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about, for the most part, as well as a number of other things. back to you. >> ron allen outside the white house. that's going to do it for this hour. i'm steve kornacki. mtp daily starts right now. if it's thursday, is it the straw that broke the elephant's back? we could be looking at the turning point for the anti-trump movement. it all depends on what happens in wisconsin. this is mtp daily and it starts right now. good evening, i'm chuck todd here in washington. welcome to thursday's "mtp daily." circle today's date on the calendar, folks. is this the tipping point for trump and his relationship with the republican establishment and the republican party? is this the moment that the republican party who wasn't
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excited about trump realizes, now it might be better to risk alienating trump and losing supporters than soldier forward with his enormous baggage. we've been here before. it's something that something happens to change everything, like it's done so many times and it doesn't. yes we realize we're making this point on the even of april fools' day. here's why this could be the tipping point. for nearly ten months the republican party has been bent, twisted stressed to maximum breaking point thanks to the weight of trump's call them controversies. these are just a few of the things trump has said which either he had to walk back or earned him swift enunciation within his own party. start with going after john mccain's war record, saying he's not a war hero, he was a war hero because he's captured. einsulted carly fiorina, say look at that face, she's a
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woman, i'm not supposed to say bad things. er toer to fur, i would bring back waterboarding. then more hot water he'd order the military to carry out potentially illegal orders, what i say to do as i tell them, they'll do as i tell them. comments about minorities and religion. called for a total and complete shutdown of muslims entering the united states temporarily, he say thinks islam hates america, talking about using nuclear weapons and not ruling out using them in europe. he told chris matthews, i'm not going to take it off the table. that brings it's to the latest firestorm over punishing women who seek if abortion became illegal which he walked back in two subsequent statements. we didn't mention the arrest his campaign manager, trump's comments about mexican immigrants, blood feud with
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megan kelly, comments about the size of his hands. put it together and take a look at a sampling of how members of his own party have reacted to his candidacy under these conditions. >> donald trump is a narcissist and he's an ego maniac. >> he's backing a jackass. a jackass. >> he's the kim dkardashian of politics. >> donald trump is a delusional narcissist and orange-faced wind bag. >> donald trump's candidacy is a cancer on conservatism it must be diagnosed, excised and discarded. >> donald trump is a phony, a fraud. his promises are as worthless as a degree from trump university. >> he is a con artist. guys we have a con artist as the front-runner in the republican party. >> donald trump would be a disaster as the nominee. >> so that leads uso the gop's
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worries about collateral damage. those were just once and future presidential candidates. republicans running down ballot believe they'll be weighed down by trump's baggage. democrats trying to tie vulnerable republicans like barbara comstock of virginia or senator kelly ayotte, mark kick, pat toomey, tying to tie trump's comments about women and abortion. this is march, my friends. the front page of today's "the washington post" looks like a nightmare scenario for the gop. look at how republicans could lose the house. where they hold a pretty large advantage. with trump at the top of the ticket. and the university of virginia center for politics debuted its first national scorecard in a head-to-head matchup between trump and clinton. having hillary clinton winning more electoral votes than barack obama in either 2008 or 2012. project her at 347.
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they couldn't come up with a single toss-up state. seeing trump's rivals to break the glass emergency scenarios where they try to turn their back on the party and rnc if he's the nominee. >> i don't make a habit out of supporting people who attack my wife and attack my family. >> i have two 16 twin daughters and whenever i say if he happened to be the nominee i would have to tell them why i would endorse him if i did. so i have my two daughters. >> then brace yourself, happy warrior, john kasich is on the war path against trump. this morning he held a press conference in new york where he ran through point by point attack on trump calling him unprepared to control a nuclear arsenal as commander in chief. we're expecting kasich to hold his second press conference of the day as he attempts to sharpen attacks on trump. remember, he, for months, said
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he would not be that guy. he's changed his tune over last 48 hours. we'll take you there when it begins. which leads us to the most intriguing news of the day. with tensions boiling over in the party, trump held a meeting with the rnc today in washington. cameras briefly spotted him arriving at back door and roughly, 45 minutes later, left with a wave to our cameras and tweeted this, quote, just had a very nice meeting with rance priebus and the gop, looking forward to bringing the party together, and it will happen! rnc characterized the meeting as, quote, productive conversation about the state of the race. and a trump aide told john harwood that priebus and trump discussed the upcoming election, election financing and general election activities. they did not discuss trump's comments about dumping the rnc's loyalty pledge nor what he said about abortion. for more, let me go to luke russert from outside rnc headquarters. he was staking it out all day. one way to tie up capitol hill. half of the city tied up with
