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later that the bombastic millionaire would fade into a rand. voting set to begin on monday he enters iowa from the front of the pack. our most recent iowa polling shows that trump leading his closest competitor senator ted cruz by 7 percentage points. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are neck and neck in the hawkeye state. clinton holding three events aimed at getting iowans out to vote. they are set to join her later today. this as senator sanders tries to pull off and win here, trying to mobilize an army of first-time caucus goers with a rally and concert today in iowa city. this morning we start in iowa's capital, city of des moines, where our team is on the ground following the candidates as they criss-cross the state today. let's go first t. hillary clinton who is starting her day in ames, iowa on the campus of iowa state university and then head west to carol and end her day at a high school in cedar rapids. this as we learn new details
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about the state department's decision to hold 22 of hillary clinton's e-mails. state department officials say the e-mails contain top secret information. for the latest we turn to nbc's kristen welker. kristen? >> reporter: richard, good morning to you. people are buzzing about hillary clinton's e-mail issue here in iowa this morning. not exactly the headline the clinton campaign wants to see with just two days before the all important iowa caucuses but her top rival bernie sanders isn't making an issue of it. instead, both candidates are focused on the finish line. >> you can make her the next president of the united states, hillary clinton. >> reporter: hillary and bill clinton back together again friday night, trying to seal the deal here in iowa. >> thank you, davenport! >> reporter: this comes as the state department released more than 1600 pages of e-mails from clinton's private server when she was secretary of state. but for the first time withheld 22 documents labeling them top secret, the highest level of classifications. state department officials
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weighed in friday. >> none of this traffic was m k marked classified at the time it was spent. >> reporter: the clinton campaign is calling on the state department to make the e-mails public. >> this is an example of over classification run amok. >> reporter: nbc's lester holt interviewed secretary clinton shortly before the news broke. >> why shouldn't people, as they weigh the electability question, worry about this hanging over your head? >> there was never any information sent or received that was marked classified to me. >> reporter: despite bernie sanders' refusal to make an issue of the e-mails -- >> the american people are sick and tired of hearing i don't your damn e-mails. >> yes. >> reporter: the clinton campaign has been unable to escape the controversy. and the timing could threaten her chances heading into monday's critical caucuses. >> make it happen monday night. >> reporter: she's running neck and neck with sanders in iowa who friday night stayed focus on rallying his supporters. >> i believe that it is our campaign that is generating the excitement and the interest for a large voter turnout.
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>> reporter: at the drake tyner in des moines iowans served up plenty of opinions. does the hillary clinton e-mail issue matter to you? >> yes. >> how so? >> i feel like it's a skeleton in the closet. >> reporter: in a statement late last night sander reiterated he's not interested in hillary clinton's e-mails. he's interested in the issues. both candidates will chris cross the state today with eight events between them at one secretary clinton will be joined by gabby giffords who will argue she is the best candidate to take on the nra. richard, back to you. >> nbc's kristen welker. thank you for that report. joining us now from iowa's political cloolumnist for "the s moines register." let's start with what kristen was talking about and those e-mails. are they resonating? you saw her sit down with some of your fellow iowans there. >> this whole e-mail issue has really not been what democrats are talking about.
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we have polled the des moines register a couple of times. we have found that democrats by and large are not interested in this. so does the latest news, you know, add concern for people because they're now really focused in on the election? at this point i don't think so. just for the simple reason that bernie sanders is choosing not to make it an issue. of course the media is going to keep talking about it and it's going to be part of the conversation. but it's been part of the conversation the entire campaign. i'll be surprised if this is the issue that pushes people over the top. >> so the two ways of looking at that, bernie sanders and the democrats specifically. this as he gets out as all the candidates are today and tomorrow as well to try to get those last votes out. hitting county by county here. it's been said this is bernie sanders country. as he gets out, there are counties where it may not be because it's not going to
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constitute the young vote or the college vote. >> yeah. so it's very important in the democratic caucuses that a candidate has support statewide. why? because what's counted is not necessarily the popular vote. what is counted is delegates. and so you need to get delegate share in every one of 1681 precincts in order to win the caucuses. if all of your support is concentrated in college towns you can kill it in the college towns and still lose the chris christie caucus fess you don't have people all over the state. >> kristen, great reporting coming out of des moines register. one of my favorites are those 15 or 18 photos or photos over the last bunch of hours. you take that over a span of time. if you could make a comparison or contrast here between the candidates and what you've seen in those collections of photos of different candidates.
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>> oh, well, so, i mean, it is a really fascinating to watch this. i mean, just the crowds, the energy. you know, the way the candidates gesture and their expressions. you know, i just think people will enjoying looking at those themselves and making their own conclusions about how things are going. >> yes. and for those of you just go straight to the website, i'm pitching for you here, kathy, because it is good stuff. i want to bring in our panel as well to talk about what is happening today on the ground in iowa. we are msnbc contributor, professor at the university of texas, victoria, political scientist and professor of politics, jenny, and former aide to karl rove. thanks all for being here. >> good morning. >> and so we've got a lot to talk about here. specifically i want to move into the issues of the on the ground game today and who is resonating
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the most. and this issue of getting out to all the counties and, hey, one fact that we all four understand, all five, is that the majority of iowans have not made a decision as of yet. gene carlo? >> that's right. i think that's a huge reason why organizing very early, earlier before many people are paying attention, even before the media are paying attention, is super important because it's difficult to get someone whose mind isn't made up to come out, especially if the weather isn't great on a monday night. the candidates that have done it early are going to reap the returns. >> on the right, who is the one we're watching right now? the polls say trump is. he's just going to move through iowa, at least. because we have that plus seven or difference of 7 percentage points at the moment. looking at down ballot a little here and looking at cruz and rubio. who? >> rubio. that is the person who i am looking at because we know that there's going to be a strong finish with trump, whether first or second. same thing with cruz.
