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the debate. >> she has the establishment behind them. >> the woman as exemplifying the establishment. it's quite amusing to me. >> and one of the things we should do is not only talk the talk, but walk the walk. >> and enough is is enough. if you've got something to say, directly. so i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks. >> back in 2002 when we both looked at the same evidence about the wisdom of the war in iraq, one of us voted the right way and one of us didn't. >> a vote in 2002 is not a plan to defeat isis.
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>> rubio numbers go up. the gop field piles on. >> did he accomplish nothing in the senate? >> nothing. people love him. and i do too. he's a great guy, but he's not a leader. >> both of us got to washington. but we made very, very different decisions. it was the rubio, schumer. >> three minutes to name one accomplishment of senator rubio. one, just one. >> and mother knows best. jeb bush gets some help from the woman who knows him best. >> it's wonderful to be here. to be with the world's nicest man. >> do you think he's going to win? >> you're darn right. good day. i'm andrea mitchell in new hampshire with hillary clinton,
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surrounding herself later this hour with a host of women senators and governors. national leaders as well to help recover women voters. one reason why hillary clinton was so aggressive against bernie sanders in last night's msnbc debate. >> let's talk about the issues. let's talk about the issues that divide us. >> clinton and sanders in their most combative debate yet. >> secretary clinton does represent the establishment. i represent, i hope, ordinary americans. >> the debate quickly exploded in a fiery clash over her ties to wall street. hundreds of thousands of dollars in speaking fees, and his demands for campaign finance reform. >> enough is enough. if you've got something to say, say it directly. i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks. and let's talk about the issues.
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>> what we need to do is to stand up in the big money and the campaign contributors. >> under scrutiny for paid speeches to goldman sacks and dozens of other groups, clinton ducked a question whether she'd make the speech transcripts public. >> in full disclosure, would you release all of them? >> i will look into it. i don't know the status. but i will certainly look into it. >> they thought over who's a liberal. >> you can't be a moderate. you can't be a progressive. >> i'm a progressive who likes to get things done and cherry picking a quote here and there doesn't change my record. >> a democratic socialist, sanders, questioned how he could lead the democratic party. >> i am running for president, as a democrat. i do want to see major changes in the democratic party. >> clinton pressed over the controversy surrounding her private e-mails. >> i think the american people know it's an absurdity. >> i will not politicize it.
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>> shrugged off his narrow loss. >> i have 20 delegates. we need the 2500 delegates to win the nomination. this is not the biggest deal in the world. >> and joining me now, nbc's kristen welker at hillary clinton's first event today and msnbc's kasey hunt on the road heading to a bernie sanders event in exeter, new hampshire. kristen, first to you at the clinton event. okay, oh my gosh. that is so cool. you doing that all on an iphone. >> i'm sorry, i didn't mean to interrupt you, kristen. >> i wanted to ask kristen about the event starting hillary clinton there, bringing in amy
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klobuchar, kristin gillibrand and lilly ledbetter. obviously, she is going after the base that has always been her, and now she is a slight 4 points behind bernie sanders among all women, but 29 points behind among young women. it's a real challenge. >> reporter: it's a stunning gender or age gap, i should say, that's really fueling that gender gap that you pointed out. and andrea, you're absolutely right. she's trying to rally her base here by bringing in all of those senators. lilly ledbetter, hoping to rally as part of this base. i anticipate what we'll hear from her today will echo what we heard from her last night. this argument that how can bernie sanders say she's part of the establishment when she would be the first female president in i also anticipate she'll reiterate all of her instances
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in which she has fought for women's rights, both as first lady, senator of new york, and also, as secretary of state. that's a little bit of a strategic shift, andrea. as you know, she hasn't been focusing so much on that in recent months, in recent weeks. now, an acknowledgment by this campaign they've got to reach out to her basend rally women voters if she wants to close the very large gap here that she has with bernie sanders in this state. he leads her by 20 points and the clinton campaign, not anticipating a win, but hoping that they can close that gap a little bit, so that come tuesday, she's at least within single digits. i can tell you that over the weekend, there's going to be hundreds of volunteers here from clinton world all over the state to help work on the ground game so they can hope to achieve that and meanwhile, she also has her sights set on some of the states that will vote later this month and on sunday, she visits flint, michigan, of course, the