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the nuclear summit. your side of the city tied up by the trump motorcade. >> reporter: pretty wild stuff, chuck. we knew that donald trump was going to be in washington, d.c., today. that news broke in the morning, presumably to have meetings pertaining to foreign policy. those occurred over at trump hotel being built. then a rumor came about that he was going to come to rnc. the rnc's a stone's throw away from capitol hill. we went over here, staked him out for a few hours. he came through, saw that big mound of blond hair through the tint of suv and he pulled in. he had a one-hour meeting with rance priebus, the chairman of the rnc, the rnc releasing a statement said that he had a positive discussion about the current state of the race and chairman priebus will be reaching out to every candidate who is remaining, who wants to have these type of discussions. john harwood heard from the trump camp, a conversation was mainly about delegates. delegate rules at the rnc convention in cleveland coming
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up in july and how the allocation process would move forward. i can report from communications with rnc official that this meeting was in fact scheduled last week, it was originally supposed to be ten minutes and ballooned into an hour, party unity also on the docket. so, a lot of things being discussed, presumably one would think that maybe rance priebus would suggest tone down the rhetoric to donald trump because, as you mentioned, chuck, in he are worried about that building behind me about his effect on down ballot races, the senate, the house in play. if you look at projections. but donald trump showing face here and for all accounts at least on the surface, positive how the meeting was described. >> all right. luke, appreciate it. he had another meeting he was going to do foreign policy advisers as well. luke russert, thank you. my next guest at center of the trump storm as a candidate in the republican primary before he dropped out. bob j. jindal slammed trump as
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narcissist and ego maniac in september. he told us two weeks ago he wasn't ready to dump trump just yet. >> i am going to be supporting the republican nominee. i think it's important -- >> even if it's donald trump? >> the next president -- even if it's donald trump. i hope it's not him. he's still not my favorite. that don't mean i've changed my tune since september. >> but you just -- well, we're going to ask him again. former louisiana governor and republican presidential candidate, bobby jindal joins me now. welcome back an bit of a satellite delay. i'll try to cover up for that. let me start with what you said two weeks ago to me, have you changed your tune? >> i have not, chuck. thank you for having me back. you used many great analogies is, but hopefully this is the week donald trump jumps the shark. i don't know if viewers remember fondy jumping the shark. the ridiculous comments about abortion, campaign manager getting arrested.
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who knows. he seems to bounce back from all of these things. i'm not a fan of donald trump. there's still time to beat him. i'm going to support my party's nominee. i don't think we can afford hillary clinton in office. one thing that donald trump can do. he'll never be able to convince somebody like me in the time he's got left he's a conservative. he won't convince somebody like me who is a serious policy guy. what he can start doing is saying who are the types of people he'd put around him, who would he appoint as secretary of defense, secretary of state. show us he's willing to tap trusted, principled conservatives. you're never going to convert people like me into being fans of donald trump. at least show people he'll have real conservatives around him. >> given you're the former head of the louisiana republican party, essentially, as a former governor, let me ask you about -- we know some of the meeting today with trump has to do with and the fact that i think they were blindsided is not the right word, unprepared
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how the delegate selection process work. are you comfortable with the fact that your home state party is awarding more delegates to candidate that came in second rather than the candidate that won the state primary? >> sure. let look at what happened. trump got 40% of votes in louisiana. he'll get 40% of the delegates. what happened, for example, five delegates committed to marco rubio. cruz was able to go and convince them, now that rubio's no longer running, to switch their support to him. there were five uncommitted delegates. his folks were able to convince them to switch the support to cruz. frankly, cruz outworked, outorganized donald trump on the ground here reality is rules were in place before donald trump was a candidate. i don't think it's fair. i've said it before on your show as well, i don't think it's fair to break or change rules to stop donald trump. i don't think it's fair to break or change rules to elect donald trump either. i'm for making rules clearer, fairer, more transparent at the state, at the national level. but you don't change rules in the middle of the process. and this idea that donald
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trump's going to sue the party is nonsense. he's not going to sue them like he's not suing ted cruz. he threatened to sue ted cruz based on his eligibility to run. if he wants to win, if he wants to be nominee, he needs to stop threatening people, stop whining, stop trying to change the rules and go and work. build a majority, attract people originally supporting other candidates to join your cause. he hasn't been able to do that yet. if he wants to win, that's what he's got to do. >> are you comfortable with the idea, the way the rules work, certainly the way the rules are in the rnc, le could be the guy that gets the most votes during the primaries the guy that has the most delegates earned through the primary process but short of what he needs. are you comfortable if he doesn't get the nomination? rules say that somebody once you get to the second, third, fourth and rules don't get written for how that election is conducted until after the primary process. are you comfortable if it's somehow makes it so trufrm trump