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but i think over the last ten days marco rubio has done a really good job of changing his message, making it a bit more positive, reaching out to those folks on the ground in iowa. so i would not be surprised if he finishes second. i'm not saying he will. i wouldn't be surprised. >> those are the headlines. >> and if he finishes third, but a strong third, so, you know, ted cruz, trump going to do well, but marco rubio for me is going to keep my eye on. >> i would also say i agree. i think that cruz, rubio match-up has been fascinating in iowa. but i would also say we have to watch careful because the big question throughout this has been is donald trump just like with the question of bernie sanders, going to be able to bring out people to caucuses who do not like -- who have never, in many cases, gone to cac cuqu cu quack cusses. you have to actually sit and dialogue with your neighbors. you have to try to convince them to your side. it's a three-hour commitment. so he may well be organized enough to bring these people out. but i'm going to be fascinated monday night to see how many of
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them actually go. remember in the last few years you get, what, a couple hundred thousand people out. that's it. >> 15% of the eligible voters turned out in 2008. 16%. >> that was a big, big election. >> quickly. >> this is an extremely important point. we know a model for a ted cruz candidacy and evangelical conservative. that will turn out. the rubio model, trump model remains to be seen. >> if you're a republican get ready for a long caucus come monday. cruz, did he peak too early? >> well, you know, ted cruz possibly did peak too early. we'll see what happens on caucus night because his people are the type of people are historically most likely to caucus, evangelicalal conservative, people who are very conservative. and donald trump's folk, again, new. we don't know for sure. >> yeah. >> i do want to put in a plug to des moines register iowa poll,
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globe standard polling comes out tonight at 5:45 p.m. >> i was going to bring it up. you brought it up for me. >> i just want you to tune in at 5:45. >> okay. we will do that. love talking with you. kathy, for getting up with us this morning on msnbc. i'll speak to the panel again throughout the next two hours. they're not going anywhere. bernie sanders will be kicking off his weekend of campaigning in iowa less than three hours from now. manchester. will he break a campaign pledge in order to win that state in iowa? ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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people, old folk who actually constitute the foundation of this nation. and we will not be led astray by our dear sister hillary clinton. we know -- we know the difference between a genuine democrat, small d, and a wall street democrat, capital d. we know the difference. >> cornel west, biggest critic from the left, campaign for bernie sanders in davenport, iowa, last night. senator sanders has sharpened apparent attacks against hillary clinton in recent days. sanders new tv ad, toughest one yet. even if it does not mention hillary clinton by name it does mention the trading firm by which hillary clinton has taken speaking fees. take a listen. >> one of the wall street banks that triggered the financial meltdown, goldman sachs, just settled with authorities for their part in the crisis that put 7 million out of work and
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millions out of their homes. how does wall street get away with it? millions in campaign contributions and speaking fees. >> joining me now from des moines, iowa, msnbc political reporter alex seitz. let's begin with the ad. it's been said over the months bernie sanders has this pledge not going negative. in this case he has said publicly this is me not going negative. we're not discussing going negative. if you want to find out about it, talk to me. but you see this. >> right, richard. he has pledged not the go negative. core part of his political brand but he's really walking right up to the line if not stepping a toe slightly over. certainly the clinton campaign is claiming he has crossed that line. on the stump he's been drawing much starker contrast than hillary clinton. his message has been it's easy to be progressive when the polls are with you but he was on the right side of doma, on trade
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policy, on health care, and a whole host of issues when the polls were against him. suggesting that clinton is essentially going with the -- putting her finger on the win and going whatever direction the polls tell her. he's doing the opposite. the clinton campaign is taking hom branlg at this. yesterday, joel, top strategist, says bernie sanders is running the most negative campaign any democratic presidential candidate has ever run and that raised a lot of people's eyebrows. without a doubt he's trying to fire up his supporters here, get them to caucus on monday. i think he think hs we can do that by sharpening his contrast with clinton. >> alex, the data here implies, at least for benjamin netanyarn much of his support comes from white liberal but yet we see cornel west in iowa making a point here to rally the non-white liberal vote. however, who is in the crowd and who resonating with what cornel west had to say? >> right. not an obvious surrogate for
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iowa which is one of the whitest states in the country but it speaks to how few surrogates bernie sanders has. cornel west has been critical of barack obama. barack obama of course got his start here in iowa when he beat hillary clinton in 2008. obama has something like a 90% approval rating among democrats. but west is also a celebrity on the far left which bernie sanders is certainly appealing to and that 10% of democrats who don't like president obama who are disappointed in president obama, cornel west is speaking to them. those are bernie sanders voter, hard core people. voters i talked to so far not really concerned about what cornel west is saying but speaking to the base h we needs to get out on monday. >> perhaps to outside of iowa, outside of new hampshire, outside of those two first voting states. i want to go to something that's been happening with "the washington post," bernie sanders. their editorial in the "washington post," their board coming out with comments. they've been having a dual
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basically in the past few days about what was said in this "post" editorial saying, in short, bernie sanders fiction-filled campaign. that was the title. bernie sanders responded with an attack on the "post". take a listen to this. >> people are telling us whether it's "the washington post" editorial board or anybody else, our ideas are too ambitious, can't happen. too bold. really? well, here's something that is very, very bold. in the last 30 years there have been a massive transfer of wealth from the middle class and working families in this country. we've got to create an economy that works in the middle class. and weather "the washington post" likes it or not that's what i intend to do. >> fiction-filled campaign. and perhaps too far or not? that's what he's saying. they've gone too far in their commentary. >> well, sanders, as the insurgent, has a very convenient response to anyone who attacks him, which is that, you know, he's the antiestablishment and
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they are the part of the establishment. he is dreaming big. they are naysayers. anyone who comes after him automatically gets lumped into the establishment. and that's exactly what he's doing with "the washington post" editorial board here. he's talking about it on the stump, he's talking at it when he's asked. he's always been a critic of the corporate media as he calls it. while he ticks off other news outlet, suddenly "the washington post" has been added to his column on the no list. i don't know if that really turns off any voters. i think it fires up his base. in the final days it's really what it's all about for him. he's not trying to persuade voters. he's trying to get his core people to the polls. >> good point made there. thank you, msnbc alex seitz-wald, appreciate your reporting. ted cruz will be kicking off in iowa, just a few hours from now. and now it appears donald trump may not be his only opponent in the hawkeye state. more on that after this in a live shot from des moines, iowa. whole communities are living on mars and solar satellites
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republicans candidates are making their way across iowa today. front-runner donald trump making three stops working his way south from to davenport. ted cruz tries to gain momentum as well, traveling from hufford to sioux city. we spoke a short time ago to msnbc's halle jackson. >> reporter: hey, good morning, richard. this morning the republican candidates are getting ready for dozens of campaign events today. most of them crisscrossing the state in the final countdown to the caucuses. they're not just taking aim at each other. many are looking across the aisle now to hit hillary clinton. the republican's favorite target on the campaign trail now facing new fire from her gop rivals. >> hillary clinton is disqualified. disqualified from being commander in chief. >> reporter: marco rubio calling the latest news about hillary
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clinton's e-mail release unacceptable. >> maybe she thinks she's above the law. or maybe she just wanted to c convenience of being able to read this stuff on her blackberry. >> reporter: ted cruz also taking clinton to task. >> hillary clinton on her e-mail server had 22 top secrets e-mails. well that actually is an accurate statement. this is getting more and more serious. >> reporter: clinton's campaign spokesperson on defense. >> we know that these e-mails that they were not marked classified at the time that they were sent or received. >> reporter: republicans quick to pounce. donald trump tweeting, the e-mail release is a disaster and slamming what he calls clinton's bad judgment. but saving his hardest hit for a republican rival. >> ted cruz may not be a u.s. citizen. right? but he's an anchor baby. no, he's an anchor baby. ted cruz is an anchor baby in canada. >> reporter: cruz laughing it off in iowa.
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>> donald trump called you an anchor baby today. response to that? [ laughing ] just laughter, is that what you take away from it? >> i like donald. and he's welcome to say whatever he likes. i like him and respect him. that's all i've good to say. right now it's up to the voters to decide. >> reporter: the two iowa front-runners -- >> i think we're going to do well in iowa. >> reporter: -- just a weekend away from the caucuses. >> i'll am having a fantastic time. we have 77 hours to go. >> reporter: the final push to the finish line. cruz over the last 24 hours taking a little bit of a different tone on a campaign trail. backing off some of those unprompted attack against trump. meanwhile, marco rubio will also be out in this state holding events today hoping for a strong third place finish. riff charred, and hoping to pick up momentum heading into monday after the gop debate earlier this week. >> thank you so much. msnbc's halle jackson with that report on the trail. now, the last debate before
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the iowa caucuses proved to be a rough one for ted cruz. but donald trump ducking that debate, cruz was the night's number one target there. >> the truth is, ted, throughout this campaign you've been willing to say or do anything in order to get votes. ted, you worked for george w. bush's campaign. you helped design george w. bush's immigration policy. now you want to trump trump on immigration. but he you can't, we're not going to beat hillary clinton with someone who will say or do anything to win an election. >> cruz drew boos when he tried to interrupt fox news mediator chris wallace. >> chris, chris, you would mention in that question -- >> no. >> i don't think your name was mentioned. >> sir, sir -- >> the question said you -- >> i think what the question was about -- >> it's not my question that you got a chance to respond to. it's his answer. you don't get 30 seconds to respond to me. >> your question was you have -- >> you don't get 30 second to respond to me.
