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again, not my call. good morning, everyone. i'm tamron hall. we're back here live at the brooklyn roasting company in brooklyn, new york, where in exactly a week, both parties are holding their next presidential primary. right now, we're looking at a lot of action on the campaign trail. bernie sanders is holding a town hall in upstate new york. while in new york city, john kasich is delivering what his campaign is billing as a major speech on the two paths facing america. both bill and hillary clinton by the way, are also out this morning. she's taking part in a roundtable celebrating equal pay day. the former president is about to address supporters in queens.
take a look at this. our new nbc news/"wall street journal"/marist poll shows clinton now holds a sizable lead in new york ahead of bernie sanders. double digits now. 14 points. now, let's look at the republican side. donald trump now has 54 points, that's a 33-point lead over john kasich, who is in second with numbers like this, it's possible that trump could walk away next week with all of the state's 95 delegates. now, he's counting to -- continuing to ral against the delegate process after losing dozens of delegates to ted cruz in colorado this weekend. this is what trump told supporters at his rally last night. >> it's a very sick system. i'll tell you what. maybe in addition to winning, maybe we'll clean up the system so that in future years we can have an honest contest. we might be able to clean up this dirty, rotten, disgusting
system. >> now, factor this into the latest. rnc chairman reince priebus tweeted this out. quote, the rules were set last year. nothing mysterious, nothing new. the rules have not changed. the rules are the same. nothing different. that was tweeted out last night. ted cruz continues to laugh off trump's continuing complaints. >> donald has been yelling. and screaming. a lot of whining. i'm sure some cursing. and some late-night fevered tweeting. all the characteristics i would note we would want of a commander in chief. >> meanwhile, trump is also turning his attention to the democratic front-runner, hours after she campaigned, her campaign released an ad
targeting him. he launched this attack. >> everybody knows that she is guilty as hell, okay. everybody. her whole life has been a big, fat, beautiful lie. it's been a terrible, terrible lie. everything about her is a lie. >> from that attack from donald trump to this. clinton and sanders still sharpening their hits on each other. >> on this issue of fracking, secretary clinton and i have some very strong differences of opinion. secretary clinton and her state department worked to export fracking throughout the world to reward companies like chevron, halliburton, exxonmobil, and conocophillips. in my view, that's unacceptable. >> when challenged on his gun
stances, he frequently says, well you know, i represent vermont. it's a small, rural state. we have no gun laws. most of the guns that are used in crimes and violence and killings in new york come from out of state. and the state that has the highest per capita number of those guns that end up committing crimes in new york come from vermont. >> as always, we have all sides of this race covered with our correspondents, covering the campaigns, but first, developing now, i want to take you to bernie sanders, holding a rally in rochester, new york. it's going down at monroe community college. senator sanders talking about education, the cost of it in this country. let's listen in. >> when wall street's greed and illegal behavior destroy our economy, they went begging the
congress for a bailout. and against my vote, they got that bailout. i believe that it is totally appropriate today for us to impose a tax on wall street speculation. which will bring in more than enough money to make public colleges and universities tuition free and lower student debt. now, i understand that wall street and goldman sachs and these guys may not like it, tough luck. the middle class bailed out wall street, now it is wall street's time to help the middle class.
this campaign is listening to the african-american community. and as i have campaigned throughout this country, i have seen things that are literally unbelievable. and it's an eye-opener. i did not know these things. i was to flint, michigan, and i met with parents whose children have been poisoned by lead in the water. i was in detroit, michigan, where their public school system is on the verge of collapse. i have been in baltimore, maryland, in a community where freddie gray was killed, where there are no grocery stores. none. where there are no bank branches, where unemployment rate is somewhere around 50%. where the school system is
failing. and what the african-american community is asking, and justly so, how does it happen that we have trillions of dollars to spend on a war in iraq we never should have gotten into -- [ cheers and applause ] how can we give tax breaks to billionaires but supposedly we don't have the funds to rebuild our inner cities? >> bernie sanders giving his pretty much standard stump speech, as you heard him reference the war in iraq, wall street as well. this is all a part of the laundry list of reasons he said earlier this week that hillary clinton does not have the judgment to be president.
