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impler than that. what's in your wallet? good morning, i'm joy reid. the ongoing manhunt for suspects in the terrorist attacks in belgium earlier this morning. brussels federal prosecutors announced two men are facing terrorism charges at an airport and a subway station in brussels. yesterday belgian media reported police are now looking for a 2-year-old syrian man, nyeem al hamed. they believe he may be linked to the november 13 attacks in paris. the announcement came after two days of dramatic terrorism raids in belgium, led to multiple arrests in brussels. and another raid thursday in a
paris suburb foiled a terrorist plot in the making. french police arrested 34-year-old rata kriket and called it a major arrest. he was wanted in connection as one of the ring leaders of the paris attacks. now so far, there's no clear link between the french suspect and attacks in brussels. today the death total is at 31, including two victims from the united states, a brother and sister heading home from blood vessels when the bombs went off at the airport. another source still missing. morgan ratford has more on the victims. >> reporter: scattered debris, piercing screams and panicked survivors. >> my body was lifted off the ground. >> reporter: 19-year-old missionary mason wells was standing in the back of the delta check-in line, feet from the bombs. >> i could feel the blast. i was covered in a fair amount
of blood, and not necessarily mine. >> reporter: now covered in third degree burns, mason is among the lucky ones. dutch siblings sasha and alexander pinczowski were at the check-in counter. alex was set to be married. both hoped to become citizens. while talking on the phone with their mom, telling her they arrived at the airport safely, the line went dead. relatives frantically traveled to belgium, but authorities identified their remains. we are grateful to have closure, the family said in a statement and thankful for the loving support. support that has erupted on social media. new york senator chuck schumer tweeting our city was their city and we mourned their senseless deaths. sasha's friend posting on instagram, you are the shining star that continues to brighten my day and now the angel that will be with me forever. meanwhile, other families still
waiting for answers. the kentucky couple justin and stephanie shults dropped their mother off at the airport. missionaries richard norby and joseph and personal trainer karen northshield, all hospitalized, leaving a ripple of fear among americans still in belgium. >> now it feels like we're living in a war zone at times. or at least living in a society under threat. >> reporter: under threat united by grief. >> joining me now from brussels is msnbc foreign correspondent a monday my huh dean. how close are officials to finding that kind of closure? >> reporter: that's still a difficult work in progress. there was confirmation today about the nationalnalities of those people involved. it is a very complex process. belgium government in touch with hundreds of embassies here, dozens of nationalities among
those identified in both casualties and fatalities as well as those injured. that is a long and obviously painstaking process. they certainly want to make sure they get all the right information before they start revealing more about those killed and injured. in terms of the investigation, as you can imagine, that too is also a very complex process. today the federal prosecutor, the belgian federal prosecutor shed more light in terms of where it's going. one of the most significant developments to date is that an individual identified as face al sye arrested and charged with activity related to terrorism, including murder and participating in a terrorist group. they say that a search of his house yielded no evidence of weapons or explosives. so we are still not clear as to what his connection is to the attacks that took place on tuesday and both at the airport as well as at the subway station. what we do know, police still looking for that man identified in the white jacket as a third suspect at the airport attack.
