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but letting the japanese and south koreans getting nuclear weapons. >> going back to this, this is all intertwine. the decision by the president to not go to syria and to not do what he did and frankly the allies in general, how involved do you get in syria. everybody is going to backseat drive that decision. the problem is if nothing is done about syria, we still have the european migration crisis. it reenforces the idea of it. all of this is connected. you hate to sit here and say, we have to go to court. we have not figured out our relationship with putin and russian's relationship and the middle east. what happens in the middle east has immediate fall out for europe in the terms of actual human tragedy. >> eugene, when we talked about
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this, our cover story, and we'll be asked about that as they walk into the room. this is a very controversial interview because he also criticized the britts on libya. >> david cameron will speak first. >> united kingdom. barack obama has been president for more than seven years. i have been prime minister for nearly six years and our two countries have been wondering together through some of the most difficult and global times. >> we faced after the banking crisis and growth and jobs in our economy and new threats to our security to the rise of the east and global challenges like ebola and claimaimate change. through it all our partnership between our nations have never been more important. 70 years ago last month, winston churchill described the special
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relationship, it is not an expression of friendship, it was as way of working together. it is about two nations awho share the same values. that's been true for barack obama and me whether we are working to deliver economic security, national security or new emerging challenges. today, we have been discussing all three. on economic security, we succeeded in getting our economy growing and creating jobs for our people. the global economy still faces serious challenges but last year britain and the united states was the two fastest growing major economies in the world. we both know just how important trade deals are in driving global growth. barack obama and i remained the most to achieve our mission of the u.s. trade deals. we are working hard to push this forward because it would add billions to our economy and set the standards for the rest of
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the world to follow. national security together with our partners in the eu, we avoid the calamity of an iranian nuclear weapon. we secured the first on climate change being signed today by over 150 governments at the united nation. we transformed the way we use our aid and diplomacy and our military together to make progress on some of the most difficult issues of our time. for example, in east africa, we helped to turn around the prospects for somalia and thanks to an eu operation, led by britt tin and supported by africa.
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wi just as we made important progress in all of these areas so there are many more that need a lot more work. there is no doubt in the situation in libya, it is challenging. we have a government of national accord with who we could work and while in syria and iraq, w are continuing our coalition effor efforts. with the total number of fighters now estimated to be at its lowest for about two years. the iraqis security forces are steadily pushing. this week almost entirely clearing them. and in syria, our partners in the northeast and cut-off the main roots. we discuss migration of crisis. this does not directly affect the united states.
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in the uk, we maintained our borders and we continue to do so. we know this challenge poses to our friends and allies and to the continent of europe. this is the only challenge that could only tackle effectively. nato is helping to rejuvenate the number of migrants and barack obama and i have discussed how nato could not contribute to the eu efforts. we need to do more to break the model of business smugglers. we'll look at more we could do to strengthen our coast guards. barack obama and i would be discussing this further when we meet in italy on monday. this will be another opportunity to show that how working together collectively, we can better protect ourselves from the threats that we face. we've covered a number of new challenges that we work together with our international partners to identify problems and deal
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with them rapidly. just as we have done with ebola, we now need the same international corporation on dealing the zika virus, on cyber security and tackling corruption. british is holding a big anti-corruption here next month where secretary kerry will attend. barack obama and i have told you some of the things we want to achieve. you have to go all around the globe to lobby for help. we would like to see an international anti-corruption coordinating center to work together right across different jurisdictions. all this work we have done together at the same time, i think we got to know each other very well. i am honored to have barack obama as a friend and he taught me the rules of basketball and
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he beaten me at table tennis. i remember the bbq we had at number 10 dining street serving servicemen and women who serves our country here in united kingdom. i find barack obama is one who gives great advice and he's a man with great heart and he will be a great friend to the united kingdom. let me finish by saying this. in all the areas we discussed today, our collective power and reach is amplified by britain's membership of the european union. when it comes to our special relationship between our two countries, there is no greater enthusiastic than me. i am proud to stand here in the white house listening to many man, my friend barack obama of the special relationship between our country has never been stronger. i never felt constrain in any way in strengthening this
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relationship by the fact that we are in the european union. in fact, quite the reverse, we deliver to our people through international groups. we enhanced security but the membership of nato. like those organizations, britain's membership gives us powerful tool to deliver on prosperity and security that our people need and to stand up on the values that our countries have shared. now, it is a time to stay true to those values and stick together with our friends and allies, in europe and around the world. thank you very much. barack obama. >> thank you, david, it is wonderful to be here in london and to be with my good friend, david cameron, i confess, i want to wish the queen, a happy 90th birthday.
