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standoff with the governor here and it changed the course of civil rights history, touching off race riots. it's the reason that part of this campus is designated as a national historic site. tomorrow a different kind of history could be made because we have moved to a new stage in this presidential campaign. primaries here in and michigan tomorrow after a dramatic weekend. let's look live at donald trump speaking in concord, north carolina. this evening he makes his second 2016 stop here in mississippi in madison. he has been hammer eight way at ted cruz and the candidate he says should drop out, marco rubio. >> little marco rubio. you know, he's a no-show in the u.s. senate. he never goes to vote. i'll tell you what, that guy, he couldn't be elected dog catcher
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in florida. >> looking ahead to the critical contests on march 15th. the question is will the ides of march be a day of reckoning for marco rubio as well as bernie sanders? here's a look at the latest delegate totals today. ted cruz won the delegate race this weekend narrowing trump's lead to 87. marco rubio is a distant third. bernie sanders won three of the weekend's four contests but hillary clinton picked up more delegates. today bill clinton is warming up voters in north carolina while hillary clinton and bernie sanders are both campaigning hard in michigan after that fiery debate in flint last night. >> i voted to save the auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto industry. >> if you are talking about the wall street bailout, where some of your friends destroyed this economy --
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>> you know -- >> excuse me. i'm talking. >> meanwhile, flags at the white house have been lowered today for former first lady nancy reagan. a lot of people asking the question what did she make of this raucous republican race. our msnbc political team is spanned out all across the country covering the next 2016 presidential contest. let's start with a new reality for republicans, a stronger argument from ted cruz that than he's ever had before that maybe donald trump can be beat. we continue to watch trump's rally in north carolina with both trump and cruz angling to make this a two-man fight. there is a growing drum beat as well for marco rubio to drop out. rubio had what has been described as a disastrous weekend, never getting more than 17% of the vote except for the caucus in puerto rico. that means florida is really do or die for rubio. let me bring in nbc's halle
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jackson, dovrg ted cruz campaign from washington, d.c. today. he's had a rough morning. he was supposed to be here in mississippi, canceled. now i understand has rescheduled, trying to ride this momentum he has coming out of the weekend. tell us what's going on this morning. >> reporter: just in the last half hour, chris, we learned from the campaign that crews will, in fact, head to mississippi this afternoon. he will be if florence. then he heads to grand rapids, michigan, tonight, trying to shake off a little bit of a sickness he's come down with on the campaign trail. we expect him out tomorrow too. cruz, you talk about this two-man race, both he and donald trump have been very explicit in talking about wanting this to be now head to head. why? what's the strategy there? well, the cruz campaign believes if it ends up cruz versus trump then cruz will end up with the majority of support from republicans who do not want a trump nomination. here's how he framed it in louisiana over the weekend. listen. >> head to head we not only beat
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donald trump we beat him resoundingly. we beat him by 16 points. and so i would urge every candidate in this race, if you have not had a pattern of winning state after state, then i would encourage every kand do it to prayerfully consider coming together and uniting. >> that message no names but very directly aimed at marco rubio and john kasich, who have huge contests next week in ohio and in florida, chris, where ted cruz plans to compete not necessarily to win, but to try to keep a lid on rubio, let trump take the 99 delegates and make this a head to head matchup. >> opening all those offices, a little intimidation factor in florida. halle jackson, thanks so you. those calls from marco rubio to drop out of the race are continuing to get louder. nbc's gabe gutierrez covers the rubio campaign. he's in tampa now, which is of course in the must-win home state of florida. so, gabe, bad showing for marco
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rubio on saturday. how's the campaign responding? >> hi there, chris. good afternoon. what the rubio campaign says, dropping out is not going to happen. they say they are in this to win this in florida and they view themselves as underdogs but claim that marco rubio has run underdog campaigns as they called it before in his earlier time here in florida. but as you mentioned, it's going to be a very steep uphill climb for marco rubio. he had a very difficult weekend on saturday, not finishing any higher than third place, even finishing in fourth place at one point. the lone bright spot was puerto rico, where he picked up 23 delegates and ended up with about 73% of the vote. he spoke to his supporters in idaho where he was campaigning yesterday about his win in puerto rico. take a listen to what he had to say. >> the island of puerto rico, i won 77% of the vote. i won that primary and the 23 delegates. in an open primary, where anyone can vote, not just republicans, democrats and independents, i
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got over 77% of the vote. >> reporter: of course that is just that lone bright spot pap lot of critics of the rubio campaign are saying that this is now a two-man race between ted cruz and donald trump and they're calling him to perhaps drop out again. the rubio campaign says that they hope that there could be something to turn this race around perhaps at the miami debate later on this week and they hope that some of these ads will begin airing against donald trump over the next few days will hurt that front-runner. but it remains to be seen. chris? >> gabe gutierrez, that is going to be a raucous debate too. thanks so much. appreciate that. i want to bring in msnbc political analyst elise jordan, former senior policy adviser to senator rand paul's presidential campaign. john bruce is associate professor and chairman of the department of political science here at ole miss. good to see both of you. wasn't that an interesting weekend? so this is a state, frankly, where there hadn't been a lot of
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potential previously. now, especially after what we saw this weekend, so much attention, pressure on marco rubio to potentially drop out. look at the latest quinnipiac poll. he's down by 16 points to donald trump. how different is this race, elise, on monday morning than it was going into the weekend? >> well, i think that it just shows that rubio really florida is do or die and it's looking like it's going to be die right now, frankly. he just isn't able to overcome trump there. cruz opening those offices is just a very bad sign that cruz is not going to follow the mitt romney strategy of letting rubio have florida, letting kasich have ohio. quite frankly, though, even if cruz hadn't opened offices there, i don't think that marco would have won florida. right now it's looking like it's trump and cruz. they're only separated in total votes by about 5%. it really is not that big of a margin in -- >> less than 100 votes. really narrowed that gap for delegate count. >> really narrowed. >> if you're on the trump
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campaign right now, are you nervo nervous? >> definitely. very nervous. i think last thursday's debate was bad for him. i think it started this trickle effect of republicans starting to question their flirtation with trump. i think it's going to be interesting to see how it's represented, especially tomorrow here in mississippi, and i know that's your expertise. >> let me ask you about that, professor. this is a state ted cruz felt he could make a play. he's going to be here later on today. give us sort of the sense of where we are right now in mississippi. >> in the past, mississippi doesn't get polled very often. we're a small state, not very interesting. the data we have shows that trump not that long ago had a 24-point lead. he won't win by 24 points. cruz in the last couple days, the week in the last debate, closed that significantly snop we saw that in louisiana. the polling was very different what it ended up being. >> but there are two features. trump appeals to the anger and the frustration and cruz has
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better credentials with conservatives and christians. which is more effective at mobilizing voters? >> this is nothing scientific. i'm a mississippi native and enjoy talking to people about who they'll vote for. john kasich is an interesting option but they're worried my vote won't count. why should i vote for kasich if my vote won't count. i find that interesting looking at michigan because there it could pay off. how could kasich see a little momentum just by being another option? i think rubio has hurt himself with his attacks on trump. >> perfect transition. less than to 20 minutes from now john kasich is set to take a stage at a town hall in gross point woods, michigan. his campaign wants a strong showing to give him momentum for his home state of ohio next week. earlier this morning kasich said he's keeping his strategy of not attacking trump. >> we're going to get some momentum out of michigan, we'll win ohio. then campaigni all across the
