tv MSNBC Live With Jose Diaz- Balart MSNBC January 21, 2016 6:00am-8:01am PST
>> you like that? >> i luke touching you also. >> stick around, "msnbc live" begins now. >> good morning. i'm jose diaz-balart. a pof tntentially historic wint storm takes aim against the east coast. communities in the storm's path are already preparing. the system is expected to become a major snowstorm by tomorrow with some areas bracing for more than a foot of snow, damaging winds, significant icing and coastal flooding. >> i would advise people to not overreact yet but to get prepared. go ahead and start doing your shopping and get ready. we're going to have some type of a serious snowstorm.
>> we're trying to get chains on every vehicle, get plows on every vehicle that could carry a plow. >> even president obama getting a crippled by a small snow last night. we're surrounding this story from all angles. let's start with nbc meteorologist bill karins. how is this looking right now? >> just about as bad as we expected, maybe even worse now for a few southern cities that don't deal with this weather. torn detoday, ice storm friday, and even the possibility of coastal flooding. the storm still in two pieces. one has with brought snow it kansas and nebraska. the other thing strong storm the
enhanced risk of severe storms goes from mobile back to new orleans. much of the new orleans area will get hit after dak. it's hard to determine if there are tornadoes with the storms or not. it will start earlier towards houston and the shreveport area. our latest total snow for the entire event. what's been changed overnight is the snow totals have increased in areas like memphis, when memphis can get three to six inches of snow, that's a big deal for a southern city. the other thing that has changed is through the carolina a including the charlotte area. that could be probably the worst spot. of course the bulls eye tuns to be up here in areas of western
virginia and northern virginia and portions of. >> did c. let moo go through some. ski citis, 6, 11 inches. not a lot of snow in charlotte and raleigh in is where the ice will be covering the treefs, power lines falling. this is where you should be prepared for a couple of days without power. all snow once you get to greensboro, where you'll be digging out o for a full we're still thinking as two feet as a possibility here. once you get west into the mountains, that's where it going to be drifting and blowing all over the place. southern new england's looking in the clear. nothing from newbury to hartford. that's a sneeze. you're fine with that.
new york are is -- the first flakes wouldn't even fall until 48 had hours from now. philadelphia is still looking bat a foolt and baltimore right around two feet. and the other story will be the winds. the wind gusts up to 70 miles per hour could knockpower out even for coastal areas. this storm has it out. tornadoes, ice storm, blizzard, coastal flooding in huge waves. >> winds. >> everything. >> you tweeted last night about the president as modeor cade running into this weather. oup the lead are of the free
world no match for an inch of snow in the dmv." >> president obama is a victim to the ineptitude of the dvm region when it comes o it snow. he landed at 7:450. took him an hour it get to the white house. that'sbecause the roads here, our eno -- the local leaders were looking ahead to the storm this weekend. now where i am right now in the northeast d.c., littin me no if trucks are going to come in and out this morning, they're going to start to treat these roads. wuf, jose, it was hellacious. 6, 7-hour route it o.
>> i read one story of a guy who said i got to turn around and go back to work and i as j.f.k. once said, it's a torn with kwo tr -- expect a disaster this weekend. the city, they don't know what they're doing. i can say that as a life long resident. my advice, don't drive here on saturday. you saw when a half inch did last night. if two feet hit, you'll have to send for me because i'm going to be stranded here.
>> what ruare you saying, cal? >> i'm from new york city. i'm okay with luke's con stat mocking. let's pit up the traffic map from last night. this was making its rounds on twitter. this is after an inch of snow. it's completely roo dick louse. it -- ridiculous. i had much 95 completely jammed last night in is the major thoroughfare that feeds into d.c. from live in the surrounding suburbs. that will be a nightmare this weekend. >> it was really just this layer. average cute about four hours. i was following and dro a mitchell, who was having a nightmare getting home. also, the schools are out.
it didn't even real snow last night. the fairfax public school calling out and saying they don't expect road conditions to improve any time soon. >> one of the hardest areas could be the area around new jersey bhap is chris christie going to do? >> i wassing i guess new hampshire is not going to get any snow but new jersey looks like a foot of snow p snow around trenton. you think of chris harper mercer right now. he nad him inremember a year before hurricane sandy back in 2011, there was irene. that's when chris christie went on television and told everybody
get the health off the beach. he wore the fleece jacket and got all the pictures from central control. it kind of made chris christie famous. he's planning to be camped out where he is and preting going. he has events scheduled throughout the day on saturday. meanwhile woor he's got that reputation for handling this a foot of snow in tronton and possibly more in other areas. will chris p he leave new jersey and deal with the potential fallout from this story? one of the things that chris christie has been saying and doing in new hampshire, he has been attacking marco rubio for missing votes in the stat.
if new jersey gets a foot of snow plus and chris christie is up there itso we'll is what chris christie doo sides in the next 24 to 48 hours. >> still, he has not announced anything, right? >> no. the events are still scheduled. hard to see in keeping them but other o new hampshire, he's made that his make-or-break state. >> that's a good point. >> thank you very much. good seeing you all this morning. from the cold m zero again on a conservative base. this is a new poll opening his widest lead to day in new hampshire. our political team, msnbc's peter alexander along with casey hunt and steve kornacki.
>> good morning, jose. with their friendship giving way of a significant -- you have drm still on the other side. >> reporter: donald trump weighing in on his number one target. >> we're seeing the washington establishment abalancedoning mub yof and upifying behind donald trump. mr. trump's pitch is he's deal maker. >> sarah palin stumping for
trump go many her oldest son was april rsed in alaska monday for domestic violence against his girl friend. >> but my son like many others, they come back bitten, they come back bitten from the attack. >>cruz securing his own reality tv star power with an endorsement from "duck dynasty". >> whe they put a duck and put him if a pot and make those establishments candidates have struggled to find that opening. they have outspent trump and cruz 14-1 on the airwaves right now. and now joining this debate is
j.f.k.'s grandson. he's diving in. a in ittho that ted cruz is taking up my grandfather as mantle, absurd. >> steechl, let's talk about the strategy which p bip cruz to paint trump a member of one is how effective will it be in iowa. the imp immediate impair by tore fwrorp there is a large pea party, ivan jel ka, grass roots, anty establishment whatever you want to call it faction in iowa that cruz has really tapped into and trump has also tapped into as well.
