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watching right here is of course bernie sanders as he was leaving the vatican, just talking a little bit about why he was there. if you're just joining us, we were watching as he was exiting there. bernie sanders, of course, got on a plane late last night after wrapping up that very fiery debate with hillary clinton right here in brooklyn. got on a plane, went to rome for this meeting. it was an invitation that in his words he said that was so moving he could not refuse to come. he was talking about the church's views on climate change and also this pope. he made that quick trip. there have been a number of questions this week as we look at the poll numbers here in new york, and if we look at things like the delegate count, there's been a lot of questions about whether bernie sanders should be making this trip 24 week, especially with four days to go
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until the primary before new york state. he was asked this question just moments ago. he said it was an invitation that was so moving that even though it took him off the trail for a day, he felt it was something he had to do. ann thompson joins us now with more. ann, good morning to you. >> reporter: good morning, erica. i don't think that question is going to go away anytime soon. there are a lot of people who really wonder why bernie sanders chose to do this when there was no guarantee that he would meet pope francis. now it is very clear he will not meet pope francis, at least in an official capacity. he had hoped to swing by the conference at 7:00 tonight, but because he has a very early morning call tomorrow because he is going to greece to try to draw the world's attention to the plight of refugees who are trying to enter europe, the pope will not be attending. he apologized for that.
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he sends his blessings and g goodwill, but the question is what does bernie sanders get out of this trip politically? he was a speech that was very much in line with the stump speech that he gives as a presidential campaign, but 24 hours in a crucial state like new york, especially a state that's very crucial to the sanders campaign, why take the time? i asked that of the communications director of the sanders campaign, michael briggs, erica. he told me what he was hoping is that the campaign would actually draw a contrast, a favorable contrast, with hillary clinton. she is going out to the west coast to raise money with the actor george clooney. there is going to be an event tomorrow night at his home where the price tag is up to $100,000 per couple. they hope that compares favorably with senator sanders coming here to the vatican to
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talk about income inequality and the fact that 60 people around the world own more than 3.5 billion at the bottom of the world's scale. erica? >> that is a hope we know from the sanders camp. we'll see how it all plays out. ann thompson live for us this morning. thank you. we started the hour live there at the vatican as we saw bernie sanders coming out. right now, we're in brooklyn, new york, where there has been much activity, as we mentioned. i'm erica hill in this morning for tamron hall. a lot of talk about hillary clinton. she is about to hold an event in harlem before she heads off to california for a fundraiser that will be hosted by george and amal clooney. it is not too far from the center of the financial world. wall street just miles away from brooklyn and it loomed large
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over the stage. >> do we really feel confident about a candidate saying that she's going to bring change in america when she is so dependent on big money interests? i don't think so. >> can you name one decision that she made as senator that shows that she favored banks because of the money she received? >> he cannot come up with any example because there is no example. i stood up against the behaviors of the banks when i was a senator. i called them out on their mortgage behavior. >> secretary clinton called them out. oh, my goodness. they must have been really crushed by this. was that before or after you received huge sums of money by giving speaking engagements? >> wait a minute. wait, wait. come on. i have stood on the debate stage
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with senator sanders eight prior times. >> excuse me. >> secretary, senator, please. secretary -- secretary, the viewers -- >> let's do it. >> excuse me. i think i'm responding now. >> please go ahead. >> i love being in brooklyn. this is great. >> moderators also brought up some of the heated rhetoric we've been hearing on the campaign trail, asking sanders point blank if he believes clinton has the judgment to be president. >> does secretary clinton have the experience and the intelligence to be a president? of course, she does, but i do question -- [ applause ] but i do question her judgment. i question a judgment which voted for the war in iraq, the worst foreign policy blunder in the history of this country, voted for virtually every disastrous trade agreement,
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which cost us millions of decent paying jobs, and i question her judgment about running super pacs. >> now that the spotlight is pretty bright here in new york some things have been said and senator sanders did call me unqualified. i've been called many things in my life. that was a first. he did say he had to question my judgment. wi well, the people of new york voted for me twice to be their senator of new york, and president obama trusted my judgment enough to ask me to be secretary of state. >> we've got all angles of the race covered with our team on the trail. we want to begin things this hour with kristen welker who is outside clinton campaign headquarters in brooklyn. not long from now hillary clinton will be making her way to the other side of the country. >> reporter: that's right. she's going to be heading to los angeles, erica, for some fundraisers hosted by george