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country. very exciting. >> congressman greg harper represents the third district of mississippi and he's endorsed john kasich. good morning. good to see you. >> good morning. good to be with you and welcome to mississippi. hope you enjoy this beautiful day and come back again soon. i'll have to tell you that as i've listened saying that this was a two-person race, i just think that's not accurate at all pim seeing a lot of momentum and support for governor kasich here in mississippi, and i think he's going to do quite well tomorrow. there's a sense of excitement and the fact that if you just watch the debates, governor kasich has been the adult in the room. he's the one that's actually done what others are only talking about. >> but you have to admit that this has not been a campaign that has rewarded people who say they want to run a campaign too that's about being the adult in the room. that didn't help jeb bush and so far it hasn't shown results for john kasich, who hasn't won a state. >> well, he may not have won a
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state, but you can just look at some of the trends right now. he is trending up. and i can assure you that as we look at this -- and i hope those that are undecided, that aren't locked into a candidate, will look at who is in the best position to actually win in november. this is not about the primary. this is about who's the most electable in a general election. clearly if you look at those numbers cacic the best choice for that. and i think that people have been very turned off by the activities and actions of others during these last debates, and i think that will be rewarded at the polls tomorrow in mississippi and of course in michigan and other areas. >> over the weekend, his team outlined a strategy that did not include him winning. it was about going to the convention because no one had enough delegates to take it. so if indeed donald trump is able to pull out wins in ohio and florida then, is it game over? >> you would certainly have to
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re-evaluate if that was the case. i just don't think that's going to happen. i think kasich will win ohio, and it would be pretty clear at that point that no one's going to go to the convention with the necessary number of delegates and we'll have a convention that will be quite exciting. >> congressman greg harper, good to talk to you and thanks for having us to your glorious state. it really is beautiful here today. we'll ask you to weigh in on today's pulse question. is ted cruz the gop's best chance to beat donald trump? head to pulse.msnbc.com to vote. we'll head north for a live report next. and much more ahead from beautiful oxford, mississippi. stay with us. ♪
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in a long time pip voted to stave auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto industry. >> well, auto industry, trade, lots of different topics. but sanders didn't sound like someone ready to drop out of this race anytime soon. he did win states over the weekend, but he lost the delegate race. so today both candidates are looking to tomorrow here in mississippi as well as in michigan. that is a critical state for sanders if he wants to play catch-up. msnbc's political reporter kasie hunt joins me from dearborn where sanders will hold a rally less than an hour from now. reading the papers this morning i would say that the reviews tended to favor hillary clinton, so let's talk about the strategy for bernie sanders going forward, particularly in the critical state of michigan. >> hey, chris. be bernie sanders needed a strong night last night to try and capitalize on those state wins so that he can close the delegate gap because it is going
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to become more and more difficult to close that gap if he can't win in places particularly like michigan, which, of course, votes on tuesday. and that auto bailout thing seemed to catch him by surprise, that attack from hillary clinton. you saw him a little bit taken aback. and clinton's campaign is continuing on the offense. it was on in the lead of the stories in many of the michigan papers this morning. and they're already up with this new radio ad. >> on tuesday, march 8th, vote for the one candidate who stood up for the auto industry and came through for michigan when it really mattered. hillary clinton. >> sanders in a little bit of a tough spot on that, trying to hit back against that attack today at a rally in kalamazoo, saying that his position has been mischaracterized. of course that bailout money was part of the broader wall street bailout. it was included with some money
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that had to be moved through congress, and sanders tried to stop that money from moving both to those big banks but also to the auto industry. and on the debate stage, he seemed to conflate the two together including the auto industry in with corporate america, of course something he runs very strongly against. that's a tough pitch to make here in michigan where people really identify with those automakers and feel like they have helped sustain a lot of good manufacturing jobs here, chris. >> msnbc's kasie hunt, thank you. i'm joined now by ronald musgrove. he is the former governor of mississippi and he is supporting hillary clinton for president. thanks for coming out, governor. good to see you. >> chris, thank you very much. >> i think hillary clinton did land some strong punches last night, particularly on the auto industry, maybe not as strong when she talked about trade and bernie sanders keeps hitting her on her ties to wall street. let me just play another clip from last night. >> your story is for voting for every disastrous trade agreement and voting for corporate
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america. did i vote against the wall street bailout when billionaires on wall street destroyed this economy? they went to congress and they said, oh, please, we'll be good boys, bail us out. you know what i said? i said let the billionaires themselves bail out wall street. should .the middle class of this country. >> in the year of the outsider when she can seem like the ultimate insider, taking hundreds of thousands of dollars for wall street, has she countered that effectively? >> first of all, chris, what you saw last night is you saw two serious candidates talking about serious issues. they were passionate but they were respectful. it's quite a contrast from the food fight we saw at the republican debate last week. looked more like three children trying to pay the schoolyard bully with john kasich being the hall manager. what you saw last night is you
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saw hillary clinton provide a vision and also the ability to be able to get our wages moving forward, understanding the economy, and understanding what it takes for america to work, and i think that's what people are looking for. >> do you think, though, that the wall street money is a vulnerability for her? are the e-mails a vulnerability for her? >> i think the people have put those past and they're looking for solutions to difficult problems. they're antsy about the economy. they are concerned about they are uncertain. the e-mails and the inside wall street money is, in fact, inside for the beltway and for washington. i think people are much more concerned about what's going to happen to them in their everyday lives. hillary clinton is speaking to that. >> there's no doubt that the math seems to be in her favor, the geography, the delegate map seems to be in her favor. but bernie sanders really impresses, continues to impress with his fund-raising prowess. he announced over the weekend in february he raised $42 million
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from 1.4 million donors. he has 5 million donors, double the number of hillary clinton. what's the message to her in that? >> well, i believe that because of all the uncertainty, people are attracted whomever it is that can speak or shout the loudest. and in that, bernie sanders has attracted attention. however, in congress he has been able to pass three bills, two of which are renaming post offices. now he's asking us to trust him on developing or creating a plan for the economy? >> doesn't she, governor, have to find a way to bring those people in if she's really going to -- these are a lot of new voters, a lot of young voters. >> again, i think hessing some attraction with younger voters, urban voters, when you look at places like mississippi and other places across the country. people are more concerned about what is going to happen for the future? i think what she needs to do is