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epicenter of the water crisis impacting so many in the african-american community there. a visit like that could resonate in a state like south carolina where there's a large african-american voting population. she has the lead right now. she needs african-americans to turn out in force if she hopes to win south carolina, which will be critical particularly if she loses here. so we're waiting for secretary clinton, and again, expecting some pretty powerful optics today. andrea? >> kristen welker, and kasie hunt out there on the road. bernie sanders, a strong debate performance. although, there is some criticism, certainly, the spin coming from the clinton team, that he did not know how to handle foreign policy questions. it was certainly less his wheelhouse than the powerful arguments he made about wall street. >> that's righ >> reporter: that's right, andrea. it's clear that from twitter
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communications director, they feel bernie sanders did not pass the commander in chief test. that's how they're casting it. sanders has focused mostly on the economy and you heard him make the argument that foreign policy should be about judgment, and not necessarily about experience. he's acknowledging secretary clinton has more foreign policy experience than he does, but trying to say that on issues like the war in iraq, for example, that he ultimately showed better judgment. we also got a little bit of a description of what could be the sanders doctrine, although right now, it seems from listening to him in the debate, that the main focus of that is simply that the united states should always be part of a coalition. we haven't heard him identify in too much detail yet what circumstances would require america to intervene abroad with a coalition. >> thanks very much.
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and now turning to the republican race. our latest poll shows trump is holding on to a solid lead here in new hampshire with marco rubio gaining ground and halle jackson joining me now. halle is grounded? the man who's got 757, the helicopters? >> trump force 1. s >> snow has finally come between donald trump and his potential voters. >> he was just in the state last night. but he likes to go home. he likes to kind of spend time in new york when he doesn't have to be on the road, but that is obviously problematic in new england in february and have to go to manchester. he will be in south carolina tonight but have to cancel the event today. it has been rescheduled to monday. he will still try to get out and hold that rally. but it's interesting when you look at the numbers. marco rubio getting some momentum and that is reflected in the brand new boston poll in suffolk.
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speaking with the campaign, he's moving venues because the crowds are getting so big. through the weekend, they're moving to bigger spaces because of so many rsvps. they're going from a cafeteria to a gym. the campaign are feeling good about where they are right now. i don't think there's a sense they would overtake donald trump leading by double digits for months. ted cruz slipping a bit. sure, this isn't a state where he would play naturally. but there have been some eyebrows raised about why he maybe isn't spending more time in south carolina, although, he has a couple of weeks before the nominating contest there. >> tell me about your reporting on the audio that came up with. allegedly, ted cruz's campaign, the audio, allegedly, these were ted cruz workers trying to suggest that ben carson was dropping out before the caucus to deal away his supporters. >> the idea was that the campaign passed along information, a new story saying
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carson was going to head from iowa down to florida back home to change his clothes before going to new hampshire and south carolina. the implication being, allegedly, he was maybe going to drop out of the race. i think we have some of the audio to play. >> hello, this is the cruz campaign with breaking news. or ben carson will be suspending campaigning following tonight's caucuses. please inform any carson caucus goers of this news. >> nbc news has not identified the specific calls, but we can confirm that calls like these were made. the cruz campaign is basically saying that senator cruz has apologized for not later following up and saying dr. carson was back out on the campaign trail. but the campaign is essentially saying it should come as no surprise this was a news story. it's usual for a candidate to go back home to take time off the
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campaign trail. the senator himself saying, hey, these are my political opponents trying to make hay and i'm paraphrasing here, but kind of pointing to sour grapes saying they're try to misconstrue my position because i won iowa, basically. the problem is here's ted cruz to relitigate iowa and prefer to look ahead. one, might imagine, to new hampshire and south carolina. >> keep your eye on marco rubio. >> absolutely. coming up, finding her voice. hillary clinton trying to narrow the gap with young women overwhelmingly supporting bernie sanders in new hampshire and in my moment, president obama is expected to come into the briefing room to talk about the economy as those unemployment numbers showed up today. the rate falling below 5% for the first time since february of 2008 and job growth is up to 151,000 last month. you're watching a special edition of "andrea mitchell reports" live from jd's cabin in
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and welcome back. we are live clear in manchester, new hampshire. the day after the democratic debate on msnbc. it was a night filled with highlights. the biggest moment may have been hillary clinton calling out senator sanders. >> i really don't think these kinds of attacks by insinuation are worthy of you. and enough is enough. if you've got something to say, say it directly. but you will not find that i ever changed a view or a vote, because of any donation that i ever received. and i have stood up and i have represented my constituents to