the press release also from the federal prosecutor's office said a new arrest warrant has been issued for an individual. now that's consistent with the prosecution in that they don't reveal the surrender name of individuals but want to update the media in terms of who has been detained and not detained. that individual according to the press release is wanted in connection with participating in a terrorist group. what his involvement or her involvement is to this ongoing investigation is still not yet clear. the belgian prosecutor also saying that a man detained a tramway here in brussels will remain in custody for another 24 hours to try and determine if there is any connection with that individual and the ongoing terrorist investigation. so as you can imagine, a lot of moving pieces. but this is perhaps the most so far at least to date, clear indication that the investigation has yielded some arrests with the connection of what took place here last tuesday. joy? >> all right. thank you very much. msnbc in belgium. back with me is malcolm
nance. to that point, malcolm, we talked a little bit in the last hour about the mistake the belgian authorities made, believing they had wrapped up this cell, arresting what they thought was i think the tenth person involved linked to the paris attacks and finding out it's much bigger than they thought. how big in theory could it be beyond belgium and france? are we talking about something that spreads to more countries, or are we talking about a belgium-based, most likely terrorism cell? >> i think it's going to be much bigger. as a matter of fact, there have already been indications over the last six months that there is a much bigger european network. i don't even like to call it a network. because a network is a technical term where a small group of people operate together. this is a consequence at the legislation of cells. okay? and the reason i use the term constellation if they all communicate together, they create a star. okay? in the intelligence community, a
star network. and another group that provides logistics, that's a star. and when they communicate with money launders and weapon suppliers, that gives you a network. i think there are more than one of these hybrid networks. >> and what is their relation to syria? we know that belgium sends more of its nationals to raqqah, to the bases of where isis is operating in syria, where their so-called caliphate is located. what is the relation between these cells and what is happening in syria? >> well, the belgians per capita have the largest number of contributor terrorists that went over there. i think france and britain actually provide larger numbers, physical numbers. but for a tiny country, belgium provided between 470 and 516 fighters, as many as 90 have been killed. they went to syria. syria and iraq, the caliphate, as the isis calls it, has carved out this place. and they created within there not just combatant commands to go around and fight in their
provinces. they also created a covert operations command. an external intelligence organization, probably made up of former saddam regime loyalists, people trained by the kgb. and they have sent those people and created them to infiltrate agents and teams back into europe to create a european battle front. so as we place pressure on top of syria and iraq, with the iraqi army and all the rest the forces coming down on this them flood out fighters. >> to what end? >> to destabilize europe as one, punishment. two, as a way to lift pressure. and three, to aim at drawing global recruiting, you know. more recruits now, they're not going to iraq and syria. they're going to libya. they're going to -- now to yemen, which is a black hole. you're going to see newer, bigger, faster, stronger, younger isis groups start popping up in places. but europe, it's part of their ideology and their religious
prophetic belief they have to attack the areas of rome and destabilizing places as part of that. >> and four americans who are concerned while this is going to now spread to this country, what do you say to that? >> the united states has already had a couple of attacks. they believe were isis-inspired. three types of attack, inspired attack which means you read the literature and say, ooh, i'm going to be isis and you go out and do something, you're isis. and enabled attack, where they contact you, and then they give you weapons or equipment or intelligence and tell you to go carry out an attack or directed attack, which is trained agents sent to the united states. and they come out and carry out an attack. 9/11 was a directed attack. we are a -- we have had and thwarted a lot of inspired attacks. there are 900 fbi investigations going on right now about inspired operatives. it's the enabled attack where they come and say, i want you to go to amal oar i want you to go to a theatre, buy a gun legally and just shoot and kill everybody. >> and what role or what impact
does it have on these inspired attacks for americans who want to be president of the united states to be saying things like we'll carpet bomb, syria, we'll kill terrorists' families, et cetera. >> intelligence and law enforcement are pulling their hair out of their heads. because these attacks, as the joke newspaper -- the onion so famously said, muslim on the fence about terrorism kicked off by donald trump. right? you're pushing them off the fence. we don't need to have crazies and people who have mental defect actually be encouraged to carry out an act of terrorism on the basis of this cartoonish image of what they think islam is. we want those people to remain firmly on the fence or to go away from it. this is an inflammatory rhetoric and needs to stop. >> malcolm nance, thank you very much. i said you were sane-spleeng earlier. i really appreciate it. after the break, how bernie sanders and hillary clinton would deal with the threat of isis. ♪ ♪
my role if elected president, i've got to look at foreign policy and look at the united states' approach to every country on earth. clearly, the middle east has been a cauldron, so volatile, so horrible and so many years, it's an area you've got to pay attention to. but you've got to pay attention to china, you've got to pay attention to latin america. >> the democratic race for president has shifted its focus to foreign policy in the wake of the brussels bombings. here's hillary clinton, the day after tuesday's attacks. >> america doesn't cower in fear or hide behind walls. we lead and we succeed. throughout our history, we have stared into the face of evil, and refused to blink.