there's the least the potential in the way phrase but the bigger problem for cruz is whuch get outside of iowa. iowa is the only state right now where donald trump is not clearly had guch right over to new hampshire, go do so one of the things powerle trump in those states is he has within the republican party a broader base, a broader coalition that he's put than ted cruz. ted cruz has been aiming his message squarely, solely, simply. donald trump has also tapped into republicans who describe them services as moderate, who describe them services as liberal, as nonreligious. donald trump has build a pardoner coalition so it's hard to to hurt him. it's harder to hurt him with that label when he's built a
rower collision to beginwhich is shore up iowa. if you're ted cruz and you don't win iowa at this point, ilt pretty much over for you. >> casey, there's a new poll out of new hampshire where cruz is first and second. what do you make cruz's serge there. >> it can be a place for them if you combine the numbers from people pliek jeb bush, like chris harper mercer, like john jop, you come out at a highers will flo o does the aim p state have a history of also supporting some conservatives? that was a place that backed pat buchanan. there he is, aconservative we've
seen it in a fight for control offer the state party. so there is an element of the republican party that certainly it would not be out of character for them to back ted cruz. at the end of the day, though, there's likely more people on the more establishment side. it's just a question of whether or not they're going to unite or be splint terd among the rest of the field. >> let's talk about that new hampshire establishment group. how important is it for someone like bujeb bush to come in relatively strong and if he doesn't, it doesn't seem like he has a lot of place to plant flag in the future. >> if you're not going to win one of those first two states, you got do something prit oo
impressive. there's a big difference if you're like jeb bush or marco rubio and you're playing towards second in new hampshire. if it's donald trump, and you're in the mid teens, as you seep, fwrrks are if u grrks tw and i think back to john huntsman four years ago meech came in sort of a close third i guess coup say. he was near 16, 17%. huntsman said i got my ticket to ride, i'm going to south caroli carolina. i know all these historical rules are made to be broken, especially in the year of donald
trump but history says you have got to put a win on the board in one of those first two votes. you lose the media's attention, you lose the party's interest and the confident of your fen o and, steve, to think of the boat load of money that candidates and their sooup packs have been putting into places like new hampshire and the go who has youutthe least is way ahead. it's an amazing time, you are know? >> it's trump butch it crew. of the "s" word coming up a lot recently. socialism. is this exactly the kind of fight bern oo sanders right now? >> there's a little bit of a
list opinion it's while hillary clinton herself, her campaign, has not yet been using the word socialism, it's clear that message has been set out to many of her surrogates. i pent some time yesterday with senator mccass request that republicans might, if. >> do you think they would use a hammer and cicyl pe. that's what they do. someone said the republican attack a machines has chain saws for and. the point i have tried to make is bernie has not those chain saws. >> mccaskell also talk to me a
le about fwrovlgs warning that bernie sanders wouldn't be ail to win thos as a self-declared socialist mope say, this is something that risk alienating some of bernie sanders' supporters and pits had your against the liberal base of her party for some days. i think it shows you are you concerned about him. the other thing, we saw a statement from the sanders come pain, stating that he voted against the war in iraq. that ish resurfacing in this democratic primary. bernie sanders also out with a new ad feet why aring simon and gahrunkel. >> thank you voch e very much.
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e-mails? >> reporter: good morning, jose. these are the e-mails the governor promised to realso a in his state of the state. they're general rahal ply favorable to him and not so favorable to hmm of his staff. aand in another one here p he rerefers to the protesters here as an anty everything crowd. so the governor ends up looking quite good p good. there are only about seven e-mails about him directly. asked for daily reports. it seemed like it was going. >> and at the same time he's dealing with what sort of pile-on from president obama. obama weighed in with a more
emogsal pon norkts just a political tone. he said if i were a mr. speaker we talked to ploom's remarks. take a listen to what she said. >> every time i got a tram po i no, it's not my fault but this nfrm and that's what bothers me the most. >> what would it take for you to come back to flint and make it your home again? >> at this point i don't know. i really don't know. >> jose, you hear there $28 million, lots of funding and aids coming to this town. >>those 1 p 100-plus kids were lead poisoning how do you fix that? it's just a tragedy.
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>>. >> a bombshell report out this morning points the finger at russian president vladimir putin in the death of a spy. bill, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, jose. vladimir putin as we know was a former spy and he's a money with a grudge. that's according to a british judge today who accused him of probably approving the murder of
another former russian spy, a defederal courtor here in london. it's a report and an allegation is that threaten to rehis o, alex solve his own murder. he told british police he had been spoiled by two hugssaccused the russian state of who aring the hit angd nouchltit was probably approvedalso by president putin. >> he was a former russian spy with supposive ool gagss.
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free. >> russia has called this report political and totally roo jbd its conclusions. the british government says this is stage monday sterd urban and keep p deeply establish gr the murder case almost certainlyly end here with no one ever likely to face trial for linkio' fwrork to put in people as etea, can you? it's not an easy to get thing. >> not hat all. and there's plenty of evidence that these didn't quite know what they were dealing with. 97% of the world's blownium kams from one nuclear reactor in russia. so there is a clear link between the actor and them, one of them
poured the lieu tonium down the sake. >> had described it. his coffin was ethe postmortem in his death been so the emost vord and it remaps the only recorded case of blownium murder in the world mope say. new developments on war streak. here as a look at the dow in the first 6 pintthis are for this is -- the central bank is basically telling the world it's
still kmilted to policies that will help stabilize markets in europe. let's look at this as con at the time for the early morning action. we still have a stock market here on the home front in the u.s. that's had the o worst start to a year. those losses have raised about 2 trillion off the values of s&p 500 large cap companies in the u.s. oil continues to slide long of the calf drap and they've been indicating a slowdown in growth. that's been bearing negative. some traders are wondering if we've soon enough down side market action to set ourselves up for a turn around or is this just the begin, europe is
holding on it sm gains for now but it's about whether or not, jose, that advance lates in a bill -- down about 10%% so far this year. it's going to be a big deal to see whether there's any kind of accountability in today's trade. >> talk to me about the price of oil. how bad is it dropping? is it open today? >> it still ofrm it has a ripple effect through the economy but is it cutting back on domestic p demand from industrial temperatures, the people who make pipes for them, the people who drill for oil. all of these in may be effective because that makes the economics of getting oil out of the ground a little more attack tiff.
