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service but 1900 flights have been canceled today. parts of the new jersey show saw coastal flooding. people in west wildwood said this is worse than they saw with hurricane sandy. we're down in washington, d.c. with luke where they got nearly 20 inches of snow. luke? >> reporter: kate, a historic snowfall and it hit this city, something that d.c. is slowly recovering from. i want to give you an idea just how much snow we got here. you see behind me one of these massive snow piles, one of these massive dumps. the dump trucks are coming by. there is a front loader tractor you see down there, they put the snow in it and they take it to an off site location where the snow is released and they come back again. we are about a block from the white house.
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we are in the heart of downtown d.c. a lot of hotels, a lot of government buildings, a lot of public space. while the main areas are open for all intents and purposes, a lot of it is still shut down. it's not anywhere near 100%, and the expectation is it will take at least throughout the night to get this to a point where it's at least viable for tomorrow. the metro transit and up and running with limited service, same with the bus service. and we're getting reports all across town that a lot of neighborhoods, residential, still have not been plowed. a silver lining, all the power is still on in these places, but what's going to happen tomorrow in some of the neighboring areas of maryland and virginia, reports of government office being closed, schools being closed. we don't know the status of the d.c. schools and the federal government. however, if they continue running through the night, you should be okay, but some of
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those residential areas, you will still have trouble getting your car out because you don't have the advantage of a big tractor like they have down here. >> one lady in bethesda said they've already been told there is no school tomorrow, so some places already cancelling. thank you, luke. >> they're getting out ahead of it, i suppose. take care. >> crews working around the clock to clear snow all around the area. gabe gutierrez is up in jersey city with road complications. what's happening up there? >> reporter: we have been here throughout the morning, and i can say in the last few hours, it's been quite a difference. the temperature has gone up. that means we'll start to see some of these snow piles start to melt, but it could be a problem later on tonight as they refreeze and temperatures drop below freezing. still a lot of progress has been made, as you can see from this live picture right now. we're in front of one world trade center, and things are looking pretty good here in the downtown area. earlier we were on some side
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streets where residential areas were having a difficult time cleaning up, and many of the cars in those areas were still encased in snow. we ran across a group of volunteers called j.c. shovels, and they're about 70 volunteers so far that have helped about 150 seniors dig out of their property and be able to shovel their sidewalks. the program started last fall, and here's what some of the volunteers had to say. >> it's warm to help a senior who needs help. it's usually a senior that owns a home, and also just to improve the walkability of our city. >> it's the first time jersey city is attempting this initiative and i just think it's long overdue. we complain that sidewalks haven't been shoveled, but we don't consider that the person who owns the home isn't able to do it or afford to pay someone
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to do it. >> reporter: and that volunteer service is especially important, they say, because in the last several days there have been several deaths reported in the area of seniors that were outside and were either using their snow blowers or perhaps trying to shovel snow, and unfortunately, they passed away in this blizzard. now, as we take another live look, we can see some of the ice here already starting to melt before our eyes. schools were closed in jersey city today as well as neighboring newark, and officials here say it's going to take quite a while to dig out of all this, kate. >> i see the snow blowers running there, gabe. thanks so much. let's check in in new jersey now over on the shore where communities in the southern part of the state are dealing with the aftermath of severe flooding out there. nbc's rehame is there. i hear the governor's office is giving you a call describing what happened? >> reporter: it's true, because
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there is concern about how this community described what's happening here, that it might be misunderstood as characteristic of the entire state. we want to be clear that this representative of the community was talking about this community when i asked, would you describe the level of damage here? just listen. >> i would say at this point it's catastrophic. we had a lot of damage. as you can see from the barricade behind me, we lost that during the storm which exposed us to a lot of debris wash-up. at the height of the storm, i think we had 30 to 40 evacuations. we lost a humvee. during the storm it was up on the hood and we had to go to a five-ton. for us this is worse than sandy. we had 6 to 8 inches higher this storm than we did sandy. >> reporter: some of that storm water came and destroyed this playground that's here that's supposed to be protected by the bulkhead chris ridings was
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talking about. that bulkhead is now down in the sand. we're going to pan down the entire walkway here, and you'll see the pilings all along, kate. what we want to be clear about is that the representative, the administrator said in a community of about 600 year-round residents, they are of moderate income, and for them to think about repairing the damage here, it could be something like $2 million. that's an early estimate, and that's a lot for the budget of this community of west wildwood. kate? >> rehema ellis out on the shore there. interesting to hear from one town and hear that the governor has a different perspective about the state. he left the campaign trail, rehema, to get back to new jersey. >> he did, he came back before the storm actually hit, and he surveyed a lot of the community. as the governor's office says, they have been in contact with local elected officials all throughout the state. the governor's office says
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they're hearing reports that they're able to manage whatever kind of damage had occurred, and he just wanted to make certain there was no misrepresentation of the understanding of the kind of damage that happened here, that this does not represent, in the governor's eyes, the level of damage statewide. it's just this community, and this community says they were really hard hit. >> all right, rehema ellis, thank you so much. let's talk about travel now. nbc's kelly o'donnell is out at raegan international airport where over 200 flights have been canceled today. kelly, this is rippling all over the country. >> reporter: absolutely, kate. there are flights that they needed the aircraft to get here in order to go to the next stop. that's been an issue. as we've been here through the day, we've seen something change on the flight board. the early mapart of the day you saw a lot of canceled, canceled, canceled, and now you see a lot of delayed, leaving at such and such a time. some of the passengers are here, some say they spent the night in
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a hotel and their plans are pushed. at times there's been very long security lines, but it ebbs and flows. we do have sunshine here, that might help a little, and some of the work that's been done is moving snow off the main runway and allowing taxiing space for aircraft. then this airport, raegan international, has a new toy, a snow melter that cost about a half million dollars that can scoop up the snow. it has a sort of heating element to it and helps to melt the snow to try to help this place recover a little faster. it's the first time they're using it, and what a time to try it out, when there's been nearly a record snowfall and one that's kept a lot of passengers shut in over the last few days. we expect that about 80% of the flights from here are getting out. but again, if you're trying to go to another storm city like new york, that's going to be difficult, and so airlines are still making decisions about tomorrow. we know there are already some cancellations, but you do get the sense, kate, that things are beginning to get back to normal even though people have to put
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up with some issues of lines and some of the hassle of changing tickets, those sorts of things. kate? >> kelly o'donnell out at national airport in washington. i can tell you all about it, kelly, i just got back this morning to new york, and boy, was it tough to get here. thanks. we'll talk about political storms. the iowa caucus just one week away, president obama weighing in on the close race between hillary clinton and bernie sanders.