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clooney. that will undoubtedly be a star-studded event. wh's happening here behind the scenes at brooklyn headquarters, they're preparing for a massive get out the vote effort. that's going to be critical if secretary clinton wants to win this state and win this state by a large margin. some of the polls show her leading by double digits. they're feeling pretty good in the wake of last night's debate because they don't feel it was a game changer. they felt she stood her ground on a number of key issues. however, there were some moments when she was on defense. she was pressed on that issue of when she is going to release her transcripts on those paid speeches. she said she'll do it when other people do the same. senator sanders said i haven't given any paid speeches, so we're just waiting for you to release yours. there was that robust exchange about the minimum wage. she supports raising the federal
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minimum wage to $12. she supports efforts for $15 an hour. take a listen to a little bit of that exchange. >> i have supported the fight for 15. i am proud to have the endorsement of most of the unions that have led the fight for 15. >> i am sure a lot of people are very surprised to learn that you supported raising the minimum wage to 15 bucks an hour. >> wait a minute. wait, wait. come on. i have stood on the debate stage with senator sanders eight prior times. >> senator. secretary, please. secretary, the viewers -- >> let's do it. >> when this campaign began, i said that we've got to end this starvation minimum wage of 7.25. raise it to 15. secretary clinton said let's raise it to 12. there's a difference. >> reporter: now the latest wnbc
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wall street journal/marist poll shows secretary clinton leading by about 17 points in new york, but i've been talking to clinton officials who think it is lower than that, that this is going to be tighter heading into tuesday. that's why there's so much focus on getting out the vote and getting out her base. erica? >> all right. we'll continue to follow it. kristen, thank you. hillary clinton is getting ready to speak in harlem. we may have a little bit of that right now if we could listen in. [ speaking in a foreign language ] >> i've had a chance to meet some of you who live here. thank you for making me feel so welcome. and i now know where to come when i want a good game of dominos.
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look, i wanted to come here to really make a very strong plea that we do more when i am president to help the people who live in developments like this. today, too many new yorkers are struggling to pay rising rents. they're being priced out of communities where they've lived for years, pushed further away from jobs and quality schools and good transportation, and latino and black families are being hit hardest.
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that's why i'm making investing in affordable housing a major priority of what i call my breaking every barrier agenda. [ applause ] so we're going to create more incentives from the federal government for affordable housing. we're going to boost funding for what are called section 8 vouchers. we're going to give people more choices as to where they live, and we're going to do more to help particularly young people afford to buy a home. i want to provide $10,000 to match the money for a down payment, so your children, your grandchildren, all of our young people can get a home, if they want that.
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[ applause ] [ translation in spanish ] and at the same time, i am going to work hard with leaders like the speaker to put more federal money back into public housing, like the senior center. you know, over the past 15 years, federal funding for the new york city housing authority has decreased by nearly 30%.
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you've lost nearly 1/3 of the funding that used to come from the federal government to new york. and i know that the new york housing authority is billions of dollars behind in making repairs and maintenance. i saw some of those problems in the apartment we visited. residents are forced to live with mold, with leaking roofs, with broken elevators. that is not acceptable in new
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york or america. [ cheering and applause ] so as part of my agenda, i will work as hard as i know how to provide more funding for public housing, and we're going to also look at how we connect that to broader economic development efforts so that we are looking not just at housing, apart from everything else, but housing, education, jobs, opportunities. i want to help lift up everybody. we can rise together if we have the right plans and the will to do that. [ translation in spanish ]
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and i want to say a word about puerto rico. [ cheering ] you know, when i was your senator, i considered myself the senator for puerto rico. i went to puerto rico last september to see for myself what was happening there because of these terrible economic pressures. the island is in a crisis. half the people are living in poverty. the schools are being shut down. doctors are leaving because they can't get paid, leaving people
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without health care. >> and you've been listening to hillary clinton there. she is in harlem, new york, speaking at a senior center there talking a lot about public housing fund. she mentioned there is a broader impact on the economy beyond just the money that goes into the public housing, saying she would work more to do that. also that she would work to put federal money back into public housing, so hillary clinton speaking there in harlem before she makes her way to the west coast later today. karen, nice to have you with us this morning. >> great to be with you. >> i want to talk a little bit first about last night's debate. one of the things that really stood out was this moment where hillary clinton said again, sort of dodged the question, but reinforced the point she would not release the transcripts of
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the speeches to wall street. take a listen. >> there are certain expectations when you run for president. this is a new one, but i will tell you this. there is a longstanding expectation that everybody running release their tax returns, and you can go to my website and see eight years of tax returns. and i've released 30 years of tax returns, and i think every candidate, including senator sanders and donald trump, should do the same. >> you're running now for the democratic nomination. >> right. >> and it is your democratic opponent and many democratic voters who want to see those transcripts. it's not about the republicans at this point. >> let's set the same standard for everybody. when everybody does it, okay, i will do it.
