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to join the wednesday night league. because he loves to play hoops. not jump through them. that's the excitement of rewarding connections. apply online or at a bank of america near you. after a great deal of consideration and prayer, i have come to the conclusion that if i am nominated to be president of the united states that i will run on a ticket with my vice presidential nominee carly fiorina.
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>> yes, ted cruz has found a n run -- ming mate. >> i have decided that if i am asked -- to ever walk -- on mars -- i want willie geist to be in the capsule -- as i take those first great steps for mankind. [ applause ] >> that's an honor. >> running lines like ted cruz. >> it's unbelievable. >> it's the pause. >> what is that? come on, somebody has to be around him to tell him to stop that. that ain't how people talk. it's just weird.
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i need to get you some new "morning joe" swag. >> you don't like this one? >> i like that one. i should have stitched 2015 in there. >> vintage. >> you have seen the 2016 model. it's one that i wore for like four months straight. >> i get it the night before. lint brush. >> are you saying donnie's mike is not working? that was intense. >> good morning, it's friday, april 29th. mika has the morning off. but we have the managing editor of bloomberg politics. and changes lives across the globe every night. it's like an hour of power. there is that moment at the end where they take prayer requests.
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i cry. >> and all the people said -- amen. mark halperin. we also have those from weekends with alex witt. and donnie is with us. and senior political editor and white house correspondent for "the huffington post" sam stein. that is a motley crew. >> someone has to add a little estrogen. chaos erupted in california outside of donald trump's first campaign rally. demonstrators blocked traffic to them swarming cars and at one point busting a police cruiser's windows with one man stomping on it. protesters forced police to close streets. others threw bricks. the smell of burnt rubber reportedly because of what's
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happening right there. that's a car spinning out in the middle of an intersection. they are doing a donut. police say 20 people were arrested and reported no major injuries in which was the first violence since the chicago rally. this footage of a trump supporter talking to medical personnel. reporters witnessed a confrontation there. >> mark halperin, the violence was outside the rally. going to be hard for the media to spin this one as donald trump's problem. that was something they loved to talk about a week ago. i dare say that that degree of violence only helps a candidate that they are trying to hurt. >> well, and it also lays to bear what could be months of a huge debate in this country over donald trump and his legitimacy and his appeal.
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california has never seen what we're about to see. it's going to be a lot of political activity in this state. a state that size, there are a lot of people who do a lot of things. >> put that image up with the guy in the bandages. this is what they are trying to do to us. this is a trump supporter and they are trying to keep us down. >> you're right, donnie. all of this, the rage, the anger, the violence outside the rally, the stomping on police cars, all of that plays right into his hands. >> everything that's happening is playing into his hands. carly fiorina, a stunt. the big between kasich and cruz. everything says you want to take this election away from us. they are rigging it. it's the system. it's everything that's done now, even if it's just political water, plays into his hands. >> they are taking our country away from us. just like my parents said in 1968 when there was violence at
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the chicago -- my participants were born democrats and voted democratic their entire u life. not like republicans. that started to change in 1968 with all the riots and the protests and seemed like us against them. it was john wayne versus jane fonda and there was no middle ground politically. >> last week i said i think he's going to win. this was before last tuesday. the amount of people in the last four or five days that are coming around, not that he's getting the nomination, but that he's going to win. >> you mean the republican nomination. >> no, i mean the presidency. in the last four or five days, i hear more people, different types. >> really? what do they say? >> my mother, no. >> i hear the nomination. >> i'm starting to hear just from a range of people moth
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mother-in-law type research. there's no statistical relevance to it. >> what are you doing with your fingers. stop that. you're making us uncomfortable. >> trump is in california again today. watch to see the reaction he gets. >> so that's all the outside stuff, as joe says. let's talk about what was happening inside. the 18,000 people at the orange county fairgrounds were largely unaware of all that violence unfolding outside. at one point, trump called on to stage the families of victims of violence committed i undocumented immigrants and turned the mike over to someone whose son was killed. >> we demand americaen first. we don't care about illegal alie aliens. americans first. first means first. >> jameel just representing the
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group, they all have a similar story to tell. people that shouldn't have been here. people that should have never been allowed to come over the border and they come here like it's nothing. they walk through like it's nothing. and we're going to stop it. we're dpoigoing to build a wall. we can't have this. we don't have a country anymore. i'm looking at statistics where your crime numbers are so crazy. they have gone through the roof. we can't have it anymore. i don't know how they take it. these are great, unbelievable people. we have to stop it. >> this is out of a book. this is out of a manual. no state in america has suffered worse from open borders than the state of california. its impact on jobs, wages, security, schools, hospitals has been devastating. e we know that. >> so suggesting there's going to be a soft turn towards the general election towards
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positions that might actually help donald trump with his pan. ices in the general election. we're not seeing it. not late in the a campaign. >> he's going full "law and order." he's going to back almost the bob knight thing. those were the good old days when america made sense. so what he's doing in california is not pivoting to the general election, but he realizes the establishment and people in washington are turning toward donald trump now. there's no denying it. two more endorse mements in congress. two heads of veterans affairs. these are serious people. bob corker. >> bob corker f there's one thing that indicated a massive change of opinion inside washington it was bob corker, who is not a tea party guy. he's been seen as one of the more moderate as far as working across the aisle republican leaders there.
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>> yeah, when he came out the other day about that foreign policy speech that there were some interesting contours to it. but he's get iting support from people that are to be taken seriously. >> the corker thing was interesting coming basically a few hours after trump's foreign policy speech. it gave it a sign of significance, of seriousness, an endorsement. i would say it wasn't the most full throated endorsement, but corker is a person of substance. >> you always have to do that, sam. >> let me pick up with the finger things. >> don't talk about texture. >>. >> the party is resigning itself to him being the nominee. and two, trump's playing what i would say the playbook that nixon did. he references the majority all the time. he goes out there and says there's lawlessness.
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i need to bring law and order to you. the country is being taken away. but there are factual problems here. border crossings that he referenced in that speech. they are at an all-time low. crime in america, it's not like the '70s. we're not witnessing an epidemic of crime in american cities like we were back then. >> everything he's done is right brain. i want to pick up on his speech. >> but facts do matter. >> there's a lot of talk about the substance. there's a cautionary tale for him. that was the first time e we saw him reading. it was different. the thing that makes him work, and i do a lot of things terribly. one thing i do well is a lot of public speeches. i like by point. i can't read off a prompter. his connection with the audience because he's not reading is so real and so present. i found a very different in him trying to be presidential and
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read a very different donald trump. and he's got to balance. you have to read stuff. and i for the first time when he speaks i lean in. during that speech, i was leaning back. that's something he's going to have to juggle as he gets deeper into policy and more speeches because he was not being trump. >> he wasn't -- >> i'm not talking about substance. >> i picked that up in the foreign policy speech. >> i'm sorry, the other day. >> the foreign policy speech i u pick ued it up there. the thing that everybody learned from that speech or should have learned if you're inside the trump organization is he can do that if he has big cheering crowds like that. george w. bush in a crowd or one-on-one, greatest, funniest,
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most likable guy. get him in the east room in a formal press conference and it's painful. so you play to the strengths. so explain something to me. i'm sure all trump's guys understand he's going to get the 1237, right? they also understand he can't win the general election without 35% of hispanics voting for him. this seems awfully late in the calendar to be doing things that made sense in january. can he win? there are not, i have been saying all along and i may be wrong, but there are not enough white voters in america for donald trump to win while get ing routed by minorities. >> there's a lot in that question. first of all, trump is always
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going to say what he believes on issues luk immigration. what he said last night he believes. and he believes he can rally a lot of people. he still needs to do well in the california primary to go over. for the republican electorate, that's a strong message. if you take what trump has said, trump has been for a position on immigration, which he can start to emphasize, that is close to amnesty. i think he will pivot on immigration to talk about some of the things he mentioned about letting people stay here if they are good people. trump will lose the hispanic vote if he's the nominee. you talk about percentage to get. he can lose california massively. can he target hispanics in north carolina, illinois, new jersey, i think there are other issues he can talk about to win. and he can get more of the white vote than romney did.
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the math here is not as cut and dry as he's not going to do well with the hispanic vote and can't win. state by state and on issues besides immigration. >> do you think he will do better or worse? romney lost 71%. >> i think the national number, if they are able to build a targeting operation, hispanics in california worse as of today. i'm not sure that's going to be the case long-term. that's not what it's about. >> he's never going to win california any way. i'm talking about the general election. >> can he not win it, but can he make clinton play defense there. one of the dynamics in this warfare that we have seen in the conflict is trump can probably put more -- >> can i answer that question on april 28th? he can't make hillary clinton play defense. let me save them a lot of money right now.
