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>> the next president of the united states ted cruz. >> oh, my god! oh, my god! >> did that really happen? good morning. it's tuesday, may 3rd. welcome to "morning joe." we're going to talk about that situation there. trump had a response. veteran columnist -- >> of course he did. >> that was a few days ago. yesterday -- yesterday there was trump supporters and he tried too hard to reason with them in his very special way of communicating. pulitzer prize winning columnist -- annoyed? yes. when i hear people talk like that i get annoyed. i want to lunge at their neck. >> it's let me tell you. >> exactly. you are lucky you are over
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there, eugene. washington post -- it's ann annoying! eugene robinson. and managing editor of bloomberg politics, and co-host that arrest here on 6:00 p.m. mark halperin. >> he was trying to debate a 10-year-old kid? >> we'll get to that. we have lead stories to get to, joe. >> trying to win the indiana voters -- >> you're being a 10-year-old lurching to that. you have to wait. we're going to get to all of that before you have to go! >> an icon! >> yes. >> it's not lena dunham but it's pretty good. >> it's hilarious. >> do their contracts say donald trump ever ran for president in the future they have to endorse him? the sports guys are coming out. >> i played this golf course. it's first class. it's a first class --
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>> okay. >> we have news to talk about. let's start with the headlines and we'll -- >> years ago we're giving a speech somewhere and i walk off stage and i shake his hand and he goes "you're too liberal!" . i go "great to meet you, too." >> he likes trump. you'll hear why soon. after six straight primary wins, donald trump hopes to wrack up another in indiana tonight. he's hoping to effectively close out the primary season. trump needs 46% of the remaining delegates to win a majority. >> it was amazing how it was 59 last week and he couldn't do it. but go ahead. >> something both of his opponents are incapable of getting. a new poll finds that a majority of republicans think that ted cruz and john kasich should drop out of the race. 52% for cruz. 63% for kasich. polls close at 6:00 in the state
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that spans eastern and central time. it's going to be a long, fun night. the latest poll indicates it could be an early night with trump opening up at a 15 point lead. could it be not a long night? >> yeah. >> mark halperin? >> it could be. the private polling shows a race closer than some of the public polling, but if you look at the sense of momentum and what some of the people close to the establishment said it looks like we're going it see trump win. >> guess who thinks it's going to be a late night? here is ted cruz speaking. >> we have 21 hours. i want to ask you right now donald trump and i are effectively tied in the state of indiana. it is neck and neck. >> all right response they're tied neck and neck. your info is wrong. it's tied. he just said it's tied. >> it's tied-ish.
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>> not really. >> ted cruz has a potential to win the state-wide vote, for sure, and it's winner take all by congressional district. he's strong in most of the congressional districts. >> is this race tied? >> no. i have seen no indication that the race is tied. at every indication, actually, is that trump may be. but we'll see. >> cruz has a great turn out operation. >> okay. stop it, boys. >> what are we talking about, mike? >> there's a real possibility you'll see republicans come out after tonight if donald trump wins and the race should be over and put pressure on cruz and kasich. my indication is cruz and kasich go to june -- >> do they really? >> they do. this could be a real decisive 24-hour period. >> we've been saying for weeks that indiana mattered. they could lose new york and
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alabama and alaska. >> it's a crucial state indiana was going to do it. it was going to save it all for ted cruz. if he loses there, therefore, one would think he would pull out of the race. he doesn't have a chance. >> donald trump closed out his indiana campaign last night by rolling out support from even more local sports legends. ex-notre dame coach endorsed trump. >> they're nothing but winners in indiana. the i played his golf course and stayed in his hotel. he does nothing but first class in everything. he wants this country to be first class as well. >> and trump -- >> all right. >> so much to get to. played his golf course and it's first class. he wants the country to be first class. >> i'm telling you, that's how people think. >> but, mika, it's not just lou
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holtz, it's also -- >> i know! i've been trying to tell people this for about six months. it's crazy. everyone looks at his sort of what he's built and his first class aspect of it. >> also, in indiana. you've got phelps. >> that's amazing. >> let's go. trump took others -- >> i'm big in north indiana. >> gary, indiana native hammer williamson introduced trump. former perdue university basketball coach gene caddy and digger phelps fired up the crowd last night. where trump talked about immigratio immigration. >> i've never seen a guy lie like that. he even said "donald trump will
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not build a wall. he said he's not going build the wall." not build the wall? we're building the wall! i have lying ted. trump said he's not going to build the wall. i think he's crazy. i think he's crazy. lying ted does not have the temperament to be doing this. he's choking like a dog because he's losing so badly. we have to put him away tomorrow, folks. we have get out and vote. >> that was descriptive. maybe not a nice thing to say. >> he's supposed to write with -- that's what -- and, you know, lying ted. >> lying ted. put him away. >> like a dog. >> i'm with melania. that's nice. >> we can show you choking like a dog and you can find your own words instead of saying "choking like a dog."
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here is ted cruz leaving a campaign stop in indiana yesterday. about a half dozen donald trump supporters were across the street holding signs and crying out "lose with cruz." that's when cruz passed by the motorcade and went over to speak with them. >> don't do it! >> why would you do that? when you do that, this happens. >> i'm running to be everyone's president. >> we don't want you. >> what? you're entitled your view, sir. you're well respected. >> dot math. do the math! we asked kasich to drop out. it's your turn. >> the wall that donald told the new york times editorial -- [ yelling ] >> sir -- >> take down isis, you'll take down the -- i'm not yelling. >> where is your goldman sachs jacket at? your wife works there? >> actually i was supported
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by -- all over the country. our average contribution is $60. donald trump is deceiving and playing you for a chump. sir, america is a better country -- >> without you. >> thank you for those kind sentiments. let me tell you, i've treated you respectfully the entire time and a question everyone here should ask -- >> are you canadian -- >> do you want your kids repeating the words of donald trump? >> it went on for about a minute. [ laughter ] >> what is wrong with you? >> are you canadian? mark halperin, what is he doing? >> i've never seen anything like that. >> are you canadian? >> right at the end of the rubio campaign when he went for like a whole different -- >> it went longer -- >> oh, yeah. >> you don't walk over to
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protesters. and the minute the guy started doi doing -- you leave. >> that's the problem with the shakespea shakespeareian pauses. >> are you canadian? >> that will be on howard stern by thursday. >> okay. why did he do that? >> trying to shake things up because the dynamic is not great. literally nevada seen a candidate do like that. i've seen people be heckled and like joe the plumber but you walk away. what he was he going to win the debate with his princeton debate skills? he's throwing everything against the wall. >> we have more. you mentioned this 10-year-old. >> yeah. >> because you have a mind like
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a 10-year-old, you want to see this. this is ted cruz. >> that's hateful. let's talk about [ long pause ] this. >> apparently there's a young man that is having some problems. thank you, son. i appreciate your sharing your views. you know, one of the things that hopefully someone has told you is that children should actually speak with respect. [ cheers and applause ] in my household, when a child behaves that way, they get a spanking. >> spanking. >> no! >> this is like -- >> hey! hey! >> justi escorted a 10-year-old out? >> this is what you wanted to stop trump? you thought this a would stop trump. think about this. why? >> let's go back to mark
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halperin. mark halperin politics 101 do you escort a 10-year-old kid? >> i don't think you go negative on the 10-year-old. what is wrong with your party? >> go ahead. >> just -- it just -- it's not -- this is not cresting well for the cruz campaign. fighting with a 10-year-old, fighting with the heckler. you know, i don't get -- i don't get the whole thing. >> at least -- >> i will say this -- >> at least it wasn't -- >> nobody fell off the stage. >> i would not be surprised -- >> not true. >> i don't know if the 10-year-old was -- i wouldn't be surprised if it was mischief not being created in a not organic fashion. >> do you think the 10-year-old boy is a roger stone flunky? >> jimmy fallon called donald trump's grandson -- a new poll finds that republican voters more about a gimmick.