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to make sure she continues to talk about her vision and her plan and why she can get it done. most people do not believe that what senator sanders is talking about can actually be done. it sounds good, but he has no plan behind it. and i think ultimately people look to someone with a plan and who actually has the ability to get it done. >> going to get a big turnout tomorrow? >> we are. i think it will be a great day for hillary clinton and mississippi tomorrow. >> governor, thanks for coming in. i appreciate it. up next, nancy reagan's legacy and the impact it could have on the 2016 republican race. also still ahead, why the brother of slain civil rights leader medgar evers says he's supporting donald trump. when you think about success, what does it look like? is it becoming a better professor
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we want to take to you breaking news out of denver, colorado, where after 18 seasons, two super bowl victories, five mvp awards, peyton manning is holding a news conference to announce his retirement. let's listen. >> -- the saints but they also support their own, and that city and state have backed me from the start. almost 19 years ago to the day announced my decision to forego the draft and stay at the university of tennessee for my senior year. it was one of the smartest decisions i've ever made. i cherished my time in knoxville, especially my senior year. and i want ball fans everywhere to know the unique role that you played in my life. thank you to the indianapolis colts organization and all the fans across this country. you can't fathom how much i enjoyed my 14 years there or the warmth that my family feels for
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you. i'd be wrong not to mention jim irsay, bill polian, some great coaches, support staff, and a host of wonderful colts teammates, many of whom will be lifelong friends. when i was drafted by the colts, indianapolis was a basketball and a car racing town. but it didn't take long for the colts to convert the city and state of indiana into football evangelists. we ended my rookie season 3-13, demand the process i set the nfl rookie record for interceptions, a record that i still hold today. [ laughter ] every year i pull for a rookie quarterback to break that record. andrew luck, matthew stafford, eli manning, cam newton. i still kid eli that he would have broken it if he started all 16 games. in the beginning of my time in indy the team's struggles were agonizing. my grandfather would call me weekly to ask if his favorite
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announcer, john madden and pat summerall, would be broadcasting our game. paw-paw, i'd say, we're only 2-8. we're playing the 3-7 bengals. madden and summerall don't broadcast those kinds of games. second year, we were playing the dallas cowboys, including troy aikman, emmitt smith, michael irvin, and deion sanders. i called paw-paw. guess what? madden and summerall are broadcasting the game. he said i can't believe it. he was elated, and he was very proud, and we beat the cowboys that week and we let the world know that the colts had arrived. make no mistake about it, we were coming and we went on to do some phenomenal things like winning at least 12 games seven years in a row. and of course winning super bowl xli. and i was truly honored and proud to be a part of it. there's a saying that goes treat a man as he is and he will
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remain as he is. treat a man as he could be and he will become what he should be. went i visited denver four years ago, if john elway had sat me down and said peyton, here's what we're going to, do win over 50 games, four straight division championships, lose only three division games in four year and none will be on the road, we'll beat the patriots in two championship games, you'll win nfl comeback player of the year, another mvp, your offense will set single-season passing records, you'll break a couple more all-time records, and we'll go to a couple super bowls, i think i would have taken that deal. john, you did tell me that, didn't you? grateful is the word that comes to my mind when thinking of the denver broncos. i want to thank pat bowlen and his family, joelle lis, john elway, john fox, gary kubiak, and their staffs and all the support people in this great organization, to all of my
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denver teammates, thank you for what you've done for this old quarterback. and of course my gratitude to the broncos fans everywhere. over my nfl career, i've had five head coaches who have helped me become better at my craft and help me become a better human being. jim mora, tony dungy, jim caldwell, john fox, gary kubiak. while i've obviously changed teams i've had the same football remitation for almost two decades. i owe tom condon many thanks. he has represented me with class at every juncture and he'll always be a great friend. i want to thank a tremendous group of friends who have supported my football clear and been at my side at games from high school, to tennessee, indy, and through that incredible broncos super bowl win last month. you know who you are. >> peyton manning saying good-bye to an 18-year career. just two more statistics i will pint out. he had 14 14,000-yard passing seasons.
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he's the only quarterback to win super bowls with two different franchises. and now he is surely headed to the hall of fame as well as retirement. peyton manning getting emotional as he announces officially his retirement. now. now let's switch gears to remembering former first lady nancy reagan. reagan died yesterday in california at 94. funeral surveillances are planned for later this week. her son ron reagan spoke with "today's" matt lauer about how his mother was her husband's guardian in the white house. >> he always thought the best of everybody and particularly anybody who worked with him or for him. she didn't necessarily take that view. her view was more i'm going to watch and if i think you're good for my husband then you've got a friend for life, but if i think that you're bad for my husband or you're hurting him in some way, oh, you know, you better watch out. >> and joining me on the phone is former speech writer for
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president reagan, congressman dana rohrabacher of california. first of all, congressman, our sympathies at your loss as we extend our sympathies to the reagan family. i just wonder from your unique vantage point of having been a speechwriter for the great communicator, tell us about nancy reagan and her influence on wa you were writing for president. >> well, it wasn't just that i was a speechwriter for president reagan. i actually worked in his campaign -- well, first of all, in 1966 i was a youth organizer for reagan, but later on after i'd been a reporter in los angeles i recruited to be reagan's assistant press secretary and traveled with nancy and candidate reagan, we called him governor reagan at the time, for like eight months. i was living 24 hours a day and got a chance to see them up close. same in '80. then i went to the white house
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when he won in '80. so it's not just the time in the white house but nancy and governor reagan at the time had a wonderful relationship which carried on through his pd si. she was the ultimate stand by your man type of lady, and by the way, she had a lot of criticism because of that. at that time feminism was very aggressively attacking women who had that attitude. and i think that's changed over the years and mellowed where you have sort of a melding now of if you can stand by your man and still be a strong woman, then that's fine. but at that time she took a lot of criticism for it, and i think she was very -- as people would say, very loyal to her husband and that image was not something some people liked. >> she also was somebody who had great influence on him but also
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after the death of president reagan on things like alzheimer's research and stem cell research where she broke at the time with the sitting president. how do you think, given her many years as an insider, seeing things from that unique vantage point, how would she react to today's political climate? what would she think about what's going on right now in the race for president? >> well, i think the most important thing that she would probably think is that when she sees the debates and she would see, you know -- obviously i've been supporting ted cruz so i'm not saying this just in a political way, but a but she would be appalled at the lack of civility by mr. trump toward -- i mean, everything -- every time there's a debate he's insulting his opponents in the debate. reagan would never have dreamed of that. nancy more than anything else was someone who demanded a sense
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of propriety. in fact, i think one of her greatest accomplishments, i know she's a lot of credit for policy influence, which i don't think she had, i think that's being way overplayed, but what she did, when reagan was elected president, we all got to the white house together and the white house was a mess. it was a total mess and the standards had gone down, and she brought -- for example, there wasn't even a full set of dishes for formal dinners at the white house when you have international guests coming in. she made sure that she brought dignity and a sense of propriety back to the white house. and that type of influence that she had was making sure that things were done properly was very pervasive, and today she would have been horrified by some of the nasty things that are being said by mr. trump.
