tv The Place for Politics 2016 MSNBC April 29, 2016 1:00pm-2:01pm PDT
and then sheriff joe, as you know from arizona, endorsed trump. and he knows what he's doing. he really knows. but we've had so many incredible endorsements and now they're coming and i'll tell you, over the last two weeks, and it look place really even before that, but people see what's happening, because we have far more votes than anybody else, far more delegates than anybody else and we're going to hit that number, i think, quite easily. and i watch the very dishonest media and they say, cruz is getting, he's not getting delegates. they say he's getting delegates. he's getting second, third, fourth round. he's not going to be there because we're going to win it first round. as of today, we have 1,001. we just broke the thousand mark. okay? [ cheers and applause ] and we did fight hard in pennsylvania, because in pennsylvania i won in a landslide. we got, i guess over 60% of the vote. and that's pretty hard when you have three people running.
when you get 60% with two people, you win in a landslide. when you have three people and you get practically 60%, and then in the other states, you know, we had five and we did unbelievable numbers. up to 66% and it's been amazing. we had rhode island, and delaware and connecticut, maryland, pennsylvania. we did great. pennsylvania had a thing, if you win, you get 17. i got the 17. and the rest you have to fight for. i said what kind of a deal is this? you have to take them out to dinner. they take them to fancy restaurants, bring them to hotels, perhaps put them on yachts and take them for a cruise, they basically have to bribe the delegates, and it's not the right system. we have a system where it's democracy, we're supposed to be voting, where it's terrible, and fortunately, we have a great republican leader in pennsylvania. he's a really fair guy and
there's also a moral clause, and i've heard this for a couple of years, with the delegates in pennsylvania, if you win, there's a moral obligation that you're supposed to vote for the one who wins, which sort of makes sense, right? you know, i refused to say this room, because i say it outside and i get standing ovations, but this is a room i won't do it. but it's a rigged system. it's a rigged system. it's a horrible, horrible, disgusting system. and i see this bernie sanders, i'm not a fan of bernie sanders, by the way, but i see he wins a lot, wins a lot and he had never has a chance of winning. he won about 10 in a row, and every time you'd watch the pundits, they say, he can't win, he's way behind. because they have super delegates. ours is more sophisticated because you don't know how badly rigged it is. with a super delegate it's obvious. they handle all these super delegates.
and by the way, do i look forward to beating her? do we look forward to winning? [ cheers and applause ] do we look forward to winning? i mean, if she's allowed to run. there's a big question. i personally think she's being protected by the democrats, and she'll be allowed to run, but we'll see what happens. what we've done, we really won new york with 60, almost 62% of the vo, which was unprecedented and got 95% of the delegates, almost all. the next week, we had the five and won them all in landslides. and actually, lying ted -- and i think we have a couple of fans, but lying ted did not do too well in new york, folks. he's hovering around the 10% mark. you got to do better than that if you're going to collect the delegates on the second battle. how would you like to be in a position where you're in -- we're in cleveland and we're having the whole deal and it's going fine, and for some reason,
and don't worry about it, we get it, i think we have it easily. but for some reason it goes to a second ballot, and somebody on the second ballot, because they wined and dined delegates, who has five million less votes, because by the time we finish and we're scheduled to do very well in california, i guess you've seen that, but really well there, really well. the last poll i saw, i'm at 49%, which is great. and there's a lot of like 20s and a 19 or something, but we're doing well. and i won't even say it, because you got to go out and work, especially my people sitting in this section, they gotta work. why don't we just pretend we're tied, okay. all my life i've dealt with politicians. somebody will come into my office, the best politicians come into my office and say, donald -- i say, how you doing? and he said, i'm tied. and then he'll win by 25 points. has to motivate himself. but we have picked up so many
votes over the last period of time. in fact, i was just watching the networks today and they have a chart that i think it's already happened, but in the history of primaries, republican primaries, i've gotten the most votes, in the history of the republican party, right? and we haven't even hit some of the big, we haven't even hit some of the big states yet, which is sort of an amazing thing. so we're really on a path that's incredible, and yesterday, i thought ted did something which was really quite good. it was record-setting. it's never happened before in the history of politics. he has no path to victory. it's impossible for him to win with the votes. the only way he can possibly win is if things go terribly wrong and he goes through the back door and he bought all of these delegates, and i will never use the word bribe. i would never use the word like
