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good morning to you, everyone. i'm tamron hall coming to you from -- as you see the brooklyn bridge. we're in brooklyn bridge park. right now we're following a lot of developments this early in the morning. happening on the campaign trail including a closed door meeting in the last hour on capitol hill between members of donald trump's team and members of congress. we'll have much more on that coming up. but first bernie sanders' massive record-breaking rally in washington's square park. the sanders campaign says 70,000 people were there but it was one comment of someone who spoke before him that's causing a lot of controversy this morning. >> well, i agree with secretary clinton that medicare for all will never happen if we have a
president who never aspies for something greater than a status quo. medicare for all will never happen if we continue to elect democratic whores who are beholden to the private insurance industry instead of us. >> clintnton communications director jen palmieri tweeted in response, quote, very distressing. sanders distanced himself from the comment and tweeted dr. song's comment was inappropriate. last night dr. paul song denied he meant clinton saying, quote, i'm very sorry for using the term "whore" to refer to some in
congress who are beholden to some in congress and not us. it was insensitive. all of it could make for interesting exchange when sanders and clinton face off tonight in their next debate. we have all of this covered for you in every angle across the state of new york. we start with the danny. he's captured some of the great images from last night's rally. he was there when senator sanders joined picketers from verizon not very far from there. so you have this massive crowd at washington square park in new york near the nyu campus and the big headline this morning, though, is a surrogate, and we receive this in the past where someone makes a remark and it forces the candidate to have to disavow and that becomes part of the story. what's the sanders' campaign reaction? are they trying to clean this up nice and tidy and move on? >> good morning, tamron. you know what's interesting?
we receive a number of instances where sanders' message has gone off path or sticking to equality or things near and dear to bernie sanders' haeart. for the most part they've stood by their surrogates without question. you look at killer mike or susan sarandon. it was interesting this time that senator sanders said, no, i'm going to disavow these comments. this is not language we want to hear at our campaign events. i want to go just to the size and impact of this crowd then. that was at the very beginning. senator sanders wasn't at the event by the time that incident hat happened. it was interesting to see the result of the event right there after. 27,000 people came out to this particular rally according to the campaign and the energy was incredible. there were a ton of people
there, young people. it was in the heart of the village, the heart of nyu. as it was put, peak sanders. it's going to be a bit of an example of what we can see to come or expect to see to come when senator sanders is expected to hold similar mega rallies at prospect park and in addition. now, i just want to say let's go to peter alexander from washington on the trump campaign to hear what he has to say. >> danny, i thank you very much. we've been following that campaign. also in new york city donald trump making headlines for that sort of meeting of the minds, trying to put their differences to rest between himself and megyn kelly, the popular fox news anchor. that meeting at kelly's request taking place behind closed doors at trump towers yesterday. this feud dates back months over the course of the time donald trump has referred to megyn
kelly as crazy and overrated. it really has been a strange stand adjuster but there are potential benefits for both sides if they can come to beater agreement in terms of this relationship as it were. for one, donald trump is trying to improve his relationship with female voters in america and obviously megyn kelly is in a compelling position to be an advocate of sorts in that sense. and separately for kelly, herself, she's looking for a prime time booking trying to get donald trump on the air as well. also we're trying to keep him within some of the behind-the-scenes campaign, most notably what's been taking place, noting that the campaign manager corey lewandowski not going to be prosecuted for the incident with that breitbart reporter last month. he was charged with simple
battery. an announcement is expected to take place. we'll pull those up on the screen for you. fields tweeting, quote, the prosecutor's office told me they would inform me of the decision tomorrow. if the reports are true, i guess they decided to leak to reporters first ugly and for those asking office of prosecute iras of two weeks ago if i'd be okay with an apology from cory, i said, yeah, but haven't heard back about it. again, for that. so a pair of feuds, one with the rnc we've been talking about, another one with megyn kelly. here's some of what donald trump had to say about the state of his relationship as it were with fox news. >> i'm not at war but i want to make it really a process where votes count. right now in colorado they took the voters away.