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>> congressman daniel rohrabacher, thanks for taking the time to talk with us. we appreciate it. >> all right. god bless you. thank you. >> thank you. up next, we head down to the gulf. nearly 330 miles from here to catch up with msnbc's caliperry. what have you got for us? >> reporter: hey, chris. we're here on the docks near biloxi, looking at how that trump message is getting traction. more on that in a few minutes on msnbc, the place for politics. ♪ i love to take pictures that engage people. and to connect us with the wonderment of nature. the detail on this surface book is amazing. with the tiger image, the saliva coming off and you got this turning. that's why i need this kind of resolution and computing power. being able to use a pen like this. on the screen directly with the image. it just gives me a different relationship to it. and i can't do that on my mac. this is brilliant for me. ♪
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in the nation in terms of the poverty nate. caliperry is in pass christian, about a 5 1/2-hour drive away from me. he's been talking to people about the primary and election day and what's important to them. hey, cal. >> reporter: good morning. this is a way of life here, each of these bags about 150 pounds of oysters. this goes on all day as they unload the boats. we're trying to get a sense of how that trump message is getting such traction, especially here in the south. that was obviously true in louisiana. and when you talk to people here you get a sense that they don't like many of their the republican field, certainly don't like the tone, and because they don't like the tone they're willing to give donald trump a chance. take a listen. why is he best for mississippi? >> why? >> reporter: yes. >> because he's a self-made man, wasn't just giving something, wasn't born with a silver spoon in his mouth, worked for everything he has. everybody else should do the same thing. simple as that. i have to go back to work. thank y'all. >> reporter: one of the
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interesting things here, chris, and this was true also in louisiana certainly over the primary weekend so, much early voting in the favor of donald trump. we do know that ted cruz is supposed to do an event here later tonight, he's cancelled that saying he's not feeling well. it will be interesting to see if trump can make similar gains on the day of voting as he does in the early voting. chris? >> caliperry in pass christian, thank you so much. tomorrow both democrats and republicans will head to the polls here in mississippi. bernie sanders crushed clinton this weekend in nebraska and kansas, but he still hasn't shown the ability to win minority voters in southern states. in addition to that, he won fewer delegates yesterday. for republicans it's all about survival for marco rubio who lost big this weekend for super saturday. three guests join me now.
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good of you all to come out. joe, not a lot of great polling here. what's your sense on the ground of where the republican race stands? >> we had a poll late last week that showed donald trump at about 41%. i think the second place was ted cruz, marco rubio about 17%. >> do you buy that? do you think it's that much of a run-away for trump or has it narrowed since then? i think he's got a significant lead probably or did. i believe poll was probably pretty accurate. i'm not sure about this week. the trump people nonideological. i believe they're for him because he's different, not the normal politician, and a lot of people that are against him are against him because they're worried about him losing the general election. they feel like a lot of the problems romney had he has even worse with hispanics or being able to reach out, things like that. it will be interesting to see what happens. because of that, the trump supporters are hard to maneuver one way or another. it is a small correction. i believe where senator cruz -- >> he is going to come back.
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feeling a little better. >> a different location but looks like he will be here today. >> that shows you how important he thinks this is, professor. let me play for you something that mitt romney had to say over the weekend because he has been one of the leading voices in this stop trump movement. let's play it. >> are you comfortable supporting john kasich, marco rubio, or ted cruz? any one of those three candidates against donald trump? >> absolutely. any one of those three is a real republican. donald trump, on the other hand, is someone who represents something entirely different and in my view is not at all the real deal. >> we did see a change in some of this polling over the weekend. louisiana turned out to be a lot tighter than they thought it was going to be. when you look inside some of the exit polling, it seemed like he was losing evangelicals. do you think the race on the republican side might be closer than that poll might have indicated? >> i think the last seven days have been tough on donald trump, but it's not clear --
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>> have people like mitt romney made a difference? do you think their message is resonating? or are they just part of the establishment that people are sick of? >> it's not clear how much clout mitt romney has the with the primary electorate right now, but among people voting for trump, can he move any of them? i'm not sure those people are responsive to mitt romney. i think among people who didn't like trump already, he's pretty effective. not sure how much it changes the balance. >> things were feisty last night for the democrats. robin, what's your sense of how this race stands with the democrats? >> well, i think from a local level and from a mississippi level i think that hillary is certainly far ahead in the polls and i think that she will have a great showing tomorrow. i think that mississippians are very supportive of her proven track record, and of her christian faith. i think that maybes a difference to mississippians and i think they'll turn out for hillary tomorrow. >> actually a question that was asked last night for both of them about how their religion
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played into their public policy. let me play a different part of last night's debate. >> if you're going to talk, tell the whole story, senator sanders. >> let me tell my story. you tell yours. >> i will. >> your stories is for voting for every disastrous trade agreement and voting for corporate america. did i vote against the wall street bailout? >> if everybody had voted the way he did i believe the auto industry would have collapsed, taking 4 million jobs with it. you talk about corporate greed and gun manufactures sell guns to make as much money as they can make. >> one of the things we've seen that's interesting, professor, is how the republicans have been able to turn the enthusiasm for trump into record voting, not so on the democratic side. we see bernie sanders setting records for the number of people who are giving individual contributions in many cases and certainly he's got double the number of contributors that hillary clinton has.
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where do you see the enthusiasm? and what do you expect for turnout here tomorrow in mississippi? >> expect the democratic side turnout will be average, not exceptionally high, not low. sanders is effective because he can be purely idealistic. his answers to a lot of the questions were absolute not we will do this, we will never do this. clinton's answers were much more pragmatic, we'll do this but we can only do part of it, and that's not a very exciting answer but it's probably a realistic answer. >> on the republican side, if there is a big turnout, is it going to be because of a person or because of how much money people make here, the economy, the poverty issue? >> i think republicans are more excited and less down about some of the discourse and a lot of people think, sure, we'd like for some of the comments to be less personal and more substantive. we'll be runs against a
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candidate. the two choices on the democrat side are liberal and socialist and their likely candidate nominee is someone who gets tripped up on whether or not she lied to the american people or not. hillary will be formidable, but at the same time we're excited about taking her on and having the opportunity to nominate somebody and finally get behind it. the good thing is most the people i've heard have said, look, we'll support the nominee no matter who it is. as chairman of the party, that's one of the most important things to me. >> joe, robin, bruce, beautiful ole miss. can i say how nice everyone has been and how welcoming? thanks for coming in today. >> thanksing if br here. >> when we come back, i skeel the 93-year-old brother of murdered civil rights icon medgar evers why he believes donald trump is the best candidate for president. and let's check out the question we've been asking you on our microsoft pulse question today. is ted cruz the republicans' best chance to beat donald trump? keep weighing in at pulse.msnbc.com. it takes a lot of work... to run this business.
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i've got to ask you given the things donald trump has said, he's waivered on the kkk and david duke. he has offended some people with his use of the phrase "the blacks". your support of him is raising a lot of eyebrows. why did you decide to endorse donald trump? >> first of all, he's a businessman. and i think every elected official should know business to provide service for the people they serve. we in mississippi are one of the poorest states in the nation. the catfish capital of the world. and we have to send our catfish to china to be processed. to me that doesn't make sense. why should we have a catfish processing plant here in mississippi? maybe donald can help us to do that. i'd also like to see donald trump bring one of his casinos
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to jackson. we need jobs here. he's a man that shoots from the hip. he doesn't have written speeches and all that kind of stuff. he didn't get where he is by sitting around on welfare. >> reporter: i'm curious if you think the things he's said, or in some people's minds, not said in not always denouncing david duke, is not always denouncing the kkk, and saying he didn't really know about white supremacy groups, does that concern you at all? does it at all smack for you of racism? >> not really, because let me tell you, most whites in this country have a problem with black folks, and you know that. but he happens to be one that speaks up for it. we blacks have a problem ourselves with some. in chicago last year, 500 people were killed by blacks. in mississippi, january 9 of
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this year, over nine were killed by blacks. talking about who cares about who, it doesn't matter. he's going to be president of the united states, and i hope that we can get to use him to serve all of us and not just black and white folks. >> reporter: i know you plan to attend trump's rally in madison, mississippi later today, and you became a republican and endorsed ronald reagan. i think his family would point to him as a gentleman. you strike me as a gentleman. are you at all worried about the campaign and things that donald trump has said and the way he said them, mocking other candidates, referring to things that would never before have been used in a presidential campaign? or some would even say impolite society. >> firstly, i don't agree with everything trump has said. i don't like the negative stuff he or any of the candidates are
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saying to each other. but i think he's the man that's for us. when i say us, i mean mississippi. i'm hoping he can help us get some industry here and folks some jobs. that's what i'm looking for. and i just don't think all of us should be democrat. what have they done for us? >> reporter: 93 years young, charles everest. thanks so much for taking the time to talk to us. we really do appreciate it. >> you're welcome. that is going to wrap up this hour of coverage from ole miss. on campus here in ox ford, mississippi, i'm chris jansing. i'll see balk here at 4:00 i eastern time. my colleague thomas roberts picks this up live from tampa, florida. thank you, ole miss!
