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a lot of politics ahead to cover. steve kornacki picks it up right now. good morning to you. i'm steve kornacki. topping the agenda this hour, donald trump calling for both john kasich and ted cruz to get out of the race. this as his campaign promises a brand-new tone and more presidential candidate. >> in the case of lyin' ted cruz. he lies, oh, he lies. ted brings the bible, holds it high, puts it down and lies. >> donald trump still refusing to let go of the lyin' ted rhetoric. his new moves show a campaign that is trying to get ready for the general election. all of the details on what's going on inside the trump campaign coming up. also on our agenda, ted cruz
vowing to force an open convention this summer. he says this race nowhere near finished. >> the final state to vote will be the state of california. 172 delegates. the big enchilada. california is going to decide this race. and i'm very encouraged by how we're going to do in california. >> the leader of the stop trump movement in florida yesterday making his case to republicans that a contested convention should swing in their favor away from donald trump. and donald trump's team is going to be there today. we are live in florida with the latest rounding out our agenda this morning. what is next for the bernie sanders campaign? >> bernie's made a commitment to go through until the end. millions of people are part of this campaign. >> sanders' campaign strategist
laying out his case of where the campaign goes from here on the rachel maddow show last night. we'll talk to a top u.s. senator on whether the prolonged battle is hurting the democratic party. and we'll ask her about who hillary clinton might pick as a vice presidential candidate if hillary clinton gets the nomination. all that and much more still ahead. we begin with our top story. a changing tone for donald trump. within a few days, he's expected to hire his first speechwriter and a teleprompter may find its way on to the campaign trail with donald trump. this is a story first report by t"the wall street journal," now confirmed by nbc news. it's a new look for the donald trump campaign and it appears imminent as they try to lock up the nomination before june 7th. the trump family arriving on the "today" show plaza for a campaign town hall. we'll show you that interview in just a moment. let's go first to jacob rascon in indiana for details we're
hearing about donald trump. new donald trump. what does that mean? what can we expect here? >> a couple of things to keep in mind when we talk about tone. we've gotten a taste of what kind of tone he might take going toward during the aipac speech. he used a teleprompter. prepared with a speech. he had help from a sort of speechwriter. we've heard him like in his victory speech, be more presidential. notution lyin' ted for example. maybe we'll see more of it. we also see at his rallies, no change in tone. last night and the night before, at his rallies he does the same thing. still talks about lyin' ted. still goes on talking about how dishonest the media are, saying they're disgusting and telling the crowd to turn around. we're seeing no change in tone in the rallies but when he's making policy speeches. he's going to make his first a week from now tying together
economics and foreign policy. we'll do that in washington. he's hired a speechwriter and is practice with teleprompters. we're here at a popular cafe in indianapolis. it's been around 30 years or so. we're talking to trump voters and anti-trump folks as well. we're here with this group of folks. and they work together. this is joanne. you were telling me you are not a trump fan. >> no. >> let me ask you, though. he has a plan to change his tone to sound more presidential and give his policy speeches. would that sway you at all? >> no, because it's not authentic. he has a history. we know what he stands for. we know how little information he has about the world we live in. when he can stand there and say the things he says about the wall he wants to build, about 7/11 rather than 9/11, he does not have any credibility. it's astonishing to me that he's
come as far as he has. >> thank you, joanne, for that. he does have a chance to get real support here, steve. indiana leads the nation in manufacturing. carrier, the air conditioning plant that moved to mexico that he loves to talk about is here. we know he's going to be back. he really wants to win indiana and might need to win indiana. >> indiana probably the biggest single wild card left on the board in the republican race. jacob rascon in indiana. welcome to the msnbc sweater club. i like that look today. like to see that spread on our airwaves. >> i've worn it before. i wore it first. >> we'll give you half credit for that. >> just kidding. donald trump about that reboots. he and his wife melania and his children all appearing on the "today" show this morning. for a behind the scenes look at
family man donald trump. look at that. >> one word to describe this campaign. >> leadership. >> incredible. >> inspiring. >> energetic. >> motivational. >> when you think about what's happened so far, is there a favorite moment, a best moment that comes to mind? ivanka? >> i think for me seeing the actual rallies and seeing him interact with people all over this country has been the most amazing thing. we see it now materializing in terms of the actual votes but seeing iminspiring so many people, seeing his message resonate, seeing the passion and love and enthusiasm and many of the ads jecti adjectives used a minutes ago. i've watched him inspire thousands of executives over the years as a leader of a large company. to see him do it on a much