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the best of my ability, and i'm very proud of that. so i think it's time to end the very artful smear that you and your campaign have been carrying out in recent weeks and let's talk about the issues. >> let's talk about why in the 1990s, wall street got deregulated. did it have anything to do with the fact that wall street provided it spend billions of dollars on lobbying and campaign contributions? well, some people might think, yeah, that had some influence. >> editorial column and "washington post" national political reporter karen tumulty. that was a planned moment. she was just waiting to spring on him after all of the comments on the road, the campaign ad in
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iowa targeting basically her speeches. and knowing it had an impact. >> the best defense is a good offense. she let him have it. it was telegraphed earlier with breakfast campaign manager. campaign contributions work in a more subtle way than that, but we'll talk about that later. >> he does seem to, karen, have a real appeal with this revolution, anti-wall street, anti-campaign, you know, campaign contributions from wall street. campaign finance reform. all of these issues and slogans are really reaching out to young people and it's striking to me that young women, more than 2 o9 are not responding to her recounting of the biography, the video they've been showing of
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all the things she's done over the years for women. >> well, this, first of all, a speech that took place in beijing and back in the 1990s really doesn't -- >> before they were born. >> right. >> it's not ancient history, i was there. >> this has been showing up, at least in my interviewing for months now. around labor day, i interviewed a bunch of bernie sanders supporters, young women in columbus. and one of them talked to me about how she had been so excited when she was 13 years old in 2008 for the prospect of a woman president. and she said, you know? 13 yearly me would be so disappointed with 21-year-old me, but i just am not feeling it. and the other thing about it is for younger women, it does not seem that much of a stretch that there would be a woman president. they don't feel the urgency, i think, the way that older women who have been through kind of
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the feminist battles do. >> everything that karen is saying is accurate. and yet, think about what hillary clinton's numbers would look like if women didn't have a right to vote. among younger women, yes, it is much closer than among older women of our age, if i dare say. but she still has a significant advantage, especially in the older demographic groups, but continuing on down the age range. hillary clinton does better with women than she does with men. >> when i look at the nationals number for her, they're still really strong across the demographic spectrum, among women. the smaller and younger women.
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really striking among the older crowd. >> what is your reporting showing you guys about disagreements, internal and otherwise? they feel like they had a strong debate performance, karen. but they know they came out of iowa with a mixed message and a lot of her long time women supporters were telling me that they feel she didn't sound authentic. she hadn't found her voice in those speeches. >> and it is interesting. because they believe the problem here for her, the challenge is with the candidate and the message that the organization performed quite well in iowa, so for instance, the other day, tim cain was suggesting the senator from virginia that she needs to come out with a message that is as clear as bernie sanders' is. >> it's a lot easier to have a message when you're talking about, the system is rigged. we've got to overturn wall
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street. that is a less nuanced message by definition. i want to show you something. barbara bush, known to her family as the silver fox. jeb bush called in his mother for help. >> i don't think the president would have ever shouted profanities in a speech with thousands of people and kids in a crowd. >> who did that? >> your buddy. all the time. >> i mean, unbelievable. i don't know how women can vote for someone who said what he said about megyn kelly. it was terrible. and we knew what he meant too, what he wanted. don't you get in his firing line. >> barbara bush talking to our good friend norah o'donnell on cbs about donald trump and the way politics have changed, we recall george herbert walker
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bush and barbara bush, you could have never even imagined trump. not a trump. >> first of all, good for barbara bush for speaking out and saying what we all know is going on there. i wonder though, about the wisdom of jeb bush. i'm sorry to say it this way, playing the mommy card. i am all for mommies, i'm pro mommy. but i am one myself. but he needs to look like a strong candidate. and i think he's going to get some from his rivals on deploying barbara bush there. she's very popular in the state. >> precisely because trump has been so effective playing the low energy bit and rebranding jeb bush. karen and ruth. it's great to see you. >> great to be here. >> thank you very much, both. and the head and the heart. which way will famously independent new hampshire voters go? we'll get some answers coming up next. we're waiting for president
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♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ i am kind of tossed. here, i'm all bernie, bernie and then at home, i have hillary hillary going on. >> there's a divide in your family. >> yes. sometimes i want to stick to my gut and be a bernie supporter and then swayed by my parents. >> the generational divide.