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hi, everybody, i'm thomas roberts, and good afternoon. we're at the columbia cafe here in tampa. this is the oldest restaurant. everything on the menu is good. it's here in the garrison channel in tampa. it is allegedly known for being a home with some pirate history. so the garrison pirate festival is huge here in tampa. right now it's all about the parade of politicians come to go catch voters before super tuesday. marco rubio coming here today scheduled to speak just beyond the riverwalk about three hours from now. is the home state senator defenseless to two gop rivals who carry an outsider message, or can he fend them off and secure 99 delegates from florida? and if rubio loses this state,
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will he drop out, making it a three-man delegate contest? today he continues his attacks on his rivals. >> they convince many people, probably thousands of people, to vote for lying ted cruz, okay? and actually -- and rubio is worse. and rubio is worse. i mean, this guy is such a scoundrel. you look at his past with his credit cards, you look at the driveway he built with funds that don't belong to him. you look at what cruz did, i tell you what, what he's done, i can't believe he got away with it, but we'll expose it. >> in the primaries over the weekend, trump is leading cruz wi by just eight delegates. in our marist poll, trump is leading in michigan by 19 points. on the democratic side, right now bernie sanders is getting
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ready to take the stage at a rally in dearborn, michigan. despite taking three caucuses and primaries over the weekend, sanders still trails by a number of delegates. this after two key primaries in michigan and mississippi, clinton has a double lead in michigan and the new polls shows demonstrating tightening in this race. a heated debate where clinton slammed sanders on the auto bailout. that i t take a listen. >> i'll tell you something else senator sanders was against. he was against the auto bailout. i voted to save the auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto industry. i think that is a pretty big difference. >> well, if you are talking about the wall street bailout where some of your friends destroyed this economy -- >> we have our team of reporters fanned out across the country
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following all the campaigns and the development of this historic race. we want to start with the gop frontrunner, donald trump. he wrapped up a rally in concord, north carolina roughly about 40 minutes ago, and he continued to go after marco rubio. >> little marco rubio. you know, he's a no-show in the u.s. senate. he never goes to vote. i'll tell you what, that guy, he couldn't be elected dog catcher in florida. >> nbc's katie tur joins me by phone now. she's covered the trump campaign since the very beginning, and she's live in madison, mississippi ahead of the rally, or maybe you're enroute there. let's talk about the trump campaign getting hit hard by the gop establishment, the anti-trump crowd. i know here in florida, the airwaves are filled with these anybody but trump ads. how are they reacting to it? >> reporter: the campaign is fighting back, thomas. what donald trump is doing, he's using a platform at his rallies to hit back against marco rubio,
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hit back against special interests. he's also using twitter, talking about special interests on twitter, reminding his voters that the ads are being paid for by special interests and trying to remind them he's still funding his campaign, millions being spent on negative ads on this second super tuesday states coming up in the next few days, in the next week. and donald trump so far is trying to push back on it by using what has been a very popular call for him, the call that he is not beholden to those special interests. but note this, there are groups spending money against trump. they are also spending money in michigan, although trump is still ahead in most of the polling that is there. it is a close race seen from the outside. basically split with cruz over
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the weekend. many are saying this is really a two-man race, between ted cruz and marco rubio. so expect to see him talk about ted cruz as well, but florida is up on tuesday, so marco rubio is zeroing in on his targets. thomas? >> katie tur, thank you very much. hallie jackson covers the ted cruz campaign for us in washington today. the cruz campaign takes a little time off, so you get a rest, sort of, in washington, d.c. >> i never sleep, thomas, remember. >> i know, we can always get you. let's talk about the momentum that the cruz campaign has coming out of the weekend and the fact that they can now talk about trump's inevitability and if that is vulnerable. >> reporter: it is shaping up to be a two-man race. let me tell you, though, within the last couple hours, cruz did add late adds to his schedule, so he'll be in florence, mississippi this afternoon and
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then over in grand rapids, michigan. those popping up in the last two hours. cruz feeling a little bit under the weather, but his campaign feeling like they want to capitalize on this momentum coming out of super saturday. cruz looking at michigan, and maybe mississippi, and on march 15 hoping to essentially put a lid on marco rubio in florida. those 99 delegates, the campaign feels those end up going to trump, or they're hoping to obviously win florida outright. that is looking very unlikely showing trump at 38, rubio at 30, i believe, so closing the gap there, and then cruz down in, i think, 17%. so the campaign maybe not winning outright, but at least if they can try to keep those delegates from rubio, ultimately they will have a two-man race. that is what they wanted all along, remember, for weeks now. ted cruz has been talking about this as a two-man race. marco rubio has been in the mix, but the campaign feels if they can get it to a head to head trump versus cruz, then those
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anti-establishment folks will come over to ted cruz and help get enough delegates to nail down this nomination. thomas? >> hallie jackson reporting out of washington. thanks som much. i want to bring in gabe gutierrez covering the rubio campaign here in tampa. while he didn't have a super saturday, he kind of had a special sunday. because puerto rico in prit mar -- the primary, he was able to nab that. >> thomas, i don't know how you were able to do it, camping out in florida with this wonderful weather while the rest of us have been in michigan. >> the strategy has worked for me. >> rubio has tried to gain as much momentum as he possibly can despite this disappointing weekend where he wasn't able to win anything on saturday, where the best he could finish was third in most states, fourth in another state. he was able to pick up those 23 delegates in puerto rico, and he will be in florida later today at a rally here in the tampa area, and then orlando later tonight. sarasota tomorrow. the key for the rubio campaign,
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they feel, will be this i-4 corrid corridor. he's expected to do well. he's from south florida. trump is expected to do well in northern florida. but he was asked about the status of his campaign on saturday night while he was campaigning in puerto rico, and here's what he had to say. >> everybody that's running asks for somebody to drop out so they can do better. except for me, i never asked anybody to drop out. there will be more delegates awarded in florida than any states combined. the state of florida is important. we'll leave with more delegates than we had yesterday. >> the call is growing louder for him to drop out of the race, from donald trump, from his critics who say he only managed two wins in this entire primary season, how can that be a winning campaign? but now there's a lot of money coming from those anti-trump sources, $18.3 million in
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florida alone, attacking trump in the campaign. they will respond and say, we are in this in florida. we will not drop out of the race, we will win florida. maybe wishful thinking at this point, but they do think this debate later on this weekend in miami, maybe he can turn things around there and get this to stick. >> so are you hearing from the campaign that if they're not able to capture florida on the 15th -- >> if we talk on and off the record, they will come back and say, we will win florida. again, i think it's wishful thinking. they come back and say, we will win florida. they hate the hypotheticals. with marco rubio, if he doesn't win florida, it's hard to see how he has any path to nomination, those 99 delegates, winner take all. >> he'll be down the riverwalk from us at the convention center, a stone's throw from where we are right now. gabe, great to see you in person. thank you so much. joining me now is rick tyler, former national spokesman for
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form former ted cruz's campaign. he's on the board with bhminnesa and puerto rico, but there are calls for rubio to drop out. do we have to wait and see what happens here in florida? >> even if he wins florida, he'll still be third place in the delegate count. it makes it difficult for him to move forward. the only argument he could come up with is he could win a brokered convention. a lot of people want to see a brokered convention. i wouldn't want to except for the sheer stek pectacle of it, marco rubio is going to face a tough day tomorrow. it doesn't look like he'll win any of the four states tomorrow. both trump and cruz look poised to pick up some wins and some delegates. he's got to spend all his time in florida, because if he doesn't win florflorida, there really isn't a case for him to go forward. he'll do well in southeast
