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not everyone gets the message. that's when the trouble gets serious. that's hardball for now. tune in 11:00 p.m. when i'll be back with a post-debate show about republicans in their face off in miami. monday, watch our hardball town hall with secretary hillary clinton. "all in" with chris hayes starts now. tonight on "all in." violence at trump rallies getting worse. >> next time we see him, we might have to kill him. >> an arrest is made and the man assaulted a eed at a trump camp vent is speaking out. a female reporter is roughed up. >> no one wants to be touched and violated. why ted cruz is evolving his convention talk. >> a contested convention is a different thing. >> a revealing new twist. >> i do not have the same policy
as the current administration does. president obama responds to the question, are you responsible for donald trump. >> i've heard this argument a number of times. >> tonight the president's author and why liberals share the blame. >> i've been blamed by republicans for a lot of things. good evening from new york. i'm chris hayes. the protesters who was viciously elbowed smashed in the face at a donald trump rally is speaking out. while the assailant facing criminal charges told the tv show, quote, the next time we see him, we might have to kill him. 78-year-old john mcgraw was arrested this morning and charged with assaulting jones. jones was being escorted from
the trump rally when he stepped toward him and attacked. mcgraw said he had no regrets. >> did you like the event? >> you bet i liked it. >> what did you like? >> knocking the hell out of that big mouth. >> he deserved it? >> every bit of it. >> what was that? >> yes, he deserved it the next time we see him, we might have to kill him. >> he said we don't know if he's isis and he might be with a terrorist organization. on msnbc this afternoon jones and his friend who shot video of the incident discussed what happened. >> the guy hits the guy in front of the police, behind the police, on the side of the police and they throw him down and tell him to sit back down. he finishes eating his popcorn. it's just -- it's crazy that you get pretty much almost arrested because you got assaulted. that's just not -- it's insane. it's insane. we're the first people thrown out at -- he just came out. this is the first 60 seconds,
two minutes of him being there and we're the first people thrown out. at this point he's telling him, he's like go home to your mother. go home to your mother. then the crowd, they enamored with it. >> the trump campaign only gave us one statement. it's four words. they said we not involved. what would you say back to the trump campaign. they say they are not involved. this isn't their problem. >> i mean, i'm pretty sure heard him, sound pretty involved to me. he was saying tell me to go home to my mom. >> i want to read a quote from john mcgraw. he's the man accused and arrested for hitting you. he said, you bet i liked it. clocking the hell out of that big mouth. he's been arrested. you want to see him go to jail? >> yeah. i want justice.
reality is, he'll probably be bailed out. somebody will probably reward him. >> events at the trump rally in north carolina follow a series of incidents where protesters face threats and shoving, spitting, things like that at trump rallies with a wink and a nudge, if not more from the candidate himself. >> there's a guy totally disruptive throwing punches. we're not allowed to punch back anymore. i love the old days. you know what they used to do to guys like that when they're in a place like that. they would be carried out on a stretcher. he's walking out like a big high fives. i'd like to punch him in the face. if you do, i'll defend you in court. you see somebody throwing a
tomato, knock the crap out of them, seriously. i promise you, i will pay for the legal fees. i promise. i promise. >> pressed on whether trump will pay the legal fees of john mcgraw, the man who sucker pu h punched jones. the campaign said we're not involved. they said it takes significant measure to ensure safety and discourages physical contact with protesters. there's another new incident in which the trump camp can't deny involvement. it involves the campaign manager in claim he assaulted a reporter at a press conference on tuesday. michelle field, former fox news contributor and reporter at the conservative website breitbart said she was asking trump a question when she was jolted back ward, grabbed by the arm and almost thrown to the ground. a witness identified him. fields allegations provoked a
crisis for the employer who has been one of the most stallworth defenders which issues a rather tepid state suggesting he may not have been the perpetrator. brightbart took the stronger stance. it's beyond pathetic breitbart had to be shamed. he went on the attack. taking to twitter to deem fields an attention seeker, suggest she's a liar. this despite an audio recording that while not definitive supports the events. writing that i guess these just magically appeared on me. so weird. daily beast reported that he had acknowledged man handling fields to an editor and explained he
didn't recognize her as a reporter mistaken her for an adversarial member of the mainstream media. sources said corey had had an extremely aggressive relation with the media. we have known his ir rational anger would not be a liability. there's no signals that the one time reality star plans to deploy his famous catch phrase. all this comes as conservatives and republicans consider the possibility of a contested nominating possibility to deny him the nomination even if he has the lead. they find themselves having to factor in the possibility of mob violence from trump supporters if they try just that. one trump advisor said that if trump comes to cleveland with a lead and the establishment tries to deny him, his delegates will
burn the place down. erick erickson warned of an outbreak of physical violence. they would watch trump supporters pour gasoline across the convention floor and strike a match. joining me is staffer writer for the atlantic where jones was attacked and wrote a piece on the lurking menace of a trump rally. tell me what it felt like in the room. >> it felt strange and a bit uncomfortable. there's this whole sort of tension in the room and a lot of people who are very angry about a lot of things. in the course of this you have, there were 18, 20 instances of protesters being taken out. i didn't see the punch being thrown where i was sitting. every one would get up with a sign or shirt and stand. police would swarm toward them. while this is going on, trump is making fun of them. he had a punch line for most of them and everybody is jeering and yelling at the folks.