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michelle and i had a chance to and the honor join with the magesty. >> i have to say, i have never been driven by a duke before. [ laughter ] >> i can report that it was very smooth riding. [ laughter ] future cast for the majesty, the queen has been a source of inspiration for me and with so many people around the world. she's truly one of my favorite people. should we be fortunate enough to reach 90 may we be as vibrant as she is. she's an astonishing person and a real jewel to the world and not just to the united kingdom. the alliance between the united states and the united kingdom is one of the oldest and one of the
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strongest that the world ever known. when the u.s. and the uk stand together, we make our country secure and prosperous, we make the world better and safer. my visit more than seven years ago was here to london. at a time of global crisis, and the one thing that i knew as green as i was is a new president was that, it was absolutely vital that the united states and the united kingdom working together in an international forum, tackle the challenges that lie ahead. to be able to leverage our relationship to have an impact on our countries. i met with david on that visit, he was not yet prime minister but just as our nation shares a
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special relationship, david and i have shared an extraordinary partnership. he's proven to be a great friend and one of my closest and trusted partners. over the six years or so, our terms have over lapped. we have met or spoken more times than i can count. we share our country's beers together. he vouches for his and i vouches for mine and taking in basketball game in america. david, i think you should recall, we were partners in that ping-pong game. we lost to some school children. [ laughter ] i cannot remember whether they were eight or ten but they were shorted than we were and they whooped us. [ laughter ] >> samantha and michelle are becoming good friends as well. it is the depth and the breath of that special relationship that has helped tackled some of
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the most daunting challenges around our time. around the world, our joint efforts stopping the outbreak of ebola and helped iran from obtaining a nuclear weapon, and the climate agreement in paris hopefully will help to protect our planet for future generations. today on earth day, our government and along with 170 others in new york to sign that agreement, the u.s. is committed to formally joining it this year which has helped and take effects years earlier than anybody expected. we discussed the full array of challenges. we continue the progress we made enrolling back in defeating isil. our forces as david mentioned is systemically degrading isis' finances and save havens and
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removing from the battlefield. we got to keep on working and improving our relationships across europe. we discussed our efforts to resolve political congress to the middele east and syria and yem yemen. in syria, as challenging as it is, we still need to see more progress towards an enduring cease-fire and we continue to push for great humanitarian access to the people who need it most. we have to continue to invest in nato so we can meet our over seas commitment from afghanistan to the gym. all nato allies should aim for the nato target of spending their 2% gdp on defense.
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something that david has made sure to happen here in the uk to meet that standard. we discussed new actions that we can take addressing the refugee crisis including our nato allies. of strong defense, we rely on more than just military spending but helping to unleash the potential of others living a free and prosperous lives. i want to thank the united kingdom. we talked about promoting jobs and stronger growth through increased transit and trade investments so our young people can achieve greater opportunities and prosperity. yes, the prime minister and i discussed on the referendum on whether or not the union remained. let me be clear, this is something that the british voters have to decide for themselves, but as part of our
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special relationship, part of being friends, is to be honest and to let you know what i think. and speaking honestly, it affects our prospect as well. the united states wants a strong united kingdom as partner. and the united kingdom is at its best when it is helping to lead a strong europe. it leverages, uk power to be part of the european union. as i wrote today, i don't believe eu moderates influence in the world, it magnifies us. eu helps us to spread british values and the single market brings extraordinary economic benefit to the yuunited kingdom. that ends up being good for
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america. we are more prosperous when one of our best friends or allies have a strong, stable growing economy. americans want britain influence to grow including within europe. the fact is in today's world, no nation is immuned to the challenges that david and i just discussed. in today's world solving them requires a collective action. all of our cherish our sovereignty. my country is pretty vocal about that. the u.s. also recognizes that we strengthen our security and our relationships through nato. i believe the uk strengthens our security and prosperity in the eu. the nation that made their nations felt on the world's stage are not the nations that go alone. the nations team up and multiple
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their influence. we want to make sure that influence is heard. that it is felt. that it influences other countries to think about critical issues. we have confidence that when the uk is involved in a problem, they're going to help solve it in the right way. that's why the united states cares about this. for centuries, europe was marked by war and by violence. the architectures of our two countries helped build with the eu has provided foundations for decades of peace and prosperity in that continent. what a remarkable legacy.
