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donald trump behind the podium when a protester make their voice known, said get him out of here. he and chris christie trying to change the theater of what has happened this week. my colleague, andrea mitchell is here. taking over coverage and the trump campaign announced that florida, an event with governor sarah palin has been cancelled. she was supposed to campaign for donald trump in florida. that's been cancelled now. we don't know exactly why, but the trump campaign confirming that sarah palin will not be campaigning for donald trump in florida. let's go to andrea mitchell. >> it's incredible. and it's very sad when you look. even with the protesters, the level of anger from all sides including the anger from our side, we're angry. we're not angry people. i tell you that. we're good people. but there's a lot of anger. and there's anger, chris, and
incompetence when you look at the trade deals, our military, where we can't beat isis. we can't beat isis. and there's anger at the fact that america, the united states, it doesn't win anymore. we don't win on trade. we don't win with the military. we can't take care of our vets, who are so important. education is a disaster. education. common core, we're getting rid of, by the way. we're going to bring education locally. but you just look at it. they're chopping away at the second amendment. we're not going to let that happen anymore. we're not going to let it happen. obamacare is a disaster. we're going to repeal and replace it. we're going to repeal it and replace it. a certain governor got out and
spoke after a presidential address and sort of alluded to the anger and the next night, i was in a debate. one of the debates. they say i've won every debate i think i have. i think if i didn't, we wouldn't be here today, right. i would have been like the other people, out. but nikki haley said there's anger. but nikki haley said you and a lot of your supporters have great anger. i'm supposed to say, oh, no. we don't have anger. we're wonderful people. we're so happy with the way the country is running. i said, wait a minute. i'm going to tell the truth. i said, yes. i'm angry. yes, the millions of people that are supporting trump and i'm supporting them. we're all angry because we're tired of a government that is run incompetently. we have incompetent people running our country.
and i said, we're tired of the iran deal. we give iran a terror state, we give iran $150 billion. we have prisoners in there for years. we should have never even started that negotiation until those prisoners were released. that, i can tell you. rather than doing the politically correct answer, no, we're not angry. everything is just, you know, peaches, i said, we're very upset. we're very angry with the way our country is being run. and let me tell you, we'll make changes and this country so great again, but it's an embarrassment. i have friends from china. i have friends from mexico. i have friends from japan. they can't believe what they get away with. they can't believe it themselves. we're like the whipping potist the world like in trade. we're going from the not so smart people, i want to say beyond that but i'm not but
we're going to go to the brilliant people. we're going to be respected again as a country. we're not respected at all right now. >> good day. i'm andrea mitchell in washington. as republicans and democrats confronting repeated violence at donald trump rallies in the last couple of days and the impact on politics well beyond the republican party. we just saw no violence, but protesters getting up as trump was calling for who we're going to build, who's going to build the wall and the response from the crowd. the case was mexico when some immigration protesters presumably got active and shouted down as donald trump sits there with his new supporter, chris christie, former rival, of course. let's get to the latest. jacob rascon and hallie jackson covering the ted cruz campaign. nbc's gabe gutierrez following marco rubio in florida and nbc's peter alexander on the trail
with john kasich in ohio. jason, first you're in north carolina. donald trump was late to the rally. they were facing some fog and some airplane delays, and now he's getting warmed up. but this is par for the course the way he is proceeding today. the format with chris christie interviewing him is a bit different. >> reporter: right, chris christie is playing moderator. moments ago, we saw a group of protesters just feet in front of me. in fact, they were seated right in front of the cameras. you had three white men. a black man and a couple of black women. they stood up. they were not very loud. most of them stood in silence with signs that said inclusion, not exclusion. and the women, the two women with a bigger sign that said do not bring hate, they were responded to by chants of usa, we didn't see violence from the trump supporters. didn't hear the typical trump saying get them out of here. it was a little more subdued. they were brought out and then replaced with trump supporters.