bribe. so if he bribed the delegates, but i don't call it bribe. and then think of this, if you're the rnc and reince, who is a good man, by the way. and jim, where is jim? [ applause ] he did such a great job. he called me, he said, mr. crump, would you do me a favor? would you take maybe 10, 15 pictures? i say, absolutely, jim. so i'm coming through dirt and mud and under fences. so you all walk through the lobby, i go under fences. [ laughter ] i'm coming through, trying to get all the dust and everything off. and the 20 people that he told me about, turned out to be about what? 6, 700 people? my hand, i'm shaking hands, taking pictures. so that's why he's a great leader, right, jim? good going. [ laughter and applause ] i hope they paid a lot of money, jim. but, no, in the history of the republican party, there's never
been anything like this. and then what ted did, and yesterday in indiana, which is an incredible place, with incredible people, bobby knight, the great bobby knight endorsed me. how good is that. and he's going to be with me all sunday and monday and we are having a good time. you know, he's a winner. that's what we need now. we need winners. we have to win. our country doesn't win anymore. and we have to win. we have to win. but cruz did something i've never seen before, because he picked a vice presidential person, carly, he picked carly. and i like carly, but, you know, zero?he left, she had no votes. but she had no votes. maybe it's a good move. who knows. let you know in about a month. but the worst deal, making this deal with kasich. i get a call two days ago from a
number of people and we have to do a pr statement. it's 11:45 in the evening. they said, oh, mr. trump. what happened? they merged. who? kasich and cruz. i said, they did? that's a good thing. it shows total weakness. it shows illegal in collusion. you know in business, you get put in jail, politics, you can do anything you want, right? but it shows such ineptitude and such weakness. and what's the deal? the deal is that cruz will take indiana and kasich and now he's sitting there eating. you know, he's eating, doing a news conference and piling pancakes into his mouth. never seen anything like it. my little boy said, daddy, that's disgusting. i never saw a man eat like that. i've never seen a man eat while he's doing a news conference. did you ever see him do a news conference without eating? so these two guys formed an
alliance. think of it, i've been doing this for nine months. i'm so honored, and you have these two politicians. they've been doing it sort of all their lives, right? i mean, kasich approved nafta, which by the way, emptied out your state, emptied out every state. but kasich and cruz is fine with the chinese money manipulation. he's going to allow that to happen. you can't do that, that's how they're killing us, devaluation of their money and their currency is killing, absolutely killing this country. not only china, but many other places. you can't allow it. he wants to allow it. so there are a lot of things going on. you want to know why he wants to allow it? just ask the donors, ask the special interests, ask the people. because, believe me -- >> donald trump there addressing the california state republican convention. this is at their convention, which is being held near the airport, near the san francisco airport. quite a scene outside we were
watching before trump began his remarks. he had to go in through a back entrance. lots of protesters in the front of the facility, they knocked down a barricade at one point. you watch live the images of the scene, donald trump and his motorcade pulling up behind this hyatt regency hotel, trump with a heavy security detail around him, making his way into a back entrance. he remarked when he took the podium, he said this was not the easiest entrance he ever made. he likened it to crossing the border. we have steve patterson who has been standing by outside where all the protesters have been gathered and steve, you were talking to some of them earlier, they were talking about trying to keep donald trump from addressing this convention, trying to keep him from getting inside. he did get inside. do they know that part of their mission failed. and are they talking about what's going to happen afterwards. >> again, steve, i want to make clear that there are various
groups, some very peaceful and have absolutely no part of trying to keep trump in or trying to keep supporters out. what we are hearing from the people that are actively involved in this, and there have been many of them behind me, they are waiting for the moment where people start coming out. so the goal from the start, the people that were the instigators, to try to draw a confrontation. we know he's inside and they want to make a confrontation when he comes outside. so the plan here is to figure out and coordinate where to be, at what entrance to be. and we're starting to see some of the police push back. i want to take you around here, if you can follow me, you can see the barriers have once again been erected by police in anticipation of a possible ending of his speech and possibly people coming outside of the building. we keep hearing the crowd erupting in various places. anytime they see anything, they pounce on it. so we're just trying to monitor and keep an eye on where exactly the crowd is going to move.