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just seven days to go until the iowa caucus and the president is giving some of his most extensive opinions on the race to date. in an entry released by plitt o
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politico, the president gave his opinions on both candidates. >> i think bernie came in with the luxury of being a complete longshot and just letting loose. i think hillary came in with the privilege and burden of being perceived as the frontrunner. nbc host and political correspondent george bernanke is here in the room. everyone in the room is being pro clinton than pro sanders? >> there are probably a couple reasons why the president, without saying it, is throwing his weight behind hillary clinton. one of them is barack obama has been with clinton, she's trying to run on a continuation of his record, but really, i think the third and biggest reason is pretty simple. when you look at bernie sanders' message, his message is what we
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need right now is a political revolution. when you're a two-term president, you don't want the answer to the presidency to be a revolution. >> hillary clinton has been in the des moines register, the boston globe. i keep asking does it matter, does it matter, does it matter? >> this might be the election where we realize the newspaper endorsements don't matter as much as we think. she got the des moines register endorsement, the biggest newspaper in iowa, but when she was endorsed last time she finished third. >> not to pick on them or anything. >> and they're not the only newspaper that doesn't necessarily get it right, but the register has yet to pick the eve eventual winner. this is the year that donald
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trump is thumbing his nose at every editorial page everywhere in the country. hasn't hurt him yet, obviously. >> and the globe went to marco rubio, right? >> they did. she's back! tina fey as sarah palin. >> good evening, iowa. i wanted to take a break from my full-time career of writing things on facebook to flag down here and lend my support to the next president of the united states, donald j. trump. buildit houses in town. or becoming the next highly-unlikely dotcom superstar. and us, we'll be right there with you, helping with the questions you need answered to get your brand new business started. we're legalzoom and we've already partnered
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baby, or rock and roller, holy roller pushing a stroller, someone with an abscessed mole ar. >> she's a firecracker. she's a real pistol. she's crazy, isn't she? >> is what the mainstream media is spinning. >> that was not sarah palin, that was not donald trump. tina fey and darrell hammond having some fun on "saturday night live" this past weekend. as for the real donald trump, he was in iowa where he took another personal shot at his opponent ted cruz. >> one of the problems with ted cruz is everybody hates him. he's such a nasty guy. everybody hates him. not one united states senator has endorsed him. not one. >> tonight trump heads to farmington, new hampshire for a rally in the first in the nation primary state, and that's where we find nbc news' john yang.
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let's start with the roiters pol poll. it shows donald trump at 41%, ted cruz at 11%, ben carson with 10, jeb bush with 9 and marco rubio at 7. is the trump campaign so confident that they don't need to go to hiowa this week? >> today new hampshire, tomorrow he does go to iowa for two events, but the day after that, south carolina, back to iowa for a debate, and then back here at the end of the week, the closing weekend before the iowa caucuses, he's back here in new hampshire. this is really -- as you know, donald trump is nothing if not confident, and this past weekend in iowa, he expressed that in a rather colorful way.
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>> my people are so smart, and you know what else they say about my people? the polls. they say i have the most loyal people. did you ever see that? where i could stand in the middle of fifth avenue and shoot somebody and i wouldn't lose any voters, okay? it's like incredible. >> reporter: this is one challenge for the trump campaign is that in iowa, polls are showing that more of his supporters would be first time caucusers, people who have not gone to caucuses before compared to the supporters for the other republican candidates. and going to the caucuses, you know, kate, is not a simple matter. it's not as simple as going and casting a ballot, going into a voting booth. so this is one area where they're going to -- the big challenge is to see whether this confidence is justified, and we'll find that out in just one week. kate? >> can't believe we're down to one week now, john. expecting a big crowd up there in new hampshire tonight? >> reporter: this is a
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relatively small high school gymnasium. for any other candidate would be a big deal, but it's going to be about 650 to 800 people, officials say, can get into this high school gym. they've handed out about 3,000 tickets. >> okay. john yang in new hampshire. john, thanks so much. meanwhile, ted cruz expected to hold an event in manchester, iowa any moment now. part of a day of campaign stops he's making all across iowa. this morning cruz picked up the endorsement of former governor rick perry and radio personality glen beck. the polls show 34% for donald trump, 23% for ted cruz there. the event in manchester is supposed to start pretty soon. i don't know if we have a live shot from manchester yet.
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there we go. ted cruz making his way in. that's the press that precedes him, and there he is. let's listen in for just a moment. >> did you paint this? >> no, this is eagle point park that i was trying to say. thank you, i'll see you inside. >> she went ahead and made all of these for you. >> these are fantastic. >> thank you for coming to delaware county, so this is a keepsa keepsake. he enjoy making them, so enjoy. >> thank you.
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thank you very much. good afternoon. welcome back to the great state of iowa. we're in the final sprint. 172 hours. one week from today the iowa caucuses will decide. there will be millions of dollars of attack ads, a whole lot of noise, a whole lot of smoke and fireworks, but at the end of the day, it's going to come down to the good men and women in this state making the decision, making the judgment who is the principal conservative they trust? it is a wonderful thing that our democratic process doesn't begin in a big state, isn't decided by dueling tv ads. it begins in vfw halls and pizza ranches and people's living rooms. it begins with the men and women of iowa looking us in the eyes and asking us the hard questions. that is one of the wonderful aspects of our democratic system. and from the beginning, our approach has been to build a
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grassroots army, to reassemble the old raegan coalition, to bring together conservatives andand evangelicals and libertarians, african-americans and women and jewish voters and raegan democrats. we're seeing this happen more and more each day. if conservatives continue to unite, we will win. >> sir, you talked about picking the right candidate to be commander in chief. we saw you hugging donald trump. how can you say he's not the right pick? >> i will not engage in personal attacks. donald has changed how he has approached me in that he is now insulting me every day. he can do that. that is his prerogative. i do not intend to respond in kind, and indeed that's exactly the way i've responded to every other candidate in the field. when others engage in attacks
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and snulinsults, i will not res in kind, because i think the people of iowa, the people of new hampshire, the people of this country deserve better. if the issues are of substance and division, that is and should be the meat of politics, the bread and butter of politics. there is a season to those discussions. we are in the season where we're discussing the differences in policy. i'm happy to have a conversation about how donald's and my records differ when it comes to defending life. i have spent decades fighting to defend the right for life. donald's views on abortion, he has been a strong supporter of abortion and partial to abortion. right now as a candidate for president, donald supports tax funding for planned parenthood. i disagree with him. i think we need to spend not one penny of tax money on planned parenthood. on issue after issue after issue, donald and i have different policy issues.