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83% that cruz announced carly fiorina as a way to revitalize the campaign. 16% say she's the best vice presidential candidate. not sure why he needs to make an effort. ted cruz is doing just fine by himself. on sunday ted cruz's running mate carly fiorina introduced cruz -- >> is she okay? >> she turned and stumbled off the stage. is she okay? cruz's wife extended her arm toward fiorina and an aid walked over to help her. she's okay. ted cruz, perhaps not noticing -- because ted cruz tends to think about ted cruz and he's caught up in his oratory and handshaking and the firmness and the connection that is so fake that he has with people that he kept on shaking hands. >> heidi was worried. >> heidi was sort of concerned. >> oh. let's help her. >> she's smiling so she must be
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okay. >> cue donald trump. >> she fell off the stage the other day. did anybody see that? and cruz didn't do anything. even i would have helped her. okay. >> they showed it me and i said that's cruel. she fell off -- she went down. she went down a long way, right? and she went downright in front of him and he kept talking. that was a weird deal. >> and i thought he wouldn't have anything to talk about. >> the whole thing -- >> i mean, he's right about this. this is a weird deal. the whole thing. >> trump loves doing play-by-play of the other campaign. loves it. >> how could you not? how could you not when his own party props up that to bring him down. it's pathetic. >> here is a question we have. we had jeb bush, marco rubio, scott walker, chris christie,
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who was a great candidate in new hampshire. one of the best. carly had a strong run. you go down the list of candidates and you really wonder how did we end up here with donald trump versus ted cruz? i thought it was trump versus bush or trump versus walker or trump versus marco. >> christie. >> trump versus chris christie. at one point trump versus carly. but trump versus ted cruz. a guy ill equipped to be in the position he's in. >> voters want fundamental change and an interesting candidate who looks like more of the same. >> ted cruz became a candidate of the most ideological conservatives, i think. and he established that himself in that lane. >> was it a game break toward cruz toward the end here? just sort of the party in
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general. the way they were coordinating things. weren't they trying -- wasn't there a subtle rigging of the game? >> they could have picked john kasich at one point. by the way, here is a national poll. yes, donald trump's ceiling 56%. you only had two choices. you had ted cruz or john kasich. and for some really weird reason -- >> voters chose him. >> i'm talking about the republican establishment. for some bizarre reason the republican establishment did not select a guy who was the first budget chairman in a generation to balance a budget, the first budget chairman since the 1920 to balance the budget four years in a row, a successful two-term governor of ohio, the most important swing state for republicans to win. and they go with toded cruz instead of john kasich. >> as if john kasich is not a conservative. john kasich is a sevenconservat >> almost nobody from the establishment endorsed him. >> what is the establishment? >> it has a lot of guys and
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women a lot of money who constantly pick losers. >> losers. >> these people have wasted billions of dollars -- >> on losers. >> over the past 12020 years to losers who they are more comfortable with. >> you put out a definition why donald trump -- >> by the way, i'm not calling ted cruz a loser personally. i'm saying these -- this republican donor class has spent 20 years selecting losers. people that lose campaigns because they would rather have somebody they're comfortable with than somebody -- >> i think there's a washington post column here. why don't you write that? >> okay. >> you just laid out a definition of why trump is well ahead since the race. reasoning against the republican establishment who always picks losers. keeps the race with the best show october and november. he says something different nearly every time he takes the podium. it's not a set speech the way
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the other guys have. he's an outsider. people are looking for that. >> there's another reason, too. that trump's policies are different. i mean, his policy on i free trade is different. his policy on entitlements is different. >> there are more feelings. >> no. i don't think you can under estimate that working class voters actually have -- >> exactly. >> working class voters. everybody mocked and ridiculed trump's speech last week. the "america first" speech. working class workers in indiana i guarantee the majority -- why are we helping these countries that don't help us? military families. you know, what was the establishment offering to military families? more repeated deployments to hell holes around the world. and trump is offering something different. he is offering things that are different. >> we can sit here and snicker at the slogan on the east coast and the west coast the elites and everything.
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"make america great" it resonates. >> front page of the washington post trump bid raises prospect of nasty general. >> it's going to be so ugly. let's not go there if we don't have to. still ahead on "morning joe" live to jaindiana as voters hea to the polls in today's primary. and up next. >> in 16 separate polls, i beat hillary in the fall. you might say why do you win in the fall -- [ applause ] why do you win in the fall but you don't win now? because i'm not appealing to people's anger. well, it is now. 17 polls in a row as john kasich was quick to update on twitter. we'll talk to tom of real clear politics. why gop voters don't seem to care about those could be-november numbers. here is bill karens with a check on the forecast. >> hey, bill. >> what is going on? >> we got nothing but cold and
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rain. >> remember how beautiful march was? yeah. april was a little -- may started off nasty. this morning is not any better. >> we're getting pay back. >> we are. it's mother nature's way. maryland talking about pay back. yesterday the sun came out and warmed up and then the hailstorm began. this hit all through virginia and maryland. potomac it was golf ball-sized hail pounding the area. there was a lot of lightning this morning the storm is with us. it's a rainy morning drive from boston to i-95 to areas of north carolina where we have thunderstorms. expect airport delays from d.c. to new york. it will improve throughout the day. the rain will begin to end throughout the noon hour and start to clear up a little bit later. watch out 9 million people at risk. raleigh to fayetteville through north carolina. and the timing during the mid afternoon and clear out after that. in the middle of the country
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great. no problems whatsoever. it's north carolina we're worried about today and a rainy morning drive for you boston all the way down to washington, d.c. so at least d.c. you don't have to deal with the severe weather like you did yesterday, but you can already see by those roads down there it's going to be a slow morning drive. more "morning joe" when we come back.
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he's in good shape there. we had a poll out yesterday showing about 34 points in california. >> oh, my gosh. what was that one? >> a survey usa knbc poll. we had a fox news poll come out the week before last had him up 29. he's over 50 in some of the polls. if it's anything close to that, he's going to be well above the 1237. so this is obviously cruz's last chance to stop him. even if he stop him, it may not be enough in the end. >> so john kasich 17 polls in a row has beaten hillary clinton in the general election. tell us about that. >> it's true. i mean, he's the republican that runs the best. clinton, in the polls we have now she beats trump by seven, cruz by 14 and kasich beats clinton by about seven points. he's clearly the most electable.
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that's not working in the primaries. >> why is it not working? >> i don't know. we talked about some of that stuff earlier. i mean, certainly on the trump side you talk to some of the trump folks. they think the general polls are packing lies. they think donald will do better against hillary. they believe him when he says he hasn't gotten started on her. we're in a season where the electabilitiability it hasn't been as much of a benefit. it wasn't as much of a benefit to rubio and it's not providing in lift to kasich. >> give us historical perspective at the beginning of the republican candidate. i don't remember the exact numbers but trump was upside down, like, 20 or 30 points. pretty crazy, right? >> when it started? >> yeah. >> i have to look back, joe. when he got in, he actually rose pretty quickly and managed to
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stay. you go back and look i kept saying we would reach peak trump and dip down a little bit and keep going back up. he's been pretty strong since he's gotten in. and it's been, as you -- we're talking about earlier it's been part of this has been his strength as an outsider. but it's also been, and the reason that the establishment had troubles it's been a perfect storm. ted cruz ended up in the position he's in because of his strength of his organization. none of the other republicans have that organization. and with 17 candidates, none of them wanting to get out, they sort of fell by the wayside. we're at where we're at in terms of the republican race. >> thank you so much. >> thank you very much. >> appreciate it. >> thanks. you know, the question is how does -- he's what down is he from hillary? 20 or 30 now? >> in the national polls? yeah. >> it depends on the poll. not 30 but -- >> 20. >> the question is -- if he wins
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at the end of the night, when do you start actively working on that issue? and trying to -- >> the first step is to consolidate the republican party. and the theory of the case is once he becomes the actual nominee, once he's the only one left in the race, once he consolidates republican supports it gets tighter. there's a question can you make it the last seven or eight points he would have to do? there's a lot of mechanics to work on, too. they have to hope there are more christies in the party than romneys. >> the real politics average it's only seven points. i didn't realize it was even that tight. i had seen polls that had him way down. >> no. >> so seven points is -- >> yeah. look, i think the closer we get to november, the more these polls mean something. >> right. >> they'll actually mean something when we have two
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nominees and they start -- >> and again the biggest problem we've never had before, is you look at trump and the press constantly talks about trump's high negatives. he has high negatives now. you look at hillary clinton's negatives. they don't tell that story because trump is eight or nine points higher than she is. she's in the mid 50s. that makes this race, even though that poll shows seven points, i always thought the high negatives make this race wide open. >> both have high negatives. i keep wondering what the turn out is going to be in november. given the tenor of the campaign, as we're briefly talking about. it's going to be so ugly. the two of them -- >> yeah, i guess there's a chance that overcompensating on that and ending up, you know, you've had experience running against a woman and it was complicated. i just think this is all different and it could be rough. still ahead according to
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warren buffet -- >> it's complicated. >> we are all kind of wasting our time with the race for the president. as far as the economy is concerned. we're going to debate the billionaire's comments we're going to do just fine no matter who wins the white house. >> we'll have special extended coverage tomorrow to break down the results from today's indiana primary. we're going to be on through 10:00 a.m. tomorrow morning. >> we need to get that 10-year-old kid that was escorted out. >> i feel bad for him. >> and the guy with the one-liners. >> oh, i know. >> let me explain, there are hundred of thousands of those guys. so you can go find one anywhere.
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>> sir, america is a better country -- >> without you. >> thank you for the kind sentiments. i've treated you respectfully the entire time. and a question here everyone should ask -- >> are you canadian? >> do you want your kids repeating the words of donald trump? >> don't pause! >> don't pause! >> stop the pausing! pauses that are forced like that, people will fill in with insults. >> i can tell you something -- >> don't. don't pause. >> it's not saturday night live. >> oh, my god! >> i can tell you something, you want them on your side. >> you do not want them against you. it does not work.