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[ booing ] but let's expect the same standard on tax returns. >> this is clearly not going away. it could have been resolved a long time ago. why shouldn't hillary clinton be the one to set the standard? if there is nothing to hide, why not just release those transcripts? >> i was watching that exchange last night thinking that, you know, this is what the sanders campaign wants. the insinuation that there is something nefarious. when asked directly, senator sanders had no answer. i wish he would say directly what he has insinuated time and time again. because she got paid for making a speech, that somehow influenced any activity or action she's ever taken. that's really what's at the heart of this. look, we're just not going to play that game with senator
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sanders. if everybody else will release all of their transcripts, great. let's all release our tax return. she's released 30 years, and let's go from there. >> we know the tax returns are coming. to your point, senator sanders did not have an answer for a specific incident with wall street. but that just plays into the question this isn't just republicans who are asking for it. these are democratic voters who are still trying to make up their minds. why then if there is nothing to hide, why not just release those transcripts? >> well, again, senator sanders is trying to use this to make an allegation to which he has absolutely no response when asked where is the proof. i think a lot of voters also find that very offensive. more importantly, if you are trying to figure out how to send your kid to college, if you are
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trying to figure out, you know, how to take care of a sick parent or wanting your child's schools to be improved, this is not something you care about. i understand -- i think we understand the sort of media fascination with this, but i'm just telling you i've been out there on the road talking to voters. this never comes up. people want to know -- and i think we heard a lot of specifics from secretary clinton last night about the things she wants to do to help move our country forward as she talked about break down those barriers. as she was just talking about this morning, lift everybody up. that is what everybody wants to talk about. >> we appreciate you joining us this morning. thank you. >> you bet. >> want to get some reaction now from the sanders' campaign. dav he is a super delegsuperdelegat.
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>> a lot of peop-- you think yo candidate did very well? >> i think it was his strongest debate so far. >> where do you think he will turn the tide? >> i think what he highlighted was a difference between him and secretary clinton, and the american people want him to hone in on his vision because that's what so many people are really invested in, making sure we are changing politics as we know it. the fact that we are not talking about small incremental changes, but actually comparing ourselves to the things that other countries are doing that we know that we have the capability to do too if we prioritize it. >> when senator sanders was asked specifically to point to an incident of where he saw a connection between something that hillary clinton did and what he perceived as a true
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influence from wall street, he could not name a single example. does that concern you? this has been a major talking point for him. yet he couldn't come up with the question there. >> this comes up back to the transcripts for the speeches secretary clinton has given that have not been released, right? i think the highlights last night about secretary clinton's judgment and bernie honing in on that fact that his vision is to make sure to highlight the difference in judgment between these two candidates, it's so important when it comes to the decisions that have to be made as president. >> is it clear there's not an incident mr. sanders knows of? he's been making this claim for sometime. he'll only know it's valid once the transcripts are released. >> we are in new york, right? this is a state where people like keeping it real. i think they want transparency. they want to see that if you have their best interest at
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heart, you can provide that. i think the secretary has to answer some of those questions. >> we are in new york. we are four days away from the primary here. your candidate is not here. he was just leaving the vatican. there's been a lot of talk about whether this visit will have a payoff for him, especially looking at the numbers as we see now between him and hillary clinton here in new york. are you concerned that that trip might hurt him? >> not at all. the senator is really honored to be highlighted by this conference at the vatican talking about social, economic, and environmental justice issues that effect the whole globe. he's honored to be there, and he will be back in the empire state tomorrow campaigning. i think he gets a lot of people who are following those issues and know that he's -- globally connected to folks concerned about those issues.