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right now on health care, donald supports bernie sanders style social idea of medicine. he believes we need to expand it to put our governor in charge of our health care and in charge of our doctors. i think that's wrong. i think it's a mistake. if i'm voted president, we're going to repeal every word of obamacare. i think donald is bold, i think he's brash, i think he's energized a lot of people to focus on this election and that's a wonderful thing, but policy distinctions are what we should be talking about and it's what the voters deserve. >> senator rubio slammed you a few minutes ago for being the lead lawyer in a case in which you represented on appeal a chinese firm that had been convicted in federal court for stealing property. i want to read what marco rubio said. he said, when ted cruz had to choose being a lawyer, he had to
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choose the chinese. i can't believe you're representing them. >> candidates can attack whatever they want to attack. that particular case was a civil litigation between two tire companies, both companies were manufacturing tires in china and one on appeal hired the firm i worked at to represent them on appeal. that was an attack that there was millions of dollars spent when i ran for senate. it's a false attack, it's a bogus attack. it didn't work then. and i would suggest that if other candidates are going that direction that they're very frustrated by the dynamic that's playing out on the ground, which is that conservatives are coming together, conservatives are uniting, conservatives are standing as one. and this election presents us with a clear choice. everyone understands the stakes of this election. the stakes of this election, this is not a typical election. and the most palpable sense as i
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tral t travel the country that people feel is i keep getting burned. people don't say what they're going to do. they go to washington, they don't follow their word, they don't follow their commitments. we want a republican vote in the house, a republican vote in the senate, and there is a volcanic suggestion that they don't honor the voters. well, in this presidential election, the people of iowa have a chance to make an assessment. who can you trust? my advice is don't listen to what anybody says, don't listen to what i say, don't listen to what donald trump says or anyone else. instead look at our records. if you want someone that will stand up against obamacare, ask who has stood up against obamacare. if you want someone to stand up against amnesty, don't ask who is for amnesty, ask who gave the fight for the amnesty bill. if you want someone to fight life and marriage and religious
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liberty, ask who has a record of fighting life and marriage and religious liberty. there's a reason we're seeing people in iowa come together, and that's because people are tired of conservative rhetoric when they announce their campaign for president, and they're looking for a consistent conservative, someone who is the same yesterday, today and tomorrow. with me you know what you're going to get, and i think that's why conservatives are coming together behind our campaign. >> you're down 4% in the polls, what do you blame that on? >> we've been listening to senator ted cruz in manchester, iowa taking questions from reporters there. we're going to continue to listen in. you saw hallie jackson was there asking questions. she's still there, so we'll check back in with hallie as soon as that wraps up. for now let's move to another political story, big story over the weekend. a potential third party run by
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could it be an already unconventional 2016 race gets even wackier? sources tell us that mayor michael bloomberg is toying with a third party bid as candidate. steve bernanke joins me for this. i'll start with you, steve. it's not clearcut that he's going to join, he's in right now. there are conditions. >> i think he's looking for a very specific scenario that's still on the whole much less likely to happen than to happen. historically when you look at third party candidates coming to the surface and really making an impact, it's generally when both parties' nominees are found to be unacceptable for one reason or another. when ross perot in 1992 spouted
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up, he was personally not popular, so there was room in the middle. what bloomberg seems to be looking at here is the potential that democrats nominate bernie sanders and on the republican side you get a donald trump or ted cruz, someone who represents the middle, and there would be room for someone theoretically in the middle. >> here's what donald trump had to say about it yesterday. >> i would love to have michael get in the race. he's been a friend of mine over the years. perhaps we're not friends anymore. he wanted to do this for a long time and never pulled the trigger. i personally would love to compete with michael bloomberg. >> interesting. bring him on, he says. do you think he means that? >> if michael bloomberg runs for president, we don't know what
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constituency there would be. but if there is a profile of a bloomberg voter, it's someone more likely to be in the democrat democratic party, someone more coastal for middle america. >> pulling away from bernie sanders or hillary clinton. let me bring in ari because he's in the newsroom, too. ari, i guess the first question is, wait a minute, can he really do this now? it's so late in the season. >> i'm listening to your conversation in the newsroom, and it is interesting, what is the profile of the voter, but what is the profile of the candidacy? it does take something to get on these ballots, particularly if you're not using a party apparatus. being an independent is popular in american life. it's not the way most states organize, most states run by a state party. he would have to get on the ballots. the first deadline coming as early as may in texas. a big state with 80,000 signatures needed.
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and north carolina has a deadline of june 9. he would need the signatures. he has the money, but he would need to, at least by early summer, figure out if he had the protective measures to get in on these ballots, even if he were to come in later. steve gave the advice of perot. he was in, he was out, but he found a way to get on the ballots. libertarians for example, have gotten in on all 50 states if they're committed. >> it's interesting he says the texas one. that was the test for perot. in february of '92, he said i'll do this if volunteers put me on the ballot. texas needed 50,000 in '92. he got 200,000. they knew he was serious. >> what is bloomberg's biggest political liability? >> you're running as an independent and you want to draw from both parties.
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his biggest ideas are culturally liberal. if you're trying to draw from the democratic coalition, though, he's very tight with wall street. he comes from wall street, basically. so the ties to wall street that bernie sanders, the republican party, do not like. >> i would say in regards to the deadlines, there is a mood, kate. we like the warrior. it was important in "braveheart." mel gibson originally didn't want to fight. >> you like that, don't you? >> that's a last resort. if they come for my family, i will hit the battlefield. we don't look for that in our presidents. steve and i, you run back to mario cuomo, most of the citizens, and you see this with bernie's ef effervescence, we w
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someone who wants the job. >> we already have so many outsider, brazen candidates. >> that's the thing with bloomberg, too, you look at his style. ross perot has a populist attitude. can bloomberg pull it off? i don't think he can. >> we're going to emily and she's been looking at the two candidates in this race and one is working harder than the other. >> the potential candidates, we know there is no contest. mayor michael bloomberg is worth far more money. according to forbes he's worth $36.5 billion, almost entirely because of bloomberg lp, his private company that has financial data software. i should disclose i actually worked for that company for several years. donald trump, his fortune of $45
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billion putting him on the list of richest americans is mostly from real estate assets and also tv licensing deals. one thing we do know, actually, that's interesting is bloomberg media actually do their own rankings of the wealthiest americans. they say trump is worth a whole lot less, and they say trump is actually vastly overestimating the value of his own name brand. that aside, we do know that michael bloomberg has in the past been very willing to spend to win elections. he actually spent the most money of any private citizen to win an election. he spent a record $268 million on his campaigns to be mayor of new york city. this is over the course of three campaigns. it's a whole lot of money, and forbes, kate, also has something fun. they call this the self-made score, a score from 1 to 10. 1 means you're a total silver spooner, you inherited all your money, you didn't earn a dime. a 10 means you're a bootstrapping jake gatsby type.
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donald trump is a 5. his father did have an empire and he was born into it. michael bloomberg is an 8. on paper these two look a lot alike. multi-billionaire businessmen from new york city. >> thank you so much. will a potential candidacy for bloomberg appeal to trump fans? we spoke to some outside a rally and here's what they had to say. >> i like to see people shake it up. people who don't are owned by corporate masters, something like that. people who with their own money can do what the people want or what the heads of parties want. >> i think people are start to go realize that success isn't a bad thing. you see a lot of times people say, oh, he's a billionaire, and they act like that's a negative term. if someone is rich it means they're successful and we need that kind of thinking to make us
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successful, too. >> those comments come as a new story in new york magazine takes an in-depth look at how 100 republicans in iowa and new hampshire see the world and see the gop primary. joining me now, the author of that story, national affairs editor from new york magazine, gabriel shane, is with us. gabriel, thank you for being here. >> thank you for having me. >> i found myself engrossed in reading all the accounts from real people. i want to share one of them from a donald trump supporter. she told you, as soon as trump was on the field, i was there. this is who i want. i didn't look at anybody else, it's just been the donald. he speaks to engine win americans at heart, they gat ge what the country is based on. and trumps for the military. he'll straight you tell you that. >> people said they want someone strong.
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it's not a policy position per se. they want someone who will take care of them, as you said in that segment, they know what they want and trump obviously communicates that. >> i think you used the word testosterone. >> the voters did. they want someone who has that confidence. >> you also wrote that issues didn't really seem to be the point of voters' support. it was common to hear voters say they could choose any of the candidates across the idealogical spectrum. so what was motivating them? was it more the feel of the candidate? >> it's about mood. t the electorate wants someone easy and trump is tapped into that and on the left to a different degree bernie sanders has. you can count on trump's support on his performance. >> we've talked so much about this on msnbc that there is danger, that people are worried. another quote that jumped out from an iowa voter, if hillary clinton wins this election, the
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country will either roll over and play dead or i could see some kind of revolution. is that different from other elections you've covered? >> clearly what i'm struck by, we're now eight years removed from the financial crisis. i think we're sort of seeing the aftershocks, it's almost like a post-traumatic stress disorder after the financial crash and 9/11 and the iraq war. the electorate this time around seems more on edge than you would expect in an earlier election. in 2004, it was after the anthrax attacks and 9/11. but this time around, really, voters are grasping at a candidate like trump. i think it gives you a sense of the mood out there. >> gabe vriel sherman, thank yoo much for being with us. the piece is in new york magazine. it's on stands today and on line wednesday. the state's attorney jena points a special council to address the water problem in flint.
