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good day, imer 'm erica hil coming to you live from brooklyn, new york. we're here at brooklyn roasting company. we're just over the bridge from manhattan. the rush is really on to win new york. all but one of the 16 candidates are in the state campaigning, looking to shore support ahead of the 18th primary. this hour hillary clinton, bernie sanders and john kasich all holding events with empire state voters. we're going to bring those to you live. ted cruz meantime rallying voters in california at this hour. his campaign taking time away from new york, shifting his focus ahead to the golden state where he stands a better chance
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against donald trump. all of this as the texas senator continues to seek delegates from the billionaire businessman, a move aloud by republican party rules, rules trump is now targeting head on. >> this is a crooked system, folks. i've won twice as much as cruz, i've won millions and millions of votes more. >> on the democratic side, another win for bernie sanders over the weekend in wyoming. one that comes with little overall gain against hillary clinton whose ability to lead continues to be questioned by the vermont senator. >> it determines if her judgment is clearly lacking. >> the current secretary of state pulling in the lead in her adopted home state of new york. according to the maris poll that is due out this afternoon could provide a critical view of where the votes could land next tuesday. our team of correspondents
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standing by across new york state and in california with the very latest. after losing the colorado convention, donald trump is lashing out at the republican nomination process, as you heard, calling it rigged. >> what kind of system is this? i'm an outsider and i came into the system and i'm winning the votes by millions of votes. but the system is rigged, it's crooked. when you look at bernie, every time i turn on the show, bernie wins, bernie wins, bernie wins and yet bernie is not winning. >> the american frontrunner, as you heard, drawing a parallel between himself and bernie sanders, a message that might ultimately work in his favor since many of the people that support his candidacy feel disen franchised by the political system. jacob is in albany. jacob, good afternoon to you. now i hear trump is speaking out about this on twitter. >> reporter: he is, he's taking to twitter to bash what he says
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is this corrupt process. it comes as no surprise that the hundreds of people already lined up five hours early for his rally agree with him. these are people largely who are able to be here because they have either taken a day off work or they may be out of work. a lot of them are responding, for example, to what donald trump is saying. it will come as no surprise as they agree. kevin, for example, what do you think? you've been following the news about the delegate process. where do you stand? >> i think personally it's a sham. i think we're getting the raw end of the deal. i think the committee already has it in for us, and the people need to speak and we need to win the race so we don't even have to worry about getting into a convention. >> but aren't these the rules that have been in place for a while now? >> they are the rules, but there's openly stop trump groups out there looking to stop us. the people were speaking. you know, we got thousands and thousands of people coming out here supporting the man. if the people want it, then let us speak. i mean, the rules can't change
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midway through the course. >> reporter: thank you so much, kevin. as we walk around here and show you the line, it is important to point out that the nbc news analysis that we did pointed out that even though trump has been complaining about the process, he actually has been helped more by the delegate system than the other candidates. he only has won 37% of the popular vote, but is ahead by delegates 45%. we'll have one more person here. this is peter. peter. >> hi. >> reporter: a lot of these here, they're loud, they're chanting "build the wall." what kind of trump voter are you? >> as far as building the wall goes, i'm in favor of it at certain times in certain spots. >> reporter: for you, what is the most important issue? >> the most important issue for me is jobs. economic. donald trump's economic policies about bringing the factory jobs back to america. most important. >> reporter: thanks so much, peter. a lot of people will tell you they're not happy with their
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governor, and a lot of them say, look, we never get to have political rallies. the republicans never get to come out. finally this is their chance. the trump team is saying they're expecting 17,000 people to show up. erica? >> i have to admit it's making it a little tough to hear you with all those folks in the background. give us a sense. as you pointed out, when you look at the numbers as they were coming in to the nbc news team here, donald trump is actually making out very well. how are they feeling about winning the numbers of delegates? >> reporter: you know what, erica, it's so loud, i apologize. i'm not able to hear all of your question. i think you mentioned the nbc analysis. the trump advisers are telling me behind the scenes that their biggest play, their number one priority is to win new york big and then to get to 1,237. they actually think they can do that. a trump adviser this morning told me their internal numbers tell them they'll make it to