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a legacy that's born in part of what took place in this building. before i walked out, i happened to see enigma on display. and, that was a reminder of the incredible innovation and cl collaboration of the allies of world war ii and the fact that neither of us could have won that alone. in the same way after world war ii, we built out the international institutions that yes, occasionally constrain us. we willingly allow those constraints because we understood that by doing so, we are able to institutionalize,
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freedom and democracy that would benefit our citizens as well as people around the world. yeah -- i think there is a british poet who says no man is an island, even an island is as beautiful as this. we are stronger together. if we continue to tackle our challenges together, then future generations will look back on ours just as we look back on the previous generations english and american citizens who worked so hard to make this world safer and more secure and prosperous and they'll say we did our part. that's important not just here. that's important in the united states as well. thanks. >> thank you very much. we got some questions we'll start with the question from the
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british press. >> thank you very much prime minister, i am from itv news. mr. president, you yourself acknowledged the controversial timing of your comments on the referendum and of the debate that we have here. the week before your arrival here leaves campaign saying that you are acting hypocritically. america would not accept and we would have to accept from the eu. therefore in various degrees of politeness, they they said to you that you should keep your views to yourself. with that in mind, mr. president, do you think it is the right decision to intervene in this debate and can i ask you this, what happens if the uk does decide in june to leave
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european union. >> first of all, let me repeat. this is the decision for the people of the united kingdom to make. i am not coming here to fix any votes and i am not casting a vote myself, i am offering my opinion, and in democracies, everybody should want more information and not less. you should not be afraid to hear an argument being made. that's not a threat. that should enhance the debate. particularly because my understanding that some of the folks on the other side have been ascribing to the united states and certain actions will take in the uk does leave. they say, for example, well, just cut our own trade deals with the united states so they're voicing an opinion about
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what the united states is going to do. i figure that you might want to hear from the president of the united states what i think the united states is going to do. on that matter, i think it is fair to say maybe some point down the line there might be a uk, u.s. trade agreement, it is not going to happen any time soon because our focuses in negotiating of the big block to get a trade agreement done. uk is going to be in the back of the cube. not because we don't have a special relationship but beca e because -- given the heavy lift on any trade agreement, us having access to a big market, with a lot of countries rather than trying to do peace meal trade agreements, is hugely in
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efficient. the subject at hands and the united states in a different hemisphere, different circumstances, and has different sets of relationships with its neighbors than the uk does. i can tell you this, if right now i have got access to a massive market where i sell 44% of my exports, and now i am thinking about leaving the organization that gives me access to that market and that's po responsible for millions of jobs in my country and responsible for an enormous amount of commerce, upon which a lot of businesses depend on, that's not something i would probably do.