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developing now in the flint, michigan water crisis is a story we've been following with extensive coverage for months now. michigan's attorney general said today he put together an independent investigating team to look into the water crisis there. for more loeet's go out to msnb national reporter who has been following this all along. what's the latest thing that the attorney general is going to launch an independent investigation, tony? >> it's a possibly pivotal moment in this water crisis, the appointing of these two individual kocounselkoun counse investigate this water crisis. people are worried this won't be a truly objective investigation, and forcing the governor to do
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things right here is something residents find particularly hard to believe because that's how they got into this mess in the first place. they were told to drink the water, and here they are, two years later still unable to drink the water. there was one bit of news very popular in this neighborhood, and that was the issue of the water bills. one of the dark ironies here in flint is residents pay extraordinarily high rates for the water yet they can't drink it. the attorney general said that's a bad idea, he doesn't support it. i don't know if he has the ability to change that, but politically it's an important comment. i want you to listen to some sound we got from a resident talking particularly about the predicament residents find themselves in when it comes to water. >> you're paying them in order to keep the water on. >> that's the bill. >> why are you still paying it if it's making you sick?
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>> they'll cut it off. if i don't pay it, when the next bill comes, it will be double the amount a no-win situation. >> reporter: there you have it. people say, i either pay it now or pay more later. i don't really have a choice. i need my water. >> and let me follow up, tony, i'm going to ask this carefully, but we're hearing about the imprisoned former detroit mayor, kwame kill patripatrick, weighin this. what do we know? >> kwame kilpatrick, former mayor of detroit, serving a 20-year sentence for racketeering and bribe-taking, but he wrote a letter accusing governor snyder of covering up this water crisis, saying there was acknowledgement of it going back to 2004 and says that the governor has been viciously untruthful. very unclear if there's any substance to that allegation. 2004 is very early. you recall residents didn't
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begin complaining about the water until april of 2014. so, a vast discrepancy there. but interesting commentary that we'll certainly follow up on, kate. >> and have we been able to verify independently the authenticity of that letter? >> reporter: no, not yet. it's been reported widely, it hasn't been confirmed as a fake, but we're working to verify it and follow up on the allegations. if true, kwame would have been in a position to know something, and what he found out could be pivotal. >> sure. very interesting. tony decoppell, thanks so much for all of your coverage. rachel maddow is heading back to flint this week to host a town hall on the water crisis. that's this wednesday at 9:00 eastern, only here on msnbc. we'll have more on the crisis as well, as another crisis strikes in the state, right after this.
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less than 70 miles away from the water crisis in flint that we've been talking about, detroit schools also fighting through a difficult time. two schools are closed in the
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state's biggest school district today, due to teacher sickouts again. msnbc's senior editor of digital and video content, cal perry, has been following the campaign both for flint and for detroit, where they are singling out now, as i understand it, one of the emergency managers, right? he's taking some heat? >> absolutely, darnell early. he was the emergency manager in flint from october of 2013 and did that job for 16 months. no one's really saying he's responsible for the water crisis -- >> but that was during his time? >> he was there and overseeing it during that time. after he was done with flint, he takes over the detroit public schools. now you have both of these campaigns kind of merging in social media. we have a tweet from michael moore, which we'll see you now, and he was one of the first people to say, this is the same guy. this is guy who ran flint and he's now running the public schools. we've heard recently also from the aclu. some of the folks out on the ground in detroit raising this issue, talking about bad management. this is just bad public management. it's calling into question this whole emergency management
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system that the state are under. >> so i know there was talking about the schools and how long they could continue of these sickouts. was there some kind of a ruling today about whether teachers can continue to call in sick? >> the school district went to court today and said, these aren't sick-outs, which is what the teachers are calling it, this is a strike. the teachers argue, well, we don't have a school board anymore, we have darnell early and this emergency management so we have no channel to put our grievances through. the judge agreed, said we'll see you in february, wanted time to think about it and more paperwork from both sides. so we still have the sick-outs and closed schools. >> and we don't know if that continues tomorrow and through the week? >> it will continue throughout the week. today, only two schools. but with the conditions inside of those schools and the teacher's union standing its ground, i think it will continue. >> cal perry, watching all that for us, thank you so much. coming up at the top of the hour, the east coast continues to dig out and the airports are playing catch-up after this weekend's record-breaking storm. but another major storm system
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i'm kate snowe and we begin this hour, once again with the big digout. people along the east coast still shoveling out of the massive blizzard that dumped more than 3 feet of snow in some areas. the snow is over, but headaches are certainly not. so far, over 1900 flights have been canceled today. and folks in new jersey didn't just deal with snow this weekend, parts of the new jersey shore saw some coastal flooding with one local official saying, in his town, it's worse than hurricane sandy's damage. plus, we'll get an update on another possible snowstorm. could it be headed toward the northeast again? our teams are covering all angles of the story, so let's start with the latest forecast
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from msnbc meteorologist, raphael miranda. raphael, when we hear we could hear another punch this week, people are starting to go, no, plea please. >> i know, it's hard to believe. there will be another nor'easter has we head thursday into friday. will it hug the coast? here's our low pressure forming wednesday into thursday. low pressure will ride up the coast. now, the good news is that it looks like the latest computer model guidance suggests that our storm will stay far enough offshore that we could see minimal impacts in places like new york city, philadelphia, washington, d.c., and then our low will move away, maybe grazing boston and cape cod. of course, this is several days away, so this forecast may change. day by day, we'll be watching this one very closely. it looks like a storm will form. it will ride up the coast. but a slight change in track could mean a major difference in the forecast. we saw that, of course, this past weekend with our blizzard in the major cities.