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>> the guy reportedly is from ohio. he was in indiana standing at cruz event with trump signs. i don't think he got there by accident. i don't think -- >> he loves america. >> i don't think you ever sent in there could possibly imagine -- maybe they have some giant ted cruz magnet. >> that's the thing. they would think nobody would be stupid enough to walk over. they are flipping the bird so what he's thinking? >> it's like astroturf and synthetic neighbors. that is the biggest -- >> they're awesome. ted cruz comes over and pauses. >> what do they do? >> incredible. >> every time he pauses. >> next week they'll be working for bernie. >> do your favorite story of the day. >> it's pretty incredible. >> it's amazing. it's amazing. >> this would be, like, if the
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media gave donald trump to america has never been west of nigh yak. i'm serious. go to staten island. they don't give a damn what we say. >> joining us now is new york times columnist frank rooney. >> you are america's treasure. >> you are. we read your piece on the air the other day "the cult of sore losers." it's so good. i was talking about brett stevens who has come on the show. has been upset -- >> about trump -- >> and us. >> did you hear about what he has to say? read it. okay. >> okay. >> the gop gets what it deserves. oh. this is not our fault. in 2014 the republican establishment is now known succeeded in securing the largest ever majority in the house since 1928. it regained a senate majority
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for the first time in eight years. these were significant political achievements which only awaited a reasonably serious presidential candidate to lead to a sweeping republican restoration. instead, ted cruz used a moment to attempt a party coup by treating every tactical or parliamentary -- >> let me say to bret stephens, amen. again, amen. >> welcome to reality. >> i hear bret stephens and the "wall street journal" editorial page credit. when ted cruz was destroying the republican party brand, they were actually saying it in real
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time. everybody else was scared. all the other republicans and conservatives ran for cover when ted cruz was burning the party down. i give them credit. >> absolutely. >> this is what has happened. >> i think brett is right. what i find fascinating now is ted cruz is looking to the establishment to save him in his fight against trump. i think that's one of the reasons he's going to be unsuccessful. his campaign is now one of incredible contradictions, including that one. >> it is. do you see cruz and kasich getting out of the race after tonight? do you think they're going to play to the bitter end? >> it's hard to see cruz getting out until someone shoves him. >> he's very unself-aware. >> it is not going to be the end of ted cruz. we're going to be reading a lot of pieces. i'll probably write one about ted cruz. >> here is the difference between marco rubio and ted cruz. unless marco picked vice president, i would be surprised if he held elective office
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again. ted cruz is going nowhere. i think you're right. i think he's going to be around. >> ted cruz, i think you'll agree, is as nakedly ambitious a politician we've seen in many years. >> that will be useful to trump. >> he's like the richard nixon. >> yes. >> john kasich we showed a 17 l poll in a row that john kasich wins a general election over hillary clinton. do the polls not matter or do they not matter to republicans? >> i think they don't matter a lot because i think when you're in this kind of -- when you're at this distance the polls don't mean as much as we would like to attribute to them. i think in a general election john kasich would be the strongest of the candidates against hillary clinton. absolutely. i think that's true. whether the numbers we're seeing are accurate, that's the question. >> even newt gingrich said he could lose or win. where do you weigh his chances? i think his chances are probably less than a third, but maybe not
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that much less. i mean, we don't know what is going to happen between now and the election. could be driven by news events. people who want the opposing party nominee to be a weak one. you don't. in a two-party country like this either candidate could win. you want the democrat or republican whom you can live with. >> can i read peter the atlantic clinton's battle plan.
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>> and what did my grandmom in georgia say? never walk into a fight with a pig in the mud. >> that's not -- >> i'm not comparing trump to a pig but i'm saying donald trump wants her to get in the mud. he wins those fights every time. ask marco rubio. >> he doesn't look extraordinary terrible as fighting as nasty as he is. his big problem when i talk to people who are pro trump they love the fact he's disruptive. he's nothing like any politician they've seen before. as soon as he gets the nomination. if he does the pivots toward the center he's destroying the part of the brand that the voters who lost him most love best. i think it's a tough balancing act he has to pull off. >> than is going to be the challenge. because he's going to pivot to the center.
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>> to the center or the left. he can run to the left of hillary clinton. >> talking about goldman sachs. >> actually, he's running to the left already of hillary on foreign policy. he's going to run to the left of hillary on trade. he's going run to the left of hillary on economic, on a lot of economics -- >> he's going to run to the left of hillary clinton. >> he doesn't need wall street. >> yeah, he doesn't need wall street. he doesn't need pharmaceuticals or hospital associations. >> yeah. the problem for him, i think, is that from my reading hillary clinton has a pretty good chance of bringing the obama coalition out to the polls. after her support among african-american voters has been huge. her support among latino voters will probably be through the roof. something we've never seen before. she can actually -- not her so much as trump can make latino voters a kind of political force in this country they haven't been before.
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>> yes. >> so that's the historic loss. i think she's got a good chance of pulling it off. >> demographics he either turns around and gets in the 30s with his panics and turns around votes, especially with women that usual they are vote for republicans, or he loses. those are the big challenges. >> stay with us. more from the exchange. much more. we're having it cut differently between ted krooufcruz and a tr supporters. it's amazing, cringe-worthy, or horrible. he keeps pausing and people keep insulting him in the pauses. it's unbelievable! we'll be right back.
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coming up at the top of the hour. you never read the comment section. don't do that. >> all right. >> and you never do what ted cruz did yesterday. confront donald trump protesters face to face. >> look at those guys. >> why would do you that? >> slowly turn around. >> it's not smart. and to allow it to go on for a long time. >> like this tease. >> plus, the election map doesn't look so hot for republicans. the washington post explains next on "morning joe." the fix is coming. i need the fix. t to record that show. (woman) now we have to wait forever to see it. (jon bon jovi) with directv, you don't. ♪ you see, we've got the power to turn back time. ♪ ♪ that show you missed, let's just go back and find. ♪
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♪ according to new reports an unusually amount of leading republicans said they don't want to be donald trump's running mate and will refuse it if he offers them a position. it's pretty rare. here is what they said. john kasich said there's no chance i would take that. paul ryan said "definitely not." chris christie said "i'll do it." cruz said "no way." chris christie said "you don't have to keep asking me. i'm in." all the responses donald trump said everyone should relax. i'm leaning toward a female vp.
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chris christie said "kristy christie at your service." i don't think so! welcome back to "morning joe." top of the hour. we have mark halperin here. eugene robinson. new york times columnist frank rooney. >> and editor of the fix of the washington post. after six straight primary wins donald trump hopes to wrack up another tonight in indiana. make or break for ted cruz. in doing so he's hoping to effectively close out the republican primary season, trump is. trump needs 46% of the remaining dell fa gaits to win a majority on the first convention ballot. >> the door is closing on john. >> yeah. a new poll finds that majority
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of republicans find that ted cruz and john kasich should drop out. po polls close at 6:00 in the state that spans eastern and central time zones. we have for you, joe, the extended version. the thing you can't stop watching. you want to stop. you want to cringe but then you can't stop. you can't. as ted cruz was leaving a campaign stop yesterday, he approached a half dozen donald trump supporters across the street. they were holding signs and crying out "lose with cruz" and "dot the math" and putting choice fingers to him. he went over to speak to him. we're going to give you the entire exchange. here you go. >> i appreciate your coming out. i think that everyone wants to be president knows that the people in the state come in front of you ask for your
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support. i'm running to be -- >> we don't want you. >> you're entitled to your view, sir. i will respect it. >> do the math. >> do the math. >> you asked kasich to drop out. it's your turn. take your own words. it's time to drop out. >> when donald doesn't get above 1237 are you going to -- >> he's going to get more than 1237. >> what do you like about donald trump? >> everything. >> everything. >> the wall. >> okay. that's the main thing. immigration. >> hold on a second. >> as you know on the wall that donald told the new york times editorial that he's not going to build the wall. [ yelling ] >> take down isis, you'll take down -- >> i'm not yelling at you. >> let me tell you -- the new york times reported the whole
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thin thing. >> career politicians -- >> i don't care, lying ted. >> career politicians have killed america. >> you are the problem. >> you are the problem, politician. you are the problem. >> politicians killed america. >> out of all the candidate, name one who had a million dollar judgment against him for -- >> name one. >> donald trump. >> so you like rich people who buy politicians? where is your goldman sachs jacket? we know your wife works there. >> i was supported by -- all over the country. the average contribution is $65$65 $60. donald trump had a judgment against him for hiring foreign workers. donald trump is deceiving. he is playing you for a chump. >> career politicians killed
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america. >> why is it the main stream media is so desperate to watch how -- [ talking over each other ] >> why is it that john boehner supports donald trump? do you agree with john boehner? >> no. >> do you agree with nancy pelosi? >> the thing is -- i believe in trump. he's the only one that puts us where we need to be. what are you doing about the second amendment? >> okay. great question. the second amendment. all right. i have defended second amendment in front of the supreme court of the united states. do you know that donald trump supported bill clinton's national ban on some of the most popular firearms in america. that is a fact. you go read his book where he said i agree with bill clinton. he said i hate guns. that's a quote from donald trump. i've spent 20 years fighting to defend the second amendment. i'll tell you this, sir. if donald trump becomes president, he's said on the supreme court he's going to cut a deal with chuck schumer. he said it in two debates ago
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which means he's going to put a liberal on the supreme court and take away your second amendment right. there's a reason why gun owners of america endorsed me in the campaign. i defended it. while donald trump is a new york liberal who will take away your second amendment rights. in man is lying to you and taking advantage of you. and i would encourage you, sir. look, i appreciate your being out here speaking. if i were donald trump, wouldn't have come over and talked to you. know what i would have done? told the folks go over and punch those guys in the face. that's what donald does to protesters. >> yes. >> i think he's -- >> lying like you always do. >> stop. what word did i say about the lie? >> about donald telling people to punch people. >> let me ask you, sir. go home and google "donald punched in the face protester." this is on national television. you can watch the facts of him standing at the podium saying "punch that guy in the face."