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doesn't win? what do you tell his voters if he's the leading delegate guy going in but comes out without the nomination? >> a couple of things. recalls say you have to have a majority, not plurality. if they wanted a candidate with plurality they would have written the rules differently. if that's the case, there's time to beat them, if that happens, it's important that party leaders not rig the process, not try to get behind closed doors and select an anointed candidate. they don't -- here's the problem with and the rnc rules. look at rules in place. rules were written to help protect mitt romney, fight the last battle. that's why it makes sense to rewrite them after this contest is over. it's not just a republican problem. on the democratic side you've got superdelegates, bernie sanders saying he can win new hampshire by 20 and didn't get more delegates than hillary clinton. he's rightfully pointing out their process isn't fair. i'm all for changing rules and
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making it transparent and giving voters more of a direct say but do it after not in the middle of the process. it's like complaining in the middle of a football game. you can't change the rules. . you can change the rules after the season. my party pay attention to voters. they are frustrated. yes, mad at obama, yes mad at liberal policies, mad at conservatives, mad at republicans for not doing to say what they're going to do. it would be a mistake for the party to ignore the frustration that donald trump tapped into. >> let me ask you, are you comfortable using every fair rule that is on the books, at the rnc, doing whatever it takes to prevent trump as the nominee has long as you do it within the rules? >> sure. look, it's -- >> is that what you want to see done? do whatever it takes, you know, in a fair way to stop him? that is your goal? >> a couple of things.
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politics -- what was the old saying from the movie, no crying in baseball. there's no cry in politics. we're going nominate somebody we want to be leader of the free world, president of the united states. if donald trump wants the nomination he needs to build a coalition, attract support. i'm not a fan of donald trump, i don't think he's a conservative. i think he would have the toughest time winning in november as our nominee. i prefer to see somebody else as our nominee. other candidates are able to play by the rules and fight harder, work harder, outorganize him and win, i think the ideal situation someone gets votes to get delegates before the convention. but if nobody has majority, i'm fine if the candidate that's able to put together that coalition according to rules and does it in a fair, transparent way, absolutely. i hope they're a conversation. >> do you think the nominee if it's not trump should be somebody who ran? that it shouldn't come from somebody -- this idea of a paul ryan? you comfortable with that? >> no, look, i like paul, we're friends. i -- i have a lot of respect for
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paul. but i think it's like -- it's a great hypothetical situation. it's most likely going to be somebody running. most likely one of the three guys still running now. be honest. there's hypothetical situations if somebody's dropped out, getting back in most likely one of the three still running is going to be our nominee. >> you're not going to endorse between cruz and kasich? >> no. look, i endorsed myself first, i endorsed rubio second. my endorsement is not doing a lot of good for anybody now. i'm going to support the nominee. i'm not endorsing donald trump. i'm not encouraging anybody to vote for donald trump. i don't want it to be donald trump. you knowed a snippet of the press conference, the speech i gave in september, it went longer than that. i got some of the harshest rhetoric. i not one of these changing my tune. >> would you serve in a donald trump administration if he asked you? you said you're curious to see, is there any scenario you would be serving under president
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trump? >> he's not going to ask me after everything i've said. i don't want a job in the next administration period. >> you would not return that phone call? >> i don't -- i made it very clear, i don't have respect for him as a conservative. i don't like his policies. i don't like his demeanor. he's not calling me. that's an easy thing to say. that's clearly -- i'm not looking for a job in the next administration. i'm worried about ply country. i am very, very interested there being ai constitution supporting of the supreme court. i think chances of donald trump doing that aren't great. the chances of hillary clinton doing that are zero. at least with donald trump there's a chance. >> bobby jindal, thank you, sir. good to talk to you. just five days until the badger state ballots are cast. look at how the republican race is shaping and talk with wisconsin radio host, charlie sykes. bill clinton rallying supporters
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hillary clinton and reignite america's promise. >> trump could have been tailor made for wisconsin. stay with a high population of working class and small town conservatives but he's struggling there. donald trump held steady at 30% since february. his opponents have seen double digit gains since the field narrowed cruz gone from trailing trump to leading him by ten points as trump's number hasn't moved trump does better where the conversation divisions are deep enough to exploit. that might not be the case in wisconsin. the conservative movement is happy in wisconsin. a pro-donald trump super pac trying to give him help, whether he wants it or not. starts in wisconsin, the great america pac running a new ad aimed at women. >> i get grief when i say i'm voting for donald trump. but i want to protect my family. paris, san bernardino, brussels, i want a president that will keep us safe. we need to control our borders and stop letting in dangerous