larger stage. >> some of the other family members might say 3 1/2 weeks ago when you had a baby was one of the best moments on the campaign. >> i don't really consider that a campaign moment. >> this family has grown up in a very high-profile way. you're used to the spotlights. but this is different. the crowds, secret service. are there moments when you wish you could put the genie back in the bottle? >> no. it's time. when you look at this country and what's happened, it's time to get someone who is not the typical politician, not beholden to special interest. they tell you what they want to hear and then go do whatever the people writing their checks do. i think it's time. you can see by their reaction. i've had people come up to me all over the country. some of them in tears. thank you for letting your father do this. yeah, as if i had any control. thank you for letting him do
this. it means so much to us. and it really is time. i think people believe that. >> melania, you've told the story before about when he talked about running you said, i kind of hope you don't, but if you do run, you will win. do you think as far as he's gotten has surprised even donald, that it's really gotten this close where he's about to clinch the republican nomination? >> it's unbelievable what is going on. and for so long he's number one for now ten months, and i never thought about it. i know his energy. i know how people love him and connect to him. he's telling the truth. if you run, you will win. >> did he believe that then? >> i don't know. >> i'm not so sure. she believed it. i'm not so sure. i have confidence. i know the people of the country. they want to see things happen and happen quickly. >> let me ask you all this question personally, not
politically. you've been through a wild ride over this last year. you've watched the ups and downs of this campaign. the great moments, difficult moments. you are getting to a point where it looks like he's going to get the most votes of any candidate on the republican side. you're going to go to cleveland. how is it going to feel personally if the rest of the republican party does whatever they can to prevent him from getting the nomination? personally? >> we're proud of him. we could not be more proud of him. we've worked next to our father every day for the last ten years. but we're proud of him. he's done something no one has ever done before. and they've tried to hold him back the entire time. >> but when you get to cleveland, what's is it going to feel like in your gut to watch what happens there? >> we're going to win in cleveland. there's just so question about it. >> tiffany? how about you? >> i think that truly we need to look at what an amazing thing he's done for all of us. he was doing this for our
family, for the country. he really believes in making america great again. and let's hope that what happened in cleveland is positive and luckily he's continuing to excel. we're just very proud. >> we know that mr. trump values his children, not just his children but his advisers. ivanka, you are one of his top advisers. what's a piece of advice you've given him about running a general election against hillary clinton? >> i think he values our advice all equally. but i tend not to provide my advice on topics political like that. i think his instincts are incredible. i think he will do incredibly well, as he's done incredibly well to date. and really, you know, my role as his daughter is to support him. i'm obviously his advocate. i've seen what he's done as a parent, on a personal level, and as a leader who has grown an enormous business and succeeded in many businesses, building many businesses and setting the
vision for them. i have no doubt he can apply that to this country and fix the many problems we have. i am his daughter and supporter. that's the extend of it. >> you mentioned him as a parent. melania and kids, jump in on these. the potpourri section of the interview. we watch him on the campaign trail. he's extremely intense. what makes him emotional? when is the last time you saw him cry? >> i don't know that we've seen him cry all that's often. now that he's a granfather as well and i have five kids, ivanka has three. watching him play with them you see another side of donald trump. there's the business guy. when you see him around a family table, the sense of humor, the love, playing dolls with my 20-year-old, watching them swing a golf club. it's a different side nobody gets to see. >> i agree with that's. he's amazing with my children as well, and i see trumpisms picked
up by each of them from spending time with him especially during the summer. he's remarkable in that capacity. i think, though, he has tremendous empathy. and that's a side people don't see. my whole life i've watched as he's ripped stories out of newspapers that he's read about something that's happened to somebody or adversity that somebody is being faced with often, put in a situation where they don't have the power to effect change and were unfairly put there. he'll proactively reach out to that person and bring them into the office and help them. and that's not reported. that's not seen but i've witnessed it my whole life. he's incredibly empathetic to what's happening to other people. >> mrs. trump, everyone wants to answer this question. what's the one habit you wish he'd give up? >> let's see.