>> have you been to a political rally like that? >> no. i've never been to a trump rally like this. it felt a bit different. >> the trump campaign makes the argument we cannot control our supporters. this man has nothing to do with us. thousands of people come to trump rallies and the vast majority are totally peaceful. do you buy that? >> i think it's true that most of them are appeaseable. i'm sure i go with the idea they're not in control. he said last night, in the old days this wouldn't have happened. people would have handled them very roughly. we have gotten weak which sounds like an invitation to do something that isn't weak which is to haul off and take swing. >> it's been amazing to watch. there's this back and forth about the spectrum mob violence in cleveland and a debate about it. this is something you factor in when you think about a contested
convention. have we really sunk this low. have we gotten to the point where we have to factor in the possibility of violence. do you feel like there's an air of menace that's growing? it's not some sort of side show but central to what's happening here? >> yeah. i think very much that's the case at this trump rally. even outside the rally when we got out there there were a bunch of protesters. some of the attendees circling around them. it felt like there was a riot about to break out. it's a tense atmosphere. if people are transmitting their anger about the political system to individuals. >> that's a bridge that is a very dangerous bridge to cross. >> absolutely. >> david graham from the atlantic, thank you so much.
enjoy it. joining me now charlie pierce. charlie, i want to talk about the endorsement that trump is about to get from ben carson. i want to ask you about this. i was talking to someone, two gentlemen that are veteran political organizers who talked about the last campaign that felt like this was '68. they said '68 there was so much action in the streets and so much mayhem happening across america in variety of different ways. the campaign was interplaying with that. it feels like the mayhem is in the campaign itself. >> the '68 analogy doesn't hold because it really wasn't coming from the podium. it was coming from richard daily who controlled the police and the hall. that's how dan rather got roughed up. if you want a historical analog, i would go back to 1964 when the goldwater people took over the
campaign. norman mailer said this was a convention murderous mood. i think we can all say that's not too far off from what we're seeing now. >> today, there's news that ben carson will be endorsining dona trump tomorrow. let's play a bit of what trump had to say about ben carson when the two of them were vying for first in iowa last year. take a listen. >> he said he's pathological. he said he has pathological disease. there's no cure for that. if you're a child molester, there's no cure. they can't stop you. pathological there's no cure.
he said he was pathological, okay. >> i guess on some level it's not that surprising to find that carson will kiss the ring. there's something depressing about this. >> i think we are obtaining the event horizon on campaign grift right here. ben carson is taking what's left of his reputation and tearing it up into small pieces. this is more embarrassing than chris christie. i didn't think -- i thought that was the bottom of the barrel. i'm beginning to think that maybe there is no bottom to this barrel. >> when we talk about what's happening as this undercurrent of menace, these actual instances of violence. the bullying of the press and the lying about it with no
consequence. they are lying about it. i will say that on air. they're lying. they've been lying about a lot of things. that's been obvious and clear to anyone that reported anything out that for all the never trump folks that there's going to be a whole lot more ben carsons and chris christies as we go forward. >> there's no question about that. they will fall in line. a lot of people who are making the most noise about hashtag never trump will fall right in line especially if hillary clinton is the nominee. there's no way they can stop themselves. they've been working up an abandoned wrath against her for 25 years now. they can't turn it off. >> do you think there's any possibility, we don't have a republican debate, that we'll see someone. last time they pledged they would vote for the nominee no matter who it was. do you think anyone will make news by retracting that?
>> no. i think cruz will tap dance around it. your best chance is rubio because he's not nothing to lose at this point. he could take out a cream pie and hit trump in the face with it and it wouldn't cost him or gain him any votes. if you want a long shot, i would say he would do it. >> i think he should. thank you very much. all right. coming up, a preview of the last republican debate before a potential knock out round. the most telling moment from last night's democratic debate. later president obama has thoughts about the idea that his presidency is responsible for the rise of donald trump. you'll want to hear those stories.