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>> i'm not sure that's true. >> what happened from pete wilson on there? it's been a virtual wasteland for republican for the past 20 years. >> and arnold schwarzenegger with rebuilding the state with celebrity. >> did he talk about building a wall? did he bring people on stage and say these are people kill ed by hispanics? >> he had other problematic positions. all i'm saying is watch and see what happens in the next couple days about whether there's a possibility that trump could build a coalition in california. >> do you remember -- i can't remember when this was. maybe 2008 or '09 when he came running in the hall and screaming at me. do you remember that? >> yeah, and apparently john boehner is coopting my words. we'll get right to that. >> that was a rough day.
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>> classic witt. >> i'm going to classic boehner because it's a well known choice words from john boehner. he was talking about ted cruz during a visit to california. boehner said while he would vote for donald trump in a general election, there's no way he will ever vote for cruz. in fact, offered this description of the texas senator. >> lucifer in the flesh. i have never worked with a more miserable person. over my dead body will he be president. >> i know you are itch iing to talk about this. >> here's what happens because of this. cruz sends a fundraising e-mail over the comments after tweeting "tell me again who will stand up to washington." who's boehner's texting and golfing buddy or carly fiorina and me? take a listen to this.
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>> john boehner had some interesting comments last night. he allowed his inner trump to come out. truth of the matter is i don't know the man. i have met john boehner two or three times in my life. if i have said 50 words in my life to john boehner, i would be surprised. every one of them has consisted of pleasantriepleasantries. i have never had a substantiate conversation. during the shutdown, i reached out to john boehner and i offered to come over and work with the speaker. can we resolve this and actually get something meaningful done to stop the disaster that is obamacare? john boehner's response was i have no interest in talking to you. when he calls me lucifer, he's not directing that at me. he's directing that at you. what boehner is angry with is the american people holding him accountable. >> he is directing it at ted
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cruz. >> directly. and giving voice to what a lot of people feel about ted cruz in washington. >> quote, maybe quote of the day yesterday. pete king, our good friend from long island, who we love. actually, that's giving lewucif a bad rap. let's listen. >> i agree with bajohn boehner. maybe he gives lucifer a bad name by comparing him to cruz. what john boehner was most concern ed about is ted cruz perpetrator of fraud some kind of a vague promise to take obamacare out of the budget. ted cruz knew it would never work. but he did it any way. >> isn't she starting to get that weird christie gaze? >> somebody pointed out
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yesterday ted cruz, i don't know the man, he was his attorney in the mid-1990s. >> that was me. the guy was his attorney. how do you only say 50 words to your client? >> maybe they didn't interact. >> this election is crazy. >> we love boehner and the thing that's a funny phrase. but this is about the failure of the stop trump movement. boehner is sinding a signal that cruz is is not the answer. they may not love trump or be excited. >> that's why there's no movement. >> you got to go somewhere if you're going to move. >> you need an amounttive. they have never had an alternative. they have chose an alternative. a man they all hate. and they do. and ted cruz is a wonderful father, wonderful everything. but his political persona from the day he stepped o on to the stage in washington, d.c. irritated the entire city. >> boehner's saying what he said
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rick scott, governor of florida is saying what he said about the stop trump movement is helping hillary clinton. if trump can win indiana, people saying that's it. this is not about ted cruz or kasich. we have to be for donald trump. >> you look at dpt donald trump last night. they are playing completely different games. on this lucifer story. sam stein, "huffington post," always doing the hard work. you interviewed a satanist. >> you got to referee these disputes. >> you didn't have a lot to do yesterday, did you? >> i was really bored. i called up a satanist. >> how do you find those? >> is that in the yellow pages? >> i actually went to a few websites that i'm a little bit freaked out about and spooked a little bit and hoping it doesn't lead to eternal damnation.
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cruz is christianity's problems. >> isn't he going to win where there's this winner's mentality. >> you don't want to jump on the satanist point. is that you moving on? >> jewish folks get scared about a lot of stuff. but indiana, whatever the poll said a few days ago, to me, it's almost a lock when there's voter mentality. it's so complete that i think he's going to win substantially in indiana. >> the private polling has moved in that direction. cruz is just not breaking through with enough voters, yet. we have a couple days to go. >> i want that w. >> it's awfully hard. when you have bobby knight going out there, it is really hard. paul had a great quote yesterday when ted cruz was talking about if they didn't win indiana, it would be a nail in the coffin.
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and paul said, last week pennsylvania was a nail in the coffin. he's in the coffin now. he just doesn't realize it. >> you said the trump people are at the point whether we win indiana or not, they have a clear path at this point. i watched your show yesterday. you're good. the partner not so much. >> it's a buddy picture. >> driving across the country. >> you carry it. >> you're dising heilemann? >> it's like a buddy movie. you can't throw them out of the van. >> he's chris farley and then david spade. >> more tango and cash. >> still ahead on "morning joe," backlash erupts over the plan to have will ferrell play ronald reagan in a comedy about the former president's battle with alzheimer's. we're going to have the reaction
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from the reagan family. also chuck todd previews the make or break vote on tuesday. tom brokaw is here. tim kain also bye-bye here. but first, here's bill karins, i guess it's tim kain e or bill karins. >> it's a tough choice. go the safe choice with me or a little riskier with kain. it's a split. even the middle of the country, going to get one good day and one day your not going to like. yesterday this was a significant event that happened quickly in mississippi and the flooding was widespread around gulf port. we had 10 inches of rain in only a few hours. there was a lot of images with people just trying to get loved ones to safety. the military had to come in and use their big trucks. they had to rescue a lot of people. a state of emergency has been declared. today, we're watching
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thunderstorms already exploding. classic spring storm. severe weather and snow. 24 million people at risk today. little rock, oklahoma city, dallas-fort worth and shreveport. that will mean significant airport delays this afternoon, especially around dallas. how about colorado? it's a snowy month in april. you're going to get the snowstorm today in colorado. denver expecting 4 to 8 inches of snow depending on your elevation. let me take you through the weekend forecast. the rain in texas and oklahoma, it's a rain out in the ohio valley. nice day east coast and then sunday is the rainy day on the east coast. so saturday is your day to get outdoors. but sunday is going to be your indoor door or a movie day with a soaking rain. we leave you with a shot of new york city. should be a cool weekend ahead with a rainy sunday. you're watching "morning joe," we'll be right back. i know how it is. you're all set to book a flight using your airline credit card miles.
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welcome back to "morning joe." controversy over a new film u
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where will ferrell will portray ronald reagan. the story reportedly involves the 40th president. the late president's son said those involved with the film should be ashamed. he tweeted out alzheimer's is not a comedy to the 5 million people suffering with the disease. it first robs you of your mind and kills you. reagan's daughter posted an open letter to ferrell in which she writes, perhaps if it you knew more, you would not find the subject humorous. it steal what is is most precious. memories, connections, the familiar landmarks of a lifetime. i watched as fear invaded my father's eyes, this man who was never afraid of anything. he stood in the living room and said, i don't know where i am. the film is without a director and is being shopped around to studios. the front page of "the new york post" this morning.
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giper flick furry. >> we're huge will ferrell fans. >> love him. >> but this looks like a horrific idea from the start. i can't believe he's not going to try to get away from this thing. >> we don't know much about the movie, but a comedy about alzheimer's. if you put the shoe on the other foot about a democrat who had alzheimer's, i don't think you'd have that movie. >> i have a mom with dementia. it's a horrifying process. and i can't imagine somebody thinks this is within bounds. >> i have a feeling will may rethink this one before it's made. other stories making headline this is morning. the u.s. is blaming the syrian government for a deadly airstrike on a pediatric hospital. 27 people were killed in the attack on the doctors without borders hospital. the u.s. says the hospital was
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targeted. nearby buildings were also shelled. monitors and activists say u 60 people have been killed in aleppo over the past two days, a clear violation of the cease-fire. federal officials arrested three people with ties to one of the san bernardino attackers. farook's brother was taken into custody. his wife and her sister is a sham marriage. the three arrested yesterday were not charged with terror-related offenses. the warrants relate to the questionable marriage between the two. prosecutors say they did not live together and was paying him $200 a month. the marriage allowed her to stay in the country u. all three pled not guilty in court late yesterday. vice president joe biden going to be at the vatican to discuss cancer research at a conference on medicine.