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he said i'll pay your legal fees when you punch him in the face. there's a problem that donald trump accused everyone in this race of being a liar. donald cannot tell the truth in one minute. >> you'll find out tomorrow. >> indiana don't want you. >> sir, you are entitled to have your rights. [ yelling ] >> sir, america is a better country -- >> without you -- >> thank you for the kind sentiments. i have treated you respectfully the entire time, and a question that everyone here should ask -- >> are you canadian? >> do you want your kids repeating the words of donald trump? would you be proud if your kids came home yelling and insulting? let me give you an example of donald's problems with the truth. yesterday he was on national television, he was asked about
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his support from mike tyson, a convicted rapist. his response is "ted says tyson is a rapist. that's why we call him lying ted." mike tyson served three years of rape in the state of indiana. donald screams "it's a lie to say mike tyson is a racist." facts matter. truth matters. >>. [ inaudible ] women and children. >> you say carpet bomb women and children. that's what you're going to be doing -- >> let me respond to you. it's interesting you added women and children. your candidate, donald trump, came out and said he would order our military to kill the women and children, the wives and children of terrorists, which is a war crime. when he was asked in the debate what about when soldiers don't want to commit a war crime. he's the one who said women and children. i said i'll tell them and they'll obey me. a president who thinks he's going to order american soldiers
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to commit war crimes doesn't respect. i said we're going to carpet bomb isis and target the terrorists, take out their infrastructure and their command and control, take out their oil refineries. nobody would target women and children except for a bully like donald trump. sir, i respect your right to speak, but i'm going to say in america we are a nation that is better than anger and insults and cursing. i believe the people of indiana have the common sense of good judgment -- >> vote trump! everybody vote trump! >> thank you. >> work out for him? have you seen anything like that? >> are you canadian? every time you pause on the show. >> i've been trying to tell you about the pauses for eight months. >> are you canadian? >> i've never seen anything like it in my whole career. i don't know what he thought he was going to get out of it. clamatic moment where the guy
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said "you're right. i'm not for trump anymore." >> it was. it was like a -- >> horror show. >> he couldn't stop himself. he couldn't help the debate, as if he were still on the, you know, debate team he was on princeton or whatever it was. the question everyone here should ask "are you canadian"? this election makes me want to be canadian. watching that i want to be canadian. >> yeah. >> just horrible. >> and mark halperin said he's never seen anything like this before. where a guy goes over there and walks into abuse. and then i guess escorted a 10-year-old boy out. >> the other day. different event. >> a kid that was heckling him. the campaign has fallen off the rails for ted cruz like nothing i've seen. >> it's desperation, right. it's the same thing that drove
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the kasich crew alliance. you know, it's the same thing with we're going pick a vp. mark is right. i think the only way you can justify it is that he was looking for a big moment, right. he can't get one against donald trump. trump won't debate him. he's looking for a way to draw the contrast. to get in the extended debate. you're in extended debate with someone who doesn't play by the same rules. in a way it's the metaphor for the entire race. ted cruz is playing -- well, sir, i hope you would be respectful. this guy doesn't care. he has nothing to lose. he's a guy holding a trump sign. he's not running for president. it's a metaphor for the whole race. the idea that ted cruz, that gene said, is going by the professional rules of debating club. another guy is like winning over the crowd like you're canadian. lying ted. you know, you're never going to win the fight. the problem is, once you're in it, you can't immediately walk
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away. bus that looks even worse. you kind of have to stay. >> but the idiot si, and i'll say that, of trying to debate them. a couple of times i would come out of the event and somebody would be there and there would be protesters screaming and yelling across the street. i would walk across and say "hey, y'all doing? good to see you." shake their hands. tell a joke. waive, turn around, and leave. >> they called you lying joe you would say this is over. >> you know i would say you're exactly right. i'm going home and going to lie down and go to sleep and turn around and walk away. i wouldn't sit there especially the question americans want to ask. -- >> are you canadian? >> just why? >> it's amazing. >> i want to read this but i want to show the little kid being escorted out. >> do we have the kid? >> yeah. >> you want to do it now? >> yeah. >> this is where the kid is heckling cruz. >> apparently there's a young
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man who is having some problems. thank you, son. you know, i appreciate your sharing your views. you know, one of the things that hopefully someone has told you is that children should actually speak with respect. [ cheers and applause ] in my household, when a child behaves that way, they get a spanking. >> there were three people, frank rooney, escorting the 10-year-old boy out. >> you are going to look like an idiot when ted cruz wins the primary and the exit polls show that the 10-year-old turned the tide. >> i don't think that's going to happen. >> called for a national spanking. >> you haven't shown the clip of carly falling. >> i don't like showing that. >> i get -- it disturbed me. >> in what sense? >> to see her fall. >> it's not nice to see her fall but it was --
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>> donald trump was talking about that. do we have that clip? >> he's very caught up in himself and his pregnant pauses and his connections with people that he would not even notice his vice presidential running mate falling off the stage -- >> heidi did -- >> six inches from him. he wouldn't notice that inside his peripheral vision. okay. okay. >> ted cruz is the most self-aware -- >> the election is not about him. it's about the country. >> i don't -- >> the 10-year-old kid -- >> he did see. look at this. he sees! he sees her. look. she fell and he turned. he saw -- there's no way -- he sees her there. he turns around. >> okay! >> what the heck? >> enough. i hope she's okay. >> she's okay because heidi -- >> there's no way -- right there. he saw her. and then he turned away and kept shaking hands. >> what is wrong with you?
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>> we need a freeze frame! >> in my home, someone gets a spanking for that. that's ridiculous. >> keep going. a little more. a little more. >> ah -- >> heidi's got it. i don't have to deal with it sprip to worry about me. >> he sees her. right there. right there. look! he thought she was okay. >> let's roll the tape now and show what he does. >> bye-bye. >> that's unbelievable. >> what does donald trump say about this? >> okay, guys. >> she fell off the stage the other day. did anybody see that? and cruz didn't do anything. even i would have helped her. okay. you showed me and i said that's cruel. she fell off -- she just went down! she went down a long way, right. she went down in front of him and he was talking and kept talking. he didn't even look like -- that was a weird deal. >> i hope she's okay. >> she was fine.
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heidi was smiling. that's okay. >> that doesn't tell me anything. those people don't seem to have any -- >> i hheidi is a great person. i would be concerned if i were, you know, carly. >> guys, that's crazy. >> we have a freeze frame. [ laughter ] >> eyes look directly! they made eye contact and she signalled she was okay and he went back to winning the primary. it was like that scene on "rocky ii." >> yeah. >> just win. >> chris? >> yeah. absolutely! >> what would you do? >> i'm still -- i watched it more times than i would like to adm admit. >> as alex said, that was when rocky was fighting inside of a boxing. but go ahead. >> that's right inside the basketball ring. i don't understand. it looks like she falls through a trap door. she's standing in the same
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place. and then all of a sudden wham! >> come on. stop this! >> ted looks at her. >> do not show this again. show it again! >> chris, you write about the republicans -- >> if clinton wins florida and carries the 19 states plus d.c. that voted for the democratic presidential nominee in each of the last six elections, she will be the 45th president. it's that -- >> thank you, guys. >> i was laughing. i'm fine now. >> if you would like, you can come do my shot there. >> what? >> they showed me i was wiping tears from my face. >> okay. >> i'm reading -- >> keep reading. -- >> an incredible piece. >> i was tearing up because it's a remarkable -- >> let me continue. thank you. it's that simple while trump's
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dismal numbers don't help matters. chris cillizza, what we learned is the republican party doesn't have to do one thing which is expand out the support among hispanics, which everybody is talking about in 2012. you have to do that with a candidate that also wins working class white voters. that's the lessen of 2016. it shouldn't be that hard. it shouldn't be that hard. because a lot of hispanics want the same thing that working class white voters want. but for some reason the republican party is so interested in playing divisive games that on the campaign trail from time to time that they lose
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his pan -- hispanic voters. republicans haven't found a candidate that can do that. >> right. that's the coalition, without question. the problem is, george w. bush gets 40% of the hispanic vote in 2004. john mccain gets 31% in 2008. mitt romney gets 27% in 2012. that's obviously not moving in the right direction. the party is, i think, today will effectively nominate someone whose campaign was animated, at least in the beginning and continues to be by a pledge to not only build a wall along the mexico border but have mexico pay for it. you know, i hesitate to draw the pete wilson in comparison with california -- >> by the way. it's a pretty damn good point. from that point forward, the republican party in california
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effectively died. >> yep. and that's the problem. one very high profile politician pushing one very high profile thing. now prop 187 went into effect. i'm skeptical, breaking news, you want to put breaking news, that the wall will get built. but point being, i still think the sort of thing that for a party that is all already struggling brand wise in the hispanic community, and really outside of whites, it's the exact -- you could argue that trump has a lot of strengths and weaknesses. it's the wrong nominee demographically speaking at the moment. >> california, frank rooney, before prop 187 it was the land of nixon. it was the land of reagan. >> yeah. and republican governors. >> yeah. a land of republican governors. >> yeah. schwarzenegger. >> we forget him. all that changed with pete wilson. >> that's right.