once somebody gets a hint of something, that's the way it goes. so we're continuing to monitor the situation on the ground. send it back to you. >> and steve, we're looking at the pictures on the left side of our screen, the overhead pictures. i think it can be tough for the people watching this on tv, including me looking at the monitor. do you have an estimate of the total size, how many protesters are gathered there? what do you think the size of this crowd is? >> well, it's hundreds. it's not thousands. it's hundreds. but several, i would say, dozens would be the instigation group. so again this is broken down into some people who just showed up, to be peaceful, to protest, but to do it in a way that didn't really disrupt anybody. and we saw and we spoke to those people and they were gracious and they moved back when police wanted them to move back. but there are dozens of people here, anytime there's any hint of anything that could go wrong, they try to instigate or make
wrong. so we've seen at least four groups of those people, kind of moving in and out of the crowd and forming their own groups and pushing not only towards the hotel, but again, towards anybody that may be moving towards the hotel. and so it's been a very tense situation. not only with people who are just here for the conference, but within the groups of protesters. and we've been watching the situation almost since the early hours of this morning, and it continues. >> steve patterson, stand by outside the trump venue. they're going to go to clint van zandt now. clint, it raises the question, donald trump, we saw the sort of extraordinary steps they had to take to get him inside to be giving this speech. we watched that motorcade redirected behind the hotel there, the big security detail around him. now these protesters have got some time, if they want, to prepare for trump to make that exit difficult. at least some of these protesters could if they wanted to. the challenge for police here, when trump finishes this event
and tries to leave the hotel, take us through what's going to happen there. >> well, the secret service has won the first game in this so far. as they always do, they've developed a couple of ways in and a couple of ways to get out again. you call it a bail-out procedure. if there was something happened inside the building, you had to get the protectee out very quickly, the secret service has got ways, just like they'd move the president, they can move a candidate like this. but you make a valid point. the police have so far trumped the protesters. they were able to get mr. trump in by a side door, which was by pre-arrangement, so the police had really preplanned better than the protesters had. but, you know, we're hearing terms, we're hearing phrases within the last hour of some groups, of half a dozen different groups, maybe one or
two individuals in the group, saying we will use any means necessary to disrupt these proceedings. many times that's just people who are anxious, who are upset, for a lot of different reasons they can use inflammatory language, like they accuse trump of using in his own way. but now secret service, they've got to get trump back out of the hotel again. you know, the protesters are interesting. sometimes these groups and it's a bad analogy, but it's like when my kids were young and they played soccer, whichever way the ball went, everybody rant th th way. they didn't cover the field, they just went after the ball. trump is the ball. if anyone here is on their cell phone or any other type of communication, that trump has gone left, right, he's in the front, the back, you'll see the protesters move back and forth. the police have to counter this and sometimes it's like a chess
game. sometimes they might plant false information, trump's going to the left, all the protesters move to the left, the police move to the right, take him out the door. so it's always this chess game in these type of civil eye wouldn't say civil disorder, civil protests that's going on by these few hundred individuals right now. but as you and i know, it only takes one person to make a mistake, throw a rock, hit a police officer in the head and the whole mood changes. >> clint van zandt watching the rest of us. stand by. we still have steve patterson outside, monitoring the situation with the protesters. but we'll keep the images of the protesters outside the convention center on your screen and we'll go back inside now. donald trump delivering his speech now to the california state republican party. he's now talking about, i believe, the border fence and immigration. listen in on what he's saying right now. >> no republican will go to
michigan to campaign. republicans will never beat hillary in florida. i will. you saw i won florida in a landslide. i'll win pennsylvania. most republicans will never win -- probably i don't think any republican can win pennsylvania. so i'm going -- and this is, you know, they cover this. and now by the way, the polls are coming out where i'm leading or even with hillary. and look, i had this, listen to this. 55,000 negative ads as of two months ago, now it's up to exactly 60,000 negative ads. then i watched kasich, he does great against hillary. he doesn't have one ad. give him an ad and he goes down like a rock. same thing with cruz. but now the polls are coming out, now i'm even. one has me up. i don't want to be up right now, this is going to be, i just look
so forward to doing it. you know, i started with 17 people. right? 17, actually, 18, if you include gilmore. [ mild laughter ] did anybody get that? let's say there were 18. there were. 17 people i had to beat. when i first came in, the geniuses back here, brilliant guys, they get paid for knowing nothing. so they'd say, krauthammer, he won't run. how about this karl rove, is he the dumbest human being on earth? he still thinks romney won the election, i'm telling you. romney won. remember him? no, no, romney one, he's five million votes behind. he'll make a come back. we're up to 98%. no, no, we're going to win.
you got to go the other way, folks. they're leading you into a bad desert. but we're going to win. and the truth is, we're going to win in a way nobody's seen before. we're going to be so strong, we're going to be so smart. again, ideally, we'll be together. i think i will win even if we're not together. there are some people i honestly don't want their endorsement, i just don't want it. i've watched all my life as a politician, they just kill each other, right? they hate each other with a passion. they say the worse things about each other. they say things that you could never say and recover. and one loses, one wins, and then they say at the end, i want to congratulate jim, he ran a brilliant campaign, and i will be behind him 100%, he's a great person, a great man. and i'm saying to myself, they were saying the worst things. well, things get said. here's the difference. like with ted cruz. he's a wonderful guy. if he wants to endorse me,
that's fine, but i don't care. does that make sense to you? a guy like bush yesterday on television, knocking me. does he want to endorse me? who knows. i don't care. it's not going to have any impact on whether we beat hillary clinton. but most of the party have to come together. the smart people in the party have to come together. and we have smart people. we have really smart people. [ applause ] so we're going to hopefully close this thing out fairly soon. i think that, you know, now that we cracked the 1,000 number, which is great, right? it's great. it's interesting, though, i'm up by 400 or so delegates. i'll be up by more than 500 when it's over, and we'll be up by five million votes. okay? and we're going to break -- this coming week, we break the all-time record and by probably four million votes. nobody's ever seen anything like this.