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now, let's take a look at just how much snow we did rack up. here's the blizzard of '16. it is going to be probably a once-in-a-lifetime storm for many of us. this is the first time we've ever seen accumulations of a foot and a half, from washington, d.c., all these pink-shaded areas here, that's over 18 inches of snow, through philadelphia, through new york city, so many millions digging out from well over a foot of snow. and you can see in the new york metro area, that the dark pink band, that's over 2 feet. that extends from western new jersey through central park and through much of long island, as well. just an incredible historic and we hope once-in-a-lifetime snowstorm for portions of the i-95 corridor. new york city, this was the second greatest snowstorm on record. the number one record, we missed it by a tenth of an inch of snow, if you can believe it. that was back in 2006. but if you remember that storm, that was nothing like what we had this past weekend. it was much smaller, even though we had higher amounts in central park, the impact being felt by far many more people across the
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northeast, this blizzard, even though it's going to end up number two on the list. just to put it into context here, these are the snow totals from yesterday. or from this past blizzard, rather. 19.4 in d.c. 29 inches, baltimore. and this is how much you normally see in a whole season of snow. and these numbers eclipsed all of these in places like central park, where we formally see 25 inches, of course. we saw close to 27. and jfk picked up 30 inches of snow. normally in a season, you only get 23 inches. now, the melting has already begun. temperatures well above freezing. this is good news, we don't want to be living with the snow for too long. it's going to stick around for many weeks, but these are your current temperatures. 41 in d.c., near 40 in philadelphia. we get the melting going on during the day, but then we re-freeze overnight. that's going to continue to be a problem along the major cities along the i-95 corridor. watch out for patchy black ice tomorrow morning, for the commute, and day after day. and again, kate, we'll track that nor'easter potential. see exactly where it's going to
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track as we get closer to thursday and friday. we'll be very alert for this one. >> and not to ignore the southeast, i notice that florida is rain, rain, rain for a couple of days. >> it's not going to be a nice stretch there towards the middle of the weekend. >> raphael miranda, thanks so much. let's go over to nbc's luke russert, he's in washington, d.c. where schools and government offices are still closed on this monday, as they continue to dig out. 41 degrees, though, there right now. not too bad. you must be seeing some melting, luke. >> reporter: yeah, the melting is coming along here, kate. but as you see, the issue still at hand are these massive piles of snow that have accumulated here over the last few days. the city doing their best to try and get rid of them. here's what they do, is they have a parade of dump trucks, like you see over there, and those dump trucks literally go up to a tractor, which is picking up the snow, putting it in the truck, and then they take it to an off-site area, where they rent release it, come back, and do the process over again. in order to facilitate that, the city has to close off streets, like you see right here, the
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police there. they close off the streets to do this process, which understandably, if we go over here, creates a traffic snarl, which is why the mayor said, please, please, please, do not drive on the streets unless it's an emergency. let the plows do their job, because you get in the way of the plows, get in the way of everybody else, and you're not going to go anywhere really quickly. so a good bit of news is that metro, our public transportation train system is back up and running, almost at full capacity, at least in the city. the outer areas are coming along. as for what's going to happen tomorrow, and it's not clear as of right now, we have reports of school closings in some areas of maryland and virginia. there are suburbs of d.c., an expected update on that around 5:00 p.m. from the mayor. but i think it's safe to say, downtown d.c., we're about a block away from the white house, hopefully, if this is an ongoing effort throughout the night, should be up and running 80% capacity tomorrow. a little bit better than what congress does.
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>> and no word on the federal government, whether they're open for business tomorrow? >> reporter: no word from the opm right now. the senate has delayed their votes until wednesday. the house over the weekend, went ahead and canceled all their business. so in terms of the actual mechanisms of government and your representative democracy, that is a short workweek in the senate and the cancellation in the house. as for everything else, we'll finally out here in the next hour or so. but if metro is up and running to the degree it is, and a lot of these main thoroughfares are clear, probably at least have more than essential personnel and not as many telecommuters, kate. >> luke russert down in washington, thanks. turning now to new jersey, where shore communities in the southern part of the state are dealing with severe flooding. nbc's rahema, ellis, is in west wildwood, new jersey. rahema, what do you see out there now? is it getting any better? >> reporter: well, the water is receding, and there's been a lot of assessment of the damage and what's it's going to cost for
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cleanup. and in terms of the assessment of damage, there was some controversy earlier today, when the administrator of west wildwoods characterized the damage here as catastrophic. the governor's office took exception, thinking that people across the state and elsewhere may have thought that that was the way you should characterize damage everywhere. and the folks here say, no, they're speaking specifically about this community. take a listen. >> this is a catastrophic event for our community. we have a $2.2 million budget. so in order to fix the bulkhead alone will be about $200,000. that doesn't count -- any of the other cleanup that we have, and the only way we can really raise these funds is through taxation. we have a community here, a lot of our people are seniors, are on fixed income. so in order for us to raise taxes to make these repairs, is catastrophic in their life. >> reporter: and so what they're talking about is this bulkhead
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here, kate. as you can see, some of it is down here in the sand. this is exactly not where it's supposed to be. it's supposed to be the wall of protection for this community. one of the big concerns during this storm, for this community was, what would be the affect on the coastline? and for the coastal communities here, this community, there was some severe flooding at one point. there were boats that were floating down the streets that turned into rivers because of the amount of water that they got on these streets. so, they want to be very clear, that this community has seen some damage that based on what their budget is here, that it's a lot of damage for them. >> and rahema, just so we understand, because i'm looking at beautiful homes right behind you, is it -- are homes damaged. does everybody have flood damage, or is it house by house? >> reporter: it is house to house. it's very spotty. some of these houses that have been elevated, so that they can withstand the kind of flooding that comes quite frequently, but not so much to this level, they
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said that they had more damage here during this storm than they had during sandy. but if you look over here, you'll see the kind of damage that happened to this playground, in the low-lying areas of a home, the garages and if anyone had any apartments on those levels, they had a lot of damage. a few streets up, we saw people who had stuff in their garage, it's now all out on the sidewalk, waiting to be picked up and dumped into the garbage. >> rahema ellis on the jersey shore, rahema, thanks so much. straight ahead, the snow event is over, but the problems for travelers, especially air travelers, still widespread today. the latest on flight delays and cancellations right after this. be good. text mom. boys have been really good today. send. let's get mark his own cell phone. nice. send. brad could use a new bike. send. [siri:] message. you decide. they're your kids. why are you guys texting grandma? it was him. it was him.
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so, the snow may have stopped falling more than a day ago, but passengers are still feeling the impact of the historic blizzard of 2016 with about 5,000 flights affected today alone. here now with more, msnbc senior editor of digital and video content, cal perry. it's a mess. we were looking at the map during the commercial break. >> yes, we've got a new sort of misery map thing for you. this shows you where the biggest delays were during the storm. obviously, the east coast was the biggest -- >> so the more red, the more delays. >> you were a part of this misery map, is my understanding. >> yeah, so i left on -- remember, we were sitting here friday and i kept asking you, am i going to be able to get out of new york? >> and i said you would. >> and i did, i got out of new york and flew to albuquerque, and there's not much misery there, but if you're trying to get back to new york, there's a whole lot of misery trying to get back. >> and here's why. the airports in the central part of the country are starting to feel the effects of this system,
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which is not the nor'easter, as you just pointed out, but it's having his effect. chicago, detroit, and new york is the biggest mess there is. if you take the canceled flights from newark and laguardia, they outdo the rest of the country right now. so newark and laguardia is the biggest bottle neck and it's having this affect, charlotte, had the biggest impact during the storm, atlanta, miami, are all being affected. >> it's getting a little better from this morning. >> it's getting better, but once you have new york have such a big impact -- >> trust me! two hours on the phone, over and over again, on the weekend, trying to rebook my american airlines ticket. i'm, by the way, booked on a ticket tomorrow night to bring me back from albuquerque. >> so we were expecting you wednesday. and you just kind of walked in -- >> yet blu -- >> monday morning. >> i was able to get a red eye -- i was able to get a red eye on jetblue that got me back overnight. i got the last two seats on the plane for my son and i.
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>> you experienced the misery map firsthand. >> i did. thank you for keeping us up to date on that. jimmy fallon, the latest celebrity helping draw attention to the flint water crisis. coming up, msnbc cameras reach a neighborhood in flint where residents say the government -- government aid has yet to reach them. plus, how the stigma surrounding the crisis is hurting michigan businesses. (air horn, trap door opening)
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of flint, michigan, on the water crisis that this network has been reporting on since november, with the national guard handing out bottled water and filters today and donations from celebrities, jimmy fallon, being the latest, it would seem that people across the city of flint are finally feeling like they're getting some help. but that is not proving to be the case for everyone. joining me now with more, msnbc's tony due copel.