but you have chris christie moderating as you said and he asked trump how he was going to bring this divided country back together. and trump responded, simply by saying that the country is very upset at the way the country is being run. the supporters who come to his rallies are upset by the way the country is being run and he promised to make america great again but didn't go into detail about how he planned to do that. outside of this forum, we have protesters as well who have been so peaceful as well as mingling with supporters. there have been chants back and forth about the wall and immigration and different things. we've seen the protesters as is usually the case, but so far, andrea, no violence, and now trump is back on his usual stump talking about businesses, talking about jobs and talking about the wall. andrea? >> and certainly a noticeable difference in trump's rhetoric today. hallie jackson with ted cruz. you spoke to ted cruz today
about donald trump. there was none of the get out of here, the calls from trump that occurred this weekend as well even after the violence broke out in both kansas city and chicago. the trump rally that had to be cancelled on friday. the chris christie presence seems to be a calming influence, must be part of the strategy. >> reporter: and it's interesting to look at jacob's reporting and the sort of vibe and energy of the event there. we were out with trump all weekend long in places throughout the country, and the energy depending on the event, depending on the location, and depending on the time can really change. for example, we were at one saturday morning that seemed low key until the speech began and you started seeing protests build. the next day, we saw maybe ten protests happen, even before trump started talking and you can feel the crowd react and respond to those protests. it's something that has been different than what we've necessarily seen from trump two
months ago and something i asked ted cruz about today here in rockford. listen. >> we've seen violence at his rallies. we've seen tension. at what point do you reconsider? i'm pressing you on this because it's an extraordinary 96 hours in the republican race. >> hallie, it has. i agree that's a question that the voters are asking. at what point -- >> he's the front runner offering to pay legal fees. >> ask the question, but we're not going to debate. that is a question the voters are asking. at what point do we say enough is enough? >> we followed up asking when for ted cruz enough is enough. he has even in the last 48 hours reiterated he will support donald trump if donald trump is the republican nominee and that's because cruz said he is somebody who will do what he says he will do. you know consistency, the
premise he keeps his promises is at the foundation of his campaign and that's what cruz points to when he talks about the pledge to support the nominee. >> thanks to you, halle and gabe gutierrez in florida with marco rubio. that's his only focus and you're on the road with him all day today. >> reporter: hi there, andrea. good afternoon. we're probably somewhere around daytona on i-95 south, a main artery and rubio started his day in jacksonville. we head to him in melbourne and this is absolutely critical for marco rubio. 350 miles that he's driving from jacksonville to miami. and this is really in many ways, could be his last stand. he is facing a very steep mountain here in florida. you mentioned earlier, nbc "wall street journal" poll has him down 23 points in florida. the monmouth university poll down 17 points, higher than it
has last week. the rubio campaign was pointing to the monmouth poll had him down 8 points in florida and rubio camp discounts these polls and have him show with a much tighter race in single digits but andrea, this is a very frustrated campaign in the sense that we heard marco rubio over the weekend sounding visibly frustrated when asked questions about donald trump and the tenor of this campaign. he said that he was very concerned that someone could lose their life at a donald trump rally and also was talking about he fears this atmosphere could define the republican party for years to come. so he has several events now. melbourne and then west palm beach and miami and local media interviews to reach out to the people here in florida. his home state, andrea, and he's down significantly. his campaign insisting that they're going to surprise folks tomorrow. we have to wait and see. >> thanks to you, gabe, and
talking about the other critical state, ohio. peter alexander is there and just talked to john kasich. peter? >> reporter: yeah, andrea. that's right. we just wrapped up the conversation with john kasich and asked him about his comments with donald trump's rallies being a toxic environment and why he waited so long to condemn the devicive lae divisive lang. not just a greater concern to damage the party but he thought it would potentially damage the country, recognized if he isn't the nominee or make it, he'll be presiding over the convention in cleveland several months from now. he said security at that event is one he's comfortable they'll be able to handle but certainly on his mind as well as others right now. he's 0 for everything so far. hasn't won a state. it's all on the line here tomorrow night in the state where he's largely served the voters for most of the last decades in 1979 and had 12 races
in the state and won all of them. his numbers among republicans, his approval rating at 79% but here it is once again, a neck and neck race. our poll shows about 6 points over donald trump and other polls show it literally even right now. he said repeatedly he's confident he'll win here and while he won't be able to mathematically clinch the nomination, he's confident he has the momentum to pick up delegates along the way and be a viable candidate in cleveland this summer. >> peter, briefly, mitt romney to campaign with him. is there any reluctance on the kasich team's part to be with mitt romney because of the way romney's stop trump movement really backfired? >> reporter: recognized a few days ago, john kasich was critical of the robocalls. he's confident romney will be positive but he said he doesn't
control mitt romney and mitt romney doesn't control him. while he said there's three lanes in this race. there's the, as they turn the vehicle on indoors here, there's the establishment lane that there's the outsider trump and then middle and then kasich lane. they've got to take votes from the establishment lane as well. if he wins here, kasich will be the lone mainstream republican left in the race. >> peter alexander covering it all in ohio. thank you. this morning, chuck todd asked bernie sanders about donald trump. it was part of an msnbc town hall to air at 8 p.m. eastern on msnbc. here's a sneak peek. >> marco rubio this morning said the following. we are now a nation where people hate each other. it was sort of a stark and obviously he's reacting to the donald trump rallies. how do you react? >> i understand where senator rubio is coming from.