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florida where he's from, which looks a lot like the northeast. he won't do well in the western side of the state which looks more like the midwest. in florida, the more north you go, the more south it becomes, so that's where ted cruz and donald trump could do some damage there. so it's going to be a tough row to hoe in florida. florida is a very expensive state. >> we just spent five days on the ground in the panhandle at pensacola beach, there was some support, less for rubio. but now we have the media here flooding florida, we have the conservative club for growth with this $2 million alibi going to florida there. take a look. >> which presidential candidate supports higher taxes, national health care and the wall street bailout? it's donald trump. >> in many cases i probably identify more as a democrat. >> reporter: trump wants us to think he's mr. tell it like it is, but he has a record, and
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it's very liberal. >> do you think this is actually going to help donald trump? some people say, okay, you've thrown a rock at him with these anti-trump efforts. other people say, he's a marshmallow and it's only going to help him. >> for the people who support donald trump, i don't think it will help, but for the establishment republicans and other republicans, do they want to see trump as a nominee or not? look at mississippi, look at louisiana. louisiana, the late voters went for cruz, the early voters went for trump, so trump seems to be facing sort of a reversal of fortune here. we'll see if mississippi behaves like late louisiana and see if cruz has a shot there. i would look for cruz to do well in idaho as well. but when we get to florida, that's going to be the day we're going to find out what kind of race we have or whether we are going to go to a brokered convention. >> so mississippi, 28 delegates proportionally at stake
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tomorrow. remind everybody in 2012 it went to rick santorum. good to see you. >> thanks. the primary here on the 15th. how important the i-4 corridor is for democrats and republicans. we'll talk about the strategy of this area with tampa's mayor, and it's going to be a game changer if john kasich can take over the primary victory in ohio next week. we'll take a look at his strategy with kasich's spokesperson at this hour. by all accounts, there was a love story of ronald reagan and nancy reagan. it was really one for the ages. we'll talk with the former press secretary to the first lady about the famous couple. when you think about success, what does it look like? is it becoming a better professor by being a more adventurous student?
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i know this is going to be a very tough election, and if i am the nominee, i'm going to want better ha bernie's help and bernie's supporters' help to work with him to make sure we are number one keeping those issues front and center on the top of the nation's priority. and number two, to work with him the way i supported president obama when i dropped out back in 2008. >> so there we have hillary clinton just a short time ago cautiously confident that she will become the nominee, hoping to enlist senator bernie sanders and his supporters. so that puts the pressure on bernie sanders to pull out a win in tomorrow's primaries in mississippi and michigan. michigan, where clinton leads in a new nbc wall street journal marist poll by 17 points, it carries a critical 147
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delegates. will the odds be stacked against bernie sanders with the car industry? >> i voted to save the auto industry. he voted against the money that ended up saving the auto industry. >> if you are talking about the wall street bailout where some of your friends destroyed this economy -- >> you know -- >> excuse me, i'm talking. >> nbc's kristen welker is in detroit for us. kristen, as we look at those numbers coming out of michigan, and now we know clinton has hit a soft spot, an achilles heel, with that bailout vote, how is sanders seeing that as an opening? >> reporter: well, the sanders campaign responding quite forcefully today, and of course last night he didn't really make the points that he probably wanted to make that he's making today. he's saying, look, he supported the bailout, he just didn't
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support the broader t.a.r.p. bailout program, and he's pushing that quite forcefully. he just held a gaggle with reporters. take a look at what he had to say. >> it suggests that when you vote against a bailout of wall street and against the crooks on wall street who destroyed this econo economy, suggesting i voted against the auto industry bailout and disingenuous and incorrect. perhaps good politics tends to be just incorrect. >> reporter: the clinton campaign coming out strong today as well. they are releasing a new radio ad. and if you need any proof of how much this type of an issue resonates here, just think back to 2012 when president obama was taking on mitt romney. he used this issue and the fact that romney opposed the auto bailout to win the western states like ohio, for example. this is really do or die time for senator sanders. he has to win a state like michigan to prove he can win these larger, more diverse
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states, and this is one of the states that really should be within his reach, because you have such a wide swath of working class voters who should take to his message about economic equality. so the sanders campaign says, look, they think they have a shot here even though you see secretary clinton with that 17-point lead. both campaigns think the margin might be closer. we'll have to see if that's the case, but the stakes couldn't be higher here for senator sanders, because when you get a state like michigan it means you are viable for other states like ohio and illinois. if secretary clinton wins, it would satisfy her idea for the frontrunner. >> thank you, kristen, great to see you. back in tampa, i have bock buck ho buckhorn, who is the mayor of this great city. thank you for having us in your beautiful town. >> thanks for being here. >> let's talk about what we're looking at on the left. bernie sanders did great in kansas, also in nebraska,
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struggling with minority voters in the south. do you think hillary clinton can take advantage of that because of what florida represents in the demographics? >> i do. bear in mind, this is where presidents get picked, this i-4 corridor from orlando to tampa. it's the ultimate swing area. the demographics almost line upper effectually. >> purple. >> absolutely purple. but if you look at the minority in the election, probably 30 to 40% of it will be communities of color. that is obviously secretary clinton's strength. i anticipate she'll have a great day in florida. >> we know early voting began this weekend. it began monday, last week, in certain areas, but statewide it kicked in this weekend. how do you think that will be a help toward secretary clinton? >> it goes to history, it goes to deep roots here in florida. she's been our friend here around 25 years. people know her. she's spent a lot of time here. she and her husband have been factors here for a long time. i think when you look at early voting, even though
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african-americans tend to vote on election day, you see a big surge in early voting. i voted early on saturday, and i think a lot of other people did as well. i think senator clinton is in good shape. >> you're not alone. about a million people voted early in florida, tampa being the third largest city in the state. we know marco rubio is coming to the convention center down the riverwalk in three hours' time. you say you've never met him, you've not had much experience with marco rubio? >> i'll tell you, he's been the senator for three years, i've been the mayor of this state, i've never met marco rubio. >> never met him. >> never met him. he's not taken the time in washington, d.c. or tampa. >> have you taken the time to try and meet him? >> i have. i've been in washington and met his staff. one would think if you're the sitting u.s. senator of the state of florida that you would have taken the time to meet the mayor of the third largest city in the state. >> when you think about how donald trump is doing so well in
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the state of florida right now, do you think that marco rubio -- he's based his campaign basically on winning florida -- from what you're hearing from inside the state, do you think he can pull it off? >> i'm not sure. certainly there is a lot of momentum for mr. trump. senator rubio is struggling. we've seen his performance in the last couple events. he has not done well. he's staking a lot on florida. my sense is mr. trump is going to win and i think this will be the last stand for senator rubio. >> florida has gotten the republicans the last three times? >> we have. >> if the polling is correct, who do you think will take the state? >> i think secretary clinton. i think the state will wake up as it narrows down to the final two, and the idea of a donald trump presidency goes against everything we are as americans. the world is watching, and i think we need to understand that decision is going to reverberate across the world.