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1300 delegates. erica? >> jacob, for a couple people who couldn't hear each other, incompetei think we worked it out. jacob, thanks. the cruz campaign has responded to the allegations saying they're not playing by the rules, saying, it's no surprise that trump's team will lash out with falsehoods when facing loss. we have worked hard to build a superior organization and are working within the process and rules that have been established. ted cruz, meantime, has taken his campaign to california, as we noted. its primary still two months aw away. and that state isn't typically thought of as a major factor in the primaries because of that timing. of course, nothing in this 2016 race is typical. so there is now increasing tension on the golden state's june 7 contest, which could decide whether the republican nomination will be decided by contested convention. nbc's guy schwartz is covering the campaign for us in irvine, california. ted cruz is going to be holding a rally there in about a half hour. looks like the room is already
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filling up pretty well there. >> reporter: you can see behind us, the room is filling up. they're expecting about a thousand people to show up. this is what it really looks like as ted cruz is starting to lay the groundwork here in california, a state that is going to be so critical. a little bit earlier we heard people talking about how california was going to be the king maker when it comes to this primary right before the convention. california has 172 delegates. that is more delegates than any other state in the country, and those delegates are going to be going to the convention, be very loyal to who is selected to go, because california has a little bit of a -- like so many states, a weird way of selecting their delegates. basically california is a winner take all by district state. what that means is each congressional district will award a candidate who wins that
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congressional district three delegates. let's say ted cruz wins in irvine, wins in southern california, he will get three delegates from this particular district and he will get to hand-pick them. they will go to the convention and they will obviously vote for ted cruz. but one of the interesting things about southern california is that southern california has a very long history with the republican party. in fact, the last time ted cruz was here, he talked about how the southern california area we're in right now, orange county, was the birthplace for the reagan revolution, something that he is trying to stress. and these are the types of voters constituency that he is desperately trying to court. erica? >> in terms of courting voters, there is a very large hispanic population in california, specifically orange county. that's a major focus for the campaign as well, correct? >> reporter: absolutely, right. orange county traditionally was very republican, and over the years the demographics have been
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changing. it's still a republican area, but we've seen a lot of hispanics that are now living in this area, and as that population grows, there has been a concerted effort by the republican party here in southern california to try to embrace a lot of hispanic voters and bring them into the party. in fact, just a little while ago, i was talking to some of the voters down here, and they were saying that interestingly enough, people have been trying to bring more republicans into the fold, but with your mom, you've got a 90-year-old mom, and you've been trying to convince her to vote republican. what's been the problem this cycle? >> the problem this cycle is she sees what trump is saying. and what -- of course, you see that in the media. they always try to make trump sound like he's the worst person in the world. but i try to explain to her what the meaning of what he is
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saying, and at that level, when you start talking about the details, she understands and she agrees -- >> she's agreeing with the platform. >> she agrees with the platform, and she understands what he's trying to say. >> reporter: do you see a big difference and does your mom -- well, do you see a big difference in the trump platform when it comes to illegal immigration and the cruz platform? >> i don't see that big of a difference. >> reporter: but your mom does? >> but my mom only sees what she hears on univision, which is trump hates mexicans, and actually trump doesn't hate mexicans, i feel. capitalism is good. that's where the money comes from, and that's where the mexicans or the hispanics are going to grow. >> reporter: perfect. thank you very much. maybe this interview will help convince your mom, we don't
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know. that's the late frst from irvin. back to you, erica. in just about 30 minutes we will see ohio governor john kasich at a rally. he weighed in on the delegate debacle a short time ago. kasich claimed not to know all the details of delegate rules but shared some harsh words for ted cruz. kelly o'donnell is traveling with the presidential candidate and she joins us on the phone from troy. kelly, good afternoon. not fully addressing some of the concerns there. >> reporter: well, erica, john kasich has been trying to not play statistician or operation in chief of his campaign. he honestly recognizes that in the season we're in how any campaign accumulates delegates, how working under state rules