whether it was fascism, the cold war or hunting down osama bin laden. and we will defeat isis too. >> joining me now, brittney cooper, assistant professor at rutgers, jonathan capehart and former cia officer, jack rice. i'm going to you first, jack, on this. we were talking in the last block about what kind of rhetoric and how it impacts our ability to combat terrorism, both from a practical standpoint and even from a psychological standpoint. when you hear hillary clinton saying that, how does that strike you as the verbiage to use in combatting isis? >> actually, it's completely appropriate in the case like this. when you see some of the over the top language we have heard from others during this presidential run, the problem is, that reflects exactly what it is that isis is arguing. if you think about what they're doing in the middle east right now and around the world, they're trying to make the point that the west and the u.s. in particular looks at them and i'll use this word specifically, as dogs. as less than human.
and therefore, not deserving of any compassion of any kind and any sort of logical approach. and unfortunately, that's what you see and that's what you reflect. and that's the last thing we want to do. >> at the same time, there's one element of hillary clinton's past that does keep coming up. bernie sanders keeps bringing it up and her support for the iraq war. and it's the sense she is much more of a hawk. and i'm wondering how that might impact the world's take on her as potential commander in chief. let's listen to bernie sanders along with chris hayes on monday and what he had to say about hillary clinton. >> she's obviously much more hawkish than i am. you know, i think she is perhaps apologized for a vote against the war in iraq. but i don't think that that was in a sense a mistake on her part. that is the type of aggressiveness and hawkishness that i think is what she is part of. i think the role that she played in libya in the overthrow of
gadhafi without understanding the long-term implications of regime change there and the vacuum it created for isis to come in is also a mistake. >> and so brittney, is that the flip side? so hillary clinton gets really great poll numbers on her sort of commander in chief falts qualities, but she's also that hawk. is that something that could be of concern to democratic voters? >> i don't think so. i think that the party at this point believes that this kind of aggressiveness is necessary. the thing about terror, it's a narrative that is really taken on a life of its own. so folks are absolutely fearful of walking into the airport and having something happen on u.s. soil like what happened, the tragic things that happened in brussels this week. and hillary is more sure-footed on this point. those of us on the left are very concerned and want far less hawkishness, far less militaryism. the problem is that bernie sanders still hasn't figured out the narrative, the best narrative or the best story here. he simply says, we need to be less hawkish. but the question is, how do you
make people feel more secure if the only sort of narrative we have right now is that we see ramped up terrorism, we see ramped up acts of violence across the world. and many respects many americans who feel they're sitting ducks. i do think that if sanders wants to to be compelling, he has to figure out who help people figure out addressing fear in ways that are productive. and right now hillary clinton just sounds better on these issues and has far more experience. >> to that point, jonathan, a bloomberg poll says who could best combat islamic terrorism, hillary clinton does far better than bernie sanders. she gets 65%, he gets 21. you look at the bloomberg national poll and says who would you rather have be president and bernie sanders -- this is within a margin of error, he still defeats her. is that a sign that perhaps these issues of foreign policy combatting terrorism just aren't as important to democratic voters in terms of the way they're making their decision? >> that's actually a very good question. and that might be. but let's take a look.