you know, there are riots going on out there, and you look at what's happening in pennsylvania where they're taking the voters out of it and it's very unfair and i rely on the voters. i don't rely on politicians. >> right now we're going to be joined by our friend at the "washington post" robert costa who's been keeping an eye on all of the campaigns, particularly donald trump eerks meeting today for what they say will be in effect weekly meetings in an effort to get donald trump to be a party of the nominee. what are you hearing thb nomination, what they hope to accomplish and really about the frustrations that exist within some members of the group about their ability to be treated fair within the rnc, the republican system? >> the meeting today with trump's campaign was really focused on the house of representatives and it was hosted by ed brookeover. a veteran consultant. he's trying to get people energized in the house around the campaign. you have chris collins and
others who are there trying to get some of the conservative back benchers away from it and toward trump. you have others working. this was about coordinating trump's campaign with capitol hill hill to try to get some better relationship within the parties. >> robert, i want to get a sense if we can. we know what's been taking place and there have been high-profile hirings over the course of the last 24 hours, most notably, rick wiley. he was scott walker's campaign manager. he was highly criticized for a pour use of money. they put a lot of resources in to quickly spread themselves too thin and quickly that campaign dissolved but it was a significant hire because he was the rnc's national political director just four years ago. give us a take of what we're witnessing right now by donald trump's campaign as he tries to sort of better coalesce some of the voices and the minds that he
needs to, in effect, push back ted cruz who ee been outorganizing him in parts of the country? >> it's important to pay attention not only to the hires comes behind donald trump but what the hires are actually doing. trump for many months had a close close-knit inner circle. rick wiley is going to be focused on national operation, field nom united nations. hae dins this for the national committee. that's a place where trump has been week across the country, trying to get organizations at conventions where they pick delegations. guys like him and paul manafort, he's working on delegates. >> obviously donald trump, you know, he runs this thing. this is him and everybody else
in the inner circle kl or wider circle are ultimately deferring to his judgment on the stage and interviews. it comes from his lips, not theirs right now. i'm curious in terms of the back-and-forth with the rnc. reince priebus saying he had to speak out when the facts were being misrepresented. donald trump pushing back saying the rules are being changed, in effect saying that the rnc is trying to steal the nomination for him. so what is the strategy for donald trump? obviously it's a campaign that has been heavily fueled by grievances and some of the other people he's been speaking for? what is the strategy as they continue to trump up their language toward the rnc. >> those are great points, peter. what we're look for is a two-front complication, it's trump versus the rnc because broadly speaking trump is using the rnc as a foil. he thinks membership of the
committee are aligned against him and he's unhappy with how reince priebus has managed the problem. at the same time with bringing on rick wiley and others who are close to the national party and longtime relationships, you see the trump campaign getting ready to work with the rnc should he be the nominee. so in the big picture he still wanted to be outsider who's fighting the system. but internally and inside the campaign, there ooh's a foundation of relationships between the two camps. >> robert costa, always nice to speak with you. better in person but nice over the airwaves as well. >> thanks, peter. >> as for donald trump's campaign, they're continuing to blast the rnc for its delegate process. take a listen to some of that. >> they changed the rules. after i got in, they changed the rules. i joined. they changed the rules and they took it away from voigters, they
saw i did well. look, it's a crooked system. what are you going to do? in the meantime, i'm winning. >> trump has taken the social media gathering to protest that state's caucus system. of course, this comes after ted cruz likely witnessed it. all 34 of colorado's delegates. if trump is claiming he has the popular vote and would have run away with it. i want to get to john frank. he's been covering it for the "denver post." john, thanks for joining us. talk about us what's been the rhetoric, turmoil throughout the course of the campaign, the death threats that have been received by the head of the colorado republican party. >> yes. colorado republican chairman has taken hits. they've posted his home address and cell phone online and
facebook. he's received calls, some threatening glaj aimed at him and the party system that he oversaw this last weekend. >> the trump campaign claims there's been changes to the delegate process. this is where the frustration comes from and ultimately those debt threats were coming from those people what does the party say about that? >> it's the same system we've used. they broke it back in august, about eight months ago now, that we would not have a straw poll at our caucus. that is the one change this time. but it's important to keep in mind straw polls in prior years essentially meant nothing except a shot of adrenaline for the candidate who won. colorado awards its delegates to
caucus meetings and moves to state and congressional levels. that's where he was able to capitalize in colorado because he had such a deep organization of volunteers helped along. >> reading along for our viewers, donald trump says it's been a crooked system. he's trying to direct them in his rally that's supposed to take place in your home state, in colorado. what are you anticipated? what are you hearing about. what are you expected to hear? >> it's still unclear how many trump supporters will show up. party supporters will organize. you'll see them counter-protesting. they're actually protesting for trump. they weren't out at the caucus meeting, and if they had, they
probably would have done better at the state convention this past weekend. john frank from the "denver post," thanks for joining us. >> you're welcome. >> don't forget, chris matthews will host a town hall with john kasich and at 8:00, ted cruz hosted by chuck todd. we've been having technical issues. once we resume we'll go back to tamron hall wo w.h.o. will rejoin us. first of all, the battle in brooklyn. as we speak the campaigns are gearing up for their ninth face-off. it will happen later tonight.
