a candidate who isn't donald trump for once. here they are performing their song for a candidate who needs support. none other than jeb bush. >> so cute. good morning everyone. it's thursday, january 21st. it's my mom's birthday. oh my gosh. happy birthday. i've got to get on that. >> she's going to get a snowstorm. >> yes, she is. they're getting a huge storm in washington. it's coming through new york. donnie is with us. happy birthday. also harold ford jr. is back.
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you guys still talking? >> i love joe. >> really? you guys between the segments yesterday, whoo. it was like off the air. >> there were no fists were there? >> no, but i will tell you we've started comparing golf clubs. it's nasty. >> on capitol hill we have jeremy peters and manchester, new hampshire manager of bloomberg politics, mark halperin. we have a lot to get with in the polls and big changes just happened. >> what do you mean? >> remember they were saying there's not enough debates, it's controlling the election and she said this is a decision i've reached and i've consulted with many people including our officers and said this is the best way to approach it. everyone went after it again and
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again and again and especially martin because he wanted a voice and felt like the debates would unite a conversation. >> willie, obviously, what mika speaks of is the democrats panicking. you screwed yourself and limited yourself to six debates. you screwed yourself and hillary is in trouble. just like that. six hours later they're trying to control it another way. >> it's a forum. >> yeah, forum.
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we've said this for months and months. when the history of the campaign was written, the dncs behavior was looked@a nonflattering way. the campaign pointed it out and the dnc has done a terrible job hiding. >> all of them not helping hillary clinton. this does not, again, i would vote and they're not getting her there. >> what's spresing is good democrats are also good hillary clinton supporters. harold ford said we need more debates anyway. they're hiding the debates on sunday nights and going up against nfl games and i think you've been saying they need more debates. it feeds into the 2016 narrative that the political process is rigged and the party bosses in d.c. are rigging it for their favorite candidates. >> i said earlier with mika i
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thought the chairwoman was wrong picking only five or six debates. martin raised it early in the campaign. whether they thought they were helping mrs. clinton or not is not the issue. the issue is this is a democratic process and we deserve an opportunity for these candidates. maybe she'll change her mind. >> it appeared to be helping her and now that it appears to not be helping her. >> mrs. clinton? >> it was helping hillary they thought and this is the defense. they made a mistake and it's blown up in their face. donnie, we asked you about donald trump. now we have to turn to the democratic side. the iron media, it seems today if there's a nomination we'll be locked up quickly, it could be the republican nomination and
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democrats could be in. i've been talking to so many supporters of hillary, so many democrats over the past week and a half and they're just shaking their heads saying they don't know what's going on and don't know what's wrong with hillary and bernie sanders cannot be the nominee. they are going through what the republicans have been going through for six months. >> i think this will be good for hillary. the wrap on hillary, it's carbonation. so the fact that she's going to have to go a couple of rounds and particularly against sanders although he's an appealing guy. >> she's losing by 27 points in new hampshire. >> we're going into the south where it's going to change even if he wins the first two.
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>> how do you know that? how do you know it's going to change? >> i don't think there's enough electorate. this is not the trump scenario. >> i think it allows her to define herself. i think these rounds are going to help her long term. people want to see her beat up a little. why doesn't she have to fight?
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>> i saw bernie sander's rally in alabama. i haven't seen anywhere approaching that number of people at any hillary clinton rally. >> i don't think anybody can tell you what the world looks like if sanders wins the first two states. he has the momentum. i think that might be why you see this. she needs opportunities to kind of write her ship and reassert the primacy she has. she's far more likelily than sanders to be the nominee. bill clinton was as good as i've seen him in years. he may be what saves his wife in new hampshire or iowa. he's trying to figure out to feel what's the right frame to take sanders down and stop his momentum. >> i disagree with mark on bill clinton. i saw him the other day and
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mentioned a couple of weeks ago, he use to be the big day and now there's a gient republican level barking. clinton seems old and seems yesterday. i do not see that same magic out there. >> bill clinton and donald trump are the same age. i don't know if you saw amy's piece but talking about how bill's problems from the 1990s were impacting hillary with the younger women voters right now.
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>> if you look at poll numbers he's tight in the party. >> now go back to it. i'm serious. for politicians, you got to know when to wear the dark suit, white shirt and red tie and you got to know when to look like that. if you are chasing a guy from burli burlington, vermont and trying to paint yourself as a new hampshire person, bingo. >> okay. >> i know it sounds shallow, but mitt romney would have worn a three piece suit there. it matters.
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>> i would like to see trump in a cardigan. >> you saw he dressed down for java joe's. >> the problem with the cardigan is the trump family, they're so large on it, it's hard to button. >> it weighs it down. >> he's got, i don't know because i've never worn one, but somehow they're 24 carat gold flex. >> i picture trump sitting by a pool with that suit and red tie. it never comes off. >> the iowa caucuses, the poll of the national republican field has trump at 36%, 19 points ahead of cruz. marco rubio, 11 pegs. ben carson, 8%. judging the top and at a times, 37% of republicans say trump has a better chance of defeating hillary clinton.
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between trump and rubio, trump is seen as the better choice the beat clinton 47-22%. with new hampshire voting, in 19 days trump is still on top while the deck is shuffling beneath him. cruz climbed eight points to 14%. bush at 10% tied with marco rubio. >> we're going to do this again. mark halperin, this is probably the fourth or fifth state poll we've shone over the past two da days. do we have a redistribution of the establishment vote? are people giving up on marco saying hey, you know what, maybe we need to go back to our first choice? >> they're not giving up on him
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but there's an incredible equalization in new hampshire and some extent nationally. >> marco is losing. he's losing four points here. he was losing in the florida poll three or four points other candidates seem to be going up. we are seeing marco rubio in every poll going down. i'm not picking on him. i'm asking you. you're in new hampshire on the ground, why is this guy losing support? >> well, in part because i think the other three establishment candidates are all moving up. they're all beating each other up and rubio has taken a fair amount of beating including by ted cruz. rubio is the odds on favor to finish third in iowa and at this point here in new hampshire and the states that follow, while rubio may have lost a little
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bit, the great thing is equalization. all of them are fighting hard and may end up with 10% of the vote each which would be incredible for trump and cruz. rubio, maybe he's declined a little bit. he's just as strong as the the other three establishment candidates again. >> i'm not trying to say marco's campaign is in a dyer situation. any campaign you have three or four state polls that matter and you're down a week to go before the first caucus is a problem. any theory of the case? why is he dropping in from florida to new hampshire? >> i think there's three things. one is he has been battered by negati
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negative attacks. two is some people are choosing someone they think can take on trump and cruz. bush has been the most assertive of the candidates to say i will take on trump. that's going to be part of the job description if you want that slot and finally, rubio by not picking a state and not win everywhere, i think it's hurting him everywhere. there's nowhere where he's putting in the time some of his rivals are state by state. >> we heard the rubio campaign talking about a three, two, one strat ri. finish third in iowa, second in new hampshire and win south carolina and then you're on down into florida, a place where they think they can do well. how do you see his prospects? >> the negative attack adds are a big component.