more now on the sanders campaign, as we pointed out, in new york, he is 14 points behind hillary clinton. i believe we have hallie jackson standing by. actually, we're going to go to kasie hunt. she's standing by with the latest on the sanders campaign. and kasie, you know, we make so much about whose turf it is in new york. hillary clinton obviously considering this her second home. and she was senator representing this, but this is also supposed to be bernie sanders' home turf as well. so when he is behind 14 points, what does the campaign say about it? >> the numbers are tough for bernie sanders right now, tamron. but we should expect over the course of the next couple of days a show of force from the sanders campaign in terms of what has been their ongoing advantage all the way along. that's the people who are willing to show up. i want to show you, this is the line to get into his event in syracuse. you guys have been standing here for how many hours?
five hours. four hours. she's a half hour. sorry. there were people here this morning at 7:00 in the morning. well before that 2:00 start time for this event. now we're also expecting several really large rallies in the city over the course of the next couple days. washington square park in manhattan, a big one in prospect park in brooklyn on sunday. then another one in queens on monday. but the reality here, tamron, is that this is really a crucible for bernie sanders right now. this race in new york is going to be critical for his campaign going forward, and it's also going to show how the candidate himself and his campaign react to being under this pressure. it's part of what you're hearing from the clinton campaign in the course of the last 24 hours, starting to focus this untested argument at bernie sanders, essentially saying he's not tested and wouldn't be the person to take on donald trump as a result of that. you're also seeing the campaign. it's still a relatively small inner circle around bernie sanders. that's a little bit unexpected,
if you will, or at least different from what we have seen in past years when you have a campaign that gets this far. of course, trying to run in this incredibly competitive state of new york with a media market of course in new york city that is really unlike any other in the country. so those are going to be the challenges for bernie sanders, and we'll see how this trip that he's taking at the end of the week ultimately impacts that. he's taking two days off the campaign trail in new york to go to vatican city to speak to a vatican conference, tamron. >> all right, thank you very much, kasie. >> let's knego to queens new york, where former president bill clinton is speaking. queens is home to the largest immigrant community in the city. >> without having to wait 10 or 15 years until they pay their college debt off. if you haven't paid it off in 20 years, the rest is forgiven. if you want to pay it off early, do two years in amar e acorps ad get more than $20,000 tax free.
this is a good plan. it would lift america. and we could do it together. there are a lot of economic barriers holding people back. what are they? well, first of all, one of the consequences of that financial crash is that the good news is because of the dodd/frank bill, wall street, and we have a person here who represents wall street in the assembly, there are 50,000 or 60,000 fewer people working in finance today on wall street than ever before, so new york city's economy is diversifying. not just in queens and brooklyn and the bronx. in staten island, but here in manhattan. but the reason the employment is down is because it's harder to speculate if you're in a big bank. you have to keep more capital, and the risk of failure is
smaller. that's the good news. the bad news for people who live here is that a lot of banks are also afraid to lend money to small businesses. and grace is on the committee on small business in the united states congress. and i think one of the reasons she's so enthusiastic about the campaign is hillary said, look, if we need to make the law clearer, we will. the law is clear. we're going to enforce the community reinvestment act. you have to loan money in every community in which you take deposits or have an atm machine. we have to get back to lending. there's a law on the books that says that. but it's often not enforced. more than 90% of all the lending that ever occurred under it when i was president -- >> bill clinton discussing the community reinvestment act. obviously, in a working-class community where a lot of people relocate and hope to perhaps start a small business. and that is the focus of his
speech right now in queens, new york. let me bring in msnbc's alex seitz-wald. he's been covering this side of the kamecampaign, the clinton s. before we get to what's happening on the trail, i want to play what bill clinton said yesterday in brooklyn in reference to donald trump. let's play that. >> presidential candidate trump, he's blamed as near as i can see, everything but dog owners for problems in this country. i put up a wall. make the mexicans pay for it. >> so alex, you had an ad yesterday playing in new york at least starting to play in new york, where for the first time, hillary clinton names donald trump in an ad, and now bill clinton naming him on the campaign trail. no longer avoiding with the generic gop candidates or some on the other side. they're naming him. >> right, tamron. i'm going to keep my voice down
because bill clinton is speaking just a few yards behind me, but clinton campaign fighting a two-front war. one with bernie sanders and one with donald trump. both feeding off each other. the argument she's making in new york, this is a rough and tumble media marked, a big state. she's arguing she's the only one who can stand up to those kinds of pressures, to go up against donald trump in the general election. that was the message of that ad we saw yesterday. even though she's hitting donald trump, she is making a primary campaign argument. another thing they get out by attacking donald trump, this district i'm in right now is the sixth congressional district of new york. congressman grace man mang introduced bill clinton. it has the largest percentage of foreign born residents, the largest asian american district, 40% asian american. a big play on immigration and donald trump basically saying he will be very bad for people of color, for immigrants, and that hillary clinton is the only one who is going to stand up for them and do what they need to have done, tamron.