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>> one of the findings is among sanders supporters 30% said they would not support secretary clinton if she were the nominee. focus in the republican party was about divisions there, but there's some serious divisions within the democratic party. do you believe sanders supporters, if hillary clinton is in fact the nominee, will be able to rally around her in november? >> well, i think if that's the case and the secretary wins the nomination, i think the hillary campaign will need all the help they can get, especially from people on the bernie side to help get out and engage the voters and talk about issues that they're still concerned about so they can get straight answers as things that came up last night. on social security, on carbon taxes, on a number of things that impact their lives. >> appreciate you being here. nice to have you today. thanks. we look at the republicans next. once again it is donald trump
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we actively manage with expertise and conviction. so you can invest with more certainty. mfs. that's the power of active management. welcome back. you see that beautiful shot there. we are here in brooklyn at brooklyn bridge park, so we are just below that lovely bridge we all know so well and it is known well around the world. there are new accusations this morning from donald trump about what he says is a system rigged against him. he is drilling down once again on colorado, where of course he won zero delegates. in that op-ed he writes no one forced anyone to cancel the vote in colorado. political insiders made a choice to cancel it. donald trump takes sharp aim at
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ted cruz who took all the delegates up for grabs in that state, saying, quote, voter disenfranchisement isn't only part of the cruz strategy, it is the cruz strategy. >> over 60,000 people a month ago in colorado voted at their precinct level. then they went to the county level. then they went to the congressional district level. i think it is a little too late to complain after the fact that a particular state's process isn't something that you like. >> she joins us now live. katy, clearly this is not going away. donald trump continuing to hammer the point. why? is the campaign finding this is really resonating with voters? >> it definitely is resonating with the voters that are fan of donald trump, the voters that
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like donald trump. he is sending this message of washington not representing their values. i'm an outsider and i can't win in this insider game because i am an outsider, but i will stand up for you, the little guy, but he's not necessarily going after the rnc anymore. at least as of today. in that "wall street journal" op-ed, he did not trash the rnc. instead he focused his fire almost entirely on ted cruz, saying that ted cruz is trying to disenfranchise voters. essentially that ted cruz is trying to steal the election away. donald trump has a new strategy team in place who are saying, hey, we can't alienate the rnc because many of the delegates we're hoping to get are party loyalists. they need to pick up a lot of unbound delegates. that means trading directly with them, talking directly with them
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to support team trump. for pennsylvania, there are 54 unbound delegates right now, so it's a combination of bringing in the voters, but also making deals. this is dpaexactly what the campaign is going to try and do from now. they're going to try to figure out a way to smooth things over with the party while continuing to appeal to voters. it's a fine line they have to walk, but they think they're going to be able to do it. >> separately, there was this endorsement today from the new york post which often has a lot of fun with its front pages. here's part of what the post wrote. donald trump is a rookie candidate, a superstar of vast promise, but making rookie mistakes. he needs to be better informed on policy and less thin skinned. the rookie is after all leading
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the field of fine ialists here. it was like, well, we think he might have some potential, so let's go with it. how is the campaign responding to that? >> they haven't responded to it this morning. john kasich who does not necessarily have a path to the nomination at this point. donald trump looks like the most logical endorsement for the post, but remember the daily news, new york's other big tabloid, has been going after trump relentlessly, eviscerating him at every opportunity they get. so it is a really dichotomy between new york's more traditional daily news tabloid and what is traditionally been seen as a very conservative ta tablo tabloid, the new york post. >> thank you as always. >> thank you. >> ted cruz meantime has apparently not given up on new york, campaigning in the state yesterday and today.