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>> what's great is any time somebody says a big word like that, props. you don't get to see what goes on. we're going to take you to the nfl draft where a player's stock dropped after his twitter account was hacked. did you see this? >> i heard about it. >> reveal iing some images that only donnie could love. >> it's a story about our age. and more from the cruz campaign trail. >> it is hotter than hell out there. >> new reporting on what the stop trump movement such that it is, has planned next. "morning joe" is coming right back.
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2016 nfl draft, the los angeles rams select jared goff, quarterback, california. >> as expected the l.a. rams -- doesn't that sound great? it's beautiful. >> jared goff, kid out of cal. they traded two picks to the titan s s to move up to number and got jared goff.
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also no surprise the eagles took the other big quarterback north dakota state's carson wentz at number two. he's followed by ohio state defensive end joey bosa at number three. another buckeye running back ezekiel elliot goes to the cowboys at number four. florida state corner jalen ramsey goes to the jaguars. ohio state had five players selected in the top 20. just the second school in history to do that. as for elliot, turning some heads on the red carpet with the donnie collection. during the season, he wears a crop top jersey so you can see his six pack. he did a little play on that on the red carpet. >> i endorse that. he trademarked the crop top shirts. i think we'll be seeing more of that. every time goodell came out,
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they booed. >> his philosophy of life comes from producers. if you got it, flaunt it. >> it's more of an ageist thing. us older gentleman are cast in a light. >> round one of the draft, this was amaze iing. >> a little drama last night. ole miz left tackle laremy tunsil, some thought he could have been the number one. he fell to number 13. why? maybe because of this. was a a video was posted to his twitter account just ten minutes before the start of the draft showing tunsil smoking a bong into a gas mask. when asked about the video -- >> we need to go to sam stein on this one because he can tell us what's going on in this picture. >> tunsil said his account was hacked. he didn't posted video. it probably cost him a $1 million. moments after his selection, the person behind his instagram account posted screen the shos
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of text messages showing tunsil asking staffers for money to pay bills. tunsil admitted his mistake when asked if he took money from a coach, i'd have to say yeah. tough day for the young man. >> he's saying somebody had had his password and was trying to screw him. >> he has a pissed off ex-girlfriend. >> we don't know if there's a connection, but his stepfather just filed a huge lawsuit. there might be something going on there. >> what was that image? what was that tool he had? >> what is that, sam? >> that's a gas mask bong. >> what's a bong? >> jeez, come on. >> you used to take quaaludes. >> let me make a broader point here. this is important. this guy smoked a little weed. >> it looks like he smoked a lot
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of weed. >> are we going to punish him? we don't punish people for taking painkillers. >> it's clear before the draft that kid is a pro. the man knows what he's doing. >> have you ever seen the gas mask in person? it's a sight to be hold. >> i don't believe in mild ha lieu sin jenices. >> one of the main lines is not a true conservative. we'll explain why that punch may not be landing as hard as cruz had hoped. the must read is next. the fact machine is fired up. r . with hyaluronic acid it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena trolling for a gig with can't blame you. it's a drone you control with your brain, which controls your thumbs, which control this joystick. no, i'm actually over at the ge booth.
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about the trump train because as someone who has been a part of the party of lincoln and reagan and eisenhower and coolidge to see someone like donald trump come along and essentially take it over is something that has to be pretty amazing in your lifetime. >> there's a great article in "national review" talking about how what i said like a week or two ago. this isn't new. i mean, same people that helped elect us in 199 4 helped the tea party win in 2010 and helped in 2014 were a huge part of that. if you want to say the working class, middle class americans that vote republican. they are the same people that voted for clinton twice. they voted for reagan twice. >> but do you worry? >> there has to be a balance in
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the force. >> but you have a situation where a party that has stood for a lot of different things is now taken part of its constituency and said we're not interested in that agenda anymore. the worry i have is among young people, hispanics, black americans that you have a done a significant degree of damage. >> it's gone the opposite direction of what the republicans said needed. we had this in 2012, exactly opposite direction. i will tell you, though, the republicans in washington, d.c. and all the think tanks, none of their economic policies have touched working class americans for the past 30 years. wage stagnation, seriously, naming tradeville that helped the working class american making $50,000 a year you can look. it's out there that a lot of the trade bills did send jobs overseas. and republicans can't just do
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what -- what we read about on whether it's free trade, lower taxes. name a tax cut that's helped somebody making $50,000. >> it says a lot about the republican party that they talk more about cutting tacks in an '80s fashion. >> and that's the exact point. why haven't republicans come up with any sort of payroll tax cut over the past 30 years. mitt romney's idea for reviving the economy, and a lot of republicans fear, you need to cut corporate tax rates. i understand that. you understand that. but that doesn't do a whole hell of a lot for somebody making $50,000 in central california. >> that just does not appeal to you. i completely hear you on that. i still worry as a matter of a coalition, a way that you're creating a toxic cancer.
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>> the problem is -- >> they could have done that without a wall. >> if marco rubio, for instance, had stayed in the senate more than two weeks and developed more of an economic policy that played to the trump voters and instead wasn't just wrap ped up in republicans were telling him to do or wall street republicans were telling him to do, rubio would be a perfect vehicle. what you have to do is find somebody like reagan and they could be up there that rubio could win, but also -- >> essentially he offered bush 2.0, which was rejected. now you have ted cruz offering true conservatism. >> what's interesting too is that conservatives, people who support donald trump are saying to ted cruz, who is saying donald trump is not a true conservative. we don't really care at this
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point. we don't care. we care he can get us jobs. we care that he's strong. >> although on taxes, it's more of a traditional tax plan than rubio's was. economics is being underdiscussed as a big issue in this potential trump/clinton general election. trump, let's see what kind of policies he brings forward. too many votes. >> you go to all of trump's rallies, talking about the wall, everybody is looking for the bright shiny objects like the wall and the muslim ban. you go to the rallies and it's economics. these are people struggling. it's something the article brought up because he talked about how this is one component of the republican party that's always been there and might be building a fifth column, so to speak. but there has to be balance. there has to be balance, and --
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>> when i worked on the clinton campaign there was one sign is and it was "the economy is stupid." i was kind of like the canopies. >> i think the concern i have about trump is less about his policies than about the practical. the lesson we have taken away from the delegate fight is that this is a campaign that doesn't build a lot of the traditional operations we expect from a campaign. that could have significant negative effect this is time around for the republican party. >> let's read from our must-read op-ed that mika has faxed in. with 10 million vote, trump is on track to become the biggest primary vote-getter in gop history. this is the kind of momentum that tends to grow. smart niss have been translating all these victories into delegate counts. but as i look at where we are, get your mind off 1237. get your mind on the win that
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donald trump's back. after all the embarrassments, his support is building. the conservative writers and thinkingers who for nine months warned that trump is not a conservative, to consider the idea that a large portion of the republican base no longer sees itself as conservative. at least as that term has been defined the past 15 years by washington writers and thinkers. >> it's great. it's the truth. the voters, the republican voters, the republican base have not only ignored all these washington conservative thinkers and writers, they have run over them. just obliterated any premise that they determine who wins the primaries. >> the party has not done serious soul searching. part of it is the issues. not cutting entitlements. asserting tax cuts.
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belief that america does need to have a different trade policy. the last week more republican voters still in the race. >> it's interesting the list that mark pointed out there. it also shows why it's so critical that republicans mainstream republicans figure out why trump is succeeding because the entitlements are going to bankrupt us. and by the way, it's simple. we're going to be bankrupt as a nation if it we don't take u that head on. but there's no nobody out there that can give a strong alternative to donald trump ying, don't touch social security or medicare. >> the real problem that the party has to face is it's gone through a series of elections now without working through what they learned from the bush years, what they have learned from the '90s. there's never been that process that brought them to in new point to say this is going to
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teach us about where we ought to go. the failure of the rubio campaign is a perfect example of that. the success of trump is an example of that. there has to be soul searching, but also just a recognition. our priority needs to have policy priorities that line up with our base. otherwise it can be taken over. >> how ironic that marco rubio ran the republican campaign of the past. if there's ever been a campaign that typified the past of a party, it was his. and donald trump -- >> who would have done great in the 1990s. >> but on paper he was the per spect vessel. young guy, latino, he was answering all the questions that were supposed to be answered after 2012. >> if you want to be president of the united states, not only do you as a republican have to get a third of the hispanic vote, you also have to get those
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white working class voters. because if you don't get them coming out the way trump is, you're not going to win anymore. it's over. the republican party of the 1990s is over. it's dead. reach out to pop lists and hispanics and get more than 6% of the black vote, just for the hell of it. please, it's ridiculous. you have to figure out how to do all that. >> good to see you. >> thank you, ben. still ahead, tim kain e was one of the people dispatched to hit back at donald trump's foreign policy speech. the democrat joins us this morning. we're back in just a moment.