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i was in iowa with marco earlier this week. >> what's going on there? >> he's getting big crowds. it was 13 below and 150 people there in the middle of iowa. he's gaining in iowa while ted cruz is gaining from this big boost. his numbers are really, really climbing in new hampshire. look at the polls. ted cruz, the candidate everybody hates has strong favorability ratings.
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>> speaking of first choices, the polls that came out yesterday and anybody who thinks donald trump should not be president, in florida, 48% and head to head with hillary clinton beating her 47-42. this is florida. >> we didn't put that up. in that same poll he's beating hillary 47-42. >> yes. this is florida. not some whacky state. this is one of the three or four swing states. >> they're checking it right now. >> while they're checking that, again, mika. i'll say this. you were the first person i've heard on tv saying that donald trump could win the nomination and you were the first person about three or four weeks ago that said everybody, just stop it.
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donald trump could win the general election. if these numbers are correct or donnie just dreamed them. >> speaking of hillary clinton, supporters are continuing to highlight senator sanders views after quoted in the new york times saying republicans won't touch him. >> you think they would use a hammer and sickle logo? >> i wouldn't put it past them. they have been terribly unfair in their attacks. it's what they do. one of my colleagues said the republican attack machine has chain saws for hands. the point i was trying to make
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is bernie has not felt those chain saws and they would come out with a vengeance if he's the nominee. it would be absolutely possible for a socialist to win in states like missouri. states like indiana, ohio, pennsylvania. it is very heart, i think for most americans to see how socialism cure the problems we're facing. there's a lot of work we'll have to do but we need to bring the country together. people are angry and they want to blow everything up. >> i like their a lot. i'm reminded who she is. she is innocent. talking about the republican attack machine and the chain saws. i set there and was worried for
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her. she would never be so shrewd and vicious as to pile $2 million into a republican opponent's primary campaign. so she could get him elected and run against him in the general election and paint him as a right wing sociopath. she is right. republicans are mean and democrats are innocent. >> you know what, she's a surrogate for hillary clinton. >> she's aggressive. i love her. >> i read the quote, exactly what she just explained yesterday, this is not what i think. i don't think bernie sanders is a communist but socialism now is the next attack. we did guns, health care. >> clair was the first person about six months ago to come on our show and talk about he's a socialist.
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>> sort of like martia, martia, martia. they think he's going to be easy to run against. they're similar, personal, physical dynamics that are going to make bernie sanders much harder to run against and swat away than they think.
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>> sort of like your description of running against a woman years ago. do you understand? >> what's harder? >> yeah, i think bernie sanders is tough, aggressive, tireless and if they try and kick him around it's going to look bad. >> so trump verses sanders, who do you think wins? i think trump will. >> i'm not going to make a guess on that. >> trump wins by 10 points if it's trump verses sanders. if democrats want to lose pick sanders. if they want to win, pick clinton. >> everybody was saying about donald trump six months ago, two months ago, one month ago. >> that may be true but i'm talking about, i'm still on the
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democratic ledger for a moment. if we pick sanders, what do you say again? trump wins in a land slide. >> we'll get to your argument and you could be right. i think you are saying if it's clinton, trump wins. so we're saying if it's sander, trump definitely wins. >> i think if i were donald trump i had rather run against hillary clinton. a product of washington d.c. for many years. >> we don't have time to explain why even though i explained it yesterday. >> we'll come back. >> the headlines we have this morning, this has been another tough day for the markets overseas. closing down more than 2%. it was worse than china where the index dropped more than 3% after yesterday's 249 drop in
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the dow. the future is trading down 214 points. also happening now a day of mourning in pakistan following yesterday's an attack. at least 21 people killed when a gunman went through the school. he pulled out a pistol beginning to fire at the gunman. that professor was killed in the attack. on capitol hill the senate blocked a measure that would tighten screening procedures from refugees coming from syria and iraq. the measure passed in the house last year but senate democrats vowed to block it. obama would veto the legislation. the buffalo bills has camed kathryn smith as their first full-time female assistant. she served rex ryan this season
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following a 12-year-stint. >> she knows her value. >> that's fantastic. >> when we come back on morning joe sarah palin endorsed donald trump tuesday. she was up bright and early yesterday, right. wooeld see how she's trying to profit off donald trump. >> governor chris christie joins us plus the number two democrat in the house. the neck and neck race for his party's presidential nomination. first bill karens with a check on the forecast. how's it looking? >> just as bad if not worse. we now have winter storm warnings that go from little rock to charleston, west virginia, blizzard watch from d.c., baltimore, new york. let's show you what's going to happen. the snow is plowable from
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tennessee to the mid-atlantic. i-81 will be impassable probably for 24 hours. let's get to pacifics. 4 inches of snow is a big deal in memphis. the problem in north carolina is ice. you're going to have up to a half inch of ice in charlotte. possibly the same in the raleigh area. we got to the heavy snow now, areas of virginia, charlottesville 22 inches. washington d.c. calling for 20 inches of snow. that would put them second or third. further to the north totals are a little lower. the snow cut off is right around new york city even though you're under a blizzard watch right now. 9 inches of snow. minor and possible major impact.
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a. we'll move on quickly. donald trump ahead of hillary clinton. 47-44. trump still ahead in one of most important swing states this side of ohio. i just want to say quickly, the thing is my argument, i still say it. you know hillary is a known commodity. she's a product of goldman and sachs. she's been on the wrong side of one war after another war after another war. >> yes.
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>> it's kind of like the first time i ran i was running against all the money and power and when he dropped out everybody said that's great news. >> i said no, that's not great news. i knew him and was ready for him. i don't know this other guy. in 2016 if you're donald trump you want to run against a bush and a clinton. that is your dream. >> i think either clinton or sanders are an easy target. i can't compare the two. hillary could actually beat him. bernie sanders, new york, the blue state would go to trump, the republican. people are not, the masses, he's a 74-year-old socialist. >> why can't hillary beat him? what's going on, donnie? >> i think it's an anti coronation feeling right now. we want to see the show go on and particularly, once we get out of the first two states it's going to change dramatically. >> all those people could go
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away. >> they were saying you know what, i don't want a coronation. >> they weren't lining up to see a reality star they've seen in years. they were lining up to see a 74-year-old vermont senator who grew up tin new york. >> you think bernie sanders is electable? i do too. >> i tell you why i think he's electable. when we had him here for 30 minutes, i was shocked by how many republicans called me up and said i have to admit i like him a lot more than medical center of the people in our field. and nicole wallace's republican father, first choice has always been donald trump, second choice has always been bernie sanders. americans are not idea logical.