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back live now. you're watching the place for politics. later tonight hillary clinton and bernie sanders will face off in the last democratic debate before the crucial new york primary. clinton with no public events today as she prepares for that. yesterday the former secretary of state mate her case to new york's african-american voters at the national
african-americans convention. >> if we're going to ask the african-americans to vote for us, we cannot take you or your vote for granted. we can't just show up at election time and say the right things and they that's enough. we can't start building relationships a few weeks before a vote. >> nbc's kristen welker is at the sight of tonight's debate in brooklyn. kristen there's been heated back-and-forth by a surrogate of bernie sanders and obviously the sanders team telegraphing its desire to hit clinton over money she's received from verizon for speeches in the past. what strategy are you hearing in terms of what clinton hopes to accomplish tonight? >> look. i think we're going to see fireworks on both sides, peter, just to set the stake. as you point out, this debate becoming before the critical
play. you heard that sound bite. it was a subtle dig or not so subtle dig at senator sanders saying he's come late to the table when it comes to reaching out to the african-american community. i think you'll see her hit him for those remarks made by one of the surrogates last night. drk who called for them. the clinton campaign calling on senator sanders to disavow it. i think that's going to be a big issue am it's significant because it's one of those issues that could rally secretary's base, of course, women voters. on the other side he ee going go on offense as well. he's expected to hit her for taking money from verizon, $225,000 for a speech there. and, osk, this is the same company where she went to the picket line to march with some
of the workers striking against very on n'zonzi. we receive the rhetoric heat up as this race becomes increasingly contentious. secretary stan ders accusing clinton of not being prepared. a lot of people thought he went too far in his remarks. senator clinton hitting him back and i am told she's going to essentially try to paint him as untested an not strong enough to take on trump. the new york primary so critical because senator sanders needs to win here and win by a large margin if he really wants to try to dig in to secretary clinton's substantial delegate lead. on the other hand if she wins by a large margin, she could all but put this race away. right now showing a very comfortable lead. kristen, always going to be with
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and its implementation is that there was too much of my focus, too many resources on locking them up but no resources on love and compassion. as a result we have devastated our futures, our families and our futures. >> that was democratic bobby rush discussing his vote for the 1994 crime bill and why he now regrets it. his comments came as a debate over the legacy and impact of the measure signed by president clinton plays out on the campaign trachl rush has endorsed hillary clinton who faces tough support when she was first lady. in all the law was passed with the support of 184 democrats,
including bernie sanders. he was there as well and included dozens of members of the black caucus, many of whom who have endorsed clinton. i'm joined by jim clyburn of south carolina. congressman clyburn, thank you foreing with us. i want to get your take. you heard the comments that rush said about the crime bill back then. do you share that sentiment? are you ashaming of your vote back then? is it something for which you should apologize? >> first of all, thank you for having me. first of all bobby and i are friends, we were classmates, we came together in 1992. we works closely together on the 1994 crime bill. no, i'm not ashaned of it. what i'm embarrassed buy is a piece of legislation, a piece of compromised legislation where we got a lot of it and a lot of them the mandatory min mutts and
that sort of thing, we wanted a ban on the assault weapons and we got it. we wanted policing and we got it. there are so many things that we wanted in this bill and we had mayors from the big cities coming to washington. >> sure. >> the mayor of detroit, the mayor of atlanta, the mayor of cleveland all african-americans so we were very supportive. now what happened in 1994 later that year, we lost to congress and when we lost to congress, the funding for this program started to emphasize punishment rather than emphasize what we were trying to do and that is trying to have prevention programs. >> so, congressman, let me -- >> yes? >> let me ask you about the unintended consequences. we have this. i'll put it up on the screen.
it's from three prominent professors on the effects of the crime bill, specifically on african-american communities. it writes over two decades later this legislate continues to shape the lives of african-americans overwell mi mingly for the worse. this ledge legislation further entrenched the idea that vulnerable ur want communities are bess manage e ed through ha surveillance and heightened. >> if you underfund the prevention and beef up funding on punishment which is what happen after the 1994 eels. what we learned from this is there are always consequences in elections. and so i would say to those same
people who have problems with the implementation of the crime bill but are now calling for a boycott of the elections because we don't like the fact that bernie sanders supported it and hillary clinton voted for it. we're going to get it p if you broadcast it you are in fact casting a vote for the same people who would add more punishment and even less prevention going forward. so let's accept the fact that we have unintended consequences here and all of us need to work together to get rid of these mandatory minimums, to bring back the assault weapons ban and to do what we try to do on background checks. i referenced all those people who lost their lives because of an inadequacy in background checks. that's what we need to be
working on it because we don't like what happened. get engaged. make sure they will address the issues you would like to see addressed and let's go forward together. >> congressman, thank you so much. it's one we'll hear more about. we very much appreciate your time. thank you. >> thanks for having me. developing right now at the white house, news we want to share with you. president obama and vice president biden welcoming the wounded warriors who suffered psychological damage as well. take a listen. >> marines. coast guard. all right, coast guard. we've got some of your biggest fans which are your extraordinary military families.