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people. trump will do that and ted cruz, he wanted to let in more syrian refugees and give amnesty to illegal immigrants. >> for more on what's going on in wisconsin republican politics joined by the conservative gate keeper 0 of wisconsin radio, charlie sykes who interviewed ted cruz today, had trump earlier. welcome. >> good to be with you. >> let me start with this. why on one hand when you look at rules of wisconsin's primary voting, open primary, anybody can vote on either side, that's tailor made for trump in the past. good for him in michigan. why is it that wisconsin conservatives seem to be rejecting trump at a greater number than, say, michigan conservatives did? >> maybe we have better b.s. meters here. the conversation voters in wisconsin, we're battle tested. we have been through the fire going back to 2010, the fight over act so 10, recall of
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governor walker. a group of conservative voters engage, savvy, locked in. and frankly, recognize a natural conservative versus a fake conservative. that's part of the difference. we do have a different culture in wisconsin. i tried to tell mr. trump that on monday where we value things like civility, decency, rationality, reasonableness, none of which characterized donald trump's cam pine here. he's not a very good fit. he's got a solid bloc, 30% but 70% of wisconsin republicans anti-trump and they're coalescing, but they're not moving and he's not adding to his base. >> if you're a good watch or of wisconsin politics, of the three candidates left whovg would have the best chance at carrying wisconsin against hillary clinton? >> well, the numbers would suggest that john kasich does but that's without negative attention. most people don't know much about john kasich.
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hillary clinton is vulnerable here. there's a lack of enthusiasm. but that poll sows that ted cruz runs even. one thing that's obvious is wisconsinites really don't like donald trump. donald trump is not going to win in wisconsin. he has a 70% disapproval rating in wisconsin, and among women, that's interesting, running an ad targeting women. that's where he's got the problem. what's draving his numbers in wisconsin are conservative republican women who look at donald trump and they are rappel by the way he treats women. 77%. >> i would mirror what we nationally in our poll had it at 70%, including 40% of republican women with a negative rating. >> let me ask you this, though, is ted cruz too conservative to win the state? >> i don't know. ted cruz is basic willy the consensus candidate right now
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among conservatives in wisconsin who understand that if we're going to be a fire wall of rationality if we stop donald trump from getting to 1237 at convention, then he's going to have to be stopped in wisconsin and the only candidate who can stop the move in wisconsin is ted cruz. that's interesting in wisconsin. he may not have been a natural fit in wisconsin but you have a lot of former walker supporters, rubio supporters sucking it up and saying we've got to swallow, we understand exactly the state of play here. voters here are very, very savvy. and i think they're making a tactical decision. >> it's interesting the establishment, whatever -- when you refer to establishment of the republican party, in wisconsin, boy, you guys are providing establishmenting walker, ryan, rance priebus, right? so, should we view a donald trump losing in wisconsin as sort of the revenge of the establishment? >> no.
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it's the mainstream conservatives who finally woke up. this is going to be the first state where he doesn't have the air cover that they got from some of the conservative national talk hoe hos show hostt the end one in wus which but every major talk show host in wisconsin is anti-trump. you have an informed and engaged electorate told about donald trump where he has been held accountable for his actions and for his inactions and his buffoonery. what you're going to see is when conservatives actually get that picture, they're going to vote for somebody else. in my area, in southeastern wisconsin, donald trump is, i think he had an approval rating of something like 25, 26% of the vote. and that's a result of the fact that he's been exposed for months and months and months by people who actually know what a real conservative looks like because here in wisconsin we have actual conservatives. >> it's interesting you say that. i had a veteran consultant, a source of mine who has done a
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lot of races in wisconsin and said wisconsin talk radio is unique, you don't pair it the national talk radio conservative guys. it's not a local guy's pa parretting. do you believe the national talk radio leaders have enabled trump too much? i'm not going to ask you to name names. i know that becomes a fight. >> no, no, i'm not going to name the names of any of the guy whose have sold out the values and become fan boys like sean hannity, i wouldn't name a name. but there is -- there's going to have to become a point of reckoning where you ask yourself, do you believe those things that you said you believed in, those principles? and if you do, how did you decide to drink the donald trump kool-aid? there's a real contrast between the talk radio environment in wisconsin and what you've had elsewhere. it's interesting that donald trump is coming back to milwaukee on monday night.