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i discovered that, willie, about my third day on the house floor. >> and the choices are out there. >> that's fascinating what you just said. i would go for donald trump as the front runner and my second choice is a socialist all the way the other way. that's fascinating. >> but that's america. >> the same people, i will say it again. no more fascinating than the same people supporting bobby kennedy and moved over to george wallace after bob ri kennedy was assassinated. same one who stood at the schoolhouse door in alabama when it was bobby kennedy's justice desegregated. the same people that voted for ronald reagan twice voted for bill clinton twice and the same people who voted for bill clinton twice voted for george w. bush twice. >> he says he's a social i was. >> you keep saying that like
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it's impacting people. >> barack obama never said he was a socialist. all the other people, george w. bush never said he was a socialist. i'm just saying. >> he never did. you know what people were say as good about ronald reagan, much less than when he was a socialist. you always hear these guys can't win until they win. >> clearly, he's a likable guy. >> not just like. people vote for candidates they trust and think can get things done jimmy carter, they didn't think could get things done.
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ronald reagan won by two land slides. barack obama, who thought that guy was going to win? george h.w. bush couldn't believe bill clinton was elected president as he was going into the white house and neither could his supporters. >> bernie sanders, say it again. i will steak everything i have. >> don't say that. >> first of all, i know how much you have. don't do it. >> mike and i have a wonderful bet a bet about the nomination. >> mike was just assured six months ago donald trump would never win the nomination. so you're going to win a pick up truck. we'll be right back. we have a lot more. >> there's a curious thing about sarah palin and where is she and
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she met the news of the arrest of her son whose on iraq veteran head on and seems to lay the blame at the feet of president obama. >> i can talk personally about this. i guess it's kind of an elephant in the room because my own family going through what we're going through today with my son, a combat vet having served in a striker brigade fighting for you all, america, but they come back a bit different, hardened, wondering if there is that respect for what it is they have given to the country. we need to elect a commander in chief who will respect our troops. our vets deserve a commander in chief who will let them do their
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job and go kick isis' ass. >> willie, apparently, there was a bigger problem here that had nothing do do with president -- to do with president obama or isis. >> yeah, i want to be respectful of her son's problem she said he had because that's a big thing. a lot of veterans i spoke to and read from yesterday, veterans groups were very offended she would lump this in as a problem veterans have, all of them have. vets have been trying to fight this damaged vet label that they get when they come back. this doesn't help. if we can use this as a spring board and make ptsd as an issue. i think a lot of that as kperchted the implication. all of this was laid at the feet
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of the vet and number two it was president obama's fault. >> it's one of the most offensive things she's ever said. >> i think the trump campaigns needs to send her home and let her take care of her family problems and not make it part of his campaign. there was a reason she wasn't in iowa yesterday. she doesn't need to be in the campaign trail. she needs to be back with her family and stop being a distraction to donald trump and stop trying to raise money and exploit donald trump for money. >> palin's political group trying to raise money. after touring the country and hearing from thousands of people, governor palin went all in for donald trump. >> and talk about a lot of
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money. >> who talked about this? she did? >> yeah, in the pac letter. she needed money because she was supporting donald trump. i think donald would pay for her plane ticket wherefore she goes. she needs to stay in alaska. >> one legend of the senate says he would pick donald trump over ted cruz while he said it would be in one word. we'll be back in a moment. when your type 2 diabetes numbers aren't moving in the right direction,
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didn't know that. how did he not know that. then he said with the loans, oh, i didn't know that. smart guy. he doesn't know that. yeah, that's worse than hillary when you think about it. >> right now, the washington establishment is abandoning marco rubio. they made the assessment marco can't win this race and the washington establishment is rushing over the support donald trump. indeed, mr. trump said they should support him because he said ted won't go alone to get alone. he won't make deals with the democrats. mr. trump's pitch to the washington establishment is he's a deal maker. he'll go and cut a deal with chuck and nancy and those deals and will go exactly what john and mitch have done. >> ted cruz there reacting to another day of heavy attacks against him. this time from the 1996 republican nominee, bob dole who told the new york times the
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party would face wholesale losses if they nominated cruz. that's pretty clear. i don't know how he's going to deal with congress. nobody likes him. he called the leader of the republicans a liar on the senate floor. you go to their office if you want to call them a liar, not the senate floor and make it public. he thinks donald trump is the only person who can stop cruz from getting the nomination. >> mark, i cannot believe how effecti effective donald trump has been over the past two weeks. here's a guy from the second he got into politics on the offense. >> donald trump punched him in the face two weeks ago. he has been back on his heels
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since. >> you would think the guy at the top would be getting the most attacks. in fact, bush, rubio, kasich, christie are getting the most attacks. second attacks are going after cruz. right now, jeb bush and cruz, almost no one's taattacking tru. >> joining us now politics writer for the atlanticatlantic. you write perhaps the g.o.p.'s chaos is normal preprimary tension. for many republicans, the ones not living in fantasy land, it feels like something deeper.
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it feels like a dual. some republicans who have moved through the stages of grief from denial to bargaining if not yet acceptance have gone to suggest trump might not be referable to cruz. the scariest process of all is that he means what he says. as ted cruz tells it, the republican party has done this to himself. it's his job and that of the grass roots to destroy the party. >> you talked to trent last night and he was saying the same thing we are starting to hear over the past several days. we'll take trump over cruz. i think in part, a florida poll which shows trump beating hillary in florida. >> yes, that's a part of it. if you were forced to choose, he
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cringed and studdered and i would take trump over cruz. he called mitch a liar on the floor of the senate and you don't do that. that's not something gentleman do. the idea it's defensive to a sense of decor. the reaction of this is an endorsement for ted cruz to have somebody like a senator saying they're that scared of ted cruz backs up everything ted cruz is saying about how scared the establishment is of him. i wrote that article this past weekend. i feel like the events are validating it a little bit. >> no doubt about it. jeremy peters, if donald trump were just the conservatives candidate, it might be devastating. he's not. he's picking up support from moderates, conservatives and tea partiers. i'm wondering hearing one person after another from bob dole to
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terry in iowa was the most dramatic coming out which was vote for anybody but ted cruz. i wonder if at the end of the day that doesn't have an impact. >> i think that's right. there's a thing going on right now as we were talking about earlier, you're right. these people are not necessarily of a certain party. that's why a lot of people are trying to decide between donald trump and bernie sanders. one thing i don't understand and molly talks about republicans being in the state of denial. i think they might be in a state of denial about donald trump. they think they can just wash their hair of him if he becomes the nominee. he won't have done damage to the party and won't have ruptured it. i think republican voters, voters in general right now are so angry to assume this is about donald trump is a serious miscalculation. >> i think you're right. i heard the same thing from the cruz supporters. the old guard, old washington
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can't stand ted cruz because he's a revolutionary. they view this as a lot of what they've said. where does this anti cruz venom come from in the establishment? it can't just be in the senate. when you talk to people in the establishment in washington they really don't like this guy. why is it? >> oh, he is an i h-- he has a believes he's consistent about. it was ted cruz who led the government shut down. there's the idea he's so devoted to his principals which is something a lot think is a good thing. he's willing to go all the way over the brink in pursuit of those. he's not going to compromise. that's a decree essential for him for a lot of people.