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does matter. he defers to experts a lot, but remember john kasich has been in republican politics a long time, and has worked on the campaign long before he was a candidate himself. he understands what's at stake here. each day we talk to him, it's about a race for delegates. in the northeast, new york, pennsylvania, he is hoping that voters will see something that voters in some of the earlier states have not. that he is hanging in there, that he has a vision he would like to offer. and if people are burned out on trump or think cruz is too extreme that john kasich is an option. so we asked him about this yesterday at the media availability q and a at the state house, and he talked more about concern on the trump campaign tactics and what's happening behind the scenes. do you believe that ted cruz's tactics are appropriate when it
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comes to securing delegates? >> all i know is what they told me about michigan. there were tactics that -- you'll have to ask my people, but apparently they weren't appropriate. >> reporter: and part of what he also acknowledged is that in michigan, his voters were sort of aligned with trump to block out cruz. he said, don't read too much into it, it was a particular circumstance. but there is a lot of blocking attack that's going to go on in each of the states where delegates are being decided. erica? >> kelly o'donnell from troy, new york this afternoon. you see in that box in the corner of your screen. hillary clinton is speaking. that's an event that's happening here in new york as well, on long island. we'll get to that a little later in this hour. meanwhile, events in colorado proved just how the strategy is
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the hunt for delegates. we want to bring in msnbc's elise jordan and how this process works, and ultimately which candidate may benefit the most. we're hearing it's unfair, ted cruz says you should have better organization, a better ground game. break it down for us. how does this actually work? what are we missing? >> so the rnc, 56 states and territories, they assign a number of delegates to those 56 states and territories. however, each congressional district gets three delegates. otherwise, these states, the islands, the bbis, guam, samoa, they get to decide the rules about how the delegates are selected. ted cruz has been extremely operative and has been running an insurgent operation to get any delegates that aren't bound to candidates. he's running a far superior campaign to donald trump. he knows the rules and he's playing by them. that's what donald trump is now lashing out against when the irony is that donald trump has won about 37% of the votes, but
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now has 45% of the delegates. they're only separated by about 211 delegates right now, cruz and trump, and so that's why the competition is getting tougher. cruz was completely shut out in colorado this weekend because it wasn't a traditional primary vote and the delegates were decide bid td by the party. so he won 34 delegates there. the same thing happened in north dakota. trump wasn't prepared there and he's playing catch-up and it's not going well for him. >> even trying to play catch-up on april 11, this isn't new. this is something we were talking about in the last couple weeks where it was becoming apparent that the trump campaign was lacking in its organization. so even then they were behind, and yet now, a few weeks later, we're in the same spot. >> i think donald trump has had so much luck not playing by the traditional rules of politics at large that he thought that could translate into his campaign strategy. he was getting so much free
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media, he's become so effective at twitter, and he's run this on the cheap. you can't run this on the cheap, you have to do the work. ted cruz has shown he can run a competent campaign. donald trump hasn't proved that so far. >> is it too late for the trump campaign to try to make some inroads because cruz shored up all those delegates? >> i really do think that cruz's superior organization is going to pay dividends, and we're starting to see donald trump's slow meltdown. momentum is really important, as is this first vote. he knows if he doesn't win the first vote, trump has basically lost the nomination, and as that momentum shifts, cruz really stands to benefit. coming um, we'p, we're goin check in with the delegates. hillary clinton just inside long island. bernie sanders on the issue of guns. bernie sanders, meantime, is stump, in upstate new york this monday where he hopes to obtain some momentum following his
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because the time to think about tomorrow...is today. go long. hillary clinton and bernie sanders are in an all-out battle for new york. both candidates holding dual events this hour. clinton is holding a rally on gun violence. sanders, meanwhile, is holding a rally about three hours north in albany. moments ago hillary clinton used the opportunity to hit sanders in his stance on guns. take a listen. >> when challenged on his gun stances, he frequently says, you