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here known for game time decisions. let's talk about the independent voters. there's a dynamic here in new hampshire. live free and die. famously independent, and you can register to decide where you're going to go. >> new hampshire famously does not like getting told what to do. and that's very crucial this week between iowa and new hampshire. and you may see, candidates lead in the polls but if they have a lead, that's almost not necessarily good because that expectation, that's a high bar to be set. but you're right. undeclared voters in new hampshire can go into the polling spot and take either republican or democratic ballot. that changes the dynamic and the way candidates campaign. >> now, if the traditional
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parties have a good administration, can they work to play the system aside from the legitimately undecided throw some support to bernie sanders for instance, at the last minute and try to hurt hillary clinton? >> absolutely. and if the campaigns have been putting the mechanics in place, this campaign really should have been working on this all through the summer. so identifying those undeclareds, seeing where they're leaning and if they lean for the candidate to go to the polls on tuesday. >> and what point do you think the deciders really do decide, the night before, the day of? what is your sense of the dynamic? >> i think a lot have the first choice and a second choice. i think many times, this final weekend is crucial. all the polls in 2008, they had barack obama leading and then hillary clinton pulled it out. what we look is what we call the new hampshire moment. when is that new hampshire moment going to take place? >> i think there were two moments, potentially.
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there was the sunday night debate on abc when barack obama looked sort of patronizingly at hillary clinton and said, i like you well enough, and then the next day in the restaurant when she teared up and got a little emotional, and how hard it is. that choked up. those two moments together, might have pushed women in particular toward her. zbli >> she's playing defense a bit. that may play to her advantage, actually. >> thank you so much. up next, paper trail, is hillary clinton going to release the transcripts of the speeches? you're watching live from jd's cavern on msnbc. if you're running a business, legalzoom has your back.
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breaking news, president obama talking about the unemployment report. >> it's now fallen to 4.9%. even as more americans join the job market last month. so this is the first time that the unemployment rate has dipped below 5% in almost eight years. americans are working. all told, over the past six years, our businesses have had 14 million new jobs. 71 straight months of private sector job growth extends the longest streak on record. over the past two years, businesses added more jobs than any time since the 1990s. most importantly, this progress is finally starting to translate into bigger paychecks. over the past six months, wages have grown at their fastest rate since the crisis. and the policies that i'll push this year are designed to give
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workers even more leverage to earn raises and promotions. so unemployment, deficits, gas prices are all down. jobs, wages, and the rate of the insuh insured are up. nearly 18 million americans have gained coverage and our businesses created jobs every month since obamacare and all of them, full-time jobs. so as i said in my state of the union address, the united states of america right now has the strongest most durable economy in the world. i know that's still inconvenient for republican stump speeches as their doom and despair tour plays in new hampshire. i guess you cannot please everybody. that does not mean that we don't have more work to do.
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there is softness in the global economy. china's going through a transition. europe's economy is still slow. a lot of the emerging markets are challenged. so that's all creating head winds for a lot of u.s. companies who do business overseas. and it's difficult to sell exports, so we've got to take smart steps this year to continue to progress. and we've also got to do more to make sure that progress that we do make is broadly based. and comebacking folks up and down the income scales. the budget that i send to congress on tuesday is going to make sure that we can continue that progress. talking down the american economy, by the way, does not make that progress. my budget's going to offer more opportunities for americans to get the education and job training that they need for a good-paying job. it will offer new ideas for benefits and protections that provide folks with the basic sense of security.