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>> you wonder how is donald trump going to do better than mitt romney's 27% with hispanics? >> i don't see how he does. >> why? >> because there's a record of remarks here. >> yeah. has his record of remarks hurt him in any way? >> in that voting -- yeah. >> not among republicans. >> you've actually -- i just have this gut feeling he's going to have lesser problem than you think. >> one of the big questions is how much is remembered? we're in the accelerated -- the metabolism is so fast i wonder if two months from now people will remember anything that trump said a month ago. >> when i talk to latino organizations, when we talk to random latino voters, there is a passion out there and a passion against donald trump that i haven't seen before. i think that's going to come up -- >> i've seen a different passion. yeah. >> the thing is, there's been a passion for trump among working
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class white voters, middle class white voters, some upper middle class white voters. but there's no doubt there is an extreme passion against donald trump in the hispanic community and republican, i will say, give george w. bush credit 1999 george w. bush and karl rove were telling anybody that would listen in 1999 if we don't figure out how to win more hispanic voters to our cause, we will lose presidential elections for the rest of our lives. they called it 17 years ago. it, other than george w. bush it's provenble to the case nationally every time. >> george w. bush won 40% of the hispanic vote. the 2016 nominee, trump, would kill for 40% of the hispanic vote. there's no question. mika, i think you are -- i think based on what we have seen, there's reason to be skeptical
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of almost anything sticking to donald trump. i think there's a difference between a republican primary electorate that is going to be more primed for a trump-like message. and that demographically speaking is overwhelmingly white. i know he cites statistics like i won among hispanics but you're talking about a subsection of a subsection. >> the votes or the poll results, i'm talking about things that are inexplainable. this is man who says a woman isn't a 10 unless he has certain attributes and feels strongly with women. >> that's not the case now, though. that's not the case. and here is the question. will the elective weight of the statements that have been piling on, do they continue to weigh him down among women and hispanic? he's way down among women and
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hispanics now. >> didn't he do well among women in one of the key primary states? yeah. >> surprisingly well. >> trump will lose badly if he doesn't change these things. i just think people assume he's going lay back and not try to fix it. he's going to try to fix it. maybe to be impossible but he's going try. >> nobody is saying impossible but it's an uphill battle. no doubt. >> he's going to try. when he tried to do things in his life, he's often succeeded. >> yeah. can you believe it? >> 5,000 to 1 odds. the english bookers have to pay out more $37 million even though there were like 20 bets for lester. if this was in this country, it's the single biggest sports upset and sports underdog story in a a hundred years. >> thank you. >> still ahead "morning joe."
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a half dozen protesters. i went over and communicated with them and said i respect your right to speak. even if you disagree with me. i'm going protect your first amendment rights because i'm running to be the president of everybody. not just conservatives. not just republicans. i'm running to be the president of democrats, independents, and libertarians. we have to bring this country together. [ laughter ] >> that was horrible. >> pull yourself together, scarborough. we won't tell you what mike said. ted cruz talking to hallie jackson. >> would he talk about it? why need to talk about it? haven't we seen enough. right? what is -- hallie jackson joins us now from indianapolis.
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now political contribute eric tylt -- contributor rick tyler is here. >> he dissolves. halle, what is the mood of the campaign today given the fact they're -- >> stop! stop! stop! >> hi, guys. >> train wreck. >> what is the mood of the cruz campaign today? are they looking forward to a win tonight? >> reporter: so the answer will probably be no. i think that they know that it's going to be a tough night for them. they're looking at maybe a single digit loss at this point. they look at the poll numbers from the nbc news wall street journal trailing by 50 points. it seems a wide margin according to their internals. i don't get there's a sense he's going to pull out over donald trump. i don't think cruz will drop out of the race. you talk to campaign aids and they say it would be a disservice to voters as long as
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there's a, quote, viable path. does it mean trump hitting 37? yes. you never know. you never know if trump will do something to take himself out of the race. which is why cruz wants to be the alternative and will do so, at least i'm being told, until he locks up the nomination which looks like it could happen in california on june 7th. that's the status now. i think cruz is out trying to put on a good face and try to get out the vote. they're looking ahead to nebraska and california at this point. >> so he will, regardless of the results tonight, he'll stay in the race until trump gets past 1237 or all the way to the convention? >> you know, my sense is that once trump hits 1237 cruz no longer has a viable path. that's it. it's over. at that point, inhe would get out of the race. until that happens, as one aid phrased it, it would be myopic for them to get out as long as there's a chance for cruz to
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possibly pick up the ball, if trump were to drop it. >> it doesn't make any sense for him to get out until trump at least gets 1237. thank you so much hallie jackson. >> it took us awhile to wind up. thank you. rick tyler, we're going to cut mi cut mika's mike in a second. does he continue to california until -- >> please! i want to know what is inside the candidate's head -- >> mika, stop. come on. does he go all the way to the convention regardless? >> i think donald trump managed to get 1237, he hasn't done that. he remains mathically ineligible for the nomination. if he doesn't get that number then ted cruz, my sense he'll stay in the race. as he gets the number, as hallie
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jackson said, it's over. it you get the majority of the delegates he'll be the nominee. and he'll be the nominee of the party. >> unlike marco rubio, we don't know if marco will be back. ted cruz will be around for some time. it would make sense, you assume that. it would make sense if he did -- if trump did get 1237. it would make sense for him to gracefully bow out. >> absolutely. >> and live to fight another day. >> absolutely. ted cruz has gotten six million people that voted for ted cruz. normally in this sense, you know, the presumptive nominee would lock up the election or have the majority of the delegates and we would be looking at who that is, but donald trump has not managed to do that. the other part is that, joe, as mark halperin was saying unless he has corrects the problems. one of the things hillary is doing is trying to win over
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bernie sanders voters. why donald trump is not trying to win over ted cruz voters, marco rubio voters, john kasich voters now. he talks about unity but then he said he doesn't care. he needs the voters if he has any hope of beati ining hillary clinton. i don't understand why he would continue to offend people that should be supporting him. >> that's what mark halperin was saying. that right now if he wants his disapproval to go from 65 or 67% down to 40 or whatever you've got get the ted cruz supporters on your side. the marco rubio supporters on your side. you have to move them up. it's time. >> it might be time on our clock, but donald runs his own clock. always has. it's him. all donald all the time. my question to you, rick, has to do with ted cruz. i mean, you worked for him. you know him. what could possibly prompt him -- >> thank you, mike -- >> to walk across the street and
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engage with a group of demonstrators who are clearly planted there. >> yeah. >> what prompted that? what would prompt that? >> you know, it's not the first time it's happened. i've seen him do it many times on a campaign trail, and, you know, look, it probably went on too long. he probably should have left earlier, but he has engaged people who don't share his point of view. and ted cruz, in this campaign, believes he has to convince as many people to vote for him as possible. and those people were not -- they didn't have an open ear to ted cruz. they were there to protest him there and make him look bad. that's what happened. and he walked away. but, look he's engaged in voters and people who have a different point of view. he tries to convince them. i've seen him do it dozens of times. >> all right. rick tyler, thank you. >> thank you, rick! >> all right. that was the question i wanted to ask. very politely but you did it beautifully, mike.