let's focus in on the first number you show. there is a reason why hillary clinton has 65%. in the clip you showed, senator sanders is long on criticism of what then secretary of clinton -- or then senator clinton did in terms of her vote on the iraq war. what secretary clinton did in terms of libya. but very short to nonexistent on what he would do if he were commander in chief. we have no idea what he would do in terms of going after isis. what he would do in terms of, you know, what would he do about syria? what would he do about the arab/palestinian conflict with israel. what would he do about libya. what would he do to help europe combat the terrorist threat that is now being unleashed, not only on brussels, but on paris, but also in africa, as i mentioned in the last segment. we don't know what that is. whenever senator sanders is asked about foreign policy, he always pifrts back to the iraq war and criticizes hillary
clinton on libya. >> and jack, i think it is now very much a common belief among military experts, among people in your former profession that invading iraq was a terrible idea. so bernie sanders is not wrong that it created this whole constellation of other problems we're dealing with now. but on the question of bernie sanders, simple declaration of not passivism but saying we need to be less hawkish in general. how does that then reverberate in people in your community about what kind of a commander in chief he would be, and is that a message around the world that is comforting to potential lies? >> i think it seems naive, frankly. but one aspect of this i'm still troubled by. it seems to be coming from bernie sanders to some degree and also those on the right. and it's about this concept of regime change. here's the problem. is the units has historically supported total aaron regimes around the world. let's contemplate egypt, saudi arabia, libya, let's contemplate pakistan.
again and again and again. and part of the problem in the middle east is no matter what the americans say, and i don't care who you shine up. left or right. we continue to do that for decade after decade after decade. and in the middle east, people will look at this and say, the americans want these regimes to crush us, to keep us down. but the problem is, it reflects what we have done as a policy. left and right. and we still have to reconcile that, left and right. >> yeah, indeed. and to that point of left and right, donald trump -- we have that piece up right now. and it's right on time. there is a cnn/orc poll who says who could best terrorism. look at donald trump at 33%, hillary clinton at 30, sanders at 11%. the caveat to that, donald trump is in a sense the least hawkish of the candidates remaining for president. he's the anti neocon. he went after george w. bush for invading iraq. what does that poll tell you? >> first of all, i don't know who donald trump is actually going to be on foreign policy, because to me, he seems like a
m megalomaniac and also deeply incendiary. so these days he really seems to be playing on people's fears. so the sort of rhetoric he has about muslim folks in the country, keeping them out of the country, the rhetoric he has about locking -- getting mexican folks out of the country does not show he's a trustworthy person on foreign policy. and since he's a man who changes position within an interview on a given day, i'm not so sure i actually believe he wouldn't invade someone, just because he has the power to do so. and i think that's really important. but i think there is another point here that's really important. so while i too would prefer a foreign policy that is far less hawkish, the thing that i think we aren't saying is that hillary clinton -- there is something about the gender dynamics here that matter, as well. could a woman be the first president and run by saying she was going to be less hawkish. that would make her seem soft on
foreign policy and play into every gender stereotype we have about a woman not able to be a leader the united states. i think she is a hawk but also positioned in a way she has to be a hawk. and we need to be honest about that. >> and i think that is a very good point. and i think it also informed her response, in addition to being a senator from new york, to the question of whether to invade iraq. i think it's important. thank you for making it. jack rice and my other guests will be back. and a new report, meanwhile, finds that the state of michigan is fundamentally accountable for the water crisis in flint. more on that, next. (engine winding up)
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on wednesday, north carolina enacted one of the country's most draconian anti lgbt laws, one that would prevent cities and counties from passing their own laws to prohibit discrimination. state lawmakers called a special session, solely to overturn the city of charlotte's new anti discrimination ordinance, which expressly allowed transgender residents to use the restroom that fits their gender identity. meanwhile, in georgia, the republican governor must soon decide whether to sign hb-757, which critics say would allow faith-based organizations to deny services or employment based on sexual orientation. the nfl, disney and marvel are among the companies threatening to take their business out of georgia, if the bill becomes law. and here with me is brittney cooper and anna aidens, vice president of you can play. mara kiesling, and jonathan