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>> sir? >> i know you like to argue about the rules but we're going to conduct the debate. >> joining us now msnbc campaign hi campaigniard in iowa. mark, let's start with you on this. as you now look at the debate and what had happened a couple days ago, who did it hurt most? you know, the headlines have been that cruz really struggle tld and therefore it helped perhaps donald trump in the end. >> yeah, you know, there's no doubt that ted cruz didn't have a good moment at the debate and part of it was that he was the person with the target on his back. part of it also just epitomized the last two or three weeks on the campaign trail, particularly in iowa where his poll numbers have calmed down. he goes from being number one in iowa, now to number two in the msnbc/"wall street journal" maris poll. richard, i would argue that marco rubio had a tough performance as well. first hour rubio really stood out but that second hour when 2 conversation turned to the debate over immigration, he had his struggles as well. so when you talk about both ted
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cruz and marco rubio taking some -- in the last debate, who does that benefit? donald trump who ended up basically saying he wasn't going -- he skipped it. i would say though, however, given the furious campaign activity that we've seen, the debate on thursday nighting seems like such a long time ago. this contest is all going to come out to organization and who ends up turning out. >> turning out. the latest msnbc poll shows that ted cruz is losing ground and marco rubio gaining a couple of points there. when we hear what mark is just saying, let's look forward to the next two days. what are you seeing in terms of the candidates and how well and what they are doing in order to fire up their own base perhaps sway some votes here? >> sure. i think the problem for ted cruz is that he and his campaign have been characterizing this in the last two weeks as a two-man race. they were running the attack against donald trump but two days ago released their first
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anti-rubio ad here and they have more coming out over the weekend. it was interesting yesterday coming off the debate for the first time ted cruz changes tenor over the last three weeks. going after 17 different policy attacks he's had on donald trump. what we saw yesterday was sort of the october, the november, the december ted cruz where he was talking about his message of hope and optimism. focusing on his own policy. and really whether that goes through the weekend, the campaign said, yes, it will. it it's driving home the message of ted cruz. >> this poll shows here that majority of those expected to be caucusing haven't made their decision as of yet. this is consistent with history, mark, and as a two candidates hit the streets today, get out there and press the flesh and get the final votes in, cruz has five events, rubio has four, at least from what we understand, where is it going to pay off the most based on where we know they are going? is this -- are they making the right choices right now in the
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final hours? >> yeah. again, the final choices are all just trying to hit as many spots as possible as vaughn has chronicled over the last several months, ted cruz has had a strategy where he's gone to all parts of iowa, gone to all places to be able to get votes out in the biggest populated areas to the small ones as well. marco rubio has really picked things up in the past month or so where he is now hitting four or five campaign stops a day. this is really the crunch time. as i mentioned to you earlier, this really does come out, the tournout, particularly when it comes to ted cruz. our own nbc/"wall street journal"/marist poll said that donald trump had a seven-point lead over ted cruz but it's only a lead over folks who had caucused in the past. if it's a traditional type of electorate it benefits ted cruz. all of a sudden if we see new people in the process, able to get that benefits donald trump. >> vaughn, do you hear on this as the trains move by and try to get up all of those voters in
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iowa, to remind them to listen to the two of you, what are you saying? is that consistent, new voters that mark murray is talking about, when you have spoken to those on the ground, are there a lot of new voters that have not participated before? young and old? >> if you go to donald trump rally, absolutely yes. and i think that there's no reason to suggest that they will no t show up. it's hard not to contrast when donald trump has an event in a place like spencer, iowa, where he polls out 1500 and two weeks ago ted cruz has one and pulls out 200 . if you're looking at pure numbers, warm evening monday night. people have been out in below freezing for donald trump out here. it's a matter of how many of those people can they get to turn out and whether it is able to rival ted cruz because really if they have the chance to, donald trump for iowa purposes, to really crack the ted cruz mojo, at his rallies it's hard church service, comedy show,
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it's -- >> everything. >> boisterous event. if you can crack in here, iowa, a place where this is his territory, then it sends donald trump to new hampshire feeling pretty good. >> all right. thank you both so much there in des moines. appreciate it. donald trump's busy day will begin this afternoon in dubuque, iowa, as one of the first comments he made as candidate. is that now coming back to haunt him with just days to go? extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don't suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. tell 'em cedric sent you. ♪ beth, i hear you calling.♪.s ♪ but i can't come home right now... ♪
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a key factor in winning in iowa, elsewhere, is getting new voters to turn out to the polls. just ask barack obama. but the key for any candidate is making sure those voters are voting for you. donald trump now inspiring immigration activists and latino voters to register new voters in order to vote against him. this week, 50 young latinos marched silently outside a trump event in iowa. down the street advocates held a drive to register voters.
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activists are pushing naturalization and voter registration efforts trying to harness growing antitrump sentiment. meantime, executive director telling buzzfeed, quote, we've seen more people this year that want to become citizens and specifically because they want to vote against trump. according to nbc news polling 9% of latinos have a negative view of donald trump. and nation wide, there are more eligible latino voters this year than ever before. and in fact according to a recent study, 27.3 million latino-americans will be eligible to vote this year. and this is a 17% increase since the last cycle of 2012. joining us in davenport, iowa, is msnbc campaign embed aalembe vitale. are you seeing latino-american communities bringing emergenner together just because trump is out there with these themes seen
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widely aimed directly at the lati latino-american community? >> well, richard, you're right that there's definitely sentiment among minorities that donald trump is necessarily not saying things that they want to hear. but let's chart the path of his entire candidacy. he started giving us an idea of what his immigration platform would be when he announced in june. and at his rallies he says that that's something he took a lot of, quote, incoming for. and that's something he had a lot of backlash for in the press. but when he comes out and says that a few weeks later people are onboard with his plan and you did see that initial backlash. you did see that he was facing consequences in the press. but that backlash did seem to largely go away in terms of the fact that people accepted this as a tenant of his immigration plan. he later released more plans about his plan to build a wall, to deport 11 million immigrants who are already here. those are the kinds of plans he's laid out on the table. as much as there are immigration groups coalescing against him, there are as many people at his
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rallies that are really there for him and that support this plan. in fact, when i'm at a lot of rallies i ask trump supporter what's is the thing that makes you want to donald trump, many of them say i love the idea that we're going to build a wall and that we're going to have borders again. and that's something that he's talk and time and time again. now, if you remember after 2012 the mitt romney election, there was a really big effort on the part of the republican party to broaden their base to say we we want to be a party with a platform. that is definitely more intrigues and more open to minorities, especially latinos, given the fact they are a growing voting block in this country. i think some of the concern with donald trump is the fact that his plan does nothing to match those initial plans after 2012 and that's something that you're going to want to look for. there are protesters at a lot of his events. not just immigration protester, black lives matter, it's become a standard fair at the trump empt. with that said, there's a lot of love in the room at the trump
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events. there's a lot of people, thousands on the regular, that show up for him that support him and the immigration plan is just one of the things that's getting them out there and energizing them not just the caucus for him here in iowa but across the country to get out and vote in primaries and tell their neighbors to do the same, richard. >> thank you so much for your reporting. our panel here on this topic. one of the statistics, 50,000 receiving direct mailings. this represented to the latino-american citizens efforts here because they're trying to energi energize, as was mentioned earlier, against trump because of his statements in the past. will this activate a latino-american voting base? >> this is a huge problem for the gop, richard. you heard a lot about it early on when trump first caught fire. the mentions have kind of died down a bit found h it's returned. if republicans think this is an issue that's going to go away, they're whistling past the graveyard. >> we've seen it work before.
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19 1994, california governor pete wilson did a corp. he said, you know what, we've got to get rid of all the male, send them back and build walls. latino population in california started naturalizing, starting to vote, voted out republicans in california. we do have an example of what happens when the latino population gets fired up, ticked off at a candidate and mobilize against them. if trump continues at the national level, i think we can see a 1994 california nationally. >> i'm sorry. got to cut short there. short on time. get back to you guys in a little bit on more of these topics. i apologize. we'll have much more from iowa but the latest on potentially devastating virus that health officials warn is spreading exclusively. the craftsmen of commerce. these are the hands, the hands that drive commerce, that build business across borders.