>> all right, alex, i'll let you continue to watch the rally with bill clint in queens. we'll bring the audience any news that's made there. meanwhile, john kasich criticizes new laws in mississippi that supporters call religious liberty, and opponents call anti-gay. >> apparently, you can deny somebody service because they're gay? what the hell are we doing in this country? >> how that's playing with the gop base. and what is the kasich strategy behind taking on that highly controversial law? we'll have a live report from the campaign trail and developing now, president obama set to honor women's equality with a dedication of a new national monument in washington, d.c. when the president begins speaking, we'll bring you his comments. >> as we continue to come to you from brooklyn live, you're watching msnbc, the place for politics. we were born 100 years ago
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more now on the battle on the gop side of the election. despite donald trump's 33-point lead over his republican rivals in recent new polls out of new york and with his over 200-delegate lead ahead of gop rivals in the delegate count, he continues to call the system rigged. ted cruz, the gop front rner donald trump, have been railing over the possibility of a contested convention. >> next tuesday, next tuesday, you're going to go out and vote. and i'm not a politician. have you ever heard these guys where they say, it doesn't matter who you vote for, this is a great democracy. well, we found out in colorado
and in other places this is not a democracy like we're supposed to have. we're going to make it a better democracy. all right. a better and a fair democracy. and we're not going to have rigged elections in the republican party anymore. >> nbc's jacob rascon in utica, new york, near the trump rally that is going to happen later today. we're going to talk to katrina pierson, his national spokesperson later, but what are you hearing on the ground about this strategy, his delegate lead is there. his popular vote lead is there. we all know that donald trump infamously referred to potential riots in cleveland if he's not the nominee. some are saying he's stoking the fire when there's no proof he's not benefitting from the system that's been in place. >> yeah, and nbc analysis, as you know, shows that even though he is talking about how he has been slighted, he has 37% of the popular vote, and yet 45% of the
delegates. i think the bottom line here is that his argument resonates with the general trump voter who is not involved in the process, many of whom have even never voted. we're, for example, in albany new york, and talking about the process, calling it corrupt, the crowd is going wild. we're talking to a lot of people who have never been to a political rally. they never, they say, have this kind of experience with the presidential candidates making a big deal out of new york. some have never voted or they used to vote democrat. this argument resonates with them. he's got big momentum here moving on down the east coast. and all at the same time, it just fits into his argument of i'm the outsider. this is trump versus the gop round three. you might want to call it. we talked about the pledge, going independent, and he went after the establishment on debates, and now this. it's just been one after the other, and a lot of his voters who we talked to, this resonates
with them. they feel slighted by the process. they don't understand the process. they don't vote because they don't think their vote counts. so the bottom line is that even though behind the scenes you're going to have paul manafort, who is doing delegate wrangling, has a team, wants to make sure that something like colorado doesn't happen again, you have the candidate himself railing on this argument because it resonates with the voters. >> jacob, let's talk about something else donald trump has said. he floated out potential vp choices if he's the nominee. we know that for many weeks, he referred to, quote, little marco, and it now appears that the person that he mocked endlessly until marco rubio got out of the race is on his list. do we know if the campaign is trying to court marco rubio at this point? >> we're working on it. we do not that have confirmed. it's important to note that after florida, when marco rubio dropped out, he not only didn't
call him little marco anymore, he would actually correct the crowds at his rallies when they would call little marco, they would chant the nickname or boo him. trump more than a couple times i saw him correct the crowd and say, no, no, marco is a nice guy. so interesting, a different tune. he also mentioned kasich, of course, who has said he will never run as anybody's running mate. >> right. it's a different tune for donald trump at the end, but we certainly should -- and it bears to be played again. marco rubio at the end seemed completely exasperated, and he was one of the first candidates who said, you know, i have to talk to my children and look my kids in the face, if i decide to support the nominee, if he's donald trump. he was before ted cruz in giving the first pump the brakes moment on whether or not he was going to support donald trump if he got the nomination. so this would be a big turn to be his potential choice for vice president if trump gets the
nomination. >> definitely would. he also mentioned walker, in fact, in that list. and walker is the only one of the three people he mentioned e who has not said explicitly, i will not run as a vice president. i will not be anybody's running mate. but trump went hard after walker in wisconsin, at every rally, he would bring up how he didn't think walker was the economic savior many people talked about. so it would be interesting to see a change of tune so quickly like that. >> all right, thank you very much, jacob. >> now, during an interview on cbs this morning, john kasich addressed the possibility of whether he would consider being donald trump's running mate. here's what he said. >> donald trump says he would consider picking you as his vice presidential candidates. would you run with him? >> zero chance. >> zero chance? >> that's the best chance for the party. >> zero chance. look, i'm running for president of the united states. and that's it. if i don't -- if i'm not president, which i think i have an excellent shot to be, i will finish my term as governor.