we're playing le pum are that's the reason why stability and oil and in chan are two of the linchpins some traders say to bringing back some kind of stability at least to what's happening with the world markets, jose. >> i was reading this morning and i don't know if it's true but the oil inside it costs less than the barrel costs. >> yes. the steel barrel itself now costs more than the oil that goes inside it. it's an ironic list. >> dom thank you pap little bit of snow going on in the nation' cap for a taste of what's coming this weekend, bail karins joins
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we're just a couple hours away from the full impact of a massive winter it storm. heavy snow is expected for about 150 states in the d.c. area. the weather channel's jim cantore has more zichts been 1,125 days of the last blizzard warning. very high confidence and a very crippling storm. we'll have a severe side with tornadoes for parts of the sou. potentially ice storm for charlotte, north carolina. what does that mean for the championship game if we have a-inch or more of ice? we have a crippling snowstorm in
what could be a major coastal flooding event with tropical storm force winds and huge tides from the outer banks up into southern new england. so a far reaching storm which is just getting under way now. from washington, d.c. we will be in the blizzard warnings certainly by this time tomorrow and we will have impacts starting after noontime on friday. the evening rush tomorrow night could be just as bad as it was with a 0.7 inch last night. places like dfrmg.c., expect tot down. back to you. >> bill karins, show us what's happening. >> i want to get through the time looi of t timeline of the story. we very about 70 million people affected by the storm. some people under the warnings, some under the watches.
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power apo power lines and tree branches and ice does. it's starting to sneak up through baltimore. 3 a.m. said is a bad time to be anywhere near the roads. by noon saturday the storm is really maturinmaturing, getting strong on the coast. hef oo snow from philadelphia to baltimore, to d.c. the northern-most edge will be around new york city. i put the winds on here and you can see them just howling here. it will be blowing and drifting all over the place. it really won't be fun throughout much of that region. this is what we're expecting. the purpose certainly a foot, a huge area.
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preparations are under way right now as the east coast braces for what's shaping up to be a crippling and possibly historic winter storm. good morning, i'm jose diaz-balart, and we are expecting to hear from the mayor of washington, d.c., soon about the storm's potential impact to the nation's capital. d.c. could be one of the hardest-hit areas with more than two feet of snow in the forecast. the nation's capital got its first round of snow and ice last night, leading to traffic jams and some accidents and causing delays for president obama as his motorcade slid on the icy roads on the way from joint base andrews to the white house. 80 million people are in the storm's path. and many are already preparing. >> bought my milk and bread. i wanted to get salt, but they're all out. >> everyone's going crazy about it. >> what are some of the items you want to get? >> fruit, toilet paper, got some chips for my kids.
>> we've got this story surrounded with our team of reporters and meteorologist bill karins. luke russert and dylan dreyer, steve kornacki and cal perry. first to meteorologist bill karins. bill, where do things stand now? >> now they're starting to blossom. they're getting bigger. we're getting more rain, more thunderstorms, even snow around kansas city. one area in nebraska got surprised last night, eight inches of snow. they weren't expecting that much. these will eventually combine and become our nor'easter. the southern one will bring us our severe weather later on today. and this is the one that's going to be our greatest concern. let's go in here first off and show you the enhanced risk. we think there could be isolated tornadoes this afternoon into this evening. from baton rouge to new orleans, jackson, also to the mobile area. this is the area we're going to be watching this evening. that's the first real big threat, possibly lightning threat with the storm. now let's talk about the storm with the storm because this is where it has the potential to be historic, especially this pink and brighter pink from the
mountains through maryland near d.c. that's where we could get the two feet of snow. some could wind up with close to 30 inches. from new york city to charlotte, all the way back to memphis and little rock that's the scope and the grip of this storm. and when you see a snowfall of five inches expected in memphis, that's a huge deal in the south. and they don't have plows to prepare for that. that's going to take a couple days to clean up from. back up through much of kentucky, six to ten. 10 to 11 in kentucky is a big deal. what happens in charlotte, raleigh, upstate of south carolina. one scenario has mostly sleet and freezing rain, a really bad ice storm. we just tweaked our numbers and given you more snow, a little less ice. you want less ice. that means a less chance of you losing power. this is going to be the difficult forecast zone. almost impossible to travel in this region come tomorrow. once you get north to winston-salem, greensboro, all snow. up into areas of virginia. the jackpot areas do appear to be from the shenandoah valley
back to washington, d.c. someone in here has the chance of getting the two feet of snow. and we're still holding at this point with the 20 to 24-inch total even in our nation's capital. that would put it towards the top of the charts. d.c.'s biggest snowfall ever back in 1922 was 28 inches. so this has a chance to be right in between here. possibly one, possibly two, maybe even three. that's how significant it is. and the biggest snowfall ever recorded within the city limits is possible since, you know, 94 years ago. and finally, to the northern edge of the storm, new york city is really the northern edge of significant snows and even that's a question mark right now. once you get north of new york, hardly anything. philadelphia still looking for a foot. and the problems on the coast will be from the waves and the wind. and all the other things that come with a big coast after nor'easter. jose, to get a blizzard, and we'll find this out on saturday, we do need to meet these criteria. we can't call it a blizzard yet, but i think over the weekend, we definitely will. >> bill, you're saying that new york is iffy. what does that exactly mean? >> that means a low-confidence
forecast. we're going to have bands of very heavy snow that make their way up from the south towards new york city. where they stop will be the determining factor of who gets what. some areas, 20 miles, 30 miles south of new york city could easily pick up a foot to two feet. 20 miles north don't even see a single snowflake. new york city is really on that tight line. it's still 48 hours before even the first flakes fall in new york. there's plenty of time to tweak that forecast. that's why new york city is under a blizzard watch just in case it shifts further north. they don't want people surprised if the big snows happen in the big apple. >> bill, thank you very much. let's get more now on what is going to be a very difficult couple of days for washington, d.c. nbc meteorologist dylan dryer is in arlington, virginia. dylan, hi. >> reporter: good morning, jose. you know, it's been 94 years since washington, d.c., has had a two-foot snowstorm. but here at the salt depot, they say they're ready for it. this is what 22,000 tons of salt looks like. they also have dozens of new trucks, several more on standby.