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spread of zika virus. the mosquito transmitted illness is believed to be linked to brazil's alarming rise in a severe birth defect that causes infants to be born with abnormally small heads. so far 31 cases have been reported in the u.s. all are in people who traveled to highly effected areas outside the country. the world's health organization calling the spread of this alarming and explosive. and they will convene in emergency meeting on monday to decide the next steps to contain the virus. we are in brazil where the virus has hit hardest. >> reporter: here in brazil authorities are working hard to stop the spread of the zika virus, going door to door to help educate people on how to protect themselves. but months ago many expectant mothers had no idea of the potential threat to their unborn babies. when fillipe was born two months ago his family immediately knew something was different. the youngest of three children,
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fillipe was diagnosed with mi o microcephaly, more than 3,000 babies born with the disease in brazil since october. the children have an on normally small head. disease hurts every aspect of their development and possibly their lifespan. >> what do the doctors tell you about his development? >> his mother says she doesn't know if fillipe will ever walk or talk. for babies with microcephally there is no treatment or cure. fernando says their family takes it one day at a time. his father says she hadzic a virus symptoms in her third month of pregnancy. researchers moef believe mosquitos are spreading the virus that may be linked to it. now scientists are racing to create a vaccine. the virus is now present is at least 24 countries and territories. brazil is the hardest hit. the cdc is keeping a close watch
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on the presence of the virus in the u.s. >> we've not seen viruses like zika spread widely here. simply because people have screens in their houses, they have air conditioning. we don't have the level of crowd that you have in the places like zika is spreading widely. >> reporter: fillipe's struggles are hard on the whole family. including his grandfather fernando. fernando tells us that while his grandson's future is uncertain, one thing is for sure, he will always be loved. public health authorities say it's very unlikely that a zika outbreak would occur in the continental united states, similar to what's happening here in brazil. still, cdc officials say they are keeping a close watch on it and working very closely with world health authorities. richard, back to you. >> thank you so much. for more on this, we're joined now by dr. cory abert, professor at the lsu health sciences
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center. doctor, how concerned are you about the zika virus? >> i'm very concerned. this is something that is not new to the medical community. we've known about this for decades. but when you start having these huge numbers of cases of microcephally like ms. ellis mentioned in brazil where they had 50 cases last year and over 4,000 cases this year, it's something to be concerned about we 234know that our warm clit ms on the gulf coast and eastern seaboard are prime breeding ground for mosquitos, particularly this mesquiosquito we've had in the united states for a long time. we have to have huge surveillance to make sure that we are going to be protected and the really not much you can do except control mosquitos and that's something that's very difficult to do, especially down here in new orleans. >> new orleans, 4 million who is estimating potentially in this year and as we've seen with other viruses, other concerns,
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scars is one that's been talked about in the last couple of decades. do you feel comfortable about what we can do in the united states to prevent skzika virus from entering the continental u.s.? there's not a huge concern of it at the moment? >> yeah, i mean, we can't control people coming in and out of our borders. we've seen that many, many times in the last few years with, like you said, sars and ebola. mosquito infestation around their homes and cities. we have a virus in the united states, i'm sure you heard of it, dmv, that causes this same thing. it's not something that we're not used to. it causes microcephally in ti . children. the issue is what can we do to prevent the spread of this between human beings?
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there are a couple of cases in the united states where this has been questionably spread by sexual activity. there's no real test you can do commercially. you have to do the test at the cdc or very few amounts of states, organizations that are doing the test. >> doctor, repeat for us the symptoms and talk about the children and what it means for them and their futures. >> the sir tymptoms for the mot fever, pinkeye, joint pain, gastrointestinal, that's it. for the baby, when you get a zika virus and you have microcephalyy, you're going to have brain development which can be devastating to cognitive development and motor development throughout your life. you will never reach your full potential more than likely. that's the part that's going to really destroy. >> dr. aber, thank you so much from the lsu sciences center.
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hillary and former president bill clinton will crisscross iowa today urging support we to caucus for her monday night. behind the scenes staffers have spent this past week working around the clock to ensure a good turnout. msnbc's jacob is live in des moines, iowa, for us. jacob? >> hey, what's going on, richard? so, look, front page of des moines register today. one day, nine campaigns. republican side. it is all out battle here. not just hear the messages from the candidate but most people here in the sandbar coffee in iowa have heard the message on television and probably in
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person. it's about the volunteer effort, the caucus is a unique process. you in at 7:00, stay there for an extended amount of time. on the democratic side, it comes down to knocking on doors, making telephone calls. i went behind the scenes at the hillary clinton campaign to find out the secret to what they're doing to get the voters out. take a look. >> it is crunch time in iowa. we're days away from the iowa caucus. this is the hillary clinton campaign field office, one of many of them in des moines. everybody is making phone calls trying to get out the vote. hi. what's your name? >> my name is charles abernathy. hi, my name is charles. i'm with the hillary clinton campaign. how are you doing? great, great. glad to hear that. i wanted to invite you to get out the caucus event. very own hillary clinton this friday. can we count on you to join us? >> what is the secret to get people to come out and support hillary? >> the secret is to build those relationships. really meet people where they're
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at, the issues they care about. >> it's great to be around so many other people supporting hillary, just every day continues to amp up that energy. >> how are you this evening? >> close quarters. >> yeah. >> media guy out of here. i'm trying to get votes. >> if you're like listening to his whole conversation he said something really great. wow, i'm going to use that in my next call. take exactly what he said. use it in yours. >> i just wanted to let you know that hillary is going to be in town. we would love you to join us at her rally at grand view university. >> hi, i'm rachel. >> nice to meet you, rachel. >> where are you from. >> i'm from michigan. >> how many phone calls do you think you've made? >> thousands. >> thousands of phone calls? >> sure. i couldn't put a number on it. >> check this out. so there's a sign here in hillary clinton office with the bernie sanders campaign that says, what this campaign is about and i'm seeing it every day is an excitement and energy that does not exist and will not exist in the clinton campaign. bernie sanders, couple days ago.
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is that true? >> no. we have a lot of energy and enthusiasm. with we have a field office on a wednesday evening, i think we have the energy. >> thousands of voter, thousands of calls, and just a handful of campaigns, richard, left in this contest. we're going to go out later today with the bernie sanders campaign as they canvas, knock door to door, try to find every last caucus goer. back to you. >> thank you. appreciate it. about an hour from now candidates will begin campaigning in iowa with events across the hawkeye state. we'll check in with reporting following candidates from both parties as the countdown to the iowa caucuses continue. faced with horses that needed feeding and a texas drought that sent hay prices soaring, the owners had to act fast. thankfully, mary miller banks with chase for business. and with greater financial clarity and a relationship built for the unexpected, she could control her cash flow, and keep the ranch running. chase for business.
