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a special live edition of "andrea mitchell reports" in miami. can the front runners separate themselves from the pack? >> the biggest people in the party are calling. they want to sit down. a lot of people calling because they want to see what's out there. for the democrats, hillary clinton retreating to the safety of friendly florida. is she giving up the midwest to bernie sanders? >> there's a large voter turnout and we're going to do just great here in missouri and ohio and hopefully north carolina and florida. >> for the republicans, two win or take all states. a do or die election here.
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>> i will never take a low road to the highest office in the land. i will not do it. >> good day, everyone. i'm andrea mitchell in beautiful miami getting ready for a night to separate the political contenders from the pretenders. a presidential primary race never short of surprises. our team all in place. donald trump is first going to be addressing the press later tonight. nbc's peter alexander in columbus, ohio, covering john kasich. and here with me in miami, gabe gutierrez and kristen welker
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following all things democrats, especially hillary clinton. first of all, let's go to jacob rascon. trump, offering a lot of blame for the protesters that were marring a number of rallies and t t the protests. >> reporter: it didn't and it won't. donald trump is ahead in every state except ohio and even there, he's neck and neck with the governor who is hugely popular in the state.
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any reasonable mathematical chance at that magic number. if he can sweep tonight, ohio and florida and at least most of the other states. he can put himself above 700 delegates and then he will need in that case about 50% of the remaining delegates which is doable for him. he has suggested last night even if he loses, he will continue on and then how long does john kasich last? if he doesn't win ohio, will he drop out immediately? will this be then donald trump's
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race? will it become the two man race with him and cruz with him far ahe ahead. >> speaking of the republican party and what kind of support donald trump would have, were he the nominee, paul ryan, importantly, the speaker of house rejecting any idea that republican leaders such as himself would block what the primary voters decide. let's watch. >> there is not our decision to make. we're going to stand up in defense of our principles. not just republican principles but american principles. at the same time, what can we control? we can control our agenda. that's what we do. with respect to who the nominee, that's selected by the voters. >> peter alexander in ohio, john kasich has the biggest opportunity and the only opportunity really for him to be
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there. >> reporter: john kasich has yet to win a state out of more than 2 dozen if you include dc and puerto rico. his team believe they can take home all 66 delegates. and they acknowledge mathematically they can't get to that 12 or 37 threshold but they believe they would be as viable as you know alternative going forward. what was strike today was john kasich went to the local polling place far from his home outside of columbus in the city known as westerville, how reflective he was about this experience he's
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had over the course of the last several months. he's increaseingly spoken about the ugly way donald trump's campaign events have gone referring as a toxic environment referring to that ad that's now out with donald trump language that he's used. this is a guy from very modest roots, the son of a postman who really felt the moment of this day. the culmination of a long political career where he was able to vote for himself as president. will the state follow suit? that remains to be seen. but nearly 80% of ohio republicans support john kasich which makes it all the more striking that this race is as close as it is. andrea? >> indeed, peter.
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and gabe gutierrez, marco rubio, this is sort of the trajectory of his campaign. >> he was seen as the future of the republican party. a year ago the thinking was the top and making a push. in the rally, he thinks he can pull out a victory and the campaign is banking on what needs to be the turnout in miami-dade county. his home state. but really deep odds, andrea. he's down 17 points, according to the monmouth university poll.
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the nbc news "wall street journal" poll down 21 points. it's going to be really difficult and the question is, what happens tonight if, you know, he doesn't pull out a victory? does he stay in? he says he'll stick out in utah. we'll see. >> the numbers, going through the numbers that we have from our exclusive partnership now with the target group, the data center group, which has been analyzing the early and absentee voting. this is real voting. we can see in comparison and look at their ages and look at ethnic backgrounds and we can look at geography. that's what it tells us, about patterns. >> there's encouraging news in that. the hispanic turnout is up this time around but southern florida. that is up as well.