so you'd think going into this weekend's potentially historic blizzard, we'd be ready for it here, right? well, we have .7 inches of snow last night here in washington, d.c., and it shut things down. cars were slip sliding off the road. there were hundreds of accidents reported in virginia. there were several spinouts, still cars stuck on the road this morning from last night's commute. even the president's motorcade was slipping and sliding along with everyone else. but we do have several school districts closed in this area today as the roads are still very icy and very slippery this morning. folks, though, are already preparing for this weekend's storm. the shelves of some of the big stores are already sold out of water and kitty litter and bread and anything else you can to prepare for this storm. at the airports, though, they are giving passengers the chance to change their tickets now, waiving those fees in case they want to get out of town early before this storm hits. timing, it looks like it's going to get here friday afternoon. the heaviest of the snow overnight friday and throughout
the entire day on saturday. up to two feet of snow is certainly possible. so that would make this an historic blizzard. but hopefully people just stay home since it's a good thing that this storm, the timing of it, is hitting over the weekend. jose? >> dylan dryer, thank you very much. and we're about to hear from the mayor of washington, d.c., with an update on the storm preps for that city which seems like it could get hit hardest by the snow. our luke russert is there now. luke, good morning. >> reporter: good morning there, jose. right about now, the mayor of d.c. as well as other local officials are going to give a press conference about the city's preparedness for the incoming blizzard. and they're going to have some explaining to do because last night, a half an inch fell here, and as dylan dryer mentioned, it was a total disaster. president obama's motorcade could not get from andrews air force base back to the white house without slipping and sliding. traffic all over the roads. some horrific stories of people being in six, seven hours of traffic, trying to get home. this region affectionately known
as the dmv, the district of maryland and virginia, lived here all my life, we do not do snow well. it's a consistent failure for us. however, it's gotten better over the years. today they expect that these trucks will be on the ground. they're going to get the salt out there. they're going to try and get out ahead of this storm. thankfully the fact that it's hitting saturday means not as many folks on the road. that really is divine intervention if you know washington. and we'll see what occurs. but i've got to tell you this, it's going to be tough sledding, no pun intended, because if this is an historic snowfall, i remember 20 years ago, blizzard of '96, it was so bad, our mayor then, mayor berry, said god brought us the snow, and god can take it away, saying it will melt because of the sun. we've gotten better since then, but just sort of a mindset of where we are here, it's not the easiest place for a blizzard to hit. >> nbc's luke russert, thank you very much. the big storm is expected this weekend, but people already
being affected. let's go to msnbc's cal perry. cal, good morning. what are you seeing this morning? >> so a lot of talk on social media last night. you heard luke talking about people stuck on the roads until 2:00 in the morning. take a look at the map. this was the map that was circulating the most online. everything is red less than an inch of snow. most of the kids in and around d.c., and keep in mind the majority actually lives in the suburbs, northern virginia and maryland. most of those kids are home today. people just didn't want those buses out on the roads. take a look here at some of the video that came in from last night. nobody was able to get anywhere, as i said. and we're talking, again, and luke has mentioned this, about a city that is not really equipped to handle this. it's also a budgetary issue. they didn't want to roll the salt out last night because they wanted to save it for this weekend. a lot of people have already prepared. you mentioned this at the top of the show. the shelves are empty and a lot of arlington, fairfax, we're talking about bethesda, rockville, the suburbs. i know the d.c. mayor was under
incredible pressure last night on twitter from a lot of reporters as well, jose. a lot of our nbc colleagues in d.c. had a really tough time getting home. so it will be interesting to see how it plays out this weekend. >> cal perry, thanks so much. the number of flight delays and cancellations will no doubt start climbing soon because of the storm. and i want to talk about that with chief legal correspondent ari melber. ari, good to see you. >> nice to see you. look, jose, as you mentioned, flights get canceled, people get frustrated and sometimes say wait, i don't agree to this. do i have any recourse? the short answer is usually no. here's an example from delta. they explained basically delta shall have no liability if the flight cancellation diversion or delay was due to force majour. all they mean by that is weather or acts of god. you heard luke say god brings the snow and takes it away. well, as long as the problem is mother nature or god, you don't have a lot of recourse if your
flight is canceled, jose. >> then there's the question of in the past we've seen issues of, for example, planes being left on the tarmac for hours and hours and hours because there's nowhere for them to go. these are issues that airlines may have to be dealing with in the next couple of days. so i guess just kind of repositioning their planes, et cetera. >> right. and those issues are a little different. when we use that term about acts of god, an act of inefficiency by an airline might be a little different. and there have been moves on the regulatory front to try to limit that if you're keeping people stranded in the plane for no good reason, that's different than weather. >> forced majeur, is that what you said? >> yeah. >> i was not aware that you are tri lingual. >> just barely. a little latin in the law. >> thank you. good to see you. turning to politics, steve kornacki is here with us. steve, one of the areas that could get hit and pretty hard is new jersey. chris christie, the governor there, he hasn't been there a lot recently. what's he going to do? >> talk about an interesting
potential dilemma here. christie may be torn between two different imperatives here. on the one hand, he has been basically camped out in new hampshire, the primary there now less than three weeks away. he has staked his entire future as a presidential candidate on a strong showing, probably a win in new hampshire. and he is up there now. we see he has events scheduled for this friday and for this saturday. at the same time, though, he's made his name nationally in part by how he handled weather emergencies and natural disasters. talking about, for instance, hurricane sandy in 2012, irene in 2011. that's when he famously told people get the hell off the beach. so he has events, as we say, scheduled in new hampshire right now for friday and saturday at the same time, though, looks like about a foot of snow, maybe a little bit more for parts of new jersey. they are expected to deal with there. and i think we have a statement here, actually. we reached out to the christie campaign to see if he had pans to get off the campaign trail and come back to new jersey. i'm just being handed this right now. his campaign is telling us the schedule remains the same, but
we will continue to monitor the storm. we one update everyone if the schedule changes. chris christie new jersey looking at a forecast of a foot of snow, maybe a little biltmore. right now planning to be in new hampshire for events on friday and saturday, jose. >> interesting. and the presidential race is, of course, part of what is consuming a lot of talk today. candidates there are keeping their schedules in iowa and new hampshire. and as steve was telling us. but donald trump is heading west to las vegas after campaigning with sarah palin on wednesday. he again tried to chip away at any momentum ted cruz might be heading into the iowa caucuses with. >> they got low-interest loans. got low-interest loans. they're low interest. and now he's going to go after goldman sachs. it doesn't work that way. goldman sachs owns him. remember that, folks. they own him. and what he did was wrong. because he didn't want you to know that he's dealing with