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caucuses and getting concrete results in the race for the white house. first chance to find out whether the outside candidates like donald trump and bernie sanders are for real. or will the establishment candidate bs the one to emerge after monday? the final weekend of the iowa campaign starting with this for hillary clinton. the state department saying late yesterday 22 e-mails from her private server were top secret. none of them have that classification at the time. they were sent, but it is the first batch of e-mails now confirmed to contain teal now deemed tom secret. race in iowa deadlocked this morning. clinton holding a slim three-point lead within the margin of error. she has three campaign stops in the hawkeye state today ending with a joint appearance with bill clinton tonight. bernie sanders meanwhile, trying for a repeat of barack obama's 2008 upset win is crisscrossing iowa with five campaign stops. and on the republican side, seven-month saga of donald trump's unlikely political rise
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that started in new york city, will face his first test at the ballot box. trump has pulled away from ted cruz in the latest iowa poll, up 7% points. we have reporters spread out across the state. let's start with katy tur in dove v davenport? >> i was driving on my way to dubuque, iowa. donald trump has three. events today. he's going to be in western iowa tomorrow, des moines on monday, and what they're trying to do is blanket the state using his more unique ability to get to places more easily with his private plane. and they are just trying to get him out in the headlines, trying to get him and out and voterss a well and trying to get them excited to go to the caucus. they've had this facebook video up for some time now that their iowa co-chair has been encouraging people to go caucus with, saying how easy it is. but there are some questions as
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to how much follow-up the campaign has actually done with their get out the vote effort. thieve taken voter registration cards at a number of their events but there's recording that they haven'ting a chully called many people to tell them how they can go caucus and encourage them more. they have been saying that they are winning at all the polls and the polls suggest that there is a high voter turnout than donald trump is going to be able to take away this state, run away with it over ted cruz, who is pulling neck and neck with right now. but the question is, is that really going to happen? right now there's low registration at the moment for the republican caucuses. are these people showing up and at times waiting for hours on end in negative temperatures to see him out in iowa. are they excited enough to figure out where they're going to go caucus and to do that tomorrow -- excuse me, monday night and figure out the semi-complicated process of doing this. that's the big question. that's what we're all waiting to
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see. there's a big question mark over donald trump. if anybody else is polling this way, i think we would say that they run away with it. but because no one quite understands this election cycle, it's been so unprecedented the predictions are all being held, at least, until we actually see what happens monday night. >> all right. msnbc's katy tur there on the road. thank you so much in iowa. appreciate it. take you to the democratic side. hillary clinton is on her way to ames, iowa, and so is kristen welker joining us by phone as well. big newsbreaking yesterday. we were mentioning this earlier. 22 clinton e-mails classified as top secret. the question is what that might mean for the race there. >> that is the big question, richard. good morning to you. this is a tight race here in iowa so the headlines couldn't come at a worst time for the clinton campaign. her top rival bnsz isn't really making an issue of it. both candidates looking to
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monday's big finish line and friday night hillary and bill clinton were back together again. they have an event in davenport. they tried to shore up support to rally her supporters and lock it up here in iowa. but overshadowing that event, richard, is what you mentioned. the state department released more than 1600 pages of e-mails from clinton's private server when he was secretary of state friday night but for the first time they withheld 22 of those documents. they labeled them top secret. that's the highest classification. state department spokesman said the e-mails were not marked as top secret when they were sent. the clinton campaign also stresses that clinton never sent or received e-mails marked classified at the time and her campaign this morning is calling on the state department to release all of those e-mails. but that takes us back to your original question, richard, will this ultimately matter to the voters? we'll have to wait and see. ultimately it's going to depend on turnout, what happens on monday. and monmouth university conducted an interesting poll which gives us a prediction of what happens based on various different turnout numbers. take a look.
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if 100,000 people turned out at the caucus on monday, according to monmouth university, clinton gets 47% of the vote while sanders gets 42%. look what happens with 150,000, clinton gets 46% and sanders gets 43%. it gets even narrower if 200,000 turn out, clinton gets 45%, sanders gets 44%. just separated by one point. bottom line, the more people who turn out the more that sanders could ult pautly benefit and run away with this race here in iowa. they will both be chris corissc the state today. >> kristen welker on the road. thanks so much. want to bring back our panel. msnbc contributor and professor at the university of texas, thanks for joining us. political scientist and professor of politics and former aide to karl rove and former spokesman to george h.w. bush, john carlo. interesting numbers there. right? hillary clinton hoping for a lot
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of cold weather. so folks will not go kcaucus, right? there's a lot of -- >> yeah, that's what we found is that with the establishment folks, lower turnout helps them enormously. and with the, quote, unquote, outsiders on both sides, whether it's bernie sanders or donald trump, they are going to be helped if they can get the voters out. and so increased turnout is going to help the outsiders. the big question is are they going to be able to get them out there. >> it's a numbers game and where are they turning out. because if we have all the bernie sanders supporters coming out in the college towns, well, then, that's distribution is not going to help them in the alternate count of the caucus. so it's not just numbers. you want numbers if you're bernie sanders but you want those numbers distributed across the state. >> because there are some counties that have low turnout, a couple of votes will swing that county and you will get the total votes. >> i think this is the last election we will finally put a question to bed. in 2008, will voters really turn out for barack obama? will they really vote for the
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first african-american. now we're debating, will trump's voters turn out, if they do do it, i don't think we will be asking the same questions again for the next presidential because we will have determined the answer for the great question. >> the great question also the e-mails. and how it's not being brought up on the left. bernie sanders, in a norm at,an you will, or typical race here that might be a big, big point being brought up by the opponent. >> ingenious by bernie sanders because he can hold the moral high ground. saying, i'm not going to get my hands dirty with these e-mails. the press is covering the e-mails enough. so folks are going to make up their mind one way or the other and he's pushing message of positivity while having ads highlighting goldman sachs and hillary clinton. >> dupg he should be going after the e-mails? >> no. >> no. >> he would be using them if it worked but we know the e-mail scandal has never resonated on the left. so they will not use them unless they work. if they worked, bernie sanders would say, this is fact, not a negative attack and i'll use it. >> on the left being the
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operative word, but in the general election issue. this is not a democratic primary. >> not in the primary. so when you look at -- making this point earlier here, john carlo, and that is the trump vote. is it real? >> right. >> who might tell you it might not be real? >> well, the day after the iowa caucus. >> that's easy for you to say. i'm saying like right now. >> that's when we will know. we were talking about this during the break. what i wonder is the trump voters clearly love to come out to the rallrallies. live love took surrounded by their ilk. will the trump voters want to walk into the gymnasium and defend their man? but we vote yes. i do think we're going to see an expansion of the electorate with the trump voters. maybe not the 30,000 that we see at a trump rally but i do think we're going to see a chunk of those folks come out. they're fired up, he's charismatic and fun. they want to continue the fun. >> great panel. we will see how real the votes are and the issues resonating.
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the camps will hit the campaign trail less than han hour from now. jeb bush, marco rubio, ted cruz heading events across iowa. while retail politics may be key to winning in the hawkeye state, will candidates' digital strategies be key to winning their party's nomination? extraordinarily painful, i hear you. make sure your doctor hears you too! i hear you because i was there when my dad suffered with diabetic nerve pain. if you have diabetes and burning, shooting pain in your feet or hands, don't suffer in silence! step on up and ask your doctor about diabetic nerve pain. tell 'em cedric sent you. working on my feet all day gave min my lower back but now, i step on this machine and get my number which matches my dr. scholl's custom fit orthotic inserts. now i get immediate relief from my foot pain. my lower back pain. find a machine at
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in 2008 it was not just then senator barack obama's ability to draw stadiums full of supporters that helped him win the white house. it was his campaign's ability to get the e-mail addresses and other information out of nearly every single person who turned out and then utilized that data that proved to be the game changer that cycle. it's a strategy that every campaign sense has tried to duplicate. but eight years later, there are concerns that voters' personal
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information could be at risk. a recent l.a. times article revealed many of the privacy guidelines a apply to other industries that do not apply to candidates. in the wake of major security breacher at retailers, there are concerns that new normal of digital campaigning might be an open ini have tagsz to ha invit. msnbc manager of social media nesha. good to see you. >> thanks for having me. >> let's talk about. where do you want to start? >> well, you know, we wanted to talk about how they're using data and how they're microtargeting. there's not really a lot of restrictions in the field in terms of how candidates and campaigns can use this kind of data. it's a free for all. and from the campaign perspective it's to their advantage to got more data. do they want to be able to deliver the most personalized microtargeted on every platform.