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coming up, tom brokaw reports on a republican contender for president picking a running mate early on in order to try to gain headlines before a potential contested convention. no, we're not talking about ted cruz. >> reagan left immediately after the announcement. he would not take questions on his decision. . his press secretary said the former governor picked the pennsylvania senator because they agreed on major issues. >> tom brokaw joins us at the table, next on "morning joe."
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welcome back to "morning joe." it's friday, april 29th. mika has the morning off. mark halperin is here. and senior political ed your and white house correspondent sam stein. and joining the conversation, nbc news special correspondent tom brokaw. also political correspondent casey hunt. so willie, we were talking about what happened before with ted cruz and carly fiorina. but you showed a clip going to break. >> we have a bigger clip. many compared cruz picking carly fiorina to ronald reagan's
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gamble in 1974 when he named his. tom brokaw was there for that. let's watch. >> good evening, the news tonight begins with a big surprise. ronald reagan says he wants senator richard schwieker of pennsylvania. he's from a populous industrial eastern state. reagan is from california. he says he will take the job and said today basically this is a coalition. reagan said earlier this month i don't believe in the old tradition of picking someone at the opposite end of the political spectrum because he can get votes you can't get yourself. reagan has done just that. tom brokaw was there when the announcement was made. >> reagan's announcement came after a series of weekend interviews in which he said he had not decided on a running
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mate. >> since i feel the delegates have a right to know in advance of the convention who the nominee would be, i am departing from tradition and announcing my selection. i have chosen a distinguished united states senator from pennsylvania the honorable richard schweiker. this is a ticket in which all republicans can unite and lead our party to victory in november. thank you all very much for coming. >> reagan left immediately after the announcement. he would not take questions on his decision. reagan's press secretary said the former california governor picked the pennsylvania senator because they agreed on major issues. reagan spokesman said that he would help in the northeast, an area of the country that reagan ignored during the primaries. reagan made his decision after meet iing with him all day
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saturday here in los angeles. they met only once before at a dinner party in philadelphia a few years ago. tom brokaw, nbc news, los angeles. >> i need that jacket, willie. >> that's great stuff. >> what am i hiding in my hair? >> lo cucusts. >> great stuff there. >> the interesting thing is, tom, people look back at that as a terrible mistake. >> it was running the campaign very suspect within the reagan kitchen cabinet inner circle. people couldn't stand it. he was running a very conservative column at the time. if they went to the pennsylvania senator they could dwinish the concern of the country that reagan was too conservative, that he was from california, that he didn't play to the rest of the country. it was a disaster. it didn't work at all. four years later, briefly still in charge, but when reagan lost
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iowa he was gone. they got to new hampshire. reagan won there and became the president of the united states and now has half the airports in america named after him. >> speaking of california, chaos erupted outside of donald trump's first campaign rally in the state. anti-trump demonstrators south of los angeles grew from blocking traffic to protesters aggressively swarming cars and at one point they busted a police cruiser's windows with one man stomping on it. protesters force the police to shut down streets. other witnesses saw people jumping on street signs and throwing bricks. there was the smell of burnt rubber filling the air as a car spun in the middle of an intersection doing donuts. 20 people were arrested but reported no major injuries in what was the worst violence since the fight inside the chicago rally in march. this time the fights broke out between opponents and supporters outside and a local affiliate has the footage of a trump
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supporter who was bandaged and talking to medical personnel after reporters witnessed the confrontation. and tom, california has been -- >> a terrible idea. protesters are only making trump -- spltrum trump -- solidifying his position. they look at all that and say that's where america is going and i don't want to be a part of it. there are ways to protest and not to protest. california is going to be the big avocado coming up this spring. but the fact of the matter is that if you're going to get trump they are going to have to find new ways of going after him. >> got to stop playing into his hand. i was talking about 1968. my parents, democrats, fdr democrat, deep south, voted for democrats their entire life.
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that changed in 1968 in large part because of what they saw in the democratic convention. by the time '72 in miami came around, they were like this isn't my party anymore. the very people that feel like the country is slipping out of their hands see that and tom is right. it plays into trump's hands. >> cleveland is going to be an extraordinary convention. you're going to see a scale of protests because trump inspires big crowds for him and against him. it's going to be difficult to handle. the same kind of miscalculations could occur and could help trump. >> the rage on both sides works for him. the supporters and more fervent the antagonists are. you're going to seat guy in the bandages up on stage next to trump saying this is what they want to do. this is you, america. they are trying to take our country away from you. >> that was the lesson of the chicago rally. a lot of people on tv were saying this is a dark day for the trump campaign.
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look what it's inspired. supporters say no, these people tried to silence him. this works in it his favor. >> i would say to the media covering this going forward. imagine if trump supporters roughed up a clinton rally. imagine how the coverage would be. >> the pac between cruz and kasich to stay out of each other's way has hit another snag. early in the week kasich failed to tell supporters not to vote for him in indiana and cruz has rejected the idea of an alliance. >> i recognize that the media is all eager to talk about an alliance. there is no alliance. john kasich made the decision in his own interest to withdraw from indiana. let me say to folks at home who may have been considering supporting john kasich. cayce sick a good and honorable man. but he has no path to winning and john kasich has pulled out. he's withdrawn from the state of indiana. >> i got up yesterday and i
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started thinking about my campaign. started thinking about my effort. i thought about should i keep going. should i carry on? what is this all about? and i thought deeply about it. so i have decided to keep going. there are going to be people who are going to criticize u me for that. it's not always an size road. i'm going to do my best. >> we're at the edge of a cliff staring downward. and it is the common sense and good judgment of the hoosier state that is the one thing that stands between us and plunging over the cliff. >> can indiana be the nail in the coffin for ted cruz? >> last tuesday was the nail in the coffin. >> were we dreaming earlier this
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month when an alliance was announced? did that not happen? are they pretending it didn't happen? >> it was a limited agreement. it only applied to three states. neither of them had had anything to say about it then that made it seem anything less than desperate. as they have gone on this week, i described the deal the way it was executed as amateur. both campaigns complained to me about that. i'm now thinking, immature was too nice. >> there was a deal. now they are saying there's no deal. you are talking about some deal. >> first of all, the deal, the conclusion helps trump. and then the weakness of them backing away from a deal that they u set up, we say it again. this is the theme of the day. the anesthetic theme of the wee. everybody is playing into trump's hands. >> they remind me when i was a
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freshman at the university of iowa when finals were coming up. i thought if i ace every one of them i can get to a 2.0. but it's going to take that for me to get to a 2.0. acing every final is not going to happen. these are hail marys. it's getting thinner and thinner for them to stop him. down to a couple states at this point. i have been thinking, i think i said it here before. turn the block back about ten months or even a year. all the pundits in washington are now over their furn furnace burying their columns about him not getting elected. he's defied all the conventional wisdom because he's playing in a new reality frankly. what he's doing is reaching out to the country that feels like they are no longer a part of american political systems. he's going to be their advocate. and the more they protest, the better he does. >> you can't say hoosier state
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if you don't know a basketball hoop. >> let's go to casey hunt right now. she's out on the campaign trail. actually she's in d.c. you have to win votes in d.c. as well. the deal that was, the deal that wasn't and where we go from here. >> i was sort of laughing to myself because this deal happened last month it feels like it was that long ago. it was quite recently. it fell apart in the meantime. i was in indiana the last couple days. and it was pretty clear that donald trump is really in a position where it's his race to lose in indiana. there was some excitement around cruz announcing carly fiorina initially, but it fell flat afterward. it felt kind of familiar to the indiana sources i was talking to. there were some polling circulating in republican