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a rally in iowa, sarah palin gave a 20 minute speech. at least i think she was endorsing donald trump. >> the selfie sticks and the greek columns and all that stuff, you with the hands that rock the cradle, right winging bitter clinging crowd clingers. only one candidate's record of success proves he's the master of the deal. >> what? what's interesting is that in 100 years students will have to memorize that speech. >> four score and welcome back to morning joe. it's thursday, january 21st. along with former demeanor cat
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rancic congressman harold ford junior and republican pollster, good to have you all on board. >> with 11 days to the iowa caucus caucuses, there's new polls out in the republican field. >> i will say i like looking at the national polls, sort of as the tide goes up and down, this state, you kneneed to look at international states. >> there's the new hampshire one. this is the story we've been talking about for a long time. if you add up christie, kasich, rubio, bush, you have enough there to give donald trump the
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run. i guess if you don't want trump to be the nominee at this point, what you have to cling to is the idea he loses iowa. he doesn't handle it well and people start turning and you look at that and new hampshire is setting up so well. >> you ask why the polls are showing him down. >> i thought it was a bad sign when they were talking about a three, two, one strategy. the first thing i thought of was steve forbes ran for president in 1996 with the strategy.
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what he found out was if you don't factor in iowa and new hampshire, you can't jump start your campaign after being seen as fizzling in iowa and new hampshire. that's the danger for rubio. if he doesn't get an impressive showing, you can't jump start it after. >> it's interesting. we had molly here with the atlantic up in new hampshire yesterday. she said trump is just flaying on such a different level. we had germany pejeremy peters had big crowds out there. how many? 150. donald trump would be on suicide watch if 150 people showed up at a rally.
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look at all these polls and in florida he's almost at 50%. he's ahead in just about every other state in the nation except iowa and tied there. should the establishment just give up and say you know, we surrender to trumpism? >> i don't think the establishment should give up. i think a lot of these candidates who are pulling at third or fourth or fifth in new hampshire who at the moment haven't focussed on donald trump need to wake up and realize he's the one standing between them and the nomination. >> why won't they attack, why are they afraid of donald trump? >> i think for some of them, donald trump is such an unusual adversary and the moment you start to go for him, he turns around and goes for you, the jugular and you're gone. if i'm marco rubio, john kasich, chris christie, i'm concerned about trying to get donald
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trump's attention turned on me. maybe not chris christie. iowa is right around the corner and new hampshire is right around the corner. the leads are too big to be made up for just by abunch of people staying home. >> it looks to us and what we've been saying here for the last several minutes is donald trump is a man on himself and the rest of those candidates are going to brawl for second place and when you go down the list you wouldn't be surprised if anyone, any of those guys came in second place. >> and you've heard the candidates talk about this
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themselves. it is a five way race for second right now. >> for them, that's the ceiling. they're betting this will potentially be a fight that's not clinched into april or later at the campaigns since in my view the delegates in march are greater th greater than the delegate state. i was at waive and give up of his events late last night.
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kasich is hoping to turn people around with an optimistic world view. we had an interesting conversation where they described his campaign and other campaigns. we've been plugging away. we have people who have disciples and the darkness. i think we can lift the country and solve problems. >> so the prince of light verses the disciples of darkness. i said you're talking about donald trump, right. he's the disciple of darkness. no. we have a lot of people looking in the past who continue to hit president obama and his view.
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>> how's it looking in new hampshire, ali? >> i have to tell you in some of my reporting, i'm not sure the campaign would be on board with characterizing it with their strategy. it's what they see could happen. i think in new hampshire for rubio, it's a tough race for him. you look at the cnn one from yesterday showing him with jeb bush at i believe 10%. at this point there is still 2.5 weeks so time for a candidate to try to create momentum and push forward. rubio is pulling crowds. it's a different mriing field and a different race.
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>> jeb has gone to 10. the polls way, way behind donald trump. it will be trump wins exclamation point and trump
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second. >> i think i tweeted. the guy is working his ass off. i'm proud to know him. he's got a lot of grudge and respect for keeping his head down and remaining who he is. yeah, i think it's a possibility. >> well, what you can say too now is he has been so beaten up and battered and made fun of with the exclamation mark, if he finished second that's a huge win for him. anybody who finishes second, that next morning. >> what if it were john kasich, chris christie, now they can say i'm the one to step forward and
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take on trump. >> the only difference between kasich and christie finishing second and jeb bush finishing second, south carolina's next for jeb bush. if i had to pick a state built for jeb bush, it would be the establishment republican state of south carolina. bush does well enough and actually a three, two, one strategy, that's bush's strategy. if he's third in iowa and he's second in new hampshire and he's first in south carolina, he's got the money, the organization to take it to the convention against trump. >> i feel like to make that work for bush, the thing bush needs in new hampshire is cruz to lose iowa. if cruz loses iowa, that's going to hurt him big time in south carolina. >> if cruz loses iowa, it's over. if trump wins iowa, i don't see anybody stopping him. >> if this race gets extended and trump wins iowa over cruz,
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r. >> at that point the bet is money will flow in and i would also say don't forget about ted cruz in new hampshire. it's significant hooets finishing up a four day bous tour a couple of days before iowa feeling confident and making a play for new hampshire. you'll see ted cruz here before the primary and he's hoping to peel off the libra tarn votes and go after the smaller slice of evangelicals here. i wouldn't count him out just yet.
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the biggest factor, are they more likely to vote in the hillary clinton fight or the trump primary? >> when we to the diners and restaurants, they say we'll figure it out. i think there's questions how you push that forward to north carolina and beyond. >> we've heard people who support trump say they like bernie sanders. it's all --
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>> trump sort of defies that. if you look at the attacks people tried to use against donald trump, it's all the attacks he's not a true republican or true conservativc. voters feel like the world is falling apart and they haven't gotten a win in a while. whether you're a good republican or good conservative, that's not a primary consideration. it's are you a fighter and are you strong? i think even though he calls himself a socialist, there's a lot of folks, political ideology is not important to them.
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they just want to win again. they feel bernie sanders or donald trump is the person to fight for them. >> i was talking yesterday to the big republican financial guy and said what are you thinking? trump's a nightmare, he'll get killed. >> really? i said donald trump is going to be able to move to the center like nobody because he's already telling people he supports single payer health care. he supports universal health care. donald trump could be the guy in november that says everybody should get health care insurance and i'm going to go over and kill isis. he can do it and jeb bush and ted cruz can't. he's not idea logical. he can move wherefore the electric wants to be. just think about it. what if you had a candidate that said everybody deserves health
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care and i'm going to kill isis and i'm going to cut their heads off? that's what donald trump can do to scare the hell out of every politician. >> i keep thinking we talk about the elect blt question with trump and sanders surging against hillary clinton. there was a tendency with trump for the longest. >> so this is what i'm going to ask you because this is what we do in the south when he says something like that. all the people said amen. i just want to say, if we live in a world, donnie, where donald trump can win the republican nomination, we live in a world
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where anything can happen. including bernie sanders becoming to next president of the united states. >> i'm going to double down on bernie sanders. >> i will. >> alex, dig up his quotes about donald trump being a joke. >> no. no. no you would find early adopter for me as far as this seriousness. >> there were a lot of early adopters. the baby still stayed in the orphan aj for months and months and months. >> kristin, thank you very much. steve. >> thank you, steve. we love watching you, man. throughout the day you were the best. >> still ahead on morning joe, chuck todd. >> i hope i didn't hurt your reputation saying that. >> we're also going to hear from chris christie. he's already down 156 events there this season. you're watching morning joe. we'll be right back.