we hold a lot of events at the white house but few are as inspiring as this one. over the past seven years, this has become one of our faivt traditions. thissi ieyear we've got 40 acti duty and some veterans. many are recovering from major injuries. some have adapted through. some are workling through new wounds that are harder to see like post-traumatic distress and riders across this country, it's a movement to help each other, see each other get across that finish line. and that's how american is supposed to work. it doesn't stop when you take off the uniform. we're joined by marine captain jessica bilkovich. where's jessica? there she is right there. jessica was injured in training but went on to serve in
afghanistan and over time her injuries compounded. in addition to intense back pain she was struggling with post-traumatic stress and depression. it took her sick months to call for help but thanks to the love and support of her husband and she finally reached out. she discovered cycling. she said, i felt so free i felt like the weight was coming off. jessica, you are an inspiration. wi could not be prouder of the example you're setting for so many people. we have army staff sergeant casey mckeown. where's casey. casey's back there. decorated veteran. casey serve 15d years with the 14th infantry division including afghanistan, injured in an attack at his out post, he had to medically retierk something
he never imagined. he felt lost struggling to find work and living out of his jeep and some veterans service organizations helped him get back on his feet. today he's still fighting for his brothers and sisters who helps connect them. casey's a sproud rider today, we are proud of you, casey. thank you. and that's what's so row markable about this ride. dreamt up by a bartender. some of my best ideas have come in a bar. you too. huh? this is one of those ideas that the next day, actually, it was still good. it's a remiemtder -- that was not in the script. it's a reminder of the power of
one person to launch a movement that changes people's lives. it's a reminder of when men and women in uniform have made to keep our nation free and it's a reminder that for those called to serve their mission doesn't end on the battlefield. it's one you carry with you for the rest of your lives. our veterans will tell you themselves they may have put away their uniforms but they're not finished serving their country. that includes our wounded warriors who are here today who often tell me as soon is that can, they want to serve their country again. service in in their dna. giving back is what all of you do. as we know many of you returning still have hard time connecting opportunities to communityies ad finding ways to serve. today i want to thank our veteran for stepping up every day, making that connection.
organizations like the mission continues, organizations like team red, white, and blue, organizations like team rumakot. i know you're ready to run. i want to close with a quick story. we're joined by air force tech jason miller. where's jason. there's jason wright there. jason served four combat tours in afghanistan and iraq. he came home with his body intact but inside was struggling with wounds nobody can see. jason doesn't mind me telling you that he got depressed enough he considered taking his life. four years ago he wrote me a letter about what he was going through and he told me about how hard it was to get the services and support that he needed. as luck would have it right around that time i happened to meet with team rubikon which deploys veterans for emergency
response to disasters and make in addition to make sure they were follow up with jason i asked team rubicon to get in touch with him. that's what happens when euro command never chief. they take your phone call. team rubicon reached out. jason ended up joined rubicon. deployed to oklahoma that had been devastated by a tornado and with his teammates he threw himself into the work of helping others pick up their lives. in the process he found a path to a new life of his own and when jason talks about what this new opportunity means he quotes gandhi. he says the best way to find yourself is to lose others in the service of others and jason's spirit, the spirit of all of you is the story of our armed forces. it's about dedicated your life to a cause that's bigger than yourself. it's about support and love for each other and our country that
flows through everybody that serves under our proud flag. and it's about the country that pledges to be with you every step of the way, not just when we need you but also when you need us. that's why every day that i've left in this office, i'm going to keep doing everything i can to make sure we serve you as well as you serve us. that means making shoe you get the benefit use deserve, have the opportunity to contribute to our nation's success, to achieve your own dreams. you represent what's best about our nation. and i hope that all of the american people along the route will come out and show their support for these heroes not just today but every single day. god bless you, god bless all of our military families, all who serve. with that, we're going to let william strap up and then i'm going to blow the horn, which i always really enjoy. come on.
