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hammered and hammered in the recovery from the recession. the level of level of frustration and rage is a powder keg that has to be addressed through the political process. thank you very much. >> see you. >> that's "all in" for this evening. rachel maddow starts now. >> good evening. hope you have a good friend. >> see you from des moines. >> when do you go? >> sunday. >> do you need to borrow any warm clothes? >> i have warm clothes. thank you very much. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. he's forshadowing something i'm about to explain in detail. fridays are supposed to be slow news days. today was not a slow news day. we have some big news that broke tonight. the mayor of flint and the point
person for the federal lead response called a last minute, unscheduled press conference to announce some very disturbing new information from flint. we'll have the details on that ahead. when the news is still breaking tonight, we're still trying goat our heads around what's happened. it's bad news and local officials are sounding the alarm about it. also in lansing, governor rick schneider's office got strange today in the way that they are responding to the latest revelations about what they knew and when they knew it. yesterday we had revolutielatio that the schneider administration shipped purified workers to state workers that were working in the state office building even as they were telling people it was safe to drink from the tap. today the governor was questioned about that and his administration had a truly bizarre explanation, lack of explanation for what happened there and what they knew about
it. we didn't expect to have any news from flint. both of those broke late in the day. we'll have details on those coming up. we're starting with some additional late breaking news in national politics. one of the big differences between the democratic and republican presidential contest this year is the republicans have a lot more people running for president than the democrats do, obviously in their giant field of candidates. turns out they debate a each other a lot more than the democrats do. last night was the republican debating, the final debate before the iowa caucuses on monday. donald trump the presidential front-runner decided he was going to sit out that last debate before iowa. he said when he did his competing event that he sat out last night's debate out of respect for myself. he said he does not like one of the fox news hosts picked as a moderator for that debate. out of respect for himself he
didn't go. he did do his solo event last night in des moines. if part of the stunt was him thinking the debate would be boring, there is some evidence he was right about that. last night's debate was the second lowest rated for any republican debate so far in this year's race. the only republican debate that rated any lower than last night was the one on the fox business network. it matters what out let that was on because the fox business network debate may have had the lowest ratings because not that many people actually get the fox business network on their tv. people just have not had the option of watching it even if they wanted to.
last night, it was no excuse. a republican debate without donald trump in it does not rate well as a television vent. now we know. how does it rate with voters? what will the effect of him skipping out on the last debate before iowa in terms of the overall course of the race? the des moines register summed up last night's republican debate with this headline. rough night for ted cruz. donald trump skipping out on the debate, a will the of people said made him the de facto winner. it was a power move and made them look weak. maybe. up with of the other consequences is it made all the focus of attacks of last night's debate to senator ted cruz of texas. >> senator cruz, when senator rubio proposed that bill
creating path to citizenship, you proposed an amendment. press last month on why you supported legalization, you claim that you didn't, like you just did. i saw that. you argued this was a poison bill amendment. something designed to kill the bill and not get it through. that is not however, how it sounded at the time. watch. >> want this bill to be voted down. i don't want immigration reform to fail. i want immigration reform to pass. >> that would fix the problem and also allow for those 11 million people here illegally a legal status with citizenship off the table. >> was that all an act? >> what is insulting is he's the king of saying you're for amnesty. everybody's for amnesty except for ted cruz. it's falseness. that's an authenticity problem. >> this is the lie that ted ease campaign is built on.
you've been willing the say or do anything in order to get votes. you worked for george w. bush's campaigns. you helped design george w. bush's immigration policy. >> 13 republican senators have endorsed other candidates, none have endorsed you. does your style sometimes get in the way of your ability to get things done, sir? >> we're not going to beat hill clinton with someone who is willing to say or do anything to win an election. >> you have compared senators cruz and rubio to barack obama saying we cannot afford another inexperienced president. is either of them ready to be commander in chief? >> governor bush. >> chris, i was mentioned in that question. >> your name wasn't mentioned. >> i think the question was -- it's not my question you get a chance to respond to. >> your question was you disagree.