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server contained information classified at the most sensitive level. an internal watchdog said they were classified top access programs. they said the finding does not change the fact. yesterday, brian fallon added it is suspected from the beginning that the intelligence community inspector general is continuing to reveal materialins and surfa allegations. here's what clinton herself had to say yesterday on mpr. >> this seems to me to be another effort to inject this into the campaign. i'm going to leave it up to the professionals at the justice departmentment nothing this says changes the fact that i never sent or received material marked classified. >> playing out simultaneously,
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the pentagon is reexamining whether retired army general should be retro actively devoted. >> some of these countries are ripping us off on trade. when you look at what they've done, it's 20 times greater. it's not a contest.
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>> i don't know about being the clinker but i was going to say they would be hiring the same lawyer. hillary has already done that. they would be focussing on a lot more on a possible civil or criminal case. >> he did it tons of documents. shared it with knowingly shared classified. actually, the two aren't comparable. what he did was worse. we don't know the full extent of what hillary clinton did. what we think we know general knowingly shared it. never mind with who he shared it with. let's not get into that part of it. right now, so i think, look.
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>> hillary clinton knowingly openly set up an unsecured server at her home. there's no doubt. knowingly had classifiied information. >> while, no, i don't agree with him at all. while she was secretary of state and while classified information at the highest levels were passing through this unsecured server. going against clear regulations that obama had put in 2009. >> i agree with a big part of what she said. she set up a server. you cannot deny what chuck has said. i don't think general. >> don't tell me i can't because i just did. >> based on what you said, i know how smart you are. you cannot disagree. he knowingly shared. put aside all the other facts. >> and hillary clinton knowingly exposed classified information at the highest levels to hackers
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by setting up a home server and beyond that there was a fax that mark brought up a couple of days ago that was in the paper a day or two ago where somebody was trying to send her classified material and when it couldn't be sent over the fax, he said if you can't send it over the classified fax, send it over electronically. >> general gave it to someone who was not. she was saying send it across because it's going to get to me. >> please, stop trying to set chuck and my up.
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>> i don't disagree with that. someone knowingly giving it to this person and maybe that person can intercept it is very different. >> well, let's wait and actually see how this turns out. >> i don't think general should have gone through all this. >> i made my decision three or four months ago that on this story we were going to let it lie because the fbi is either going to charge her or they're not going to charge her. if they don't. >> harold. >> harold, you are a gd lawyer. >> what does that mean? >> i can't say it on the air. >> how can you say as a lawyer. >> we had a conversation off air
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yesterday. >> how can you say hillary clinton should not be charged when you have no idea what evident the lawyers at the justice department are looking at? >> i would agree on that point. >> don't criticize me personally like you just did. >> let the investigation run its course. >> then agree with chuck. >> what we know now, you cannot say what you're saying. >> i will say it again. let me finish. chuck, i concluded three months ago. >> with no evidence. >> hold on. >> right here. >> i concluded three months ago that we should just let this lie for the most part because the fbi is either going to charge her or they're not going to charge her. if they don't -- >> i agree. >> okay, you should have let me finish the first three times. >> nothing at a said on the political sphere or on tv is
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going to matter. if they charge her then nothing her defenders say is going to matter. this is entirely in the fbi's hands. the rest of us here today we just waisted five minutes. >> by the way, all this talk from what i understand, i think, there's been talk of stripping general of a star but my understanding is, it's not going to happen. >> there's more resent development in the last couple of days for the clinton campaign
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that said this inspector general who was appointed and confirmed was working in crameriwith the s and congress. they're saying he's leaking information. they got an inspector general and one of most important appointees president obama appointed and there's two quick
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theories on that. >> one, maybe the ig is trying to sometimes, they do this because they're trying to alert the fbi. sometimes they think they're not going to do something or think that's right. >> and harold, i don't want to say this but i'm just going to put it out on the table. it's not something i would say around my mom. i hope she's not watching today. gd, you know what it stands for, you're from the south. you're a gosh darn lawyer and a good one at that. i love you too, baby. >> chris christie joins us live. in moments like this. >> when are you going to take the gloves off and start smacking him around? you don't have much time. >> i love new hampshire. his answer and the state of his
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when are you going to take the gloves off? >> you know, i think it's the first time in my political career people have said to me you're not aggressive enough. glad i'm in dairy tonight.
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another first. you know when i will? when i think it makes sense to. i'm not in this to just beat donald trump. i'm in this to become president of the united states. >> and with us now from new hampshire chris christie of new jersey. you are just not strong enough, chris. it makes us really sad. >> no too gentle. >> don't you love new hampshire voters. i've been in all 50 states and new hampshire voters are great and get in your face and there's an 80 second delay. wow. 90 second. >> joe, listen. here i am. sorry, joe. i was trying to figure out what the question was there.
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being called a goomba in dairy is one of the highlights of the campaign. >> i want to know how long the delay is so when i finish talking ratal talking raise your hand. go. oh my god, that is a long delay. you might as well be in pakistan. >> what the hell? >> mika is going to ask you a question and you give a political speech. go ahead. >> how's the campaign going, chris? >> thank you, mika for the slow and deliberate question. i think it's going really well. folks are just not making up their minds. they're still shopping and looking and i can tell it in the town hall meetings. we're getting greater crowds than anyone else up here in terms of town hall meetings.
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>> it's willie. we said a couple of weeks ago you would accept donald trump's win. if you look at it as donald and everybody else, who do you view as your biggest threat in new hampshire? who are you looking at and saying i've got to knock this guy off? >> you know, willie, i've got to tell you, it's such fun stuff, i don't think you can pick. those trying to select one person are hurting themselves. the one person i'm going to focus on in the next 19 days is the guy you see in the camera with the delay. it's me.
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that's what i have to worry about over the next 19 days. that's what i have to do. we're all bunched up whether it's me or marco. we're all bunched up in a group. ted cruz. we're all bunched up. let's see who breaks out. i think the way you breakout, joe made this point. they are incredible folks and you've got to come here and earn it. i'm not sure what's going to happen here with donald trump either. he's doing something unorthodoxed in new hampshire campaigning better than anyone else. >> we're going to offend you by letting donnie ask the next question. >> for god's sakes, i'm going to come on the program. >> hey governor. >> i wouldn't have come on the program if i known donnie was on. >> i always take shots at you. i appreciate talking to you. i want to pick up where the woman left off last night.