and then maybe i'll be a co-host on your show. >> nbc's kelly o'donnell is covering john kasich's campaign. we know john kasich has had a tv show in the past. whether or not he's going to somehow secure the nomination in a contested convention, that is to be determined. what we do know is all of this will play out in the state where he is the governor, and will likely want a critical and important role in what plays out in cleveland this summer. cello, so what are we hearing? we keep asking what does bernie sanders want? what does john kasich want besides the chance to be the nominee? and apparently a morning show job. >> well, he often talks about having zero interest in being vice presidential nominee. that we hear on the trail often. he does it in a way that is more forceful than other candidates who don't want to show any leg on that and yet some day might
be willing to take the nod if given. he is pretty clear on that. in terms of the convention, he will be the host governor regardless of the fate of his campaign. but he argued today, and you know, political events, people wait for hours and then seconds after they're over, they split. this room was filled to capacity. there was warm applause for his remarks here. he is trying to put together delegates. doesn't talk about winning states. that's something that in any other year would be really a losing strategy, but he's talking about trying to be the alternative when those in the party tire of trump or if the numbers aren't there to put trump or cruz above the needed threshold of 1237. he is hoping to be that person that the party might turn to. he often talks about how in past contested conventions, the person with the most votes or most delegates going in was often not the ultimate choice. here today, he was really trying to lay out two competing visions. it was more cerebral than passionate in many ways as far as a political speech.
he talked about a lot of the differences between what he's trying to offer and what the other candidates are saying in terms of the tone of the rhetoric, the heat they're bringing on the campaign trail, in ways that might divide americans, according to john kasich's view of things. here's a part of what he said where he doesn't name them, but you'll know who he's talking about. >> some who feed off of the fears and anger that is felt by some of us and exploited, feed their own insatiable desires for fame or attention. that could drive america down into a ditch and not make us great again. >> so using the phrase great again, making america great again, a turn on trump's own language. that was woven through this. also, there were jabs at ted cruz with respect to some of the things he said about muslim neighborhoods in america and wanting to have sort of law enforcement keeping an eye on that. lots of differences on policy,
but big differences on tone. so being in new york with a lot of new york media here as well as national media, he's trying to get that message to one big speech. >> just quickly here, we have to bring up the comments that governor kasich made on cnn when he was discussing the lgbt laws in mississippi and north carolina. he said i read about this thing in mississippi where aparbltly you can deny someone sufrx because they're gay. quote, what the hell are we doing in this country? and he went on to rail against these laws. obviously, these are laws that are popular with his base. some of the people that would support ted cruz, maybe even donald trump here. so it is interesting at this time where he's clawing from the bottom, hoping to get to the top, that he would take this stand, not popular with the base in his party. >> perhaps more popular in a general election. he often talks about being the best positioned candidate tago against a presumed nominee, hillary clinton. and so that would certainly be a
popular position. not just in that interview quoted, but we have seen him do it on the campaign trail. i was at a town hall here in troy, new york, where a tranls ge transgender woman stood up, asked a question, raised thesish aaus. he said it's not that he agreed with gay marriage himself. hao said i'm a traditional marriage guy. but now that that's been decided by the court. leave it alone. when it comes to providing services for a gay wedding or transgender equality, things like the laws about bathroom access, he says why are we putting more laws on the books? people should live and let live. a bit of a libertarian streak, while at the same time, he retains his deep religious views and his own opinions, but trying to say let's not make this a part of this campaign season. >> kelly, thank you so much. senator ted cruz is off the campaign trail as he spends the day fund-raising in texas. certainly hoping to continue his winning streak against donald trump, although he's in third
place in new york. >> the last three weeks, there have been 11 elections all over the country. and in the last three weeks, we have beaten donald trump in all 11 elections. if we continue to unite, we're going to earn a majority of delegates, earn the republican nomination. and if we continue to unite, we will win the general election, beat hillary clinton, and turn this country around. >> nbc's hallie jackson is here to tell us what cruz has planned. when you look at the polls, obviously, you have seen them, hallie, a huge lead for donald trump. now a possibility he could sweep the delegates, run the table in new york. what is the cruz campaign doing to slow him down in new york, and also other hot spots in the northeast? pennsylvania, the list goes on and on. let's focus on new york where he