>> i'd like to go on. sir, i know you like to argue about the rules but we're going to contact the debate. >> chris, i would note the last four questions have been rand please attack ted. marco attack ted the jeb, please attack ted. let me just say this -- >> it is a debate, sir. >> no, a debate is a policy issue. i will say this, if you guys ask one more mean question, i may have to leave the stage. >> it is a little hard to look presidential while at the same time complaining about all the people being mean to you. i think he noticed that affect that he was having in the room when he tried to turn it into the joke at donald trump expense at the end. that was a hard thing to pull off. after last night's debate the ted cruz campaign referred to the overall race for the presidency now as a two man race between senator cruz and mr. donald trump. the cruz campaign wants people to think of this as cruz versus
trump. one man versus one other man. the last two guys standing, but the ted cruz campaign's advertising decisions today would seem to indicate otherwise. new york times is reporting that the ted cruz campaign which says this is a two-man race, the ted cruz campaign is shifting all their negative advertising from donald trump to marco rubio heading into monday's vote. pay no attention to where we're spending our money. it's a two-man race between the guy we have to start ignoring. it's one thing to see a headline like this following the debate. another after the actual voting. if ted cruz is donald trump's biggest threat heading into election night, he's not on very firm ground heading into that fight. that's what the polls like like right now. we now had six straight polls showi ining donald trump in the
in iowa. t after iowa, it's new hampshire. in new hampshire it's every single poll taken since last summer which shows donald trump many the lead in that state, including the latest poll from suffolk university which shows mr. trump's lead as a robust 15 points. donald trump does look like he's going to win. he looks like he's going to win in the early states. looks like he's going to win the nomination. mr. trump's polling numbers were compared with all other modern presidential primaries at this time. he found there's never opinion an instance in presidential campaigns for either party that somebody has been leading by this much in the polls but nationally and in the early states without going onto win the nomination. donald trump may not win the nomination, but if he doesn't, it will be a historic political collapse of a kind we have never
seen before in modern politics. that said, even with his commanding lead in the polls, if you ask the beltway, the beltway seems to think that donald trump is not going to win in iowa on monday night. there's this skepticism about his lead among beltway pundits, which, i don't know, is casting more suspense about monday that you might otherwise expect from numbers. that said we dent knon't know we impact will be right before the debate. if there a surprise victory in the iowa caucuses even though he's opinion leading in all these polls, nobody knows how that will affect his polling or anybody else's polling. this is a very exciting time if you care about politics. as much, here is an important announcement. sunday night, this sunday night, this weekend, the night before the iowa caucuses, exactly 24 hours before doors close, 8:00
p.m. on sunday night you have to watch msnbc. i'm going to be anchoring special iowa caucus coverage and our whole msnbc team, chris matthews will be anchoring from iowa. brian here in new york. chris in iowa and with a cast of thousands this is a special broadcast of a time we're not usually on the air. 8:00 p.m. to 10:00 p.m. eastern time sunday night. your attendance is mandatory. on caucus day itself, on monday, our coverage begins at 6:00 p.m. eastern time here on msnbc. we'll be on the air from 6:00 p.m. until i don't know, what, 2:00 in the morning. we'll see how it goes. brian williams and i will be anchoring here. we'll have cameras and reporters inside various caucus sites. we'll have the results here. you'll spend election season 2016 with us starting sunday and
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we have the news from officials coming up in just a moment. if you want to know what the recovery is going like in flint from the people living it, we got a chance to ask some of the people who live there. >> what do you want to see happen in flint to make this whole situation right? >> a new pipeline for us to have water flowing from detroit where ever we need to be so it's clean fresh water for our people. >> the government needs to work together not as a separate faction here, separate faction there. just work together for the common good of the people in flint. >> i'm afraid for the lasting
effects it's going to have on my 5-year-old daughter. my 15-year-old daughter had a rash. she went to the dermatologist. she broke out for three and a half months. we went through extensive treatment with the dermatologist. this is affecting our day-to-day lives because we don't know what to expect. we don't know the lasting effects. it's very unsettling and scary. i hope this government will do what it needs to do in order to correct the situation. >> i want us to have new pipes to get rid of this lead and after this a new water source. >> i think it would be really nice if the governor could be hooked up to our system and he stay on the system until ours is corrected. >> your monthly bill this month is $110 for your water bill. >> 109.88. >> that's pretty typical? >> sometimes it's a little higher than that. sometimes i want goes up to 115, 112. this is water that you're