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it will create more good-paying jobs, not by subsidizing the past, but by investing in the future. that's why we're going to be placing a big emphasis on clean energy. private sector solar jobs are growing 12 times faster than the rest of the economy. and they pay better than average. that's one reason my budget is going to double our investment by the end of the decade to help businesses create more jobs faster, it's going to lower the cost of clean energy faster. it's going to help renewable power compete with dirty fuels across america in a more effective way. those are some of the steps that are going to make sure our future is even stronger. the future that's worthy of the hard work and determination of the american people. the progress we make going from 10% to down to under 5%, that's a testament to american workers, american businesses, the
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american people being resilient and sticking to it. my hope is that rather than hinder their prosecutingress bu them make progress. with that, have a great weekend. enjoy the super bowl. i'm not telling you my pick. because the bears aren't in it. but i'm hoping for a great game. with that, josh? is he back there? josh, take it away. >> you say you don't get enough credit. >> you know what? i'm going to take a couple of questions. why not? you know, just what the heck. i'm in a good mood, it's friday. go ahead. >> so you were implying yesterday that in a joking way, you don't get enough credit. >> this is when i was talking with the warriors. right. >> so were you again referring as you did just now to republicans and their message? which you could say could be expected during an election.
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but were you also referring to the fact that polls, like 57% of the americans in polls say they don't think that things are going well in this country. why do you think that is? >> at the time, i was making a joke with a basketball team. but there's no doubt that while we have made significant progress, and i talked about this during the state of the union, there's still anxiety. and concern about the general direction of the economy. if you look at some of the surveys, people feel better about their circumstances. their finances. but they're not sure about the future. and part of it is there's still a big carryover from 2007 and 2008. if your home value drops in half or you lose a job that you thought you were secure in or your pension suddenly looks
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vulnerable, you're going to remember that. and so a lot of people still feel that and they're right to recognize that there's some longer term economic trends that we still have to tackle. that the pressure on companies to maximize short-term returns oftentimes to the expense of long-term investment, the lack of loyalty sometimes to workers who built those companies and are threatened to be laid off. the fact that wages and incomes, up until both the last six months haven't gone up as fast as corporate profits have or benefits at the very top, all of those things, people feel and they experience. even though they know things are better, they're worried, where are we going? and i think, so i think that the argument i'm making here and will continue to make throughout
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the course of this year is we should be proud of the progress we've made. we have recovered from the worst economic crisis since the 1930s. the worst in my lifetime and the lifetime of most of the people in this room and done it faster, stronger, and better, more durably than just about any other advanced economy. had we adopted some of the policies that were advocated by republicans over the last four or five, six years, we know that we probably would have done worse and we know that because a lot of european countries adopted those policies and they haven't yet gotten to the same place they were before the crisis. so evidence, facts are on our side. and this jobs report gives you one more indication that the facts are on our side. i think that it is important for us then to understand how do we take the next step and make people feel more secure? and feel more confident about
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the future? and that's why investments in education and job training, going after the high costs of higher education, making sure that issues like paid leave and family leave are put in place. raising the minimum wage so if you're working full-time, you're not in poverty. making sure that we're investing in transportation, infrastructure, and clean energy. going after the jobs of future and investing in technology. those are a recipe for continued growth and increased security. and as far as i can tell, those who are running down the economy and adding to the anxiety don't seem to have any plausible coherent recipe other than cut taxes for the folks who have been doing the best in this economy and somehow magically, that's going to make other folks feel good. or alternatively, they argue
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that the reason you're feeling insecure is because immigrants or poor people are taking more of your paycheck, and is just not true. the facts don't bear that out. that's not where the weaknesses in the economy are. that's not what's depressing wages for middle class families or making them more vulnerable to disruptions in this economy and i want to keep on making that argument during the course of this year. we should feel good about the progress we've made, understanding that we've still got more work to do. it's sort of like, you know, i'm 54 now. so i've got to work out harder to stay in shape and, you know, if i'm feeling good in the gym, i want to acknowledge that what i'm doing is working. otherwise, i'll just go off and have a big double bacon cheeseburger or something because i think, this isn't
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working. if it's working, we should stay on the same path. that doesn't mean that i necessarily want to be here or stop, you know, doing some hard work to get where we need to go. all right? i was only going to make two. i'm just going to take two. go ahead. >> thank you, mr. president. how can you improve workforce participation levels because as much as people talk about the recovery, so few americans are now relatively speaking in the job force, especially compared to 2008, and if you wouldn't mind, sir, at least comment on the $10 per barrel fee that we've heard so much about. >> on the first question, part of what was good in the jobs report is the participation rate, in fact, didn't drop. that wasn't the reason why unemployment dropped.