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mitt romney for the early vote here. it's such a steep hill to climb. down so much in these polls. the question will be, will it be enough to make up the differential and right now, a lot of people are saying, the question at the beginning, what happens to the rubio campaign? >> so interesting his former mentor, jeb bush, no longer sees him clearly as a viable alternative and has not endorsed. >> that is so telling, andrea. no endorsement from jeb bush. of course, he met with donald trump's three rivals last week and decided to sit this one out and what an incredible story. marco rubio that came in this improbable run for city commissioner in the late '90s. became speaker of the house in florida and took on his mentor, jeb bush, running for president. ruffled a lot of feathers in tallahassee and now here we are.
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>> he is resigning from the senate and some say if he loses big here in florida, if he even comes in third behind ted cruz, one poll has him neck and neck with ted cruz. can he recover politically? >> finally a question to whether he would drop out or suspend his campaign or stay in nominally if he holds on to his delegates, at least to be a power broker. if he were to lose florida. >> he plans to go to utah.
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>> they were going to be in ohio. they were going to be in chicago and then thinking of new york and then north carolina. they are in florida, we are in florida. because this is where hillary clinton is coming from north carolina today. bernie sanders has basically taken illinois off the map because cannot show up with the former clinton chief of staff in the clinton white house. >> right. and senator sanders has been hammering rahm emanuel and secretary clinton by extension. and so they're quite concerned that's going to hurt her.
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and looking strong in north carolina. home state, as you point out, she's going to be endosrsed by the mother of michael brown. that they hope it helps her and rally african-american voters in a city like chicago where she needs a big turnout to win a state like illinois. she's now stopping at a polling place there but ohio is so central. ohio, illinois, and missouri, having lost michigan, even though she won more delegates, the fact that she actually lost michigan to bernie sanders is going to, if he wins ohio today, it's going to be a big psychological momentum push for him. while we're far behind in delegates, it's going to say to the democratic party, what's
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going on here? we have a democratic nominee who cannot compete in the broad middle parts of the country and how she was going to bolster the manufacturing sector but the question is, is there enough time to that actually have an impact? voters are going to the polls today. >> what a team. jacob rascon, thank you so much.
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clinton retreating here to florida tonight. will bernie sanders pick off some key wins in the midwest? we've been talking about ohio and illinois. what about missouri? we'll talk to his top advisor, tad devine, coming up next. this is "andrea mitchell reports" only on msnbc. hey, need fast heartburn relief? try cool mint zantac. it releases a cooling sensation in your mouth and throat. zantac works in as little as 30 minutes. nexium can take 24 hours. try cool mint zantac. no pill relieves heartburn faster.
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do you think ohio most importantly could be the new michigan? >> from day one of this campaign is the polls always have a very, very far behind on election day and it's a huge margin. >> bernie sanders, of course, hoping when i talk to him last week about continuing to win in the rust belt. today is election day, making a play for ohio and illinois as
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well as missouri. i think you fairly successfully linked him to hillary clinton because he was the chief of staff to bill clinton and now she can barely campaign. well, she was campaigning in ohio, but certainly, rahm emanuel is nowhere to be seen. this is what happened today when bill clinton was at a polling place in chicago and he was asked, why is hillary clinton doing so badly in her home state of illinois? here's the former president. >> there should be a race for president, and there's a blame
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candidate and a responsibility candidate in this race. i'm betting the responsibility candidate will win. >> do you accept the former president calling bernie sanders the blame candidate? >> no, i don't accept that. bernie's message is resonating here in missouri, ohio, and florida. i think all across the nation. because it's what people really believe we need to do in this country. the economy of america is rigged. it's sending too much wealth to the top. the rigged economy held in place by a corrupt campaign finance. and bernie is talking about today. standing up to powerful interests on behalf of the ordinary people.
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i think that's why bernie sanders is succeeding. >> how does he feel when the former president of the united states, the party leader, bill clinton calls him the blame candidate and calls hillary clinton the responsibility candidate? and it's the front end with the super pacs supporting hillary clinton. but we're just going to deal with those attacks. bernie is going to deliver his message. i think when we get through this process, he'll demonstrate he's the strongest democrat to go up against the republican nominee.