capehart. thank you all for being here. i want to go to you first, maia. you were actually in raleigh, north carolina, when this bill was being signed into law. talk about a., what that experience was like and why you think this bathroom panic legislation is being -- was enacted. >> good morning, joy. yes, i was in raleigh. and it was a remarkable display of a legislature out of control, with all the real problems in north carolina, unemployment and lack of insurae. they don't hold special sessions for that. yet i think they saw a political opportunity. they thought they saw a population, marginalized population that wouldn't fight back. and they saw political opportunity for the governor, and they went with a special session at a cost of $50,000. it was just outrageous. transgender people and other
people came to speak and were -- five people were given two minutes each, and that was it. and then the voting happened. and it was an outrageous display of ren-away extremist legislature. >> let's talk about what the bill actually does. this is the bill already enacted. hb-2, this bill, are number one, bans individuals from using public restrooms that do not correspond with the gender stated on their birth certificate. blocks cities for transgender individuals to use bathrooms for the sex they identify with and declares that state law overrides all local ordinances concerning wages, employment and accommodations. jonathan, was there a precipitating event? did something happen that prompted north carolina to enact a special session to create this law? >> yeah. it was charlotte. it was the city of charlotte having the temerity to institute
a law to include gender identity and had a provision in there to allow transgender people to use the bathroom that conforms to their gender identity. and here's what's remarkable, even more remarkable about what north carolina did. on -- the bill was not revealed until wednesday. it was passed by the general assembly, passed by the senate with all democrats walking out of the senate and refusing to vote on it and signed by the governor in less than 24 hours in a special session that no one knew what the special session was about until they got there. by doing this, north carolina avoided what happened in indiana when that state decided to go for a so-called religious freedom law. a religious freedom bill. and so by doing this, by surprise, and doing it in less than 24 hours, they -- they were able to block the backlash in indiana received before the governor had a chance to sign the bill into law.
but as we're seeing happen right now, and as mara talked about, the lgbt community and allies of lgbt community are not taking this lying down. they are going -- they're very angry, they're demonstrating against this. and clearly, what the governor did and what the republican controlled legislature did is reprehensible. >> yeah, and i'm going to come to the panel in a second. i want to go to you one more time, mara. we have seen corporations come out and oppose this, american airlines, apple, bank of america, paypal, lowes, a backlash from some companies about this. on a practical level, what does it mean that somebody who is transgender now -- do people have to take their birth certificates with them to the public restroom? i don't understand how this law can be enforced? >> no, it can't be enforced. and we're hearing from the state government they really actually don't have any idea how they'll enforce it and whether they're he will force it.
they actually say that you use the bathroom according to your biological sex as expressed on your birth certificate. that's actually your bureaucratic sex, if you will. there are people, for instance, in neighboring tennessee who can never change their birth certificate under any circumstances. there are people who have changed their birth certificates who north carolina doesn't understand that. we're going to see bearded men in women's rooms. i mean, the governor has just unleashed a thing that he had no idea when he started it. and the legislature doesn't understand what they have done. and they did it all by claiming that transgender people were predators and rapists. and i think we all know that story by now. when donald trump says mexican immigrants are rapists. when -- in all other civil rights movements. when people are called rapists and predators and we must protect our women, you know that it's just a scare tactic. >> let's move to george.
as surprising and shocking as it was to see north carolina do this, georgia, for whatever reason, surprised me more. we have now seen a bunch of companies come out against the law that has not yet been signed. just a bill at this point in georgia. and you've already had del, time warner, sewn pictures, comcast, the threat the walking dead will no longer be shot in atlanta. $100 million was generated being shot there. why georgia and what could be the risks of a similar law being enacted there? >> well, i think it's very scary. north carolina, you already have so many youth afraid. lgbt youth in particular are already afraid to go into the locker rooms. are already afraid to be on sports teams and to be authentic about who they are. and with georgia, what's unique right now is that you see the nfl putting pressure about the super bowl and atlanta. and atlanta has put i think 27.5 million already into the