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circumstanles early in the week was showing trump kind of on the rise, which is what matters the most in this polling. that was before he won those five statings. that was before ted cruz called it a basketball ring. we joke about it, but hoosiers take their basketball pretty seriously. i think it did make a difference. >> but to be clear, on monday, sunday, whenever this was, there was an alliance, right? there was a a deal announced between the campaigns, which they are denying now existed. >> that happened, both campaigns put out statements. i talked to john kasich the day after it was announced. i have to say he didn't really seem on board with it at the time. and ted cruz seemed to be the one who was more willing to embrace this, if you will. i think it sort of became clear if anything it backfired. and there were two groups of kasich voters if you talk to people backing kasich in indiana. they will say, we had a group of people who their main goal is to stop trump, they look around and
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say i'm disappointed, but fine, i'll do what you're telling me to do. there's another group -- kasich's voters are not ted cruz's voters. they are looking at cruz and saying there's no way to get on board with this guy. it's the same reason lindsey graham had trouble getting on board with cruz. he came around, but you're seeing a group of people that isn't willing to do that. >> it's a mistake that cruz and kasich and others have made. the consumer is not an idiot. it's your wife. they assume stupidity on the part of the electorate. we can do this alliance. we can put carly fiorina and say it's not over. if we win indiana, everything changes. people are not stupid. they are just not. >> you know this better than anybody else. in 2016 the calculation that you see every time cruz gets on stage and starts talking in this
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cadence. marco rubio, every time he spoke, i heard the echoes of a thousand focus groups. donald trump goes out there and he wings it. we criticize him for winging it too much. he tweets. he gets earned media. he gets earned media off his tweets. earned media matters. 30-second prepackaged tv ads, they just don't connect. >> they are never going to decide an election again. >> one guy winning votes from voters and two career politicians making a deal. >> one thing, too, i think we have talked a little bit about the general election. republicans have been wrestling with is donald trump the guy to win the general election. republicans in indiana i was talking to people involved in building these delegate slates up. they got tons of applications from democrats in indiana to be delegates to the republican national convention. and a couple things there. first, it has republicans worried their down ballot races
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are going on to hurt because it's democrats showing up. but it also tells you there are a lot of new different voters out there in places like indiana which we typically think of as one of the redder states willing to vote for donald trump. >> one of the things we have heard is people who work with ted cruz and know him don't particularly like cruz. former house speaker john boehner gave serious voice to that during a visit to california this week. boehner said while he would vote for donald trump in a general election, there's no way he will ever vote for cruz and offered this description of senator ted cruz. >> lucifer in the flesh. in washington i have a z many democrat friends as i have republican friends so i get along with erbe. but i have never worked with a more miserable person in my life. over my dead body will he be president. >> how long has he been waiting
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to say that? >> we're watching all of that, this is also the week in which donald trump liken hillary clinton to a nonperson. 5% if she were not a woman. she's just playing the woman card. that should have been a devastating statement on his part in terms of how it plays out. but because of all the other stuff that's going on, it's mostly about how kasich and cruz can't get their act together. it's about boehner commenting on cruz. he can make a big faux paw. i'd like to see where we go from here. >> sam stein, the question is, though, these quotes are forever. it gets buried in the republican primary, but i've been saying that for about a month. the same things that help donald trump in a republican primary right now in the short game u could end up hurting him badly in the long run had unless he figures out how to make that
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turn. >> the "new york times" is reporting this morning that aids to trump say he will go after bill clinton's indiscretions with monica lewinsky in the general election. trump has some significant voter hurdles here going after clinton for the so-called woman card. a cbs poll has him losing white women support to clinton. republicans don't lose the white women vote. not since 1996. that's a huge problem for donald trump. one last point on lucifer or the comments. these are interchangeable. john boehner, his initial candidate was john kasich. that's the person he endorsed. john boehner feels that way about ted cruz. that lets you know how unlikely it was going to be that people who liked kasich would turn around and cast a vote for ted cruz in indiana. they are just totally u
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different camps within the republican party. that alliance was basically doomed for failure from the start. >> and you're right about him not understanding the basics of basketball. whether you're in indiana or kentucky, that makes people think they are not connected to him u. tim russert had that great line about him going up and asking about a candidate, what do you think about that guy? the guy said, doesn't wear socks. there was a cultural disconnect. i think it was iowa. but cruz, it seems could not have misplayed the first three days in his make or break state any worse than he has. >> i think they went into this -- they were arguing, we knew we were going to lose these five states. we knew this was going to be really bad. i think they underestimated the impact of that momentum. i think you're right, my sense
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on the ground was not that ted cruz was there having three great days, but donald trump followed it up by hitting the campaign trail with bobby knight. >> tom, that's check mate. bobby knight is check mate. >> at least a winning coach. >> bobby knight is closest thing in indiana. even the people not happy about his behavior, you go to indiana and the hoosiers talk about bobby knight. that's the real deal. that was important for them. he's getting more and more of those people coming to his side who have an attachment to the voters that he wants to get to where he is. everyone does have to remember, however, that we're in that phase of these campaigns where they are trying to get the nomination. so they are playing to that select group of people that will get them the nomination. the numbers are still quite
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devastating for trump when you look at the wider arena about people who don't want to be president. but we have a long ways to go. those can be changed as well. got to get the nomination and he seems to be on track to do that. >> ohio in the general election, he's going to do a seance and bring become woody haste. >> yesterday when we were talking about great indiana figures and said bobby knight or larry bird. the great notre dame coach called our control room and said don't forget about digger. >> i own northern indiana. we know you do. >> we love you, digger. >> we weren't talking about south bend or northern part of indiana. >> all right, tom brokaw, thank you so much. appreciate it. still ahead on "morning joe," tim kaine is a senator
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from virginia, but they had a different title for him. >> thank you, vice president kaine. >> vice president of your fan club. >> i'm sure there's a lot of competition for that role. >> senator kaine joins us at the table straight ahead. also chuck todd will be here. "morning joe" back in a moment. d it plumps skin cells with intense hydration and locks it in. for supple, hydrated skin. hydro boost. from neutrogena
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greatest. he endorsed trump. he endorsed trump. and i'll tell you right now i will take bobby knight over carly fiorina every day of the week. >> we got to talk about this presidential crap just for a moment here. i'll tell you who they said wasn't presidential. that guy was harry truman. and harry truman with what he did in dropping and having the guts to drop the bomb in 1944
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save saved millions of american lives. >> this is very interesting. the body language. bhfs the last time you saw a presidential candidate standing like this next to this. >> is there a better brand fit than those two? >> you talk about large and in charge. and harry truman dropping the big one. >> we talked about this last night. that event was just all just a brand that is going to have some reside resonance for a lot of voters. just making a choice. >> the interesting thing about when you were selling cars to women, it was more effective showing a man driving a car. the worst way to sell a car to a woman was having a woman drive the car.
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because to them there was something stronger about the engine. we don't want to drive a woman's car. so there's this weird reverse thing that has appealed to a lot of women. >> let's go to washington and moderator of "meet the press" chuck todd. chuck, good to see you, sir. >> willie, i had a flashback to bobby knight. because do you remember the characters he called himself harry s. truman? and there was this old guy that sounded just like bobby knight there. he dropped the big one. and it feels like old man knight telling tales. let me tell you about the good old days. >> so today is friday. let's fast forward to next wednesday, five days from now. we're talking this time on wednesday morning. what story are we telling? has donald trump won?