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marriage. we've had a great life. a great life. and i was very blessed to find him. i really was. >> that was nancy reagan discussing her marriage to former president, her husband, ronald reagan, the former first lady passing away yesterday of congestive heart failure. she was 94 and will be buried next week beside her husband at the ronald reagan presidential library in simi, california. we expect more news this hour that will provide plans about that memorial. it was earlier today that president obama ordered flags to be sailed at half staff in honor of her memory. he talks about the time he met nancy reagan. >> i had the opportunity to meet ms. reagan once. obviously she was already
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advanced in age, but couldn't have been more gracious and charming to myself and michelle when we first came into office. as somebody who has been lucky enough to have an extraordinary partner in my life as well, i know how much she meant, not just to president reagan, but to the country as a whole. he was lucky to have her. and i'm sure he would be the first to acknowledge that. so she will be missed. >> joining me now on the phone is sheila tate. sheila served as press secretary to the former first lady nancy reagan. sheila, thanks for joining us. first i want to pass along our heartfelt condolences to you for losing mrs. reagan, who i know was a friend of yours, someone that you have known closely through some really tough times. and as we talk about those times, sheila, she received some really harsh criticism when she was first lady. earlier today, ron, their son, had a chance to speak to matt lauer about that criticism. take a listen.
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>> it was tough for her in the white house because there was a lot of anger that could have been directed at my father, but my father was a person who was almost impossible to dislike as a human being. some of the anger, i think, that might have been directed at him, you know, under other circumstances ended up going her way. and she was a little more, let's say, complicated a personality than he was. and it was -- she made an easier target. >> sheila, as you think back on that eight-year period of time for nancy reagan and the white house, was she personally wounded by that criticism, or was she as tough as we perceived her to be? >> i think it was somewhere in between, to tell you the truth. i think ron is expressing what was a common sense at the time that there was kind of an
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overreaction to her, overnegative reaction to some of the things she did, because you have to stop and think that what people didn't like was that she ordered new china, or as president reagan called it, new dishes, and that was paid for by a private foundation. she had -- she spent a large amount of money refurbishing the white house, and that was all private funds raised through individual donations. i can tell you a little funny side story to that is that i worked for many years after i left the white house with jodi powell. we had our own firm, and he said, you know, sheila, i really hated it. she made it sound like we left chicken bones behind the couch. and i said, well, there were a few problems. there really were, there was a lot of stuff that hadn't been
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done for 30 years in that place. and she was a perfectionist. she knew she was going to get heat, but she thought it was important enough to do it and she took the heat, and we moved on. >> sheila, when you think about the relationship that nancy reagan had with ronald reagan, was this a love affair and a marriage famous for opposites attract? >> well, i mean -- i think it's more that they had complementary personalities. what he needed she had and vice versa. i don't think it was opposites so much as just they each had different talents, and they complemented each other. >> they have such a love story that everybody can look at and try to replicate. what's the one memory or one word that you would have of your
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time with nancy reagan that you say captured it best? >> privilege. it was a true privilege to work for such a fine person. >> and the history books of the work that she's done after the white house, what do you think nancy reagan was most passionate about, what she wanted her legacy to be, beyond being first lady? >> i think she wanted to see how much she could do to influence the research into alzheimer's disease as well as specifically forward the cause of stem cell research. >> sheila tate, former press secretary with former first lady nancy reagan. sheila, thanks so much, and we do now have the press conference taking place, the details of nancy reagan's funeral. let's listen up. >> -- closed to the public.
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it most likely will be televised, so that information will be forthcoming. invitations for the funeral will be going out immediately, so the next couple days, actually starting tomorrow, we'll notify the media who is coming, who is part of the program, who the pallbearers are, things of that nature. in ways the public can show their respect, we're allowing the public to come up two separate days at two separate times to come to the library to pay their respects to mrs. reagan while she lies in repose in the library. those times are this friday night from 1:00 p.m. to 7:00 p.m. and this thursday on march 10 from 10:00 a.m. to 2:00 p.m. all the information will be on our website, reagan.com, of how to do that. there is a southpa parking lot about two miles down the road. people can park there and be shuttled to pay their respects. no backpacks.