>> you've been listening to president obama. this is one of his favorite white house traditions welcoming the wounded warrior cyclists to the white house today. take a listen as he prepares to blow the horn and kick things off. >> i realize, though, i've done this quite a few years. i think i need some volunteers this year.
guys ready? here's what we're going to do because we eevlg got some volunteers here. i'm going to blow the horn first but we're going to let everybody. this is an unusual start. you're hear like, let's see, one, two, three, four, five, six, seven, eight, nine, ten, eleven -- there's going to be eleven blows of the horn. are you all prepared? you leave on 11. when you hear me, you know it's time to take off. you start and pack it down.
blower joined by bob mcdonald. so many young children and most importantly the wounded warriors, the cyclists participating in the annual tradition, as the president said one of his favorite traditions on a spring day on the south lawn at the white house. some high fives for those individuals as they pass right now. we're still working on our technical issues. tamron my colleague will be back when we have it sorted out. you're watching live coverage, the place for politics, msnbc. ok team, what if 30,000 people download the new app? we're good. okay... what if a million people download the new app? we're good. five million? good. we scale on demand. hybrid infrastructure, boom. ok. what if 30 million people download the app? we're not good. we're total heroes.
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peter alexander is standing by. peter, thank you so much. you know these things happen. it is as we say live coverage. thanks for covering. >> i travel with the sfud owe everywhere, thanks, tamron. >> let's keep the show on the road. if there's one thing we're learning about the gop primary, every single delegate counts. there's a good chunk that still belongs to senator marco rubio. he has 172. that's 10% of all of the delegates awarded so far. and more thandown kasich, by the way, can claim at this point, but a new nbc analyst found exactly how many of rubio's delegates are now up for grabs. nbc's chief correspondent ari melber joins us now. he still has supporters but he's also important as relates to the delegates. break down how this impacts an
open convention. >> that's right, tamron. he has 172 delegates he won and he took the unusual step to hold onto them. what we can report is for the first time 34 of them are now going to be up for grabs. that is coming from -- we can put up the map. oklahoma, minnesota, and louisiana. these are states where either state law or party rule ace cording to the interpretation of local republican officials means they're up for grabs. that means they can go to cruz or trump right now. wi spoke to the oklahoma state chair and she said, look, our state rules say if someone's not on the ballot, they're free to vote for whoever they choose and i support that. this is important as you mention because cruz and trump are separated by 200 debt gals total. cruz is out methodically working on these people. indeed, e spoke to a pastor from oklahoma just last night who got a rubio slot. he said he's for cruz and now as
we're reporting as the state rule allows him to do so, he'll be for cruz on the first ballot, tamron. >> it is intriguing, ari. every delegate counts. 34 will get a shrug. we know that 34 can be absolutely critical to what we see play out with donald trump if he goes in at least with the most degree gats. thank you very much, ari. also next. a deeper look at the roll of the 2016 race. we hear so much about it from both campaigns but it is definitely fueling bernie sanders. we'll take a look at the role money, wall street, and politics is playing. as you'll find out, it has not stopped the cash flow from rolling in. wall street, not far from where we are. in fact, live from brooklyn. we'll be right back.
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next up, ted cruz, $13 million and kasich below that, senator sanders received $300,000 and donald trump coming in with just $30,000. of course, he is more or less self-funds his campaign and the reason for that even though wall street skews conservative but they still seem to favor hillary clinton and even if they don't agree with some of the policies and imposing, at least they know what they're going to get and there's a fear down here with some of the things donald trump is talking about on the campaign trail, there's a fear, you know, maybe he could spark a trade war or actually get into a fight
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grabbing headlines. >> medicare for all will never happen if we elect local democrats beholden. and the private insurance industry instead of us. >> off the rails. the republican front-runner takes the trump train full steam ahead against the party bosses he says are stealing the election. >> we had delegates. they go in, they don't take them. i am just saying the system is a corrupt system and it's a rigged system and screams the voters are stealing the election. that's actually how elections work. >> we talk to the key players in the campaign and bernie sanders with jane sanders, hillary clinton's campaign manager and robbie visits the successor as
new york senator kirsten gillibrand and donald trump with the state chairman carl paladino. all that and more on "andrea mitchell reports." good day, i'm andrea mitchell in brooklyn in new york and tonight's big debate will likely have some fireworks over comments by a bernie sanders supporter. at last night's record-breaking rally across the bridge in washington square park, sanders spoke to a crowd with the campaign estimated to be 27,000. before sanders got there, one of his supporters, dr. paul sam said this about hillary clinton and her connection to big industries and this morning, he did use some strong language that may be offensive to a lot