needs to put some kind of dent there. he's at 18%. >> yeah, so let's start with new york. and then we can move on from there. the campaign in new york is hoping to really prevent a shutout. they want to be able to peel off enough delegates in places like western new york, to stop trump from getting above that 50% threshold everywhere, and sweeping all 95 delegates. why? well, because if trump sweeps all the delegates, his path to the nomination gets easier, particularly if he carries that momentum and wins in the places like maryland, delaware, connecticut, places that vote in the couple weeks after new york. so cruz is coming back to the city, coming back to the empire state. he will be here later in the week on thursday. tomorrow is interesting, though. you talk about his strategy in new york, but you mentioned other states to come. cruz will be in erie, pennsylvania, tomorrow, for a rally. pennsylvania is very interesting because it's got the 17 delegates but then a number of unbound delegates as well. you will see, it was described to me by a republican operative, kind of its own little animal, pennsylvania is. you're seeing cruz play there this week and will continue to do so. that would be my guess.
the other part of all this, of course, how do you slow down trump? you turn to those stop trump forces that are tryish to do the same. i'll tell you this, our analysis shows that the stop trump movement has not spent any money in new york trying to slow down the front-runner in his home state. that's likely because polls show he has such a high lead. i spoke with one strategist for one of these groups who said we are focused instead of places w where we can get more bang for our buck. look for california, nebraska, maryland, indiana. those are the places where you will see these groups spending some money. you'll also see them drill down in delegate strategy when it comes to wyoming, for example. in colorado, you had some of these super pacs, outside groups calling individual delegates, people they believe were on the never trump ticket, in order to make sure they knew which delegates to vote for to slow down donald trump. it's likely we'll see the strategy play out again in the other states with unbound delegates like wyoming. >> hallie jackson live for us. thank you very much, hallie.
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and has been the longest serving woman in the united states senate. we're so proud of her. our secretary of the interior, sally jewel, and her team, as we celebrate the 100th birthday of the national parks service this year. one of our greatest athletes of all time, one of the earliest advocates for equal pay for professional female athletes, and a heroine of mine when i was still young and fancied myself a tennis player. billie jean king is in the house. and the national women's party board of directors, paige harrington, the executive director of the house and the museum.
over the years, paige and her staff have built a community and cared for this house, repairing every cracked pipe and patching every leaked roof. we are grateful for their stewardship. i know it was not easy. equal pay for equal work should be a fundamental principle of our economy. it's the idea that whether you're a high school teacher, a business executive, or a professional soccer player or tennis player, your work should be equally valued and rewarded. whether you're a man or a woman. it's a simple idea. it's a simple principle. it's one that our leader of the democratic caucus in the house, nancy pelosi, has been fighting for for years. but it's one where we still fall short. today, the typical woman who
works full time earns 79 cents for every dollar that a typical man makes. and the gap is even wider for women of color. the typical black woman makes only 60 cents. a latino woman, 55 cents. for every dollar that a white man earns. now, if we truly value fairness, then america should be a level playing field where everyone who works hard gets a chance to succeed. and that's good for america. because we don't want some of our best players on the sidelines. that's why the first bill that i signed as president was the lilly ledbetter fair pay act. earlier this year, on the anniversary of that day, the equal employment opportunity commission and the department of labor acted to begin collecting annual data on pay by gender, race, and ethnicity, and this action will strengthen the enforcement of equal pay laws that are already on the books and help employers address pay gaps on their own. and to build on these efforts,
congress needs to pass the paycheck fairness act, to put sensible rules in place and make sure -- [ applause ] and make sure that employees who discuss their salaries don't face retaliation by their employers. but i'm not here just to say we should close the wage gap. i'm here to say we will close the wage gap. and if you don't believe me, then -- if you don't believe we're going to close that wage gap, you need to come visit this house. because this house has a story to tell. this is the story of the national women's party, whose members fought to have their voices heard. these women first organized in 1912, with little money, but big hopes for equality for women all around the world. and they wanted an equal say over their children, over their