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he reaffirmed why he's committed to the unprecedented move of denying the president's nominee even a hearing. one republican in the room d deviated from the talking points. >> we're setting a precedent here today, republicans are, that in the last year, at least of a laying duck eight year term, it would say it's a four year term, that you'll not fill a vacant seat of the supreme court based on what we're doing here today. that's going to be the new rule. i'm very much supportive of what you're doing. i don't think you're doing anything wrong but i want the members on the side know if we lose this election, my view of what the president to come will be able to do is the same. if it's hillary clinton or bernie sanders and they send over a qualified nominee, i'm going to vote for them in this committee and on the floor. i think that's what the
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it's the great hope of the republican establishment. it's how they are drowning away their sorrows. they say have a brokered convention and all these crazy voters will go one way and we'll step in with our money and we'll anoint our white knight to ride in and save the day. that's not going to happen. >> ted cruz speaking out against the idea of a contested convention a few weeks ago. last week on the eve of the
final republican debate before yet another super tuesday primary bonanza. he appeared to change his tune a bit. the texas senator who was in second place argued while he's opposed to a brokered convention, he said he might be amenable to a contested convention. >> a contested convention is different. if no one gets 1237 and you have two front runners, reagan and ford battled it out. if you're fighting between the candidates who have earned the votes of the people and it's the delegates at the convention who have been elected to do that, that's the way the system works. . >> it seems like the cruz camp
isn't taking anything for granted. earlier this week the national review posted a story cruz was set to unveil endorsemented from four or more of his senate colleagues. new york times put it mr. cruz is so unpopular that at one point not a single republican senator would support his demand for a roll call vote leaving mr. cruz standing on the senate floor with a man with bird flu. the national review corrected its reporting on his multiple endorsemented. an earlier version said the cruz campaign was set to unveil four more endorseendorsements. today the number is unknown. senator mike lee came out to endorse mr. cruz and said he could encourage marco rubio to drop out.
welcome. my understanding is you are supporting ted cruz now. >> i am. >> here's the charge. it seems to me that the best chance to stop donald trump is for people to rally around ted cruz. that's one line of thinking. the other line of thinking is everyone stay in and win the states you can. which of those do you adhere to? >> i think should everyone should unite behind ted cruz. not just because he's the best chance for beating donald trump, although i think he is. he's the conservative in the race who has shown he can run a great campaign. he's had his character tested. he's proven to be a great candidate out there. i think it's time we pick ted cruz as the guy we're going with. it's what carly said earlier this week. i agree with her.
>> tonight's the debate. we saw team up of by all the contestants. rubio and cruz on donald trump. do you think we'll continue to see that tonight? >> i think that you'll continue to see donald trump's record brought out to light. he doesn't have much of a record. he doesn't know his health care plan and then he does and takes it back. i expect we'll see more of that from donald trump. i think ted cruz will show he's the conservative in this race. the people of texas trusted him. i think you'll see why tonight. >> do you think there are rubio people who are mad that cruz is contesting florida. they are saying in contesting florida what they are doing is acting as a defacto adjunct to donald trump because rubio is the best chance to beat him.
ted cruz sink moneying into florida. he's paving the way to trump's tom nation. what do you think of that? >> i think the rubio campaign has enough to worry about. they probably shouldn't start messing with other candidates. so far theirs hasn't been working too well. >> do you think that ted cruz can win a general election? >> i do. i think hillary clinton is a formidable and flawed candidate. i think when her record is brought to the front, contrasted with someone who has high numbers, keeping his word. i think hillary has a real problem. >> i think formidable and flawed is correct. ted cruz is someone whose politics, i think he's right when he says he's the true conservative. those politics are just not shared by a majority of american
voters. he also seems like someone who every single person who is interacted with him in his professional life has basically come away not liking the guy, which doesn't seem like the best personal quality when running for president. >> it was a lot in there. let me try to unpack it. on the first issue, i don't think you're giving voters enough credit. voters are smart. i think voters will see that ted cruz's policies will lift people up and policy for a positive future for country. i think hillary clinton's policies we have tried for the last eight years and not a lot of people are happy with them. i've known ted for a decade now. ted is a wonderful person. i think that americans will get to know him in a general election. >> the approval rating for the
highest since 2013. he's considerably high favorables. to the extent the conservatives go into this election thinking people don't like the last eight years, they will have a hard time winning. thank you for joining me tonight. appreciate it. >> thank you. coming up, why hillary clinton is creating some daylight between herself and president obama. that's next. stay connected. am i seeing double? no ma'am. our at&t 'buy one get one free' makes it easier for your staff to send appointment reminders to your customers... ...and share promotions on social media? you know it! now i'm seeing dollar signs. you should probably get your eyes checked. good one babe. optometry humor. right now get up to $650 in credits to help you switch to at&t. [bassist] two late nights in blew an amp.but good nights. sure,music's why we do this,but it's still our business.