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>> you won michigan, of course, a big momentum headline for you guys. she won more delegates and you could have competed more and more states but you put so much into michigan. now i see you're everywhere. you're in fact, he's going to be in arizona tonight going forward and you have tried to spread it out. you've changed your delegate. that was the only way to crack the south and so established there. when that didn't happen, we decided to take a much longer view of the nominating process. we felt we had to demonstrate to beat hillary clinton in states all across his country.
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now we have to add to the foundation of delegates that we've built and as we go into the second part of this process next week in arizona, in utah, and idaho next tuesday, to demonstrate he can beat her time and time again and we're going to do it, not only in those states, i think, where we have a real chance of winning but in big states, in washington state, in new york where we're going to take her on in her home state through california. if we do that, i believe bernie sanders will be the nominee of the democratic party. >> and it has been largely unnoticed because of how nasty the republican candidates have been, but ever since nevada, he has been hammering her by name in every appearance and every news conference. how are you going to make peace down the road no matter who wins this thing? are you at risk of splintering the democratic party in how nasty this campaign has become? >> no, i don't think we are, and we just heard the attacks from
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president clinton. it's going to be tough attacks, i'm sure. that's going to happen. but bernie sanders is not making personal attacks. this process on our side really contrasts with what's going on in the republican side, which is almost a joke at times. hillary clinton and bernie sanders have big differences on big issues. trade someone of this one of thd many big issues with big differences. bernie believes the voters deserve to hear about the differences and the issues but i don't think there's any problem in the end. whoever wins this process, po pulling the democratic party together, that's what's at stake in this election. >> you going to win ohio or illinois or both? >> i hope so. we've got a good shot in missouri, i think. and closing hard in illinois and ohio. as we did last week for michigan. and there's a lot of early vote and in florida, independence
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cannot participate there. that's an advantage for hillary. more to participate and the better bernie does. we hope to win a lot of delegates everywhere to want. we hope we can win states as well. >> tad devine, thank you very much. good luck out there. catch up with you soon in person. and coming up, midwest barn storming. chris jansing. both of them in a moment and 5:00 eastern, a chance to look at the exit polls to give us some big clues as to who is going to have a good night in all five of tonight's contests. stay with us. you're watching a special edition of andrea mitchell reports in miami only on msnbc. ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪ ♪jake reese, "day to feel alive"♪
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>> a minority peps up the rally and those who chose to vote in the republican primaries or caucuses. as i said, i've gotten more votes than he has already. so i don't think he represents the vast majority of americans. you have more interest in solving our problems than our disappointment or venting our anger. is he going to be challenging? of course, it will be. got to be as focused as possible. i'm sorry, who is talking back here? thank you all very much. >> too much time with the press. that's the new story. >> as we go from north carolina to ohio, ohio native nbc's chris jansing joining us from urban farmer and kat snow from a polling place in springfield, illinois, where ted cruz has
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been making a play. first to you, chris jansing, john kasich has been winning elections for 40 years in ohio, but are some of his supporters even going over and registering to try to vote for trump because they want to stop to vote for trump or other people? what are you feeling out there in ohio? >> reporter: that's the question. i think both campaigns are nervous. it's close here. and part of the reason is exactly what has made trump successful elsewhere, this disaffection, but more than that, it's a state that hasn't felt the recovery as much as other states. when john kasich goes out and says, i've created hundreds of thousands of jobs, it's true and cut taxes, also true but what he did to pay for the tax cuts is cut localities. at least 70 towns and cities cut by at least a million dollars. in places like toledo, on the
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ballot in addition to the presidential election, an income tax hike and whether they'll accept that. there is the level of disaffecti disaffection. the other side, there's a lot of questions here including that crossover vote. rubio saying, allowing his people saying vote for john kasich, anti-trump vote. so others, a lot at play here and i think the polls that show it very close is what both campaigns are feeling. >> reporter: this time around, things aren't decided yet. they could be critical. ted cruz was in this town late last night, 10:30, 1:1:00 and tearing down donald trump a bit