it's a movement. it's a great movement. many, many people have come onto the republican side. many, many people. it's something that they're talking about all over the world. i've been on the cover of "time" magazine numerous times this year, all because of the movement, not me. it's because of the movement. and what's going to happen is going to be so special. we have to come together, we have to pick our nominee. we have to go out and do what we have to do. and i'm telling you, you are going to have an unbelievably good result in november. i started with 17 people -- governors, senators, people of accomplishment, some people of great accomplishment and every week, boom, boom, boom. and believe me, i knocked them off. i knocked them off. and every week, boom, we're down to 16. we're down to 14. we're down to 12. we're down to 11. and then i'd get 11 people and i'd win a state, and i'd have 37% of the vote, with 11 people.
and these morons would say, but he didn't break 50. how the hell do you break 50 when you have 11 people and they're governors and senators? and now i'm breaking 50 by -- you know what, i probably would have had 80 if you gave me the most popular guy out of the 11 or 14 that are left, give me the most popular person and i probably would have had 80/20. but you can't do it when you have that many people. so now, even though we have three, we're into the 60s. that's sort of an amazing number. but i just want to tell you, you people have been fantastic. on june 7th, you have a big, big day, because the world is going to be watching. the world is watching pretty much every tuesday. and this next tuesday in indiana, where i'm going now, is going to be a biggie. but i will tell you, and those people are incredible people. and they want to see -- really, they want to see something that's going to be -- they want
to see victory. they want to see bobby knight. you know, they want to see victory. that's why it was so great getting his endorsement. because i love people that win. and we're going to start winning again. we don't win anymore. and by the way, i can add something. the republican party in a presidential sense doesn't win anymore. you pick your standard cookie cutters, i can tell you already, just give me the name of the person and i'll tell you exactly what states he's going to win and what states he's going to lose. i'm different, because i'm going to win states that nobody else can. and when i can focus on hillary, as i say, crooked hillary, when i focus on hillary, she'll go down easier than any of the people we just beat. so i just want to thank everybody. i know they're waiting. they're going to take me under a fence, through a field -- [ laughter ] you have no idea the route they
have planned for me to get out of here. but i love you folks, and jim, i want to thank you, and joel, everybody, i want to thank you all. thank you, folks. go out, remember, june 7th, thank you, everybody. thank you. ♪ >> all right, donald trump there finishing up his remarks to the california state republican convention. trump hardly -- the only speaker at this event. he's not the only presidential candidate speaking for that matter. by trump standards that was a fairly short speech, probably because they are on a tighter schedule there. bad form to show up at an event like that and go long. you heard trump touching on many familiar themes. he did allude to the tense circumstances outside of the convention hall. he needed to go to a side entrance, a back entrance to get around the large protests taking place in the front of the building. he showed up and said it was not the easiest entrance he's ever
made. you watched him, if you were with us, you watched him and his motorcade being redirected to the back of that facility. he then touched on, as we said, familiar themes, talking about the process, the process of this republican nomination fight. the way the delegates are given out in certain states there, talking about how he believes it's a rigged process. specifically mentioning pennsylvania earlier this week, a state, pennsylvania, where trump won that primary handily. although most of the delegates are not automatically going to be his at the national convention. you're seeing now scenes live from outside this convention hall where trump was just speaking. he's going to have to make his way outside. this is where he entered earlier. this is the back of that facility. we will see if there are any issues getting him out of that building. we are going to check in with steve patterson who has been on the ground outside the convention all, where the protesters are. so steve, trump has finished up inside. anything now taking place