retweeting. >> that's the quietest donald trump has ever been for seven minutes in his life. >> i can verify that. >> the quietest donald trump has ever been. that was donald trump and his family. his family the stars there on the "today" show earlier. out on the "today" show plaza. as that town hall played out, the stop trump movement is focusing on the state of florida where the republican national committee is holding their spring meeting and the topic of a contested convention undoubtedly in the air there. ted cruz and john kasich appearing in front of republicans there yesterday. donald trump's team expected to show up there today. we're joined now. casey hunt is in florida. obviously, the topic of what's to come for this republican primary fight on the agenda down there in florida. what's going on. what are you hearing down there? >> a couple of things here, steve. first of all, the battle between cruz and kasich heating up with
cruz calling kasich a spoiler. kasich turning around saying he has just as good of a shot at the nomination. the up shot of that back and forth, though, with both of those men relying on an open convention to have any hope of winning the nomination when all is said and done, that could ultimately help donald trump. there are a lot of insiders in the halls here starting to wonder. this is sick luckal. it goes back and forth. the idea donald trump won so strongly in new york that he now, of course, is more likely to end up with that hard 1,237 number. there's broad agreement he has to hit that on this first ballot or he'll not be the republican party's nominee. now his top staff, paul manafort and others are going to make a 90-minute presentation to the members down here. these are the people donald trump has been out and about essentially criticizing, saying they are rigging the system. so he's got an uphill climb. there's a couple of questions
that some of those members are going to have for manafort. first of all, if they can't rangel all these delegates together, how are they going to organize a campaign that can beat hillary clinton? second of all, it's going to take a billion, maybe $1.5 billion to run this campaign. donald trump has no financing infrastructure to speak of. he's been talking so much about how he's self-funding. so questions from these folks who understand what it takes to run against a democrat. how are you going to get that together? what are you going to do to make sure you can keep pace in the fall and ultimately beat her? and what is donald trump going to do to stay out of the way or to help republicans down ballot to make sure the party keeps the house and the senate, steve. >> casey, in terms of where the party will go from here, they are gathered down there in florida. is there a next step? anything concrete that will come out of this? >> there's a rules committee
meeting later today. you have to keep in mind that all they are doing here is recommending potential changes to that all-important rules committee that will be created for the week before the convention. there may be some fireworks there. some discussion about whether to change the procedure for how things go on the convention floor. but everyone i've talked to says most of those proposals are going to be rejected. the rnc doesn't want to be perceived as changing the rules before the game. keep an eye on what reince priebus decides to do about who should run that rules committee in cleveland. that's up to him. there's discussion about who might be on the short list. they can't pick anybody that's either put their fing or ter on scale for trump or cruz. there aren't that many people who fit the bill, steve. >> casey hunt in hollywood, florida. thanks for that. and halle jackson is in frederick, maryland. she's covering the cruz campaign. i've heard ted cruz out there
saying, well, it's a done deal. we're going to a contested convention. no one is getting 1,237. not sure that's etched in stone, however. >> it's not etched in stone. ted cruz wants to say it's virtually impossible for him to get the math. donald trump still has a shot. he has to win greater than half of the delegates moving forward in order to do so but it's not a mathematical impossibility though way it almost is for ted cruz who still needs about 98% to lock tup. one of his arguments is trump cannot get a majority of republican voters, a majority of conservatives to back him. here's what cruz had to say about that yesterday. >> donald consistently has been a fringe and marginal candidate getting about one-third of the vote. he can't earn a majority and won't earn a majority in cleveland. >> he won in new york.
>> he won in his own home state but he cannot earn a majority across the country. the only way you become the republican nominee is to earn a mair majority. that's what's i believe we're going to do in cleveland. >> reporter: here's the problem for ted cruz. he and john kasich are splitting to a degree that anti-trump vote and that's frustrating to the cruz campaign. what's frustrating to the kasich campaign is the idea that he keeps calling on john kasich to suspend his campaign or come on board with the cruz team. that said, the kasich team is visibly annoyed by that and are increasingly concerned with this stop trump movement. that idea is bubbling over. some can't believe the anti-trump folks are backing cruz over kasich, even though they believe kasich has the better shot in the general election. a stop trump superpac is firing back. make america awesome has been one of the leaders of this
movement saying that's not the case. it's up to the candidates to take the lead in the movement and the never trump movement is there to support them and back them up. >> halle jackson on the cruz beat in frederick, maryland. thanks for that. going to squeeze a quick break in. when we come back, you'll want to see this. pennsylvania's key on the republican side not so much for the republican primary we always talk about but the unbound delegates. a huge group of them coming out of that state. they could be the deciding factor in this republican race. guess what? our delegate hunter is going to sit down with four of them and find out what are on their minds. four of the most important delegates in america. also hillary clinton releasing a new ad in connecticut and rhode island feet aring te i featuring the da sandy hook victim.