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and there are people who don't know what the plan is? >> that's right. so two weeks ago, when the state of emergency was declared for flint, one of the key promises of the snyder administration was that every single door in this city would be knocked on, people would be checked on, the water would be delivered to their house, they would be outfitted with taps, that he would get lead tests. more than two weeks after that initial promise, only today is the national guard finally getting to every single household. they were about 2,000 short as of this weekend, and we're actually standing in one of those neighborhoods where residents say there's no sign of the government cavalry they had been promised. and as a result, we went out with volunteers from detroit, just regular citizens from detroit, who are looking to fill holes where the government has not been able to reach. let's hear what one of those volunteers had to say, just a few moments ago, kate. >> i haven't seen the national guard. i'm going to be honest with you. i'm not sure what neighborhoods they hit, but every time we go into a neighborhood, we say that, you know, they're very, very grateful. we go -- we get calls from
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people throughout flint saying haven't nobody been in this area, so we go immediately to the areas that haven't been hit by the national guard or the state or whoever is supposed to be out here. we're out here a lot. so i haven't personally ran into the national guard. >> so, kate, the important thing there is just because the national guard today should be to every home, it doesn't mean that somebody was actually at that home. the job is not done. the governor's office says they're starting round two tomorrow. >> tony dokoupil out in flint, thanks so much. and for a look at how the water crisis in flint is affecting local businesses, i want to check in with olivia sterns, msnbc business and technology correspondent. you've been digging in, doing some research on the effect on business there. >> and there is already lots of evidence that local businesses in flint is hurting. the reputational damage. we just got off the phone with a real estate agent. he does commercial real estate and looks at the rental market. every phone call he's getting for rental units in flint and
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genesee county, everyone says, anything but flint. there's been a dramatic drop-off in the rental market in flint. we've spoken to restaurants. they say their business is down 40%. customers are scared. they're asking for drinks without water. a lot of local businesses have signs in their water saying, we have filtered water, our water doesn't come from the city. but it hasn't done too much to assuage consumers. many businesses still reporting a big drop-off. for example, a very popular local bar says they have closed early for the past three weeks. one interesting twist, though, is that a share salon we found has actually reported an uptick in business because people are so afraid of bathing in this water, people are going to the hair salon to get their hair washed with bottled water. >> i don't know if that's good news or bad news. thank you so much. rachel maddow, by the way, is heading to flint and she'll host a town hall on the water crisis. her guests include flint mayor, karen weaver, senator debbie stabenow, as well as local
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up. both are acknowledging they're in it for the long haul. this is a little bit of a reprise of 2008, where barack obama and hillary clinton battled long after those early nominating contest, even to texas and ohio, which became really, really high-stakes, in that contest back in 2008. hillary clinton is facing a similarly long slog this time around. but one thing that's worth noting is that her campaign thinks they still have a structural advantage, even though this race may go into overtime. in the sense that the early -- even if they lose some of the early contests or don't perform as well as they would like in states like iowa, new hampshire, some of the later states are much more diverse states, hillary clinton is beating bernie sanders among minority voters by a very substantial margin. they think that if they can get past those early states the to nevada, south carolina, and then those march 1st states in the american south, that they can continue to rack up delegates in those contests and be able to have a big advantage later on in the nominating race. >> and carrie, we mentioned earlier michael bloomberg, the big news over the weekend, flirting with a 2016 run.
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a hypothetical new morning consult poll shows that a statistical national tie would happen at the top in a matchup between donald trump, bernie sanders, and michael bloomberg. and if the democratic nominee is hillary clinton, the hypothetical matchup is almost identical. what does the sanders' campaign saying about michael bloomberg? >> reporter: bernie sanders over the weekend on "meet the press" made the point that if it was him and donald trump and michael bloomberg in a three-way race, he would be the only non-multibillionaire saying that americans don't want an oligarchy, quote, to use his words, they want someone who's more of a man of the people. he thinks he would have an advantage in that contest. the real question for michael bloomberg here is, as interesting as it is to talk about a third party, where exactly michael bloomberg's lane would be. somebody who has really prioritized things like gun control and public health. the question for him is, if he was to split off some hillary clinton or bernie sanders' supporters, whether or not those
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goals could be stymied by having a republican in the white house instead. >> let's talk about iowa a little bit. the polls there have been kind of volatile, wouldn't you say? all over the place in the last week. one poll had bernie sanders up eight points in iowa. another saw hillary clinton in the lead by 29 points. does anybody have a clue what's really going on in iowa, carrie? >> sometimes we like to call this part of the cycle the pil pick your poll season. these polls are using different models of who they think are likely voters. it's one thing to ask all democrats who they want to vote for, but asking iowa democrats who are actually going to show up, maybe on a cold and snowy night, to use sort of the cliche that we all use, whether those people, those voters are going to be devoted enough to show up at a certain time, at their precinct, and be organized enough to show up, you know, that's where the discrepancy is in these polls. i think the biggest question right now is, obviously, what the turnout of those new kaurksgoekaurk
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caucusgoers is going to be. bernie sanders needs a lot of those people to show up, new first-time caucusgoers, or not just in places like college towns or very progressive parts of the state, he needs to have supporters show up all around iowa to make sure that he is ahead in that delegate count >> carrie dann with us from washington, thank you so much. donald trump is heading to farmingt farmington, new hampshire tonight. it comes as the republican front-runner is facing renewed calls to release his tax returns. over the weekend, mitt romney tweeted, four years ago today, i released my taxes, became issue. 2016 candidates should release taxes before first contests. appearing on "meet the press" on sunday, donald trump said that he's working on it, but warned that he tries to pay as little as possible in taxes. >> i have very big returns, as you know, and i have everything all approved and very beautiful and will be working on that over the next period of time. unlike anybody else, i try to
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pay as little tax as possible, because i hate what they do with my tax money. i hate the way they spend our money, the way they give it to iraq, the way they give it to iran. >> joining me now from the cite of tonight's event in new hampshire, nbc news's john yang. john, what is the campaign saying on the tax issue? are they concerned, are they still working on getting his returns together? >> reporter: as he says, he's working on getting the returns released. the campaign has not said much about this or anything at all. they tend to like to let the candidates' statements and interviews stand for themselves or speak for themselves. but i got to tell you, i can't imagine anyone in a republican presidential primary, particularly here in new hampshire, losing votes for saying that they pay as few taxes as possible and complaining about the way that the government spends their tax money it also plays in, as having mitt romney as the one
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calling on trump to release his tax returns. also plays into a big theme of his campaign, one that might have been in his mind today, when he released a facebook video, talking about how he is the anti-establishment candidate. >> the establishment, the media, the special interests, the lobbyists, the donors, they're all against me. i'm self-funding my campaign. i don't owe anybody anything. i only owe it to the american people to do a great job. they are really trying to stop me. >> reporter: and one other point on that statement or a tweet from mitt romney, yes, four years ago today, he did release his tax returns. and he said that the candidates should release them before the first contest. but four years ago, the calendar was earlier. he faced, as you can probably
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well remember, kate, he faced a lot of pressure and resisted a lot of pressure to release those returns before the first contest, and actually waited until after the first contest. kate? >> all right, john yang, following donald trump's campaign up in new hampshire. let's turn back to iowa now and the other side of things, to the democrats. joining me the from des moines, iowa, the chairwoman of the democratic national committee, congresswoman from florida's 23rd congressional district, debbie wasserman schultz is with us. congresswoman, thanks for joining us. >> thank you, kate, great to be with you. >> a lot of talk today about how the clinton campaign may have underestimated bernie sanders, including this comment from the president i want to play. >> i think bernie came in with the luxury of being a completely long shot. >> right. and just letting loose. >> right. >> i think hillary came in with the both privilege and burden of being perceived as the