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know, i represent vermont. it's a small rural state. we have no gun laws. here's what i want you to know. most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in new york come from out of state. and the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in new york come from vermont. >> this comes as a brand new poll just out of monmouth university shows clinton leading by 12 points in new york. earlier today sanders meantime hit clinton on her record on fracking. >> secretary clinton's role in fracking when she was secretary of state is not a good record. secretary clinton and her state department worked to export
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fracking throughout the world to reward companies like chevron, h haliburton, exxonmobil and conocophillips. in my view, that is unacceptable. >> as the race plays out now, the all-important superdelegates are back in the news as well. case in point, while sanders won wyoming over the weekend, he essentially split delegates with clinton, both getting seven apiece. that means clinton still has a massive lead in both pledge and superdelegates. let's bring in msnbc's kasie hunt who is at the bernie sanders rally in albany. also with me, alex seitz-wald covering the clinton campaign. is there some belief in the clinton campaign that some superdelegates could switch over to the sanders campaign at the
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convention? >> reporter: this is all predicated on the idea that sanders would get more pledged delegates. the spokesperson tweeted that there is a 0% chance that clinton doesn't clinch the nomination by june. even if that doesn't happen, there is not much precedent for movement for superdelegates. in 2008 as barack obama was gaining momentum, only about 30 superdelegates switched from hillary clinton to his side, and most were african-american, they wanted to support the first potential black president. when you think about who these superdelegates are, party leaders, elected officials, these are exactly the type of partisan democrat that the sanders campaign was fighting against. he openly talks about how he's taking on the establishment. these are people with long personal connections to both bill and hillary clinton. so clinton aides that i have
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spoken to thinks this is basically the sanders campaign trying to come up with some justification of staying in the race when they think even the sanders campaign doesn't believe it. >> obviously the sanders campaign would differ on that view. they have a strategy to win over sp the superdelegates, but is it one where they're making inroads at all? >> it's a conundrum, right, because they started out arguing that the superdelegates were undemocratic, not necessarily one they wanted to include. you heard them argue over the course of the last several weeks that the superdelegates are a way for them to win at the convention, and superdelegates represent states where bernie sanders has won should be obligated to support him. that, of course, isn't the case. lawmakers, for example, the senators, members of congress are superdelegates and they are not typically required to vote as their state goes. so it's a little bit difficult argument for the sanders
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campaign to make. that said, they do very much believe that they do have a path to the nomination, still, with the states that are left on the board. now, as that process moves forward, it's going to get tougher and tougher. you saw this in wyoming, for example. now, the clinton campaign in wyoming did what they said they were going to do with all these caucus states, right? they may have lost the state, but they didn't lose too many delegates to him. in fact, they split it evenly 7-7. that wasn't the case in some of the other western states where sanders had blowouts. utah, for example, idaho. so if they're able to keep doing that even in places where sanders is potentially strong, they're otherwise facing these large states like new york, and sanders has to not just win them but win them big, and i think a real test is going to be in new york in this closed primary system. sanders does so, so well with independent voters, but they're not allowed to vote here in new york. i was just walking through the crowd, people waiting for food, asking them, hey, are you reg
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skerd -- registered to vote in the democratic primary? many said yes, either i switched it or i've always been registered as a democrat. but there were several people who said, i went to try and change it and it turns out i blew the deadline. if you're a new voter, you can change it until the end of march, but if you were already registered, you had to do it all the way back in october. even the people we talked to who had remembered to do that typically hadn't found out because the campaign had reached out to them. it was because they had a friend or a sister. which is kind of the nature of the sanders campaign in general. it's pretty much word of mouth person to person, but it shows you the campaign itself was not out there with the kind of organizing power that a more developed or professionalized campaign might have been at that stage. and that could come back to hurt him not just here but in other states that also have closed primaries. there are more with closed primaries coming up than with open primaries, erica.