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mentioning what the contributions made with emanuel and rod blagojevich now in prison after corruption charges. so ted cruz trying to stain donald trump, but we're talking to a lot of voters leaving here telling me they voted for donald trump. it's a heavy republican county in springfield. i want to give you a sense quickly behind me. this is where people are checking in. look at how many people are here filling out ballots right now. they told me this time of day in previous elections, the judges here said they usually have two or three people, andrea. two or three. right now, i count, i don't know, a couple dozen people in the room. turnout way up. and hearing stories here from the folks running the place saying that there are democrats coming in and asking for republican ballots. that could be partly because there's a local race here where people want to cross over, but it could also be people wanting to vote for donald trump. so we're going to keep a close eye on that and the democratic race could be tight here in
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illinois and i was talking to a voter, andrea, who got a phone call last night from bill clint clinton. andrea? >> kate snow and chris jansing, ohio and illinois. thank you both so much. moments ago, back in washington, president obama on capitol hill. it's the traditional st. patrick's day lunch with congress. although it's two days early. off the campaign trail but talking about the politics of the campaign at the st. patrick's day lunch on capitol hill. >> i know that i'm not the only one in this room who may be more than a little dismayed about what's happening on the campaign trail lately. we have heard vulgar and divisive rhetoric aimed at women and minorities. americans who don't look like us or pray like us or vote like we do. we've seen misguided attempts to shut down that speech, however
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offensive it may be. we live in a country where free speech is one of the most important rights that we hold. in response to those attempts, we've seen actual violence. and we've heard silence from too many of our leaders. speaker ryan, i appreciated the words on this topic that you shared with us this morning. but too often, we've accepted this as somehow the new normal. and it's worth asking ourselves what each of us may have done to contribute to this kind of vicious atmosphere in our politics. i suspect that all of us can recall some intemperate words that we regret. certainly i can. and while some may be more to blame than others for the current climate, all of us are
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responsible for reversing it. for it is a cycle that is not an accurate reflection of america. and it has to stop. and i say that not because it's a matter of political correctness, it's about the way the corrosive behavior can undermine our democracy. and our society and even our economy. in america, there aren't laws that say we have to be nice to each other or courteous or treat each other with respect, but there are norms. there are customs. there are values that our parents taught us and we try to teach to our children. to try to treat others the way we want to be treated. the notion that kindness breeds kindness. the longer that we allow the political rhetoric of late to continue and the longer that we
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tacitly accept it, we create a permission structure that allows the animosity to infect our broader society. and animosity breeds animosity. and this is also about the american brand. who are we? how are we perceived around the world? there's a reason that america has always attracted the greatest talent from every corner of the globe. there's a reason that made in america means something. it's because we're creative and dynamic and diverse and inclusive and open. why would we want to see that brand tarnished? the world pays attention to what we say and what wie do. this is also about what we are teaching our children. we should not have to explain to them this darker side of politics. we should not be afraid to take
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them to a political rally or let them watch political debates. we should be teaching them that this democracy is a vibrant and precious thing. and it's going to be theirs someday. and we want them to elevate it. >> president obama just moments ago on capitol hill at what has always been a jolly lunch, celebrating st. patrick's day. a much more serious message from the president. joining me to talk about all of this for our daily fix, chris cillizza, founder of the "washington post" fix blog and "washington post" columnist. chris, this is an unusual st. patrick's day message from the president. >> yeah, i feel like you've obviously heard hillary clinton condemn what's going on with donald trump, bernie sanders certainly. but i think president obama sees himself in a unique position in that he's made this clear many times. he's not running for anything else. he's not trying to rally the