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has he won big and what does it mean for the rest of the race? >> i think if indiana is going to go the way i think it's going to end up going, we're going to be talking about clinton versus trump. what can trump do to fix his issues with women. on one hand, i give cruz credit. they are throwing everything at the wall. let's try an alliance. that didn't work. let's try a running mate. let's see. maybe they have something else they can pull out of their hat this weekend. they are putting it all out there. which means if they don't win indiana, it's over. they have no plan b after indiana if they lose it. a the this point, we'll see what the polling shows this weekend. i can't imagine that it's cruz that has momentum and not trump. >> it's interesting. trump declared himself the presumptive nominee. people are assuming this goes to june. if trump gets 50% in indiana,
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given kasich's remarks about deciding to continue on, i think there will be calls for cruz and kasich to get out and let trump start to consolidate. i wouldn't be surprised if the trump people try to find someone else on the party of an authority figure to send the signal. this thing is over and these guys should get out. it would be a huge advantage to trump. take over the convention planning. reach out to fundraisers and think more about how to win a general election rather than another more than a month of trying to jockey. >> remember mccain in 2008. he did not have a majority of delegates and the head of the republican party invited him for a meeting for a photo op. that sent a signal to huckabee to get out. >> what could they say next wednesday morning if they lose indiana? what's the case? there's no case. let's turn to the democrats with the path to the nomination narrowing, bernie sanders is turning a critical eye to the
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democratic party. at a rally yesterday, sanders focused less on his challenger and more on that party. >> the problem we're having now is not in my view, that the republicans are winning elections. the problems is that the democrats are losing elections. the democratic party up to now has not been clear about which side u they are on on the major issues facing this country. the democratic party has to reach a fundamental conclusion. are we on the side of work iing people or big money interests? >> meanwhile, "the washington post" reports that out of all the candidates who run for president this year, bernie sanders has spent the most money on his campaign. according to the post, but the end of march, the senator spent $166 million. the same time we have also learned the clinton campaign is not spending any money at all on
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ads in the upcoming primary states. it appears to be the first time since august of last year that clinton campaign has been dark over the air waves. hillary clinton has turned to the general election. >> she has. they are not using the phrase presumptivive nominee. they are trying to be a little bit careful here not to look like they are being totally overconfident, but as a campaign, they are in convention planning mode right now is my understanding. they have a a team looking at that. so they are in the mode that mark was describing trump would like to be in. that's what the clinton campaign is doing now. i tell you, sanders is sounding like a bitter guy. i can't win the democratic party nomination, so let me tell you everything that's wrong with the democratic party. there's a little sour grapes there. but sanders, why didn't he endorse more house candidates, senate candidates? you're going to reform the
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party, there's a lot of progressive candidates wondering why he didn't help them when he could have and shown that he's got juice in the party beyond himself. >> sam stein wharks do you think? >> chuck is completely right. one of the problems that sanders had was he couldn't win over the actual establishment of the democratic party. the same thing about for our podcast, which is you have to show you're not just -- that you can lead a party. and he never actually did that. sanders is going to stay in the race. he's going to campaign through california and his people tell me that the reason they are doing is they feel like anyone who is a big supporter of him and his causes deserves the right to vote for them. that's fine. the second thing, which was interesting, they view it as good for the democratic party at large that he stays through the race. primary uly because he will get more people who have been on the sidelines to register to vote. they think that will have an
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effect in november when you have a general election, if he's the nominee or clinton is the nominee. >> i'm not telling my voters to go vote for hillary clinton. that's up to her to convince them. he's not hand iing this thing t her. >> no, but if it he wants to be the leader of this movement and he wants to make it a movement, actually, it is incumbent upon him to show he can push them in a certain direction. i mean, i u get what he's saying that hillary clinton needs to reach o out, but i think it is incumbent if it he wants to show there's anything to the sanders movement post candidacy to move voters themselves. >> what are we looking at for sunday? >> we're going to have ted cruz and his explanation of how the last five days have gone. and i'll have john brennan, head of the cia on the fifth an vit
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the president saying you don't have a strategy. they don't want to be held accountable. pepper the witnesses with questions and vote yes or no. it's bipartisan in both houses. i have not been able to convince my colleagues this is a war that tactically we're doing what we need to do, but congress hasn't authorized the war. in syria we have international questions, i think, about the legality of the war. >> the thing is we also -- you talk about strategy, nobody can answer the big question. we can't as a nation answer the big question. congress can't. that is do you have the leader of syria stay or go? >> that was on early. president obama wishes he had the words assad must go back because it isn't up to the united states to set the terms for who the leader of a country
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is. could we say assad is a war criminal? there's all kinds of things you could say about his war crimes and activities. but to say assad must go, the u.s. can't set the terms. >> the problem is how do you go to a country where somebody committed the war crimes that assad committed and continues to commit. bombs a hospital last night. it was on the front page of the papers. it puts us in a terrible position. we can't decide who is going to stay or go. a lot of republicans and democrats did it in the 1990s in the balkans. but how do we even start to answer that question. >> here was a fork in the road where we made the wrong turn. in february of 2014 the u.n. security council passed a resolution that called for cross border delivery of aid into syria without assad's permission that we could do that. the world community at that point should have set up a safe
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zone in northern syria and call it a humanitarian zone. you can come here and you're going to be safe. if anybody messes with you, we're going to have military assets to protect this humanitarian zone that the u.n. -- >> why didn't we do it? >> there was a reluctance to use military assets to protect it. at that point, it would have been a lot simpler. the issue between the kurds and terks has made that real estate much more complicated. u be there's still 8 million displaced syrians that could leave. >> why can't we make a safe zone there? this is not only a crisis in syria. it's not only a regional crisis, it's now a crisis for europe. it's a crisis across the globe. why can't we create a safe zone for these refugees to return home? >> there wasn't the commitment to use the military assets to protect the humanitarian mission. but now we're using the assets
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to battle. we were talking about senator mccain. he was calling for this in 2013 and i wasn't convinced until the u.n. security council passed the resolution. russia didn't veto it. we were smart enough to put it on the table during the olympics and russia was worried about being an apoll gist and everybody was watching him but then it's not as clear as it should be. it is basically to shrink the imogen lloyd webber battle space and that's been succeeding in iraq and syria. the real estate that they were gaining is shrinking. that's good. and it's continued to put pressure on them to shrink the battle space. the problem is imogen lloyd webber now knows there are days
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are numbered. what they are deciding to number is we are numbered on the battlefield so let's bomb an airliner in the sinai or go to brussels or paris and they are moving all around because they know the battlefield space is shrinking. the reason that we haven't gotten to the strategy is how do you get to a strategy on something like this. the war declaration is important. the president comes and has to make the case. usually proposes an authorization. and congress doesn't accept what the president proposes. congress puts the state department and military witnesses and asks tough questions and takes the president's originally proposed authorization and changes it. congress didn't pass it. they ended up changing it. that's how you work on a strategy and you do it with the american public watching so that eventually when congress votes the american public had been brought sbo what's at stake. we haven't done it because congress wants to fly speck the president and say you're not doing it right.
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but don't ask us to go yes or no. it's like hot under the table. >> they act like suggestion. is your candidate in this race going to treat congress with more respect regarding more than the current president? >> we haven't talked about this. she was a senator. >> so was barack obama. >> how about talking to her about it? >> she gets the prerogatives of this. president obama and i talk about this too. when i'm pounding on him about war authorization, sometimes staff gets mad at me. i was a senator, i know what you mean. but maybe i'm focused on this stuff because it was virginians like madison and others who put this into the constitution. we are so radical by having a system of government where we're not supposed to be at war without a vote of congress. war is for the king or the prince or the president or monarch. here it's supposed to be only
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initiated by congress, but both parties, both houses for a long time -- >> why don't you try to get a commitment from hillary clinton to treat it differently than the past president. >> i have a high degree of confidence for somebody who has been an armed services member. she's going to balance that out. >> anointed you vice president, one of the names at the top of the list. any comments on that? >> i really love my job. i really do. i have a great feeling that i'm going to be on that podium with hillary clinton when she's taking the oath of office, but i'm going to be sitting with the other senators. she's going to be a great senate to work with. i'm not looking for another post. >> you criticized donald trump's speech. tell me what your biggest concerns with trump's speech was. >> probably three things. one, this line in the middle of america needs to be more unpredictable. our allies don't want us to be
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unpredictable and our troops don't. that's an honest statement. with donald trump that's going to be unpredictable. second, trump has said frequently during this campaign, he said is on stage, the american military is a disaster. we have 1.6 million people serving and i don't want a commander in chief that talks about them with contempt. i want someone who talks about them with respect. he called in america, the first speech, but it's more of a blame america first speech. anything bad going on is because of the u.s. that's wrong. we have kof earnance probleming not caused by us. it's not our fault. a lot of things we can do
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better. >> we will leave it there. tim caen, thank you very much. please invite us to your vice presidential reception. you are going to have to have one, right? we want to be there. >> i will know sworn in in the senate in january. >> blah blah blah. who was the last vice president from virginia? >> john tyler? >> i think all of america agrees, it has been too long. >> the latest movie to get people laughing. ronald reagan's family is speaking out. we will have that ahead on "morning joe." we invested in your fund to help us pay for a college education for our son. we've enclosed a picture of our son so that you can get a sense there are real people out here trusting you with their hard-earned money. ♪ at fidelity, we don't just manage money,
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president of the united states that i will run on a ticket with my vice presidential nominee, carly fiorina. >> yes, ted cruz has found a n runni runningimate. >> with all due respect, it airs at 6:00 p.m. there is that moment where i cry every time. >> did he say amen? and all the people said amen. >> we have those at msnbc's weekend with alex witt.