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all part of an effort of course to gain some ground on donald trump, who has we know it, holds a huge lead in every poll here in new york. >> reporter: hey there. good morning. ted cruz today will head to a couple of stops in upstate new york. hoping for a better reception up there than what he got at this new york republican dinner. those applause lines fell flat. he got no laughter, no backup support from the crowd. a cruz supporter told us hey, it was late. people had been drinking wine. others in the crowd said this was really trumpville. it felt like more of a trump crowd. even though when trump support, you didn't see a ton of support for him. you saw maybe half and half. the crowd mixed in reaction to these candidates. cruz of course coming off a week in which he has had to defend himself from his delegate
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hunting system as donald trump talks about the process being corrupt and rigged. cruz says it's democracy in action. it's what he told chuck todd yesterday. it's what he's continuing to say on message, that rules are rules. this is cruz laying the groundwork for what could be a contested convention in cleveland in july. >> it is fascinating to watch the whole process. you don't want to miss our special broadcast coming up this afternoon "road warriors." our correspondents will talk more about what life is really like on the campaign trail. it all begins right here at 4:00 p.m. on msnbc. when we return, taking the campaign out of new york city. this is a very big state, and the big apple does not define it. we'll learn which candidate is
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we are back live from brooklyn. here's another shot of this beautiful brooklyn bridge. you can also see the freedom tower behind it. as we look at this structure, it's a national landmark. spans the east river there, so it goes from lower manhattan over to brooklyn, which is one of the largest areas of new york city. the borough of brooklyn. plenty of people using the span there every single day in their commute. driving. one of the oldest bridges here. we love being in its shadow in brooklyn bridge park as we countdown to the new york primary. just four days left. one of the biggest issues for
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upstate new york is jobs. according to the department of labor, that region alone has lost, get this, 40% of its manufacturing jobs since 2000. 40%. tony is talking with students at monroe community college in rochester in new york. >> reporter: that's right. this has kind of become candidate central in recent days. bernie sanders has been through. hillary clinton has been through. ted cruz is coming. john kasich was in the area and also donald trump. and they're all talking about jobs, jobs, jobs. these are high-skilled trade jobs. 40% of the manufacturing base has left the state in the past four years. i'm here talking to them to find out what is making this boom happen and how they're becoming a part of it. this is matt. when you look at the candidates in 2016, the ones that are going to be your defenders
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economically for the next four or eight years, who do you like? >> i'm a believer in small government, so i think at this point in the primary i'd be voting for john kasich. >> john kasich. i know earlier when we were talking you were saying your fiancee is a donald trump fan. why not donald trump? >> i was a fan of his on "celebrity apprentice." i'm not sure i'm a fan anymore. i don't think he's got the diplomacy for lack of a better term to be president. i think we need somebody that's going to have all the skills that are needed for the job. >> all right, matt. thank you very much. before you go, i want you to get you a perspective on this minimum wage policy. democrats support $15 minimum wage nationally. the republicans not so much. that's a big issue here because these students are working hard
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training for jobs where they're likely to get $15. this is donnell, he's retraining to do higher skilled -- to be a more skilled metal worker. you're looking at a $15 an hour job here. how do you feel when somebody might be paid the same at a fast food restaurant? >> it's frustrating. the idea of just someone making that amount and not going through those same struggles. it kills the drive to do what we're actually doing. >> i'll let you get back to work. it's not only a republican area. one reason republicans might be opposed to the $15 minimum wage is they don't believe in it as a policy. >> thanks to all those folks you were speaking with there
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♪ with intuitive all-wheel drive. take on the unexpected. welcome back to brooklyn bridge park. you can see there a lovely shot of east river and the beautiful brooklyn bridge. 170,000 people during the summer visit this park every weekend. you can see why. right here on the waterfront underneath that bridge which links brooklyn to lower manhattan. as we keep pointing out and it is so crucial to say, new york city does not define new york state. when we take a look at upstate new york, for example, we find a much different situation on the ground.
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kate snow is joining us now live from the village of flag creek, where she's been speaking with voters who are struggling to find decent paying jobs. kate, what have they been telling you? what is the biggest hurdle at this point? >> reporter: hey, erica. thank you for mentioning upstate new york. this is the real new york state. this is the mill pond that feeds into an apple cider mill. it is a great place. they're doing very well. they're prosperous, but as you say, part of the story up here is when you drive around and you get out of this little town and drive out, you see a lot of poverty. you see a lot of rundown homes and rundown businesses. there's been a lot of flight of population out of this area in central new york. the poverty rate here is about 19% in this county. that's way above the national average. last night we drove over to another county. the poverty rate there is about 17%. we went to a pizza shop. great place.