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it's not just e-mail anymore, either. not e-mail and direct mail. now it's how we deliver very, very personalized facebook ads, google ads. track, convey search history, data, to give them ad zks as they visit different web sites. there's not a lot of restrictions on this and how they use this data. it's kind of a new area we need to look into more. >> every cycle has been new. our panel loves to talk about. one more question to you on this. what are you watching this cycle that's new, that is interesting when this face, microtargeting? >> yeah, in particular i'm really interested in how people are using snapchat and how the candidates are using snapchat. that's the tool that wasn't there in the past few election cycles. it's brand new in this election cycle. they can microtarget on snapc t snapchat, too. many of the campaigns are experimenting with geo targeted advertising and filters. bernie sanders has been using targeted filters in iowa this week. >> snapchat, right?
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>> on snapchat. >> nine-day campaign or something like that? >> nine day campaign. >> look at this. >> reaching millennials in the last few days in iowa. ted cruz used filters the other day around the gop debate that donald trump is not at. so he was sort of targeting people to make fun of donald trump not being there and sort of playing the negative game on snapchat. i think it's really interesting how campaigns are use that platform and microtarget and deliver very niche ads on that platform as well. >> so our panel has not only talked classes on this but have been part of campaigns that started this all. karl rove, vicki, you were saying it started with karl rove. >> he is the father of microtargeting. all of these candidates need to send a thank you note to karl rove for helping them get in it. >> john carlo will take it. >> i used to work with him. >> he was the one that came up with the idea of saying this is a big nation. we need to start kafring it up
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and not just latino vote, white vote, black vote. who shops at home depot and who shops at lowe's. he is the one who started it. 10, 15 years later wee snapchat, facebook, vine. so we have seen this proliferation that started in 2000. >> the proliferation to give you a data point here taken from the "wall street journal," the cruz campaign developed, they report, 178 different consumer data segments. 178. this is based on interest, this is based on what they read, this is based on where they might go to snapchat, how the social media, et cetera. >> what is so fascinating about that, though, and the karl rove point is that as you mentioned this is the wild west. a completely unregulated front. and yet you have karl rove. you have ted cruz and other people who claim to be libertarians. they don't want big government if their lives yet they're fine with the campaign knowing what we ate for breakfast, what we drive to school. it's fascinating the almost h
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hypocrisy that you see on the campaign trails when you contract it with their stated political views. >> couple of points here. first, glad to see my former boss getting props. >> yeah. >> to your point, there's a history here of that. you have that whole do not call legislation, except in most states politicians get a carve out for that. politics, political process -- >> hypocrisy there. >> to circumvent things. the last point is, historically, politics and politicians have been able to cherry pick the best practices of the private sector. you think back to olden days and the rise of people who came along and marketers were poached to make these wonderful television ads that raise the profile of a candidate and now we're seeing the same thing in digital. >> if you go to silicon valley, what they did in '08 digitally is something nobody had done in business or silicon valley yet and this was something new. it's interest that the table is saying this is all new, this is a new frontier.
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it's been said now for the last two or three cycles, hasn't it? >> yeah. it's been going on for, yes, since the 2008 cycle really. but it's evolved so much, too. in 2008 it was enough to just have a website and it was a big improvement to even have a facebook page at that time was innovative. now have come a long way and now the candidates have to not just have a presence on all of these platforms but they have to have a whole production team creating original content. >> the issue is now that you understand these microsegments, okay, what's the message? because you can imagine with the campaign, oh, my god, 178 different messages now to put together. >> you don't want the blowback. let me give you one example. in spanish language in 2008 hillary clinton giving one message she was warm and fuzzy and if you remember in 2008 for the mainstream immediaty she was tough, tough on foreign policy, not be seen as girly, motherly. that was a problem when the folks were seeing both the spanish language and english
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the biggest factor in who wins monday night just might be, well, it's weather. iowa's notorious for brutal winters and bad winter storm could keep potential caucus goers at home. a for a look at what the weather will look like on the hawkeye state on monday, we've been going to several reporters and we can see their breath in the air. >> oh, well, it is cold but what's really interesting, richard, is that the caucus may dodge a major snowstorm by just 12 hours. you can see off to the west snow and ice in kansas and colorado
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monday late afternoon. temperatures still okay in the mid 30s. around 6:00 p.m. but watch what happens around 10:00. caucus beginning at 7:00. people might be traveling at 10:00 and we could see light snow developing south of des moines and also just on the border i would say to the south. but then by the time we get to midnight some of that snow will start to accumulate. and as we advance towards early in the morning on tuesday, even more so, snow kind of build up as well as the temperatures drop down. 29 degrees in ames. ft. dodge at 7:00 in the morning on tuesday. definitely looking cold. and then some of the heavier snow, the bulk of it coming in on tuesday. and this is really important because a lot of people are traveling to iowa. the problem is getting back on tuesday. if it does turn out to be a really substantial significant snowsto snowstorm, we're likely to see a lot of people stuck there tuesday afternoon still snowing. temperatures teetering right around the freezing mark so you might get a little bit of a wintry mix building in. very cold and very windy.
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the winds can be gusting up to 40 miles per hour, richard. interesting forecast. one to watch. 6 to 12 hours in major difference. >> with the number of candidates we're talking about they may need two days to caucus and the snow might help them along the way. thank you so much. today hillary clinton, marco rubio, ted cruz, and bernie sanders will all be campaigning on college campuses or in college towns in iowa. what impact the college vote might play monday night? and that was amazing. along with support, chantix (varenicline) is proven to help people quit smoking. it absolutely reduced my urge to smoke. some people had changes in behavior, thinking or mood, hostility, agitation, depressed mood and suicidal thoughts or actions while taking or after stopping chantix. some had seizures while taking chantix. if you have any of these, stop chantix and call your doctor right away. tell your doctor about any history of mental health problems, which could get worse or of seizures. don't take chantix if you've had a serious allergic or skin reaction to it.
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confident, they're feeling optimistic about their chances. we've seen some of these polls coming out over the last few weeks that show cruz flipping a bit to donald trump. and the campaign, that's a way to reset expectations a little bit, given this earlier in january the sense that cruz can win by double digits. the idea that it's going to be close with him and trump would potentially benefit cruz if he is able to pull out a win, might be seen as beating expectation or out perform where people think they're going to be. for cruz it's such an important state as you know because, hey, guess where he's added after, new hampshire, south carolina, he's got to be carrying momentum from iowa into the later states. >> as we were looking at the latest nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist polling, the trending. if you're just looking at numbers and in the ted cruz camp you're trending down while trump continues to be surging. is there any sense of nervousness or concern about peaking too early? >> the campaign will tell you that they're not concerned about peaking too early, that they feel as though they've made a
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real investment in iowa. but that has been the question for ted cruz over the last maybe three or so weeks here. iowa as you know is such a state where, you know, whoever gets hot at the end tends to do well. you look at past caucus cycles and we've seen almost surprises. people who have been low in the polls surging to kind of come back in those last few days right before the caucuses, sort of the time period we're in now. so it's early to tell what's going to happen monday. a lot of folks are looking ahead to the release of the des moines register poll out later tonight that's going to give an indication of just where this race stands right now. >> a fun 48 hours ahead. on the road there. halle jackson, thank you so much. headed to ames. thank you so much. a short quick and right back to iowa. decades, and university partnerships, attracting the talent and companies of tomorrow. like in utica, where a new kind of workforce is being trained.