outside? >> reporter: steve, you mentioned it was a difficult process for trump to get inside and they're trying to make it a difficult process for him to get outside as well. want to show you back to where the crowd is now gathered here. obviously they know the moment that that speech ended, because they started moving. so what they've done, they moved once again towards the entrance. looks like toward the lobby of the hotel. i'm not sure if they are confident that he's going to come out this way or they're just trying to see any action they can to draw any sort of confrontation, but that's sort of been the m.o. of several people in this crowd, to go where the action is, or to create it on their own. so they were standing towards the back entrance, where they had realized after it was too late that trump had come in, and then once the speech had gone on, they had moved several times to figure out where he was going to come out. they've congregated, some very
peacefully, others looking for trouble. so they've continued to move towards the entrance of the hotel, trying to get a glimpse of trump or any supporters that come out at this point. steve? >> you see it looks like secret service agents, i believe this is the back entrance, side entrance where donald trump entered earlier, his motorcade pulled up on the left. we saw trump surrounded by a number of, i guess secret service agents, make his way inside. i don't see any signs, and of course our shot, there are some limits here, but i don't see any signs of protesters around the side entrance. we'll see if trump emerges from here. ali vitale is inside for us right now. set the scene for us. what's going on inside that convention hall? >> reporter: it seems like as he spoke, the crowd did seem to warm to him a little bit. >> ali, sorry, i'm cutting you
off. there he is. we see him now in our overhead shot, donald trump exiting. we see trump there with the secret service around him, quite a detail there, making his way out. this is the same way he came in earlier, not seeing any signs of protesters there. we're just going to watch as he makes his way back to his motorcade again. it was about half an hour, maybe 40 minutes ago, we saw donald trump's motorcade redirected to the side, to the back of this facility, he walked in, the protesters out front, some of them were clearly caught off guard by that, telling our reporter steve patterson out front that they had tried to keep donald trump from speaking to, try to shut down at least this portion of the event, but donald trump did manage with the help there of authorities to make his way in. and you see, again, he's retracing his steps here, sort of an extraordinary maneuver here that they had to make to get him in and out. obviously, this is not the way you would plan it if you had
your drothers, but this is what trump and what the secret service have been forced to resort to, again to stay away from the protesters. you see he's back now at his suv. so as trump gets into the suv and it looks like, will make a clean get-away, as they say. steve patterson, let's check in with you. trump is now in the suv on his way out of here. do the protesters know that he just left? >> from our vantage point, no. donald trump gave the protesters the slip on the way in, and it looks like he's going to do it on the way out. again, there's a significant group gathered over here, near the entrance of the hotel, that's where they've chosen to kind of make their last stand. but i don't think they've chosen the right location. that doesn't mean they will not instigate something while they're over there, because what they want to do is draw confrontation. we've heard that from several members of the crowd. but again, no sight of trump from our vantage point.
it doesn't seem like they know where he is at all at this point. >> and as we say, there goes the suv, the motorcade, they are now pulling out. donald trump made his way into the facility without encountering the protesters, gave his speech, made his way out without encountering the protesters and now you see that car, that suv on its way out of there. again, this is just outside of san francisco, where this is all taking place. this is near the san francisco airport, that's the california state republican convention that's taking place inside. and donald trump now -- you see the traffic, it is california, afterall, you see the traffic in the other lane in the other side, but there is no traffic on this side. ali vitale, we cut you off a minute ago when donald trump emerged from the side. but tell us what it was like inside. we saw the protests outside.
what was the reception like inside the convention hall for donald trump. >> reporter: we heard inside trump making more of his broadening the gop non-picks. he said he's going to be able to win states that the republican party has not thought about winning before. he cites pennsylvania. today he talked about beating hillary clinton in florida and even putting new york on the table. now, those are things we've heard before, but it's interesting he made the pitch to that room. what else was interesting, was the fact that he said that he thought ideally we'll win together as a party, but he thinks that we'll win even if we're not together. kind of an odd message when you're speaking to a room full of republicans who are looking at someone who calls himself the presumptive nominee and is saying that even if there's not unity within the party, he still thinks that we're going to win and he's the man to broaden the map. so seemingly a conflicting message from what i thought we were going to hear.