banks, and he said, with being a canadian citizen, he said, oh, i didn't know that. how did he not know that? then he said, with the loans, oh. i didn't know that. smart guy. he doesn't know that? yeah. that's worse than hillary when you think about it. >> well, the fight also intensifying on the democratic side. allies of hillary clinton are piling on to bernie sanders and using the "s" word, socialist. in their attacks. clinton herself is hitting back at the suggestion by sanders that she's part of the d.c. establishment. >> i was somewhat confused, when senator sanders said, well, you know, planned parenthood and human rights campaign, they're part of the establishment, and that's why they're supporting, you know, hillary clinton, because it's all part of the establishment. i thought, boy, i wish it were. >> we bring in msnbc political correspondent kasie hunt and steve kornacki. let's talk about this
back-and-forth between the clinton and sanders campaigns, pushing this socialist argument a winning strategy for clinton? >> clearly the clinton campaign, jose, is coming under more pressure than they ever have before. and while the clinton campaign itself or hillary clinton herself have not used the word "socialism" as of yet, it's clearly something that they've told many of their surrogates to start raising the flag about. i talked to senator claire mccaskill about it yesterday. do you think a socialist, a self-declared socialist, could win the presidency of the united states? >> i can only speak for my state. i think it would be absolutely possible for a self-declared socialist to win in a state like missouri. and you've got to win states like missouri if you're going to win the presidency, states like indiana, states like ohio, states like pennsylvania. it is very hard, i think, for most americans to see how socialism would cure the problems that we are facing right now. there's a lot of work we have to do, but we need to bring the
country together, not nominate people that sit on the opposite ends of the spectrum because people are angry and they want to blow everything up. >> reporter: some pretty tough cords there from mccaskill who, of course, is a clinton surrogate and has been one of her most agregressive supporter out on the campaign trail this time around after, of course, supporting barack obama back in 2008. but that's a pretty, you know, intense argument that they've just started to make. this idea that bernie sanders wouldn't be able to win swing states in a general election, that he would alienate voters that democrats have tried hard to make sure are part of their coalition. i think the question at this point is whether it's going to be too little, too late. and i think, you know, republicans have been learning over the course of the last several months that being part of the political establishment seems to be extraordinarily toxic this year. and i think you heard a little bit of the acknowledgment of that as clinton's campaign has now gone after sanders for including groups like planned parenthood, human rights campaign and others in the so-called establishment.
they, of course, have wanted to focus on that over the course of the past couple of days. so i think it will be interesting to see if this is a line of attack that she starts to put out herself or if they still think that it's too risky and that they could alienate some sanders supporters that they might need or sway undecided voters the wrong way in going after him this way, jose. >> yeah, because there is a very real possibility that depending on how far they go after or how hard they go after sanders, that a lot of the folks that support sanders the enthusiasm may be mitigated somewhat if it ends up that he doesn't get the nomination and clinton does get the nomination. >> reporter: i think, you know, they have to be pretty careful here because it's clear that what's animating liberals and the base of the republican party right now is anger at the powers that be. and in many cases, that is personified in wall street, for example, that's become bernie sanders, of course, core issue, something he's focused on his whole campaign. so the question is, you know, if she pushes too far on this and she ultimately turns off those
voters, they're not excited about getting out votes against her, that could potentially be an issue. now, that said, the republican nominee is going to matter under those circumstances as well because i think there will be quite a few democrats who would be supportive of bernie sanders who would be pretty motivated to go and vote against, say, donald trump or ted cruz. >> and steve, i understand there's a new poll out of iowa? >> yeah, that's right, jose. just in the last few minutes, the backdrop, look, donald trump, ted cruz. this has really become a two-man race in iowa. you can see the new numbers now. this is the loras college poll. donald trump pulling ahead there of ted cruz. 26%-25%. rubio is pretty far back. this is pretty significant. big picture because if you think back a couple weeks, maybe a month ago, it looked like ted cruz not only had caught donald trump, but that ted cruz was on the verge of blowing this thing wide open in iowa. this poll, though, and it's not the only one to suggest this
recently, shows donald trump has tightened that gap, has closed that gap. in this case, has even overtaken him by a point, leaving out that possibility that donald trump could still win the iowa caucuses. and jose, i mean, you think of the domino theories in these elections. if donald trump wins iowa, he is already ahead in new hampshire, he is already ahead in south carolina, and he is already ahead in every one of those s.e.c. primary states that's going to vote a few weeks after that. so if donald trump could get that first domino to fall in iowa, that would obviously be huge for him. >> yeah, and i'm wondering, steve, if this poll -- when you look at the numbers there, it looks virtually tied when you look at the margin of error, but the momentum seems to be trump. i'm wondering if this was post-palin. >> no, it's mostly before. i think this was conducted over about a five-day period. you do get the impact of that last republican debate in there, though. so that dust-up over new york values. a lot of people said ted cruz was aiming that at iowa voters. you get a little bit of that
effect. but yes, we haven't yet mesh esched the effect of the palin endorsement. we haven't measured the impact of conservative talk radio really starting to rally around ted cruz. we've been seeing that a lot in the last couple days. we'll see if that has an effect, too. >> that's the radio side. then there are folks like bob dole that are going against cruz. is this a problem, for example, bob dole, is this a problem for cruz or maybe, you know, an opportunity? >> i think it's a little bit of both for cruz in that he defines himself as sort of the ultimate anti-establishment politician. he wants to be the outsider, the insiders are afraid of. and so if you have people who are seen as insiders rallying around trump, that could help cruz with his core base out there in iowa where it's absolutely must-win for him. bigger picture, though, if the establishment of the republican party were to basically rally around donald trump and say, look, we've got to choose between trump and cruz, that could be very problematic for
cruz later on. it's also maybe even a bigger issue right now for those other candidates who are trying to occupy that so-called establishment spot here, whether it's rubio or bush or christie or kasich. they're the ones who are supposed to be having, you know, bob dole and all those other types say great things about them. so if those people are now saying -- starting to move towards donald trump, that also indicates not much confidence on their part in those so-called establishment candidates. >> steve kornacki and kasie hunt, thank you both for being with me. appreciate your time. >> sure. >> thanks, jose. so much ahead on this busy thursday. we'll, of course, keep you updated on the latest winter storm track and blizzard watches affecting the east coast. plus, michigan governor rick snid snyder trying to explain how an entire city in his state was left without clean water.