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more people are entering into the workforce and what's true is that we're still at a point where the labor participation rate is lower than it has been historically. some of that is explained by demographics. the population is getting older. so you would expect that there is some decline, but it's not fully explained by americans getting older. some of this is still the hangover from what happened in 2007, 2008. and this is part of the reason why we have to keep our foot to the accelerator in terms of doing the things that need to be done to keep the economy growing and keep it strong. we should not let up from the progress that's been made so that the labor market continues to tighten, people feel more confident that if they go out
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and look for work, that they can find it. there are particular cases where some folks had just been out of the labor market for a long time, and may not be equipped for the jobs of today, and that's where we've got to target some special efforts. i get a lot of letters from middle age workers who got laid off. not confident about their current skills. and so have not yet reentered the workforce. they need to get retrained. so that's a special group, folks in their late 40s, early 50s. still far away from retirement, but feel like they can't adapt. obviously, there are young people, high school dropouts. folks in both rural communities and inner cities that just have come of age right in the middle of this terrible recession and
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haven't gotten attached to the labor market yet. we've got to make special efforts to figure out, how do we get them into job training programs or community college and allows them to get some skills. so there's a wide set of strategies we can take on that. but it's going to require overall though, a strong labor market for them to feel like it's worth it to make these efforts. and we want to keep making sure that the labor market is as strong as possible. with respect to oil and energy, i'll probably make a larger speech about that and the direction that we need to go on this. the basic proposition is is that right now, gas is $1.80. and gas prices are expected to
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be low for a while, the foreseeable future. that, overall, can be a good thing for the economy. but what is also important is that we use this period where gas prices are low to accelerate a transition to a cleaner energy economy because we know that's not going to last. every one of us have seen cycles where gas prices are going down and then they pop back up. the idea here is that if we say to oil companies, which, by the way, got a significant benefit when we, in the omnibus, allowed them for the first time to export oil, up until that point, domestic oil producers couldn't export. if we say to them now, okay, oil companies. we know that you're having to retool. we know that prices are low right now. you're allowed to export, but
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what we're also saying is that we're going to impose a tax on a barrel of oil imported, exported, so that some of that revenue can be used for transportation. some of that revenue can be used for the investments in basic research and technology that's going to be needed for the energy sources of the future. and then ten years from now, 15 years from now, 20 years from now, we're going to be in a much stronger position when oil is tight again. we will have further weaned our economy off dirty fuels and not just made environmental progress but also have a much stronger economy, a stronger infrastructure. we will be creating the jobs of the future, and i think we'll look back and we'll say, that was a smart investment. that was a wise decision for us to make.
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but the point is, it's right to do it now when gas prices are really low. and they will be low for quite some time to come, so it's not going to be a disruptive factor in terms of the economy. all right, okay, guys. of course, they always say something. i only said two questions. but i hope you have a wonderful super bowl party. thank you guys. >> talking about the jobs numbers. 151,000 jobs. sort of modest, lower than last month but at least stable and the unemployment rate down. the president leaves the briefing room. howard dean is joining me here, former vermont governor and a strong hillary clinton supporter front and center at the debate last night. we ask you about a couple of things that came up during the dbl debate. she asked if she would put to rest conflict of interests by
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releasing the transcripts that she had. >> there's nothing to the e-mails. drip drip drip. colin powell said so. the state department admitted these things were all reclassified after the fact. so my question is when is the media and her opponents going to stop attacking her personally? enough already. i haven't heard anyone else to have transcripts released it. i think it's a double standard. i think it's wrong and frank lirks burnly burns me up but i'm going after the media and what they've done to this person on the campaign trail who's going to be the next president of the united states is enough already. >> governor, let me ask you about that.