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it's called new york pizzeria in the town of new berlin. it's run by a woman named betsy and her husband who is from italy. we talked to betsy about what's happening here upstate and who you it is feeding into the political dynamics this year. >> we've been driving around, i told you. you see a lot of towns that look like -- things have been better. >> this is the first time in the last five years i've ever seen foreclosures here. there's probably about five houses in town right now that are being foreclosed. and the families are out. >> what does that mean for politics, for the election? do you think people want a change? >> i think people are so divided. people either see the one side. a total change is going to be fabulous or they want more help from the government, which is the other side. i've never seen it so split.
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>> do you see the attraction of donald trump around here? >> i do. and i think a lot of it is just an anger reaction. >> what do you mean by anger? >> they're angry there hasn't been change. they're not heard. they're angry things just stay kind of the way they are. they feel like if you shake everything up, something new will happen. i think maybe it's not even so much pro-donald as it is things would be so radically different. >> reporter: and the thing about it it's not that there is a lot of unemployment. there is unemployment up here, but it isn't sky-high. the jobs that are available are lower income jobs. a lot of companies have moved out. manufacturing has moved out of this area, so people are left with low-wage jobs and they're struggling to make ends meet. erica? >> it absolutely is.
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maybe not sky-high, but 17%, everyo even 19%, those are still very, very high rates. we'll have much more i know from you later in the day from upstate new york. meantime as we are here in brooklyn, the battle for this very large borough of new york city -- of course, there are five boroughs that make up new york city. that battle is on with both democratic candidates doing their best to tout their ties to the area, but are those efforts working? we'll take you up onto that famous bridge just over my shoulder and we'll ask the voters next. give it up. ok, but i have 30 acres to cover by sundown. we'll be with him all day as he goes back to taking tylenol. yeah, i was ok, but after lunch my knee started hurting again so... more pills. yep... another pill stop. can i get my aleve back yet? for my pain... i want my aleve. get all day minor arthritis pain relief
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the democratic candidates have been out in full force here in brooklyn debating, of course, here last night and holding numerous campaign events as they try to court the borough's nearly 900,000 registered democrats. cal perry has been speaking with some of those voters, where else? on the brooklyn bridge.
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calvin, good morning. >> reporter: good morning, erica. as we've said, talking to people all morning. three types of people here on the bridge. we've got tourists, folks who don't care about the election or from out of town. people trying to get to work and we did catch la rain on her morning walk to manhattan taking a stroll. she didn't like and she tells us a lot of people didn't like the tone. take a listen. >> did you see the debate last night? >> i did. half of it. i guess overall, it's just disappointing that everybody's so negative. it just gets after a while, people just yelling at each other. >> were you surprised by the tone of the debate? >> i was surprised by the tone. we heard bernie was going to go after her a bit more, but i think that he, you know, as much as he's too liberal for me, i think he has passion and conviction and wants to do the right thing. i don't think he's got the expertise or experience but the
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issue with her, she changes her life. >> reporter: erica, as we show our viewer your location from our location, i think what surprised a lot of people here in brooklyn was that the tone was coming through in a democratic debate. we've been hearing from people listen that tone in the republican debate hasn't been a surprise, but up until now, it seemed like bernie and hillary were at least on the same page and their tone was. clearly, last night seems to be a departure from that. >> it's an interesting point, something we've been talking about this week and some comes off the polling from earlier this week. this "wall street journal" poll showing clinton and sanders supporters support the opposite candidate and out of that, grew this real discussion of the divide within the democratic party and whether or not the eventual nominee will be able to sort of rally everyone back around. does that seem to be a concern at all for the voters you've met that they're concerned about a
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splintering of the party? >> reporter: yeah. in a place that's known as sort of a liberal borough, we've been hearing from people who want the best shot at trump, people who don't want donald trump to succeed. it's a big surprising when you have the beautiful skyline that donald trump would be finding it difficult to get traction here, but it seems like the priority is certainly for the democratic voters and a reminder here, it's a closed primary. you've got to be ready to vote democrat. for the democratic voters, it seems to be, what gives us the best shot against donald trump and two candidates, as you're sort of saying going at it so vigorously last night may not be the thing that they want going into the general. yes, i think it's absolutely a concern, especially when you're in the sort of more liberal areas of new york. >> yeah, and as we heard earlier from kristen welker, she said the clinton campaign really doesn't feel it's a lock and they'll be campaigning hard this weekend. still the battle there for some of the votes. cal perry, enjoy your walk. it's one of my favorite walks in
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