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what i am trying to describe is a broader principle in our own way. we don't have a common market in america, but in all sorts of way the united states constrain itself in order to bind every one under a common set of norms and rules that make everybody more prosperous. that's what we built after world war ii. the united states and the uk designed a set of institutions. whether it is world bank or inf, nato, across the board, -- now, that to some degree constrain
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our freedom to operate and meant that occasionally we had to deal with some bureaucracies and it meant that on occasion we have to persuade other countries and we don't get 100% of what we want in each case but we new by doing so, everybody was going to be better off. partly because the norms and rules that we put in place were reflecti reflective of what we believe. if there were more free markets around the world and an orderly financial system, we knew we can operate it well. if we had collective defense treaty through nato, we u understood we could formalize an architecture that would detour rather than us having peace
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meals put together alliances to defeat aggression after it already started. and, that principle is what is at stake here. the last point i will make on this until i get the next question, i suspect, is that as david said -- this magnifies the power of the uk. it does not diminish. on just about every issue what happens in europe is going to have an impact here. and what happens in europe is going to have an impact in the united states, we just discuss ex for examp, for example, of the refugees crisis, i told my team here that we considered a major national security issue that you have uncontrollable migration into
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europe. not because the folks are coming to the united states but because if it destabilizes europe, our largest trading block, trading partner, it is going to be bad for our economy. if you start seeing divisions in europe that weakens nato, that'll have an impact on our collective security. now, if in fact i want somebody smart and common sense and tough and is thinking as i do in the conversations of how migration is going to be handled, somebody who also has a sense of compassion and recognizes that immigrations can enhanced when done properly of the assets of the country and not just
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diminish them. i want david cameron in the conversation. just as i want him in the conversation as we discuss on information and counter terrorism activities. i have confidence in the uk and i know that if we are not working effectively with paris or brussels then those attacks are going to migrate to the united states and london, i want one of my strongest partners in that conversation. so it enhances the special relationship, it does no t diminish it. >> let's me make one point in response to that. this is our choice. nobody else s. this is our choice. as we make the choice, we listen to what our friends think and listen to their views. that's what barack obama is talking about today.
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it is a british's choice about the british's membership of the european union. we are not being asked to make a choice whether we support the german style membership. britain has a special state in the european union. we are in the single market. we are not apart of the currency. we are able to live and work and maintaining our borders. we are not in the no border zone. on this vital issue of trade where barack obama has made cle clear, states, should remember why we are currently negotiating this biggest deal in the whole world between the british union and the united states. we set the agenda for what could
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be an absolutely game changing trade deals for jobs and investments because we are part of this organization. i think we have a u.s. question now. >> just a second. >> thanks mr. president, following on that, do you think between the migration issue, unity of the crisis point, what do you hope leaders gathering in jeremy can ge germany can do about it. do you expect the possibility of ground troops of the new government in libya to keep that from further straining in europe. maybe you can talk about whether you plan to go to horoshino when you visit japan. >> come on man. >> the president is coming here to tell the uk as a friend and speaking honestly, they should stay in the eu. as a friend, what would you
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advise american voters to do about donald trump, thanks? >> that was so predictable. >> i will pick up that last one. [ laughter ] >> i would not describe european unity in a crisis but i would say it is under strengths. some of that has to do with the after math of the financial crisis and the strengths that we are all aware of with respect to euro zones, the uk is not part of the euro zone and so the blow back to the british economy has been different than it is on the continent. but, we have seen some divisions and difficulties between the southern and northern parts of
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europe, that created some strengths. i think the migration crisis amplifies a debate that's taken place, not just in europe but in the united states as well. at a time of globalization, at a time when a lot of challenges that we face are trans-national as poopposed to one country, the is a temptation to want to pull up a drawbridge. we see that played out in some of the debates taken place in the u.s. presidential race. and, that debate, i think is accelerated in europe. but, i am confident that the ties that bind europe together
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are ultimately much stronger than the forces that are trying to pull them apart. europe has under gone an extraordinary stretch of prosperi prosperity. maybe unmatched in the history of the world. if you think about the 20th century and you think of the 21st century. 21st century, europe looks a lot better and majority of europeans recognized that. they see that unity and peace have delivered, sustained economic growth and reduced conflicts and violence and enhanced the quality of life of people. i am confident that could continue but i do believe that it is important to watch out for
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some of these fault lines that are developing. in that sense, i do think the braxt braxton's votes. if i am a citizen of the uk, i am thinking of in terms of how is this helping me and the uk economy and how is it helping create jobs here in the uk. that's the right way to think about. i do also think that this vote will send a signal that is relevant about whether the kind of prosperity that we built together is going to continue, or whether the forces of division and up being more prominent. that's why -- that's part of the reasons why it is relevant to the united states and why i have had the opportunity to weigh in on it.