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>> sunday night. >> but he's not having a town hall meeting with any local talk show hosts. he's bringing in sean hannity because he couldn't find somebody on the air here who would serve him that kind of -- the questions he'd prefer to get. >> i have a feeling we'll be hearing a lot from you. on wisconsin all over the country. thanks for coming on. john kasich, by the way, speaking in philadelphia right now. continuing his attacks on donald trump. let's take a listen. >> because they believe that's a pass to paradise. all of us are infidels that need to be destroyed in order to give them a chance to meet, to be able to enter paradise. the fact is, is that the civilized world, the ara muslims, the saudis, egyptians, jordanians, gulf states, they need to be joined with us, europeans and of course the united states, to destroy isis. we can't wait any longer from
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colleague andrea mitchell this afternoon on msnbc. >> to suggest that nuclear weapons are not to be used only at least initially and preferably always as a deterrent to their use, i think is not a very responsible approach. secondly, in terms of the spread of nuclear weapons further, once again, it's a terrible idea, to put it bluntly. i'm afraid this kind of talk in an election is just bluntly irresponsible and is detrimental to our and all of our allies security posture. >> have you heard from allies about this? >> we have heard many comments about many statements made in this campaign. >> i will take that as a yes. >> joining me now, ambassador,
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former ambassador, wendy sherman, senior counselor at allbright group. wendy sherman is also a hillary clinton support somewhere very involved in cutting the iran deal. nice to see you. >> good to be with you. >> let me start big picture here. give us -- there is an initial nuclear posture the tcountry ha, what is it. >> it's interesting as secretary clinton said, we see donald trump ad-libbing about nuclear weapons the same time president obama, secretary moniz meeting with 50 leaders, trying to reduce the stockpile of weaponser reduce the amount of material gotten by a terrorist, secure borders with radioactive detectors doing all of the things we need to do. we have nuclear weapons as a deterrent. we don't have a policy where we're going to go out and offensively use nuclear weapons. we use them in response, if
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needed. but it's a deterrence. and one of the reasons president obama got the nobel peace prize, he hopes, make not in his life, we get to zero nuclear weapons. >> donald trump criticized for being too off the cuff on the nuclear thing. isn't it the posture of any president who always says i'm never going to take anything off the table? i mean, in fairness to him, he's been criticized for that one remark i've heard plenty of presidents say i don't take anything off the table. >> the problem with mr. trump is that he believes everything is like the art of a deal of a business transaction about building a building. international affairs in the role of the commander in chief is a much more consequential, with all due respect to developers -- my father was in real estate -- with all due respect to businessmen it's complicated, it involves the
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world's security, it involves whether the world is going to blow up, it's consequential. he showed in those comments he's not ready to be commander in chief. he says whatever comes off of the top of his head, whether about nato, nuclear weapons, or what our posture is in the world. pew came out with a new poll, 60% of the american people believe the world does better when we are involve. we have a responsibility as the last remaining super power to lead in this world with others helping us out, not all on our own but to lead. >> i want to stick with nuclear. three countries that i think were concerned could decide to go out on their own to get weapons, one saudi arabia, japan, south korea. set trump aside for a second. how concerned are you those three will pursue a nuclear strategy? >> i don't believe they will pursue a nuclear strategy. they all want to know they could have one if they wanted one and they use it and put it out sort
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of in the ether as if this say, be careful we may go down this road. >> using it to get our attention. >> using it to get our attention, the world's attention. they're using it as a deterrent to others who think they may attack them. one of the things that we did, the reason why the iran fluke deal was so important, why the president believed that we should never allow iran to obtain nuclear weapons is because if iran had a nuclear weapon they could project enormous power into the middle east and act as a deterrent against our actions and actions of israel and our partners in the gulf region and in the world at large. >> is it important for either this president or the next president to declare our middle eastern allies as part of the american nuclear umbrella. >> a discussion that's been ongoing and i suspect it will continue to be discussed. >> you're an outsider here. is it something that should be considered? >> i think we should talk about how we can give people the kind of back stop that they're looking for. president obama, secretary