using -- >> that i can't use that i'm paying for. >> you're using it for flushing your toilet and that's it. >> that's it. >> all the other water is bottled water. >> bottled water. >> have you been able to get bottled water for free? have you been buying it? >> the kids go -- they started giving out water a couple weeks ago. >> we've been buying our water. >> all year. >> 2015 we've been buying water. >> since they made the switch, you've been buying. >> we've been guy bbuying our o water. >> until they decided to bring in red cross and start giving waters to people. one case per household is what they drop off. >> for more than a year before that you've been paying for
bottled water yourself in addition to paying your water bill for the water you can't use. >> right. >> one visit from governor rick schneider's response team in since the governor acknowledged. the state dropped off a single case of water like it was a free thanksgiving turkey instead of a full blown ongoing disaster created by the administration that left people unable to drink the water. one case of water, here you go in all this time. late tonight we got some bomb shell news from flint. unsettling news about conditions in flint right now. it's not clear that the state responds to this new development is sufficient to the task. even now with the declaration of emergency. that's straight ahead. stay with us. ♪
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months after new corrosion controls were put in place that were supposed to start making pipes again. the lead levels at some homes tested are coming in at over 150 parts per billion. now, the epa threshold for mandatory action is 15 parts per billion. that means homes in flint are testing at ten times the epa limit. the other reason this news is so important is the filters that are being handed out that all residents are being urged to use, those are only certified to remove led up to 150 parts per billion. filters are rated and certified by an organization called nsf that stood for national sanitation foundation. when it comes to filters being distributed, they are only guaranteed to remove lead up to 150 parts per billion. above that level, there's no guarantees that you are safe.
again, a number of these test results from homes in flint were way above 150 parts per billion. >> what's the highest reading you found? >> i don't know the exact number but it was at least 4,000. >> the tests -- those were all collected during what period? >> since the last week of december. >> hear that long pause there after the epa -- he's asked what's the highest level lead you found. he says, at least 4,000 parts per billion. remember, the epa threshold for mandatory action is 15 parts per billion. they are finding levels of 4,000. this is testing done since the last week of december.
and, so, these federal and state officials told flint residents that even if they have got a filter, unless they have had their water tested and they know the lead levels under 150 parts per billion, they are saying pregnant women and children under the age of six drink any water out of tap even if it has a filter. oh, now you tell us. they urged all flint residents to get their water tested and to do that, they said conveniently, go to one of the five fire stations distributing testing kids and bring that sample collecting thing back to your house and get a sample and take it back to the fire house and wait a few days. there's a three-day backlog and if levels are high, someone will call you to arrange further testing. the governor put out statement tonight showing that the lead
poisoning situation in flint is still very bad and it's not magically healing itself. he said this, it's essential that all flint residents have the water in their homes tested as soon as possible. please make it a priority for your family. please make it a priority for your family or governor snyder, you could make it a priority for your administration instead of asking people to go to the fire station and pick up a lead testing kit and bring it home and do the testing at your house and go back to the fire station with your sample kit and one might call you in three days. since you did declare this an emergency, you could go door to door and take lead sample from ever occupied home in the city. you could. not everybody in flint has easy access to get to the fire station and get this done and make it a priority for their
family the way you want them to. just this morning governor rick snyder said he hoped the water could be safe to drink in flint in two to three months. hopes the treatment they have added to the water, the corrosion control, he said he hopes it's already mostly recoated the pipes to keep them from leeching lead. clearly from this testing results we know in some parts of flint that's not true. today he was asked again how much his administration knew about the growing water crisis in flint over the last 18 months. e-mails sur faced showing they got bottle water shipped to them even when they were assuring residents the tap water was safe. when asked about the clean, safe, purified water to give state workers, governor snyder said he had no knowledge of that taking place.