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that sanders faces insurmountable odds. she'd need to clinch just 29% more. sanders needs to win more than 70%. clinton has nearly 2,000 delegates. that number is if you are adding in the superdelegates. the sanders people suggest if they could win the pledge delegate, the superdelegates will flip. clinton could reach the magic number by may 17th. the sanders campaign would not want you to do that. scranton, pennsylvania, the home of dunder miflin and the long running series" the office." what is the path forward? realistically what is the sanders campaign telling you about where they go from here? >> i'm sorry. they're just shouting bernie,
bernie, bernie. tell me again? >> the path forward, the clinton campaign is saying there is no path forward for bernie. what are they saying? >> i just talked to jeff weaver. and i asked him whether or not when bernie sanders went home to vermont whether or not there were conversations about getting out of the race. and he said zero. and i said none? he said zero. there were no comments about changing the message. they think they have a situation where they're just going to keep with the game plan. that means a place like pennsylvania, they're going to keep pounding away and looking for crowds like this. if we sort of zoom in, this is a very long block. this line goes all the way down the block. it goes around. the problem for bernie sanders is exactly what you see in this crowd, though.
there's a lot of college students. there are a lot of the demographics of the people, frankly, who have been good to his campaign. but he has not been able to expand in many of the places. they'll be focussed on areas where they think they can run up some of the vote. keep hillary clinton's numbers down. a place like scranton, they think, will be good for him because they think there's a lot of working class voters where his message is going to resonate here. >> i got that theme song from "the office" in my head now. thanks for the report from scranton, pennsylvania. still ahead -- we'll call it our most important number of the day. we're looking ahead to the next state where the stop trump movement says it can actually beat trump and why the rules in that state make it one of the most important ones left. but first, how about this? ha harriet tubman has been announced as the new face of the $20 bill.
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that the stop trump forces think they can actually stop trump in. i'll explain the details in a minute. here's the map. these are the states still to come in this republican race. next week it's going to be in here. the miss atlantic and in new england. five different states voting next week. the question for the stop trump people isn't can you beat trump. it's can you squeeze some delegates out of there. then comes indiana, tuesday, may 3rd. it's the only contest that day. that's the one where ted cruz thinks he can knock off donald trump. it's so important. that question we've been talking about of whether donald trump can hit 1,237. that's because of the rules in indiana. that's where the 9 comes in. there are 57 delegates up for grabs. if you win the state. if you even win it by one vote you'll get 30 delegates just for winning the state. then those nine districts, those nine districts come into play. each district that's you win,
you get three delegates for. that adds up to 27. 30 and 27 gets you 57. if this is a close race, you can make an argument that ted cruz should win the state of indiana. donald trump can win indiana. this looks like friendly territory for both of them. if it's a close race, if trump wins by a couple of points over ted cruz, think about this. he'll get the 30 delegates for winning the state and if he's winning the state he's probably winning about six of these congressional districts. so 30 plus 18. with a small win in this state, trump could walk away with 48 delegates or more than 48. flip it around. if it's really, really close but trump comes up just short of ted cruz, a two or three-point ted cruz win, that's reverses. trump loses those 30 delegates. maybe only walks away with nine. maybe less than nine. look at that. that's a swing of like 40
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so we've been talking about the potential new look of the presidential campaign. also the stop trump forces trying to keep him from that magic number of 1,237, trying to force an open convention. a contested convention in cleveland. to talk more about the state of this race, the prospects of that open convention, let's turn to hugh hewitt, the host of the hugh hewitt show. now a morning radio program. do you like getting up -- i hate
it. do you like getting up in the mornings? >> i have done three hours of radio already this morning and i'm energized and awake and two pots of coffee later, my day is open. i like the morning. >> i've been trying the coffee kick. still hasn't kicked in for me. i've been looking at the numbers. i feel i do see a path for donald trump to get to the primaries. take me through why you think it's not going to happen. >> sure. i did this a lot this morning. there are 15 states left on the republican side. donald trump needs 392 delegates to reach 1,237. i went through state by state and was very generous. i gave him 51 of the 57 delegates in indiana. most people don't do things like that. he's not going to win any in nebraska orred is respond he needs 392.