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there's a new report this morning that a former navy s.e.a.l. who played a central role in the raid to take out osama bin laden is now the focus of a growing federal investigation. nbc's stephanie gosk joins me with the latest. stephanie, good morning. >> good morning, jose. in his best-selling book, former navy s.e.a.l. matthew bissonnette claims he not only shot osama bin laden, he also took pictures of the body. now a new report alleges bissonnette kept one of those photos for himself. >> reporter: not long after the infamous raid that left osama bin laden dead, a top pentagon official ordered all photos of the body destroyed or turned over amid concerns the images might be used as anti-u.s. propaganda.
but now a new report says there may have been at least one photo still out there until recently. according to an article in "the intercept" that cites two unnamed sources close to the probe, former s.e.a.l. team 6 member matthew bissonnette kept an image of bin laden's remains. >> i think it's pretty clear that the idea that there are no photos of bin laden running around outside of government control is a silly notion. >> reporter: following the release of his best-selling account of the raid, "no easy day," and this interview on "60 minutes" while in disguise, bissonnette was under investigation for revealing classified information. investigators suspected he may still have a photo on his hard drive and struck a deal guaranteeing they wouldn't arrest bissonnette if he voluntarily turned it over according to the article. >> what we don't know if whether this photo was a close-up of his head or his body. we do know it was unauthorized. >> reporter: now, that hard drive may have stirred up even
more trouble for the former s.e.a.l. "the intercept" reports that information on the drive triggered a new separate investigation alleging bissonnette may have been using his position as a navy s.e.a.l. to illegally steer business to his privately owned companies. >> although those businesses, in theory, were okayed by the command, it's not clear that the command had a full understanding of what he was doing in his side businesses. >> nbc news did not independently verify the details of this report, but bissonnette's lawyer did tell nbc that the investigation into the alleged release of classified information ended last august. he would not comment on either this new investigation or the existence of that photo, jose. >> stephanie gosk, thank you very much. >> you're welcome. time for more headlines this morning. a new bombshell report reveals it is likely that russian president vladimir putin personally approved the murder of ex-spy alexander litvinenko.
back in 2006, the former kgb agent who claimed to know dark kremlin secrets had tea with two men at a hotel. two weeks later he died of radioactive poisoning after claiming putin had ordered his killing. the kremlin has always denied involvement in this. look at this scene yesterday in tennessee outside nashville. firefighters rescued a 19-year-old woman from an icy river using a swift water raft. police say the teen lost control of her car on the icy roadway and ended up in the water. she was able to escape through the sunroof, just sat on her car until she was rescued. no one was injured in the accident. the buffalo bills are making nfl history, hiring the league's first full-time female assistant coach. katherine smith named head of special teams quality control. she was previously the administrative assistant for bills' coach rex ryan, working with him for the last seven years with both the bills and the jets. coming up, we're tracking a
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now back to that massive winter storm threatening the east coast. it's forecast to bring heavy snow to at least 15 states, and washington, d.c., got its first taste of what's to come last night with snowy and icy conditions leading to multiple traffic accidents. some drivers stuck in traffic for hours. let's go live now to nbc meteorologist bill karins who's tracking the storm for us. bill, it's looking like it's getting more and more concentrated, right? >> yeah, it's getting closer. the storm is getting a little stronger. we're starting to talk about the
ice. let me show you this map we were using one of our latest computer models. this is forecasting freezing rain. snow is very difficult to forecast. forecasting the difference between freezing rain versus sleet is very, very difficult. so we're just going to take and look at this in general. the area of greatest concern for freezing rain, it would be northern georgia, upstate of south carolina, the greenville area, to charlotte back to greensboro, raleigh, fayetteville. that's the area of concern. if you look at our chart down here on the bottom, when you get to the greenish-type color, that's up to a half inch. general rule is once you get to about a quarter inch, you get minor branches breaking, sagging of the trees and power lines. you get up to a half inch, that's when things start falling. that's when the power lines come down and trees start coming down. we're thinking this purple coloring from charlotte to the upstate of south carolina through northern georgia, that has the possibility of occurring. so that's of great concern for people that live in those areas. the threat of losing power in the winter is not fun, having no heat in your homes. let me take you through the time line of the storm. this is where we get to the peak of the storm starting from 6:00
p.m. friday to about 6:00 a.m. sunday. that's kind of the window in most of the destruction will be done and the worst of the effects. possibility of severe weather in the red. possibility of snow from memphis to louisville starting in d.c. through about the friday evening period. so everyone in the d.c. area, you want to be home probably by about 2:00 or 3:00 in the afternoon just to avoid any possibility of getting caught in any of the snow. by 3:00 a.m. saturday, this is when the blizzard conditions will develop here in the mountains of virginia back up towards d.c. notice all the ice. this is what we were just showing you on that graphic, the pink coloring in here. that will be what you'll wake up to saturday morning. hopefully you'll wake up with power still on in those areas. by the time we get to noon saturday, the snow finally makes it up to about philadelphia. maybe a little bit of snow trying to creep up towards new york city. but not a lot. and then as far as the snow goes, it will actually go from that freezing rain/sleet mess, maybe losing power in charlotte, raleigh, and you're going to end as snow. then we're going to add even more weight to the branches and power lines. so power outages could continue. and then by 11:00 p.m. saturday,