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don't fall for directv. xfinity lets you download your shows from anywhere. i used to like that song. okay. 37 past the hour. let's bring in kristin welker who is following the clinton campaign. hillary clinton campaigned in coal country yesterday. we got a little taste of it. it looked like they confronted her about some things she said. how did it go? >> reporter: well, mika, she was greeted by dozens of protesters when she got to an event in williamson, west virginia. things didn't get much better when she got inside. she was confronted by a former coal worker. he said he was laid off and he really pressed her aggressively on comments she made earlier this year during a town hall in which she said her policies would lead to coal lines
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shutting down and coal jobs being lost. he asked her how can we trust you when you made these types of statements. take a listen to the exchange. it's striking. >> the reason you hear those people out there saying things they say is because when you make comments like "we're going to put a lot of coal miners out of jobs." these are the kind of jobs you're effecting. this is my family. that's my future. i want to know how you can say you're going to put a lot of coal miners out of jobs and tell us how you're going to be our friend. because those people out there don't see you as a friend. >> i know that, beau. and, you know, i don't know how to explain it other than what i said was totally out of context from what i meant. i have been talking about helping coal country for a long
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time. i did put out a plan last summer. it was a miss statement. what i was saying is the way things are going now, we will continue to lose jobs. what i said was that is going to happen unless we take action to try to help and prevent it. so i don't mind anybody being upset or angry. that's a perfect right for people to feel that way. i do feel a little bit sad and sorry that i gave folks the reason or the excuse to be so upset with me. bus that is not what i intended at all. i'll be honest with you, a lot of people said it don't go to west virginia. right. you know, go to california. there are more votes there. i know my chances are, you know, pretty difficult, to be honest. i'm here because i want you to know whether people vote for me or not. whether they yell at me or not is not going to affect what i'm
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going to try to do to help. i feel like that's a moral obligation. >> reporter: important to point out the clinton campaign said they were not prepared for that question. that was an organic moment. they reiterate what you heard secretary clinton. her chances are going to be tough in a state like west virginia and kentucky where, by the way, this year alone 1500 coal miners lost their jobs. they're facing tough odds there. we continue to see secretary clinton, though, pivot to the general election. last night one of her campaign aids releasing new statistics to that effect. essentially letting us know how much they have raised off donald trump's women's card comments. i think we have a graphic of that, guys. in the last three days of april alone, they raised $2.4 million from 118,000 donors. more than 40% of the donors made their very first donations in the wake of those comments from donald trump. so if you're donald trump, that's something to be a little
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concerned about. at the same time she's got to be careful to walk a somewhat fine line. donald trump beats her among male voters. in terms of pivoting toward the general. i'm in ohio, which is a state that already voted. secretary clinton has an event here not in indiana. why? because she has started this fight for the general. back to you. >> all right. nbc kristin welker. thank you so much. >> mark halperin, another fascinating moment with hillary clinton. you can tell it was inscript - unscripted. why in west virginia? she's right. it's an uphill battle for her in west virginia but she decided to show up anyway >>well, they've got a democratic primary coming up. she wants to run up as many delegates as she can there. and the clintons would like to expand the electoral college map. bill clinton won west virginia and it used to be reliably
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democratic state. that was an uncomfortable moment because those are the kind of blue collar working class americans who will be up for grabs in a general election. >> i don't know this to be true, but it feels like usually wa ll events are kind of staged. when kristen said they were thrown off by the question, i wonder if there was a discussion after in the campaign. >> by a coal question in west virginia, i mean, you can't be thrown off by that. >> made the remarks that got so much attention. >> yeah. i don't think, you know, she was thrown off by the question. i think she probably rather expected the question. the larger point is, she was in the state speaking to people. that is a hard way to make a living. i've covered coal strikes in west virginia. i've never encountered a single miner who wants a child of theirs to have to go down into the mine.
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it's a dying business. let's face it. we're moving into the 21st century. we're not going to be doing it much long per. >> it's tough. i will tell you this, politicians get credit for showing up. >> and answering questions like that. get credit for showing up in that situation instead of walking across the street. but i think hillary clinton gets credit for going to west virginia. >> and confronting -- >> and sitting down there and being confronted bay guy who is tearing up talking about his family. nothing looks staged at all. coming up next the latest critical stop donald trump effort. if there's any earth left to scorch if indiana doesn't work. the call just came in. she's about to arrive. and with her, a flood of potential patients. a deluge of digital records. x-rays, mris.
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important. and i say -- i say what's so important in terms of the race? usually by this time it's over and it doesn't matter. but this time you folks belong where you belong. it's called importantville. right. importantville. i love it. >> i still, actually, i remember -- >> importantville. >> i still remember in my first political speech saying i still believe in a place called importantville. from importantville, usa kasie hunt msnbc contributor -- former news anchor and a man that knows indiana well. >> like the back of his hand. >> oh. >> kasie hunt in importantville, usa. what are you hearing on the ground there on primary day? >> reporter: good morning. i think you were talking a little bit about this earlier. the problem that ted cruz is having with the top trump movement and the attempts to halt trump's momentum, it's
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about ted cruz and the fact establishment just doesn't like him. and the signals that the stop trump movement are sending him is that if you lose here, that's it. we're not coming back to help you begin. we're not going to raise all the money to try to help you win in california. for example. you were talking earlier about why it came down to cruz versus trump, and i think the answer to that question is religion and religious conservatives. his organization is actually focussed a lot around churches and that extends to the voters. he's the only one who has been able to consolidate any block of the republican party. the problem when he went to try to expand it to include establishment conservatives, they just weren't there for him. they don't like him. it's been a really tough sell for the stop trump people to go around saying, hey, you should not support donald trump. you should get on board with this guy, i realize you feel like he completely screwed you over and the government shut down and all these things. that sell hasn't worked. i think if he loses here, that's pretty much going to be that.
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>> that's going to be that. kasie hunt, thank you very much. you notice she didn't say that [ pause >> so my father is from montreal. i techniquely have canadian in me. i might have gun to high school with that guy in the sunglasses at the top of the show. >> so indiana, trump gets a t trifecta of sports ledge ends supporting him there. >> the former purdue coach and the former notre dame coach and they're all role models for people in indiana. indiana is an open primary so all you have to do is be rent registered to vote.
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that tends to favor donald trump and it tends to favor bernie sanders and it's different terrain from what we saw in new york. >> what are you looking for tonight? >> i'm looking to see how badly ted cruz gets beaten. >> you say that almost with ven venom. >> listen to you. >> no, i'm looking at him. >> not with venom. we've been watching the video of him in that confrontation with the trump supporters and in that clip the longer it goes on, the more people begin to understand why senator cruz is so disliked in washington, why so many people do not like him and why he has not been able to punch through and take down donald trump. donald trump has his faults and he has his strengths, but in order to take donald trump down you have to have something to offer and ted cruz just does not have anything to offer. >> we were just talking about it before, one of the questions of this election cycle beyond trump's success is why the
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republican establishment chose ted cruz to get behind instead of john kasich, a popular two term governor from the neighboring state of ohio. >> that's a great point. and another thing there's a perception among the republican establishment that donald trump supporters are somehow stupid and you guys have explained that they're not dumb, and as with he saw from the guy at the top of the show they know the issues. they may not agree with the republican establishment, but they're not dumb. that's the big mistake that people make when they associate donald trump with the supporters. >> jonathjonathan, not only are not dumb they have great comedianic timing. >> that guy was amazing. >> are you canadian? the math doesn't add up. one more thing chris christkasi talking about evangelicals, i
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can't remember the state but donald trump won the evangelicals in many states and it goes to show how unpopular they are. >> prediction tonight does cruz keep it in single digits. >> no, it may be as big as 15 points. cruz can't catch a break as you guys were pointing out. >> double digit beat down. >> pressure after tonight for cruz not to go to california. >> wow. really? okay. >> thank you. >> thank you. >> still ahead, as we mentioned polls consistently show john kasich is the best candidate to put up against hillary clinton in the general election. why that doesn't seem to matter with republican primary voters. that still ahead. as you'll see, when shoppers add an item to their jet carts, they automatically shrink the prices of millions of other products.
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up next it's game day in the hoosier state and the runup has been nothing short of amazing. cruz tries and tries and tries to persuade a group of trump backers, why? a 10-year-old tells cruz why he thinks he sucks. we'll have that for you when we come right back.
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with xfinity x1. the same event boehner called cruz lucifer in the flesh. and we all laugh, but come on if ted cruz really were the devil i think there would be signs. the earth would open up and swallow people when he they said his name. >> the next president of the united states, ted cruz. >> oh, my god! oh, my god! >> did that really happen? good morning, it's tuesday may 3rd. we're going to take about that situation there because trump had a response. >> did cruz find a 10-year-old?
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was that yesterday? >> no, that was a few days ago. >> he found somebody else yesterday. >> yesterday there were trump supporters and he tried too hard to reason with him in his special way of communicating. pulitzer prize winning columnist -- when i talk like that i get annoyed. >> well, let me tell you. >> exactly. you're lucky you are over there eugene. washington post political analyst eugene robinson, and mark halpron. >> so he was trying to debate a 10-year-old kid. >> we'll get to that. >> he was trying to win the indiana voters over one person
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at a time. >> you have to wait. >> what about digger. >> we're going to get to all of that. >> all the sports icons. >> oops. >> indiana, do their contracts say that if donald trump ever ran for president in the future they have to endorse him? >> i played his golf course. it's first class. >> we have indiana to talk about. let's start with the headlines and then we'll begin -- >> years ago we were giving a speech somewhere and i walk on stage and i saw lou in the audience and he said you're too liberal. >> he likes trump and i'll hear why from him soon. so after six straight primary wins donald trump hopes to rack
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up another tonight in indiana and in doing so he is hoping to effectively close out the republican primary season. trump needs 46% of the remaining delegates to win the majority. >> amazing how it was 59 last week and everybody said he couldn't do it. >> a new poll finding the majority of republicans think that ted cruz and john kasich should drop out of the race. polls close at 6:00 in the state that spans eastern and central time. it's going to be a long and fun night. the latest polling indicates it could be an early night with trump opening up at a 15 point lead. could it be like not a long night? >> are we looking at an early night here? >> could be the private polling shows a race closer than some of the public polling, but if you look at the crowd size and sense of momentum and what some of the even people close to the political establishment in
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indiana says, it looks like we're going to see trump win. >> so guess who thinks it's going to be a late night? here's ted cruz speaking at his rally. >> we have 21 hours. donald trump and i are effectively tied in the state of indiana. if is neck in neck. >> so they're tied. they're neck in neck so your info is wrong. it's tied. he said it was tied, right? it's tied. >> it's tiedish. trump has the potential to win the statewide vote and then it's winner take all by congressional district. he's very strong in most of the congressional districts in this state. >> is it tied? is this race tied? >> no, i've seen no indication that the race is tied. every indication actually is that trump may be opening distance but we'll see. >> cruz has a great turnout operation. >> okay. stop it boys. >> this is so over.