what he's disturbed about and what i am disturbed about is we have a major candidate for president of the united states, donald trump, who is literally inciting violence among his supporters. when he says that he is prepared to pay the legal fees for somebody who sucker punches somebody, what he is really essentially saying is go do it, go beat up people. >> it's a permission slip. >> ifs more than a permission slip. it's an enticement. saying you can beat up people. that's what this campaign is about and don't worry about it. i'll pay the legal fees. >> former republican national committee communication director, contributor to the "wall street journal." you have written a very impactful column. let's talk about why you think trump is dangerous territory for the republican party. >> sure. i think if you look at his rhetoric over the past eight months, we've seen him cassigate
every minority. while a lot of conservatives, i think some of these protests are organized by people on the left and what we saw in chicago. it wasn't just a protest but a mission to take down an event, i think also shameful. this is stemming from violent rhetoric encouraging people to take violence, spitting at reporters and assaulting a reporter who was just dangerous for the country and republicans as well. folks like myself say never trump. an organization like the never trump pack is organizing on the grassroots level because we believe donald trump is so dangerous not just to the party but the country. >> you wrote in the "wall street journal" mr. trump iswi widely seen as channelling the anger but different tweebetween garde
variety insults but calls to help the country. that said, there's been a noticeable silence from mainstream republicans. we have seen one senator, mitt r romney. where are the other republicans? >> certainly, marco rubio was emotional this weekend. i call for more republicans to condemn these remarks by donald trump. what we see at his rallies. donald trump is right. there's a lot of anger in this country. he's in hickory, north carolina, right now. a town i used to spend a lot of time in. it's a town that's really struggling economically. a lot of people are concerned about their wages being stagnant. long-term unemployment. there's good reasons people are angry but we see an inciting of violence causing trouble and i wish more republicans would speak loudly and strongly and condemn this violent rhetoric. >> ben carson on with matt lauer
on the "today" program. >> are you comfortable with that temperament in the oval office? >> that probably is not the way that i would handle it, but recognize that the people of america are in a different place than i'm at. >> do you see a general election season with escalating violence and words being used that are inflammatory like this? >> i think certainly if the protesters continue with their ai lin skite tactics, there's a possibility of escalation. >> what do you see like that? they seem an unlikely pair given their whole different affect of the way ben carson conducted himself during the campaign. >> sure. and given some of the really ugly things donald trump said about ben carson personally, i'm surprised ben carson endorsed him. but ben carson told a very real
truth about donald trump just earlier today or this weekend where he said donald trump doesn't really believe all the things he's saying publicly. i think folks like myself know that's the case. one of the things that governor romney spoke about in his speech and why, again, we think donald trump is very destructive to the republican party, to the country, really troubling to our allies throughout our world not laughing at america but frightened about what's happening in the republican party and donald trump could be our president. that's why folks are standing up on a grassroots level and certainly in the media to say, we can't support donald trump if he's our nominee. >> doug high, thank you very much for being with us. what does the recent violence at trump rallies mean for the republican party and the country at large? there are some parallels. they're not pretty. >> look at those people back there. wow. >> republican front-runner donald trump, who after tomorrow, could have a virtual lock on the republican nomination. even as there was violence between supporters and
protesters over his candidacy, trump rejecting criticism he shares part of the blame. >> we're not provoking. we all want peace. this group, is that true or what? we don't want trouble. >> his rivals say the violence and his rhetoric could splinter the party. >> donald trump has created a toxic environment. >> do we really want to live in a country where americans hate each other? >> we should remember that we've been through this before, but the difference is that we're seeing it live now. >> get them out of here. get them out. >> trump's rhetoric compared to george wallace, who split from the democratic party in 1968, launching an independent bid for the white house appealing heavily to white working class voters. >> we've got some of the free speech voters. they've got it, all right. >> the two men responding to protesters and targeting the news media in similar fashions. >> you news men have a fit, right on over there. they're more interested in two or three pickets now than thousands of people here. that's what they show on television, you know?