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she said last night she didn't in the debate she didn't realize she was going to be running for president. that sort of defies all for who watched us politically and made those paid speeches on the time she was on tour and those things. it's hard to understand why she took that risk. because some were to controversial sponsors. >> i'll tell you, i don't believe she did think she was running for president. i was part of a campaign to get her to run for president. i wrote an op-ed piece in december of 2014 because i was afraid. >> was she on the wrong side of the zeitgeist in the sense there was anger at wall street? you've got this populist economic appeal, including those should be part of her base with her history and track record. was it a mistake politically to
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show herself to be so closely tied financially to wall street? >> mentioned on "morning joe" the other day, i don't think she had done this and joe went and found out she had given speeches to colleges, for example, it turned out that money was either put up by donors and had nothing to do with the colleges and a lot of it was given back to the clinton foundation, which is a major charity, done great things for people all over the world. why does hillary clinton have to put up with the double standard? i don't hear anyone asking bernie sanders for his transcripts for some speech he made with the labor union and for bernie and to say he doesn't have a super pac, we don't go after labor unions but this is a double standard. i'm tired of the attacks. i think they're unwarranted and there has not been a single time in the last 25 years where the right wing gone after it and dutifully followed up the
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inquiry and not found one thing. none of this stuff. why are we talking about this? why are we not talking about the issues and what kind of a president hillary clinton is going to be? >> well, we're talking about it because bernie sanders has made it a campaign issue and he is her only opponent. it's an issue in this campaign and she responded to it last night. and most people think effectively in the debate. >> i think if bernie sanders wants to attack the integrity, that's up to him. that's a mistake. >> do you think that's what he's doing? >> of course i think that's what he's doing. >> and why do you think young women in particular in our new poll, by large numbers, young women don't seem to get hillary clinton? they don't seem to understand her role and her biography and they aren't responding to her as other generations. >> young people are idealistic and bernie is doing something that's valuable for the country. he is talking about issues that need to be talked about, putting
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issues on the table that other people in washington won't put on the table. and i think that's a very attractive thing. i did that when i was running. i put the iraq war on the table when nobody else did it and i brought tons of this whole generation in the politics as a result. so it's one thing to be an icon and to stand up and talk about issues that people need to talk about. that's a very valuable role. it's a different thing to be president and have to do something about it. and that's why i am for hillary because i think she'll do something about this stuff. >> you're a long-time observer of new hampshire politics. how do you assess this? we're four days out. she's 20 days behind. >> she's not. she's 9 points behind. she's closed 20 points in the last three day is day ifs yos i the three polls. never saw from 30 points down to 20 points down and 9 points, 50-41. i'm optimistic and looking
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forward to tuesday! she's be >> she's been trying to lower expectations. >> that's the fastest closing i've seen. can she win? i don't know. but i'm, you know, very pleased. very happy with what's going on here. >> and the appeal of bernie sanders seems to be cross-generational. he doesn't have the older people who seem to be supporting her, but got women in large numbers. that's another factor that seems surprising to a lot of people. >> bernie, in some ways, i like bernie sanders and his politics and i voted for him probably the last eight elections he's been in. i'm not here to knock bernie sanders but the attraction of bernie is he says what needs to be said which people in washington won't say. i remember my favorite saying when i was running for president is people say you made a gaffe because you told the truth and they don't think you should have, that's bernie's
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attraction. hillary, she has a lifetime of experience in foreign policy. >> do you think he has weak in that last night? foreign policy? >> i'm not here to criticize bernie but it was clear to me hillary knows foreign policy and nobody else does. not just bernie. bernie himself said, either one of them would be a hundred times better than the alternative on the other side, but it's clear to me that the only person who mastered foreign policy on either side of the debate is hillary clinton. >> howard dean, always a pleasure. here with this vigorous defense of hillary clinton. she's got a lot of surrogates like you to head to an event. >> i believe in her. i believe in her. >> a lot of women senators, gillibrand and others rallying around her today. before we go, i'm wearing red today to support the american heart association's go red for women movement. heart disease and strokes cause one in three deaths among women. this can be prevented through early detection and education,
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sanders in exeter, about to get under way as well where reehe's expected to pick up a big endorsement. donald trump was supposed to be head lining a rally right now but trump had to cancel that event. the only event he had planned here today due to the heavy snow still falling just four days before the primary. our new nbc news wuls journal poll is out this morning and take a look at the numbers. you see there, trump is still holding steady at 30% in new hampshire. but look to his side. there is marco rubio, whose leapfrogged over ted cruz into second place. now, on the democratic side, bernie sanders holds a 20 point lead over hillary clinton. nationally, two remain in a dead heat. dynamic reflected as they went toe to toe last night in the big debate sparring over who's the most progre

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