he only gets to 273. that means he needs 117 delegates coming out of -- 119 delegates coming out of all the other primaries except california. california has 171 available. it's very hard for me seeing donald trump getting more than 100 of the california delegates. even under the rosiest of scenarios when you sit down and do the math under the rules. rhode island is purporroportiop. he can't get to 1,237 unless a political asteroid hits california. i don't see it happening. >> in california it's such a wild card. 53 congressional districts. you get three delegates for every one you win. so many districts, it's like new york. very blue democratic districts where it's a total wild card in terms of who is going to be out there. let me start with this. donald trump, he got the big win in new york. it's his home state. looks like a big week shaping up
for him next tuesday. then you go to indiana. you are penciling indiana for him. do you think if he puts that's string of wins together, new york, the northeast, indiana and does start to show a different side of himself like his campaign is trying to talk about, more mature, more presidential, do you think the race changes in a way where when you get to california, republicans are, okay, we're ready to nominate this guy? >> i've lived here 25 years. i'm not never trump. i'm not endorsing anyone, but i've been following the race closely. ted cruz has organized those congressional districts. the 34th congressional district. about 20,000 republicans voted in the presidential race in 2012. maybe 8,000 republicans will vote in that june 7th. ted cruz is all over it. i think the pennsylvania delegates are all high-profile pro ted cruz people.
even though donald trump was very good on the town hall, very exceptional. ivanka and the boys were exceptional. in the middle he said he wants to change the republican party platform on the life issue and immediately twitter lit up with people who matter in indiana, a very pro-life state. they are very upset with that statement that he wants to change the pro-life platform in the republican party. so he remains very charismatic and dominating figure. the front-runner by far, but prone to missteps on issues unfamiliar and people haven't been in the pro-life movement. therefore, i just don't think any realistic -- it's possible he might get to 1,237. realistically, i wouldn't bet a g dollar on it. i think we go to a second ballot. >> hugh hewitt, thanks for joining us from the west coast. >> thank you, steve.
we've been talking a lot about pennsylvania. that's one of those states that's going to be key to that question of 1,237. and the really interesting thing about pennsylvania is the unbound delegates. free agent delegates. they can vote for whoever they want at the national convention. and pennsylvania is going to send 54 unbound delegates. they are spread out among that state's congressional districts. they'll be elected in that primary next week. when you get to cleveland, they aren't locked into anything. they can show up and vote for whoever they want to. that's a big chunk of free agent delegates. who better to send to pennsylvania than msnbc's delegate hunter jacob soboroff. i guess you have a group of those potential -- they have to get elected in this primary next week but a group of potential unbound delegates with you there. >> i am in delegate hunting
heaven, steve. we're in andy's diner in a suburb right outside of philadelphia in the philadelphia area. what's happening here, why all these delegates are here at this location today is there's a radio broadcast going on. this is dom giordano live on the air talking to three of the unbound delegates. they just wrapped it up for 1210 a.m. there's delegates all over the place. i am not kidding. i'm in delegate hunting heaven. this is mary wurt and bob wurt. and get this. they are a married couple competing against each other for delegates. let me ask you straight up, are you committed, and who are you committed for? >> we're both committed for ted cruz. >> why ted cruz? >> our interests and how we feel about policy issues just seem to coincide with what ted cruz is hoping to achieve for this country. and that's the way we're going to go. >> have you signed a declaration telling ted cruz when you get
there you're going to definitely go for him. >> we don't have to, but we chose to. we agree with what ted cruz has to say. that's why we're lined up for him. >> do you feel some sort of extra power here because you have this role that it's outsized. over 20 million republican voters have come to the polls to vote in the primary. in reality, here in the state of pennsylvania, the popular vote only goes for 17 delegates. you have so much power compared to the average voter here, right? >> i don't feel that way. i'll just an average american trying to do my duty for my country. >> are you never trumpers? >> i am not a never anything. >> but you're leaning cruz? >> we're leaning cruz. >> mary and bob. married couple competing to be delegates to the republican national convention in july. delegates all over the place. i'm going to send it back to you in new york. >> i've seen, i think it was the pittsburgh tribune review