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>> you know, there's been a lot of focus on bill clinton and whether he's helping or hurting hillary clinton, especially in the wake of what happened, of course, in philadelphia last week when there were protests over the 1990 crime bill. he's talking about it. i want to take a quick look at what he had to say. >> i still think we saved a lot more lives by putting more police on the street, getting rid of the assault weapons for a while, and giving the young people something to say yes to. i still think what i said was right, and i wish i had first said it in the hopes of being heard, you're right about this prison thing. >> there's been so much focus at this point, alex, as everybody is trying to shore up support here in new york about whether or not bill clinton is, in fact, an effective surrogate. what is the thinking on this monday morning, especially given the events of the last few days. >> clinton campaign aides that i
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have spoken to insist he is very much a positive surrogate for them. you can look at the local news headlines generated wherever he goes. he gets tremendous coverage and a lot of diehard people come out. he kind of doubled the strength. not everyone has a former president on their side. if you look at his favorability rating of 45. hillary clinton has a negative 15% unfavorable rating. he has the ability to speak his mind even if it's a bit off message, and the party has really moved on from the bill clinton years when he was in the white house. people are opposing what he did in the white house, so he's kind of torn between defending his legacy and supporting his wife, erica. >> thank you both for joining us this afternoon. >> thanks. still to come on this hour of msnbc, live from brooklyn,
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after donald trump paid his first ever visit to new york's 9/11 memorial on saturday, the republican presidential candidate donated $100,000 to the foundation. they said trump and melania were incredibly impressed and that the memorial not only represents the strength of the country but also new york values, a not so subtle jab at his republican rival ted cruz. >> i just felt like doing it because i heard him disparaging new york, and i just thought it would be the thing to do. i had seen it earlier when it was under very early construction, and i wanted to see how it turned out. they did an amazing job. >> the very next day, however,
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an interesting piece in the "washington post" publishing this article, which is a close examination of trump's charitable donations over five years. according to that report, none of the 4800-plus non-cash contributions valuing at $102,000 were actually donations from trump's money saying they were in kind gifts given by the donald trump foundation. the parent company, universal, donated $500,000 to the donald j. trump foundation in 2012. universal had a relationship with trump during the production of "the apprentice." they said they had no comment on the report. the trump campaign has not responded to msnbc requests or comments. ari melbur has more on this report. is this essentially saying trump did not make charitable donat n
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donations? >> that's right, not in cash, anyway. this is in opposition to his claim of being so charitable. it's never really cash. all of these donations that the trump organization has put out are these sort of in-kind gifts, rounds of golf, things for silent auctions. according to the post investigation, they're often tied up with business and political goals, anyway. that is, they're not random donations to some far-flung country, they're someone he's already involved with an agenda. the recipient would have to be willing to go on television and be willing to take the check from donald trump. again, that puts a little cost in there and says there's motives behind what are not really personal contributions, anyway. i want to make one other point here. in the article they find that from 2008 to 2014, the trump charitable organization never
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got any money whatsoever from donald trump. it has other money from other donations, but you basically have a trump entity with the trump branding spending other people's money, and then sometimes leaving the misimpression that it's his money. then you turn to the veterans issue which he's also talked about on the campaign trail. take a listen to this. >> we set up the website, i called some friends, and we just cracked. the sign was just given. we just cracked $6 million, right? 6 million. >> reporter: supporting shows that he mentioned the 6 million. about 3 million of that has since been detailed and the trump foundation was essentially t the intermediary. that leaves half, the other half sort of up for grabs. they're not telling us in the trump organization where the rest of the money went. they didn't tell us or the associated press who made the initial request for these documents. so it's, again, one of these stories where the deeper you dig, and the "washington post"
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dug pretty deep, the more you find there is a lot less going on than the trump organization had initially suggested. >> that does raise some questions. i do want to go back for just a second because you were walking through some of the numbers there when it came to donations and moneys collected, which we talked about so much at the time. are any of those groups speaking out, because initially we weren't hearing much on either side. >> there is contact with some groups, and folks here at msnbc have attempted to make contact, some have and some have not. there are plenty of organizations that if they do take money, they defer to the giver, there are some people who want to be anonymous or want to leave aspects of it up in the air. the short answer is, no, we haven't been able to proof-point where the rest of the money would go from recipients. again, it's donald trump, candidate and business magnate, who sold this.