a spokesperson told the associated press that fresh, puritied bottle water that they shipped into the state office building in flint, that could have been drunk both by employees and by local residents. the administration said they didn't know whether workers had promoted the water that they had in their offices as a available to other people to drink but as the ap put it, no signs prohibited the public from drinking water from the cooler. that was the plan, maybe. maybe flint residents will find their way into the state office building in flint and find their way to the cubicle farms and find their way to the corner where the purified water has been provided by the snyder administration for people who work in that building but not living in flint and they how they will get clean water shipped to them by the state that fouled their water and turned it poisonous. they can just find it in the office building. the administration confirmed the
bottle water delivery to the state office building continues to this day. maybe if you are having trouble getting clean water in flint, just carry a big jug down to the state office building and ask if you can fill it up there. that's the only water they are shipping regularly into any facility in flint. other than the fire station where is you can pick it up if you have a car or you can catch a ride and pick up your one case that's allotted to you every day if you can pick it up yourself. hey, rick snyder said he had no idea state workers were getting safe water so they wouldn't have to drink the water in flint. there's a lot of things he claims to have had no idea about over the last 18 months from the rising levels of lead in flint water to the rising level of lead in children's bodies. he said he had no idea about any of that. it would be nice if we could fully investigate what he knew
if we could see e-mails and documents from him and his staff in 2013 when this decision was made to use the flint river as the water source without treating it properly so it wouldn't lead poison the town. we don't have access to that information. we have asked him to release the 2013 e-mails. he hasn't released any of them. now somebody else is asking, the united states congress. democrats on the house oversight committee wrote asking him for all documents related to the drinking water supply in flint including the decision to switch the flint water. if he declines to provide this material to this congressional investigating committee, the democrats say they could ask the republican leadership to subpoena those documents from rick snyder and the republicans would have to decide if they want to give him a subpoena or not. in asking for these documents,
democrats are calling an interesting question and if he doesn't answer, then for republicans in congress. does the public get to see what governor snyder knew? does the public get to see how this happened? in flint, this crisis is not getting better. attention is not the same as fixing it. people talking about it national news coverage doesn't mean the lead levels are going down. with this news tonight of super high lead levels in a number of homes in flint, lead levels that far and away exceed the amount of lead that filters are certified to protect you from, it is yet further information that we seem like we're getting every day this isn't over. maybe this is just how the story goes for a while. they there will be really high levels of flint. if you're living there and drinking there water, if you've been using a filter to protect your family then news that filter might not work for the amount of lead you have in your water is going to be very scary
news indeed. joining us now is hank winchester. he's a reporter. it was good to meet you when i was in flint this week. thanks for joining us tonight. nice to see you. >> thank you. great to see you. >> it seemed that this announcement tonight was unplanned. this was not a press conference we planned to be covering opinion did you have much warning they would convene this press conference the announce the new test results? >> we had about 15 minutes. we got the e-mail notice and we were in our live truck in downtown flint and the team from washington stopped at the truck, banged on the door and say we want to make sure you know about the press conference. we packed up and got to city hall rather quickly. >> in terms of what was announced there, basically, what they're saying is we're doing testing now. a number of homes are testing over 150 parts per billion. that's ten times the epa
standard and above what the filters are certified to be able to handle. the consequence of that is that filters aren't enough. if you haven't had the water level -- the lead levels in your house tested, don't trust the filter. only use bottled water. that's new advice to the people of flint, isn't it? >> it is. it's very concerning especially in the cases that you mentioned we heard from the official during the press conference. one home testing 4,000 parts per billion. remember, after 150, the filter is obsolete. now you're telling the people do not drink the water if you're pregnant, a small child. what i did appreciate was how quickly the information got to the people in is not case where e-mails were being exchanged for months and meetings were taking place. these numbers came in late yesterday. they looked at them today. they got with dr. mona, who i know you know well. they got with the mayor and the