this is when the winds are really cranking, this is when it's a full-blown nor'easter. that's when when we'll see the snow starting to end but temperatures will drop. it will not be a fun shovel on sunday morning. here's that snowfall map, jose. again, we're pinpointing the purple area, a foot of snow, west virginia, virginia, northern half of north carolina all the way to philadelphia. the mid-atlantic's the jackpot. we have a chance of tornadoes tonight, the ice storm in the carolinas and maybe even half a foot of snow in memphis, of all places. it's not just d.c. d.c. is going to be the headline. but there's a lot of other people that will be suffering also. >> absolutely. bill, thank you very much. as a matter of fact, speaking of d.c., let's go to the dnc.c. ju giving a news conference. state of emergency in d.c. announced. >> let me say a few things about deployment of our snow resources. we are pretreating roads today, and we will stand up our operations at 6:00 a.m. tomorrow morning where we will have
resources on hand for a full deployment of our snow resources. that includes 106 heavy plows, 37 contract plows, light plows, over 70, 145 dump trucks, 30 loaders and 20 bobcats. our salt have more than 39 tons of salt, and we are coordinating with the national guard and fema for any additional resources that we need. let me say a little bit now about the district's operations. i mentioned to you yesterday that our schools were already scheduled to dismiss at 12:15 because of a planning period. we have decided to be extremely cautious in that we -- if the snow start time changes, we don't want our kids and our buses to be on the roads. so d.c. public schools will be
closed tomorrow. and it will be our recommendation to d.c. public charter schools to also close. the district government will open tomorrow, but we also want our employees who are nonessential personnel to be on their way home before the snow begins. and also and very importantly, we don't want our buses and parents or employees on the roads when our trucks are pretreating. so the district government will close at noon tomorrow except for essential personnel. we are, for some other important functions -- >> -- the city is taking. the mayor of washington, d.c., announcing some of the measures that the city is going to be taking to deal with this superstorm that's expected over the weekend. the mayor also, by the way, apologized to the people of washington, d.c., for last night's problems on the roads where there were accidents and traffic was tied up for hours.
she did apologize for not having pretreated the roads, not really done anything before this snowfall happened last night. and so what we saw last night in the washington, d.c., area was because, among other things, there was no pretreatment of the roads. the mayor apologized for that, but now going forward, she says that she is prepared, and her city is prepared. turning now back to politics, if ted cruz winds up the gop nominee, he'll have to battle wounds that, well, a tough primary fight caused. on wednesday, the senator dealt with another day of heavy attacks. first it was the party's 1996 nominee, bob dole, telling "the new york times" the gop would face, quote, cataclysmic and wholesale losses with cruz at the top of the ticket. dole has already endorsed jeb bush. meanwhile, the national front-runner, donald trump, continues to hammer away at his
closest rival, this time over bank loans and controversy over cruz's citizenship. >> and he said, with being a canadian citizen, he said, oh, i didn't know that. how did he not know that? then he said, with the loans, oh, i didn't foe that. smart guy. he doesn't know that? yeah. that's worse than hillary when you think about it. >> nbc's hallie jackson is in new hampshire where cruz is in the middle of a five-day bus tour. great seeing you. what's the reaction to all this? >> reporter: thanks, jose. you know, we're just checking out some notes here because we have a lot of new developments. let's talk the reaction to all of this and how ted cruz is framing his attacks against donald trump. let's start off by playing you a little bit of what he said last night about how he sees this race playing out, and then we're going to talk about the fallout. listen. >> right now the washington establishment is abandoning marco rubio. they've made the assessment that marco can't win this race. and the washington establishment is rushing over to support
donald trump. and mr. trump's pitch to the washington establishment is he's a deal maker. he'll go and cut a deal with chuck schumer and harry reid and nancy pelosi and those deals will do exactly what john boehner and mitch mcconnell have done. >> reporter: so two things at play here. first you've got the cruz attack line now against donald trump that donald trump is part of the establishment. you heard him talk about john boehner, mitch mcconnell, trying to put donald trump in that camp. there's a couple of risks involved in this. one is that people may not buy it. that donald trump is an establishment kind of candidate. however, i'll tell that you ted cruz railing against the establishment as worked out for him at least over the last few days with the senator saying he's raised some $700,000 ever since governor branstad of iowa came out and said that cruz -- caucusgoers in iowa choosing cruz would be a big mistake. what he's doing to marco rubio or at least trying to do there
in sort of one fell swoop, painting rubio as the establishment candidate and then right after that, saying that the establishment has, in fact, abandoned marco rubio. just this morning, jose, we heard from marco rubio about this. and i want to tell you what he said. he asked, then why is ted cruz spending so much money attacking me? rubio pointing out that he says every time he's ever run for office as a senator back in florida or now as president, he says he's always had to take on the republican establishment, and he's doing it again now. the senator is also pointing out something interesting which is that he has faced pretty heavy incoming fire as far as attack ads over these last few months of his campaign. the campaign, by their calculations, saying it's been close to $23 million in ads coming from the other candidates and their super pacs. so rubio pointing on that this morning as a reason why he's not the establishment. he's saying, hey, i'm coming under pretty heavy fire here. so cruz is mistaken. that's definitely a story line we're going to watch play out today, jose. >> thank you, hallie jackson in new hampshire. it's good to see you.
sarah palin is back in a big way with her trump endorsement, but what's she been doing since she first rose to fame while running for vice president? joe fryer takes a look at her life since the 2008 campaign. good morning. >> reporter: good morning. sarah palin has not run for political office on any level in more than seven years. yet she remains a political force. someone with loyal followers and an ability to fund-raise, but also over the years, no shortage of drama. >> are you ready to make america great again? >> reporter: just as sarah palin makes headlines for endorsing donald trump, a personal problem surfaces in the shadow of her political life. her son, track, an iraq war veteran, allegedly charged with misdemeanors after he was arrested on domestic violence charges. >> my son, like so many others, they come back a bit different. they come back hardened. >> reporter: blending the personal with the political with a career that borders on celebrity.