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>> i don't think so. >> what are we talking about? >> there's a real possibility that you're going to see some prominent republicans come out after tonight and say this race should end. my indications are cruz and kasich want to go to june but this could be a decisive 24-hour period. >> he's been saying for weeks that indiana mattered. they they could lose new york and nevada -- >> indiana was going to do it. if he loses there, therefore one would think he would pull out of the race, he doesn't have a chance. >> donald trump closed out his indiana campaign last night by rolling out support from more local sports ledge ends. lou holtz supported trump in a video. >> they're nothing but winners in indiana. the main reason i'm endorsing
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him, i've played his golf course and i've stayed in his hotel. he does nothing but go first class in everything. he wants this country to be first class as well. >> trump -- >> hold on. it's first class, joe. he wants the country to be first class. >> plus make american great again. >> that's how people think. >> the golf course is great. >> it's not just lou. >> i know. i've been trying to tell people this for oh say six months. it's crazy. everyone looks at what he's built and this first class aspect of it -- >> i meant in indiana he has digger phelps. >> he says i'm big in north indiana. >> indiana native and football
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great former purdue university basketball coach campaigned for trump yesterday and digger phelps fired up the crowd last night by talking about immigration and -- >> every time we get him on the show. >> i've never seen a guy lie like this. i've never seen -- he even said donald trump will not build the wall. he said he's not going to build the wall. not build the wall? we are building the wall, but i got this guy cruz, lying ted, donald trump has said he's not going to build the wall. i think he's crazy. hone honestly i think he's crazy. lying ted does not have the temperament to be doing this. he's choking like a dog because he's losing so badly. we have to put him away tomorrow, folks. we have to get out and vote. >> that was kind of descriptive.
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>> you're supposed to write with bold nouns and verbs, right. you got lying ted -- >> lying ted -- >> put him away like a dog. >> i'm with melania, that's not nice. >> you can't talk about temperament in one sentence -- >> we can show you choking like a dog and you can find your own words instead of saying choking like a dog. here is ted cruz leaving a campaign stop in indiana yesterday when about a half dozen donald trump supporters were across the street holding signs and crying out lose with cruz and do the math. that's when cruz passed by his motorcade and went over to speak -- >> don't do it. >> -- with them. why would you do that because when you do that this happens. >> i'm running to be everyone's president. >> we don't want you. >> you're entitled to your views
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sir and i will respect it. >> do the math. you asked kasich to drop out and it's your turn. take your own words. >> you know on the wall that donald told the new york times editorial that he will not build a wall. >> once again, lying ted. >> sir -- >> he'll take down isis. >> i'm not yelling at you. >> where is your goldman sachs jacket. >> i am supported by 1.3 million contributions all over the country. the average contribution is $60. donald trump is deceiving. sir, america is a better country -- >> without you. >> thank you for those kind of sentiments. let me point out i have treated you respectfully the entire time and the question everyone here should ask -- >> are you canadian. >> do you want your kids repeating the words of donald
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trump? >> are you canadian. >> that's great stuff. are you canadian. >> i want more. why did you cut it off? what is wrong with you? >> are you canadian. >> what's he doing? >> i'll say two things i've never seen anything like that and it's recommend nis ent of the end of the rubio campaign. >> it went longer. >> yeah. >> you don't walk over to protesters and the minute the guy started doing like stick you leave. >> who is the guy? he's got great timing. >> that's the problem when you have the pauses. you leave room for a guy to get the question that everyone is asking are you canadian. >> that guy is not on howard stern by thursday -- >> so. >> so why did he do that, mark?
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why did he go over there. >> he tried to shake things up because the dynamics are not great but i've never seen a candidate do anything like that. you walk away. is he going to win them over with his -- >> trump supporters. >> with his debate skills. >> cruz is throwing everything against the wall he can throw. >> we've got more. we got more. you mentioned this 10-year-old. >> yeah. >> because you have a mind like a 10-year-old you want to see this. this is ted cruz and a child from sunday. >> that is hateful. let's talk about this. >> all right. apparently there's a young man who's having some problems. thank you, son. you know, i appreciate you sharing your views. one of the things that hopefully has told you is that children should actually speak with respect. in my household when a child
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behaves that way, they get a spanking. >> spanking. >> did they just escort a 10-year-old kid out? >> this is like -- >> did they escort a 10-year-old out? >> this is what you wanted to stop trump? that is what you thought would stop trump? think about this. everybody think about this. why? why in the world -- >> politics 101, do you escort a 10-year-old kid out and lecture him on the spanking. >> i don't think you get a negative on the 10-year-old. >> what is wroonng with your party. >> go ahead. >> this is not cresting well for the cruz campaign, fighting with a 10-year-old and fighting with the hecker. i will say this -- >> nobody fell off the stage. >> i would not be surprised
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if ---on if the 10-year-old was sent by the trump folks, but i would not be surprised if some of this is mischief being created in a not in organic fashion. >> do you think the 10-year-old is a roger stone flunky. >> a new poll finds ted cruz raining mate is a gimmick. cruz announced carly fiorina as a way to revitalize his campaign. 16% say she's the best vice presidential candidate. meanwhile donald trump is finding all sorts of ways to criticize ted cruz. not sure why he needs to make an effort honestly because ted cruz is doing just fine by himself. on sunday ted cruz's running mate carly fiorina was introducing cruz when -- >> was she attacked. >> she turned and stumbled off
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the stage. is she okay? cruz's wife extended an arm towards fiorina and an aid walked over to help her, but ted cruz perhaps not noticing because ted cruz is thinking about ted cruz and he's caught up in the handshaking and the connection that's so fake that he has with people that he kept on shaking hands. >> heidi was worried. she saw. >> heidi was sort of concerned. let's go help her. >> then she smiled and said she must be okay. >> she fell off the stage the other day. did anybody see that? and cruz didn't do anything. even i would have helped her okay. they just showed it to me and i said well that's really cruel. she just went down. she went down a long way, right? and she went down right in front much him and he was talking around he kept talking and he didn't look like -- that was a weird deal. >> i thought he wouldn't have
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anything to talk about today. >> this whole thing is a weird deal. this is a weird deal. the whole thing is a weird deal. >> trump loves doing play-by-play of the other campaigns. >> he does. >> how could you not? >> so here's the question we had jeb bush, we had marco rubio, we had scott walker, i could go down the list -- chris christie who was a really great candidate in new hampshire, one of the best, carly had a strong run and you go down the list of candidates and you wonder how did we end up here with donald trump versus ted cruz? i thought it was trump versus bush or trump versus walker or trump versus marco or trump versus chris christie at one point trump versus carly, but
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trump versus ted cruz, a guy il equipped to be in the position he's in right now. how did it happen? >> voters want fundamental change and they're interested in candidates who look like more of the same. >> ted cruz became a candidate of the most ideologycal conservatives. >> wasn't the game rigged towards cruz here. >> what do you mean. >> wasn't there a subtle rigging of the game. >> they could have picked john kasich at one point or ted cruz. here is a national poll donald trump's ceiling 56%. you only had two choices, you had ted cruz or john kasich and for some really weird reason -- >> voters chose him. >> i'm talking about the republican establishment. for some bizarre reason the republican establishment did not select the guy who had been the
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first budget chairman in a generation to balance a budget and balance it four two years in a row, a successful popular governor of ohio and they go with ted cruz instead of john kasich. >> it's as if john kasich is not a conservative. >> they didn't come close to picking john kasich. almost nobody from the establishment picked john kasich. >> what is the establishment. >> it's a lot of guys and some women with a lot of money that constantly pick losers. these people have wasted billions of dollars over the past 20 years giving money to losers who they're more comfortable with. >> so you put out a definition of why donald trump -- >> i'm not calling ted cruz a looser personally. i'm saying this republican donor class has spent 20 years selecting losers, people that
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loss campaigns because they would rather have somebody they're comfortable with than somebody that could win. >> i think there's a washington post column here. still ahead why electability doesn't seem to matter this year when it comes to the republican field, plus -- >> great big guy seven feet tall name is rick miller portland, oregon and he started the business. it was in basketball, but it wasn't in basketball. i figured he had to be in sports. >> the kbraimportance of being sports. >> where did we get that? >> mitt romney. >> we're going to dig into the history of famous sports and their impact on campaigns. >> it's not here in america. >> no. >> one of the best guys to follow on twitter.
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i think a lot of the young people that are with bernie sanders will come over on my side because they want jobs, they see what's happening and bernie sanders and i agree on one thing, trade, that we don't know what we're doing on trade. the difference is i'll make great deals and he doesn't know what to do. i'll make great deals out of it. the people that are with bernie sanders, the young people i really believe they're going to come over and vote for me. >> joining us now from chicago the co founder of real clear politics tom bevin. what are you looking at in terms of the race here? is there any way that trump doesn't take this all the way through? >> no, i mean he's well positioned in indiana.