property, their earnings, inheritance. equal rights to their citizenship, and a say in their government. equal opportunities in schools and universities, workplaces, public service, and yes, equal pay for equal work. and they understood that the power of their voice in our democracy was the first step in achieving these broader goals. their leader, alice paul, was a brilliant community organizer and political strategist. she recruited women and men from across the country to join their cause. and they began picketing, seven days a week, in front of the white house to demand their right to vote. they were mocked, they were derided, they were arrested, they were beaten, there were force feedings during hunger strikes, and through all this, women young and old kept marching for suffrage. kept protesting for suffrage. and in 1920, they won that
right. we ratified the 19th amendment, but the suffragists didn't stop there. they moved into this historic house and continued their work. from these rooms, steps away from the capitol, they drafted speeches and letters and legislation. they pushed congress and fought for the passage of the equal rights amendment. they advocated for the inclusion of women in the u.n. charter in the 1964 civil rights act. they campaigned for women who were running for congress. this house became a hotbed of activism, a centerpiece for the struggle for equality. a monument to a fight not just for women's equality, but ultimately for equality for everybody. one of the things we have learned is that the effort to make sure that everybody is treated fairly is connected. and so today, i'm very proud to designate it as america's newest
national monument. the bellmont paul women's equality monument right here in washington, d.c. we do this, we do this to help tell the story of the suffragists in the rooms that pursued ideals which shouldn't be relegated to the archives of history. it shouldn't be behind glass cases, because the story they're fighting is our story. i want young germ girls and bo come here, 10, 20, 100 years from now, to know that women fought for equality. it was not just given to them. i want them to come here and be astonished there was ever a time when women would not vote. i want them to be astonished there was ever a time when women earned less than men for doing the same work. i want them to be astonished
there was ever a time when women were vastly outnumbered in the board room or in congress. that there was ever a time when a woman had never sat in the oval office. i don't know -- [ applause ] i don't know how long it will take to get there. but i know we're getting closer to that day. because of the work of generations of active, committed citizens. one of the interesting things as i was just looking through some of the rooms, there was susan b. anthony's desk. you had elizabeth katie stanton's chair. and you realized that those early suffereraragists had prec alice paul by a generation.
they had passed away by the time th that, you know, the vote was finally granted to women. and it makes you realize, and i say this to young people all the time, that this is not a sprint. this is a marathon. it's not the actions of one person, one individual, but it's a collective effort, where each generation has its own duty. its own responsibility, its own role to fulfill in advancing the cause of our democracy. that's why we're getting closer, because i know there's a whole new generation of women and men who believe so deeply that we've got to close these gaps. i have faith because what this house shows us is that the story of america is a story of progress. and it will continue to be a story of progress as long as people are willing to keep
pushing and keep organizing. and yes, keep voting for people committed to this cause. and to full equality for every american. so i'm hoping that a young generation will come here and draw inspiration from the efforts of people who came before them. after women won the right to vote, alice paul, who lives most of her life in this very house, said it is incredible to me that any woman should consider the right for full equality won. it has just begun. and that's the thing about america. we are never finished. we are a constant work in progress. and our future belongs to every free woman and man who takes up the hard work of citizenship to win full equality and shape our own destiny. that's the story that this house tells. it's now a national monument that young people will be inspired by for years to come. it would not have happened without the extraordinary efforts of many of the people in this room, not only their active
support of this house and preserving it, but also the outstanding example that they are setting. that you are setting. i'm very proud of you. congratulations. thank you very much, everybody. >> president obama designating a new national monument at the historic central d.c. home to the women's rights movement. you see many women in the crowd there. applauding this new monument, the belmont paul women's equality national monument, mark it down on your calendar when you visit the area. and we'll continue to follow president obama's remarks there. but this does tie in, interestingly enough, to what's happening with hillary clinton. she's in new york at a roundtable discussion on pay equality for women. she's actually joined by a member of the women's soccer team, which you may recall just a few weeks ago, made headlines after pointing out that they
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i end up winning louisiana. and then when everything is done, i find out i get less delegates than this guy that got his [ bleep ] kicked. okay, give me a break. really disgusting. >> that was donald trump last night in albany railing against his party's primary process in the latest round of trump versus