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correspondent kasie hunt is headed right now and she joins us. as i was just saying to halle jackson, the energy as we look at the polls tonight come out in iowa. we have all of these last-minute events that are being undertaken by the candidates themselves. what are you see og the trail there in manchester? >> richard, we are in dubuque where sanders campaign last night shortly boarding the sanders' bus to head to manchester for his first event of what's going to be a long campaign day for bernie sanders that's going to conclude with a rally in iowa city that will feature the band vampire weekend among other performers. and i have to say the energy with the sanders' campaign is very clear on the trail. hillary clinton also campaigned in dubuque last night. her rally had a little over 500 people according to reports from monicaal ba. the sanders' event held here,
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between level one and 1300 people in the same city for people waying to see bernie sanders. yesterday backed off of his criticism a little bit of hillary clinton. he wasn't as aggressive in going after her. instead, reserving his fire for big companies like walmart, like ge, companies that he believes are essentially bilking american workers when it comes to minimum wage. issues along those lines. this is the final sprint, of course, for sanders. the question, whether or not he can ultimately pull it out. both sides privately say that while there might be enthusiasm on sanders' side they're seeing a little bit of an edge in their internal polling for hillary clinton me would at this point still be surprise should sanders pull this out on caucus night. of course it all depends, as he says, on whether or not they get the size of the turnout that they would need. so far, the weather is clear but there's been a lot of focus on the local news this morning about whether or not this snowstorm is supposed to blow
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through iowa monday night into tuesday. we'll keep it clear for the caucus or come a little early and maybe diminish those numbers a little bit, richard. >> thank you so much. and earlier this week talking about the importance of the college vote as has been said about brernie sanders, donald trump receiving an unusual endorsement. take a look. >> where is my football team? get over here, football team. a lot of team. a lot of team. and they were so nice. they endorsed trump. they like trump. and i like them. >> the front-runner announcing his endorsement from the university of iowa football team this week at an event on the school's campus. now the team members gave the candidate his own jersey during a meeting backstage as trump tries to solidify his support among young voters. new polling this week shows trump lead ag monk first time caucus goers in iowa. and on the democratic side, 72% of first time caucus goers say they support bernie sanders. but their opinions will not
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count unless they actually get to the polls. his orically young people are much harder to actually get out to vote and in this case caucus on caucus night. this year in iowa there's an added challenge. the caucuss will take place when students are on campus instead of at home on their winter breaks. so even if students do turn out, their votes will be concentrated to just a few caucus sites near campuses when they vote at home their votes are scattered statewide. so the sanders' campaign is encouraging stuns e ining stude home to caucus, even helping to arrange travel in some cases to help boost his support in smaller precincts. joining me to discuss this is chair, janel smithson and brianna steyer of the drake university college democrat. thank you for joining us. exciting times here. janel, we'll start with you. who are you supporting on monday and where do you plan on caucusing? >> sure.
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so individually outside of college republicans i'm supporting marco rubio. college republicans does not endorse anyone but individuallily be with marco rubio and i will be caucusing at the iowa memorial. >> marco rubio really speaks to me with foreign policy and economic policy and i feel inspired by his words and when he speaks i really enjoy listening to him and hearing his plan for our future. >> you were mentioning to me where you will be caucusing. is that location on campus or close to campus or close to home? >> that is on campus. >> on campus. stap same question, brianna. who are you going to be caucusing for and where will you be voting, close to home or close to campus? >> yeah, i am originally from wisconsin so i will be voting in iowa, in drake area. i've been a bernie supporter for a long time now so i will be caucusing for bernie sanders. my caucus location is actually at monroe elementary school off campus. we do have a couple of on-campus
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though. >> you're going to be close to campus, off campus? >> close to campus but off of it, yes. >> great. and so why bernie sanders? >> well, for me, i just -- i think my peers and i noticed that bernie sanders speaks to the economic situation that our generation has been born in to. i mean, we all feel the effects of it, inability to mo forward. and so it's very frustrating for young voters and i think that he recognizes us as one of his main issues. i think that's why he's resonating a lot with young people, especially me. >> brianna, as much has been said today about him making the pledge of not going negative. how has that worked for you in your support for him versus hillary clinton and o'malley? >> right, right. i think a lot of people in my generation are very inspired by this. we do see a lot of negatives of the political side. people sparring at each other. we've had debates on campus at drake. and they've been very
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respectful. so i think there's kind of like this spark of inspiration from bernie sanders not going negative that my generation really respects. >> janel, marco rubio many folks are saying including the panel here this morning, he's the surprise to look out for. do you see him making a move in the polls? do you see him making a move actually on monday as you go out to caucus in a way that might surprise people? and if so, what is it about this candidate that you are going to be caucusing for that allows him or will enable him to do that? >> sure. i do see a really big sur price coming from our core. the students for rubio group at the university of iowa is huge. they are working really hard to get the word out, get everyone out to caucus, especially the students and letting them know their location, letting them know how it works, especially first time goers. i think he's just a fresh new face people can relate to and finds some hope in. i think that marco rubio has a a lot of that going for him. >> as you look at this, you as a
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caucus goer, you may have to make another choice and if you do have to make another choice, will it be donald trump, will it be ted cruz? >> sure. i mean, there are other choices out there and that's why it's so good that we live in this nation. you have a bunch of options for who you're able to caucus for. but i sincerely think students can find their best interest in senator marco rubio. >> but i'm asking your number two though. who is your number two going to be? >> oh, my number two? i don't know that i have a number two, especially not in donald trump or senator ted cruz. >> you're just going to stand out of the caucusing is what you're saying if you don't get your candidate? >> well, the republican and democratic caucuses are differently. >> sure. ours is about both so we don't go to either side of the room and work through that. we go just based on vote. >> based on vote. >> do you, brianna? who is your number two vote? >> my number two choice? my number two choice would probably be hillary clinton. >> all right. thank you both. again, the college vote, the
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youth vote we talked about it so much, so important. at least to the bernie sanders campaign. certainly to all the other candidates we've been watching it so closely. thank you both. have fun as you go and caucus on monday. now, we are now taking some live pictures at a jeb bush town hall. this in iowa. it's one of several events to begin just minutes from now. what we can expect on a busy day in the hawkeye state. plus, there are new water test results coming out of print. we're watching that story, too, right after this. was engineered... help sense danger before you do. because when you live to innovate, you innovate to live. the all-new audi q7. a higher form of intelligence has arrived. 80% but up to 90% fall short in getting key nutrients
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this is at the heart of what went wrong and frankly what still is wrong. the reason i'm using a clock to hold this is because this is led. this is lead pipe from flint. a lot of people in flint have lead pipe like this going from the water main that ones down the street into their homes. >> creates a hardship on people because bottled water doesn't have any pressure.
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you can't bathe in bottled water. >> that was from the town hall that our own rachel maddow held wednesday night in flint, michigan. new water test results are showing lead concentration levels still at sky high levels, way more than filters now in place can handle. water that is traveling into homes by corrupted lead pipes. michigan's two democratic senators as well as congressman dan putting a price tag of more than $787 million on getting all of those pipes replaced. and there are new questions about exactly when governor rick snyder's administration first knew there was a problem with lead contamination in the city's water supply. the "detroit free press" reporting state workers in flint were providing with state drinking water at the office even as state officials continued to reassure flint residents their tap water was fine to drink. amid calls for resignation governor snyder this week extended a state of emergency for flint to mid april. and he signed over an additional
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$28 million in assistant add that replacing the damaged pipes is not his short-term plan. joining us now is melissa mace, mother of three, and still living with toxic water and contaminated pipes. melissa, thank you for joining us today. just a little bit about your experience to date. you first noticed something was wrong. you had yellow water, right? running through your taps. >> yellow water, yeah. >> two months after the switch had been made and you said it smelled, it made your hair fall out as well? >> and painful rashes to where you couldn't even put lotion on it. i tried with my kids. put exzema cream on it but it burned. i realized this is chemical burns. they're not just rashes. >> now, you had this experience though after they said it was okay to continue using tap water.