definitely interesting. but you saw the crowd respond to him a little bit tepid at first. there were crickets in the room as he started talking. then he made his classic jokes, going after ted cruz and john kasich, they started to warm. and he left the room to applause, making a joke about the route they had planned for him which you saw him execute. steve? >> ali vitale, inside the hyatt, near the san francisco airport. and again, on the left side of your screen, that's terrorism's motorcade. they are now a fair distance away from that hotel. donald trump now far away from there after giving his speech. you can see the protesters still gathered on the right side. chuck todd joins us now. i think mark halperin was making this point a few minutes ago, but in many ways, this may be a preview of donald trump as the republican nominee. a lot of political events for the rest of this political calendar. >> no, that's what i think we are getting a taste of what it's
going to be like. on the one hand, there's always protesters that come along with any polarizing political figure in our country. but obviously, with trump it goes into an nth degree. now, let's remember, this is california. i have a feeling that trump will get a lot of protesting in california, the largest group of mexican americans, more than any others that he has disparaged more than any other group. so i think that -- so i'm not surprised that he's going to have a lot of protesters when he shows up in california. so i have a feeling, the next month you're going to see this. once june 8th comes along, steve, we're not going to see him land in california for the rest of the campaign. because i think california, uniquely so, will be a magnet for protests if he starts campaigning there. >> i think too, it does raise the question about the republican convention. we've been so fixated in the political press about what's going to happen inside that hall if there's a contested
convention, an open convention and there might be chaos there. but outside the hall, it seems now protests accompany these national conventions, no matter who the nominee. but if it's donald trump, could be times ten. >> could be. i always find it rather silly. they literally now -- convention planners in both parties, here's the media tent. here's the delegate parking lot. here's the protester area that people can go. and they try to create a protest area where people stay behind a fence and chant whatever they want to chant and hold up their signs and be polite protesters. i don't think we're going to have that kind of polite protesting in cleveland. i think it's gonna be a lot different. so you're right, i think it's gonna be something that perhaps we haven't seen in a couple generations. >> and how do you think this all plays politically? we're talking about donald trump and he emerges as the nominee,
with some of the worse numbers for a general election candidate we've ever seen. just keep an eye on the left side, it does seem there's a bit of a scuffle playing out there, these are protesters outside of that hotel, the police there too, we're keeping an eye -- let me go to steve patterson. steve, what's going on there right now? >> reporter: -- the police pushed back. and it looked like one person maybe stepped over the line. but again, here we go again, we're seeing just that spark. now protesters flooding into that area. so once something happens, more people hear about it and they start rushing towards the area, only increasing the tension here. so here come literally all the protesters that were near the front of the hotel, moving towards the back of the hotel, where the police have gathered, for what looks like another confrontation. if we turn and pan back over to
that police line, we'll see some people with their hands up. it looks like a protest that they've started against the police. you have to remember here too, this is california. this is southern california, but there are a lot of hostilities, a lot of tension with the police. ali vitale was telling me, she was at the event last night, that's where a lot of the anger was directed. not only at the politicians and trump and cruz, but at the police here in the state of california, and centrally in los angeles, but also, everywhere. so we continue to see the tension as the cops push the line back towards us. send it back to you. >> and, steve, your audio might have been cut off at the beginning. so i apologize if you already said this. but i want to be clear. these protesters, some of them were trying to keep donald trump from exiting this hotel. clearly they weren't able to do that. has word spread to them that he's gone, that he's no longer around there? >> that is not clear. some of them, they obviously
knew when the speech wrapped. because we saw a whole wave move towards the entrance of the hotel. they knew when the speech was over, they knew when he was arriving, but that police line kept them sectioned off so far that they couldn't get there. but it appears like, i don't think they care. it's been a while since we've been able to get inside the crowd and talk to the people, but from the people that are left here, some of them just really want to instigate something. they want to confront somebody that is coming to this convention and some of them have set out to do that, and they haven't been successful, and they want to. >> steve patterson, thanks for that. the protests outside the california republican convention on the left side of your screen. on the right, you continue to watch donald trump's motorcade. it's made its way to the airport. it's been about ten minutes left
since then. what do you think the effect is overall for donald trump when he's met with protesters like this? on the one hand, i guess it speaks to how bad the poll numbers are for him. on the other hand, i was wondering, listening to the interviews with some protesters, talking about trying to shut him down, keep him from speaking at all, if that generates a little bit of sympathy for him. agree with the guy or not, he should be allowed to speak? >> i think this is one of those double-edged swords. it certainly helps trump solidify support within the republican party. the more protesting there is, this is a way, certainly it doesn't cost him the support he already has. that said, i think these protests, the bigger they get, who they are, and their messages, that does hurt him with key swing voting groups. you know, when you look at where he has got to figure out how to improve. he's not going to improve that
much on hispanics, i think we know that. but in order to get himself into position to win, he's got to not just perform as well as mitt romney did among suburban women, he's got to do even better than mitt romney did. and i think that's the audience here. how do they react to this? the more polarizing trump is, is that something that many suburban voters who maybe are soft -- maybe soft leaning republicans on fiscal issues, just find themselves aren't comfortable with it, or aren't comfortable with trump. and i think that's where -- it's with that specific constituency group in the suburbs, how they react to this. and i think that so far, we can tell they've reacted negatively to the polarizing of trump. >> chuck, thanks for that. donald trump wrapped up his address to the california republican convention. lots of protests outside. we'll keep watching the
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to the california state republican convention. there were large protests outside that building, where the speech was given. some of the protesters wanted, they said they wanted to keep him from getting inside, to keep him from delivering that speech. donald trump, you see the scene there on the right. this is the scene from earlier outside that convention hall. protesters had broken down a barrier at one point. this is as that barrier broke earlier. this again was about an hour ago. trump arrived shortly thereafter, his motorcade was redirected to a side entrance. this is what you're seeing here. this is again, probably about an hour ago. donald trump's motorcade behind this building, behind the conventi convention hall. you see donald trump in the middle of the screen, surrounded by secret service agents. this is how he made his way in to deliver that speech. he then spoke for roughly 20 minutes to the state republican convention inside.