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democratic base. there aren't a lot of ulterior motives here as he sees it. i think he views the presidency. look, we know this, former president is our friend and george w. bush and bill clinton. the people who don't agree on much but come together on that. they view the presidency as a sacred vow passed from one to the next and barack obama is legitimately concerned about the rhetoric in the country. now, the impact of barack obama condemning donald trump politically speaking will be to animate even more, the counter of what barack obama, his message at least is. >> and one of the other efforts against donald trump is that the super pac advertisement taking his words about women and trying to use them against him. let's play a bit of it. >> bimbo. >> dog. >> fat pig. >> real quotes from donald trump about women. a person who is very flat-chested is very hard to be
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a 10. >> i'd look her right in that ugly face of hers. would anyone vote for that? >> women, you have to treat them like [ bleep ]. >> this is how donald trump talks about our mothers. >> our sisters. >> our daughters. >> was this aimed at republican suburban women who might not be in donald trump's orbit? >> might not be. and definitely might not be. i think after that, you have to imagine that the biggest challenge for the ad makers was figuring what to leave on the cutting room floor there and you have to imagine that democrats anticipating general election campaign with the first female nominee if hillary clinton wins the nomination against donald trump might be just kind of look into that footage and thinking about reusing it in the fall. it's pretty powerful stuff. >> john kasich talked about it today on the trail. let's watch. >> i just saw a commercial, i
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guess it was last night of these comments that were made about women. i have two daughters. they see this stuff. what do you think they think? we'll have more to say about that, but that's going to be not designed to be negative as much as it is to point out things that i've seen that are deeply disturbing in this process. >> and yet nothing that has been thrown at donald trump, chris cillizza, has maz ettered. >> if you had an ad like that run any other politician, no other politician would say the things donald trump had but let's say you subbed in another politician, that would be a campaign ender. that ad is brutal. it's a minute long featuring lots of women reading lots of quotes that donald trump has said about women that are not particularly complementary to put it nicely about women.
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that would be something to end a campaign or deeply damage it. for him, it's a tuesday, right? that's the conundrum we keep coming back to again and again with him, that the 30, somewhere between 30% or 40% depending on the state for him in most of these primary states are for him no matter what they hear about him. >> the democratic side moved. clearly, hillary clinton is way ahead in pledge delegates, super delegates but bernie sanders showing a lot of strength and a lot of unforced errors on her side. >> unforced errors and concern among democrats about the kind of vie brgrancy and strength of
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i'm not about to swim in the slow lane. stay strong. stay active with boost®. thank you, sir. very charming of you. i appreciate you being here and i appreciate free speech, and sir, thank you for being here. >> very different fashion than donald trump. no one knows it better than new york times ashley parker who wrote about her recent experience at trump rallies and joins me here. and it's penned in and at risk
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of some of these rallies and tell me your experiences which you wrote about in the new york times. >> it's interesting. donald trump uses the media as a foil, right? so the press pen is right in the middle, often of the arena and he'll turn and say they're disgusting, they're despicable. that's one thing that happens. but when the mood gets tense and protesters are interrupting the rally and the crowd is getting hostile. the tensions are high and sort of erupting in a mosh pit. >> he was talking about we're having fun and the biggest crowds. every time he's questioned about it on the today show or elsewhere, we have this big crowd and now he's turning it against bernie sanders who says i'm not responsible, but clearly and chicago was the
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organized impetus of some of what happened in response to what was happening from the trump supporters. so who knows who started what. but trump seems to be using this. this is energizing these supporters. how do you feel about that? >> oh, absolutely. i mean, go into a trump rally. it almost feels like you're not unless there's a disruption. unless there's a protester. the way there's key lines in the stump speech and the way he has the line to build a wall, you expect a protester to get hustled out of an event and recently in florida, there have been events light on the protesters and in boca, turned and said, where are thedisrupte. it's part of the show and the schtick. >> he doesn't seem to take in the criticism that this is defini defining. it reminds me of '68 sent out to cover george wallace, frankly.