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strollers will be allowed on the premises but not in the lobby in and of itself. more information will come out during the week. >> we're hearing there from one of the people at the reagan library making announcements for the viewing where nancy reagan is going to be lying in repose coming up march 9 and march 10 as well. it will be a private service, but we're hearing there is a potential for it to be televised. nbc's joe freyer is following this. joe, what are you hearing? is there more about the potential for it being a televised funeral service? >> these are the first details we're getting. we were kind of expecting it would happen on friday with the way things are going this week, with the fact there is a huge debate on thursday. we figured it would be friday here at the presidential library. we do still expect to hear more details about who will be there,
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who will be speaking at t things like this. there is a public portion of it. the presidential library has been closed since yesterday. it will be closed all week. it's not going to reopen until after the funeral, but they're telling us they're looking for ways members of the public can come and pay their respects. first thing in the morning a number of people were coming here to the library. we saw parents bringing their children, some of those children holding flags and flowers because they wanted to learn about nancy reagan and ronald reagan and teach their children to pay their respects. so this will offer an opportunity for those families and for mourners to come here while she's lying in repose, as they said, two times that members of the public will be able to come here, wednesday from 1:00 to 7:00 west coast time, and then again on thursday for a few hours. thomas? >> nbc's joe freyer reporting at the reagan national library in
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simi valley. thank you, joe. appreciate that. we'll give you more details as we get them for what it means for the service to be shared via tv and our coverage of that. we shift our coverage and focus back on what's taking place on the campaign trail. we have ohio and governor john kasich campaigning in michigan today. his campaign wants a strong showing there to give him some momentum going into his home state next week. just moments ago, kasich addressed the state of the race in michigan. >> i think we have momentum, and we see all these national polls. we'll do better than what they're saying, and we're rising. most of them were taken before, from a long time ago. i think we'll have a good day here. >> joining me now is trent duffy, national spokesperson for the kasich campaign. trent, good to have you here with me. kasich says he'll have a strong showing in ohio. it shows john case case is in
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third place with 21%. how does he have to perform tomorrow to keep his chances alive for ohio? >> he's got to perform well and he's going to perform well. we have an excellent ground game in the state of michigan, and we really do have some momentum fueled by the governor's excellent performance in thursday's debate in detroit where he really separated himself in leadership from the other three candidates. we have an endorsement from the governor of michigan. our campaign manager is from michigan. we know the state well. as our governor was saying, we're starting to see some overflow kind of crowds in the state. we feel good about where we are tomorrow. we're in a statistical tie. a poll was out earlier showing us actually in the lead, so we'll see what happens. we feel good about tomorrow in michigan. >> no one going into the state has enough wins, however, if trump wins in ohhig -- cruz win
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ohio, it is over. >> that's why we want to get the governor to his home turf. we'll see what happens on the 15th. we feel great about where we are in ohio but increasingly good about where we are in michigan. >> the look being at the delegate counter, it looks like ted cruz could be the one currently best positioned to be the anti-trump candidate. if cruz is the alternative to donald trump, would kasich support him? >> well, the governor said on the debate stage on thursday that he will support the event w eventual nominee of the republican party, because they say hillary clinton may be the
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likely democratic nominee. as we get into primary states west and across the country, which is not his home turf, we don't expect him to continue to do well in those kind of states. our strategy has always been about getting to the midwest, doing well there and going forward. that's what we're staicking to. >> trent, as we look at the convention rules for the nomination, the rules require the nominee to have eight states to get the nomination. for the campaign itself, what eight states can you be guaranteed that kasich will win? >> well, it starts with ohio. he came very close in vermont, and we'll continue to wrack up states as we go. if senator rubio doesn't win pl florida, it really does end his path to the nomination and we'll see where things go from there. as you can see, kasich has more momentum because as he gets to the debate stage, as he gets more time to show the american
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people and voters about his record, economic growth, job creation and the like, people are really starting to support his candidacy and know that he is the best person not only to lead the country but to defeat hillary clinton in november. >> trent duffy, national spokesman for the kasich campaign. thank you for making time for me today. i really appreciate it. >> thanks, thomas. appreciate it. > >> so florida looks like it could be a make or break state for marco rubio. he's confident he's going to pull out the state, but the monmouth university poll shows he's behind trump by eight points here. politico shows one of the ted cruz's superpacs are trying to take him out. cruz wants to be a rubio spoiler here, and political analyst soucie mcmanus joins me and editor of the times. marco rubio, do you think he can win in florida? and if not, does he get out of the race? >> you've seen in some of these
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early states that have voted so far that trump has lost some ground for late deciding voters, so that's a good sign for marco rubio. on the other hand, we've had more than a million votes already cast and there's been no sign of a marco rubio campaign until just about a week ago going after those early voters. >> so, susan, what does it say about him losing in his home state right now? especially after we look at how early voting as favored other candidates that that could be a situation as we speak that marco rubio is losing florida? >> i think it has to do with the fact he's put a lot of emphasis in the early states, hoping he can break out there and seal the deal. >> has he taken us for granted? >> absolutely not. i think the ads that are up right now are really helpful to him, and there are a couple things that could make. and the second thing is if they were to run ads saying he still
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does well against hillary clint clinton. and last-minute deciders are a little bit more strategic. >> chris christie, who endorsed donald trump, is talking to supporters now about the abt movement. >> i think his destructive will ultimately become ineffective. i think history will say this is ineffective. [ inaudible ] >> i have to leave all options on the table. let's leave all options on the table. we don't have an agreement yet so all options have to be on the table. >> so chris christie saying people are going to fail with these anybody but trump ads. back to my panel with susan and adam. susan, let's just talk about the
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geography with the i-4 corridor and how impactful this typically is through cycles, through primaries and generals. >> where we are right now, tampa bay, that's going to be a quarter of the vote in the general election and the primary. no accident that marco rubio is here in tampa today, and he'll be in sarasota which is part of the same media market, tomorrow. it's key. >> when we think about numbers, 83% white, 14% latino, 1% black, 1% asian. then 69% conservative, 15% moderate or liberal. who has those markers? >> this area is a strong vote for possibly kasich. he may do better here than other places. rubio. certainly trump will do well here as well. this is the most competitive in terms of always being the swing vote in the election. so you got a little bit of everything in the tampa bay
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market. >> everybody wants this prize. everybody wants to say they were able to win here. >> susan, thank you so much. adam smith, political editor of the times. susan mcmanus, thank you so much. we're going to talk about the latino vote and whether or not that will help marco rubio beat donald trump in florida. he had success in puerto rico. will that rtransfer to anything here with the rubio campaign? check out the results of our pulse question today. that being, is ted cruz the gop's best chance to beat donald trump? 80% say yes, 20% say no. we'll get back to that in the hour. all eleven models come standard
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welcome back, everybody. we're looking at bernie sanders. he is at a rally right now in dearborn, michigan, a day ahead of the polls opening there for super tuesday, and he faced some criticism at last night's democratic debate where he gave a remark about race and poverty. take a listen. >> when you're white, you don't know what it's like to be living in a ghetto, you don't know what it's like to be poor, you don't know what it's like to be haf hassled when you walk down the street. >> got some criticism about that, and an hour ago, he met with reporters trying to clarify that comment from the debate stage. >> what i meant to say is when you talk about ghetto traditionally, what you're talking about is african-american communities. >> so we're going to keep an eye on that rally. again, bernie sanders is in dearborn, michigan right now. if he brings up those remarks
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and that clarification once again, we'll dip back in. but back here in tampa, we're going to talk about the florida politics and what's at play here. because the candidates are continuing to court the voters here in florida, and the latino graphic of florida voters could play big in next week's primary. patrick is the editor of lagaseta newspaper here. 26.5% of people are identified as hispanic according to the kren succe census data on this. the i-5 corridor is essential, but it's not just needing to capture this area, it's an indicator for the white house, because it's a better indicator for the general, isn't it. >> it's such a mix of people that it's an indicator for the whole nation when you start to look at the breakdown of all the young and all the different groups. even the word hispanic here is
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more diverse than it is in southern california or even miami where you're dominated by cubans a lot. here you have a mixture of everything. >> so when we think about marco rubio and the performance he's going to have in dade and broward counties with latinos, could that be replicated here? >> no, i don't think marco rubio has been popular with latinos as he has in southern california. but i don't think you'll see his numbers with that group be like hillary's with black women in south carolina. i think trump is going to erode a few of those numbers. >> trump is leading over rubio 38% to 30%. he was able to capture a win in puerto rico. i was reading up on this area and there's been an influx of people moving from the islands to this area looking for better
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economic opportunities. do you think that win in puerto rico can help connect him a little bit better to the folks that are living around this area, that it could help him secure a better performance here? >> it could, although i would say your demographic of hispanics here is probably a little richer than that of puerto rico. generally when they've been coming here, they've been performing democratic, the puerto ricons have, in florida. orlando, osceolla, around disneyland in that area. >> is there one main issue for the folks in this area that is the concentrated issue for voters? >> i don't think so. i think you have to give latins respect, you have to talk to them about everything from immigration to how their kids are doing in school to the economy. i don't think there is one issue. i think it's just meeting and greeting and saying hello and letting them know you want their vote. >> patrick, thank you. i appreciate it. we'll be back in a moment.
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