>> we have nine or ten thousand people in here. they talk about one guy or two guys. head line, trump had pickets. >> many republicans openly concerned. captured by "time" magazine asking what happened to this party. >> if donald trump is the nominee, the republican vote is going to collapse. if they're not super submitted, they'll just stay home. in which case the senators and county commissioners are doomed. >> "washington post" chief correspondent dan balls joins me now. it's a dangerous decescent and e dangerous implications on the trump side. >> what we saw over the weekend, andrea, i think was disturbing to everybody. nobody is condoning the violence on either side of what's happening at the trump rallies, but i think it was indicative of where the blame is being pinned when the major candidates who are running against donald trump all spoke out pretty forcefully,
john kasich and ted cruz and marco rubio about why they think donald trump is responsible for this. i mean, we are at a very, i don't know what the right word is. a dangerous moment. when we see kind of the escalation of passions on both sides, donald trump has tapped into something, and we know there's something real about that. it is a movement that is partly based in grievance and resentment and it has grown into anger. it has caused a backlash from the other side that is just as angry and we see it play out at trump rallies. it is sort of a moment when all sides need to kind of step back a bit. but it's not clear how that's going to happen. as somebody i talked to at the trump rally in dayton on saturday morning said, i mean, he stirs people up. that is the basis of what his campaign appeal is in part. and when you stir people up, it is hard to, at the last minute,
say don't get too stirred up. what we've seen is a movement on the one side and a countermovement object othn the side. it's a tough convention in cleveland if he doesn't have enough delegates or if he does, there could be protests there. it's not clear where it's going, but what we saw friday, both in st. louis and in chicago was certainly worrisome and i think the question now is what happens. >> and you saw today he is on stage with chris christie in white armchairs trying to affect a different posture, literally, and figuratively, and set up questions from chris christie how much he's spoken out against the violence which we all know is not taking place because we've seen all of the rhetoric he's used, even after what happened in chicago, he was back. but this is what he said a couple of moments ago.
>> the press is now calling this thing, oh, but there's such violence. violence. you know how many people have been hurt at our rallies? i think basically none, other than i guess maybe somebody got hit once. there's no violence. there's none whatsoever, and i tell you what. we go and these things are so incredible. it's a movement and it's a lovefest. and we love each other and we do so well. and before we forget, chris, so important tomorrow, north carolina, you have to go out and vote. >> now, and he also told chuck todd on "meet the press" he was looking into paying the legal fees for the man who sucker punched the man who was injured at that rally in north carolina. so to me, he's all over the place as far as what's happened at these rallies. >> i think there's truth to that, andrea. i think what we've seen from trump's campaign, from the very
start is that he has gone after different groups of people. and there is a consequence to that. it has generated a lot of support. he's on a track to become the republican nominee. we see what happens in the primaries tomorrow. but he is clearly on track to be the nominee. and what he has had to say both about different groups, whether it's hispanics or muslims or others has created a backlash. and that's brought protests to his rallies. and as i said in the beginning, no one is condoning people who are disrupting in any sort of physical or violence way at those rallies, but when donald trump talks about, i wish i could punch that person in the face who's being led out at one of his rallies, that encourages the kind of up roar that we are seeing now all around his candidacy. and i don't know how he intends to deal with it.
i don't know how the republican party intends to deal with it, if he becomes the nominee. but i think we're in a divided country and inciting people to punch protesters at a rally is probably not the best way to bring this thing to tamp down the temperature. >> dan balz, thank you very much for being with us. >> thanks, andrea. who is the real hillary clinton? you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. we got another one. i have an orc-o-gram for an "owen." that's me. ♪ you should hire stacy drew. ♪ ♪ she wants to change the world with you. ♪ ♪ she can program jet engines to talk and such. ♪ ♪ her biggest weakness is she cares too much. ♪ thank you. my friend really wants a job at ge. mine too. ♪ i'm a wise elf from a far off shire. ♪ and sanjay patel is who you should hire. ♪ thank you. seriously though, stacy went to a great school and she's really loyal. you should give her a shot. sanjay's a team player and uh...