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>> it's stunning to me i'm not accepting donnie's advice after all the great things he said to me over the years. nonetheless, i don't have any desire right now at all to engage with any one particular person. one thing i will tell you is as
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i travelled in the state yesterday i had a half dozen people come up to me and say to me they're really disgusted with the adds up here and all the negativity from jeb bush and marco rubio. they said we're happy you're above in fray. >> governor, chris christie, thank you so much. we appreciate you being there and fighting your way through the way. good luck on the campaign trail today. we'll see you soon. we have hoyer in the green room. >> one of hillary clinton's earliest backers. we're going to ask him why bernie sanders is giving her such a run for her money.
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do you think a socialist could win president of the united states? >> i think it would be impossible for a self-declared socialist to win in states like missouri. to win states like indiana, ohio, pennsylvania. it is hard for most americans to see how socialism would cure the problems that we are facing right now. there's a lot of work we have to do. we need to bring the country together. not nominate people who sit on the opposite ends of the spectrum because people are angry and need to blow things up. >> still trying to figure out chris christie's murder suicide pack. >> that was disturbingly fun. >> i can understand if he said i want to murder you. >> i think, never mind.
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joining us now congressman of maryland and now you're entitled to a 25 second delay. you have to explain bernie sanders success to us. >> it's crazy. i remember telling people when rand paul was exploding and they said what was it like working with him and i said -- now we have a democrat, a guy like bernie sanders he was also sort of this guy off to himself and now the look, it's like seeing your next door neighbor growing up up to be bono. >> i think we have a lot of angry, upset people who think those guys who have been in charge aren't doing a great job.
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they're appearing to people not perceived. >> you know bernie. you're surprised, aren't you, the huge crowds out there? >> i'm not surprised at the diseffected on the left and right are looking for something different and i think in our party, bernie is something different and the republican party has three candidates that are different. >> there's different like donald trump, very different. bernie sanders, i think different is a little bit of a con den sending terin sending t. he has served for decades. he has been consistent, he has had integrity. he means what he says and says what he means. that's something people are finally looking for.
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might be different but that's not his fault. >> okay, mika, let him answer. >> you're using different as a projorty. you're different than i am. that's just a fact. bernie has made himself an independent socialist voting with the democratic party and made himself different than the rest of the members of the senate caucus. that doesn't mean he's bad or good but he's different. i think bernie speaks for folks who want to see something different. i think rand paul did the same. they want to see somebody who speaks differently and has a more expansive view. >> have you been able to work with him on anything? ? he was a member of the democratic caucus. he was fine to work with and supportive of the policies that we wanted to put in place.
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>> the real different now, jeb bush or is in reality donald trump and bernie and had if 20 is 16, you know, this the thing we've seen in 2016 is and you've seen it on the front lines, people are angry. they want the sanders, they want the trumps, they want the people that shake things up. >> yeah. i think that's accurate.
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add again, bernie sanders is certainly not different in the same way that trump, cruz and carson are different than -- >> ted cruz couldn't even get a second person in the senate to support him on getting a vote. >> cruz is somebody who is had way out of the mainstream, very, very ideological and very unwilling to compromise at all within a democracy. if you work in a legislative body, you have to work with the people. it's not just you. it's not a dictatorship. ted cruz has not heard that drum. bernie is a mainstream candidate in that he talks about the issues i think people are concerned about, hillary is talking about the same issues.
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they're don't have a slug fest. the other side is having a slug fest to two did very, very different sides of politics. jeb bush wants to talk about issues and trump wants to talk about being tough. >> when you said in an interview bernie sanders raises issues that are important but i don't think there's any expectations he's going to be president of the united states. four months on, do you still believe he won't be president ofs united states? >> i think that bernie sanders will not be president of the united states. i think hillary clinton is going to win the primaries, maybe not every one of the primaries but i think she's going to be our nominee and president of the united states because i think the american public in the final analysis will say i want somebody who is reasonable, substantive, experienced, tough enough to take on the challenge
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thachallenges that we have but also understands the plight of life. i think they're going to compare hillary clinton in the final analysis and i think she's going to be be elected. >> all those issues you just mentioned. >> as far as being different goes, it's interesting, bernie sanders voted with the democratic -- >> there's controversy -- >> i'm saying he voted with the democratic party the 90% of the time. we love having you and we'd love to come down and talk. >> it's a deal. >> let's do it. >> and boys and boys, the word of the day is different. congressman steny hoyer, thank you very much. >> president obama's motorcade
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>> they're cute! >> he's an option. >> good morning, everyone. it's thursday, january 21st. it's my mom's birthday. oh, my gosh. happy birthday. i got it get on that. >> she's getting a snowstorm for her birthday. >> yes, she is. she's getting a huge storm in washington. donny deutsche is with us. happy birthday. and harold ford jr. you're back. you guys still talking? >> i love joe. >> i thought you meant you and will willie. >> you guys between the segments yesterday. and it was off the air. >> there were no fisticuffs, were they? >> no, but we started comparing golf clubs and it got nasty. >> on capitol hill, we have "new york times" reporter jeremy peters and managing editor o
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of bloomberg politics, mark halperin. m she said this was a decision that i reached, i consulted with people and decided this was the best way to approach it. >> six. >> six debates. everybody went after him, including martin o'malley. >> it's a long wind-up. and so, mika, on the fifth rotation, you go like, there boom, okay? >> so that's it. >> let's pass it around. >> so, will liie geist, obvious what mika speaks of is
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democrats, you screwed yourselves. you limited your to six debates now they're going to put more debates in after the entire democratic establishment tried to lock this down and it's blown up in their face. >> they're going to do a town hall and gave the candidates one more bite at the apple. >> it's a forum. >> we said this for months and months. i think when the history of the campaign is written, the dnc's behavior will be criticized in an unflattering way. the dnc has done a terrible job. >> all of them not helping hillary clinton. this does not, again, i would vote for her, she won the nomination. they're not getting her there. >> what's interesting is good democrats, who are also good hillary supporters, harold ford,
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said we need more debates anyway. they're hiding the debates on sunday nights and going up against nfl games. i think you've been saying thee need more deavbates. it needs the narrative that the political process is rigged and the big with bosses are rigging it for their favorite candidates. >> i said early on i thought the chairwoman was wrong about picking only five or six debates. martin o'malley raised it very early in the campaign. whether they thought they were helping mrs. clinton or in the helping her, that's not the issue. this is a democratic process. we deserve the opportunity to hear from these candidates -- >> it april peripeared to be her and now that it's not -- >> you talking abouts will
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clinton? >> hillary. this is the prevent defense, they've made a mistake and it's blowing up in their face. the great eirony is if there's nomination locked up quick, it could be the republican nomination. i've been talking to so many supporters of hillary, so many democrats in the week and a half and they're scratching their heads and saying they don't know what's going on and that bernie sanders cannot be the nomination of our party. >> i ironically think this is going to end up being good on hillary. the rap on hillary was, okay,
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we're just corin eighting her. if she loses new hampshire, that's about $200 million of earned media going into the south. >> but going to the south where it's going to change. even it he wins those first two -- >> how do you know it's going to change? >> i don't think there's enough of an electorate. >> donny says it very well. he should be in the campaign for our candidate. >> i actually think he allows her to define herself as somebody towards the middle. i think these sparring rounds are going to help her long term. also, people want to see her, you know, beat up a little. i don't mean literally of
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course. why doesn't she have to fight? >> mark halperin, it could help in the general election if she gets there but in the democratic party right now, she's being massively painted as a product of goldman sachs and a neocon and that was devastating and it was devastating when barack obama used it against her in twa 2008 and it seems to be workingnow. i saw 7,000 people at a rally in alabama. >> with all due respect to donny, i don't think anybody can tell what you the world looks like in the democratic nomination fight if sanders wins the first two states. here clearly has the momentum.