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and a little bit more about this, about your experience, in the winter of 2014, just going back a couple of years here, your son christian, 11 years old, fell from misbike, shattered his wrist, according to what you were telling us, because they had become brittle. >> yeah. their pediatrician couldn't understand why a healthy 11-year-old would just, his bones would just give out like that. he just fell over. and the kid is tall and skinny. so it's not even like it was a ton of weight or pressure on it. and they could not understand why his bones were so brittle. and he hadn't had any issues prior to this. >> so as you take us through the years that you've gone through this today, as we are now here on january 2016, give us a better sense of what that arc of your experience has been. we've touched on a couple of your experiences so far. >> well, my kids are all anemic. exhausted. christian especially. his bones hurt constantly. there's nothing you can do or give him to take away the bone
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pain. my oldest, he's having problems with his teeth crumbling. and he's 17. he has holes forming in the smooth sides of his teeth. the dentist says it's from the lead, crumbling his teeth. and then my youngest, his immune system is so compromised right now we can't get his white blood cell account above four so he's sick almost on a daily basis. random fevers. myself, i've developed seizure, tremors, osteoarthritis, diver tick lights, and now issues with my liver. so it's one thing after another with us. and every time you turn around we're going to another doctor's appointment, there's something else happening with us. and you know, i have a neurologist, gastroenterologist, rheumatologist, environmental physician and a regular doctor trying to help us out with this. but they're not ready for this. this is something they don't see in a first world country so their guess is as good as ours at this point. >> where are going for help? >> we're paying for everything out of our pocket.
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there's nothing in place right now to help us. >> nothing else in place to help you. the lead pipe, when you saw rachel maddow hold that up, that's the problem. the governor is saying that's in his plan to replace. to repair, despite that being the problem right now. what's your view of what the governor has done, the new report the governor was shipping bottled water to state employees in january of 2015. what's your thought on that? >> well, with the day-to-day we're shipping water to the state offices, we were outside protesting, because we didn't understand why we had to get a letter that said consult your physician before drinking your water. nobody would give us answers. but yet they are secretly shipping water. and honestly, at this point, none of that surprises me. because he has been so anemic in his efforts. he has not done really anything. at first, he sent us michigan national guardmen to actually deliver the water we had been collecting as citizens from kind people across the country. and he hadn't even donated any water at that point in time. and the filters, of course, we're finding out they may not
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be helpful. there was a home where they found over 4,000 parts per billion. no filter is going to help you with that. and we haven't even tested every home. we don't know how high these levels are. and his lack of care and concern, the words depraved indifference definitely count. because the fact that he's just like i don't want to write a check, i'm not going to fix these, there are other things that need to be fixed, it's horrifying. that means my tub is going to turn blue every morning now with the copper and we are never going to be safe until they're out of the ground and this has been said by civil engineers, doctors, and the fact he is ignoring every one of them because he doesn't want to spend any of that surplus money on us, even though lansing had their infrastructure replaced, it's a slap in the face. and it's basically like here is your poison, deal with it. >> what do you need now? >> we need pipes. we need -- we filed a lawsuit to demand they replace the infrastructure. and after these -- i mean, you know, after these newest test
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results that the water is still not safe for so many people, it needs to be done, get started now. we're thinking about starting up a fund raising event to pay plumbers ourselves. if he's not going to do it, we'll find a way to do it, because that's the way we have been doing this. we have done the testing ourselves before the experts came in. we did the informational educational seminars and going door to door. we're still going door to door, because nothing has been sent out to the residents saying don't drink the water and don't boil the water. nothing has gone out in arabic or spanish. so our group, some working with democracy defense league, and our groups have joined together and we're going door to door, because they haven't. >> melissa mae, thank you for taking the time. good luck to you and your family. appreciate the time. >> thank you. we now return back to the campaign trail from the story there in flint, michigan, to iowa. and the jeb bush town hall event is set to begin less than ten minutes from now. marco rubio will be kicking off his day at the top of the hour, as well. we'll be covering the events for
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you across the hawkeye state throughout the day here on msnbc. and the question right here for our panel is what can voters expect to hear from candidates in the final stretch. and who needs to make the most of the next 48 hours. back with our panel as we finish out the hour here, what's going to be crucial that you're watching for in the next 48 hours? they're out there working it. >> turnout, turnout and turnout. this is not the time for candidates to be giving any new message to their supporters. this is a time for the candidates to be fort fightiify message they have been disseminating all campaign long. and they just have to focus like a laser on making sure their supporters and even those on the fence but could potentially be supporters get to that caucus. >> and they have to work with the caucus delegates and surrogates in those caucuses to get them, particularly on the democratic side. even on the republican side, to really pull the support once they get locked in that room at 7:00. and i think that's really where the efforts are, as many of the kpaepts we see out on the campaign trail, no new messages.
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it's making sure the votes go to them. >> it's going to be about energy, but also will location, location, location. so these folks who are getting out, we need to see support across iowa. if you have concentrated pockets, that is going to be the death knell , so be strategic. >> two minutes. the issues you think will resonate now with caucus-goers. it's going to be different on both sides. >> i think immigration is the driving force. >> in iowa? >> in iowa. you know, iowa has a very small latino population, but it's rapidly growing, and i think that change can be jarring to a lot of republicans in iowa. so i think immigration is going to help with the rhetoric there. and then on the democrat side, that's a point for contrasting with the gop. especially hillary clinton. >> it's hard for democrats, right? >> it's an issue of who is best capable of getting the job, and
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represents what we as progressive democrats feel we want going forward. and it's a big tug and a big pull for many democrats who, you know, really do have a kindness in their heart for hillary clinton, but don't really necessarily trust her and really like where bernie sanders stands on the issues. >> and republicans, is it who is most angry? >> well, that's certainly been driving a lot of the rhetoric. that's not going to work for candidates like john kasich or jeb bush, hoping the experience, their temperament, their personality, what they have done and brought to the table will prevail. we'll see. >> and john car is not angry at all. >> not this morning. >> how can i be angry with these two? >> that's right. >> we brought doughnuts. >> where will you be on caucus night, by the way? very interesting. and how will you be watching it? >> i'm probably going to be watching it laptop, tv and phone, which is what i usually do. >> oh, you're so 2016. >> yes. >> i'll be covering it, and i'm going to be running some data too. >> what kind of data? >> polling data.
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>> interesting. >> it will be a multimedia extravaganza for me, as well. >> is there a data point you're watching? >> weather. absolutely. i think that that -- those of us on the east coast knew that storm turned at the last minute, and if the same thing happens in iowa, it's going to be very different. >> for me it will be gender as well as age group. just to be old fashioned in terms of demographics. and new voters, i think, is going to be fascinating. >> it's been fun this morning. i want to thank our panel again. thank you so much. i appreciate it. vicki, jamie, john carlo. have a good caucus night in the ways you are describing. and thank you all for being with us today on msnbc. join us tomorrow, sunday morning at 9:00, when we will have a lot for you. before that, you're going to want to watch melissa harris peri. that's next. have a great saturday. boys have been really good today. send. let's get mark his own cell phone. nice. send. brad could use a new bike. send. [siri:] message. you decide. they're your kids.
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and getting to the root of the flint water crisis. but first, they don't want you to caucus. good morning, i'm melissa harris-perry, and this hour we have eyes on the many presidential hopefuls stumping across iowa today, giving their last-ditch closing arguments ahead of monday's first in the nation caucus. the very first votes in the contest that will determine the next president of the united states. it's finally real, people! and tomorrow i too will be on the ground in iowa, and i'm excited down to my political science nerd toes. so today, we're going to get into the nitty-gritty in both parties. but first, the democrats. because the crazy-haired vermont socialist that everyone thought was a long-shot candidate is now necknd


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