team on the ground and worked to get that information out to the media and public as quickly as they could. >> at the start of the press conference, you can tell the mayor is sick. she said one of the things i committed to is making sure you know everything i know. they published online the excel spread sheet showing the results of those tests including the street addresses of individual homes and what the lead and copper ratings are for tests in each of those places. hank, one of the things i saw in flint and been hearing from people is a lot of people, even though they know they should have filters on, a lot of people still don't or they don't fit properly or they don't necessarily have cartridge inserts to change them out. the word is out that people ought to be using filtered
water. this will complicate that tonight. what's your sense of the compliance rate in terms of people using filters despite the advice? >> i think it's gotten better. it was just about a week ago when we were in flint reporting the fact that many fire stations had run out of filters. the governor hoas stepped up those efforts. the national guard is available. people were making their way the fire stations. for some people it's difficult. they walk or take the bus. they would get up there and find out there's no water and no filter available. i think for some people who are dealing with this situation for more than a year, they figured if i'm not going to get a filter when i go up to the fire station, what's the point. the warnings have been put out there. today i really think that was the key moment for the mayor to say if you're not using a filter, please do.
understand we want you to test your water because of these alarming test results. everybody has to be on the same page now. >> in terms of what you were describing about getting down to the logistics. they are telling people don't drink the water through filter unless you've had lead testing in your home. in other words to get lead testing they are still telling people that means get yourself down to the fire station. get lead testing kit, bring it home, get the sample. bring the sample back to the fire station and you'll be contacted this three days. asking people to do that logistically instead of sending around trucks to do lead testing is still a big ask which will mean a lot of houses won't get tested. >> true. it's a big problem. they have been able to get water from the fire stations out into the neighborhoods because some of the people are seniors. some people don't have transportation to make their way to the fire station. you have to figure out a better plan to make sure we are testing
everybody's water. when we see numbers like this and understand that there are some homes where filter is just not going to do anything to help these people, we have to have a better understanding of what the lead levels are in every single home in flint. that has to be done before they can decide how they will tackle the problem. >> it has to be done in a door to door way. it's incredible. thanks for your reporting on this. nice to see you. appreciate it. >> good to see you too. we look forward to seeing you back in flint soon. >> i have a feeling i'll be back sooner than i thought i would. we have much more. stay ahead. machine have moderate to severe plaque psoriasis... isn't it time to let the real you shine through? introducing otezla, apremilast. otezla is not an injection, or a cream. it's a pill that treats plaque psoriasis differently. some people who took otezla saw 75% clearer skin after 4 months.
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. there's some news to report about one of stranger and more unexpected innovations of this year's presidential cycle. the kids table. also known as the happy hour debate. the kid's table last night on the fox news channel was the last one or at least it's likely to be the last one. the new republican debate is a week from tomorrow. it's being hosted by abc news. abc announced the next republican debate will not feature a kids table or rather in announcing their criteria for candidates qualifying, they didn't mention that they are killing the kid's table.
it was up to reporters to follow up and announce they are not planning on doing so. that means last night's will be the last one. kid's table. we hardly knew you. it was a weird thing to invent. i guess it's the last one. there is one other thing to note. last night because it will be the last one and because we're about to have voting in iowa, it's hard to imagine when we're going to see these guys in any circumstance at all. mike huckabee and rick santorum cannot qualify. they promptly head ed over to donald trump's special events. they got in on trump events. they will be the last time they will see us in a political context. on stage with donald trump trying not to appear to next to
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i'm hillary clinton and i approve this message. >> i can say with no confidence at all that those will be the closing argument ads. that maybe those will be the last ads that iowans will see from the two major democratic candidates before it's time the vote, maybe. actually, probably not. the point is we won't know what they're closing argument is, from either campaign, until there's no more arguing. until the voting has started in iowa. who knows if that will be the last word from bernie sanders or hillary clinton. that's the latest word for them. there's no need to jump the gun. time is short now. caucuses start monday at 8:00. ♪ but i can't come home right now... ♪ ♪ me and the boys are playing.♪. ♪ ... all nig♪t text beth, what can i do... [siri:] message. pick up milk.