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the top 10% of the top 1% control 90% of the wealth in this country. and i've always said that. ever since i was a young boy growing up in brooklyn. oh, brooklyn. when it comes to darn wall street, i've always believed, no bank can be too big to fail. no executive, you know the rest. it's that famous mobilizing sentence that works on you guys that i've been saying this whole time. so thank you millennials for lending your support for the biggest outsider jew in the race. hillary rodham clinton. >> you've got to laugh. i'm joined by christina chykie, a great sense of humor. for the hillary clinton campaign. hit all the candidates. i mean, larry david on bernie is classic. but there is some truth to the fact that she is emphasizing
trade, free trade. she talked to an unemployed steel worker in the town hall about pressuring china to stop dumping steel. i traveled with her as secretary of state never heard about stopping china from dumping steel. after what happened in michigan, we have seen a real change in her emphasis as she, you know, faces primaries in illinois and ohio now and missouri. >> you know, andrea, first of all, that was hilarious on snl. no one enjoys that more than hillary clinton. given what's happening on the other side, i think a little levity and laughter is a good thing in this election. her record on trade has been distorted and mischaracterized in this. the truth is that she has always had a strict criteria for how she judges trade deals. first, most importantly, does it create american jobs? second, does it raise wages in the united states and third, does it protect our national security? she is a believer that 95% of
the world lives outside of the united states and that's potential billions of customers for american manufacturers. she believes in american companies and workers. when we have a fair playing field, we can compete again and work against any worker in the world. her record has been distorted on this. she looks at each trade deal individually and really holds it against that standard of the three criteria she has always said and she has been for some trade deals and against others but being portrayed as somebody who believes in all trade and is a proponent of outsourcinoutsou. if you look at her record, nothing could be further from the truth. you see her in ohio and then in illinois and north carolina talking about her record and also her plans of how she would grow jobs here in the united states. she is the only candidate that put forward a manufacturing plan and she's really focused on this. she said the singular challenge
of the next president of the united states is to raise wages in this country and a real plan to do that. >> there have been a couple of moments. what some called unforced errors. hillary clinton criticizing bernie sanders for not supporting her on health care back in the '90s and then this pops up. >> pretty grateful for the leadership that many people with this great reform effort and grateful congressman sanders would join us from vermont. >> so he was there for her pushing for health care. >> we know he was there at one press conference. i'm sure he attended a few meetings. but andrea, you remember because you covered this. she was at the epicenter of this fight to get universal health care for this country and the scars to prove it. the insurance companies and the drug companies spent millions of dollars to get every american health insurance and they made a lot of personal attacks on her
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the same. she wants the facts to come out and come out as soon as possible because people will see there's no wrongdoing here and she has encouraged everyone to come forward and fully participate and hopes that they do. >> christina schake, thank you for being with us. >> thank you. up next, the obama doctrine. the thinking of the president and his critics on the administration's foreign policy. an atlantic magazine on msnbc. i've been blind since birth. i go through periods where it's hard to sleep at night, and stay awake during the day. learn about non-24 by calling 844-844-2424. or visit my24info.com. won't keep you up at night.n know you have insights from professional investment strategists to help set your mind at ease.