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if you're asking about everyone here, the 11, 12 million here, my priorities are to deport violent criminals, terrorists and anyone who threatens our safety. i do not have the same policy as the current administration does. >> you blink last night, you might have missed one of the most revealing moments of the entire debate when hillary clinton distanced herself from president obama's deportation policy. not only did it seem evident she was running to preserve his legacy. it seemed to be both a political commitment that things would be okay and to preserve her standing and cultivate her support with black voters while co campaigning throughout the south. what we saw last night was not a
calculation based on region but rather constituencies who aren't as on board with certain parts of the agenda including the issues of deportation. if you blinked, you missed it. because of this period of going through the debate where she wielded the president as a wedge issue against bernie sanders very effectively. that one moment made me realize we're in a different phase of the campaign. >> i think the democratic party is in a different phase. the center of gravity shifted. it was the first time, i believe, hillary clinton came out against deportation of children. we saw it in michigan where
she -- a few months ago she distanced herself from the president on trade and trade has emerged as one of the central issues of this campaign. it will play out in the next week this those industrial heart land states. you've written about the system failures of elites. for too long the washington elite, the beltway consensus has been free trade. >> i think you've seen throughout the campaign and it's been more subtle than last night that where hillary clinton does differ. where she stops hugging him, it's been to move to his left. >> that is true. >> she'll fade to left on trade. never to his right. on immigration she's doing the same thing. she said she would be more aggressive on doca.
>> those are president's actions on protecting people from deportation. >> children and parents. >> and children who were brought here very young. in florida there's an interesting nuance. you have seen the very hispanic groups both cuban americans and puerto ricans who have aligned with mexican americans. they are all moving in the same direction and becoming more like other hispanics. >> we saw this formation of identity that's been happening. i think it happened, my favorite exit polling data from 2012 is mitt romney lost asian americans by 70 points. why would that happen? what is the coherent, a filipino nurse in connecticut and fourth generation in san francisco. we're seeing on the immigration
debate is the white backlash politics of republican party creates this sort of counter effect. >> one of my former producers who is indian american, he said they are quite conservative on social issues. they used to lean republicans. they say we're next. we don't want to be on that team. >> let me say something i think there's an area where bernie sanders has more in common with president obama in terms of sensibilities which is foreign policy. sanders and obama, by instinct, are less interventionist. they are more restrained. they don't want to police the world. they want to rebuild home. she criticized the president, the secretary of state position -- >> don't do stuff.
>> don't do stupid stuff. do no harm isn't a bad u.s. foreign policy principle. >> here's what's interesting to joy's point. i totally agree with you. i hadn't thought of it in that way. she goes do his left on domestic policy. the reporting that we have about her behind closed doors on foreign policy it's to the right. that's not been something she's highlighted on the campaign trial because katrina is right about where the poll says. >> one of the main reasons she did not become the nominee of the democratic party was iraq. >> just a week or so ago
endorsed sanders but came out for a less interventionist against regime change. >> she's not running for president. the real scandal is not what fox purveys. >> i thought that was a perfect moment. bernie sanders responded by saying there's an article in the new york times about it. wait a second. he said there's an article this new york times and it was like move on. he didn't make the case. >> you're not going to get any argument from me. i think bernie sanders has not used the opportunity to lay out an alternative foreign policy. i think a lot of democrats, people, citizens seek. he didn't do it last night. i also hold the moderators of these debates accountability. >> i think it's also true that bernie sanders is not articulated foreign policy as a
thing that's important to him. it comes across clearly he has one thing important and that's raining in wall street. it comes across this is not an emphasis for him. >> they believe climate crisis is one of the great security challenges. >> that is true. when you talk about the questions, one of my favorite questions was chucke todd's question about afghanistan like what are you going to do. very hard to articulate in a 30-second answer. thanks so much for joining us. coming up, in case for some reason marco rubio is out of race next week, we wanted to make sure we paid him do homage and reviewed his book.