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and looking good, and sandwich and soup and inside jokes, and dan is back! good, clean food pairs well with anything. the clean pairings menu. 500 calories or less. at panera. food as it should be. here it comes. who is playing today? >> tonight's guest is ben son from houston, texas. he has lived in texas for 18 years. he has three children. please meet benson. >> it's nice to meet you. thank you for playing. >> thank you, dr. rachel. >> i bet you call everybody doctor, but i'll take it. as an icu nurse i imagine you
will be able to hald the pressure of this game and more. this is it going to be fun. you probably know the way this works. you're going to get three weeks. if you get at least two of them right, you will win this little thing. >> as always the coveted cocktail shaker. >> i appreciate that. if you need extra credit, which i believe you will, we have something random for you and it's slightly more random than usual tonight in is it's very small. this little bottle of bitters. i know you're a big fan. >> it's small enough that it won't take up room in your bag going through tsa. >> also, this laminate pass from this week's flint town hall. very rare. >> you can pretend like you were
on the crew. >> black and also blue. >> two. >> you have a choice. >> we also need to bring in steve. steve will determine whether or not you got the right answer. steve, meet benson. >> hello steve. >> here we go. first question. this one's from monday night's show and on monday night's show we reported that new jersey governor chris christie was taking heat for campaigning in new hampshire while new jersey was handling flooding. when he was confronted at a town hall he asked a questioner if she wanted to see him personally handle the clean up in new jersey. here is your question. what hypothetical task did governor christie offer do. a, drive a snowplow. b, mop. c, work the traffic cones.
or d, personally rebuild a sand dun. >> okay. let's see. not a. not c. mop. >> mop. the answer according to benson is mop. did he get that right? >> let's check monday's show. >> what do you want me to do, do you want me to go down there with a mop? >>, the correct answer is b. >> next one is from tuesday night's show. we reported that a prominent politician and a noted kcivics dork she this week checked off an item that she said was on her bucket list. what was that item? a, she got to drive one of the little subway trains that runs under the capitol wc she got to
trade desks with senator of pennsylvania so now she gets the desk that has all the candy in it. or d, she got jury duty. >> not a. not b. jury duty. >> jury duty. steve, what's the right answer there? >> let's check it out. shortly after 9:00 the senator started tweeting her experiences and her excitement about being called up for jury duty in missouri. it started with this one. just reported for jury duty. on my bucket list to serve. >> benson is right again. >> all right. you're obviously a ringer. last question for you benson. >> thank you. >> last night's show we reported on what happened the last time republican presidential candidate donald trump tried to do a campaign event to benefit veterans.
this is something that happened last september in san diego. the group that was announced resip ent donations from that event was a shady group that had its nonprofit status revoked by the irs. last night we reported that that group is no more. they have dissolved themselves and they have reformed themselves under a different name. what is the new name for the artist formerly known as veterans for a strong america. are they now, a, vets for a strong america. b, veterans for a stronger america. c, veterinarians for a strong america. or d, donald trump presents veterans for a strong america? >> not c.
definitely not c. not d. between a and b. let's go with b. >> b, veterans for a stronger america. steve you got the answer for us? >> let's check last night's show. >> they're no longer veterans for a strong america, they're now vets for a strong america. >> right, the correct answer was a and i'm afraid that benson is incorrect. >> i'm pleased you exconcluded c. did benson win the prize? >> he is now the proud owner of this cocktail shaker. >> and we're awarding him extra credit anyway. you get the flint pass and you get the bitters. >> thank