stadium and into hosting it. so the nfl is saying, this does not align with our values. and we are concerned about our fan experience. it's not just about the money. it's also about the values. and are our fans going to come to the super bowl and be safe. thing is an opportunity which is significant to not do what indiana did last year. to not do what north carolina just did. which is, again, devastating to youth, it's sending a terrible message. and i think it's victim-blaming. i think, you know, especially transyouth, they're the ones who are subjected to violence in schools. transwomen of color have a disproportionate murder rate. these are the people who should be protected in the bathrooms. the -- mara brought up the policing of bathrooms and how are we going to do that? are kids going to go and say to a boy, are you a boy or girl? you can't go into this bathroom. is someone on a sports team going to say, show me your birth certificate? it's very scary and i hope that georgia's governor and other states really see the ramifications and the backlash. t nba has also taken a stand in
north carolina and i think that's significant. >> nba has talked about the all-star game and threats to the -- the economic threats. the interesting thing, you are seeing this huge backlash and the threat of taking away this valuable commodity sports, athletics, production, et cetera. and i'm wondering why they need to take the risk. in the case of georgia, it's a religious liberty, essentially businesses don't have to do business with lgbt people if they don't want to. i don't understand why states would take that risk when you have south carolina get back into the fold and get away from boy costs by bringing down the confederate flag and then two other states in the south decide to throw up the wall. i don't understand it. >> this is morally repug nanlt. i think it's important to say that. these states often have a significant evangelical christian base and are trying to deploy this as part of a moral panic about the deny immigration of society which they frequently mark by simple things like having gender binaries in
bathrooms. for instance at home, do you have gender binary bathrooms at home? most of us have neutral gender bathrooms at home, right? so the most basic thing we can do for people is make sure when you need to use the bathroom, you can go to the most convenient place to do so. the fact that we think the bathrooms should be politicized is evidence of how morally obtuse and obscure this conversation is. and i think that we also need to recognize that this narrative about transgender people as a threat. most sexual predators actually identify as being heterosexual. and they're sis gender, meaning their biological gender and sex match, right? so this is all about a sort of moral panic. and here's the reason why it bothers me personally. last year, during easter season, indiana tried to pass a religious liberty law. this year during easter season, this is what north carolina is doing. i think it's whistle politics to the base. and this does not jive with my
religious tradition. i think that the kind of christianity we should believe in, one shouldn't be part of politics, but also that providing people access to bathrooms is a basic human right. that's something we can do. we don't have to make our morals be part of that conversation. >> i'm quite sure this will continue to be litigated. we will definitely keep an eye on it. thank you very much to anna auganis and mara and jonathan cooper. thank you very much. where the scandal is rocking the governor's mansion in mbah a moute. stay tuned. and life's beautiful moments. with flonase allergy relief, they wont. when we breathe in allergens, our bodies react by over producing six key inflammatory substances that cause our symptoms. most allergy pills only control one substance. flonase controls six. and six is greater than one. flonase outperforms the #1 non-drowsy allergy pill. so you can seize those moments, wherever you find them. flonase. six is greater than one changes everything.
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mason, his senior political adviser, and alleged mistress. spencer collier, ousted as the head of the alabama law enforcement agency this week held a press conference on wednesday to expose the alleged affair. which he said has been ongoing since at least 2014. and in the grand old tradition of political theatre, bentley apologized. sort of. >> today i want to apologize to the people of the state of alabama. and once again, i want to apologize to my family. i am truly sorry. and i accept full responsibility. i want everyone to know, though, that i have never had a physical affair with mrs. mason. >> and then came the leaked audio of governor bentley apparently saying some salacious things to ms. mason.
>> governor bentley said he did not break any state laws during this nonphysical relationship. much attention has been focused on rebecca mason herself, who collier had some choice words for. >> it has become apparent to me that rebecca mason has willed to the level of influence over both the governor and state government that i have never seen in all my years of public service. it's part of my law enforcement career, i've talked body language. she had a level of anger that i rarely have seen as a law enforcement officer.