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i think we should've taken a tarzan know where tarzan go! tarzan does not know where tarzan go. hey, excuse me, do you know where the waterfall is? waterfall? no, me tarzan, king of jungle. why don't you want to just ask somebody? if you're a couple, you fight over directions. it's what you do. if you want to save fifteen percent or more on car insurance, you switch to geico. oh ohhhhh it's what you do. ohhhhhh! do you have to do that right in my ear? i think over the last three and a half years, people have called me a lame duck and somehow, we've got a lot done. >> president obama moments ago at the state department addressing the diplomatic core. for good and for bad. i'm joined by jeffrey goldberg of the atlantic with his wide ranging interviews about foreign policy with a fascinating
insight with the most important decisions. it's an amazing piece. thank you very much for sharing with us. first of all, the most important moment i think, the turning point really was his decision in 2013. august 30th, i think, not to enforce his red line against assad despite given every indication to his own cabinet that he was going to do it, sending john kerry, with a churchillian go to war speech. for me to push the pause button, based on your interviews with the president, would cost me politically and think in america's best interest, not only with respect to syria but with respect to our democracy was as tough a decision i've made and ultimately, it was the right decision to make. but you also write that it had a huge impact with saudis and
others in the gulf and the european allies. >> no, to the president, this was the hinge moment, i think of his foreign policy presidency and really felt like he was being pushed towards something that he didn't think would work and didn't think was the right thing for the united states. so i described it a bit of a liberating moment for him because it's the moment he stood up to our various allies and the foreign policy establishment and said, this is probably not going to work. i don't want to do it without congress, and therefore, i am not going to go down, and this is an important part, the same road i went on libya, which in his mind and what he told me, a very blunt quote, with reference to libya, it didn't work. and he didn't want to replicate that same situation in syria. >> did he ever explain why he withdrew the red line in the first place if he was not going to enforce it? it was the lack of enforcement
that caused concern. >> right. i think from what i can gather, the red line, which was made the year before, first, he does not interpret the red line statement he made as a statement of war-like intent. he said, it would, quote, change my calculus. he thought he was being ambiguous and others did not interpret that as an ambiguous statement but at the time, i think there was proof assad was doing various things with this stuff and thought a brushback pitch directed at assad, we know what you're doing, would suffice, but i think he didn't realize that the words would carry the weight that they did and found himself in a box the year later in 2013. >> and of course, he didn't give a heads up to his secretary of state while he was meeting with susan rice and others, dennis mcdonagh, so was under the false
impression. you write that secretary kerry on the decision not to go and strike syria. obama's decision caused tremors across washington as well. kerry would not learn about the change until later that evening. i just got blanked over, he told a friend shortly after talking to the president that night. >> the lucky thing about kerry, he's ir repressable. he became to lobby congress. and it caused a lot of tremors. and it really was, i mean, look. the process itself was very messy. i think even the president recognizes that. at the end of the day, he got what he wanted which was the chemical weapons out of syria but he does recognize that he went way too far down a certain pathway leading his secretary of state and even more important than just the people who worked for him, our allies in france and great britain and across the
middle east. it was a bit of a mess. >> speaking of a mess, the relation to netanyahu, in one of the meetings with the president, the israeli and the president interrupted the prime minister. you have to understand something. i'm the african-american son of a single mother and live here in this house. i live in the white house. i managed to get elect president of the united states. you think i don't understand what you're talking about, but i do. and you write this just as we've had another incident, there was supposed to be a meeting. the president found out that netanyahu wasn't coming by the staff meeting about it in the newspaper. >> i mean, andrea. it's funny. you and i have been going back and forth on this one for years. when do we have a week where they're not having a failure of communication at a certain point? it's really remarkable how dysfunctional this relationship is. even when they try to get it
right. what was going on there in that episode was something that happens between obama and a lot of middle east countries to tell you the truth. the relationship with israel is more intense and intimate, but there's a general feeling on the part of arabs that president obama doesn't fully understand the complexity or the challenge of the middle east and that's a moment where obama had enough, i guess, of a lecture and said, you know what, i'm not dumb. i get it. i understand what you're saying. we just happen to have a different policy. >> and friction with the brits. he criticizes the europeans for not following through on libya and specifically, david cameron, the closest ally. there's a lot to that. just to let our viewers know, jason rezzian just met with the president and in town today at an event downtown tonight and just had a meeting with the president. president, of course, was roundly criticized again today
by donald trump for not getting prisoners home before he did the deal with iran but of course, jason rezzian is returning from iran and one of the huge accomplishments of private diplomacy. great reporting, thank you very much. and thank you for sharing. all "the atlantic" online. tomorrow, florida and ohio. two win or take all states. you're watching "andrea mitchell reports" on msnbc. we were born 100 years ago into a new american century. born with a hunger to fly and a passion to build something better. and what an amazing time it's been, decade after decade of innovation, inspiration and wonder. so, we say thank you america for a century of trust, for the privilege of flying higher and higher, together. ♪
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to todd palin. he is hospitalized and in intensive care. so we wish him well but will not see sarah palin on the trail today. let's talk about the delegate map. why are florida and ohio so important to trump? i think i know the answer. >> look, andrea. this is the republican party rules. you can't have a win or take all state until tomorrow. that is, if you want to move your state up in the calendar, that's all well and good but it has to be proportional. the reason for this is they don't want the process. they want the big states to move to the beginning of march and have the process be over in five minutes. but as a result, you have two of the biggest states and i would say the biggest states not just in a primary but we talked about ohio and florida a lot in the last ten or 12 years in terms of general elections too. 99 delegates in florida. 66 delegates in ohio and all go to the person. you could get one more vote than the guy behind you and get every single one of those delegates.