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she needs opportunities to right hersh her ship. bill clinton was as good as i've seen him. what's the right frame to try to take sanders down and stop his moment um? >> i disagree with mark on bill clinton pup said clinton. you said he used to be the big dog. clinton seems old. >> bill clinton and donald trump are the same age. they don't look it. bernie sanders at 74 seems to be far more assertive and aggressive and in 2016 reminding
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peeling of 1998 and 1999 talking about how bill's problems of the 1990s were impacting hillary with the younger voters right now. >> she talked about lena dunnham having questions early on. she said she had questions about his behavior. it should still be said that bill clinton is a wildly popular figure inside the democratic party. if you just look at poll numbers, he's still a titan in that party. however he looks and sounds, that's one conversation. with you he's still a popular figure. >> if you're going against bernie sandersthis in new hampshire, can i just complement
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his clothing? if you are chasing a guy from burlington, vermont and you're trying to paint yourself as a new hampshire person, bingibing. i know it sounds shallow but mitt romney would have worn a three-piece suit. >> the problem with the cardigan is the trump familiy crest is s large on it. >> i don't know because i've never worn an ascot.
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judging the top two candidates, 27% of republicans say trump has a better chance of defeating hillary clinton. and with new hampshire voting, in 19 days, trump is still on top while the deck is shuffling beneath him. cruz climbed 8 points to 14%, bush is at 10%, tiedwith marco rubio.
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>> mark halperin, this is probably the fourth or fifth state poll that shows marco rubio down 5 points or 3 points or however many points and show jeb bush inching slowly up. do we have a redistribution of the establishment vote? are people giving up on marco and saying we need to give up n onhim? >> butmarco as losing. he's losingthree points here, losing three or four points. it's marked while other candidates seem to be going up, we are seeing marco rubio in every single poll going down. i'm not picking on him. you're in new hampshire. you're on the ground. why is this guy losing support? >> well, in part i think because
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the other three establishment candidates, christie, casey and bush -- rubio is the odds on favorite. the great thing for trump and cruz is that rubio, there's this equalization. you've got four guys, rubio, christie, kasich and bush, all fighting hard here and they may end up with 10% of the vote each, which would be incredible with trump and cruz because trump and cruz could be one-two iowa and one-two new hampshire. cruz is at least as strong as the other three establishment candidates. >> again, i'm not trying to say that marco rubio as campaign is a in a dire situation but come
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on, mark. any campaign this you have three or four state polls that matter and you're down four points with a week to go before the first caucus is a problem. very quickly, any theory of the case? why is he dropping from florida to nam? >> one is he has been battered by negative atax. two is i think some people as they choose up sides are choosing someone who they think can take on trump, can that i can on cruz. that's got to be a part of the job description if you want that establishment slot. and they finally i think yieb by not picking a stit, by hedging his bets everywhere, i think ults hurting him everywhere because there's nowhere he's putting in the time some of his rivals are state by state.
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>> finish third in ayia, second in new hampshire and they down to florida. how deutch so you have see his prospect? >> the negative ait can ads have been a big component of this. they've aired in heavy rotation in new hampshire. i was in iowa with marco earlier this week. and there is something going on there and it's kind of a reminder of how new hampshire likes to undo what iowa himself done. >> what's going on there? >> he's getting big crowds. you have that going on where he's gaining momentum anecdotally in iowa, while ted
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cruz's numbers are really, really climbing in new hampshire. ted cruz, the candidate that everybody hates, has strong favorability ratings. ted cruz is now even with him. >> still ahead on "morning joe ", sarah palin misses one campaign event but hear what she says on
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day after endorsing donald trump, sarah palin was a no
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show. >> she met the news of her son's arrest head on. >> i can talk personally about this. i guess it's kind of elephant in the room, because my own family going through what we're going through today with my son, a combat vet, having served in a strike are brigade, fighting for you all america in the war. >> -- zone, but they come back wondering like what other air men have given so sacrificially. our vets demand a commander in chief who will let them do their job and go kick isis ass!
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>> willie, apparently there was a bigger problem that had nothing to did with president obama what and isis with her son that she's talking about. >> i want to be reef expespectf her son's problem and more respectful to the domestic abuse victim. a lot of veterans were offended that she would lump this in to the problems they have. veterans have been trying to fight this label that they get when they come back. this doesn't help. i think a lot of vets that this was all laid at the feet of
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president obama. >> he punched her in the face. shame on you, sarah palin. >> i think actually the trump campaign needs to send her home and let her take care of her family problems and not make it part of the campaign. i think there was a reason she wasn't in iowa yesterday. she doesn't need to be on the campaign trail. she noods eeds to be back on th campaign trail. >> and an e-mail from sara pac reads after touring the country on her book tour and hearing from thousands of people, governor palin went all in for trump. >> and talked about traveling cost as lot of money. >> who talked about that? she did? >> yeah, in the pac letter.
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she needed money because she was supporting donald trump. i think donald will pay for they are plane ticket, wherever she's going. >> what's happening in flint? you know, i am very proud of what i've done as president -- [ cheers and applause ] -- but the only job that's more important to me is the job of father. and i know that if i was a parent up there, i would be beside myself that my kids' health could be at risk. >> the latest on flint, michigan. the governor releases his e-mail for two years. but how long before the water is fit to drink again? but a check of the markets first when we come back.
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meanwhile, the drop in oil
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prices fell to a 12-year low. >> that's unbelievable. sara? >> how low can oil prices go? what's it look like this morning? >> it's hard to predict how low oil prices can go. we're shocked to see the speed and level on the oil prices. they lost 25% in 2016 alone. mika mentioned the volatility yesterday. is it signaling a recession potentially or a broader global slowdown? economists this morning are saying it's a global slowdown. it's because when you have the
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price of oil falling so far so fast, down 19 months in a row, you have countries around the world getting really hurt by that and central banks -- and people are wondering where the relief is going to come from. that's some of the fear in this oversupplied world where the world is flooded with oil. the latest trigger is with iran with the sanctions lifted it, can now flood the world with oil. like saudi arabia, they make money off commodities and they're getting slammed and they're ramping up production. >> i thought you were going to ask me where sara and i have been shopping. this lovely shade of green. sara, you look fabulous. >> it's the color of the day, no
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doubt about it. >> oil has been selling off because of supply concerns. there's just way too much of it. there's a global supply glut. run is one more country exploiting the market. now people are thinking there is also a demand side to selling oil. china is growing at the slowest level it has in 25 years so there will be less appetite. >> to date we're not even through january. how far does this go? >> nobody is sure. we're going to have to see the price of oil stabilize. we wept an unusually long period
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of time without a correction. what happened is the central bank is starting to raise rates. every time the stock market started to wobble, the head. central back would come out and say, no, no, we got your back, we're going to keep rates low are for longer and actually the return of volatility cab health a healthy thing. >> okay, that's the bright side. >> still ahead, e-mails released by michigan governor rick snyder sheds light on why the state took so long to adoctors issues of lead-tainted water in flint. at every turn...