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he said he wanted to, quote, do something for the veterans. months later the burden is on him to show where the money went. some of it is, basically, bottom line, unaccounted for. >> we have questions and comments on that and a few other things. we'll share that as well. always appreciate it, ari melbur. ari, thank you. you may notice on the bottom of your screen, we have that live box up again. full screen on your television, bernie sanders just beginning his rally in albany talking about a campaign on the move. let's listen in. >> on april 19 we're going to win here in new york. [ cheers and applause ] >> this is a campaign when it began we were 65, 70 points behind secretary clinton in national polls. last week, two polls had us ahead of her.
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[ cheers and applause ] >> this is a campaign in national poll after national poll that is defeating donald trump by double digits. [ cheers and applause ] >> and the reason that this campaign is doing as well as it is is because we have the guts to be honest with the american people and tell the truth. [ cheers and applause ] >> all of you know that whether it is our personal lives or our political life, the truth is not
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always easy to take, but unless we deal with the reality of america today, we will not have the future we require. [ cheers and applause ] >> and here is the truth. the truth is that today we have a corrupt campaign finance system. [ cheers and applause ] >> which is undermining american democracy because billionaires and wall street and other powerful special interests are spending hundreds and hundreds of millions of dollars to support candidates who will represent the wealthy and the powerful. that is the truth. not going to be talked about too
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much on tv or in the newspapers, but the truth is that unless we turn this around, our country will be moving toward an alagarchic form of society, and together we are not going to allow that to happen. [ cheers and applause ] >> you've been listening to bernie sanders speaking there in albany, state capitol of new york. as we mentioned, a lot of focus and a lot of push is happening here in new york state as we make our way to this state's primary next tuesday on april 19. there is, of course, new york state, which is very large, and there's new york city which historically is a pretty true blue city when it comes to politics. one of the five burroughs, though, that make up new york state, staten island, refers to
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itself as the red burrough. republican frontrunner and native new yorker donald trump has reportedly accepted an invitation to attend a $150-a-plate brunch in staten island. the campaign has not confirmed that, however. joy is attending a gala in staten island. are there some that seem to be receiving an overwhelming amount of support heading into next week's primary? >> reporter: exactly, erica, and i think you might be able to guess which candidate that is. one of the best things about mike's is their fabulous staff. one of the wonderful friends we've made this morning is tina. tina, tell us a little bit about you as a voter. do you have a candidate that you like? >> i do.
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>> reporter: who is it? >> donald trump. >> tell me why. >> i think this company needs to be in a safe place. we need the respectability of the other countries again, and we have lost that. and we need him to be in there. he might not bring us to where we need to be, but it's a start in the right direction. that's what we need. >> reporter: donald trump has had a lot of issues he centered his campaign around, his famous build the wall idea. is there something specific donald trump wants to do that resonates with you? >> when my grandparents came here in the early 1900s, they wanted to make a culture. now they want to change the culture. it's about being a group of people. we've lost that. >> reporter: this is a very popular diner, lots of people come here. is there one candidate that resonates the most when you talk with your customers?
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>> i think most people i talk to are more donald trump. they want to see better change. >> does that include democrats and republicans? >> i think democrats think he's a good candidate, i just think we've lost respect from the people, from the country. >> i want to talk to you about ted cruz. there is a comment he made about new york values. that is an insult to everybody coming out of new york. . we want everybody to come to a vote. >> reporter: donald trump overwhelmingly popular here, including some democrats we've spoken to here at mike's. back to you. >> good stuff. joy, thank you. from the most republican new
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york city burrough to the most diverse, queensburrough. former president bill clinton made his way to a diner in new york. where does queens fit into the overall political landscape in 2016, cal? >> reporter: very, very liberal. you mentioned that diner. actually, an indian restaurant, a stop she's made before. if you take a look at the street we're on now, it's like a collection of people. a lot of people here worried about talk of deportation. it's something hillary clinton wanted to talk about today, it's something she's looked forward to talk about, especially when
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she comes to places like this, but she has to first deal with bernie sanders. i can't go on an election cam panl. this is an area that speaks to exactly that, an eclectic area of this city where we expect the voting to be very liberal, we expect a heated race on the democratic side, and whoever takes that position as the democratic nominee, they can capitalize on communities like this in a face-off against the republican party. erica? >> you mentioned off the top there that it's a very different feeling than what we see from joy. it is the fear. i imagine it's not just fear, but there are other things at the top of the list. >> reporter: absolutely, and one of them is what people call wage theft. so many people here are day laborers. they go out in the mornings,
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they stand here along these streets and they look for work. and they're promised a certain wage that then is oftentimes not followed through on. so one of the messages that people here have been passing along to us is that bernie sanders, his message about wage equality, his message about better wages, specially for the immigrant community, that's playing very, very large here. again, that's why i think hillary clinton, with two steps to the train here, it's starting to be rush hour. that's why i think hillary clinton spent two days in this neighborhood, to try to really hammer that home. >> cal perry, thanks. ted cruz and john kasich are both holding events with voters at this hour, one in new york, one in california. you're looking at live pictures. the texas senator expecting to rally voters in irvine, california. upstate new york holding a town hall in troy.