that's a huge amount. that's 160 plus to add to your total, and as you mentioned, for donald trump, he wins these two and now it becomes plausible. i don't want to say likely but much more plausible to get to it if he doesn't get ohio, i think, is the more likely of the two he doesn't win but becomes more difficult than that. it just gets harder. >> it could be the end of the road for marco rubio. he's desperately campaigning in florida and ted cruz entering florida certainly complicated that for rubio. if you add what cruz and rubio combined would have, it's possible, at least, that rubio could shoot ahead in florida. >> and this has been the problem with the stop trump movement from the start. >> right. >> everybody, or at least many people believe that in the republican establishment believe they can't have trump but none agree on the right strategy. cruz quite clearly belie llie l best chance is march 16 one on
one battle. that is, rubio loses florida. potentially, kasich loses ohio and then cruz believes he's better suited than that. the problem there is that trump would then have a significant 300 plus delegate lead over cruz and a lot of the states, andrea, and this is something people haven't addressed as much. a lot of the states in the future, new york, pennsylvania, california, some of the west coast states, oregon, washington, i'm not certain that ted cruz is a republican that beats donald trump in those. if possible, donald trump wins them, but still doesn't get to the 1237 and go into the convention without anyone having the number but for people who think it's cruz versus trump, a lot of states have gone who were the ones for ted cruz including many in the south that donald trump won. >> let's talk about the democrats for a moment. for planning purposes, we could not figure out hillary
clinton's, did not say where she was going to be tomorrow night. first, ohio, and then north carolina. and then briefly the possibility of illinois. and finally now, we're told she'll end up tomorrow night in florida, where she was on super tuesday only a week ago where she's got an enormous lead. which tells you that she's not that confident about ohio. it's closer than they expected in illinois. she doesn't want to appear with rahm emanuel, picketed against. we sort of know politically is a big downside for her there. i don't know why she wouldn't be in north carolina. that's where she'll be tonight. if you look at the map and her travel plans, they are nervous about tomorrow. >> no question. they do not want her in a place where she could lose or win narrowly and look like a loss. so illinois is out. ohio is out. missouri is out. my guess with north carolina, andrea, they figure two states in the bag, north carolina and florida. florida is both the bigger delegate and the bigger in terms
of electoral vote in the election. so that's sort of her focus on florida. here's the only thing i'd say about it. bernie sanders could have a good night tomorrow night. he could win several states. what you need to remember in terms of delegate math, he needs to win illinois not by one point by 25 points to catch up with her. democrats do not have any win or take all states. this is all proportional. florida, ohio, illinois. she's going to get delegates, probably a significant number and he's way, way behind. >> and another thing to point out on the republican side, we want to show you something that happened at donald trump's rally before he arrived. the warm-up was a pastor and a trump supporter who appears frequently at these rallies to get the crowd ready and here's what happened. he was talking about bernie sanders. >> bernie sanders who doesn't believe in god, how in the world are we going to let bernie, i
mean, really? i mean, listen. bernie got to get saved. he got to meet jesus. he got to come to a jesus meeting. >> the suggestion that bernie sanders doesn't believe in god, and that he has to have a come to jesus meeting. it's firing up a lot of interest because of course, bernie sanders is jewish and the only jewish candidate to reach this level in the national campaign. what do you make of it? >> look, under normal circumstances, you would likely see the candidate sometime later this afternoon saying, look, the pastor has his own views, i don't share them. i welcome people of the jewish fate, et cetera, et cetera. that won't happen with donald trump. my guess is he'll double down or say nothing. >> chris cillizza, thank you very much. more ahead. we'll be right back. microsoft cloud changes our world dramatically.
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good monday to you. i'm craig melbin from cleveland, ohio. it's 1:00 p.m. on the east coast and we've got a busy lunchtime crowd here. even busier on the campaign trail though with just one day to go before super tuesday. two republican candidates and democrats are all fanned out across all five of tomorrow's primary states. ohio, florida, north carolina, illinois,