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kerry, secretary clinton be have met with the gulf over the years to try to say, what do you need to make sure that you feel secure? there are many ways to do that. we've done some of the things necessary. i think today's meeting is important. out of the meeting happening in the nuclear security summit, we're going to have an oning contact group to try to keep moving in the direction that we need. >> is this summit dead after president obama leaves office. >> this is a big concern. >> it doesn't look like there's any motivation to do this after he leaves. where is secretary clinton on this? are you advising her to keep it up. >> i think it would be great to keep it up personally. what they have done is create a nuclear security contact group of high level officials who will follow up on what's come out. they've put together five action plans to make sure action plans happen. if that occurs, that will be a very good thing because the follow-up matters. we've done 50% of the reduction of materials we're afraid of that terrorists could get hold of, but we've got to get to
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rita, morning consult. welcome to you all. sarah, i'll going to start with you. former rnc veteran as well. trump meeting with preibis, whether you have differences with the republican national committee, how they've done debates or anything else, i don't think you can say it's been unfair, the media coverage he has been get anything general. he has been out trashing them. it shows a lot of spine by him to say he wants to sit down face-to-face. you're saying it on cnn. >> well, part of this also, it seems as though the trump folks are upset about what happened in louisiana. they realize it could happen in other states. it really looks like they're learning the rules as they go. >> and knowing the rules is the most important thing in this whole process. let's be very clear here. about 1,500 delegates have been
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allocated, but only 500 have been named. >> right. >> we don't know who the other 1,000 are. when they're actually named in the conventions, those are the delega delegates who are voting you on the first ballot, but on the second ballot. if trump doesn't know who their universe is, they're going to get caught in the second ballot. he must win on the first ballot, because on the second ballot, a lot of the voters are not trump fans. >> i don't want to skip you, doug, i want to go back to sar rad ra on the rnc delegates. it's usually the same pool that are these people. they're traditional republican activists, aren't they? >> absolutely. >> maybe trump delegates. >> that's right. i do think more people were brought into the party, because so many candidates in a state like ohio, you look at a state like south carolina, they're going to have to re-visit to the number of delegates trump was
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allocated, because now he says he is breaking the loyalty pledge. >> the pledge was mandated. doug, let me go to you, because it seems hillary clinton is now loving the idea of running against donald trump. a lot of other democrats are embracing this. there had been a fear factor. you had the david ploughs in the world. where are you? >> one thing that has happened in this race. republicans six months wanted to national lies at the senate and house levels. they thought hillary clinton would be deeply vulnerable, strong guy at the top of the ticket, that the president might not be that popular, national security would be an issue, now they've moved on. now you hear senate republicans localizing the election, because donald trump is to toxic. now democrats see trump as a guy that not only puts the senate in play, maybe puts states like arizona, you have states like arizona, potentially, there is
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one over i'm blanking on. >> georgia. >> georgia, and then in the house, it's potentially in play. >> you guys haven't recruited anybody. i mean, right? the deadline passed in the last state. >> that's not exactly true. we have candidates, and no, we do have candidates. >> it could have been better, had you known, right? >> well, look, i think they're okay with the recruits. what is trump going to say today. it takes them off message. this idea they're going to have a centralized unified message. >> okay, so i had a former senator say to me yesterday, a republican senator, so at these delegation meetings, in the week before, the delegates will get individual phone calls from senator toomey, congress womb comstock and say trump is going to kill me. remember how hard you worked for me door-to-door.
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>> and remember the checks that you've written. >> right. that will have an impact. >> i talked to the one rubio delegate from alabama yesterday. it's a dentist in huntsville. he's worried about how the process works out. is he still pledged to rubio if rubio drops out. >> he doesn't know. >> so the delegates don't know the rules. >> he already started getting phone calls from people, from other campaigns. >> so sarah, the thumbnail that they talk about look at the house, look at the senate, will it have an impact on, you know, the paul reinyans of the world,o has to stay neutral, maybe publicly they stay neutral, but you know what, you have to do what it takes. >> i think this last week has done more than anything they could have done. this was a disastrous week for donald trump.
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massive unpreki massive unprepredictable. >> it has been dissas strous, lowered the approval rating and the imagine of the republican party. >> except, if it leads to a contested convention, if we don't end up with donald trump, we will not, then the republican is in a strong place. >> weirdly enough. >> with ted cruz? >> i would love -- >> only because of the relief of no trump that some republican also have -- >> ted cruz isn't much better. >> thank you all. we'll maybe test that theory, right, in the fall. we'll be back tomorrow with more "mtp daily." "with all due respect" starts right now. i'm mark halperin. i'm john helemann. secrets, is secrets are no fun.


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