made a light-hearted reference at the start of that speech to his difficulties. you can see there, he had to jump down there a little bit, donald trump did, to make his way into the side entrance of that building. he joked at the beginning of his speech, that it was not the easiest entrance he ever made. then he delivered a fairly standard speech to that republican group. although, a little shorter maybe than a typical trump speech. they're on a schedule there. it's the state republican convention, speakers before him and after him. it's bad for him to go past his time. trump spoke for about 20 minutes, talked a lot about the process in this republican presidential race. talked a lot about the delegates rules, that he has been saying publicly, this has been his rallying cry, that they are rigged against him. that was his claim. it was interesting to hear him deliver that remarks to a group of republican leaders. that's what this is, the california state republican convention, telling them that their party's process is rigged against him. said that in that room a short
while ago. he then made his way out afterwards, through that same route we saw him come in. again, the protesters did not know he was there, evidently. didn't have any direct encounters with the protesters, either on his way in or on his way out. now again, you're looking at trump's jet there. this is a few miles away. this is at the san francisco airport. we watched his motorcade make its way over to this jet, took about ten minutes for them to get there. we have steve patterson who is standing by still outside the convention hall. so, steve patterson, you've been following the protesters. it's been a good 20 minutes or so since donald trump left. just set the scene, if you will, for us. >> reporter: well, we're outside the side entrance to the hotel. there's an overpass from the hotel to the parking garage. the protesters have flooded the garage, they're up above us,
pointed down to where some of the media is. and there's a large group of them in front of a police line that leads to the back of the hotel, theoretically where trump was able to give the protesters the slip in the first place. in just dipping back and other to, they don't really care that donald trump has left. the effort was for them to try to block him from going in, to try to maybe block him from coming out. to draw some sort of confrontation from the people that are inside there, that they consider to be an establishment they don't agree with. it doesn't matter that they weren't able to do that. what does matter is that their message is being put forth. and one person said, as they were screaming down towards the crowd, think of how bad this would be if donald trump was the actual presumptive nominee. how bad would this continue to be. so they would to make the point that the trump movement has been unacceptable to them, and they want to make the point that they're here to fight back against that. and they've done so, but really
by getting in the face of police officers who have formed a line, trying to prevent chaos from breaking out, but they haven't been able to prevent it from breaking out entirely. as we're seeing police barriers swarmed, media areas completely obliterated and we've seen this crowd manage to get to places that would have been dangerous for pple trying to get inside this venue. but largely, the last few hours have been pretty peaceful. people just moving as far as they can, into the faces of the police officers. again, trying to keep the piece. >> back to you, steve. >> that's an important point to stress here. there was that scene, we showed the video of it, where the barricade broke apart, where protesters surged forward. but otherwise, yes, this is important to stress right now, largely, this is a peaceful event that we're seeing. obviously a lot of strong emotions there, but other than the image you see in the box in
the lower right-hand corner of your screen, this has been a peaceful protest. katy tur joins us now on the phone. katy, you have been covering the trump campaign from the very beginning. you've been at a lot of events where there's a lot of tension inside the hall, outside the hall. when you watch scenes like we've just been watching over the last hour in california, what are your thoughts? >> reporter: well, i think that scenes like this play out when donald trump is in areas with a lot of racial and maybe socio-economic tension. we saw it a lot in the south, certainly in chicago as well and now in california. california has an incredibly large latino population. in many ways, california's economy relies on immigrant workers, undocumented immigrant workers to a degree as well, especially when it comes to the agriculture industry. so this rhetoric from the trump campaign and trump himself has been extraordinarily explosive in california since the very
beginning. every time we've seen him step foot in that state, there have been protests that have followed him. these are certainly the largest protests that we have seen in california, because this is frankly the first time that he's done either a public event last night, or a semi- public event in terms of everybody knowing about it, in san francisco today, and you're seeing these large groups of protests. everywhere you are in san francisco, there's a lot of colleges, berkeley is up there. it has a long history of demonstrations. so this would be certainly something that would bring demonstrators out. costa mesa, where he was last night, just a 2 1/2, 3 hours from the border. to some degree, it's a republican stronghold. certainly the cities are very liberal. so it's natural that donald trump would go to a place like costa mesa in orange county, where he would find a lot of republican supporters. you saw it last night, there was