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what were your four other questions? i got to figure out i knocked out two through that answer. >> with respect to libya, both david and i discussed our commitment to try to assist this naso government. it is a challenge but there are people in this government of national accord that are genuinely committed in building and backup a state. that's something that we december freig desperately want because both the united states and the united kingdom but a number of other allies are more than prepared to invest and helping create borders security in libya and help to drive out terrorists inside libya and trying to make sure that what could be a thriving society, relatively a smaller population, a lot of
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resources, it is not an issue where we have to subsidize libya. if they can just get their act together, we want to help provide that technical assistant to get it done. there is no plans for ground troops in libya, that's not necessary. i don't think it will be welcome by the government. it would send the wrong signals. it is a matter of can we come together? what we can do is providing them training and provide them a road map for how they could get basic services to their citizens and build up legitimacy. but, i do think that the one area where both david and i are heavily committed is as this progresses, we cannot wait if isil is starting to get a foothold there.
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we are working not just libyan government but a lot of our national partners to make sure we are getting the intelligence that we need and in some cases taking actions to prevent isil from having another stronghold from lunchi from launching an attack. you have to wait until i get to asia to start asking me asia questions. >> the question is, this is not a general election. this is a referendum. as barack obama has explained, this referendum affects the people of the united kingdom deeply. it does affect others in in union and australiaia and new
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zealand. i have not found a country that wishes us well. again, it is our choice, we'll make the decision and we'll listen to all the arguments. people want the fact and consequences. i will lay it out as clearly as i can. listening to our friends and countries that wishes us well is part of the process. as for the american elections, i have made some comments in recent weeks and months. i didn't think now is a moment to add to them or subtract to them. i think just as a prime minister, looking at the scale of the process and the length of the process and anyone that's left standing at the end of it. >> fortunately, we are term limited. >> i, too, can look.
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[ laughter ] >> i can, too, can look at the process. >> we have another question from msnbc. >> mr. president, you made your views very plain where british voters should choose to state in the eu. are you also saying that our decades' old special relationship been through so much that would be fundamentally damaged and changed. if so, how? do you have any sympathy with people who thinks this is none of your business and prime minister to you, some of your colleagues believed that it is wrong that you dragged our closest allies into the referendum campaign. what do you say to them and is it appropriate for the mayor london -- >> well, let me go first.
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first of all, questions from boris. i don't have some special power of the president of the united states. barack obama feels strongly about it as he says what he says. it is a hard decision as sol sovereign people of the choice we make about europe and it is right to listen and consider the advice of your friend. just to emphasize one of the points barack obama made, we have a shared interest in making sure of russian aggression. if you take the issue of the sanctions that we put in place through the european union, i think that i could put my hands in my hat that says britain plays an important role and continues to play an important role in making sure those sanctions were put in place and kept in place. i am not sure if it were to
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happen if we were not there. if it is in our interest and it is if your interest for europe to be strong against aggression, how could it be an interest not to be at that table and to see those sanctions not take place. i think it is been working between britain and the united states over this issue that has helped make a big difference. i would say about the special relationship and to me, impassii am passionate about this and for our future of the country. the truth is this, the stronger britain is and the stronger america is, the stronger that relationship will be. i want britain to be as strong as possible. we draw our strengths from all sort of things from the country. amazing arm forces and brilliant security and intelligent forces that we were discussing of how well they work together and
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incredibly talented people. the fact that we are a member of nato and g-7 and the commonwealth, we also draw strengths and project power and values and protect our people and make our country wealthier by being in the european union. i want britain to be as strong as possible. the stronger britain is the stronger that special relationship is and the more we can get done together to make sure we have a world that promotes world peace and human rights and the developments that we want to see across the world. to me, is simple. stronger britain, that's in our interest and that's in the interest of united states america as well. >> let me start with winston churchill. you know, i don't know if people are aware of this. in the resident on the second floor my office, my private