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front-runner. >> is that a fair assessment? >> well, actually, what i'm thrilled about, as the head of my national party, is that our candidates have been doing an incredible amount of organizing and eventually, when we do have a nominee, we're going to have that many more people engaged in making sure that we can focus on electing the democratic president, and making sure we can build on the economic success and the legacy that president obama has laid down for us. >> so you're happy with this going on, months and months? >> oh, i mean, i'm thrilled that we've been able to have voob rant, strong, organized campaigns who are motivating and mobilizing our supporters. and so collectively, when the primary is finished, we'll come together and support our nominee, and make sure that we can build on the 70 straight months of job growth we've had in the private sector, and the 19 million people who have health insurance, who didn't before. because the republicans are talking about gloom and doom and
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seem to be living in an alternative universe and want to take away all the progress we've made. and seem to think the glory days when we were losing 800,000 jobs a month and we were in the midst of a great recession in the last republican administration. >> i have to ask you about debates, because you're the chairwoman of the dny, kc, you' deeply involved in this. several clinton advisers are regretting they didn't push for more debates, to more skillfully marginalize mr. sanders. the republicans have scheduled 12 debates, compared to just six democratic debates. it's something that two of your own presidential candidates, martin o'malley and bernie sanders have complained about. is it a decision you regret now? >> it is not, on the contrary. we have had record viewership for our debates. the first debate was the largest watched democratic debate in history. our fourth debate was the third most watched. we've actually bested the viewership of 58 out of 62 of
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the debates from 2008 and 2012 and that was, other than three clinton/obama debates, the largest viewership that we've had. we actually have beat every single republican debate from 2008 and 2012 in the pre-trump era. they've got a reality tv show going on right now on the other side of the aisle. so, you know, not really the same measurement. but it's important, kate, to make sure that our candidates have a chance to be seen in a wide variety of venues. the town hall they have tonight, the candidate forums they've participated in -- >> but those are just -- those aren't debates. >> they aren't -- you're right. and debates are not the only way in which it's important for voters to see candidates. we have, an early state primary window for a reason, and that's so those voters can an up close, the most up close and personal look at candidates. because later on in the primary cycle, there are so many states that are voting on the same tuesdays, that candidates are running all over the place, and
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it's much harder to get that up close and personal look. >> i have to ask, chairwoman, because there's a chorus out there that i'm sure you're aware of. there are at least three groups online, calling on you to resign your position as chair woman, including moveon.org, they've called for your resignation. do you have any intention of stepping down? >> absolutely not. i intend to continue to fulfill my full tenure as chair, my term runs through the day after the inauguration, and i am focused not on the groups that seem to exist only to gender petitions, but to focus on making sure that i can get our party ready to launch our nominee to the white house for another term, so we can build on the success that we've had. remember, kate, we -- every party chair gets bumped and bruised. it's in the job description. you know, i'm happy to absorb the body blows, so the candidates can stay above the fray. howard dean went through it, ed rendell went through it, tim
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kaine went through it. it's the nature of the job. >> last quick question. mike bloomberg, this potential that he could get in there, especially if bernie sanders is the democratic nominee. what do you think would happen? >> you know, i think if mike bloomberg takes a look at the issues that are being focused on by any one of our democratic candidates for president, he'll take a good, close look and realize that it's not necessary for him to run in order to get the agenda that matters to him. because democrats are fighting for the issues that he's champed, to make sure that you have -- >> sorry. >> excuse me? >> have you spoken with him? >> no, i haven't spoken with him. and frankly, if he runs as an independent, you know, i'm the share of the democratic national committee and i'll be supporting the democratic nominee. >> all right. congresswoman debbie wasserman schultz, thank you so much for being with us. >> thank you. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are both in iowa today. sanders is at a meet-and-greet right now, sandwiched between three other town meetings. msnbc's kasie hunt is on
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sanders' bus trip in iowa. we want to check in with her there. kasie, give us a sense for the campaign and what the mood is, the feeling in the bernie sanders' camp? >> kate, at this point, the bernie sanders campaign knows that they are having a moment in the sun. and you can feel it when you talk to their advisers, you can feel it when you talk to the candidate himself. and he's been doing today in iowa a series of events, largely focused on colleges. you were talking a little bit earlier about the fact that his -- a lot of his support here in iowa is coming, especially from young people. so there's a lot of time that he's spending, he was at iowa state university in ames today. a crowd of about 1,000 people. that's considerably larger than wh what hillary clinton got a few weeks before. let's not forget, that was earlier in the season. we're getting really down to crunch time here. so it is to a certain extent easier to build a crowd, but that's really been the hallmark of sanders' campaign. he's had the opportunity, and they will say privately, that
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he's had the opportunity to talk directly to many, many more iowans than hillary clinton has, because of these crowds that he's drawing. now, of course, his challenge is broadening his support out beyond just those college towns. as you know, this caucus process is a little complicated, having a lot of supporters in one place isn't as helpful as having a lot of supporters spread out across the map. >> all right. kasie hunt checking in with the bernie sanders' campaign. kasie, thanks so much, stay warm. meanwhile, ted cruz is in the middle of a day of events also throughout the state of iowa, where he just wrapped up an event in manchester, iowa. there we saw earlier last hour, he was asked by nbc's own halley jackson about his differences with donald trump and here's what he had to say. >> i'm happy to have a conversation about how donald and my records' differ when it comes to defending life. i have spent decades fighting to defend the right to life. donald's views on abortion, he has been a strong supporter of
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abortion and partial birth abortion. right now today, as a candidate for president, donald supports taxpayer funding for planned parenthood. >> joining me now from iowa, msnbc's halley jackson, who asked that question. she's following the cruz campaign all day long, has been for weeks. hal hal halley, is the campaign, when they see his numbers slipping a little bit to trump, do they think that trump's attacks are making a difference? >> reporter: i think they will point to the organization on the ground as to why they think they'll do well in iowa, basically one week from today. this idea that cruz has invested time and money and resources into this state, bringing in hundreds of volunteers, making sure that they're putting real meat behind their get out the vote effort, and real teeth behind it, to try to have a strong showing here in iowa in a week. that said, you know donald trump has got to be feeling good about this new poll, showing him up now double digits? what's changed over these past couple of weeks, it's the attacks from donald trump against ted cruz, on everything from his eligibility to the white house, from his positions on immigration and ethanol,
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which is a real factor here in iowa, kate. you have a lot of farmers. i just spoke with one a couple of minutes ago. a farmer from around here, and he raises corn, and he says for him, ethanol is a concern. now, he feels that senator cruz is on the right side of that issue, when it comes to subsidies for farmers on ethanol, but not all farmers in the state agree with him, obviously. and governor bran statstad has out against ted cruz largely because of this issue. and just to give you a sense, ted cruz just left. the senator got on his bus and headed out. this is like the cleanup. it's not the most exciting part of the day, kate, but sort of what happens when you take the cameras away and the media gets ton bus and follows senator cruz and we stick around and hang out behind. we will be here all week, bringing you scenes just like this one, kate. >> yeah, they swoop in and out so quickly. i've got to ask, you just mentioned the farmers and the folks you're talking to. when you talk to voters, halley, do they care about glenn beck? do they care that rick perry of
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texas is now endorsing ted cruz. do those matter? >> reporter: it's not something people bring up unprompted. i haven't -- just anecdotally, and let's be clear, we're just talking to the very small segment of the population they speak, but it's not something that people necessarily bring up and say, hey, it was really great that governor perry came out and endorsed him. that said, having surrogates on the trail that can speak to you is key. you have people that come out with senator cruz who can come out and when ted cruz is in one location, they can be at another touting his message and singing his praises and convincing people to get out and caucus in a week for ted cruz. the other important surrogate, kate, heidi cruz, the senator's wife is up in new hampshire doing the same thing up there. while her husband is up in iowa, she's working the crowds in new hampshire. they would like to, potentially, parlay some momentum from a strong iowa showing into new hampshire, and get this down to a two-man race. that's their goal, before south carolina. >> one week to go, halley jackson, thanks so much.