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every single poll out of florida this month had marco rubio losing his home state to donald trump. american dreams are restoring economic opportunity for everyone hit book shshelves ove year ago. we never got around to reading. >> i believe the most creative and innovative nation on earth is qualified to lift the poor by putting americans on a path to prosperity and self-sufficiency. i hate this thing and i never want to do it again. imagine the opportunities that will open up for the american
people when it restores hope. imagine the growth will have a jobs and the jobs will have a growth. imagine the opportunity that will open up once everyone has opportunity. friends, it's just that easy. this is the ideal marco rubio book. you can't find a big idea in here. you can't also find in the chairman of commerce pamphlet. he adds the words creative and innovate to them. his big anti-poverty idea is it's single parent households. who knew two income households help prevent poverty. he uses the same study rick santorum's book did correlating single parent poverty rates. could be be deep institutional structures. it's the marriage thing. don't read the book. within a few days, there probably won't be reason to any way.
>> this monday on the eve of the florida primary, we'll be in marco rubio's hometown broadcasting live from the bay side marketplace in downtown miami. you do not want to miss it. still ahead, as democrats and republicans try to figure out who exactly is to blame for donald trump's popularity, president obama responds to the suggestion that his presidency had something to do with it. his remarks, ahead. i've been claritin clear for 14 days.
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with donald trump inching closer to the presidential nomination, there's a lot of finger pointing going on about who is responsible for his unpredictable rise. liberals like to accuse the obama error. many conservatives blame president obama himself and for paving the way for trump. today, the president answered that charge at length during a joint press conference with a visiting canadian prime
minister. >> i have been blamed by republicans for a lot of things, but being blamed for their primaries and who they are selecting for their party is novel objectively, it's fair to say that the republican political elites and many of the information and social media, talk radio, television stations have been feeding the republican base for the last seven years, a notion that everything i do is to be opposed.
that cooperation or compromise somehow is a betrayal. that maximalist on pollutions are advantageous. i don't think i was the one to prompt questions about my birth certificate. i don't remember saying why don't you ask me about that. and, so, what you're seeing within the republican party is to some degree all those efforts over a course of time creating an environment where somebody like a donald trump can thrive. >> now, that's the president's account of what's happened. there are liberals who contend that liberalism, itself, contributed to the rise of trump
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this. >> it goes back to inequality and to the sort of larger question of the relationship of the the democratic party with the working class, specifically the white working class. this goes back to the 1970s. it's a story i trace in the books. the elite democrats decided they didn't want to be the party of working people. that's not what they were about. this took a long time. they were the most established elements of the professional groups in in america.
that was pretty funny. i like the marco rubio book review. a lot of language that rubio was quoting you find the exact same kind of thing in democratic books about the creative class and innovation. >> let me give you a counter narrative. you sort of talk about the abandonment of white working class and the takeover of the democratic party as the sort of professional class obvious . that's not the base of the party. >> that's the problem. there in lies the problem. >> the other case people will say, no what happened is the white working class decided they did not want to be in the party of civil rights. this was a decision that was made not from the top down, really the point is the democratic party became forthrightly basically starting with lbj and in the era of obama the party of non-white america.
>> maybe so. we can actually, and in the book i specifically pinpoint where the democrats made this decision. it wasn't that. it was vietnam. this was the issue that broke the democratic party. martin luther king was doing things in conjunction. here in new york -- >> it was famous moment. >> there was a riot in favor of the vietnam war. it was between '68 and '72 and the democrats decided to read labor out of their party. in some way it was a di
disasterous move. >> you have a situation, it's a very complex argument but you have a situation that my favorite description of the trump voters is like in chemistry, free floating electrons and in comes the physical force of trump like draws them into his orbit. >> i like that. they can't all be bad people. i think trump is a demagogue and a buffoon. i don't think we can dismiss all of his followers that way. when i watch the footage of these giant crowds i think back to an incident for me. i was in decatur, illinois.
this is a left wing moment. you can -- it's all in the book. >> read the book. >> you'll like it. it's why the democrats failed. >> let me endorse the idea they're not all horrible people. i have talked to a lot of supporters. the guy socking people in the faces -- >> of course. that's insane. >> thank you for being here tonight. that is "all in" this evening. rachel maddow show starts. thanks to you at home for joining us this hour. chris is right. boy, do we have a lot to get to tonight. we, on this show, this hour, have an interview with hillary clinton, the leading contender for the democratic presidential nomination and we will be joined by elizabeth warren. senator warren looms large in our politics as