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office, it is called t-- right the door, so that i see it everyday, including on weeks when i am going into that office to watch a basketball game, the primary image that i see is a bus of winston churchill. it is there voluntarily because i can do anything on the second floor. i love winston church, i love the guy. now, when i was elected as president of the united states, my predecessor has kept a church of bus in the oval office. there is so many table you can
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put it, other, wise, it startso look clutter. as the first african-american president, it maybe appropriate to have a bus of doctor martin luther king in my office to remind me of all the hard work of a lot of people, who would somehow allow me to have the privilege of holding this office. that's just on winston churchill. i think many people should know that -- know my thinking there. with respect to the special relationship, i have a staff member who'll not be named because it may embarrass her a
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little bit, who on foreign trips does not leave the hotel or the staff room because she's constantly doing work making this happen. she has had one request the entire time that i have been president. that is could she accompany me to windsor on the off chance that she might get a peek at her majesty, the queen. and, gracious as she is, her majesty actually has this person along with a couple of others so as we merge for lunch, they could say hello. and, this staff person who's as tough as they come, almost fainted. i am glad she did not because it would have cause an incident.
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that's the special relationship. we are so bound together that nothing is going to impact the emotional affinity between the two country. i don't come here impacting by the decision of the people of the united kingdom they make around whether they are a member of the union. cooperations in all sort of ways, all those things will continue. but, as david said, if one of
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our best friends in an organization that enhances their influence and power and enhances their power and economy, i want them to stay in it. this helps our economy and helps to create jobs. so ultimately it is your decision but precisely because we are bounded. i want you to know that before you make your decision. margaret brenna. >> thank you very much. vladimir putin has not stopped as he led you to believe that he would. will you continue to battle on what looks to be a losing strategy, mr. prime minister,
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the uk today warned citizens traveling to north carolina and mississippi about laws there that affects transgenders and individuals, as a friend, what do you think of those laws? mr. president, would you like to weigh in that. indulge us back in the u.s., prince passed away, could you tell us what made you a fan? >> i am trying to figure out in which order to do this. maybe i will start with north carolina and mississippi, i want everybody here in the united kingdom know that people of north carolina and mississippi, they are wonderful people and beautiful states and you are welcome. you should come and enjoy yourself. i think you will be treated with
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extraordinary hospitality. i also think that the laws that have been passed there are wrong and should be over turned and nair response they're in response to politics in part and some strong emotions that are generated by people. some of whom are good people but i just disagree with when it comes to respecting the equal rights of all people regardless of sexual orientation whether transgender or gay or lesbian. although i respect their different viewpoints, i think it is important for us not to send signals that anybody is treated differently. i think it is fair to say that we are not uniquely among countries where particularly under a federal system in which
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powers dispersed, there is going to be some localities and officials putting forward laws that are not necessarily reflecking reflec reflecking of a national consens consensus. if you come to north carolina or mississippi, everybody will be treated well. with respect to syria, i am concerned of the hostilities framed and whether it is sustainable. now, keep in mind that i have always been skeptical about mr. putin's action and motive inside syria. he's along with iran, the backer of a murderous regime that i do not believe could regain legitimacy within his country because he murdered a lot of people. having said that, what i also
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believe is that we cannot end the crisis in syria without political negotiations and without getting all the parties around the table to craft a transition plan that by necessity means that there will be some people on one side of the table who i deeply disagree with and whose actions i deeply disagree with. it is held longer than i expected and for seven weeks we have seen a significant reduction in violence inside that country. that gave some relief to people.
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i talked to putin on monday precisely to reenforce to him the importance to maintaining the sensation of hostility, asking h i am to put more pressure on our side indicating that we'll continue to get the moderate opposition to stay at the negotiating table in geneva. but, this is always been hard. it is going to keep on being hard. what david and i discussed in our meetings that we'll continue prosecute the war against dash and isil. we are going to continue to support those who prepares to fight isil. we'll continue to target them and we'll continue to make progress but we are not going to solve the overall problem unless we can get this political track mcadooing.