the republican establishment. joining me now is trump campaign's national spokesperson, katrina pierson. thank you so much for joining us. >> hi, tamron. >> let's look at the numbers. so far, donald trump has won 30% of the popular vote. he's won 45% of the delegate right now. when he says that he's being robbed, that the system is rigged, is he just playing to people in the audience trying to ramp up their potential anger? because the numbers right now, and i know you've seen them show that he's in the lead in both categories. what is he talking about? >> well, he's talking about, actually, he's just stating the obvious. we do see what's happening at the caucus level in these states and yes, mr. trump has won millions more votes than everyone else. mr. trump does have the most delegates. but what we're seeing now is the party apparatus, the people who make the rules, also change the rules to stop mr. trump from
achieving the nomination. that's what they're trying to do and mr. trump is just showing everyone who didn't know the rules how this is working and what they're doing to stop mr. trump from achieving the nomination. >> the rules were set last year. nothing mysterious, nothing new. the rules have not changed. the rules are the same. nothing different. can you tell me one rule that has changed and is he being dishonest? >> he's right. right now, the rules have not changed. but we're talking about the states. that's what mr. trump is specifically talking about. like colorado, for example, mr. trump entered this race in june. the rules were set. however, with colorado, they changed their rules in august to forego the entire election process. the people of colorado did not vote. they put in a delegate system. it's a pyramid scheme to get their own people elected to these seats to represent other candidates without an election process and yes, the rules for the national convention can also
change a week out before the convention. so these things are a moving part of the process that mr. trump is bringing awareness to that. >> but while you said it's a moving part, that does not indicate that somehow the system is rigged. it's working as it was designed. you bring up colorado, u.s. senator cory gardner, a republican, weighed in on this notion that colorado was somehow changed or rigged. he said ted cruz showed up to the colorado gop convention. donald trump only sent a surrogate. cruz swept. elections are won by those who show up and he goes on to say, and i've attended state conventions for years. it requires organizations and attention to grassroots to win. cruz had it. donald trump didn't. end of story. >> you'll notice -- >> let me finish, cruz's team has outhustled trump in delegate. has he been outhustled and is that why this rally cry of what ted cruz says is a whine strategy? >> no, not at all.
it's not outhustling. if you're an outside using insider rules to these posts, then no. that's not hustling. it's just playing the insider game. gardner's statement did not mention the actual rules that changed. this is supposed to be a democratically elected republic and the people of colorado didn't even vote. when you have 3,000 people show up to be a delegate, of course you're going to get some trump supporters elected at the local level outside of the precinct. but there's a pyramid that pushes these people through a process whereby the party activists are voting on their friends and you also have people left off the ballots, credentiallcredentiakre decred l credentials suddenly lost and the delegate system ends up being the party activist, not the people voting for mr. trump. >> donald trump is consistently saying he would bring in the best people whether it's foreign policy, whether it's looking at our economy, even immigration that he would bring in the best
people including on his campaign, as you note, he's revealed yesterday that two of his kids, eric and ivanka missed the deadline to register to vote. the new york magazine said donald trump's get out to vote failed to register his children and his ground game isn't just inept at securing support but can't secure the support of his own kids. if he's hiring the best team, why didn't his excellent team make sure that his own two children would be able to vote for him? >> well, like ivanka and eric have said, usually, you can register 30 to 90 days out. unfortunately with new york, it was six months. so they did miss the deadline, which why they committed to helping run in other states. yes, but -- [ talking over each other ] this kind of thing happens. >> the national security team. he's from new york. this is his home state. he has two adult children who campaigned with him. you know the saying, katrina.
if you can't get the small things right, how can we trust you to get the big things right? he said he hired the best team. why didn't the team make sure that two of his adult children could vote for their father running for president? i'm just asking why. >> well, i mean, that's what i'm trying to tell you. it was six months out and they missed the deadline. they are both running a multi-billion dollar company and raising a family. these little things do happen. i did it myself when i ran and i actually carried voter registration cards with me. these things do happen. >> they do happen. i don't think they often happen when your father is running for president and he's got a big primary in his home state and he says that he could assemble the best team, but to your point, we all live busy lives and not all of us run a multi-billion dollar business but he has the folks in place and that's the headline. katrina, thank you, always, for being so gracious. that's it for this hour. we're in brooklyn.
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