newspaper out there did this interesting survey of all the people running for these unbound slots. they lot of them are not saying what they are saying. a lot of them are saying i'm going to go with whatever the voters say in this primary. if trump wins the state big or their district big that's who they're going to be with. >> that's right. you sent me that article. i printed out every delegate on that list. one of the guys in here, if you give me ten seconds. this gentleman is larry stoler who has said he's going to go with that strategy. whatever the voters say in his district, he's going to do. we'll talk to him later on the day. >> jacob soboroff, that is the place to be at andy's diner in philadelphia. we'll be seeing you throughout the day. coming up in our show, senator amy klobuchar is going to join me. could she be part of the first all-female presidential ticket in american history. some buzz about that today. why do so many businesses
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she should not be allowed to run for president. what she's done is terrible. and, frankly, just to say it one more time, so many people for doing so far less, whether it's general petraeus or others, they've suffered dearly for doing just a small fraction of what she did. and it looks to me like she's being protected. like they're going to let her run and frankly in a certain way i'm happy about it because we're going to beat her so badly. >> that was donald trump last night using attack lines we're likely to hear a lot more as he and hillary clinton close in on their party's nominations. i'm joined by a supporter of hillary clinton, minnesota democratic senator amy
klobuchar. thanks for joining us. >> thanks, steve. >> we've talked about the state of the republican race. trump's path there. on the democratic side, the math on this is more straight forward. we had bernie sanders campaign manager with us the other night. >> i saw it. >> trying to look for a scenario where he catches her and it is hard to see. as a clinton supporter, what do you want to see happen with bernie sanders. do you want to see him out now? >> it's very clear that decision is up to bernie's and he's run an extraordinary campaign, gotten so many people involved. i think he's said from the beginning he's going to continue on and i think that everyone expects that. and i think you see such a different tone in the democratic race. yeah, there were some back and forth when they were in new york. but overall, it's been an incredibly positive race with people having some differences of opinion, two front-runners and does it look good for secretary clinton now? yes, it does. she's gotten 10 million votes,
more than any other candidate, republican or democrat and running a strong campaign and is making it clear what she wants to do as president. i think that people are hearing that. >> we also have as hillary clinton may be emerging on the democratic side, some polling numbers from the nbc news wall street journal poll. the positive/negative rating, a donald trump, his numbers terrible on this his hillary clinton clinton's numbers have fallen. our newest poll, a 32% positive, 56% negative rating. i know you can tell me trump's numbers are worse but those aren't that good eerng. what's going on? >> you've seen the negative attacks for her for years most pointedly the last year fro the republican side. what i want to see is a general election. that is going to occur very shortly. and we're going to be able to
see her matched against another candidate. right now the numbers look like it could be trump. matched against someone and then that will be the opportunity to really make the case, not only for her and everything that she's done but also with these incredibly different portraits of where they want to go with the country and building on the progress that president obama has made and her plans. you haven't been able to do that now with all of the noise and the fact that trump has gotten over a billion dollars of free time because every day says something that you guys cover. that's what's been happening and that will be much more equal once we get into a general election. >> also a headline from the boston globe, you may have seen this one, getting a little buzz today, women will be on hillary clinton's vice presidential list and there will come a day that nobody blinks but we still haven't reached a point where a woman has won a presidential nomination from a major party. the idea of having an all female
ticket, do you think that's realistic this year? >> i was pleased that her campaign made it clear that they are going to be looking at everyone. i can tell you there are 14 democratic women in the senate, every one of them would bring something to the ticket. i think it's really healthy she looks at the number of people. ultimately it will be her decision. right now she is focused on pennsylvania and connecticut and rhode island and delaware and maryland and then on to indiana and california. have i forgotten anyone? steve, you're the map guy. she is focused on this endorsement and everything she needs to do to get the delegates to move ahead to the general election. >> let me ask you, if her campaign called and asked, are you interested in maybe being on a ticket. would you say yes? >> i'm not speculating on any of that. i love my job right now. but we have all of of the women in the senate, the democratic women as well as a number of the men would be qualified to be on that ticket as well as governors and others throughout the
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a bit of news in the town hall with savannah guthrie and matt lauer on the "today" show. he said he would change the republican party's platform on theish why of abortion, would add into the platform exceptions for rape, incest and danger to the mother's life, allow abortion and ask the platform allow for abortion in those circumstances. that is something the republican platform for decades hasn't had. they have been anti-abortion in its platform since 1980.
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