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and donny is with us. senior political editor and white house correspondent sam stein. >> the motley crew. >> that are is a motley crew. >> someone has to have the estrogen, right? chaos erupted outside of donald trump's first campaign rally in united states. in costa mesa, south of los angeles, they blocked traffic to those swarming cars and at one point, busting a police cruiser's windy. they forced them to close streets and some threw bricks and the smell of burned rubber because of what's happening right there. that's a car spinning out in the middle of an intersection. they reported no major injuries and what was the worst violence in march. this time fights broke out with
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supporters outside. knbc has footage of a trump supporter. they witnessed a confrontation big time. >> the violence was outside the rally. it's going to be hard for them to spin this one as donald trump's problem. that was something they love to talk about. i sar say that degree of violen violence. >> and it lays to bear what could be months of donald trump and his legit masy and his appeal. california has never seen what we are about to see. it will be a lot of political activity in the state. a state that size with a lot of people and a lot of things. >> this is what they try to do
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to us. this is a trump supporter and they are trying to keep us down. you are going to see that again. >> all of the rage and the ager and the violence with police cars and all of that plays right into his hands. >> everything that is happening. that's between kasich and cruz. you want to take this election away from us, you are rigging the system. everything is done now even if it's political 101, it plays into his hands. >> they are taking our country away from us. like my parents said when there was violence in chicago. my parents were born democrats and voted democratic their entire life. that started to change in 1968. with all the riots and the protests. it seemed like us against them.
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as i always said, it was john wayne versus jane fonda and there was no middle ground. >> last week i said i think he is going to win. the amount of people the last four or five days coming around and i said this guy is going to win. >> you mean the republican nomination. >> i mean the presidency. i hear more people with different types -- >> what are they saying? >> my mother. >> i say the nomination. >> i'm starting to hear from the research that i feel something. that's an advertisement. >> there is no statistical relevance to it. it's out there and -- >> what are you doing with your
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fingers? >> that's what's happening. trump is in california again. watch to see the reaction he gets. >> so that's all the outside stuff. let's talk about is happening inside. the 18,000 people at the orange county fairgrounds were unaware and trump called on the stage the families of people who had violence against them. >> we demand americans first. we don't care about illegal aliens. americans first. first things first. >> ja mill is representing a group. they have a similar story to tell. people that should never have been allowed to come over the border. they come here like it's nothing and walk through like it's nothing. we will stop it and build a
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wall. we can't have this, folks. we don't have a country anymore. i'm looking at statistics where the crime numbers are so crazy. they are going through the roof. i don't know how they take it. these are great unbelievable people. we have to stop it. this is out of a book. no state has suffered more from open borders than the state of california. they have been devastated. we know that. >> they suggest a soft turn towards the general election moving towards positions that might help donald trump with hispani hispanics. we are not seeing it. >> she going full order. that's what you talked about. he is going to back this. the last couple of days.
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those are the good old days when america made sense. what he is doing in california is not pivoting to the general election. the establishment and people in washington are turning to donald trump now. no denying. you have two more endorsements and two heads of veterans affai affairs. these are serious people taking these. >> the bob corker, if one thing indicated a massive change, he is not a tea party guy. he is one of the more moderate leaders there. when he came out and said about that speech that there were interesting contours to it, i don't know if you get into the particulars, but he has support from people who are to be taken
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seriously in the party. >> the thing was really interesting a few hours after trump's foreign policy speech. they gave it a sign of significance. >> you always have to do that. >> let me pick up on donny's point. >> don't talk about that. stop it. he said there is lawlessness and the country is being taken away from you. border crossings that he referenced and third in all time
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low. at some point, the facts run up. >> everything he has done. i want to pick up on the speech. this is a cautionary tale. this is the first time we saw him reading. the thing that makes him work and do a lot of things terribly. his connection with the audience because he is not reading is so real, i found a very different thing with him trying to be presidential and him being a very different donald trump. you have to read stuff. i don't care who you are. when he speaks, i lean in.
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that's something he will have to juggle. he was not being trump. >> i'm not talking about substance. >> i picked that up with the foreign policy speech. >> i think what everybody learned, they should have learned. he can do that if he has big cheering crowds, but not small rooms. everybody has strengths and weaknesses. we all know the funniest most likeable guy you ever want to meet. get him in the east room and it's painful. he played the strengths. explain something to me.
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i'm sure all those guys. they understand he is going to probably get to 1237. they also they are doing things and can he win? there not enough. >> first of all, he is always going to say what he believes on issues like immigration. he believes he can rally a lot
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of people. he and trump has been for a position on immigration. i think he will pivot to talk about letting people stay here. trump will lose the hispanic vote. he will lose california massively. can he target hispanics in illinois and new jersey? there other issues he can talk about to win. he can get more of the white vote than romney did. he is not going do well with hispanics. >> do you think he will do better or worse?
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he lost 71%. they are targeting the operations. i'm not sure this is going to be the case. that's not what it's about. >> in california anyway. i'm talking about the general election. they are here again today. can he not win it? . trump can probably put this in. pay. >> they won that question. they cannot make hillary clinton save the defense. he can make a lot of money right now. what happened from pete wilson on there. it has been a virtual wasteland for republicans for the past 20 years. >> with celebrity and appeal
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that was more of a personality. he talked about building a wall. >> he can say look. they were killed boy hispanics. i'm not predicting this. watch and see. it happens in the next couple of days about weather there is a possibility to build in california. >> the reagan children hit back at will ferrell playing their dad in a dark comedy about the president's battle with alzheimer's. what does the weekend look like? >> we had the flooding into the hours around gulfport, mississippi. some of that still exists. this is ten inches of rain with thunderstorms and there were a lot of of pictures as dramatic as that. they get to high ground. they had a call to get people
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a new film in development where will ferrell will portray ronald reagan as he begins to suffer from dementia. he is convincing the commander in chief that he is an actor
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playing the president. he tweeted out alz himers is not comedy to people suffer from the disease. it robs you of your mind and it kills you. patti davis writes perhaps if you knew more, you would not find the subject humorous. alzheimer's steals memories and connections and a lifetime. this man was never afraid of anything. i heard his voice tremble as he said i don't know where i am. the film is without a director and being shopped around to studios. we will get that right there. will ferrell photo shopped. i'm a huge will ferrell fan. this is a horrific idea from the start and i can't believe she not going to try to get away from this. >> we don't know much about the
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. >> what about -- >> she is playing it as much as she can. i have been watching it and she raises her voice and it's like look what he is saying. give me a break. she raises her voice much more than i raise mine. >> nobody respects women more
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than i do. i see it at rallies. you saw it the other day in new york and pennsylvania. i just absolutely killed everybody with the women. the women came out in droves and women will vote for trump because they want security and safety and they want to have women's health issues taken care of properly. you know that hillary is not going to be a great president. the only thing she's got going with the women's card. >> she is playing that card like i have never seen anybody play it. >> if fighting for women's health care and paid family leave and equal pay is playing the woman card, then deal me in! >> welcome to the fall. that was part of the new ad from the clinton campaign playing off
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of trump saying that hillary clinton playing the women's card. it's also fund raising asking supporters to donate to get your woman card. still with us with sam stein. joining us in the conversation, the former adviser to "time" magazine and msnbc analyst elise jordan and the democratic mayor of baltimore, stephanie rawlings blake. halle jackson is coming to cruz campaign or as some say they call it hell. in washington, political correspondent who is covering the stop trump effort. wow. you need to ask to get off of that gig. it's going nowhere fast. what do you think about -- i can't just introduce. we have mika, she can introduce it straight. good morning. so mayor, the race is shaping
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up. i would guess in the way a lot of traditional democrats have been excited about. >> we could not be more thrilled. i see the democrats measuring up the drapes. we are in a very, very good position even when we smack at each other which is rare. we are talking about issues that matter to the american people. i think my girlfriends call it a hot mess. >> a hot, hot mess. we have been for a couple of decades now. what do you think is going to happen with the democratic party? i think bernie sanders is harming the campaign by the things he is saying? >> i think politics is a rough and tumble business and it's not all compliments and fluff. she is a big girl. a big woman, whatever. she can take it. she will come together as we have always done.
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we stand for what's right and what's going to move our country forward. we are not talking about the size of anybody's hands or making up nicknames. we are talking about leveling the playing field for the american people. >> we were doing that. >> exactly. it's hard to explain this to a 12-year-old. >> for shouldn't happen. >> hard to explain it to a 40-year-old. >> trump is throwing water and hands and you have people wetting their pants. >> it's really a high point. >> you can't explain that to your daughter. my daughter rolls her eyes. is donald trump hurting republicans? >> i think he damaged the brand with women. you are a democrat and i am a republican. i think we are in agreement that donald trump has not helped himself with women lately. >> let's go to a person covering lucifer's campaign. john boehner.
