sit down with republicans and negotiate in good faith. he was wrong. republicans had no intention of negotiating in good faith. what they wanted to do was obstruct, obstruct, obstruct in an unprecedented way and it took the president a number of years to learn that lesson. he knows it now, and that's why his executive orders are flying out. i have learned that lesson. i will know that when i get into the oval office. >> do you predict whoever the democratic president, should there be a democratic president elected in january of next year, do you believe they will be met with functionally that same attitude? >> yes. i think the republican party, as i mentioned, a moment ago has moved very, very far to the right. of usually, they are beholding the wealthy corporate interests but they are now also beholding to an extreme right wing base, you know, people who are active in the horrific, you know, trump effort on the birther movement.