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snyder has relast documents related to the water crisis. in one particularly revealing e-mail a top aide wrote to snyder saying some in flint were turning the issue of children as lead exposure into a political football. he tried to make the point that the real responsibility rests with the county, city and the water authority. governor snyder has apologized to the people of flint and promised to fix the mess. he also moved yesterday to appeal the obama administration's rejection of his request for a major disaster declaration. he says the crisis warrants additional federal funding. doesn't it? the flint water crisis is this week's cover story for "time"
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magazine, entitled "the poisoning of an american city." ben goldberger joins you now. what of this being a national disaster? is that a question? >> they've declared it a federal emergency. the reason that we think this is such an important tragic story that needs to be told at this level is that clean water is such an elemental right that we take government's ability to provide it as an absolute given. it is more primary than even the right to vote and is as elemental as air and a series of calamitous decisions deprived the people of that right.
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>> general motors said they were going to stop using the water because it was corroding engine parts, made the announcement public. where in the world with local officials, state officials, national officials to say if it's corroding metal, it's probably not good for our children? >> isn't that one of the most galling things about it? that jumped at us, too. when general motors says that's corroding the engines it puts in automobiles. and yet long before it turned into a national story, officials were silent. >> ben, how much of a harbinger is this for -- are we going to see cracks in bridges? is this a precussor of more to come? >> i wouldn't go so far as to call this a precursor but this
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demonstrates a vulnerability around the country. in flint the water was so corrosive that it leached led utter inkp tense to actually make it happen at this level and have it be sustained as it was. >> you look do you to donny deutsche, look at the bridges we gopher, the tunnels. they were all the built during the great depression. they are all, as joe biden said, look at third world airports. angela merkel, she's having a very tough time politically and some have speculated she's going to lose her fight. what happened?
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>> because of what happened on new year as eve, the attacks on a number of unsuspecting people, totally innocent victims -- >> over 350 sexual assaults committed against women? >> a number of whom were migrants from africa and the middle east. >> how big of a crisis is this for her that, again, on new year as you ul refugees, immigrants, sexual assaults of over 300 germans. >> this is very big. it's certainly as large as the speck tr of terror she's had to combat. this is absolutely a direct challenge to everything she has tried to did with opening her
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oo. so we heard jirmy talk -- ja jeremy talking about the huge crowds? >> the oklahoma primary is on march 1st. >> we saw this in pensacola. mike l you mike lupica, i never saw anything coming out of pensacola like what's going on for donald trump.
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it's nothing like any of us have ever soon in politics before. >> joe, donny and i were talking about this before i came out. i wrote this months ago. from the start this guy not only showed up how good he was at this, he was enjoying himself. >> he's having a good time. >> and you look at hillary and she looks so often when she was giving one of these speechs like she's -- speeches like she's cutting a hostage tape. >> that's what clinton had. he's out there and he loves it and you know it. >> this is my favorite part of the campaign. it's like they're running for
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president of god. when he said two corinthians the other day, who didn't think it was the beginning of a joke. two corinthians walk into a bar. >> why are you laughing? >> mika -- i wreote a book with rej oo jackson once. he dedicated it to his biggest supporter, to god. he made it sound like god was dedicating the book to him. >> while you see the genius behind donald trump that would surprise a lot of people, you are not as big a even of ted cruz. let's read an excerpt -- >> here as part of what you wrote about ted cruz earlier
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this week. >> it's just mean. >> ted cruz, one of the great phonies to ever run for president says that he is the candidate best suited to unify the country? he can only hope to union ooify why he only has his on party, which hates him more than it hates the president. this is about someone who carries himself as the one candidate speaking up the american values, who carries himself like some kind of american hero, even though his campaign slogan should be this: where's mine? >> this was the second -- >> we're upset about the new york values issue. >> it was a preposterous thing to say. i think he walked into a right hand from most of the country who appreciates new york values.
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there was an old movie "a touch of class" that talked about typical new yorkers. george segal said are you tacking about the typical new yorkers on 125th street, upper west side, upper east side? to lump everybody in and act like -- when he said "new york values," he made it sound like it was another insult against trump's hair. he made it sound like a bad thing. new york values a good thing. >> and almost all americans agree post 9/11. new yorkers are on the front line of the war on terror. they've done an incredible job. >> joe, the great pete hammel, one of the great writers, he used the image of a boxer
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getting to one knee and then collecting himself and then standing up again. that's what new york values are. >> and we're big are and we're better and we're tougher than ever before. and your book -- >> going right to my nephew will -- >> and my son jack. >> this is about a boy who got he is self-esteem back by getting himself into shape. he'd been overweight and out of shape most of his life. his friends tell him there's a jock inside. now football season comes along. he loves football the most. just as he makes the team, his divorced father comes back in his life after having no part in it since he was about 4 years old. and this book kind of tips the whole father, son and sports thing on his side. this boy always wanted a father and then when he gets him back, he's not too thrilled to have
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fellow goomba going to take the gloves off and smart smacking him around? you don't have much time. >> i think it's the first time in mypolitical career you're not aggressive enough. i'm glad in i'm derry tonight. you know when i will? when i think it makes sense to. i'm not in this to just beat donald trump. i'm in this to become president of the united states. >> welcome back to "morning joe." i wanted to ask you about the tennis scandal. it's not getting as much coverage. >> this is serious stuff. people in tennis have known something like this has been going on for a long time. the only thing that separates professional wrestling from the sports we love is we think what we're watching is on the level. they have to attack this.
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>> chris christie told me he wants to have a murder/suicide with me. that means he wants to kill moo and then kill himself. i think a reporter needs to ask him about that. >> i don't think i want to know. >> i learned that bernie sanders by some democrats' estimate is different yet he's voted with the democratic caucus 97% of the time so the word different is very interesting to me. >> well, i don't think it was meant as an attack. >> i don't think it was an attack either but i don't understand what's different. he's with them zip think actually what's different about bernie sanders come out it see bernie sanders. >> he feels different. >> and it can always prompt what sarah palin calls a good squirmish. supposed loy this will be a good one. >> this is good material.
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>> you like that? >> i luke touching you also. >> stick around, "msnbc live" begins now. >> good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. a pof tntentially historic wint storm takes aim against the east coast. communities in the storm's path are already preparing. the system is expected to become a major snowstorm by tomorrow with some areas bracing for more than a foot of snow, damaging winds, significant icing and coastal flooding. >> i would advise people to not overreact yet but to get prepared. go ahead and start doing your shopping and get ready. we're going to have some type

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