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what is the move. they have been talking about basketball cylinders this week. >> basketball cylinders. correct. rings where they have basketball-shaped objects. >> exactly. it's going to be a fight. they acknowledged that it is going to be close. they don't expect a shut down and trump looks strong. when you talk to people on the ground, there is a sense that indiana matters which is cool for them. when they cast their ballots, they will make a difference. number two, you look at how they can get momentum here. they will have to do it to be as successful as they want to be on tuesday. you talk about public, you have been talking about bobby knight. you talk about that this morning and i want to play about how he thinks bobby and i could help him in the state.
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>> we understand where bobby comes from. it's something special. he has something special. i think even beyond indiana. the people outside. they go crazy. they see bobby knight. they went crazy. >> you look at his record, we don't win with the military and with isis. we don't win with the deals. we don't win with anything. this is a winner and that's what the country wants. that's what the country needs. >> so trump on bobby knight there. you have been talking about that comment from ted cruz. the public ring and the moment where he his body measure the hoop. he said hoosiers is one of the favorite movies and he botched the line and said i misspoke and it happens. it's a basketball state. people love their basketball. i think i said it was in
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indiana. we are heading back to d.c. >> we are talking about how neither cruz nor kasich have anything going on in indiana. they have other efforts to stop trump. how are they doing? >> they are still obviously up there. i have gotten something back that you can feel their presence watching local and paying attention to what was going on. i saw much more from the pro cruz super pacs and the other outside groups. i had one woman send me a mailer she received and they are polling although i'm not sure what they are seeing on the ground. that tells you it's not encouraging, but to go back to what we were talking about earlier with women, that's an important play in indiana. the trump team knows they have work they have to do.
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it's donald trump junior talking straight to camera and how tough his father is and how he will have trump with his grandchildren and saying he is not so tough on the grandkids. it's a clear effort to try to soften donald trump's image. they need to shore things up. i will say it more broadly on the point of donald trump having challenges with women. inside the movement, the place where there seems to be a passion rather than a mercenary feel is with women republican operatives who seem to have a very passionate sense of fighting against donald trump in a way i don't pick up with everybody. >> sam stein? >> the same question for the mayor on the same topic.
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the big front page today about this whole topic of donald trump and the woman card. buried in there is a report sourcing to three trumpers that he is going to make an issue out of bill clinton's indiscretions with monica lewinsky in the general election. someone in the room with the ring of politics, how would you advise the clinton campaign to handle that sensitive topic when it will come up in the general election? >> i would advise them to take the high road. the sad part is i learned as a kid, if you point your finger, he is in no position to talk about it. the sat part about it is, the public continues to indulge bad behavior. clinton has to take the high road. did bill clinton make mistakes? absolutely. he said he did.
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that's between them and their marriage. for someone who has been married as many times as trump has been, that would be the last thing he would want to talk about. >> something about glass houses. the world according to trump. president obama would never use america first. it's the underlying theme that trump denounce. obama like trump is overextended and the nation is our own declared obama. the 2009 west point address. on afghanistan, the teleprompter speech was intended to finally clarify the foreign policy and produce that. the basic principal is continued. the retreat with national selfness rather than self doubt.
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>> it was a lot of different things that were incoherent. he was talking about how we needed to be so strong and he would take out isis without offering any semblance of how he would do that and saying he should withdraw at the same time. it looked like something that would be written by a committee and however many advisers he had spilling in. >> mark halprin and bob corker, some at least started around donald trump. >> partly i think out of the politics, but partly because foreign policy is up for grabs. the debate in the general election. he saw with senator paul and ted cruz and bernie sanders. there a lot of voices about what the world should be. to be the third post 9/11 president. i think trump is offering up
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choices. he is part of choices. >> thank you both for being with us. mayor, thank you so much for coming in. good luck. explain to your daughter what is going on on the campaign trail. it's not easy. i have a 12-year-old. still ahead, billionaire karl icahn brings in like $2 billion. next on "morning joe." us pay for a college education for our son. we've enclosed a picture of our son so that you can get a sense there are real people out here trusting you with their hard-earned money. ♪ at fidelity, we don't just manage money, we manage people's money. ♪
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terms of technology earnings. apple and google had rough quarters. amazon coming out with a bang. one of the drivers is web services business abbreviated aws. this is a machine. it has been a cash cow for amazon. it's a cloud commuting business that they started about ten years ago and it has been so profitable and sales rising 6% or more helped them be able to pay for the expansion. it does continue to grow, but is very expensive with shipping costs topping $3 billion. if this game holds, we will add about $6 billion on to his personal fortune. >> that's incredible. they always explained it's not profitable. what a big earnings report.
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let's talk about karl icahn who made a couple of quick billion dollars. why did he say goodbye to apple? >> he is worried about the chinese government making it difficult for apple to do business in that country. china has been a major growth area in terms of business. he is also widely known and talked about it as treasury secretary. they make big calls like this one. i wanted to mention dream works because comcast and both of this network made it official by dream works for $3.8 billion.
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challenging disney when it comes to child focus and family. shrec, madagascar and big box office hits. new characters and franchises to add to the theme park business which has been a spot for comcast universal studios and consumer products. all about building the big franchises. >> exciting for the comcast family. thank you so much. we appreciate it. the acquisition of dream works is not the only big news. we will explain that straight ahead and the connection to all of the people you are seeing wearing red. keep it here on "morning joe." all on account...of penelope. but with the help of at&t, and a network that scales up and down
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for the greater good, they are joining forces at comcast nbc universal. tomorrow marks over 100,000 volunteer sites across the globe from classrooms to public parks. the world famous red nose day that raised over a billion dollars for kids in need and global citizen where thousands of people take to action to stamp out extreme poverty and a darn cool concert in the process. they have the senior vice
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president of comcast corporation. we have the founder of comic relief. richard curtis and ceo of global citizen. can we start with it right here? let me say, congratulations on dream works. >> it's a very, very good deal for the company and our customers. it's a compliment to the animation work that we have. with shrec and mad cas car and kung fu pa"kung fu panda" and i provide more energy in an animated. >> it's exciting and we said it before.
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let's talk directly. directly. we want to fire this guy, but if you want here, you have to sign it. you will be responsible. let's talk about why we are here today and talk about the collection of organizations that come for the greater good. >> if i can. you said comcast is celebrating the 15th anniversary. working on almost 7,000 projects generating 4 million hours of service and being matched by $18 million in charitable contributions to local nonprofits. it's a signature day of service for comcast universal. the vision for this year is to take that platform and use it to promote two great company partnerships. one is in chronological order. red nose day that will follow on may 26th and the second global
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citizen that will follow in september. to use this fantastic platform to engage all comcast nbc universal employees to educate them and help to promote my fantastic work that is being done by red nose day and global citizens. >> to talk about this and how this has become a symbol for something much bigger. >> to talk about it is. what is brilliant about this. >> did i not tell you he was good? he could do it. we have been doing red nose day in the uk for a long time. we are trying to use the power of entertainment to change people's minds and change people's hearts. they did not show last year. they made $23 million. we are doing it again this year. i'm hearing about the dream
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works deal. we are doing a lot in our show. >> did you ever imagine that this idea could get so big? >> absolutely not. i'm a great believer that if you open the smallest door for people to do good and have fun, they will really take advantage of it. last year we didn't sell any noses. we sold 5 million in 10 days. they do amazing things for us. we have 100 celebrities from jack black to julia roberts. i believe $1 can change somebody's life. >> just to wear that face all the time. >> september is just around the corner. bring us up to date. what needs to be done? >> this is the fifth anniversary
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of the festival and we couldn't be more proud with comcast. david and i met a few years ago and comcast is doing extraordinary work and has a global view. richard has been one of the executive producers from a creative point of view and -- >> you are pretending to be friends. you are very good at that. >> this year will be the greatest festival. it's also the first year where we can hold world leaders accountable that the goals are implemented. when 193 world leaders come to new york city, we want to hold them couaccountable. >> we're do fund-raising whichy we raise and they do
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same time. >> every employee will make five global citizen points. that's incredible. she will have a busy year. thank you guys so much for coming in. >> it changes everything. >> the 15th annual comcast day and red nose day is coming up on may 26th. we would love to talk about it with a live prime time special on nbc. the global citizen festival returns on september 24th. an incredible event. we pick up the coverage with the red nose after a quick break.
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