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>> if you listen to the rhetoric, he wants it both ways. after chicago happens, he called into a bunch of shows and said, i don't condone violence and we can take them on. said i don't condone violence but i am considering paying the legal bills of my supporter who sucker punched a protester. it's a little incongruous. >> ashley parker, thank you so much. before the historic trip, the white house announced a dramatic step with the trade and travel embargo. the new ways to get around the ban on tourism, allowing so-called people to people exchanges. meaning everyday travelers are no longer going to have to be part of a cultural or educational organization. they can go on their own as long as they document the person to person changes. in the major step sought by the cubans, the famed baseball
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welcome back. senator marco rubio making his last stand in the home state of florida. 99 delegates at state. win or take all primary. he needs a miracle to defeat donald trump. he's well behind but popular locally and joining me now, msnbc's jacob soboroff live in
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miami with jennette rubio, wife of marco rubio. >> reporter: they are working hard making phone calls. one of the people is mrs. rubio herself. i want to see if i can squeeze in to get a moment with her. how are you? >> hi, how are you? >> reporter: what's the response you're getting? how are you feeling about tonight? >> great, we're getting a great response. many people say they are supporting marco. we've been having a good week, actually. >> reporter: this campaign is tough towards the end with the florida primary. has it been hard on you and your family? >> it has moments, of course. but we believe in marco and support him in everything he's doing. nothing good is easy, right? we're in it all the way. >> reporter: do you want to see marco continue here in the senate and elected politics or would you like to have some family time together? >> we always want family time, obviously, but take it one day at a time and then we'll make
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the next step. >> reporter: best of luck to you. and to let mrs. rubio make her phone calls. down to the wire here. let's throw it back to you and these guys are going all out. >> thanks so much to you, jacob, if we can talk a bit about florida and how much it means to them there though. janette rubio hasn't been seen much. i haven't seen an interview before this but marco rubio himself acknowledging during the couple of days with donald trump and got personal, he said to chuck todd on "meet the press" he was sorry and embarrassed with his family. >> that's exactly right. he said, if you look at this new york times article that came out today, when it got personal, it was his family himself to push back on him and children, very possibly his wife as well with sort of the personal nature of the attacks.
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and to some might say, you talk to analysts, know better than i do may have been a turning point for marco rubio. when you look at the polls here in florida, particularly in south florida where he is from, he lives not too far from today, the polls are not in his favor. down around 20 points depending what the average is you're looking at and he needs a miracle to come through tonight. >> jacob, what about the volunteers? florida is obviously do or die for them today. >> reporter: without a doubt. i think you see that when you understand what's going on in here, andrea. if i can show you around a bit. these are on phones calling to get every voter out there and running voter shuttles from this location to polling places, picking up voters. it's not an uncommon thing you see in politics but matters more now here than ever before. we were in hialeah, a very cuban american neighborhood in all of
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the united states. earlier today, marco rubio wants to be sitting in long lines in the locations. and i can tell you from what we saw, the lines were not particularly long but hope with calls from mrs. rubio and others, the tide may turn here tonight. >> jacob soboroff and our thanks to janette rubio. please thank her for us. that does it for this special edition of "andrea mitchell reports." follow online, on facebook and twitter @mitchellreports. tune in to msnbc for our special coverage. the make or break primary results starting at 5:00 eastern when we get them first. exit polls. and i'll report live from hillary clinton's primary party in west palm beach, florida. craig melvin is next live from cleveland, ohio, live on msnbc, the place for politics. it's more than a network and the cloud.
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good tuesday, everyone. i'm craig melvin coming to you live from urban farmer restaurant here in cleveland, ohio. we are hearire in one of five states where voting is under way. voters heading to the polls in the high stakes super tuesday to a few hours ago. the biggest prizes up for grabs. ohio and florida. win or take all states on the republican side. contests that could be make or break for john kasich and marco rubio. the reckoning, ted cruz has been banking on victory against donald trump in what he hopes will soon be a two-man race. on the democrat side, the big question. can bernie sanders prove the polls wrong and pull off a michigan-style upset in the buckeye state? >> if there's a large voter turnout, we're going to do just great here in illinois and missouri and ohio and hopefully
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