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he's up about 11 points. the last go polls had him up double digits so he's in good shape there and we had a poll yesterday showing him up 34 points in california. >> oh my gosh. what was that one? >> that was a survey usa. we had a fox news poll that had him up 29. if it's anything close to that he's going to be well above the 1,237 so this is obviously cruz's last chance to try to stop him and even if he does stop him tonight it may not be enough in the end. >> california is rough. we had teased john kasich. so john kasich 17 polls in a row has beaten hillary clinton in the general election. tell us about that. >> it's true. he's the republican that runs the best. clinton beats trump by seven and beats cruz by four and kasich
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beats by 7 points. the problem is that that argument is not working in the republican primaries. that's not what's motivating republican voters. >> why is it not working? >> i don't know. we talked about some of that stuff earlier. certainly on the trump side you talk so some of these trump folks. they think the general election polls are a pack of lies. they think donald is going to do better against hillary. we're in a season where the electability right now hasn't been as much of a benefit -- it wasn't as much of a benefit to rubio as he thought it would be and it's not providing any lift to kasich either. >> give me a historical perspective here at the beginning of the campaign trump was upside by 20 or 30 points, something like that. >> when this whole thing started? >> yeah. >> i'd have to look back. when he got in, he rose pretty
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quickly. >> he did. >> you go back and look at the average i always kept saying i thought we'd reach peak trump and he would dip down and go back up. so he's been strong since he got in and he's been part of this -- part of this has been his strength as an outsider, but it's also been and the reason that the establishment i think has had trouble is because it's been a sort of perfect storm. ted cruz ended up in the position he's in because of his strength of his organization. none of the other republicans have that organization and with 17 candidates none of them wanting to get out they all fell by the wayside and we are where we are in the republican race. coming up we reported yesterday how warren buffet is playing down the next president's impact on the economy. we'll dig in to what's really at stake in november. plus, apple stock continues to slump as iphone sales drop.
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back and it was trickle down economics on steroids. and we saw the results. >> i like the booing in the background about bush getting elected in 2001. he wasn't even alive in 2001. >> hillary clinton telling voters in indiana that it matters for the economy who's president, but warren buffet seems to disagree. this week he said it actually won't matter for the markets or the economy who wins the white house saying in part this. the country is headed in the right direction and no presidential candidate or president is going to end it. so who is right? joining us now is the man who writes "it's the economy" column and michael -- a
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>> i remember warren buffet when everybody was shortening america and running for the hills and freaking out, you know what, everything is cool, i'm going to double down in my investments and he did in goldman sachs and he made even more money. it sounds like he's saying the same thing here. the fundamentals are not only okay, but they're great for america's future. >> they're great for his future. he gets to do something that the average person doesn't get to do. if the u.s. economy does very poorly if long term growth collapses, warren buffet gets to shift his portfolio globally, he gets to shift it to other investments within the u.s. >> you're saying easy for him to say. >> easy for him to say, it's also wrong, but that's a separate issue. >> why is it wrong? >> there's a huge what economists might call an uncertainty tax associated with a trump presidency. janet yellen's seat is up.
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who will donald trump name to succeed them? i don't think even he knows. >> and who will hillary clinton name. >> hillary clinton would probably extend their terms another time and there's a short list of people we know she would go to. there's part of the tradition of democrat and republican and trump even someone as extreme as rand paul or ron paul on the fed, at least we know what they think about the fed. >> if it looking like trump is going to win, what do you think markets will do? >> there's two major problems. there's a huge uncertainty tax so just the basic math you do you have to throw in i have no idea calculations. second the long tail, the likelihood of extreme terrible events, trade wars, wars is much much higher this is what economists call a dead weight loss. this is not a case where some
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sectors win and some sectors lose, the whole economy is worse for a while. >> you think the whole financial world will be rooting for hillary clinton. >> wall street is closed minded and thinking in terms of regulation. i think they would rather trust the devil they know in hillary clinton than the person they have no idea. i think they're freaking out and they don't know what to do, but i don't think it's in any business's interests to vote for trump. >> oh my goodness. here is a statement. michael, have we had -- i was trying to go back and think of the last candidate that came out of nowhere as much as donald trump did. you can talk about ike but he beat hitler. politically whose been more of a surprise than donald trump.
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>> wilkey came in and he was almost completely unknown, although he was well known to wall street, but he was a well known quantity and i don't know what warren buffet is thinking about saying it doesn't matter who is president for the economy. 1932 hoover versus roosevelt, hoover would have stuck to balanced budgets and deepened the recession. eisenhower felt stronger about trying to get a balanced budget and helped to hold off inflammation in a way that others might not have, but one i think deserves credit and that is jimmy carter who about a year before the end of his presidency as you know chose paul voker who was serious about crushing inflammation. ronald reagan deserves credit for the prosperity of the 1980s, but one reason that happened was
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he said let's crush inflammatto even though it will hurt me. as you well know eisenhower hugely regretted having appointed warren, said it was his worst mistake. >> i want to bring a question back to adam because you were talking before about how the markets like serenicertainty an would go hillary clinton because they would know where she's coming from. i'm curious because donald trump is poised to become the republican nominee do you have any idea who he could possibly consider for fed chairman for treasury secretary for any of those very important positions in the american government for the american economy? >> this is what is so terrifying. we don't know -- my hunch would
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be he doesn't know. i don't know that he has a view on monetary policy. what's interesting is we talk so much about democratic and republican economic policies recollections but if you look at the core people who have advised president after president after president from kennedy to now, they're almost all from a same group of economists. >> they're a club and isn't that what trump voters are trying to get rid of? you just explained why donald trump is doing so well at least in the republican primary. >> ronald reagan brought in a group of people who had a coherent view with decades of experience from the university of chicago. you could at least know what their view is whether you agree with it or not. >> it sounds like he had some wherewithal. >> it sounds like people he knows in the business community. >> we know from history treasury secretaries who come from the
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business world do not have the global view that represents all american interests. >> i get the sense though that that's the sort of people -- >> there's a lot going on here. so michael, i wanted to show you something and maybe you could teach me about historical precedent, just something like -- >> we went to the same college so she knows more than i do. >> you actually did well there. >> i was there long before she was. >> tell me if there's any historical precedent for a candidate saying something like this. >> his father was with lee ha harvey oswald prior to his being shot. nobody brings it up and they don't talk about that. that was reported and nobody talks about it, but i think it's horrible, i think it's absolutely horrible that a man can go and do that.
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>> there's a picture out there that shows cruz standing with oswald. >> what was he doing with lee harvey oswald shortly before the shooting? it's horrible. >> donald trump -- >> hold on. i've never heard this before. michael, so i'm hearing that there is a picture? is this -- is this legit. >> donald trump making new allegations against ted cruz this morning tying his father to the assassination of jfk. >> so donald trump is -- he is tying himself to bobby knight and he's trying cruz to oswald. >> this is a photo published by the national enrequirer last month. >> cruz's father had been a supporter but turned to him when the cuban leader said he was
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communist. >> no precedent to that. >> no, i think you can safely say that one. we love to find precedent but i don't think we can find one this time. >> talk about what adam has been talking about, the uncertainty factor that comes with a trump presidency. obviously, now -- well, you had a lot of people horrified in 1980, the establishment when ronald reagan was elected, 1932 the business community thought the world was coming to an end. >> and roosevelt had promised a balanced budget during the campaign. >> right. so i can think of those two examples, but i can't think of many other examples where there would be such fear and loathing. >> it's part of his brand. people are unhappy so this
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probably helps. we oftentimes hear how the economy is doing has to do with whether a candidate wins a presidential election or not and i would take that one step further and say what it has to do with is how well the presidential candidate says how he frames the economic predicament. two examples, 1960 the economy was coming out of recession and kennedy made it look as if it was plungiinplunging. in 1992 the same thing was happening and clinton was able to give examples to make it look worse and trump may be able to do the same thing. >> cruz says that report is another garbage story. >> i'm curious, what policy of donald trump's, what economic policy of donald trump frightens you the most? >> i'd say the trade stuff is frightening, but the absolute
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black hole of how he views the most fundamental role of government in the economy. the lack of thinking in that, the uncertainty, that frightens me. >> what does he need to do to ease some of your concerns? >> he started announcing i have a team of economic minds who are anyone's heard of who are not just business people out for their own self interests, but are proven people with a track record of thought, that would be helpful. if he started articulating a view that he's heard of monetary policy and he knows that's the single most important thing the next president will decide. more important than the supreme court, other that's important too, saying anything at all that would let us say that's what he thinks about the economy. >> would make you more comfortable. >> thank you. >> thank you. after a decline in iphone sales revenue and now its stock
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time now -- >> business before the bell. apple, it keeps falling. is it time to buy, buy, buy. >> it is a bit of a historical down touurn. apple stock has fallen eight of the last reporting. apple reported a decline for the first time in a decade and since then the stock has been falling. a lot of this has to do with iphones. it's an iphone company and iphone sales have ground to a halt. so my colleague last night spoke to tim cook and he asked him about this narrative out there that apple is on its way out.
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here's what cook said. >> i think that's a huge overreaction. we just had -- actually an incredible quarter by absolute standar standards. 50 billion plus in revenues and 10 billion in profits. to put that in perspective, the 10 billion is more than any other company makes, but it was not up to expectations clearly. >> cook emphasizing that apple is still guy normalus and has room to grow. he says he's never been more optimistic about kpn china, but the question is where is the next growth spurt going to come from with markets like the united states saturated with iphones. tim cook says people are still switching over and they're using a lot of these services from apple like pay and icloud which separates apple from other companies. it's a question that investors
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