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>> reporter: sure. a new ad hits trump for being out of step with conservative principles. the ad from the ted cruz camp says that trump's on the wrong side of an issue that is near and dear to many conservatives. >> i think eminent domain is wonderful. >> reporter: it made him rich. like when trump colluded with atlantic city insiders to bull do bulldoze the home of an elderly widow for a limousine parking lot in his casino. >> he doesn't have a heart, that man. >> msnbc's chief legal correspondent, ari melber is here to break that down, what we just saw. explain the attack, ari. >> i'm excited about this one and it fits with what you and hallie jackson were talking about, these conservative principles and sborms. this is one of the biggest ideological drids in politics. conservatives often say small government leaves more room for businesses to innovate and offer solutions instead of government taking this role. this is often debated nationally
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with policy, but it also plays out as a local dispute. and that cruz ad basically said that trump used government power to take people's property rights. the issue is that local governments sometimes do take public property for their own use or public projects like pools or roads. but the outrage isn't just ideological. you would imagine how shocked anyone who owns a home or business found out that the government can just take whatever they want. the practice is called eminent domain. you'll hear more about that in these closing arguments. it allows the government to grab private property for public use. the government does have to pay for it, that's under supreme court precedent. and the issue has been bubbling up for a while in conservative politics, including radio show host, rush limbaugh. >> the cruz people are calling people and saying that you know donald trump at one time supported single-payer health care, did you know that donald trump at one time was pro-choice. did you know at one time that donald trump believes in eminent domain. uh-uh, what's that? that's where the government can
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take your property and pay you a little bit for it. >> after taking some of those blows from cruz, trump is defending himself. here's what he said just last night in iowa. >> most people don't even know what eminent domain is. that's where government takes property for full payment. they pay you. they don't just take it. you know what can't be built without eminent domain? the keystone pipeline. >> you hear trump there, making a factual claim, by the way, to turn this issue around. and hit something near and dear to at least some conservative audiences. he does brush, of course, most attacks right off his shoulder, kate. i think judging by his repeated responses here, this is a policy strike that may have hit its mark. >> it's an interesting back and forth, that's for sure. ari, thanks so much. >> you got it. straight ahead, how a potential third-party run by michael bloomberg could make this primary season even longer. e*trade is all about seizing opportunity. so i'm going to take this opportunity to go off script. so if i wanna go to jersey and check out shotsy tuccerelli's portfolio, what's it to you?
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katy tur been covering donald trump for months now -- >> seven. >> seven months. but for six years, you covered michael bloomberg with our local affiliate here in new york. so you're the perfect person to bring these questions to. i'll start with donald trump and his response, oh, yeah, yeah, bring it on, no problem. are they different people enough that bloomberg would draw voters away? is trump not concerned about that? >> on the surface of it, they are very similar. they're both new york billionaires. they're very new york personalities. >> for sure. >> but i think that when you get down into it, they're very different. i think mike bloomberg has a career in politics, he ran this city for quite a long time. to people who loved it and people who hated it. he also has a record of spending his own money when he needs to and being part of a lot of charitable foundations. he is a strong personality, but he is not necessarily a loud personality. donald trump is a very loud personality. remember, he had his own reality tv show. we've seen it on the pail this
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past seven months, and he also has a tree of is not necessarily putting his money where his mouth is. he keeps saying he's going to spend his own money, but we haven't seen him spend very much at all. he's saying he's not worried about this, but at the same time, i think michael bloomberg, when i'm talking to his people behind the scenes and they're talking about exactly how they're going to lay this out, they think they can steal people from both the democratic side and the republican side, because they believe that this country is not quite as partisan as the parties are making them out to be. they're two extremes right now and they're going to go for that middle of the line voter who's more common sense, wants somebody who's going to be able to run things, won't be on one side or the other, wants somebody who can get things done. >> so you've been talking to sources within the bloomberg world all afternoon. what are they thinking? is it real? >> it's very real. i think he has wanted to do this for a long time. i started asking when he was
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there's new evidence today that isis may have played a direct role in the devastating november attacks in paris that left 130 people dead. isis has released a new video that apparently includes footage of some of the men who took part in those attacks. the video shows them in a desert location before the paris attacks, in what appears to be syria or iraq. it also shows them executing isis prisoners. joining me now with more information on the video is msnbc news foreign correspondent, ayman mohyeldin. it's a disturbing video. i haven't seen it, but you said, for those out there who might be interested, do not watch this videotape what's the significance? >> yeah, it's a very disturbing video, about 17 minutes long. and as you mentioned, shows some very gruesome acts carried out by these attackers. the significance of it is that it shows these nine individuals that isis says carried out the attacks in paris, back in a place that is believed to be iraq and syria, in military
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fatigues, within the organization. why that's important, they know that they have traveled to iraq or syria, we know that they have the experience within the organization, but we didn't know what role they may have played within isis. and what we learned from this video is that these individuals were not just free lance fighters who went to join isis in syria and iraq, fought a little bit, and decided to go carry this attack out in paris. it seems from this video, this was more than just simply isis inspiring followers and recruiters around the world to carry out attacks in western capitals. it seems from this video that these individuals were part of the organization in a very strong capacity, and then were able to go and carry this attack out. >> so isis directed as opposed to just isis inspired. >> it's safe to say that isis was involved in this planning of the attack. >> you mentioned there were nine attackers shown in the video, but i believe one man not shown is the one still on the run, salah abdeslam. >> they believe he was involved in the paris attacks and even
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followed him very shortly afterwards, but up until now, don't know where he is. and it's interesting that isis, again, they're claiming these individuals were involved in the attacks, here's one individual that they have not shown. it leads to a lot of questions as to whether or not anybody within the organization knows where he is, or may he have returned to iraq or syria in some capacity. >> it's a highly produced video. and i guess, put together prior to the attacks, right? >> yeah. >> that raises questions in and of itself. >> it is. it's a very well-produced video. the graphics, the sound, the editing, in classic isis fashion, very appealing, if you will, from a propaganda point of view. and it was done before the attacks, because it shows some of the individuals, again, as we were saying, believed to be in iraq and syria. what's also noteworthy of this, in this video, is that at the very end of it, it shows the british prime minister, it shows the british parliament, and suggests that anybody who stands with france, or anybody who stands against the islamic state, will be a target of isis.
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so it's very subtle messaging, if you will, about potential targets. >> not so subtle, actually, if you show the picture of the british prime minister. ayman mohyeldin, thanks so much for that. that'll do it for this hour of "msnbc live." i'm kate snow. "mtp daily" begins right now. if it's monday, it's just one week until the iowa caucuses and uncertainty is piling up on both sides of the race. but is it enough to push mike bloomberg in? this is "mtp daily," and it starts right now. good evening and welcome to mtpdale. i'm steve kornacki, in for chuck todd. tonight's take, what else could it be? the big, murky picture out in iowa. we are one week away from the

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