a huge crowd that came to see him, a really big rally, but it's also a ton of protesters. and i think as chuck todd was saying, this is an idea of what we will see if donald trump is the nominee. this is what his general election campaign could potentially look like when he tries to hold rallies in larger cities, or at least places that are relatively close to larger cities. the candidate himself keeps talking about trying to unify the country, but the reality is, he has exposed a deep divide among the races in the country. he's exposed a deep divide among those who support the idea of immigration, and those who support the idea of more progressive policies and those who want somebody who is going to go and change washington and in the words of many supporters i've spoken to, return this country to a more, old-fashioned time. i've heard over and over again that folks would like him to return it to the 1950s, that
they feel like he's more of a 19th century, or 20th century president, and all the undertones that may come with those sort of statements. so donald trump has a long way to go in order to find a way to ease those tensions when it comes to what he has said in the past. either be it on mexican immigrants crossing the borders or banning all muslims. or the comments against women. he has certainly made a number of enemies for himself in this country. but so far, when it comes to the republican base of support, he has some unprecedented levels of unfaltering loyalists who believe that he is the only one that's gonna change things. and the convention itself, regardless of whether there's an open convention, i think we can expect to see a large-scale protest as well, on both sides of the aisle, in a way that we probably haven't seen in
decades. >> right. msnbc's katy tur, and yes, that's right, the issue here of how much more of this we'll see if donald trump is the nominee this summer, this fall. more immediately, there is the question, the challenge for donald trump right now, of trying to close out this republican primary process and win the nomination. california, a key state for that. and to that point, there was a moment there we were showing inside the conventional, just before donald trump spoke, i believe it was the chairman of the california state republican party, who was basically announcing to the audience that donald trump had made his way inside, was making his way to the podium to speak and essentially this was a victory for everyone in the room. at least that is how it seemed to be treated. that donald trump had missed the protesters and made his way in to speak. so it raises the immediate issue of whether protests like this help donald trump with his first goal, which is to get the nomination of the republican party. then of course if he does, he will have some significant issues in trying to broaden his support and actually win the
general election. again, you're looking at scenes on the right side, this is what played out a short while ago, outside the convention hall, near san francisco, where donald trump just spoke to the california state republican party. on the left side, that's donald trump's jet right now at the airport in san francisco, getting ready to take off from there. we'll squeeze a quick break in and continue our coverage right after this. i'm going 100 miles per hour. a branch catches me here. you think that stopped me? i was about to be the first 3rd grader to jump the cook countcreek. jump 50 feet over the rapids and i crash land. mom patched me up. check out my scar. there's nothing there! you didn'tump the creek!
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and you really have to pick somebody that knows what's happening, that's really, really good. i accept the position. [ laughter ] >> donald trump earlier this hour, addressing the california state republican convention. that was the scene inside. the scene outside, and you're looking at live pictures now of ongoing protests, that's outside the convention hall, near the san francisco airport where donald trump spoke. donald trump eluded those protesters on his way in and out. there was no direct confrontation. some of them telling our reporter they had been there trying to shut this down, trying to keep donald trump from dressing the convention. on the left side of your screen, that's a life image of donald trump's motorcade back at the airport. the content of the speech, delivering a message to republicans, it's time to get on board with my campaign. what are the prospects of him
unifying this party behind him before the convention? >> it's going to be really hard for him because he's drawing protests from democrats, and that might help, but within the republican party there are a lot of folks that are maybe not loving donald trump, but becoming increasingly resigned to donald trump. and the reason he's in california, that's the delegates he needs. at the end of the day, he can't officially win 1,237 until he he gets a big haul from california. indiana's big next week, and then california in june. >> and shane, obviously, you mentioned indiana. if trump pulls out a win in indiana, it will be 35 days then till california. do you think we'll see an acceleration now and republicans rally around him and he pulls out indiana tuesday. >> absolutely. and the issue in indiana, he just won six straight states across the northeast. but indiana is not in the northeast. he's had both success and failures there. and ted cruz has put it all on the line in indiana. he rolled out a vice presidential pick. he heavily recruited the
governor. and if ted cruz isn't winning in indiana, it's going to be hard for him to make the argument that he'll have the momentum to stop trump in california and other states to follow. >> that's going to do it for our coverage this hour. i'm steve kornacki and "mtp daily" starts right now. ♪ if it's friday, it's another day of anti-trump protests and unrest. we hadn't seen it in a while. but now, is this a taste of what's to come? both in california and the general election ahead. this is "mtp daily" and it starts right now. good friday evening, i'm chuck todd in washington. a town that is getting ready for its nerd prom, but this is no prom picture here. you're looking at live pictures