governor bentley was elected by an overwhelming majority to the people of this state. but rebecca mason was not elected by anyone. and the level of influence that she is yielding makes her the de facto governor. >> mason responded to collier's comments calling them on example of gender bias. collier brought up pretty relevant point, however. >> i don't even think you know who even pays miss mason. >> but now we do. sort of. al.com reports ms. mason is not a state employee and paid by the alabama council for executive government, does not have to report its donations, because technically it's a nonprofit. the nature of mason's employment could be a big problem for governor bentley. yesterday, alabama state auditor called for an ethics investigation into the legality of mason's status and whether the governor misused state funds for the purpose of their relationship. but there is one person who is
still on mason's side. her husband. who said he long ago resolved the personal issue playing out now for everyone this week. governor belmontly's wife, meanwhile, filed for divorce seven months ago. he refused to comment as to whether his relationship with miss mason had anything to do with it. much more, but not about that. when we come back. allergies with nasal congestion? find ft relief behind the counter with claritin-d. [ upbeat music ] strut past that aisle for the allergy relief that starts working in as little as 30 minutes and contains the best
all right. after that epic story that we all want to forget right now, joining me now still is brittany cooper as well as chloe angel, and in washington, dc, jonathan capehart, who i do believe had the same reaction to that story as i did. who won the week? >> donald trump won the week. here's why. his fight with ted cruz over heidi cruz completely moved the conversation away from his assertion that he would drop tactical nuclear weapons on isis. think about that. >> that's right. it was a distraction, probably
not the one he wanted. chloe, who won the week? >> mine is less joyful. this was a banner week for bigots building off of that last segment you did, a real win this week for people who would pit transgender women by protecting the safety and dignity of transgender people we are opening the door for sexual violence. >> does it become a win if the economic backlash in georgia is so severe they wind up harming the state? >> this is a backlash against what progress we have made for gay and bess llesbian and bisex people, by targeting the most vulnerable group in that acronym, disadvantaging veterans, gay, lesbian, and bisexual people. they're using gay people as a
scapegoat. >> serena williams won the week. she basically caused raymond well to resign based on his statements that women should bow down and get on their knees and thank men because they were riding on their coattails. it changed the game and the amount of money media can make. when you put them in prime time, you make millions and millions of dollars. she critiqued his sexism and said women shouldn't get on their knees for anybody at this point. she's really effected a race/gender coup. she came back last year triumphant after being the subject of racial taunts in the early 2000s. they've shifted the racial climate there. now she's forcing a shift in the gender climate. >> talk about some people who lost this week. i'll come back to you, jonathan. the issue of arizona, i think
voters in arizona really gave us a textbook look at what the post voting rights act world could look like. look that that map, the number of polling locations available to primary voters of 2012 versus 2016. jonathan, helen purcell, the maricopa county public recorder, took responsibility for what happened. is this a good reason for democrats to maybe start talking about the voting rights act? >> yes. yes, it is. and, you know, here's the thing. people, democrats have been talking about the voting rights act since the last election when all the states rushed to put in voting restrictions before the 2012 election. my hope is not just democrats are talking about it, by that i mean democratic leaders and elected officials, but that democratic voters will realize there are forces out there trying to restrict their access to the ballot box, and by restricting the access to the ballot box, could shift the
election. if they were willing to stand in line, as we were seeing there in the video, for hours to vote for the reelection of barack obama, they definitely need to come out and stand in line for hours to cast their vote for a democrat. because that is the only way that a democrat will win in november. >> and to the table, the democratic candidates, both bernie sanders and hillary clinton, are they making a mistake not talking more about the voting rights act? >> absolutely, they are being distracted. this is a key way, if they want to run away from the sort of polarizing conversation about black lives matter, which i think is a mistake, this is still a safe but important racial justice issue. the democrats can't win without a young voter base. and all the folks who use expanded polling terms. >> on the issue of women becoming front and center in the republican campaign, how much of a setback are we talking about in this discussion? >> i'll reiterate what i said earlier. i think it's masculinity that's becoming front and center.
on the left you have people talking about how is hillary clinton's gender affecting how she's running and her rest owe assistance with the voters. meanwhile, we have a penis measuring contest on the right side of the aisle. >> chloe angel, jonathan capehart, brittany cooper, thank you for being here. thank you for watching. i'll be back at 4:00 p.m. eastern time. next, alex witt with the latest on the terrorism investigation in brussels and the presidential race. stay with us on msnbc. it took joel silverman years to become a master dog trainer. but only a few commands to master depositing checks at chase atms. technology designed for you. so you can easily master the way you bank.
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