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that's happening any moment now. both candidates looking to gain. we expect to get a clearer picture in terms of where the new york. the maris poll is released later this afternoon. we'll bring it to you as soon as it happens. stay with us. we'll be right back. (splashing/destruction) (splashing/destruction) (burke) and we covered it, october twenty-seventh, 2014. talk to farmers. we know a thing or two because we've seen a thing or two. ♪ we are farmers. bum-pa-dum, bum-bum-bum-bum ♪ wyou could just forget frthe beach wedding... and the beach booty... you could just book a different resort.
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he is the author of "the wilderness." as we look at this, cade, we look at this closed primary. if you're not a registered democrat, not a registered republican, you can't vote. bernie sanders does great with independent independents who can't vote. >> he won many independents and he has lost to closed primaries on the democratic side. one thing to keep in mind that's kind of astounding, for you to be able to vote in the democratic primary here in new york, you would have had to change your party registration from independent to republican to democrat by october 9 of last year. that's six months ago. you think of everything that's changed between october 9 and now, bernie sanders has a lot of supporters who probably wish they could vote for him in the state but didn't change their party registration in time. >> it's fascinating to see how it really is different in each state, not just in terms of a close primary but in terms of
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when you need to make that decision. how is the campaign planning to reach out? we heard kasie hunt saying she's checking in with people at the rally to see if they had actually registered to vote. some had, but how are they handling that outreach with only a month to go? >> they have to concentrate on solid democratic primary voters, and that's what we saw in this recent debate about whether bernie sanders is a true democrat, hillary clinton bringing that question up, because he can't count on the kind of socialist minded, independent voters who have helped him in other states. on the republican side, this is also an issue except donald trump has such a huge lead here, it doesn't matter, but trump traditionally has also done better with independents and has counted on them to help him with other primaries. he'll probably do just fine with the republican registered set here. >> nice having you in brooklyn. thank you so much. once again, we are watching these live events. we're still waiting for live
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and as we round out this hour, you're looking at three live events. as we told you this 2:00 eastern hour was busy, hillary clinton just wrapping up her event in new york on gun violence. you see bernie sanders speaking there live in albany. we're also waiting on an event with john kasich in upstate new york, in troy, new york. and also ted cruz who is not in new york. the only candidate not in new york with just one week to go before the primary here, ted cruz focusing his attention on california. he'll be speaking in irvine, california today. of course, that state will weigh in with its primary in june.
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we've also been asking you today to weigh in on today's microsoft pulse question, whether you think the delegate rules for the gop and dems are rigged or fair game? here's a look at your latest responses. 20% of you say fair game, an overwhelming 80% say it is rigged. you can keep the conversation going at pulse.msnb clrks.com. imer cahill. that's going to do it for this hour. coming to you live in brooklyn. special thanks to our friends here at the brooklyn roasting company who has kept us well caffei caffeineated and is helping us out here. my colleague thomas roberts will be picking it up in the next hour. stay tuned to msnbc, the place for politics. until the day it became something much more.
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