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moving. we have looked at all options, none of them are great. we are going to play this option out. if it falls apart, we'll try to put it back together again even as we continue to go after isil. it is in my belief, it is my belief ultimately that russia will recognize that just as this cannot be solved by a military victory on this part of those we support, russia maybe able to keep the lid on alongside iran for a while but if you don't have a legitimate government there, they will be bled as well. and, is not speculation on my part. i think -- the evidence all points in that direction. >> finally, with respect to
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prince, i love prince because he put out great music and he was a great performer. i didn't know him well. he came to perform at the white house last year and was extraordinary, creative and original. and, full of energy it . this morning we played "purple rain," just to warm up. >> great music, he brought a lot of brilliant talents. >> let me say, i have been to north carolina many years ago and enjoyed it.
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i have not made it to mississippi but one day i hope to. the guidance that we put out on foreign office gives advices on travel and deals with laws and situations as they are and trying to give that advice partially but it is important that it does so. something that a lot of attention is given to. a view on any of these things is that we believe we should be trying to use more to end discrimination rather to embed it or enhance it. that's something we are comfortable saying to countries and friends around the world. >> we make our views by the importance of trying to end discrimination. with that, thank you very much. >> thank you very much everybody. [ applause ] >> after a news conference,
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president obama and david cameron speaking about the controversy in london over the president weighing in on whether or not the britts should leave the eu with the referendum pending on june 23rd but also what prince meant to him. back with me here is moderator, meet the press, chuck todd and eugene robertson, and nbc kerr simmons in london. kier, if i can go to you. if the uk leaves the eu, britain would be at the end of the line when the u.s. has to make trade deals with europe because we would make deals with the larger market and not with the solo britts. >> yeah, anyone who thought the president is going to walk out and tremendo
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and retreat by his opportunities. that comment by president obama, britain will be in the back of the line by trade deals. just to give awe sense of the control controversy and the details people will be picking over. people are talking over of the word "cue" that people will be in the back of the cue. it maybe he's simply using a british word because he was in britain. by the way, a really interested question to the prime minister. how would you advise u.s. voting voting to donald trump. this is a referendum. it gives you a sense of how emotional some folks are here. >> it maybe that many people won't like it but they'll listen. >> and to ron allen there
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traveling with the president. this president gave such a vigorous defense of multi lateralism of being part of the world and in contrast of what bernie sanders and donald trump are saying here. >> they were personal and they were frank. he said back at the cue, i think on purpose, he talked about the bus of churchill on the second floor outside of his second office and the bus of martin luther king. he talked about his age who wants to be in the presence of the queen. he talked about the queen being an astonishing figure. it seems from the heart that he believe that is we live in a world now where we are united. he talked about the united states to some extent giving up some of its sovereignty belonging to certain
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organizations like the world ba bank, nato and others. this is how president obama sees the world. people watching this will see a very genuine performance and genuine expression of what he thinks the future of this country and the world should look like. he may sway some minds and he may not. it will be dres intereinteresti the push back from those who wants to leave the eu, it is a compelling case. britain will be in the back of the cue and millions of dollars and jobs and millions of dollars of income. it was a practical argument and a passionate argument. yes, prince, listening to prince before going to a bilateral meeting. he feels strongly by prince. it is a devastating loss and again, we listen to the president a lot.
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i was struck by how personal he was and how personal he tried to be in talking to the british people about this issue and talking to the united states about this issue as well. clearly, he feels that the future of america is tied closely to britain in practical and emotional ways. >> eugene, we have our london bureau chief here at the washington post. >> andrea, the president went all in on his argument that britain should not leave the european unit and the central point he made was about that trade pack. that's one of the main arguments of the braxton campaign. oh, well, we are just in it and we don't have the eu trade agreement with the united states. we'll negotiate with our own trade pack and everything will be fine. the president clearly says that's not happening so get over that. it is not going to happen. i think that actually will

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