she eventually signed on as a fox news commentator. >> they look at our president as one who wears mom jeans. >> reporter: she has authored books including her best-selling memoir "going rogue" and started reality shows like "sarah palin's alaska" on tlc. >> ul. about pull. >> reporter: yet she remains a conservative firebrand, funding like-minded candidates through her political action committee and lending her voice to the tea party movement. >> these are the frontlines in the battle for the future of our country! >> reporter: during the health care debate, palin coined the term "death panel" which politifact dubbed "line of the year." >> hello and welcome to a new project. >> reporter: though palin had to pull the plug on her online channel. >> next question. yes, tina. >> no, it's sarah. sarah palin. >> oh, sorry, yes. >> reporter: through it all, she still can't shake her "snl"
doppelganger. >> oh, geez, looks like i went through time and space again. >> reporter: the limelight also follows the former governor's family. in 2014, they attended a party that anchorage police say turned into a brawl, but no one was arrested. >> pushing girls around. ♪ >> reporter: and her daughter, bristol, a finalist on "dancing with the stars," called off her wedding last year, then gave birth to her second child last month. now sarah palin is back in the spotlight. it's unclear exactly how much she is going to stump for trump in the coming days. yesterday she appeared at one rally in oklahoma but not at a rally in iowa. jose? >> joe fryer, thank you very much. it is homecoming day for two americans who were freed as part of that prisoner exchange with iran. let's get the latest from the u.s. military base in landstuhl, germany. that's where keir simmons is. keir, good morning. >> reporter: hey, jose, good
morning. i'm just going to keep my voice down a little bit because one of the doctors here at this medical center, a psychologist, is giving a briefing just over to my left here. she's explaining how the process of people who have been in prison for as long as some of these guys have. it's three stages. and all of it involves what they call decompression where the person has to relearn about the technology advances, about the way relationships have changed and their families and around them in their communities, and all of that process can take place here and can also take place at home. and we are learning now, jose, that two of the three men at least are headed home, we believe. certainly amir hekmati is expected in flint, michigan, his hometown, at 4:00 this afternoon. so he's on his way back. he must be in the air right now. meanwhile, another of the men, his wife, saeed abedini, his wife put out a statement on
facebook. she said he's in very good condition thanks to all your prayers, saeed will be landing on american soil thursday evening. he'll spend a few days with his parents, and then the kids and i will join him on monday. please pray for us as we will be spending weeks or possibly months healing as a family and going through counseling. the third man, jason rezaian, we think, is still here. we've spoken to someone close to him who says they are still just talking to the doctors about when it would make sense for him to head home. but i think, jose, that he will be headed home pretty soon. and i guess there may be a bit of a celebration as these guys get back home. >> understatement. thank you, keir. it's good to see you. up next, a new report raising questions about grand jury deliberations in the fatal police shooting of 12-year-old tamir rice. ari melber will be back with me for the latest on that. hritis l. and you're talking to a rheumatologist about a biologic, this is humira. this is humira helping to relieve my
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prosecutor in the tamir rice shooting case. the website clevescene.com reports the grand jury never voted on charges for the two officers involved in the deadly shooting. according to "the washington post," the prosecutor's office is now responding, saying first he did have the jury vote on whether the shooting was justified, not specific charges. and second, that this is a process he uses for police shootings. however, this is not a pointed issue. the grand jury did not vote as to whether charges should be brought against any officer. rice was shot and killed by police in cleveland two years ago. both officers have always maintained they feared for their lives. tamir appeared to have been playing with a pellet gun. but today the grand jury did not vote yes or no on specific charges. msnbc chief legal correspondent ari melber is here. ari, this is kind of confusing to many people. what exactly does this mean? >> look, it is confusing probably because it is meant to be confusing. indeed this whole news broke of the announcement of no charges
in between christmas and new year's, which to many people was suspicious timing for an investigation that had been going over a year. the question raised by some was this trying to bury it? i want to play, though, from that announcement especially people may have not seen it at the time, here's prosecutor mcginty when he announced it, basically saying that the grand jury declined to charge. let's listen to that. >> the grand jury declined to bring criminal charges against cleveland police officers timothy lawman and frank garnback. that was also my recommendation and that of our office after reviewing the investigation and the law. >> so journalists and lawyers who saw that thought that what he was saying then was that the grand jury voted no on charges. that would be the normal process when you present potential charges to a grand jury and they vote yet or no. in the law, jose, it's called no true bill. this new report that came out yesterday is the first time
there's been an indication that they didn't actually do that. that when prosecutor mcginty said they were declining to bring charges, what he meant was that not that they voted down charges the normal way, but that they made this other sort of judgment that the force was justified. we can put up on the screen the very brief document that now has been released. that's the totality of it. it basically says, you know, the grand jurors have concluded their investigation in the death of tamir rice and declined to issue criminal charges. so jose, this still leaves a lot of questions. >> yeah. >> what was that vote? how did they determine it was justified? did they do that based on specific charges? because here's the big question in these police shootings. and by the way, just because the process was wrong or unusual doesn't mean the outcome was wrong. people can debate whether that was a justified shooting. what we're focusing on here and what is problematic here is before you even get to a potential trial or weighing of those facts, you have this very unusual process where bottom line, the prosecutor told these grand jurors he didn't think charges were justified and then
didn't hold the normal vote on those charges but just had them first reach what you might call a threshold question or a kwirs question, which was was this justified, and he says they said no. >> ari, that -- how unusual is that? >> very. very unusual. i mean, look. in a normal case, you either go without a grand jury at all. you don't need one, right? >> right. >> jose, if you're arrested on the street for doing something wrong, there's no pop-up grand jury, right? what happens is the police says to the prosecutor, we saw it. it's called an information and belief, probable cause, and you're done. the control room's telling me we're out of time, but what is unusual here is you have a prosecutor who "a," didn't make his own decision and stand by it. he could have said no charges, end of story. and "b," when he goes to this grand jury process, he says they're making a decision, but everything we've learned about it suggests he's pushing the decision. i want to be clear. that does not mean the decision is ultimately right or wrong. we don't even have all the evidence on this. it hasn't gone to trial. what it means is prosecutor mcginty, time and time again, tried to create an outcome, and
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